Concept Of Extremism Part 2

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hamdulillah was local to them Allah said Mohammed was Sharon, Lola and hula, she Nicola shawanda, Mohammed Abu Who are

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the people who, and who became specialists in the deen, who went to like religious schools and so forth.

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In general, this lot.

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This group was made up of

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the worst students in the society.

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In other words, in many places, basically it was if you cannot get into the more important schools and more important subjects.

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If you cannot get into, for example, engineering, or sciences, and so forth,

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then you're stuck with either Arabic literature or the dean. So what happens is you get people who

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study the deen and because they study engineering, because they got some kind of degree, they are respected as

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the scholars of the deen.

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But the people with the best minds in the society,

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the people who could really think,

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who really had the mental faculties, they were all pushed into other sciences and other areas.

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And these are the people that we really need

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to analyze the situation of the Muslim Ummah, to analyze events and know how to react to them in the proper Islamic way.

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And if you're

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especially fearful of like what we could call current events, or know how to behave under different circumstances, this requires

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an academic background, real mental faculties to be able to understand and analyze and come to conclusion.

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Self is not just memorizing texts and being able to spit out the text when you're asked about something.

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But actually requires that people have the ability to understand phenomena,

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whether it's economic phenomena or political phenomena,

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sociological phenomena, however, you have to first understand the concept itself, what is going on, before he can make a fifth conclusion.

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And so the best minds of the Muslim Omar, they were pushed into other sciences, and the role of the dean and the role of the scholars

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or the I should say, the Islamic State agencies, these things, these were left for those people who could not get into those other areas.

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And in addition, in addition to that, also,

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in many of the schools, also the place that was given to the religious studies,

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maybe there'd be one course a day or one course a week, and it would always be like the last course, where everybody's exhausted and just want to get out.

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And the quality of the teacher usually also is not the best quality. So the whole,

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the whole system, in many Muslim countries for the past 102 150 years, was discouraging the real development of scholars, people who have in depth knowledge and understanding so that they could lead the Muslim.

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And if you are lacking those kinds of scholars,

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or for some reason the scholars that are there are not trustworthy, or they're not willing to speak.

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You know, the famous the

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famous quote from a madman

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about whether or not the scholar can resort to Sofia, and in this example, with the score has asked the question,

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Does he have the right to resort to this principle that

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out of fear some negative consequences, so for that he can lie and not say the truth.

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So in a madman, the answer to that was, if the scholar

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resorts to topia, and the ignorance is ignorance. When were the truth be told?

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And how is the truth going to be known?

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If the score is not speaking, and you cannot expect the ignorance to know what is the truth?

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And if the scores are fearful, and not willing to speak, then when is the truth going to be spoken? And who is it who's going to come up and say the truth

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and this is what has led

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to, for example, if we're talking, let's say in particular, the movements

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In Egypt, and by the way, the movement in Egypt, and why stress the move in Egypt is because it's also very relevant to the movement that still exists. Nowadays, the kind of extremist movements that exist nowadays.

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So when people don't have all them out,

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they turn to others like themselves who are ignorant like themselves, and they give what was for each other. And it's like the blind leading the blind.

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And what can you expect?

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You know, for example, the some of these extremist movements in Egypt that developed in the prisons in Egypt, they have some of the same thinking, as the Horace that we talked about.

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And when it was pointed out to them by other people in prison, who had maybe a little bit more knowledge, a little bit more experience, who are trying to advise them and saying, Look, you're going too far.

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They will tell them your beliefs, these ideas that you're promoting are the same ideas that were promoted by the whole artist way back when.

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And they had no clue who are the hottest, they never heard of them before.

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And they say for example, if you go to a Shara Shara suns book on the groups in Islam, you'll find the same arguments that you make.

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They said, you know, I've never heard that.

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One of them said, Oh, I remember seeing that in the library. So.

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So the scores are not fulfilling the rule. First of all, we don't have the scores, and you're not developing the real scholars.

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And I think I touched upon that, this kind of importance of this in my in my lecture last night, so I'll not get into it here. But obviously, if you don't have the real scholars, and the real scholars are not willing to come out and speak and guide, then you don't have the people who will be able to see what are the extremes? And what is the middle road that is pleasing to us.

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So it can be expected under circumstances like that, that people will fall into one extremism or another extreme.

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Most of the

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factors that have been speaking about so far,

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deals with internal situation within the Muslim woman.

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However, there's no question

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that the international arena, the international situation, is also greatly responsible for a great factor in the development

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and the spreading of extremist views among Muslims.

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You know, for example, if you if you go through what is quoted from Finland, for example,

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you know, after the attacks on the World Trade Center, and all that stuff about all the hate our freedoms and so forth.

