Tafakkur – Sura Al-Nur 1-3 – Ramadan 1445
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Leave that kind of stuff out. So I
don't think anybody's going to be online. Right?
But
I'm about to do a recording with,
a couple of guests here. Let me show
you who they are.
You must tell us before you eat lunch.
There's literally nobody on and and that's Mona
Zakaria,
Hanukkah. I was almost gonna say
Just just because,
you know, people were coming to me and
they were saying,
back with with with water in the eyes.
And like a little boy,
next thing the little boy shout out to
the boy. His name is Taha. And he
came with thing. He's telling me his name.
I was like, yeah salaam. Mhmm. A little
Taha and his father going to ask you,
and you're gonna have the the tafakkur thing.
So I said,
let's do it. But the problem is getting
the
respected shayuk here,
you know, together in one spot, even in
one chat room I had an hour here
and these guys are late. Is difficult.
I'm safe because I'm not the sheikh. So
if you're saying that it's getting the sheikh
in and then
then I'm excluded from the category. So problem
could only be the brother that's to my
right and the brother that's not here at
the moment.
Yeah. So you know what? I'm gonna do
a live recording.
So I chose Surah Nur as the,
one of the 3 Surahs that I want
to focus on this Ramadan.
Right? Surah Noor, Surah Al Ahazab, and Surah
Hujurat.
Is this in your
classes? In general, as as a as a
theme. So whether it be yeah. So whether
the whether this be at the masjid or
whether it be,
online,
right, that I would focus my attention on
on that because it gives us,
something about the Quran that we we don't
explore enough of, like how must we just
be as people with each other on a
day to day basis.
How how must brothers and sisters be, how
must mommies and children be and so on
and so forth.
So the Surah is this one specifically is
the one that I chose to begin with,
and you guys could probably relate to this
one. Ali Godo is very passionate about the
Surah. Mhmm. And he continues to be, of
course,
he would like really look forward to teaching
us this because
he used to go to, I think, Sayidna
Umar. Sayidna Umar.
And
would say that every home I think he
wrote to his,
he
Omar Radiallon actually wrote to his, like, ministers
telling the people that they must teach their
women for Oh, is it? Yeah. Do you
know what I mean? Ajib My Nadir used
to give, like, a build up to it.
And he used to say, we're almost we're
gonna soon.
And when we did it, it was like,
you know, that curiosity was created already.
Nam,
so basically
when
when I,
remembered this and why and what I picked
up from it, I thought let's let's explore
this. It's it's one of the main aspects
of Islam. We we constantly deal with a
badat, right, which is essential.
We deal with Aqeedah.
Right.
When we deal with Muamalat, it's often restricted
to formal contract law, right,
but when do we ever deal with just
how we must be with one another? So
the the Surah is basically about that. Now
I'm gonna hand you over to, That's quite
interesting that you mentioned that because,
like, that selection of Suwad, they all focus
on social etiquette,
but, like, in a different way. Mhmm. So
that the lure is more like, interaction between
males and females. Right.
It's about how we interact within a society.
No. And it's about,
you know, laws of visitation and things like,
whose house you can just eat from Yeah.
Stuff like that. And and then And and,
like, serious stuff also, like,
like, you know? Yeah.
I mean, because,
look. That's obviously one of the greatest pitfalls
of interaction between males and females in a
noncompartment. And it has the biggest effects in
society. You know, it actually starts out like
this.
It looks at society,
but it starts out with the smallest building
block of society. So you have an individual.
Shamil. But when you but when you,
when you wanna start building community,
you can't just
it starts with units, man, and the unit
is a family. True. And the most optimistic,
family is Is the couple. Is the couple.
Right? So, I mean, that's why all the
start that I could actually write them. The
mic What do you mean? I'm sitting with
cough from just now. Do you know how
much is that mic? Sensitive. I don't know
where
cough even the eldest mic picking it up.
I'm gonna move it off the table. So
I mean, like, when Allah subhanahu wa'ala created
us, he created,
Adam alaihis salam and Hawa alaihis salam,
you know, and sent them both down to
us together. Yeah. The smallest units of the
family. So
the first part of the Surah
deals with threats to that relationship. No.
Right. And then after you it does everything
to fortify that relationship, you know, then it
goes up broader. Mhmm. And and, you know,
it will speak about
how your children
should sanctify that space. Mhmm. So for example,
like, in this word Allah, subhanahu, will speak
about the times when they have to knock
on the door, they have to seek permission
to enter Yes. On your private space. Yes.
Even your children are like Yes. You know,
people might not know that there's times in
the day when you your children are supposed
to, like, not just walk into your room.
No.
And that's usually the times where people would
Even to the extent even to the extent
of
knocking on doors before you enter or seeking
permission before you enter. Like, it gets into
that level of of detail. Even an abandoned
home, like No. Yeah.
Anjeem. So so the Surah start let's go
into verse number 1.
Just Sir Ahmad, can you
can you
just start the translation of the first verse?
So,
and,
subhanAllah
as you
okay. I'm not gonna cough. I'm gonna Disstrating.
Though. I'm gonna It's distracting. You must actually
now in this new studio, you must put
up, like, a do's and don'ts on the
wall so that you can hear. But you're
looking so slick as so. It's supposed to
be like. Yeah. But it
doesn't
mean I'm it's still anyway,
You know, you mentioned earlier, I can, like,
when I'm as I'm translating the second, like,
to his
voice and the emphasis that he put on,
you know,
Allah says that Suratun, this is a a
chapter.
We sent it down.
And we we made it we made it
compulsory.
And we sent down and we revealed
We
sent
clear clear verses.
Clear.
So that perhaps you
that perhaps you may be reminded.
And, you know, I think Melissa Karee gave
a
a really beautiful framework for us to to
build on from the Surah. I really never
thought about it like that. But it's a
very logical conclusion, man. It's like all logical
approach. Like, if you're building a wall, but
each of the bricks
of that wall is cracked and fragile, then
in essence, the wall is gonna be cracked
and fragile.
Whereas, if the bricks that you're building the
wall with, the components that's put this that
you being utilized to put it together is
strong within itself, then you can expect a
strong product, man. And taking that and using
it as as a as a metaphor for
building communities and building a strong Islamic community.
You know you know wait wait wait wait
wait. Listen to what he just said. Right?
And that is usually the tafsir given for
the word Surah.
Because the word Surah comes from Sur, right,
which means a wall. I see. So this
set of walls,
essentially, is one unit.
So how
And and that you didn't know that. Right?
I didn't know that. I'm learning it now
from here. No. I'm I'm saying so because
it's it's just like so beautiful that that
was your example and then your example is
like exactly the explanation of the first word.
Subhanallah. Subhanallah.
Yeah. Yeah. And I think See that's what
happens when you read the arbinder like that?
Well, I know. So,
so yeah. I think, you know, as we
as we're going through these verses,
it's important,
to like you said, you're using it as
a theme for Ramadan that the Surah and
Surah are not even maybe like I mentioned
earlier that you someone decided to attack me
for I was using padir as a theme
for this Ramadan and so on but
I think it's a theme everywhere.
And then he managed and then he managed
to bring it up again. Yeah. This team
will mock it again. He managed to he
managed to bring it up again. I wrote
the because this is how it's going and
I got it again like but anyway but
my point is, if people have a a
framework, just even from a developmental perspective. Right?
With, with with like, in coaching, we use
it when people wanna progress in something or
they wanna when they wanna achieve something. You
have to create a framework.
In the absence of framework, you're not gonna
be able to, you know, cage, am I
on the right path or not on the
right path. And that's essentially what the Sharia
is. The Sharia is a framework.
Place you on this. So what do you
do? What then? You do as a framework
for yourself. Now you stay within the framework,
and then you can, you know, as they
would colloquially say, go post within the framework,
but you have a framework over there. So
now if you're entering this Ramadan and we
now trying to and the of this podcast
always was to take Quran into people's homes
and, you know, we that at the time,
obviously, people couldn't come out to get the
Quran in the Masajid and things like we
used to. So then he always take the
Quran into their homes. And if you're watching
this podcast, then you're taking the very first
listen that brought forward is that he picked
something,
and again,
one has the ability to recite the Quran
and understand the Quran and go through the
tafsir of the entire Quran, but still what
does he do? He picks 2 or 3
sur and he uses that as the framework
for his Ramadan.
So now we discussing Surah Nur, and then
again, obviously, we definitely like, when I Zakaria
said, Surah Nur is like your packed and
loaded. But, hopefully, it it gives us the
the the the the desire. It builds the,
what's that? It builds the,
inquisitiveness within us to want to, to want
to learn more about it, but to use
it as a framework is important. And the
framework is given
is that
starting off
as individual
family units, you know, yourself, spouse, children, parents,
that etiquette In fact in fact, you know,
what I find so what I find is
before the surah even speaks about,
like, an,
you know, an advice or an encouragement to
get married,
It speaks about, like,
not
at at
at wards off those things that are detrimental
or most detrimental to a marriage.
So Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala almost sets the
parameters around those things before you even encourages
to get married. No. I was gonna say
no. It it actually starts. I mean, you
could actually even consider it start, like, an
interaction between males and females before
marriage. Because what we're talking about, I mean,
at the beginning, we're gonna get into, like,
the laws of,
the laws pertaining to people who commit sinner.
