Channel: Jamal Zarabozo
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Especially not to ignore the promotion and to look through other sources, to try to find some of the questions about life, to try to find some of the questions to try and find the answers to some of the questions about lack of behavior when these things have been stated clearly and concisely.
No excuses. what the Quran says is true when assuming that this is true, and there's no reason there's no goal for us, as Muslims to disregard, to ignore or lay down.
And to take what other people might be saying, we consider is the truth.
They're more disregarded.
although that's the case, and I think everyone would agree that that's the case, we don't need to go help them to know what to believe is no worse to go.
Unfortunately, historically, Muslims have not always kept
to that principle.
Historically, there have been some Muslim groups throughout the history of Islam.
Well allow themselves to be influenced by Borussia Dortmund,
allow themselves to be influenced by board. But
that goes against the philosophy
you'll find it
throughout history, one of the earliest examples
from the time of the
the as the leader of the Roman or visiting Empire, to send him the book, The philosophy.
And he brought those books of philosophy to the Muslim world. And he had them translated
And he opened up a place
a place which will open for anyone to come and just to the
representatives of Eastern philosophies, game representatives of Western philosophies, Jews, Christians, Muslims, people came together,
just to discuss
now it's a matter of just discussing with someone else, and trying to show him the greatness of Islam, and in the wrong what he believes.
But we talked about it some people talk about nowadays, it's like a kind of dialogue between Jews and Christians,
coming together, to learn from them,
to learn from them thinking that there's nothing that we're missing in the room that they might be able to help us to get some guidance that's wrong. But this is what happens. people begin to sit with Roman or Greek,
in the last verse drawing in Greek and Roman philosophy, and begin to think that maybe that philosophy that way of thinking is better than the way of thinking that it
People who call themselves unfortunately, are nowadays called Muslim philosophers.
Some of them didn't believe in the Quran and Sunnah whatsoever.
Yes, if you could pick up a book about Muslim philosophy, most likely,
they will be talking about those
people like a lot
of people gamble, is that the only thing that we can believe is true or rational.
In other words, things that we can think about our minds
and prove that there wasn't one equals do
these things he says, our division of knowledge isn't the only thing
with the foundry even took them not only to think that we can prove in this world, but even with respect to God,
they started talking about God knows
if it is true.
And all these
things are true.
And even though he said
to me that just go on
could not be considered a bruised ego or belief, because it doesn't have the level of certainty that these rational,
rational and where did he get that idea? He got that idea from the noise out.
Just kind of thinking of this, the influences led to the development of different
groups within the Muslim world.
goal in English.
It among the most to add a group
one common thing among many of these people not the one common thing about many of these people
is the belief that the lack of work we come up with our human mind, what do you believe the human thinking is correct, take precedence over what was the synthesis.
If we see something, for example, in this world,
and unfortunately was affected, it wasn't
related to physical matters mostly related to philosophical and theological matters.
If they could prove, for example, that Allah
doesn't have any other any attributes, because that would be more than one along
with some of them are you.
If we could argue that from a human point of view, we breathe again.
There's more than 101 God,
then that means we must deny what the Quran says that the font is wrong. And that order doesn't mean
that the way they approach the blind and the
irrational thinking led them to believe is correct.
And so therefore blind, or contradict anything that they come from
or they will try to make them wrong
with their way of thinking again,
there, we're not just talking about physical things.
When they're talking about philosophy and theology, things that the human mind cannot do whatsoever, because they're talking about matters that are beyond the realm of human mind.
You cannot make an analogy between God For example, and human beings or things of this world.
They want to think that this world has something
to be, that also must be true for, for God.
We cannot judge God on our test.
But that's what these people did.
And this was mostly one of the one of the starting points and it was in
did any good thing.
They never really died. Every once in a while you find one or two people bringing up their ideas. Again.
If you want to really understand the development in some of the beginning principles of the modern school exam,
we not only look at that history, which is somewhat related to the modern school, but we can see the development of modernism among the Christians and Jews in Europe.
The situation of the Christians and the Jews in Europe is completely different from the situation of Muslims.
What they have in their spiritual texts, was not preserved, preserved, the love of
loss of human error has entered into their text.
