Kamal El-Mekki – Dealing With Doubt
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um de la hearable alameen wa salatu salam ala rasulillah. Meanwhile, he was happy here Jemaine, I'm about. So two things we want to cover today how to deal with thoughts of Cofer of like disbelief, even including something that's not very often talked about someone using bad words against Allah stuff for Allah, someone's using bad words of profanity against Allah subhanaw taala. And they don't want to say it. But they they have it internally this, this idea or this thought. The other thing is doubts and questions about the religion, how to deal with these things. So first of all, why is this topic very important? Many people believe myself included, this will be the number one challenge for
Islam in the West in the coming years, it already is a big, big challenge. Those of you who deal with youth, no, this is a huge problem. huge problem all the time, we're getting youth who have doubts about an issue. And so therefore, they leave Islam before they even, you know, speak to a scholar or a person of knowledge, they leave Islam. I can personally I'm going to tell you personally, some stories that I've dealt with lots of times, young people leaving Islam, this is one of the biggest challenges now. And sometimes it's even the reason is just ridiculous. I don't agree with this law, something or some fine point of law. I'm not Muslim anymore. He stopped Salah
everything.
It's more common than we would like to believe.
For those of us who who don't deal with youth, or maybe don't encounter this problem, I'd like to give them a sense of how, how common it is and what a problem it is. Even a few weeks ago, someone in this ministry The young man and dismissed it. Not only was he contemplating leaving Islam, he was actually contemplating killing himself. And it was due to philosophy class that he took at the university. And I can't tell you how many times due to philosophy class, someone will want to leave Islam or take their life or many times we've seen it over the years, all over the US not just in one area or another. Very, very common. Another problem is that sometimes an English literature class,
they'll have
an excerpt from a philosophy book or something by this philosopher, philosopher or the other. And the English literature teacher or professor is not equipped to teach philosophy so they end up confusing,
confusing, and he the students, and you know, and let's just say there are two kinds of philosophy there is the useful one and then there's the garbage one. The garbage philosophy is is this a microphone? Or maybe you think this is a microphone because your whole life you are told this is a microphone.
But okay, it's a spoon. What does it sound
like? him Allah He says, they would sit for hours philosophizing about the poor, and how can we deal with the poor and the issue of the poor and then they don't do anything for the port? must talk. Only talk. Anyways.
So let's, let's start by saying and by the way, for those who hamdulillah don't suffer from this from this issue of doubt and doubtful issues of thoughts, thoughts of disbelief, great then for you what you can get out of this talk inshallah is how to deal with people who have this problem. First thing that's important for people to understand
Is that they're not alone when they have thoughts of disbelief or Cofer or doubt, they're not alone. A lot of times what happens is the person thinks they're the only one in the world to go through this thought. And since I'm the only one in the Muslim community going through this, I must not be a good Muslim and therefore they start to leave Islam shaitaan uses that angle. So the first thing we said, this is a known issue that even the companions of the Prophet SAW Selim used to go through. So it can't be that they would go through it and we wouldn't go through it. Inside Muslim Abu huraira Delano narrates he says Jaya una min as Harbin Ibiza Larissa Sallam a group of some people from the
companions of the process alum came for salu and then they asked him in energy to fee and fusina ma yetta our Madonna and yet they can never be
they said we find in ourselves that which we find too great to speak about Jani some thoughts of gopher or some bad thoughts about a large region that we find too great to even speak about. Carla wanted to move the person and asked them Did you really find that all una colada sorry, holy man. He said that is a clear sign of a man that is a clear sign of a man All right. So how is it a sign of a man what what's the sign of a man having these bad thoughts that you don't even want to speak about? Or type so Amendment No you know him Allah He says that mana who is the Obama common column that you find this speech? Something so great, and that you don't want to talk about it is sign of good Mr.
Yan. If somebody gets a bad thought about Allah azza wa jal, and it bothers him so much that they don't dare want to speak about it. Is that a sign of a man? Of course, if the person has no email, he wouldn't care and he would blatantly speak about these bad thoughts or these bad ideas he has of Allah subhanaw taala so that's where the problem said that is clear email that can sorry, holy man, because only someone who has clear strong Eman would find it uncomfortable to talk about these things or bothersome.
So in another Hadith, this one incident of Buddhahood narration by Ignacio de la on Houma, and then the Bissell cillum Joe Rajan faqad, a man came to the LM and said in nee who had this one FC B shade. So I basically like I talked to myself and I have thoughts of things in akuna, Houma, yani for me to be burnt to Cinder. I have the LA it's more beloved to me and at the Columbia, for me than to speak about this, any jasola I get these thoughts. I would rather be burnt alive until I become Cinder than speak about them. That means they're pretty bad, right? And another narration, I would rather fall from the heavens to the earth and the fall all the way from the heavens all the way down
to the ground smashing. I would rather that happened to me than to speak about these thoughts. So then the process and it's beautiful is that you come to the Prophet sallallahu Sallam with a problem that you think is so severe, and then he just makes it so easy. The President tells him and hamdulillah and let the rock the Umbro Ll was wasa Alhamdulillah, who has reduced all of the plots of the sheet on to just mere whisperings. That's it. That's all it is all of this plug of the sheetrock. In the end, how do we classify it just the whispering he gave you and that's all it is. And it's a whispering you then act upon it didn't really do anything didn't force you to do
anything. That's all it was.
So the first thing we're seeing is that it is not unusual. Anyone experiencing this will not be the only one in fact the students the Sahaba the students of knowledge and the companions. They are the envy the devout worshippers will probably experience it more. As you've been Tamia Rahim Allah. He says that the believer may suffer from the whispers of the shaitaan and the insinuations and thoughts of gopher, which may make him feel distressed. He's saying the believers will feel this more than anyone else. More than the average Joe in the street. Those who are in you know, with strong Eman will feel it more than anyone else.
And, of course, I think it's kind of clear to see why the shaitaan would do that, because she wants us to be led astray, doesn't want us to have a relationship with a lawsuit. It doesn't want us to worship Allah subhanaw taala so it's this benefit 100% if he comes to you, and throws doubt in your mind and gets you to leave the religion, but just so we have an idea of what an enemy he is to us. Why does the show pawn give us nightmares?