But the punishment that's mentioned in the Quran
only pertains
to people who have never been married before.
Yeah. But now you're jumping in. Okay. You're
like jumping in. I'm just giving you a
framework. It actually starts with preserving the marital
home,
right, before marriage.
Yeah. Yeah. Agile. So okay. And and that
that that's a recurring theme because there's a
couple of verses that
almost predict in a sense that
people who come with Zena will end up
with people who come with Zena. You know,
that type of thing, man. And there's a
lot to discuss about that.
Right?
But what's interesting is that it connects here
already.
So Allah says,
this is a Surah, we have made it
obligatory,
Just like an interesting thing
to find in the in the beginning of
a surah because everything Allah says Yeah. Is
final. Yeah. Allah doesn't even say surah. Allah
doesn't even say that about Surah Fatihah.
Yeah. And you and you have to be
reciting Surah Fatihah in every rakkah. Exactly. Every
salah in your salah. The first thing you'll
be asked about in their yeah. I mean
but you're all agreeing that. It it stands
out because the surah starts of like.
Right. Okay. Next next verse. Let's go to
the next verse.
Wait, Manu Zakaria can,
translate the next verse.
I mean, like, I know your turban is
big. Go for it. Go for
it. And and also just before we translate
the verse, right, what's important here is that,
like, that's the point actually brought up. You
said he's jumping the gun, but that's exactly
what Allah does here in the Surah. After
that very short verse that starts the Surah,
Allah gets straight into something which definitely grabs
everyone's attention. Yeah. So that's how I introduced
this,
series to the JAMA'A. I said this year,
we're doing a surah, the 2nd verse in
the surah says, and then I just said
what it takes.
And then there was something like,
heck, you guys. So let's see what it
takes. No. No. I actually think that that
the first point that I'm making is very
important. Mhmm. All of the laws that are
mentioned in the Quran, all the commands, they
they they are in position upon us by
Allah Subhanahu. Mhmm. But Allah doesn't have to
tell us. Allah tells you, like,
No.
And then that's it. Yeah. Allah says I
will reveal the Surah, and I've made it
compulsory upon you. I've, you know, I've imposed
it upon you. It was like a like
a No. No. So so so what so
it's
it is like almost like you are very
aware of the fact that you have to
do this. Yeah.
So it's social norms. And social norms are
usually like, yeah, we dictate for ourselves and
he was comfortable and whatever. If I was
a lot like, I don't have to worry
about that. Actually, I think, you know, this
this you know, in in our time, for
example, there's people who question the idea of
management.
Like, why does my marriage needs why my
why does my relationship
with another person need to be regulated by
marriage?
No. They don't see value to these things,
but if you're not the religious person, why
would you get married? Uh-huh.
I can be seen Interesting. Interesting. Wait. Just
a quick question. Muslims?
Any any religious person. No. I'm saying, do
Muslims have this notion that I think it's
saying, can you send me, common thing? Yo.
That's scary. But now tell us what the
verse says, man. Before you come in the
You're from the first one? Yes. The second
and the second verse. Okay. The second one
says
I was coming to the first one. Anyways,
the second one says, a Zanian to a
Zani. We started the second one.
Yeah. But I wasn't finished speaking about the
first one. Okay. Talk about the first one.
Now I'm gonna read through the second one.
I I honestly thought we were done in
the first
verse?
The second verse is
The female
fornicator,
the female fornicator,
and the male fornicator.
Female fornicators.
Fornicators. Yeah.
Okay.
Alright. English.
He rectified me earlier.
Hamil Hamil. Now is it? Yeah. No. Because
that that wasn't because it wasn't on camera.
And it's Arabic. Yeah. But English, we can
do what you want to do. No. No.
I'm just doing English. No. I'm switching
to all the wrong cameras. Yeah.
Azaniatwazani,
the female, the fornicators,
and the fornicator.
Lash
each of them a 100 times.
And let compassion or lenience not seize you
in relation to exacting or executing the deen
of Allah. The the one the one translation
says, don't pity them. Yeah. Don't pity them.
That's the whole thing. Don't pity them. And
and it's the way Allah says it is
not like, let
Let pity for them not
seize
you such that you will now refrain from
fully fulfilling what Allah commanded you to do.
No.
In the in the religion of Allah, meaning
in exacting or fulfilling the religion of Allah.
If you believe in Allah and the last
day.
Imagine that. Imagine that. Allah is telling you.
If you believe in Allah in the last
day,
don't let your emotions get in the way
of you lashing these people 100 times. Adi.
And Allah specifically says Bima. Yeah. Because that
man, I would still
be correct if you take Bima out there
that look at don't let the,
don't let compassion
overtake you.
Alright? In executing the deen of Allah. But
Allah specifically says
regarding these 2 that did this
thing. Alright. Don't let it come in in
in And there's many ways to say, you
know, don't let
don't let compassion overtake you regarding the matter.
There's many ways to say that, but Allah
said,
Just to remind you Yeah. These are not
man made laws that they overstepped.
Yeah. This is God's law.
Like our creator,
he decided that this is where you draw
the line. Subhanallah.
So it's it's look. Let's face it. Right?
In the scheme of things, it's a harsh
verse.
Yeah. No. I mean And it's meant to
be. None of the next part. I mean,
still the that was Allah says
and let witness
the punishment or use the word.
Yeah. Not had or, you know,
or, like other words that that that's useful
like a a penalty.
The Azir. That is Allah
Let witness the punishment.
A group of the believers.
So it must be is there a private
thing? Yeah. You did it. Now we're gonna
give you hiding in the room. No.
Put that.
I can say first.
And
just hiding in public. Okay. So so But
but,
you know, I always I I think this
highlights something. Actually, this verse is so packed
with me.
The one is that this is what we
call an exemplary punishment.
Naam, you're punishing them to show others
what, what the consequences of such an action
is. Right. That's why other people must see
it.
And,
but before we even get to that, like,
this is what we call in the Sharia
I can't believe there's 18 people.
Awaken out watching this. Yeah.
Help the finish. Because
I put it on my status when you
went live. So I said it shut. Didn't
listen. The guy takes care of that. Did
I I I can send you the link
on me, though. Yeah. That will be great.
So,
yeah. I mean, point point 1 was that
it's an exemplary
punishment.
Point 2. I mean, we could start in
order. I'm actually going backwards now. But
this is what we call a
this is what we call
a had,
a penalty in Islamic law. Right?
And, generally, the pay the penalties of Islamic
law, Islamic penal law, right,
has to be
executed
or fulfilled through an Islamic judiciary. No. An
official official
Islamic judicial. So so what this means is,
like, if you're,
you know, if you find somebody
I was gonna say a kid, your kid,
whatever, but, you know, I don't wish it
on anybody.
If somebody's found guilty But if somebody's found
guilty, like, you know, maybe in your area,
whatever, of of of committing xenon,
you can't just take them and lash your
mind at a time.
That And, again, to reiterate, you made this
point early on, but it was, miss Smith,
and I said it was premature,
is that this is only regarding people who
were never married. Right. That's that's very important.
This is not for anyone who committed, Zena.
This is what we call,
fornication.
Like, there's this distinction fornication
Amen. And adultery. Yeah. Right? Your adultery is
after marriage, but there's a technical difference because
adultery means, like, you're in a marriage. Well,
married. Yeah. Yeah. But for Islam Yeah. For
Islam, it's not about whether you're in a
marriage or not. It's whether you were even
married.
So if you get married, right,
and then you get divorced,
and then you come at dinner.
The ruling applies as if you Then the
ruling apply,
applies to you as if you I mean,
you are somebody that experienced marriage before. So
what they can So what actually happens is
what no. It
it it It's considered a delta. Sorry. It's
delta. So what happens is then you don't
get less than 100 times.
You get,
you I just wanna see how much we
influencing you. Okay. You're
an influencer.
I don't know if that sounds you proud
of, but okay.
No. I mean, I'm she's my friend to
say that. Okay.
Just joking. Yeah. But it is what I
want to say is that
you don't get the handed lashes there because
these lashes are not actually meant to these
lashes are not meant to, like,
kill you or, like, harm you in a
in a irritable way.
That's why there's rules around how to lash.
You can't, like, lift your arm too high.
There's there's rules pertaining to the thing that
you use to lash. Mhmm. There's, Where you
can lash. Exactly. The person that lashes. There's
rules for all of those things. No.
And it's it's an exemplary punishment like I
said. It's not it's gonna be painful.
So you didn't tell us what's the punishment
for the person who commits adultery? Yeah. But
the punishment for adultery
is that the person should be stoned to
death.
Mhmm. Yes, I am. Again, like I said,
these are
these are
hoodood.
These are parts of Islamic penal law that
require a. So nobody in the community should
go and take this into their own hands.
Right? Canalah people. If you if you if
I have somebody stoning somebody because they did
adultery, look, I'm absolved from it. You're not
supposed to do that. You're not to call
this. Somebody says,
somebody says, brother Adil Islam, he says, why
the difference between the 2? Assalamu alaikum.
Why the difference between the 2? Why? Well,
because if you're somebody that's been married, you
you know
how accessible marriage is, and you can get
into another marriage, etcetera. So there's no reason
for you really to be I want to
I want to answer this according to,
if you don't mind. I want to give
answer because it it's it's.