And this is important not the case was the one
located to the points in Europe, making
the summary of the 17 series
making really quick
into the point basically, in Europe that what the people are not seeing as reality. Now talking about physical things that they're seeing in front of them,
were being denied by the church.
The church is saying one thing is true, whether we're talking about the earth being flat or whatever, and the scientists and the people are thinking in front of them. That's not true.
So what happened is that,
for example, one of the one of the lovers Ken, he tried to say religion.
I can't you cannot make a comparison between religious matters and what happens in this world. Nobody can tell us the things of this thing in this world or not.
What the Church teaches.
So it says the church is ours, the religion is in a different realm, and the world is in a different realm.
Basically, he had a belief in God, and he thought he's defending religion. But of course, actually killing was our thing. Religion has nothing to do with life. It's the work of the mother, maybe some personal parts of your life. But scientists are people who saw these contradictions, they had some very difficult choices.
either believe totally in what the Church says,
or believes completely
in what they're seeing and knowing is true and rejecting what the teacher said, or tried to modify the church for to be consistent with what they're seeing is true.
The third choice is what led to the development
of the modernist school in Christianity.
Their basic point, the basic argument is the truth.
Even religious truths are basically relative.
What may be true at one time, or what may be considered true,
when a religious group is not necessarily going to be true, at another time.
And so therefore, their argument is that scientific changes
and parochial changes require us to reevaluate the teachings of religion,
in the light of modern science, and so on.
That's the basic premise behind all modern so whether we're talking about
the scientific change,
scientific progress, progress, goes through phases requires us
to reevaluate the fundamental, even the fundamental teachings of the religion in the life of now monetized.
Now, the only difference between activist and
is a strong body, come up with some theory. And
now, these people may be a little bit better.
They applied the scientific theory not as rational as with the also experiments. And it was that physical proof of what they're saying is something that people really to be completely fooled by
or not, I can take the bull by, because with respect to the church, with respect to Christianity, and Judaism, there may be a need. And there may be a reason for modernism, because their their texts were not preserved, there's a lot of human error. So it is quite possible for the Bible to say something which is wrong, and we can prove that it's wrong. So for then, there was such a need
to produce and Christians there was such a need. But in fact,
with respect to exam, as I said, because of the nature of the profession,
there was no need for that.
But unfortunately, what happened,
as we all know, the recent history of the past three or 400 years,
the Muslim world, especially from a materialistic point of view, the Muslim world,
fell behind the way
scientifically, materially, economically and so on.
And this allowed as we know, the European powers,
Congress conquer, control enrolled.
Now the same dilemma developed among the Muslims themselves.
They saw European society, if they looked at European society, they said, European society, is
there something that we don't have.
And unfortunately, many of them, they related, I think, one was the European Society events, your European Society events and events because of its belief structure.
As part of that belief structure was the fact that they didn't stick to an old religion, but they were willing to change the religion.
And this idea began to spread among the Muslims,
too, but it doesn't mean that it's fit for all time. We have to reinterpret it
in the light
of modern teachings in the light
of the modern
acts of kindness.
He said very clearly when he said that, basically the Muslims have three choices.
Either they have to abandon Islam completely
change the way to go all the ways in the West,
for stick to Islam, and remain always behind the people in the West,
or modify them
north and meet the needs of monitoring. He said, This is what we do. Either you have exam or you don't have, as much as he is modifying.
But he was a modern.
He was, he was a proponent of changing and adapting itself to modern, modern things.
And the European powers also,
they saw the need
in the US for this monitors movements to spread among the Muslim world because they cannot really dominate and control and really rule over the Muslim ban. And they realize exactly clearly they cannot rule and control until they took the people out of Islam.
It's not like I mentioned in the book about
challenges to Muslim women, doesn't mean that they're going to change the name and all become Christian.
Let them remain Muslims, they can do whatever they want.
But change our way of life from a Muslim to a Western is.
And they concentrate in certain areas. For example, in Turkey,
because Turkey was the thief of Turkey was the political,
the political strength for the political center of the Muslim world.
We concentrated in Egypt. And I talked a little bit about
because it's really needed because Egypt was the seat for the home to another, which was the intellectual center.
And they can't and they
concentrated on the effects of guns.
Because we look back upon it
was a very strategic rich life for them and a very important calling.