So now I'm asking you
Why does she don't give us nightmares? What is the benefit? You just see yourself running in the street and the bears behind you? Then you trip. The bear comes right on you and you wake up. What did he benefit from that?
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down to see the level of hatred, that he hates you so much that he just doesn't want you to sleep well through the night. That's it. He doesn't get any other benefit you don't lose your religion because of a bear or anything. He just hates you so much. And can you imagine that you would hate someone so much that you don't even want them to sleep? Well at night you go outside their house and just wait to in the morning you throw a brick 330 hit the doorbell which activates you knock on wood. Let the alarm go off just all night everyday. I don't want you to lay. Why are you doing that? Well, I hate him so much. I just don't want him to sleep well, but
for this is it this is the level of animosity. This is how much this guy hates.
It's like children.
Except there is not a hate there. Right.
So
okay, so if and if he doesn't want you to sleep well through the night. What about he would he would love for you to lose that. Now we're gonna come to a few points here. But one more Hadith and this incident of widowed as well, a man by the name of Abu mane abou mail this man he comes. He says
Carla called to sell to a boss for cold, mushy, mushy, aged ofis Audrey. So he says I came to him nobis, the scholar, the companion, and I said, What is this thing I find in my chest? So he's coming to talk about this thing which is bothering him. He says What is this thing I find in my chest? called ama, who is what is it? called to follow him article ob? He said, Well, I will never talk about it. And how awkward is that? Then he comes to him for help with an issue when he says what's the issue that will lie on we'll talk about it. So if not best God, just to show you how. How it's been. It's not uncommon. So if not bus he says for quality. He said to me a shake on min Chuck. Is
it an issue of doubt?
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He said Is it something of doubt? And then if the bus laughed, then if not bus lost? And then he said color manager mandalika no one has ever been saved from that. An issue of doubt creeping into your head a question there creeps into your head. So no one is safe from that. This is how common it is companions get it. Scholars get it or bad Get it? That me and Edmund as if not busted, no one's ever been saved from that. So the first thing is not to panic if that happens, because it happens. It happens to all kinds of people. And it's a known issue since the time of the Prophet sallallahu sallam. And that's much better than thinking, Oh, I'm the only one who ever experienced this, this
is a disaster, I must not be Muslim, and so on and so forth.
The scholars mentioned like about five points or so on dealing with this type of worse, worse are these types of whisperings in regards to your beliefs, you're either not bahara but you update them. Number one, they say do not be worried about them. And they said instead of being worried, actually, you should actually be happy. Because the shape on coming to you to give you doubt about Allah is a sign that you have a man is a sign that you have email. The scholar has given analogy. They said Would a thief break into a place where he knows there is no money and there is no wealth? Or would he break into a place where there's wealth? I need someone break into an abandoned warehouse. It's
been empty for the last five years? Or do they break into a place where they know there's wealth and products and merchandise? So the shaytaan does he go to someone right now somewhere here in Houston? Does he go to an atheist? Who doesn't believe in Allah subhanaw taala and tell him Do you really believe in Allah? I'm doubting that you believe in Allah. He doesn't go to him because the person has no email. But it comes to the person who believes in Allah and says, I think you doubt your belief in Allah. So that's the first thing about it is that it's a good sign that he only comes in that's why even above or below on Houma. He says, Why am I Why am I allowed to ship on bill? When
horrible? And what would the shaytaan do with any how do we say
this is kill man. ruins knucklehead? What would the shaitaan do with a ruined heart? If you if it's already ruined? shaitaan looks at us Okay, he's on our side, that's fine when we find someone with a good heart corrupt that one. So the scholars then said that, that someone should be happy with the fact that the the shaitaan chose you to give you these doubts. And and then they said something interesting.
When the chiffon sees you happy for any reason, he doesn't want you to be happy.
If he's doing something that will make you happy, he leaves you alone. That's a nice point. And if the shaytaan sees that you're happy as a result of his whisperings, he will stop whispering he doesn't want you to be happy, doesn't even want you to sleep. Well. That's the first thing. Right? So you don't panic, you're not the only one second, or the first thing in dealing with the issue is that you don't give them much weight and you don't bother with them too much. Then the second thing is that when the thoughts come to you, you should occupy yourself with something else.
Now here this is a fun it's an interesting point. Yeah.
Their point the real point isn't don't think about it but busy yourself with something else by any psychologists say when you when you tell someone not to think of something, that's the first thing they think of. And you're right now if I told you for the next minute, I'm going to time you do not ever think of mangoes for the next minute and I started telling you what's going to happen. First thing you think of mangoes this kind that kind of the nice smelling ones in Pakistan, right? And then or use be sitting don't think of mangoes don't think of round orange mangoes? Don't think of Carlos Do you think of mangoes. So that's why therapist said when you try to suppress negative
thoughts, it doesn't work. Because that's all that happens is we start to surface and come up.
So they didn't say don't think about them, they should occupy yourself with something else. Like what if somebody says I don't like that I think the better solution is to sit down and deal with this issue. Hash it out, as they say, deal with it completely. Not good, either. We're going to talk about that in a second.
What now or maybe we can link it to the third point, which is
seeking the refuge with a logical and physical protection from the shape on. And this is from Abu huraira rhodiola and who he narrates that this is
Yeah, it's a Muslim that yet to shaytaan hadoken firehole. Man hakoda, the shaitaan will come to one of you and say, Who created such this and that. And then man holla Qaeda who created that had a pool? Man halaqaat who created your Lord? So the chatango first asked you who created this? Who created that? Then he'll tell you who created Allah subhanaw taala.
fader Bella who is Bella he will William T. Anti. This is what the problem said. If that happens, then seek refuge with Allah from the Shaitaan and Stop. Stop. Why? Because why did he say no deal with this issue until you you erase it? First of all, it's an issue of whisperings is not one that I deal with it. I can erase it the shaitaan is trying to come to you with this issue. It's like saying, and we put it this way. It's like saying, you know the chiffon that comes to you in the Salah to distract you. It's like saying, just deal with it. Yeah, have a battle with him one time and then you'll never come he will always come.