It's beautiful. It's apt. Okay. Right? It's not
my answer. Go ahead. So don't
get excited.
But, Molem Mo'ad, Allah preserve him.
He said,
Allah granted you a land
and tools
and seeds.
And he said, fill this land, it's your
land.
So you know what it's like to make
a dead land fertile. Like you know what?
A halal
dolff is
a a wholesome one.
So you know what it tastes like man.
Now after you've tasted permissible,
you select to go
plant in somebody else's land. Yeah.
Yeah.
So you after tasting that it was permissible,
you're going to build on a vacant land
or somebody else's land or something, but the
land that doesn't belong to human. No. Do
you know what I mean? That you didn't.
So it's like, sir, it's such a it's
such a a heinous,
like,
expression of an ingratitude.
Put it that way. And and and Against
Allah. And I think when, you know, when
you when you're making the example, Marena,
that people might think that you are,
you know, in our society, people say, oh,
no. I didn't even think of that now.
No. You object. But you're right. Yeah. Yeah.
No. No. You're right. Fine. So, sir, the
the point was not to compare the the
woman. Okay. I guess it did No. No.
No. No. No. But but what what I
want to say is I think, you know,
that might come into mind because of the
idea of and the policies.
Yes. But actually, the punishment applies a pick
applicably, I mean, in the same application to
mother or female.
Yes. Exactly. It applies the same way to
a male or female in that regard. So
it's not like in any way,
biased in that regard. In fact, this is
one of the only laws
in the Quran wherein Allah mentions the female
perpetrator of the crime
before the
male.
The female perpetrator of the Quran before the
male. Usually, the norm of the Quran is
that Allah mentions,
whether it be a virtue or a wrong
thing. Allah first mentions the male and then
I've heard some ajeev explanations as to why
that is. Right? And I don't agree with
with many of them.
But one one interpretation that stands out for
me is that,
women are often objectified,
and they're they're often put as the the
symbol of sex men. So to attract men
so because they are used like that Yeah.
They mentioned first. It's not that
you know what I mean? Like, the other
explanation is that, no, they normally the ones
who initiate the Zena, which is that's not
true. Yeah. Do you know what I mean?
And, of course, you can't
attribute something to the Quran that's that's statistically
not true. Sometimes I just think to myself,
you know what? Allah needs to in his
divine words and put it like it. Mhmm.
Wonder about why it's so. Yeah. Exactly. And
and allow the listeners to to sink in.
Yeah. And then you can ask us
a male thief and a female thief. Yeah.
But they okay. All I know is best.
Look, so it's a very serious thing. Like
Yeah. I mean And it it it's very
harsh. There's other cases in the Quran where
Allah only mentions a male or or like
perpetrator or Allah only mentions a female perpetrator
crime like in No. No. A nafasat.
No. No. Allah doesn't mention the male counterpart.
Even though, like, which No. We just we
just we just blow in the knot. Yeah.
So Allah doesn't mention the males. Though males
can equally partake in black women. Deprize to
them. So I mean, these are things there
for us to ponder upon. Yeah. So the
other important point, like a very serious point
in this regard is also
that if you look in the life of
the prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wa sallam,
while this
had occurred,
the usual circumstance
was aversion.
The point in these laws, in these akham,
while very real,
is to be a mean a measure of
prevention, a preventative measure.
You with me? Mhmm.
In lands where
your hand gets chopped off because you because
you stole,
you'll find that there's barely any theft. Mhmm.
You're with me?
And that's that the frequency of those things
are very, very, very infrequent.
I mean, in the time of Rasulullah salazar
the recorded cases that we have of, you
know, that had actually been implemented
was by and large when people were asking
for it. Yes. Exactly. So somebody actually coming
forth and then confessing. And Rasulullah salallahu alayhi
was trying to turn them away? Yes. Several
times. Yeah. Several times. So in other words,
he didn't actually want
to carry it out, right, in a sense.
And He didn't want to carry it out
when he saw the person was repented.
No. No. But but, I mean, following on
with that
instruction of Allah,
You know, there's one case
there's one case, Yeah. How do you how
do we reconcile that in in the sense
of so the prophet, he
actually appears to not want him to to,
go ahead with it. Yeah. Because you see,
if if there's a, if there's any, like,
if there's any argument that the person can
put forth
or anything
that would avert the penalty, then generally in
the law, we would avert the penalty. Correct.
Like,
like in the case of a pregnant lady
maybe.
Her child, a newborn child will need it.
You can't,
if you were to kill her, you would
kill her child as well. So that's the
reason to avert it even if for a
while. Even to the extent of the one
example where a lady comes and she confesses
and she's pregnant and then the prophet alaihis
salam postpones it until she gives birth then
she comes back
because she's coming back voluntarily. Right? He sent
her away. She's coming back and saying, apply
the HUD on me.
You with me? Mhmm. And then he sends
her away again, and he says going breastfeed.
Right? 2 years.
Then she comes back again. Yes. I know.
Just think about that.
It's 2 years later. You have kids. Yeah.
Right? But she comes back. Why?
Because she is
sincerely repentant.
You know, the the this this,
is a case a case of rape action
in the time of Rasulullah.
He said this. Once raped
a lady. The the
microphone? Yeah.
Once raped a lady.
So, obviously, I mean,
consensual is bad, super bad, but the rape
is even worse. Mhmm.
And then what happens is,
some other Sahaba,
like, she obviously somehow
gets away after, you know, after the thing.
Some other Sahaba come in and they get
a few guys, and then she identifies
who the rapist was, but she identifies the
wrong person.
Right?
So
is gonna exact
the had the penalty upon that person.
But then the actual perpetrator of the crime,
he was in the crowd. Because remember it's
an exemplary punishment, so people are he was
in the crowd.
And
he then stopped him and said that it
was him.
And then had
the
had been applied to the correct person.
Right? Interesting. So he was he was put
to death.
But then
like, said that he made such
a that it would suffice for all of
Midian. Yes. I know. I can't remember the
exact words of the hadith, but it something
to that effect.
So there's,
okay.
I can't remember if it's for the all
of Madina or for No. Just for what
extent? All of Madina. All of Madina.
But, I mean so so
what Rasulullah
is telling you them in certain cases that
you have to just do what Allah Subhanahu
wa ta'ala has told to
do. But Rasulullah Sallallahu wa ta'ala was with
access to knowledge that's like he has access
to inspiration. He's telling us that this Tawba
suffice would suffice to everybody. No.
So,
Omar doesn't In others, can you imagine
the status in the akhira Yeah. As a
result of such a toba.
Exactly.
So it kind of puts things into perspective
and we also have to be in mind
that our reality and the reality of the
Sahaba were very, very different realities. No. I
don't think it was awesome. In in the
sense of, like,
in the sense of how we believe in
the Akhira compared to how they believed in
Akhira being in the company of the prophet
Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wa sallam. No. I think
it's very possible, and and we mustn't discount
this, that somebody
can do something like this now, and they
can commit zina
and
be sincerely
sincerely repentant.
Yes. And and and and the reality for
them is is a difficult one because you
might find somebody that becomes repentant to that
point, and he would like the hat to
be implemented upon him.
But he doesn't have it. But he can't.
There's no option for him to do so.
So, actually, he's he's reality now is he
has to live with it.
He has to live with the fact that,
look here, if I were living in a
state where there was Sharia,
I would be put to death. Mhmm.
But I think the only real,
beneficial outcome for that person now
is that that must just fuel the.
No. That must fuel the constant turning back
to Allah and,
you know,
guide them to live better lives. No. You
can't you can't you can't you you
you you you must be repentant, and part
of being repented is having regret. No. But
you can't cause that to hold you back.
No. If you cause that to hold you
back from doing other good in future No.
Then actually that's like a spiritual defect. Definitely.
And this is a very very important point
because
remember,
say somebody,
falls prey to to Shaitan misleading the person
and this, that, and the other and there's
obviously a buildup of it and end up
perpetrating this thing. Right?
And they commit the sin.
Now what happens is that
in the time of the Sahaba
they are coming forward. Why are they coming
forward? Why are they coming to confess?
Because if you're truly remorseful
and you want to draw closer to Allah
Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala and you acknowledge you've broken
his law, then you want to know how
do I fix this by my Allah? How
do I rectify my
now in this dunya?
And they come forward. And the example you
mentioned in this the Rasulhan sends the lady
back and she comes forward again because that
overwhelming concern of my
and how if I broke the law of
Allah, what does the law of Allah say
now? Who is remember there's no circumstance
outside of the law of Allah Subhanahu Wa
Ta'ala in any in any circumstance.
Is a law of Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala
will apply. So whether before you commit the
sin, whether you after after you commit the
sin, again, whichever degree the sin is, there's
still what Allah
says is the next step now in this
particular space. So they have that where they
go back and they say apply the had
because this is now, you know, the the
right thing to do from here. And this
is when people want to rectify. And what
is mentioning here, I think is extremely important
because for anybody who
has committed this particular sin, it's not that,
you know so where to from here? Do
I just, you know, hang around? Do I
do I then just and again for just
to say it because,
you know, do I just go and kill
myself? Or do I just what is you
know, they could get to that point where
they're so sincerely bit after. You know, I
had many, like,
or at least was something that I would
hear quite often growing up. Mhmm. That that,
you know, youth would actually, like, say,
I mean, I really did so much wrong,
and I'm already going to Jain. Yeah. Not
different. So I thought, well, are you going
to Jain. Not used to saying, still say.