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I don't know who came up with that. But

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if you go, for example, to the people that they claim are the ones responsible.

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What are they talking about? They're talking about, for example, the situation in Palestine,

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the situation in Iraq,

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the military presence in, for example, in Saudi Arabia,

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even Finland, referred to the bombing of

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Hiroshima and Japan.

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What was that even if you and Well, unfortunately, Americans are not really into their own history.

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Unless you talk about maybe the history of basketball and baseball,

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otherwise, they're not even the hit. Even the bombing, the dropping of the atomic bomb in Japan,

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is well recognized by many American historians. The purpose of that was not to defeat the Japanese. Because the Japanese were already ready to surrender.

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They didn't need to drop those bombs in order for the war to come to me. That's the official excuse that they give now. Oh, we drop those bombs.

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Yes, we killed so many hundreds of 1000s. But it was for good cause because to save so many other people from dying.

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Historians know that wasn't the case. The war was coming to an end, the Japanese were ready to serve.

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Now, what's the theory of why they dropped the bomb.

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If you want to read about that, you can read about it on your own.

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In general, I don't

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discuss political issues,

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details or political issues too much.

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And the reason I don't discuss it as

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the number of reasons so let me just preface some of the points that I'm going to make by

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by giving these

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these introductory

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points.

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One of the reasons of course, is that there's so much that we as Muslims need to know about our own Deen itself.

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That if you have a conflict of time,

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what are you going to spend your time on, it's much better for us Muslim to spend our time low knowing and really understanding what our Deen is telling us.

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And what it is we're supposed to believe how we're supposed to behave, and so forth.

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And also the, when it comes to political, political issues,

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it's very easy to go to an extreme

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extreme, it's everywhere,

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very easy to go overboard the general principles,

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especially of international politics, and so forth, they are clear, just even from the put on, assume that you can understand what is going on in the world.

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But it's very easy to go into detail and political issues. And that will take up your whole time.

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If, for example, the Arab Israeli conflict is over 1000 books written just here in the United States are available.

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And if you want to get into it, and you know, say, Oh, so and so said this on such and such date, and, and he just could take up your whole life.

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Just studying this, this conference,

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I don't think there's any need for us in general to get. And it's not even to speak about the fact that now every day, there's newspapers and the Internet, and all of that other information that if you get if you allow yourself to get too much involved in it.

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And it will be something that will, it will cost you it'll cost you in the sense that that time that you're spending, learning all that stuff, you could have been maybe learning just the basis of that and spending your other time learning things which are more important to you.

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Plus,

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and this is a very important point.

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And when you read about

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international politics, and what is going on what is going on in the 20th century, what is going on in the 21st century,

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especially with respect to the Muslim Ummah, and how the Muslim oma is being

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treated,

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unless you have some good understanding of the Quran sooner, unless you have some basics of Eman in your heart,

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it is very easy to be overcome by these things such that it will drive you to do some acts, or drive you to some positions which are extremist positions.

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And if you just concentrate on reading about these kind of things.

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And you do not have the proper image any kind of balance in your in your in your heart and in your mind. These kinds of things if you read them, and if you're aware of what has happened to the Muslim owned by the coupon, it can easily drive you to extremist positions, extreme acts.

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And it is really one of the major causes. And we have to recognize the fact it is one of the major causes behind the extremism that exists in in the Muslim world.

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So you cannot concentrate on studying those things, unless you also concentrate on reading the Quran. And remembering Allah subhanho wa Taala to put the proper balance back into your heart and your mind that you see things in shallow in the correct way.

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However, at the same time, to some extent, I think it is important that we study some of these topics. And we understand what is going on because also our judgments of each other

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is sometimes colored by the fact that we are ignorant of certain facts that maybe others are well aware of.

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And we judge things based on what we know.

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And we make conclusions about others

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due to our lack of knowledge of certain things that have occurred.

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So we may take positions, we may have beliefs based on our lack of knowledge of some things that have occurred and plus, in addition,

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you know, Someone once asked me, what's the point of

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one time I lectured about some recent events in the Muslim world of the past in the past century.

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Someone asked me, you know, what's the

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what's the point of that? You know, Allah subhanho wa Taala tells us in the forum, for example, will in total ban Can you hold within the sada has

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This is where Melissa home Jews and the Christians are not going to be pleased with you until you follow their way of life.

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And clear science from the Quran. And so we don't even need to discuss we know these facts already. But sometimes, as in the story of Abraham Ali Salaam, sometimes Seeing is believing,

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if you know the facts, and you may think about those issues

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on a theoretical level, but when you actually see them and realize what is going on,

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your belief in what the Quran is telling you becomes firmer.