Now, five, I don't want to like jump ahead here. But someone might say no. Why don't I just understand the issue? Well, instead of yenta instead of leaving this issue, why don't I completely deal with it? You know, what's the word they say? Like hash it out and just kill it. squash it as they say.
Let me answer that later. Let me answer that later. Okay. Number four, asking scholars asking scholars,
because sometimes it's issues that have already been dealt with. But the person doesn't do any research. I'll tell you this. When I was in Canada, I was dealing with this one guy. And he said, I have doubts. And he left Islam. He left Islam. This is a true story. He left Islam based on one Hadith that was Miss translated on some random website, or some book or something like that. And he said this Hadeeth is scientifically inaccurate, which shows that if the person was a genuine Prophet, he wouldn't say something that was scientifically wrong. Therefore Islam is false. And he left to snap. He didn't bother wants to read another translation of this hadith. He didn't bother to
look up the words, you know, you can go to the English Arabic lexicon and see what a word means. Even if you don't speak Arabic. He didn't bother to speak to a scholar, an Imam, a person of knowledge, nothing made his decision to leave Islam. So he left Islam as a result of leaving Islam. If you if you discover that Islam is false, and you leave it, you should be the happiest person on earth. And if you discover and you convinced Islam is false, and you leave it like that, you should be very happy. I don't have to fast and do all these efforts that these people are spending their time on. I'm not Muslim, I discovered is not the truth. I saved myself a lot of headache and work
and time. But he leaves Islam and he becomes extremely unhappy. That's another topic. That's because deep down people notice the truth because of their fitrah
When someone says I don't believe there's a God, it's another discussion.
And I know some people say, some people truly don't believe there's a God, I'm with a group of scholars who believe that there is no such thing as a person who completely formatted the fitrah and doesn't believe that there's a God, we have proof from the Quran for lunch. Now, going back here, so.
So basically, this guy didn't do any research, he just left Islam.
And his name was Muhammad Islam.
And he is going to get the Muslim treatment
for the rest of his life, no matter where he goes.
I came a year later. And he committed suicide.
Couldn't Couldn't he was so sad, so depressed, you know.
But so what we're seeing is a lot of the issues can be have already been dealt with some just simple questions, simple answers that have been answered 800 years ago by the scholars, and people will not put any effort but just immediately decide to live another guy I met in Canada, and a nice Tony. He's an atheist and, you know, found a lot of holes with Islam and said, What, okay, when did you leave Islam? I left Islam when I was 10 years old. Mashallah. So you had the knowledge of a 10 year old about Islam, that fell softly right now, you didn't know this philosophy and all that. But you have a 10 year old level of education about Islam, when you made your decision to leave, and but
number five, the other point the school has mentioned to know about or to keep to bear in mind when you have issues of doubt or questioning.
And that is that there is no sin and no harm upon you for thoughts. And that's one of the great blessings that if every time someone had a bad thought they got a sin, there'll be a disaster. This is insane Buhari Bukhari and Muslim. And the President said in Allah to Joe was an almighty mahadevi nafsa. Allah subhanaw taala. has, has like pardoned basically, for my Ummah, what they what they think of your thoughts,
Madam Chairman, be out at the Kalam as long as you don't act upon it, or speak about it, you have a bad thought, as long as you don't act upon that bad thought as though as long as you don't speak and verbalize it to others, then you don't get any sin for it. So, until now, what's the damage done? It's just a bad thought that came into your mind. We never spoke about it to anybody, you never acted upon it. So what has happened, nothing has happened. And it goes back to the first point of not making it such a huge deal that you're going through this or that you're experiencing this. Okay?
So, so a number of points now, number one, that doubt doesn't mean Kufa, we already established a rather it means shows that someone has emotion in their heart. That's why they had the shaitaan came to them with this suggestion. But doubt doesn't mean before. Asking questions doesn't mean as ever.
Allah subhanaw taala invites people to contemplate, and that's what's so beautiful Yanni. Many other religions, they tell them don't ask questions. And Allah subhanaw taala asked us to contemplate and to consider things. In Surah Nisa laws which it says a fella to the Quran Al Quran, Willow can m and n divided law he never do 50 laughs and kathira. This is now if you want to get into philosophy, this is known as a falsification test, a falsification test, if something is true, you can test to prove it false. Most of the time, if you can try to prove something false, that means it's true. But if you cannot even try to if you cannot even prove it false, that means it's false. Any just any
simple example someone tells you, this is the fastest car in the world. The minute they tell you that you don't believe them, and you want to try to prove it false. If it's true, it will stand this test to prove it false. So I'll run it and time it and then measure those timings against the fastest car in the world. Or all races against very fast cars. I can try to prove it false. But whenever you cannot try to prove something false. That's an indication that it could possibly be false. And I'll tell you, for example, every time my my laptop crashes, it's due to an invisible pink unicorn who comes and nudges my laptop like this. That's why it crushes. Can you prove this
false? Don't say yes. How can you prove it false? Do you have cameras that can indicate invisible pink unicorns? I know they have one for purple ones, but for pink. They don't have it right. So how do I prove this false. So they say that the falsification test, where when something cannot be proven to be false
That's an indication that it's most likely false. alarms me in this verse tells you how to tell if the Quran was not from Allah. If Allah to the quran quran to the knock, contemplate this window can I mean any delay if it had been from other than Allah lohja, doofy, stealers and kathira they would have found many discrepancies in the Koran.
And that's it had to be that way. I mean, if one person wrote the Koran, or if a group of people wrote the Koran, you would find discrepancies, you would find changes. We know why if many people because different thoughts, different ideas, but even if one person wrote the Quran, that book would be very different. Because if you if you look at the idea, the Quran revealed over a period of 23 years, right now you start writing a book today and finish it 23 years from now, would that book be the same? And you can't rewrite chapters? Would it be the same? Now, when you started off looking pick Mohammed here, right? He's young, he starts his book in the first chapter is what is it video
games and dogs and cats.