I'm already going to Jain. I'm so let
me just enjoy my life.
Yeah. Actually, I'm not too long ago. I
had somebody said it again. But I mean,
that idea of I'm already going to jail.
Are you already going to jail?
Yeah.
Your idea of deen is is is is
really bad, man.
Subhanallah. Because all that it takes to not
be going to Jainham anymore is to Allah.
Be sincere,
have a sincere repentant heart and ask Allah
to forgive you. Yeah.
Rasulullah
tells the ummah that you know we're all
longing for yi shafa'i's intercession at the piyama.
Allah grant us his intercession. Mhmm. And he
said
in a narration that my intercession
is for those
who commit these major sins, those who commit
major sins of my ummah.
I mean, that that sums it up for
you. Yeah. If you're thinking, like, you know,
you committed the ultimate sin,
there's no hope for you. Allah speaks about
these people. Right? He describes them what's the
description that comes before that? The muttaqeen, isn't
it? No. Yes. Yeah. That is a beautiful
point. So it's the muttaqeen.
Right? Who are they? They are those who
when they commit zina
when they commit zina, fakhisha,
is zina, and things related to it. Yeah.
They remember Allah.
Yeah. And
then?
They remember Allah, and it leads them to
turn to Allah in
repentance.
And who else can they turn to accept
Allah?
But
they don't
keep that. They stop what they are doing.
They don't persist
while they know that it's wrong. You know,
once they become acutely aware of the fact
that, okay, this was haram, I did this.
Now,
now you must be awake. No. Right? And
that's the description of the muttaqeen.
So if Allah describes them as the Muttaqeen,
how can you not have hope? No. No.
SubhanAllah. How can we not have hope? We're
not single anybody. Yeah, Definitely, man. I think
the mercy You know the verse always stands
out to me. Yeah. Oh, yes. In this
one.
And those who they do not call upon
anyone with Allah as a god.
And they do not
kill any soul that Allah has
sanctified
except for a just reason to do so.
I don't get madder. Yeah.
Right?
And they don't come at zina.
Right?
That's what Allah subhanahu is praising as the,
as the people of Taqwa. And then Allah
subhanahu says,
whoever does that,
he will be,
he will meet like a punishment.
His punishment will be multiplied
for him on the
day
of
Tiamat.
And he will remain in that punishment forever
in disgrace. Yeah.
But then Allah says That's his people who
let me just point it out again. That's
his people who committed shirk,
zina, and murder. Mhmm. Right? And then what
does Allah say about
him? Except
whom so ever turns back to
Allah. And he believes.
And he does
righteous deeds.
He does he acts righteously.
For those Allah
will replace
the bad deeds with good deeds.
And
Allah
is all forgiving,
the most merciful.
When we started this podcast and we started
with, you know,
and the punishment into it, I was Yeah.
We were supposed to be in the washbas.
No. No. But it's good. No. But wait.
You must come. Just leave
the.
Like, sleep tonight. Yeah. Yeah. Right? So I'm
I'm delighted. So it's important that that came
out. But okay. So there's a question related
to the had again to bring us back
into perspective.
Brother Umayr Ardenza is asking if after the
had Umayr.
Akhira?
Yes. Yeah. If the person is Absolutely. That's
the ultimate form of Tawba.
Right? There's there's, like, no doubt in that
in that Tawba. The prophet to ask some
But it's a time when we're not.
There's a what? There's a time when not.
If the person is caught.
Oops. Wait. Yes. If a person is caught,
and then had this metered upon them Right.
Unwillingly, They're not recruited in the least. Okay.
They don't have to. No remorse. No regret.
They're not they're actually not meeting the requirements
of toba, basically.
Okay. That's that's an interesting I never thought
about that one, actually.
So so so so so there's a case,
like,
you know,
for example, if you have a or something.
Yes. Right? Mhmm.
If you have, like, a or something like
that. And then
somebody will, like, fames Islam.
But every time he's caught,
and then he will, like, you know, say
shahada or whatever so that he can avert
anything.
So Okay. So that's fine.
We put that in one category, and the
other category is the person who is truly
repentant.
No. No. Yeah. I love you. That is
like a guaranteed forgiveness, basically, because,
you are doing exactly what Allah Subhanahu Wa
Ta'ala has declared as the
penitence
for that crime. No. Right? And the reason
for that being the penitence is to avert
from you
the punishment of the after.
And you can only then imagine
what the punishment is
in the year after. Yeah. Being one of
the most,
one of the biggest I mean,
Yeah. It was the biggest of, what do
they call it? Enormities.
Yeah.
Call it the 7 deadly sins, type of
thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And you see, the
verses quoted
now
at, you know, at the really gives us
we're talking about stuck too early and framework.
It really gives us a framework for
for our existence, man. That look here and
and it's beautiful that you also mentioned those
verses about
the and then Allah is saying that when
they commit a indecency, when they wrong themselves,
or when they commit, Because it's inevitability
that people make a mistake.
And again, the degree of the mistake obviously
is, you know, that's why we're talking about
Nothing, Luca,
everybody needs to strive to not No. A
100% 100% and that's what I'm saying from
a different degree in general and to be
honest, we oh, subhanallah, we
in a society and working with youth, we
can yeah. I can I can tell you
this is a fact
that,
your
and and and things are admittedly being perpetrated
by the youth one after? They're coming into
session saying, I'm I have this problem, and
I have that problem, and I'm doing this
over and over and, you know, and,
yeah, at a time with the with the
with the youth in need and our ummah
need roots back to Allah, man. They need
a root back to feeling like,
like you you mentioned earlier the comment of
I'm already going to Jain Am. Right? Like
that perspective, we need to give you a
root to show you that that that's that's
not even the conclusion. If you are alive,
if you're on this dunya, if you're breathing
your body, if you Allah's given you another
day, then that can never be the conclusion.
Yeah. Because they they need to and here
in Surah Alqaar Allah gives you that framework
that Taaba turn to Allah in repentance
and then if you sincerely turn to Allah
in repentance then follow that up with doing
good.
Like malaisha said earlier
change it now you must not realize and
now you need to so again I do
know that, yes sweet there is that kabayir
and then there is you know smaller sins
and slip ups and those are different, very
different, and we must categorize it. But we're
living in a society and in a time
where
major sins is we we people are desensitized
to it and committing over and over these.
Yeah. And that's why we must actually get
back to our Surah so that they can
hear the gravity in the sight of Allah.
Yeah. I mean Of
what you know, they might think about considerably.
The next the next one the next verse,
Excuse me.
The
fornicator.
No one
he will not marry anyone, except
Zaniathan, a fornicatress.
Thank you.
Oh, mushrikatan
or an idolatress.
Hajeem.
Wazaniatuh
and a fornicatress
will not marry her,
except a fornicator,
or an
idolater.
And that has been made haram
upon the believers.
Marriage marriage to
a Zani
or Zania. I think people mustn't get confused.
Right? Yeah. Yeah. Of course. This was the
explanation.
This doesn't mean
if you committed, you must go look for
somebody else that committed to get married
to. That's what they're saying at all. Yeah.
It's it's it's more a Well, if she
had like to just leave the first day
to simmer so little
but that's that's the point. No.
Your first explanation can't be the watered down
version for me. It's like, I want I
want the person to hear it like I
heard it when he translated it in class.
What what did Allah choose you must hear?
What words must fall upon your ears? It's
shocking in nature. Yeah. So you'll let it
shock.
And then the Sahaba, when they hear these
verses, they to
find out what is what does this mean?
Well, still the the the actual meaning that
though it's saying that you don't have to
go see. I'm not saying the verse is
not saying you go seek that out, but
there is meaning to the verse that is
established, and that is the fact that it's
a norm.
If you find yourself engaging in certain types
of activity, you're gonna find yourself spending your
time with people that engage in those types
of activity.
And,
you know, that's where you're gonna end up.
Yeah. So it's not actually instructional
per se. It is descriptional.
Right?
And,
what what is important here is that if
you look at the way youth operated
back in my youth days. Right? I don't
think I I wanna say it like that
because I don't know how the youngsters operate
any longer.
But, look here,
it was a matter of
the cool guys wanted to go and do
their thing because that is part of being
cool.
And,
they had this idea that they will eventually
come right,
And then they'll get married to a Mu'alima
or a Hafizah or somebody that is going
to be a trophy wife, you know, that
that, you know, is like pure and innocent
and something like that. That that was a
big notion back in the day, like a
common thread. So I don't know if it's
still like that. That definitely still exists. But,
like, this verse is addressing that Yeah. Back
for me, man. Like, if you are a
fornicator,
understand
that what you are, you're likely going to
be with that person also.
Right? This is like a a prediction. So
you choose your outcome in life, man. What
type of life do you want? Catch your
nonsense now,
and you basically going to see it coming
back to you again and again and again
and again. Yeah. No. It's still But again,
you know,
just Yeah. Go.
If people find themselves You just asked permission
now. Like If people, like, if people
do find themselves in a situation, okay, husband
and wife, we both have
a. Again, it doesn't mean
that the door for, though, was a.
Those I mean, you can be a repenting
couple.
Mhmm.
And that's a beautiful thing also.