And there were numerous times facing problems, uprising communities for Muslims.
In the end,
they realize that they cannot live with us,
we will have to change the people somehow, someway to allow them to accept.
This was definitely
more important to me than
what was it?
India was a very important goalie, which originary for them. And they had these unions, they realized that they had to do something
about the Muslims in their life, that they couldn't exist with that situation.
And they begin to support those people add this modernist type thinking.
I'm just going to give one example we could give examples from Turkey and Prometheus and so on. But let me just give an example from India because we want to get to modern times. today.
One of the people that they supported the most was Thursday at McLaren
McLaren after the Muslim union at 57, he concluded
that the salvation of the Muslims depended completely and totally upon cooperating and defending the British and adopting their causes.
And in fact, he basically said that the Muslims will not be civilized until they leave their culture and adopt English.
He said that there can be no enmity or hatred between Christians and Muslims, on religious grounds. Because of all the religions of the world because of all the religions in the world, is the most respectful place and
one thing that he did is he opened up the university
to train people
to train people in this way of thinking, number one to create numerous
new intellectual muscles will be respected to come down to a degree from the University
he opened up that university with the intention of creating basically a new generation artist, the new leadership would think in the way that he thought
and of course, the only medium of instruction and that university was was English
only thought that English
you know, he's gonna do the same thing to
change the script of the Turkish language from Arabic to Latin.
So, people are no longer able to read or books related to being
what he did was if you wanted to go to the university, of course, you would have to become an expert in the in the English
Basically, his idea
was to become modern systems civilized you have to be done.
your life today.
England was supposed to be the leading country.
Some of the ruling
some of the Patel or some of the woman he gave.
The Chosen model is for example, polygamy is contrary to the spirit of Islam and should not be permitted, except in rare
modern banks, business transactions, loans and international trade, although all involving payments of interest do not properly fall into the definition of LIBOR.
the punishments laid down with Bronson Napoleon,
Hill, 300, licensed performing agents are varied
and suitable only for primitive society when I switch like prisons.
I'm jumping a little bit ahead. But recently there was an article in the San Jose Mercury News about a year ago in which there was a conference between
Christians Jews and Muslims in the article says, all Christians, Jews and Muslims are very happy because Muslims are going to open a new center, the center is going to be headed apparently by someone whose name was month. And he said basically, the same thing he said we do not believe in that Khomeini is, is is cutting the hand of the teeth and amputations. All of this is ethical,
and almost exactly the same thing.
And of course, and of course,
jihad is bad, except in desirous of self defense.
And of course, with respect to IP that we want to discuss matters of all different areas. And basically anything that you cannot see, they will deny angels assisting in the miracles or not.
jumping ahead again, one of his biggest students who wrote this appeared on the same basis with the same kind of nonsense and it's a
miracle that explains the well the story.
There's no such thing as gin.
And unfortunately, recently, this
translation and commentary was distributed throughout the United States for some organizations, I don't know who
went to the woods to the extent that there's no such thing as heaven health. There's no such thing.
And basically what he did, which is pretty much what the goal or what all moderators are leading to one
another is that he said that the Quran and Sunnah
must be restricted to purely devotional matters.
And acts of worship
just deals with how the brain passes on
these proceeds to Turkey and Egypt and
acts of kindness.
students and these students as students that they continue, and they began to
have some influence in those areas.
Each one will have some input because there's no question that there was definitely something wrong with the Muslims innocence.
I mean, there will be
Muslim reformers, not monitors are Muslim reformers that were saying the same thing.
He was one of those reformers in Syria, who said that there's definitely something wrong with the Muslim world. But the thing that is wrong with the Muslim world is not that there's something wrong with Islam, as these people are saying that we have to adjust. The thing that is wrong is that we as Muslims are not compliant.
So these reformers, they know that something's wrong, and they knew what the solution was.
And they also had,
and it wasn't just the just the modernists and the modernists.
reformers also had their, their influence,
and effect to know in the Muslim world that do, we want to go to the
part of the world, or even here where we're minority, this is faction, a modernist throughout the Muslim world, but in particular, in the United States, there perhaps more dangerous
or more dangerous for a number of reasons. But probably the most important reason what makes them so dangerous here
is that we do not have those scholars who have the ability to refute,
we do not have 1400 years of literature by scholars, they talk about some of their points, even before they even exist.