And then, as he you know, 23 years from now he's has children is more mature and his grammars better and the book is like very different. And if the process of them wrote the score on it would not be the same for 23 years, as but one of the very nice comments, if the process of them wrote the Quran, you would have found the death of Khadija in it. True or false, which was a very big deal. Even if he didn't write about her death, you would see that it would be super sad during that time period. Um, it wasn't the year of sorrow. The book would have been super sad. When there's victory the book would have been happy the writing would be happy. Do you any anytime you catch that in the Quran?
Yeah, you're like in Ramadan. Oh, today, we're doing the happy versus I'm excited. You don't catch anything like that. So anyways,
but what is what our point was that Allah subhanaw taala invited people to contemplate. prophets of Allah asked Allah about issues. Ibrahim Alayhi Salam Rob biagini caverta Hill mount. Right. Oh my Lord, show me how you bring the dead back to life. Father Olam took me. Are you not a believer? And Abella said yes I am. Well, I can get my inner kalbi so that my heart can find content. So any Brahim Ali salam, he had, he had no doubt in Allah subhanaw taala. But there are different levels of certainty different types of Ukraine. And you see in the Quran, Allah subhanaw taala will talk about
El Bulli again, I know your pain hopefully attain, and simply in a simple way. Let's say someone that you trust very much comes to you and there's a bulge in his pocket, it tells you I have an apple in my pocket. But this is a trustworthy person. So I have no doubt he has an apple in his pocket. So that's me looking. Based upon my knowledge, I have certainty that there's an apple in his pocket. He's never lied, there's no reason for me to doubt that. Then he pulls it out. Now it's really a thing I saw with my own eyes. Right? Now I know for a fact he has an apple, but it could be wax fruit can be plastic, I don't know if it's real or not. But if you give it to you, you take a
bite out of it. Now that you experience something, it's happily a thing. That's why a lot of people will mention how can you clean in the Koran when people enter the gender already because now they experienced it, they felt it. Before through knowledge. They knew of it and everything. But now when they walk into it, it's another level of certainty. So the fact that someone asks a question, and sometimes people come up to you, I have a question. But I don't want you to think badly of me because of this question. And I'm not like doubting a man. I just want to ask, but I don't need all these introductions. When I share. I'm sure you got that a lot. And I'm not doubting it, but I just
want a disclaimer, I was giving you the disclaimers, ask me we don't worry about
Okay.
Let me see here.
Okay, but let's look at a number of things. Number one, the idea of the Quran as the answer to things, right, the Quran as the answer.
So this, this young man,
Yanni, these young men came to me they said we have a friend, he's confused because of philosophy class, that he's taking him to university and what have you, and we're contemplating suicide or we'd like you to talk to him. He said we It took us a while to convince him to come to the masjid to talk to an AMA. Why? Because he said, If I talk to the Imam, the Imam is going to say
I'm gonna tell him because of issues of that. Go read the Quran.
But he says the man would just tell me go read the Quran. You know what the problem is? The problem is how we belittle the Quran. Well, like what an amazing book, what answers in it, what perfect perfection in it. But the problem is we don't put it at a high level. So the guy says the man the chef will just tell me
Go read the Quran, as if the Quran is just so when they told me that one of the things I wanted to tell them on purpose is go read the Quran. And I told them to the end has all these answers. But our problem is we be little Johnny, I be little Allah answers, and I come to get some answers. That's the way we look so sad. So sad. So and this is a dour technique, by the way, when someone knows the answer you're going to give and tells you in advance. Don't give me that answer. So what happens, a lot of people get stuck. This is a true story. This is a kid in California. And
I was there but this guy didn't come up to me. So this guy, his specialty, when there's a guest Mr. He walks up to the hobby, and this man had some calamities happen in his life. So this is yes, this happened to me. And then this happened. And in the same week this person died. And in the same time I got fired, and he gives you his calamities quickly in like 40 seconds. Then he tells you why is Allah doing that to me? Don't tell me Allah is testing you. Don't tell me he's explaining your sins. Don't tell me you will never know, the good unless you experience the bad and every answer that he got from God. He slaughters it right in front of you. And then he says, Don't tell me anything. But
go ahead, give me your answer.
So he didn't come to me that Friday. And he but the brothers told me he comes to everybody, and they don't know what to tell him. I don't know what to tell you. I was hoping he would come to me, because I had an answer already from So no, I will tell you this. And I will tell you that and I will tell you all these answers. You cannot take the right answer. Slaughter it and tell me you can't use it. Any imagine, let's simplify. I come to you and say what's one plus one? And don't say two?
Now, I will say two it's the right answer. You can't tell me not to say the right answer. Right? That's just the doctor told me I need someone to tell you why this question. And don't give me this answer. I'll give you this answer. So somewhat, essentially, this young man is saying, I want an answer. And don't tell me read the Quran. I will tell you read the Quran? Because it is the answer. What do you think all these imams are telling you to read the Quran for? Because there's something about it? Or do you think it's just a cop out? When I don't know how to deal with you I tell you just go home read the Koran or vermandois?
Because it is the answer. All right.
Okay.
Okay, type
a number of things here. And some of these issues, some of the points I wanted to mention, like kind of explain, also what the problem is with the issue with issues of doubt. But let's see if I can go in order. Sometimes you can't understand something. Sometimes Allah subhanaw taala purposely doesn't explain it to you, because you're not going to be asked about on the Day of Judgment. Like, for example, how did Allah subhanaw taala create the heavens and the earth? You're not going to be asked about that to enter an agenda. But you have to know who is the Creator of the heavens and the earth and of yourself. So there's a difference here. So Ullswater, will give you the answer you need on
the day of judgment and not the other answer. Because you're not going to be asked about another data point a guy came to me in a data table, where at the university, he points to the Quran, he says, How old is this book, say the earth is? He wants to know if the if Muslims believe the earth is 6000 years old, or 10,000 years old, like some Christians do. And we have carbon dating, and we have things that have been on Earth a million years ago, or 65 million years ago. And you can tell me, it's 6000 years old. So his first question was, how old is this book, say the earth is? I said, Look, this book isn't. First and foremost, this is a book of guidance. It doesn't comment on the age
of the earth. It's not a geology book. It's not a history book. There might be some history, but it's not a history book. It just actually a few months ago, I was looking at something online. And it was like a, you know, the debate and the trial refer back to the Koran. One website was arguing someone on this website was saying, if these people understood that the Quran was a book of history, do we understand that it's not a commandment?