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And the reality of the prom becomes very clear to

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me, for example, in that point, there are many people, Muslims here in the United States that cannot imagine that there's really any hatred between the Christians and Jews vs. Versus Islam, towards Islam. And also, finally,

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we have to make sure

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that we are not fooled

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by the kuffar also

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be put in situations where they deceive us about their acts.

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And we come to some conclusions which are not correct.

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For example,

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there was a there was a young republicans conference, University of Oregon,

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if you ever want to source of

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humorous anecdotes, just watch a young Republican conference.

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So they're the speaker towards a woman, she's the far right.

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SPEAKER I forget, can never remember her name.

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Anyway, this was shortly after September 11. And so someone in the audience stood up and asked the question

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that,

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you know, don't you think that American foreign policy is has something to do with the existence of these terrorists and the acts that they perform?

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And so the woman she answered

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that the last two wars that we've gone through, had been on behalf of Muslims.

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And it seems like the Muslims are not getting the picture.

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The last two wars that America went through, were on behalf of most

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American American or Muslims here in this country, they hear this kind of thing. They might be fooled. But

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first of all, do you imagine that, that

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America is really going to go to war on on behalf of Muslims, and that's going to be the real intent behind it. Similarly, in Newsweek magazine, one time they had this issue, I forget, I think they had something to put on on the cover.

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And they had an arc. They had an article in there, and also the author, the author of that article, article, Christopher Dickey.

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He mentioned the fact that Americans defended Muslims against the likes of Saddam Hussein. And slova Slobodan Milosevic, was ignored, because forbidden law is forbidden lands, blurry minded purposes, it had to be.

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So here again, they're trying to paint America as this great defender of Muslims,

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defending Muslims from Saddam Hussein and defending Muslims from Milosevic.

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And these are the kind of issues that if you allow yourself just to listen to the mainstream media, and so forth, you might be duped into believing that this is the case

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that America is actually our friend.

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And they've come to our defense, and many and many on many occasions. And I think if you

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take the time to analyze it a little bit closer, you find that maybe, in fact, what they claim is not true whatsoever.

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However, at the same time,

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I must

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emphasize the fact that we cannot put the blame for our problems.

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We cannot put all the blame for our problems on the disbelievers

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as I talked about before, and in the Battle of what the defeat of the battle ahead was because of what we as Muslims did,

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and Allah subhanho wa Taala also, another place in the Quran reminds us as well the human movement masiva so we were cassava a vehicle. We have one computer

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that anyone will see but any affliction that afflicts you is the result of what your own hands have earned.

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And he can do lots of hand with dollar overlooks a lot.

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And in other words, the afflictions that come to us, they come to us as a Muslim oma is the result of our own actions.

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First and foremost, they are the result of our own actions, our own turning away from Allah subhanho wa Taala our own ignorance of the guidance of Allah subhana wa Tada.

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So we can never put the blame

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on what occurs to us completely at the hands of looking forward and see all of this is because of the support.

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We have to look to ourselves and say, Look, it is because of our own weakness

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of our own negligence of our own forgetfulness of Allah subhana wa tada then Allah subhanho wa Taala has allowed this to occur to the Muslim.

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And in fact, in the head, he proposed

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the poster Selim said it will be soon that Oman the other nations will come and attack you or come to you like the one who is eating food comes to his plate.

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And when the Sahaba

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when the when the Sahaba when the Sahabi asked him, you know, is it at that time is this because we want to be in a small, we're going to be a small number. And that's why they're going to easily come and just attack us like someone eating from a plate.

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The problem is that seller will tell him No, it's not because

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of your small number.

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But you will become like the frog on the sea. Now we talked so much about we are 1 billion Muslims.

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But we are as the Hadees process describes us.

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And we are like the frog from the sea we are just being pushed around have no strength of our own. And Allah subhanho wa Taala will remove the art from the hearts of your enemies, and will put

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in your hearts will put away.

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And when the post I sent him was asked what is this and when the prophet SAW sent him said dunya walk around Walker here to note

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the love of this Jr. and hatred for just

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the love of this jr and hatred for death

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when the Muslims begin to just love this Jr, and their purpose in their life is for this dunya and they fear death they fear giving up and sacrificing for the sake of Allah subhanho wa Taala

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then Allah subhanho wa Taala allows the other among the other nations, to come to us and to attack us

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or to devour us like being called to.

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And like people being called to dinner, so to speak.

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In particular.

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If you study, for example, in the past century, last century,

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if you study

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what has been the West's attitude towards Islam, first of all, and that's where we have to start with By the way,

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we have to start with the West's attitude towards Islam.