It it is important to
recognize the gravity of the sin. Because when
you recognize the gravity of the sin, then
that drives you
to to turn back to Allah. Mhmm. And
it and it you know, it doesn't leave
you the moment you you make toma. Mhmm.
You feel the need when you realize the
gravitate to make toma for it again and
again and again. Even though you believe every
time you know it, all accept my toba.
But No. But the strength of that thing
and and, you know,
sometimes a bad deed can take you closer
to him.
Yep. And sometimes a good deed can take
you away from him. Yep.
So so so so I I'm just, you
know, I'm
I don't want to take away from the
gravity and the enormity of the sin. Mhmm.
But
I don't want to create despondency in people.
Yeah. I heard something the other day. I'm
trying to think of it. I did but
there's, like, a But you sound misapologetic.
This is exactly the system of the Quran.
Yeah. It's not apologetic.
It's it's factual. It is balanced. No. I
mean The Quran is the Quran is balanced,
but the Quran is holistic also. Yeah. What
we're doing is now we're taking a selection
of the body. Yes. Yes. I was gonna
and just the next thing that I was
gonna say, the thing is we zoom zooming
into one verse at a time now as
we go along, which is fine also Yeah.
Because the Surah takes you on a journey.
You must look at it as a whole.
Yeah. Right? But the likelihood of us actually
getting through the whole zone is not really
That's why I said earlier, everyone must go
in journey and go, you know Yeah. Try
and go attend the class. You know this
going on a in shot What people what
people have what people get is they get
the religious anxiety.
Yes. So they have a sincere
they have a sincere desire to be religious
at a certain point. Yeah. But in it's
so much anxiety
around past and around how and around, you
know. I was I was gonna say now
I heard something. I'm trying to think we
are editing, but now in this last couple
of days away,
I think it may have been one of
the the pictures at the masjid or something.
But anyway but basically, we a good deed,
right a good deed can be the cause
of your destruction
and a bad deed can be the cause
of your kurb your closeness to Allah
We, you know, one has committed this in
your context now. I know.
But I'm now I'm I'm expanding on it.
Sorry. You just spoke about the You
heard it and I was thinking about this.
I'm gonna explain it now. I mean, so
basically what I was saying is that sometimes
you come at a good deed. Alright? You
You only forgot the bad deed. Sometimes you
commit sometimes you commit a good deed. So
you weren't even listening properly? I wasn't listening
to you properly. You know? But anyway, so
this good deal causes okay. I'm better than
this one. I, you know, this that and
other which are massive. He's not good.
And even if he's still got on in
me, it's alright. It's not.
But, anyway, so I was thinking about a
lot because a lot of the time you
can do something good or you feel so
good about your routine that you're now in
and you're up early and you're doing a
thing and you're making a card and you
maybe this and the other. And whatever these
good deeds are or maybe one good deed
or a few good deeds or, you know,
a couple of good days that could that
cause you to maybe feel ambittered than this
one. And that's it. That's it. That could
be the point of your destruction. I mean,
what causes you to look down on others
what causes you to whereas one person has,
you know,
this this bad deed and the remorse
fuels him so much that they
so to Allah in a way that you
would have never done it had you not
slipped. Absolutely. You know, it's like it's like
when you when you lose something,
and then you you're like, like, they would
say,
that,
so now you you have this thing and
you don't realize its value till it's lost.
Now you slip from the path and you
realize and you and then you call to
Allah in such a way that it even
teaches you how to call to Allah
just generally, man, it allows you to talk
to Allah in a way that you you
know like, we did a program with you
in the Masheed now a couple of months
ago.
It was one of the it was 5th
Avenue Masheed,
and then,
we had the kids over and whatever it
may be. Right? And one of the things
we do is we actually explain to them,
look here, what is Duayan? How do you
call to Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala? Right?
And,
one of the one of the one of
the,
facilitators of the program,
they said that, okay, man.
If I must tell you about,
all I'm gonna tell you is
the only time I felt close to Allah
was when I just spoke to Allah like
he was my peace friend that I came
to for help.
Like, I didn't
and I didn't go sit to the bookie,
and I just I just lifted my hands
up and I said,
you Allah, I don't know what to do.
I didn't even know what to say to
you. I didn't and he was talking in
English and he was using a couple couple
of slang words in between, and he was
just like, hello. You know, I'm stuck. I
don't know. I
and he went on and he went on
and he inspired the rest of those youth
that, you know, and then and
then obviously when I
say you're gonna pray for them, when you're
done,
everybody can take time and just call to
Allah and talk to Allah and Nice. You
know. Just talk to Allah like you're going
to someone for help. What you're gonna say?
What you're gonna you know. And, and I
think that that type of when you recall
those sins Mhmm. You're gonna recall that that
you're like, you said it's gonna come back
up and then you tell Allah how much
you regret doing it and you tell Allah
that you don't wanna go back to it
and Allah, there's one kid who's even saying,
allah, I I I know I committed this
and I'm scared, I know I'm gonna go
back to it. I already know that I'm
gonna go back to it. I know every
time I come into that space, I fall
I I I know it's coming, and I
can't go into that out to help,
you know. And,
that was, like, a really inspiring for me.
How was this youngster?
He was about 15 years old. 15, 16.
I'm guessing nobody looked at age. Yeah. But,
but again, man, so, you know, turning to
Allah, talking to Allah, and using this as
a platform to to draw closer to Allah's
one. And there's a verse now. I was
thinking about it the other day that,
now we obviously spoke about
and this and that, whatever.
So we fast. Right? And our fasting, predominantly,
you've probably heard it, the Ramadan already. Right?
So why do you fast?
How do we know it's compulsory? Allah says
in the Quran.
So fasting has been prescribed upon you. Alright.
So now as far as you have to
fast. Right, if you and all of meet
the requirements, then you have to fast,
right.
So that same word that made fasting compulsory
upon you and I,
Compulsory upon you and I. We don't have
a choice. Alright?
Allah uses that same word for himself in
the Quran, and he makes something compulsory upon
himself. He he prescribes this for himself.
And
Allah is it says he'll be showing you
just like I made that further upon you
and that's how you're gonna I've made
it, you know, I've obtained upon myself, which
Allah doesn't have to do. And he tells
you that I've made it compulsory upon myself.
Allah says that I've made mercy,
being merciful.
I've it's like I've made it compulsory upon
myself.
And that's the Allah you turn to when
you're making dua. That's the Allah that you,
you know, you raise your hands and you
speak to in the best way that you
possibly can.
Yes, alham. Listen here.
2 verses.
The end of that verse is
and that is
haram
for the believers.
What is haram for the believers?
Zina.
Zina is haram for the believers.
And
for the believer,
the other manner of this
particular verse is that,
the word Zena
sorry. The word Nikah
is being used literally.
Right. So in essence you have
the fornicator,
La Yanke Hoha,
is not committing fornication
with her or
with him. You know what I mean? So
the literal the literal meaning of the word,
nikah So so That's the most
I know most listeners might not know what
the literal meaning of nikah is. Yeah. Yeah.
Could you tell me the word nikah? So
nikah in in its in its literal sense
actually means,
the act of sexual intercourse
in its literal sense.
And then we can't mean?
Yeah. And then we use it in a
technical sense. Mean contract. Yeah. To mean a
contract. Right?
But there's difference of opinion in in in
that regard as well, but be that as
it may, that's how it stands. So
the literal meaning here would mean that the
fornicator,
the person that he's engaging with
is a fornicatress
by the very nature of the act that
they are doing. You understand? So that's one
of the other,
Ma'ani of this, particular verse as well, but
it does not mean this last part again
that has been made haram for the believers.
It does not mean that
you cannot get married
to somebody who committed zina.
Mhmm. That's important.
Right? So you might think, like, it's haram
for me to get married to somebody who
committed. But now here's the question that I'm
gonna put to you guys, because people need
guidance on People get married.
Right? They have interviews.
Let's say you have a past.
What do you do about it? Or on
the other hand,
if the person you're you're speaking to has
a past, but you want to find out
about it.
So at at which point does the does
the young person leave this,
discussion?
I was gonna say earlier in I was
talking about, you know, a couple and you
both have a past and whatever it may
be. Right?
This is a very important point because
when do you talk about your past, when
then you talk about your past? Like, if
there's absolutely no reason to talk about your
past, then I'm almost gonna say I'm gonna
say I wanna say
it's gonna be Please don't say that. I
won't say it. It's gonna it's gonna more
than likely only be harmful.
Like, you know, if Allah if Allah covered
something up for you
then at only
in a very dire need or in a
circumstance where you absolutely have to, then you
bring it up. It should actually be a
constant to all of us that, you know,
Allah oh, Allah, recover up our shortcomings and
our faults, man. And when Allah does that
for you, alright, when Allah does that for
you, he allows you and he constantly gives
you a chance to be a better version
of yourself. So it's a tough one because,
you know, coming into the context that you're
talking about now, that's one. Manana, I went
to you. What do you have to say?
You can No. I was thinking about something
else.
No. But first,
first onto this one. So this young young
couple, they they interviewing each other now for
Nikah purposes.
So let's say in the one scenario, the
guy has a past. Right?
Does he disclose that to the girl
when she asks him,
do you have a past?
Do you understand?