And did this person ever read the Quran? The Quran is a book of history. But Allah was the history there any, how can someone think the Quran is a book of history, but these have no clue and when. So there's some history in it. But it's not a history book. There might be some geography, some geology, some science, but it's not a science book. And that's why it's so wrong when people try to sell the Quran as a science book, or there are a lot of scientific miracles. A few here, what percentage of the Quran is scientific miracles? Not even 1% just throwing a number and
the point is,
so I told him, the book does not comment on the age of the earth. If it's a million if it's 10 million, it's it's a billion, it doesn't matter. It tells you everything you need to enter into paradise and to avoid the hellfire. That's what the book is about. So book of guidance. He said, Now we can talk and if you
Tell me this book is The earth is 6000 years old, according to you, I don't want to talk to you. That's ridiculous. We said, Now we can talk by. So we're saying sometimes you can't understand something. And it doesn't mean that.
That it's nonsense just because you can't understand it.
And I'll explain the philosophy behind that in a second. So
let's base it off another True story. Again, this young man, and for whatever reason also happened to be in Canada. Yeah. And this guy was like, a no student of knowledge that we were very well aware of yet. And he took a lot of classes and courses and you know, his wife was a revert non daughters were Muslim, to Muslim girls. And he started writing on his blog and making it public that he's going to leave Islam. So I called them up said, Can we talk he said, Sure, call me at this time. But please read my blog. First. It's more important for me that you read my blog. I didn't want to read his blog, because I didn't care about you know, the back and forth here. I wanted the big picture.
And for him, I took a look at it, it was exactly what I expected. Like it was about basically eight Ahadi or points that he couldn't understand. Based on these eight points. Islam is false. He left Islam right.
by one of them, for example, just so
is the hadith of a Buddha when the pasilla asked him Yeah, burger. Do you know where? Yeah, burger? Do you know where the sun goes when it sets? And then it tells him that the sun goes and prostrate under the throne. He said, we know that sun doesn't go anywhere. There's some doesn't even set. And it's in the middle of the galaxy, or any What do you call it? Or nine planet thingy? solar system? Thank you. NASA is close by Yeah, we should be careful, right?
Five an hour. She didn't say that. The sun goes around us. But from our vantage point, it looks like it's it goes away somewhere. It doesn't we know that. But your vantage point until now in the language you say the sunset it didn't set. But we don't talk to each other. Well, the earth turned we don't say the earth we say the sunset and Mohammed.
So the it's odd that he's that where something is happening in the world of the unseen? Can things happen in the world of the unseen without affecting our world. Any right now, these pillars, these walls, these the rugs, this microphone stand, they're all making the color of Allah subhanaw taala. And it's happening in this in this world that doesn't affect or intersect with our world? And none of you are saying, Can you raise it? I can't hear you. Because all that disappeared from all these things just too loud. It's not affecting our world at all. But it's happening in a way that a lot smarter and is aware of, can the sun makes to jute to Allah subhanaw taala? In a way that doesn't
affect us? Yeah, for sure. It we don't have to be able to know and explain everything. And I didn't say scientifically, because a lot of times we don't even know what this means scientifically, we give it way too much power. And I know some of you are scientists. But
look at how ridiculous this is. Imagine I asked you and people do this kind of stuff. What year did you father marry your mother? And can you prove it scientifically?
And this is a real I saw this. One of those YouTube clips and someone came up and asked Dr. zeca Nika question, had nothing to do with. Yes. And something like what you did, or how old was the prostitute when he married the Hadith? Something like that? And can you prove it scientifically?
If Hamas sciences, you have no clue what it is, then what kind of a question is that? What did you have for lunch? And can you prove it scientifically? What do you want me to do? cut my stomach open and put on put the the things under the microscope? What do you mean? Can you prove it scientifically? So people still don't even understand how and what that means, you know? But anyways,
we're really running out of time here, right?
The point is that
if you don't understand something, it doesn't mean make it nonsense. And if you don't understand something, it doesn't make it false. Basically what this guy did, he took eight points. And because of eight points decided that Allah has a will is he couldn't understand eight point due to that Allah is not on his throne. soprano Todd, and maybe saucer lobster for law was a lawyer and an imposter and not a genuine prophet. And he made it all up. And that's that's exactly where we ended the conversation. We spoke for an hour. Then in the end, I said, I have one question for you. You studied theater classes before I said, Yes. I took courses on Sierra. I read books on theater. I
listen to lectures on Sierra. I said at any point when you studied this era, did you ever feel that you were learning about a liar, a cheater a con man an imposter at any point? He said Honestly, I never once spoke the problem was not genuine. I never felt that he was a cheater someone a liar. conning his people never. I said now because you don't understand the eight points. He said.
became a lawyer
is not exactly what happened. Because I don't understand eight points. He wasn't speaking the truth.
He said, this point is so strong that I have to rethink the whole idea of leaving Islam.
And that's exactly what happens now.