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It has been clear

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from along

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for many years ago,

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that the West has recognized that Islam is really a threat to them.

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This is first, this first was expressed clearly by the West themselves.

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You can trace it back even before much of the Islamic movement exists.

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That they recognize that a threat to them is in fact, the West.

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Richard Nixon, for example,

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Richard Nixon who was president?

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When was he? 68 to 72, at least right?

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He's the one who took us out of Vietnam, right?

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It's amazing how history can be changed so easily. No, like Nixon was this great anti war hero.

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Nixon said that Islam is going to become a geopolitical force.

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And such a danger to the west, that the West will be forced to cooperate with Moscow to face this opposition in the Islamic world.

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The West is going to be able is going to be forced

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to cooperate with Russia, the Soviets, the communists, the socialists, whatever you want to call them.

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They were not really communist, they weren't anything.

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The story, there's a story of a joke of or accidents, a story in Belgrade,

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in Belgrade after the fall of socialism or communism, somebody wrote on on a wall, bring us back socialism because, you know, life was miserable, miserable when capitalism entered. So someone wrote on the wall, bring us back socialism. And somebody else wrote before we never had socialism. And so the first guy went back, bring us back what we had before.

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So here, Richard Nixon is saying arch enemy if you know Richard Nixon.

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He was one of those big anti communists, you know, just like, he was like a pre Reagan, Reagan.

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He's saying, we're going to have to work with Moscow to fight this Islamic force.

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And that is the Islam and West are opposites. And we have to be the West has to be ready to meet this Islamic challenge.

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Actually, when you look at what has happened since the fall of the Soviet Union, they are in fact working together.

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To fight

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Margaret Thatcher, y'all remember, Margaret Thatcher. Someone who was quoted by someone by the way, is showing that the Hadith of the Prophet system was not being authentic hadith. This is the people will not prosper of the Peters, a ruler. And the person pointed to Margaret Thatcher. Well, people

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were after the fall of after the fall of the Soviets.

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The North Atlantic Treaty Organization, NATO, basically NATO was a response to the Warsaw Pact. NATO was a response to the so the the socialist pact,

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to defend the West against the socialists.

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So after the fall of socialism, NATO had no purpose. Really, they had to look for purpose, to continue to exist, and Margaret Thatcher

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gave them the purpose.

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She said that my NATO must be preserved in order to face the Islamic danger.

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And one of the

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one of the CIA officials during the Reagan years

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he was talking about while working in the rigging, he said there was a general genuine, visceral fear of Islam in Washington as a force that was utter utterly alien to American thinking. And that really scared us.

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senior people at the Pentagon and elsewhere, were much more concerned about Islam than communism was during the Reagan years.

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There were much more concerned about Islam than communism. It was almost obsessive fear, leading to a mentality on our part, that you should use any stick to be the dog to stop the advance of Islamic fundamentals.

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So what he's saying here is that they should use any force whatsoever that they have to stop Islamic fundamentalism.

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Then he would say Islamic extremism.

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He said Islamic fundamentalism use any stick that you can use to stop Islamic fundamentalism.

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Anyone wait when we discuss the current situation, and especially when the coupons come to us and discuss the current situation? Why do they hate us? Remember all that talk? Why do they hate us? Why do you also what is the real purpose behind your hatred for Islam in the Muslim world?

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Why during the Reagan years that you have such a fear of Islam, that you should? That's one of the CIA officials could describe it as saying you should use any stick to beat the dog?

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Before you even ask, why do they hate us talking about the Muslims hating America? The first question is why does America take this stance towards Islam from the beginning?

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What was the rational stance that you are the rationale behind the stance that you've taken

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and the steps that you have implemented which are clearly going to to result in violence interaction between the two civilizations? Why do you also what is the real purpose behind your hatred for Islam in the Muslim world?

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Why during the Reagan years

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You have such a fear of Islam, that you should, that's one of the CIA officials could describe it as saying you should use any stick to beat the dog.

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Before you even ask why do they hate us talking about the Muslims hating America? The first question is why does America take this stance towards Islam from the beginning? What was the rational stance that you are the rationale behind the stance that you've taken,

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and the steps that you have implemented, which are clearly going to, to result in violent interaction between the two civilizations.

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And, of course, we can't forget Israel's role

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in all of this, and also propagating this kind of fear among the Americans.

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Israel, at one time, it had a very important role in the Middle East. And that was to,

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to destroy and to fight the kind of Arab nationalism that was growing and developing in that area.

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But now its major role

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is to help in the fighting against Islamic fundamentalism. And in fact,

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Sakura been said that Islamic fundamentalism is spreading out to the Middle East.

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The world must follow Israel's rule and fighting this movement.