Look. I mean, if
I didn't check the rulings around this,
but,
I didn't check the rulings around. I don't
think if you ask that, hey, click online.
Particularly when it comes to marriage, actually. Yeah.
But
but I think you're I think we must
be a little bit more clear here, man.
If you're being asked, are you a virgin
or you're not a virgin.
Alright. That's one thing.
Just being asked about your past,
you it's Yeah. You know, it's more than
I've got
okay. 19 girlfriends. 1 in the say
that's not what we're talking about here. 19?
No. I'm not saying
that
if you're being asked because again, you wanna
get mad. And we're coming more and more
to the you have to ask.
More than likely, you
I I I don't believe it's unacceptable for
somebody to ask. Is your daughter a virgin?
Is she not or ask you ask to
ask that. SubhanAllah, we're actually coming even closer
to the time we father ask another father,
is your daughter a virgin? Yeah.
Yes.
That's
Nothing you have to get back to that
man. Unless you have the answer. Yes. That's
a heavy one. No. I think from a
from
we definitely need to get back to the
to the people about it. But what I
am, what we are talking about here is
the question the questions are gonna come up
must come up. We're living in a time.
Look here. Let's be real. That's a tough
one for
me.
You're always a girl. It's a tough one
for me because, generally, right, I must go
look this one up. Well, you're always a
girl. But generally yo. That's don't yo. Look.
You wanna come up? No. I'm telling you.
This is this is what the we we
work with you. But before you get there
before you get there, that's another discussion.
The thing is, like,
normally, under normal circumstance and under every circumstance
that I can think of, you're not supposed
to disclose
your fault
at
all. The prophet
spoke of,
a person who does that,
and and what a heinous crime it is
to do to ever expose yourself. Right? So
that's clear.
There's no confession in Islam except to Allah.
Right? That's crystal clear.
My question is,
if you are asked directly by the girl
that you that you are interested in, is
that an occasion that you can
that you can
sort of pin the truth
or not?
And, yeah, that's a that's a tough one.
We're gonna leave that to to answer as
well. I'm sorry. Academy. I think I'm recalling
a case in Platform.
I'm recording a case in in terms of,
where
Ubukedomian
for that.
But I don't know if the man was
asked
Or if he was just coming out of
his own, had Matin's sons and stuff.
But I don't want to go out in
there.
Yeah.
Look again then, just well, Molay said he's
doing some some
checking up stuff because because he is they
were gonna leave it like that. He's probably
not gonna sleep tonight or so. But,
but,
let's just quickly contextualize
another thing very quickly. If you are already
married
and, you know, you watch this podcast, you
don't need to go sit tonight No. I
think to watch other podcast. If people if
people are already married,
my advice to them is is no fight
in speaking to a true boss. Definitely. There's
no benefit.
Absolutely, man. And and remember the words of
Rasool Islam.
That the one who makes it through Tawba
for him. Okay. Okay. He has answered. As
if he
has never committed the sins. Got the answer.
Got the answer. Go for it. On seekers
guidance dot
org. Plug.
Did you answer the question? No. I didn't
answer the question. I did. I think I
might have also, but this isn't my answer.
Did they pay for the promotions that you
scold me out about? Do I need to
confess
my to my excellent suitor?
Right?
I'll read the question to you also because
it's a reality. Right? I did with 3
different men. Yeah. I regret.
Yeah. This is why I regret my actions
and I am remorseful, guilty, tainted,
used, and damaged. I feel worthless. I've kept
the secret hidden from my family because I
don't want them hurt.
I have an excellent prospect for marriage and
I don't know if I should tell him
I'm not a virgin.
Does he need to know? If I don't
tell my future partner, does that mean I'm
committing another sin by lying?
I don't want to start a marriage based
on a lie as of today. It's been
almost 1 year since I did Zina, and
I have no intention of of doing it
ever again. Now that sounds remorseful to me.
What is the Islamic perspective?
You must withhold your secret from him even
after marriage.
Due to what the prophet
said in the hadith narrated by Bukhari and
Muslim,
this is not starting
marriage based on Allah, it is starting marriage
based on not divulging that which Allah hates
to be divulged.
Abu
Huraira
reports that the messenger of Allah, so Allah
bless him and give him peace, said
all my community will be
and tell something that they did such and
such
while Allah had concealed it for them. They
slept undercover of Allah and they rent asunder,
Allah's covering from themselves in the morning. Ucharean
Muslim. Yeah. Yeah.
So
Yeah.
Yeah. But
there's another aspect. Right?
The person making the inquiry.
Okay.
He's he's the. Right? Okay. Whoever it is,
the person making the inquiry, the other side,
they have the right to make the inquiry,
and they have the right to
accept testimonies I think anybody goes, Lucas,
you know
No. No. You know, I really love your
thoughts and marriage. Is she your version? I
don't think anybody does. No.
No. But but they ask one another.
The boy and the girl ask one another.
Absolutely. It's definitely happening. Yes. They ask one
another. And and I think they should So
when I said advice, I don't think the
2 fathers are gonna ask one another that
because they both have, you know, I don't
know. But, the the the the potential husband
and wife are asking one another that question.
Are you a virgin today? You have 6
before. And is it okay to ask a
question? It's a 100% okay to ask the
question. Yeah.
But now you already know the hokam is
that no matter what if they ask you
the question,
you're not supposed to expose your sin. You're
not supposed to expose your sin. Okay.
But the the person asking can take testimonies
from other people. Your past will come up
if you have a bad past, that type
of thing. And there's a responsibility
that people have, man. Like,
if you know that this boy they're asking
you about, he's, like, in the clubs at
night and he comes home at 3 in
the morning, and he's drunk, and he smells
of liquor,
and you have an obligation to,
is one of the few cases where you
have an obligation actually to say this is
what I know of him. Yeah. And that's
very different. K. If you being asked regarding
your sin,
then you're following that hadith that you mentioned
now if you don't,
you know, expose it. However, if someone is
asking you regarding marriage and you know
without a doubt
of x, y, and zed that this person
does again, not speculation, not uttered by so
and so, like, you know, certainly
this is, you know, what what I know
of this individual, then you have to you
have to share that. Brother Adil Slami asked,
does that imply that asking the question is
not allowed? It may,
it may, it actually may imply that because
if it's not, it's like, you know, when
when Nabi Musa alaihi sallam asked to see
Allah,
is it that example?
Is it that example I'm thinking of?
And
it must be permissible to ask that question.
Yes. It is that example. But you see
you see, the only thing there is, it's
a I know. Yeah. But yeah. So okay.
Let's leave the example because I'm gonna get
lost in it, but the point is The
responsible thing to do is to say, look
here, we check the masala and we come
back. Yeah. Yeah. Sure.
But come and check it now. So I
check it now, Alvin? Yeah. Check it now.
And in the meantime,
yeah, just for, our viewers now that's
seeing pick their phones up, they're not typing
on Google.
Can I You too? You can do it
one. So they're actually insulting sources and stuff
on their phones there. Now it's just a
simple thing people say now I checked it
there. What does it mean now I typed
in Google? Yeah. No. You asked. No. No.
And then I got this answer and I
got that answer. No. I did go to
seek his guidance dot org, but that was
deliberate. I Yeah. No. I knew it because,
obviously, you know, there's reliable platform where there
is,
they are I don't think you want screen.
I want screen. Give it to What are
you doing? It's here with Now I'm showing
it like we have books on the phone,
man. Oh, yeah. Let me show them.
BDS.
Can you see the screen?
It just looks like a bright white thing.
Okay. Anyway You can see it's not Google.
No. No. It's it's an important thing.
They call it somebody told me the other
day, no. I consulted,
Yolana.
So I said, what do you mean Yolana?
So he said, that's YouTube.
So Google, find a video, and then you
know this that other,
brother, message academy or contact.
Yeah. Yeah. Consult the MGC. Yeah. Or email
the department, put in the department's email address,
and get your answers from a reliable source.
So go to your email, speak to Aileen.
K. I'm gonna read I don't know if
this is exactly going to answer the question,
but I'm going to read the answer,
because I think it's related.
I was in a relationship with a man,
so we decided to marry. Now he and
his family are asking around about me to
expose mistakes that I committed in my teenage
years. He keeps questioning my reputation and asks
to know exactly what I did in the
past.
What shall I do now that my past
is coming back to haunt me?
I'm sorry to hear that your husband is
delving into your past in this way. It
is not permissible for him to investigate your
past nor to ask you about it nor
for you to tell
nor for you to to tell him.
Jameen.
Okay.
And then the same the same evidence is
cited,
essentially.
At Gary's aunt, there's more also about forgiveness
and so forth, but the the essence of
the answer is, in that. Yeah.
So, yeah, you're not actually allowed to ask.
You're not actually allowed to ask.
I'm sure you can ask general questions like,
you know, did you live a good childhood?
What was your kid? It's Ajay. You said
your must be at that level. Right?
You must yo. I'm nervous now? Yeah. 100%.
When is the video are you smiling?
And they wouldn't have known mister Cupid. Yeah.
Subhanallah.
Look at look at this is like
A lot of my nieces a lot of
my nieces are now at the age we
some of them are just, some of them
become.
Now amongst all the uncles, we're talking about,
you know, we're gonna find him a husband,
we're gonna interrogate him like this and that,
and we'll do this and do that. And
now you're thinking nothing. You want what do
you do? You can ask him, like, okay.