If I go to a take a physics course, then one day I entered the class, and I don't understand the class that day. So I'm like, I understand physics is false. Because Yeah, I don't understand the physics is false couldn't look, it
doesn't make any sense. So that's exactly what he's doing. Because he doesn't understand eight points. But look at how many points like I told him imagine you walk into the largest Islamic library in the world, millions of books? Would it be reasonable to stand in the middle of that gigantic library? And look at all these books with all this writing and explanation over the centuries? And say, I'm pretty sure, from all these pages, there might be eight points? I don't understand. He said, yeah, that's reasonable. So then, does it is it reasonable to say, because of these eight points, that just a few paragraphs, that will offset all these millions of pages, and
therefore all of Islam is false? Because of eight points, I don't understand. Here's what the problem is, I think I have a lot of points I'm not going to be able to cover but maybe this one is one of the beneficial ones. Why does that happen. And this might be a little bit of Western philosophy versus the, you know, let's just call the Islamic philosophy of how the mind is. So in, in the West, they give the mind too much power. If my mind doesn't understand it, it must be nonsense, but you're giving too much power to your mind. In the Muslim for lack of a better term in the Muslim philosophy, they don't give the mind too much power, the mind is considered one of the
senses, one of the senses, just like your sense of smell, and touch and sight, your mind is one of the senses. And it's one of the means through which we learn and acquire knowledge. This, like I learned through the senses. So you know, I see something that's glowing, red hot, I touch it, it burns me It's hot, I learned through the sense of touch, you know, I smelled smoke, I learned about fire all these things. Now imagine the and in the same way I use my brain, my mind to understand and to learn. It's one of the senses. It's not some magical thing. So in the same way, when if somebody says, I'm going to learn everything, through my sense of smell, only everything, even things related
to touch, I will learn through smell. Yeah, I mean, if this is soft, or not, through my nose, this is this delicious through my nose, is this hot? through my nose? What would you say? It's impossible, because not one of the senses can eat every sense has a limit. So already, now we're doing something relaxing here. The fact that the mind is one of the senses, has a limit, just like the sense of smell has a limit sense of touch has a limit. And so the senses have a limit, and we use them to gain knowledge, and to learn to acquire knowledge. But they're not like any, you know, some kind of be all end all. And that's why a large region mentions the mind as one of the senses
for gaining knowledge in the Koran. We'll have Roger comb mimco, Tony, Omaha, Chico, la talamona de la brought you out of the wombs of your mother's not knowing anything, then Allah subhanaw taala mentioned some of the senses, which are looking with some will absorb one, either. And lamotta gave you the hearing, and eyesight and it just mentioned some of the senses and an F into your mind, Johnny hearts minds, right? So.
So then, these are senses through which you learn. And we don't give it too much power. So if my mind cannot completely digest something, or wrap itself around an issue doesn't make it false. And I'll give the simplest example. And bear with me if you heard it. So imagine you walk into a gender. And you see a brand new color, not a mixture of two worldly colors, and an entirely brand new color. Not a mixture of red and orange or anything, a new color you've never ever seen before. Does everyone understand what I'm saying? Yeah. Imagine you walk into a gender you see a brand new category of color, something you've never seen on earth before. Everybody understands this. Now,
close your eyes and imagine that color.
See the difference? Yeah, so something can make sense to me. But I can't completely wrap my mind around it to the point that I can imagine it and so on and so forth.
So the idea for example, that Allah subhanaw taala is the creator of everything, and people will ask who created Allah? Just like in what grade Allah Alright. Now someone says, I told nothing. He tells me this is nonsense. You're believing in nonsense. How can you have no beginning?
All right, the answer? Two parts. The first thing is it's not nonsense. You understand the concept of first
If I say so and so was the first person in the masjid today. He's the first one who walked into this building today. And he told me Yeah, but who was there but who walked in beforehand?
Do you understand the concept of first? When I told you someone was the first one in? Why would you ask me who was there beforehand? That doesn't make any sense. That's the first thing. The second thing, the problem is the way we understand Allah subhanaw. taala is using our world. And that's going to be flawed at some point. The way I understand the law as origin is by examining my world. So I know that Allah subhanaw taala is Al Karim the most generous. I look at my world, I've seen generosity, I understand generosity. I'm multiplied by a lot. Now I can understand how Allah is indicating Allah is a Rahim. And I've seen or man I see Rama in my world I've seen in the animal
kingdom, I see it with families. So I understand that concept I see in my world. In my mind, I multiplied by a lot. I understand how Allah is. Right? But then I know I see. Or,
I'm told that Allah subhanaw taala created everything. What do I do? I immediately look to my or actually forget that. Allah subhanaw taala has no beginning.
So I turned to my world again, that's how I understand the laws by looking at my world and magnifying when I turn to my world now. Okay, what has no beginning on this army? See, everything has the beginning. So this guy is telling you, that's nonsense, because he's using his world to understand Allah subhanaw taala. And
the creator cannot be just the UN, it cannot be temporal cannot be like the world, he has to be different than the world that he created. So here we say you can't ask that same question about Allah. And then he says, Oh, well, that's a cop out. You just tried to escape, you just made up that rule. So you can when that you cannot ask the same question about the creation as you can about the Creator, for the creator about the creation, until no, I can't do that. And so in the example, the scholars give this example, the carpenter creates a door and in Arabic, you can say in a jar Kala bourbon, he created the door, meaning he fashioned this door. So the creator in this example is our
carpenter. And the creation is the door. Our rule is, you cannot ask the same questions about the Create tour as you can about the creation.
And this rule applies in this simple example. So the guy he built the door, and he put 64 screws in it, but it's okay, how many screws are in the carpet?
What's the rule? You can ask the same question about the creator as you can book the creation? Okay, the door has three hinges how many hinges are on the carpenter? by washing? All right, like the carpenter has two wives. How many ones does the door have? He has three children? How many? You can ask the same questions. So it is logical, it is logical. But a lot of times people try to corner you with the with the extent of the limit of your knowledge to say look, you run out of stuff to say, of course, I'm going to run out of things to say at the end. What it looked great as I explained it, I don't like that explanation. I give you another one. That I don't like that one either. Give you
another another. I'm going to run out I'm not I don't have infinite knowledge. When I run out. You'd like to call us I want No you didn't. You just refused the ones I gave you. They were all good and legit and valid. But now you turn on them you're like okay, now what are you going to do about what are you going to do but are we out of time?
But until we make are done
I just want to add the point. I mean, actually have like, I guess three or four other points in there. But maybe another time.
The idea of impossibilities and and whenever I we talk about this in the class, a student will come to me during break and try to change my words, right? The words make them uncomfortable. So okay, don't just don't maybe we shouldn't say that. Allah cannot do impossibilities. That's the wording of the scholars not my word. The scholars said Allah azza wa jal cannot do impossibilities.
All right. But that's an issue when you say Allah can't do something relaxing Habibi. What is an impossibility?