We don't have that access to all that Arabic literature and English, we don't have much.
So they are dangerous.
Here, and in some, to some extent, they are even being more successful here in this country than other parts of the world.
magazines being produced.
That is promoting this kind of modern version of events.
In many conferences, even if the conference is sponsored by a group that perhaps isn't, you can update the completely modernist group, some of their speakers they invite will be monitored.
Basically, their argument.
And again, I want to stress that this argument could be true for Christianity and Judaism whose teachings who said, are not really the complete revelations from others Nanos data. And in fact, pieces were meant for a particular time and people.
But there are many could never be true for them for the blind for the sooner that was revealed and protected, and preserved and meant to be our guide. And
their argument, again, is that we have to re evaluate religious truths, religious practices, in the light of modern science.
But one thing
has been preserved, we also have to remember that the facade, or the nature of man hasn't seen
the same moral truth. The same practices that will lead to good during the time of Islam are the same ones that will lead to
something harmful for the economy and for the individual, and for society as a whole. During the time,
the nature revised and changed the nature of people have changed. Is it still humble today, as it was not?
Now we go and hear what many people say we can see that they are, even if they don't go into monitors, it is one of the dangers of many of the monitors, they don't come up and say on the monitor.
They don't say it, but you can hear it, you can see it in their speech, you can hear what they say for example,
to give some example,
said in the lecture and this was a lecture that he gave to Christians, Muslims and non Muslims also think the lecture topic was the status of woman.
He talked about have a bucket
of a bucket I will narrate is that
standard whenever or that people will never prosper.
As long as the leadership is in the hands of a woman
and it's been agreed upon throughout the years. This is not
Proper for a woman, for example, allowed for a woman to be the head of state.
And this is examples I'm going to give basically, they're giving you the way the moderator thinks, the way the modernist pizza has been brought for our guests until today,
this person in his speech that first of all, the narrator was
I don't know how many of you know that.
One of the companions of the brothers.
And this is by the way
or they distort truth.
What are the 11, you cannot say any other way, is that according to the smaller companies of America is not an acceptable narrative
of this modern judge
I know in hobbies,
and I know what the person was saying wasn't true. But I went to all 15 of those books to find any one of the magazines as far as I did.
So then he goes on. And he says, although this
is usually a reliable source of pain,
he said, we can see that this is not true. Probably not.
What this group
is, that is not true. Because if we look at the world today, and we look at people like Rosa Meyer, Indira Gandhi, Margaret Thatcher, we see that people can prosper if they're the woman rollers. So that means that this cannot be true, the proper set of tenants, to the contradiction
England under monetization, whether they
concept of the law of prosperity.
not an increase the GNP, or decrease in unemployment,
but the concept of philosophy, all encompassing kind of the Buddhist which include both this journey and
people will not have
the leadership isn't the end
of alcoholism is going up, suicides going up rates is going up homosexuality, whatever.
Can you say that these countries are having.
And this is their way, this is their way they're going through the
signal from the very limited
And just just the sooner
and the likes of their limited knowledge. At the very
They know everything. And all these people have collapsed.
I would say that that person
was that statement was a little bit better than another statement, a leader of a movement, or Muslim group in the Muslim world.
been proven scientifically.
proven scientifically, that
we know that if we know that it's true.
applied to drink, you should put it in completely because one side of
the ocean the other side has the
He said about this Eddie.
He said I prefer to believe a cat or dog is in the book.
And this person is considered a leader of a Muslim movement.
Going back going back to the first person, another lecture that he gave in a in a conference in Stanford University and unfortunately, it wasn't his number.
He made the phone again shows you showed you how the modernist was also influenced by the modernist
The one organizers he was very clear about what I was supposed to fix.
While he spoke about what both me
all names, and they all represent. And some people were really upset about it.
So I think it's sufficient just to see the sign. And when you come across them, you don't
we learn from our experiences.
So there's a long lecture about
this. Towards the end of the lecture, he said,
is to make he heard
that famous is okay. Some scholars say some of the similar was if we had some sort of say, none of us know this yet, but that's okay.
It's saying within the realm of What's the score, does
that make it Yes.