Do you take drugs?
Uh-huh.
Like, if there's something that will have a
bearing on the future, man. Yes.
Absolutely.
Absolutely. That's very interesting because
how can you tell me that an addiction
to
sex is not gonna also have a Nothing
gonna be hello, Outlook. Okay. Do you do
you do you guys know that some people
ask for AIDS test?
Yeah. 100%. Do you know that? Yes. Definitely.
Can you ask for AIDS test, Harry? I've
heard. I've heard. I've heard.
I've heard. They sent a girl to the
doctor to check and verify
that she's a virgin.
What?
They sent her,
and she had to go for a test.
For real? Talked to her to sign that
she's a virgin. 100% real case. I don't
even think that's illegal.
Well, he did it.
Is is that legal?
Doesn't sound legal to me. Like, you know,
you okay. They're gonna send you to a
doctor and Any lawyers watching? The doctor can
please verify that you are virgin.
Yeah? A real case? A real case? That's
the type of thing I would Google.
You can Google that. Yeah. Is it legal?
So African law, you can Google. No problem.
Okay. Sharia law, then Google it. So this
is an interesting,
revelation, actually. I don't think we've considered it
because by the time we really thought about
this, we were all long time married. So
it wasn't like a problem that we needed
to I don't know. I'm assuming. It's real,
and I'm now if I go that step,
when I was script earlier where I went.
But I'm telling you, I met someone the
other day that they had to convince me
they told me that lady you spoke to
was a man.
That lady you spoke to now was a
man.
Right? That Muslim lady spoke to her was
a man. And I was like, no, you're
lying to me. Like,
900%.
And then
so now my question is, is it okay
then for me? So is it
That person said, yeah, I used to be.
So the Yeah. What's the person The reality
is Reality is that it wasn't, man?
So they performed
operation. They performed operation
and the the hormones and stuff like that.
Okay? Completely. I thought I was talking to
a lady. Okay. But then now
he is living
like a lady. Yes. Looking No. You can't
do that. Yeah. I know. But now, Marcelin,
I'm telling you, you don't know. Right? You
don't know. And now the question is I'm
talking about Islamically,
you can't do that. Yes. I know. He
can do he can do he can do
whatever that he wants. Yes. Right? Obviously, Islamically
do that. According to the rules of Islam
Yes. A 100%. I must be clear because,
you know Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay. I'm not
saying, you know, humans can do whatever humans
want to do under the laws of Islam.
No. Islamically, this person goes in, makes the
mistake or does the sin
of swapping the gender. Right? Now what happens
is, my but my question is come from
the reality. You're asking is it okay if
we ask this, is it okay to send
person to a doctor to check if they're
a virgin or not? I'm saying it's actually
at the point where parents want to know,
can I ask if you were always a
girl?
Or if you're not only a girl?
Because, I mean, if I if I met
somebody I don't think that's even even though
you're telling me about that case,
I don't think we at that point where
people should be asking questions like that right
now. I think that's just a,
a free case.
And and and I'm into that I know
I know a few a few
Usually there's like some, like, telltale signs that
you can see something is not kosher.
Yeah. They got because this is this is
Transvesta
2.0.
This is full conversion. I know. I know.
But But look again, you could say, okay,
there's something that's maybe a I I'm I'm
assuming. So then can I ask?
So I look like your voice sound a
bit thicker than mine. Yeah. No. But of
course, you can in that instead of voice
sounds particular than yours, I would. No. Mine
is my voice is
but do you understand? No. Figuring it. Figuring
it. Avan's voice. No. It's Yes. I do.
But again, you know, is it just that
that you have a sore throat of tongues
is asking?
But the question is, what questions can we
ask? So you open that gate now. Yeah.
Yeah. What questions do we ask? Do we
ask you a virgin? Do we ask you
a virgin? Do we ask you a virgin?
Do we ask you a virgin? Do we
ask you a virgin? Do we ask you
a virgin? Do we ask you a pass?
Do we ask her for the pass? Do
we ask her for the pass? Yeah. Now
the question becomes, and that we're living in
that time, and I'm telling you this is
the sin being committed where people are changing.
And
I think the sin is still fairly,
I mean, it it is a sin that's
picking up, especially in more
first world, if you
want, places.
But I still feel really, I think, over
here.
Inshallah.
I'm gonna leave that question to the department.
Yeah.
Can you ask the question at all? No.
Obviously, that's not that's not that's not pertaining
to past.
Mhmm. Pertaining to It isn't. Yeah. You're actually
asking the person.
And, I mean, normally, that's the only question
that you ask when you have a doubt.
Yeah. But, it's it's a question that pertains
to the now. No. It absolutely does. And,
yeah, most of the there would be perpetuating
a sin of immigrating the opposite gender. That's
a sin in and of itself. Exactly. And
it affects you, like, a 100% because you
are,
going into a marriage. You can ask that
question.
Yeah. Essentially. And then we send him to
a doctor to test. Okay. I think they
might find you like, if it's a normal
person, they might find you, like, pretty weird
for asking.
Guys, we've been on for
1 hour 23 minutes, and we've covered
3 ayaat. Alhamdulillah.
It's the nature of what we do.
You know what? I was We can't actually
go on because the next verse opens up
a whole other can of worms. We're gonna
go back to the fatwa reward with
next
So, What are you saying?
Now I was just thinking, I mean, I
I actually had a class in sort of
new ones.
Mhmm. But I think, like, you know, I
think we did, like, maybe
few words of every week.
I can imagine. I thought, like, you know,
the outcome, and the next day we just
chose the different Surab. We didn't get, like,
too far because every single word.
Either there's a law or there's a So
so, Marlene, let me let me share a
tip with you. Right? You must have that.
You must have that. Mhmm. But you must
also have
where you're just working through these people, man.
Yeah. So that's what I'm trying to do
now at the Masjid Yes. Yes. For every
night in Tarawee, where I'm not going into
the level of detail that we are here,
not by a long shot. Masjid, that's something
and closer. I mean, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No.
Absolutely. But I mean, technically, it's Ramadan. It's
now the ideal time to get into those
type of Yeah. You know. But what I
really wanted to do, and and I'm I'm
only mentioning this because I think it helps
when people understand your vision, man. Right? And
perhaps you can also latch onto it because
I believe it was a vision of
of.
Not I believe, it it was a vision
of his. Right? That we rekindle,
right, the gatherings of,
Quran
in every sense of its meaning. Right? But
primarily in the sense of people hearing the
the the words of Allah and what it
means.
So
if we give like we do here now,
right,
that's a lot of explanation, but there's a
lot of otherhood is also going with it,
like your own perspectives and this and that
and the other. And, hopefully, we do a
good job at sifting through it.
But when you just give people a chance
to connect with,
the word, Valla, like,
not not just translation,
no, but, like, 5 verses
per night, and that's in about a
10 to 15 minute slot. So you can
imagine the pace. So you have to translate
the section Go ahead. Then discuss certain issues.
Commentary.
Yes. But, I mean, we we we dealt
with the essence of the stuff that we're
speaking about, man. Mhmm. You can't leave that
stuff out. Yeah. So the essence is there.
But what you're also adding to it is
like, so you
get to hear a lot of what Allah
says and how the Quran
sounds and how it works. And that's a
vision that I believe is something that's important
for us also there for ourselves.
Like, you must have your own
of the Quran personally.
You go into depth, man. You study.
Not because you're finishing a project, but because
you're just interested in the verse. Yeah. Like
you're reading even a even Ashur and,
you you know, you're really reflecting on it,
maybe reading it in.
Right? But then you must also have for
yourself,
and.
No. That is just sardan. No. Right? No.
The the point is you're just being in
tune with with Allah's kalam No. In every
way. No.
But I find that a lot of us,
myself included,
I fell into the strip of always going
into a lot of depth. No. Right? Because
you sometimes like to hear the sound of
your own voice also. You sometimes just like
to go into depth and it's interesting, this
is interesting.
If everything is
right, then you don't
progress your audience,
your your listeners,
right, especially if they're a consistent group, you
don't progress them to the next level, man.
You just keep them just there. You just
wanna see and
I see There's nothing wrong with that.
Right?
You could quote me on that. No. I
think it's a But, yeah. So that's just
my take. That's actually what I like about
even Ashur.
You don't he
he's I mean, he unpacks a verse,
like, in a very detailed manner,
but he doesn't veer from it. Like, now
we start talking about
and all of these things. But
that's because of that's because I think what
happens is people take instruction from this man
even if we're not giving instruction. Yeah. So
that when you give an instruction, then it
needs contextualization. Yes. Definitely. So I mean, that's
that's the thing. If I'm sitting in a
class, like, I recall when when I told
someone, when we're sitting in the class,
then we don't then I don't talk about
or
anything. I I might I might go and
say, look. This is how this applies.
Right? And this is how it applies to
somebody who doesn't have the opportunity for the
HUD. You must do x y zed. But
that's what But it's not gonna be But
now that's exactly what I mean and do
that for the general public also
even if it's even though it's not a
class, but treat them like students
because they are students, man. They must also
progress to the next level even as as
so that's just a a kind of a
side note. No. And, something that I thought
was it would be good for us to
aspire to Understood. In whatever way we can.