Something that's impossible. So, or do not know what impossible means in the English language. And that's why when somebody comes to you works all the way to you to ask you if something impossible is possible. That person is just being foolish. Yeah. So the you know that one of those questions like can Allah azza wa jal create a door that no living thing can open? And the person says, Yes. Can I open the door? And the person says, yes. Okay. That means he cannot create a door that no thing can open because he can open it. Alright, can I look at a rock that is so huge that no living thing can move it? Yes. Can he move it? Yes. That means he cannot create a rock that no living thing can move
it because he can move it
See what's happening? Can Alo create a four sided triangle? is a question we asked in the dowel class and many, yes. But if somebody says that to you can allocate a four centimeter I don't know where you studied math. Okay? But the minute there are four sides, it's a rectangular square a parallelogram, but it's not a triangle. Don't answer, yes, the answer of your screen, you can create a 16 sided triangle in your eyeball.
So when someone asks you an impossibility, and if somebody walks up to you and says, Can Allah be absolutely still and moving super fast at the same time?
Don't Don't even answer a question like that. It's a dumb question. Only a dumb person or something like that. Where did you study? And would? Why would you ask me about two things? They're paradoxical or two things that are just impossible work against each other? And then asked me if the impossible is possible, then you must not know what the word impossible means. If that's the case. Is it time to stop?
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The young man that wanted to commit suicide because of philosophy class, you know what he told me?
He's considering a minor in philosophy
and one class and you're gonna kill yourself. When you do a minor you're gonna kill the father, your mother, the whole family that the dog
who wants to continue with what caused them confusion? And that's the difference. The early Muslims are so different than when someone would come to them even wanting to debate Imam Malik. many stories of these people who are well grounded in knowledge and someone who wants to debate them on an issue and they'll say
I know my Deen. If you're looking for yours, go look for them. They wouldn't. Today it's the opposite. Let me let me get deeper into this. It's causing you already confusion and distress. You want to get into it for further.
One of the things that
Some people fail to realize is that when, let's say Rene Descartes, he wanted to, to know in how do I know I'm alive? How do I know this is not just some kind of dream? You know, there's his story. And he said he cannot rely on his senses. He even went to the point he said, he cannot even rely on his mind. Because what if some demons powerfully took over his mind, so all these kinds of things, but in the end, he concluded he's alive because he thinks he says, I think I'm a Cogito ergo sum, I think, therefore I am. By your law, you're proud of him, because he went through all this miskeen he didn't have the Quran. I have the Quran, I don't have to go through his sufferings. I don't have to
retrace his footsteps. He had to sit in a dark room, because of that. We had was one MSA in the East Coast. And they had this T shirt printed, and it said, I think therefore Islam,
which I think therefore I am, I think therefore, it's not because I'm not in the same place as this guy. Oh, but you know, you need to start from zero and question everything and build upon that. That's for someone who doesn't have a large region doesn't have the foreign, I don't need to start building what I have to start from scratch. But these are some of those bad thoughts anyway.
issues not a reason to leave Islam. So many people I don't agree with, you know, the treatment of this in Islam. He leaves Islam. I don't agree with this fine point of law in Islam. If you're religious, I don't believe that if someone commits in addition to be punished
the market then what would be your advocacy for the design, you're gonna leave Islam Allah smart Allah is not on his throne. Because your 19 year old brain doesn't agree with some laws and fine point of law. Suddenly Islam is false alarm doesn't exist, because you don't believe or do not agree with this law. So issues of fish are not issues to leave Islam. Issues of science are not issues to leave Islam. And we we see this happening throughout our life where, you know, sciences this in the textbook has it in it's a fact in there. And then five years later, they like, you know, we said that before that that's wrong. Okay, so this is the news. But don't question this one. Because this
is for sure now. And every time it happens every time with every issue, it happens. In the world of nutrition, it's happening all the time in the world of in space, they're always telling us different things with dinosaurs, they tell us different things. I'm very well when I was in school, the Stegosaurus had two plates of armor on its back. And then something like 1015 years later, they said no, that was wrong. It's one plate of armor. But if in second grade, I argued that they would tell me it's in the book, don't see that look at the drawing. It's in the science book for you to question it. And then later they're like, yeah, you know, it was wrong. And now but this don't don't
question this one. Now, for a lot of times, a lot of science is, is theory presented as fact, theory presented as fact. And people start to demand starts to waver and everything, based on not even doing further research, and especially today, it's become ridiculous work. Research has shown a research proves this relationship. It's very dodgy the way they do it very, very dodgy. So they'll, mmm may not change the topic. But
yeah.
Now what is interesting is that philosophically, the West has one source of knowledge. That's the universe, that for the West, anything you will learn, it will be from this universe. If you learn anything about spaces by examining these bodies, and how they move and stars and this and that, examining how this gas moves or how this animal behaves, observing, experimenting, that anything you learn will be from inside this universe. But for the Muslims is not one source, we have two sources of knowledge, anything you learn will either be from the universe, or it will be from Revelation, and why some scholars break it into and why and mubasher COVID mubasher, worshipping the Quran
direct revelation for an indirect revelation, the sooner so anything you learn will will be either from the universe, and if it's outside of the universe will be from Revelation. And the things that are in Revelation, you can never learn from observing the universe. Yanni, you can never set up an experiment to prove that the angel on the right writes down good deeds and the one on the left writes down bad deeds. True or false? No microscope no camera, nothing on this earth from observing this universe will tell you which Angel writes down which deeds are that if people die, they go to all eternity in Paradise, set up an experiment to prove that someone a good righteous person will
spend eternity in Paradise, not even 12 years but it turns set up an experiment to prove that how can you you can't so what happens is that the things that our Lord told me in Revelation, there's no way to discern them or figure them out by myself. Using
universe. So
we have two sources of knowledge, the universe and Revelation. But a lot of us, you know, scientists except one, or a lot of, you know, Westerners will accept one and that is the universe. So it is upon the believer then to balance the two together. So, if, for example, I don't want to use a scam for too much money, but let's say gin entering a person. Now, let's agree that it's extremely rare for gin to enter person. And it's extremely rare, we think happens all the time. But it's very, very, very rare. Very, very uncommon. Let's just say 2% of the cases you deal with, or 1% will be actual gin possession. Other times the guy's bipolar is doing drugs. It's his mother in law,
whatever the reason is, you know, just all kinds of other things. But that 1% Yes, it is.