Sometimes he was incorrect. Okay. That's okay. so forth. Okay. The problem with that,
is that sometimes it's not just an immediate, and Allah directed him to Google.
But here's the point. He said this, sometimes made mistakes, and a lot did not correct.
So what's his next statement, so we have to go to the sooner we have to determine where he was corrected.
And where he was incorrect.
This person is a well known speaker is speaking at a number of conference that shows you how widespread this was not just their institution, not just their magazines, but
even other speakers.
We went over that
want to buy the dates, Rebecca will be very happy to get all the names.
But again, this gives us an idea of how people are voting.
We have to judge
that one person said that it's okay now for women who are menstruating to pray.
Why? Well during the process,
now we have no fear that blood will fall on the ground.
And some of these you don't know whether to cry or do love
was the same was the person who said to know,
for example, that the American women
And so therefore, it's okay for American Muslim woman to marry a cat woman.
Same kind of approach.
I don't think we need any more examples.
Let me move on to what
what does that change it? What are some of the evil effects?
First of all, we have to realize that this group, these people, they have their own their own food they have their own their own methodology
is different from the methodology of medicine or GMO without any doubt.
And what does that mean? I mean, this group is another group from
another group of parents.
That were all the things that I said about the dangers of that applies to them, don't need to repeat them. But all of those things applies to them.
What is particularly particularly dangerous
about them in this country,
the many times they use tricky arguments, they verse they recite personal bond, or they say, Hello. And many times are reciting them to people who are not familiar with Arabic language.
That is false. That is whatever supports the argument.
And this is very dangerous because many Americans
many of them
are not going to be able to answer they're going to be maybe convinced, but
we would hope that some of them
will graduate people won't accept them. What about the ideas that
he had? And he was wrong? And I was interested.
He will give you a different word on where he made it.
And then he will leave it almost as a given that he has
to know we have to reevaluate
To see where he was, where he was.
And one of the greatest dangers of this group.
Probably one of the greatest dangers of this group is this people do not recognize these people, and that they do not recognize the danger that they're bringing about.
And I'll just give you one example.
To show you what I'm talking about. When I gave these lectures in our month and
seven lecture series.
And I quoted people that I gave this, people were upset with me for bringing up the statements.
me for giving a lecture above.
For the good brothers, we know these brothers,
they make our
But we have to be careful
that we cannot accept that evil.
You get a statement like that, if you give an opinion, I get it, you do it.
And it's obligatory upon us to change it. Even if it's from your father, your brother, your sister, your life doesn't matter what
even if someone is the greatest magician,
if he just spent the last 20 years when he comes in here 20 years when they have a dream of wanting to take a break? No one will, except
what if we make statements like this, which is just as much
One of the greatest dangers that people are not realizing who these people are, and one
of the headings of the woman lower. And the other thing about
How many of these tapes and everything are being distributed, and people are praising him, and the great smaller, suppose you just embrace it.
And you just embrace it,
because of his tower, what is spreading?
And then you go and listen to him.
He says something like this.
We have to realize this. We have to warn people. Yes, yes.
You want to make a dialogue, believe in dialogue with switches are debated.
But be careful about them Don't think about this in the future. Because
we have to recognize the people, we have to point out what they're saying. And we cannot defend them just because of the good that they did.
reward them for the good that they did.
And we accept them for these. But at the same time, if they do something wrong, we have to find this. And we have to stop this if we have the ability to do
what back as I mentioned in the statement from
the state agency, I don't know what the simple
is the one who says that Muslims have three choices, either stick to goals and stick with them, or leave them completely for the walk or modify them.
In fact, what he said there is really showing us what the modern is all about. They are actually taking people out of business.
If you are Muslim, but your way of thinking is completely modern modernity.
You've just come upon you reject them upon you accept some of the sooner you reject them sooner.
They are literally taking people out
and their beliefs and inaction.
And this is the greatest danger of this.
Maybe some of the stuff maybe some of the things that they do not cover. But if people continue in this way with that way of thinking, actually they are taking them out
was very important for us. Again, I must stress that it's very important for us to realize what this movement is, how they're making their job, what kind of arguments that they're making, so that inshallah Muslims of America, our brothers and sisters will not be fooled by this movement.
And then we'll see