Basically,
the reason I said mother in law, this is a true story. And this actually shefali someone came to him and he said, she, I think my mother in law did some bad sir gin for us. Because my wife and I were not getting along. So the chef said, Do you talk to your wife? He said, No. He said, Do you take her out? Sometimes? He said, No. Do you do anything nice for He said, No. He said, it's not your mother in law's, you know, for, for him. So what we're trying to say is that it is very rare, but that 1% is, yeah, but what happens is you meet a Muslim psychologist. And he says, I don't believe in gin possession. Why? Because why? Realistically, because he studied the discipline, under the philosophy
of one source of knowledge, and that's the universe. And they didn't have this idea of jinn entering into humans. And so they didn't teach him that in the textbook. Therefore, he concluded that's false. His job as a Muslim would be to say, Okay, I understand why they don't have jinn possession, because they have only one source. But I have another source and in Revelation, I understand that it is possible, very rare, let's agree. But it is possible. So all these things play into these issues of doubt. And people starting to have second thoughts who will? science book doesn't show this? Yeah. But like we said, a lot of people don't even understand what what it is to be scientific. So
science
doesn't deny the existence of God. The philosophy of science doesn't accept God as an explanation. There's a whole difference between the philosophy of science and something being scientific. So scholars say many Muslim scholars, science, by its nature is atheistic and materialistic. What does that mean? Yeah, I mean, they refuse to put God as an explanation. You don't ever see a biology book that says, and this works this way, because God made it like that. True. We've never in our life seen that. So it's a theistic meaning. They don't mention God, not as because God is unscientific, because in philosophy, they decided, let's not put God as an explanation. And we're fine with that.
Because then they can further try to research and but many people thought This means the idea of God is unscientific. And to its materialistic, meaning the answer has to be something material. That's why when you tell the scientists, you know, it's something called the gin. And the gin is, you know, you know, they're invisible, and they're here, and they can see as we can't see them here. It's got to be material right in front of them. And so what's interesting is that someone who is in this thought process, he will refuse, even if he sees something, his philosophy tells them, it can't be the case. So if I take, if I take a scientist who doesn't believe that gene exists, and I take him
somewhere overseas, maybe we'll have those facilities here as well. And we stick a gene in him from the airport. Yeah.
I think to charge Sudan, Morocco, from the airport, biggest gin, boom, enter in
India also, he should be when he experiences these things, he should be convinced that there is something in it, but he might even struggle with himself, try to explain this, as you know, whatever other explanation, just because the philosophy told him, I can't accept this. But there's nothing unscientific about belief in God. It's just the philosophy that said, we're not going to take God as an explanation. So, and many people misunderstand this Muslims or non Muslims. I was reading some article, it was about a debate between creationism and what's the other one evolution.
So the author says they're arguing creationism as if it's something that can be proven inside of a test tube.
She doesn't understand what science is. And he thinks all of science will fit inside a test tube. So I totally thought your psychology is garbage because you can't put it in a test tube and see it like this. The first of all, not all science deals with test tubes. That's the first thing.
The second thing I can come using good analysis good.
logic which agrees with the scientific method, that the Quran is from Allah azza wa jal, I read the Koran, and I'm analyzing it, I bring a group of scientists, and they're going to look at the Quran to see, is it possible that a man living in Arabia 1400 years ago could have written this book. And they will use completely scientific analysis and scientific methods and good logic to say, okay, he couldn't have known about this, he couldn't have written about the future, and they're going to come up with a number of points. And they're going to conclude, no, this book could not have been written by a human being or even a group of human beings. So now my next conclusion, it has to have been
from the Creator Himself. I came to this conclusion through science through a scientific method of analysis and a thought, and good logic and good rationale. So why is it unscientific?
It's not, it's just the philosophy of science that refuses to accept God as an explanation. But that doesn't mean there's anything unscientific about believing in God. Now, I'll conclude by saying this, there's a documentary that I've been encouraging people to watch. It's called expelled. No intelligence allowed. It's called expelled. It's available free online. No, no intelligence allowed. It's an amazing documentary. It's by this man, what's his name? ben stein. Remember ben stein? Ben Stein's money in the old or the clear eyes, commercial toxin, that slow, lazy voice. So he is of course, you can tell from the name he is Jewish. So he does this documentary. First of all, he
uncovers something very interesting that there is like a gang of of scientists who gang up on anyone who mentions creationism, even Christian professors who mentioned that creationism makes sense. Did I even Christmas? Sorry, I said, Christian, non Christian, the guy is not even a Christian. He said, creationism makes more sense got fired immediately. He actually interviewed all these professors from around the country who got fired for just making statements that creationism makes a lot sense a lot of sense, or more sense than evolution. Then he exposes to theories. So we always hear about evolution, evolution, and they make it look like it's a science, right? But how do they explain
where life came from? Right, this is my concluding point. And if if I take a chair and sterilize it, no bacteria on this chair, no viruses on this chair, and I put this chair in a closet that sterilized as well. And I closed that door of that closet, and I come back 300 million years later, I open the door of the closet and look at the chair. Am I going to find like life on this chair? Like small waterfalls, jungles, little deer, lions, rats, butterflies? Am I gonna find life when I put this chair that has no life? And inside this closet? Where will life come from? So then people ask them, these people who say evolution is fact and science and all that. And they're explaining it
as the origin of Okay. Where did life come from? You said there was some cosmic dust that gathered in space sponge heated for whatever reason exploded, right? And then it cooled down. And then millions of years later, we have whales in the ocean and shrimp, and birds. Where do these things come from? And they have two theories to explain it.
And there's no other word besides stupid to explain these theories. One of them is called the crystal theory.
And when you watch the documentary, you will say I can't believe that many people think this is something to challenge Islam, that they're having doubts about their Deen because of this. And in the end, it's the crystal theory. And how many of us even heard of the crystal theory?
It's so shameful. They're even promoted. But they're very quiet about it. And they make it sound like we've got some some hard facts here. And they're scaring everyone with it. And it's absolute garbage. So what's the documentary, it's called expelled, no intelligence allowed, will completely enjoy it. You will benefit from it from the DAO standpoint, and you benefit other Muslims who have dealt with these issues. Right. So kumbhakarna for coming for you attentive listening so long barakallahu Ahmed Salam Alikum