And, also, the other thing that people need
to understand is that,
the effects of the kalam of Allah subhanahu
wa ta'ala just, you know, on your heart,
man, and reading it and and and looking
at it in the Quran and reciting it.
It's important, man, because now you can just
take one discussion and, again, the Quran, you
know, Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala says regarding the
Quran that, you know,
I'm trying to think of the verse now
anyway. But basically, if you were to come
and you would No. If I see lose
me, there's 2 places you all mentioned. Surakaf
Surakaf At the India,
If the oceans
the oceans were to be ink,
for the for
whole ocean
would be
depleted. You use the whole ocean up if
it was ink to just write regarding the
kalam of Allah
So, you know, you can take a verse
and the rest of your life just, you
know, be unpacking and this and that and
this and that. But again,
and this is also, you know, in that
in that first year, that intention must go
from cover to cover through the entire Quran.
It reminds me of that that project we
did that during COVID. So we've had to
translate,
and then you must read and translate. Remember,
we had to record exact amount of times.
It was, like, difficult because what do you
leave out? What do you not leave out?
What do you explain? What do you not
explain? And then, obviously, the most, kinda important
things or not. Okay. You can't say what's
important, what's not, but there were some things,
like you say, we definitely we needed context
here, then you'd add it, and then the
rest is like, but people enjoyed going through
the entire Quran in that way. I think
we still play it in the radio, to
be honest. Someone sent me a voice that
the other day.
Am I saying
you look
in your in your gap.
Like you look pious, man.
Like you're nude. I must start by looking
biased. Maybe one day become biased like this.
You still need to You're right,
Mhmm. It looks.
Yeah. It's all the white clothing, man. I
I just agreed to you calling me beautiful.
I just realized that.
I will say our you can be accepted
also.
I think we need to That's just one
thing though. My sisters,
who is obviously now gonna be my sisters,
say that,
after I got married Who else can anything
be? You know, but I mean, like, sister
in the text of our sister's gonna go
on with you. Okay. They're saying after I
got married, and I finally got somebody else
to choose my clothing for me. I started
to look a bit more decent
than when I was choosing my clothing for
myself. So yeah.
Lovely.
Listen, for finally coming.
Now,
when when are you coming again?
You know my answer always in the group.
My answer is always, I'm ready. And then
we wait on Why do you never reply
to your messages, man? You know, you didn't
even reply. I thought he was gonna be
here. Really explained to you. I thought me
and you were gonna be In the last
in the closing segment, Manasakan guy is going
to
explain why he doesn't reply to your messages
out there. Yeah. I feel bad, everybody.
I do feel
bad. But the reality is
that there's only one timeline.
And
when we live our real life, there's moments
that pass in our real life, and simultaneously,
there are moments passing in the virtual world.
Well, did you realize this? No. I just
I've That's why I didn't I was busy
doing a secret. Don't feel bad. Okay. Okay.
Okay. Because what happens is
somehow,
like, if I wake up I don't know
I don't know if I I think I
get an abnormally lot of messages
because multiple people can be engaging with me
at the same time in one moment. So
they're popular. No. I don't. I'm not that
popular, but just happens. Maybe groups and stuff
like that. It's not even for me maybe.
Mhmm. But it's overwhelming. And so what happens
is I can't like, if if if people
engage me in the, you're gonna talk to
me now. Mhmm. Five other people are gonna
be talking to me this week. You can
ignore them. It's acceptable if you're ignoring them.
So now what happens is
and then I turn to the next person.
I can engage with him. But now what's
happening is I'm loving the moments in my
real life with real engagements,
and at the same time and I have
worked for the moments when I'm not engaging
people also.
Right? And then what happens is at the
same time, there's, like, multiple other people engaging
and expecting me to be engaging with them,
and I just can't do it. And I
came to the realization, you know what, man?
I was not gonna take me to task
for that.
I actually want to get a WhatsApp business
version.
Automated response. No. I want to yeah. Automated
response apologizing.
But you know what I do? I do
try to do it. Like, I try to
when I get some time because you know
what is happening, my kid comes and then
he was in fact, at some point, he
told me, like,
he would ask me, I'll be put away
the phone. Mhmm. Ouch.
So I said no. So, Ina? Yeah. And,
I mean, I'm still busy on the phone
a lot because a lot of our books
and things are on there. But,
I said no, man. Yeah. And the child
can't see you when you're actually sitting You
you know? Reading a book. I actually really
thought about this deeply. There was
the hadith of Rasulullah.
So this is when you turn to a
person, you must turn to them entirely.
It is impossible. I don't think he says
that you must do it. I think it's
the description of the description of what he
did, so I'm saying. It being his action
becomes a sunnah.
Right? So,
it's impossible to do that if you're having
these multiple No, absolutely. Intelligence. Can I tell
you a secret?
I know this is your explanation. You told
it to me in Turkey when we traveled.
Yeah. I just really like it. So I
wanted you to share that because it's important.
And the same thing applies to me. Kasam,
I I take I will take a long
time to get to a person's message,
and sometimes I don't get to it also.
And then what happens is other things what
happens is because I do actually want to
respond to people, but I'm busy living,
right, so I open a message,
and then I read the message. You need
an inspiring And then I can see this
must be important to that person, but now
I'm engaged in action. Maybe I'm reading it
while I'm I was gonna say while I'm
driving.
But I'm I'm reading it while I'm, you
know.
Possum like a kid. Yeah. Maybe between a
class and another class something.
And then other things
get put upon you and then I, you
know, don't get back to it immediately and
then it goes to the back burner. But
I do try occasionally,
like, periodically, actually, I'd rather say to
go through my message, see if there's anybody
I didn't respond to, apologize to them, give
them answers, see if they still require answering.
Alright, Jamil. Also just It's actually just I
I won't lie to you. If I had
to actually, you know,
if I had to allow myself
to be burdened with all of that stuff,
yeah, I would have a bad life. No.
Definitely. And just for the
for the viewers and the listeners And everybody
around me will also have a bad life.
Definitely. Just for the listeners, also the the
we're not,
pushing our brother
you know,
ways of of looking at things. No. It's
actually something that I must speak about. Yes.
That's of benefit to everyone because as I'm
listening to you now, I'm telling you that
is the reality for a lot of people.
So what does one do? And then also
what you find is the shame
and guilt now of you see and this
and you This guy, you've seen your machine.
You've seen him with the. What kind of
person are you? You're supposed to be studying
deal and No.
It's not right. Yeah. I actually did it
on, my wife's phone that to download WhatsApp
business,
and then you can have automated response. And
it creates problems now, Allah, and people have
that expectation because now he he blue ticked
me, and he didn't say anything. That's like
a thing now. No. I actually
listen to them, but the line was so
close. And, look, I was talking loud.
He was telling his friend that, you know,
like,
I know this person's online because I checked
the online. Yeah. I checked the He's not
replying to me. And so I thought to
myself, yo,
what makes you entitled to getting a response
immediately? Uh-huh. Like,
usually
the other thing is, man,
if somebody seeks permission to engage with me,
like, they phone me and I pick up
the phone Yeah. Or they knock on my
door
or I we're engaging person and I and
I turn to them,
then they have a right over me. No.
But if somebody comes to lock on my
door,
and I and I and I can't I
don't want to engage with them now, then
I don't have to respond to them. Yeah.
And after 3 Guess where that's mentioned.
Guess where that's mentioned. So
after 3 3 3 times they receive, they
can't say, I hear you the inside.
Open the door. No. The 3 times comes
from a hadith, but the principle
Seeking permission isn't saying that. So
like that, man, in with WhatsApp in it,
there's no seeking permission. Yeah. It's it's somebody
sending you a letter,
Right? Yeah. And then expecting an immediate reply.
Yeah. 900%. And I'm that's why I'm I'm
very glad again just to disclaim How did
he force him to oh, yes. We're not
forcing him to explain himself, but again,
you know, he always has this perspective of
how to look at things that we can
benefit. But don't worry. I do leave you
guys messages. But I was gonna just say
now to conclude. Pin us on top.
I'm just teasing you. But you are the
citizens of everyone's reality.
I didn't expect you to say the Sunday.
Yeah. He's a changed man. He told you
when he came in. He's a changed man.
Yeah. He's a changed man. He was here
before me. No. He used to drive
to back to Gunisbay. Oh, no. I'm staying
in my room. Welcome. Welcome. Oh, yes. Welcome
to Gamnan.
Welcome
to Gamnan again.
I saw the coffee machine, sir, as I
came past, I just, you know, it just
caught my eye. So I didn't even I
should have offered you, but I don't do
coffee at night, except at book at time.
It's easy. One cup at book at time.
That's it for the day. Yeah.
Because if I go beyond that,
I'll just leave tomorrow the whole day? Exactly.
I'm just I'm just a low key jealous.
You see that coffee episode without me, but
okay. I'm just
You know, we we just
we did several.
You see, we we only not at that
time. We only told you Say again, what
did you say? I wasn't until I wasn't
at your level at that time. Coffee. Oh.
I just I was okay. But even coffee
level. Yeah. Hold on. Hold on. Let's make
the next podcast. You take out 2 coffee
machines.
We we we settle this thing once in
for us. All of us make you a
cup and then I was about to say
be the judge I was
about to say to buy his stuff. Right?
And then he pulls this tent. No. I
don't know anymore. No. Just someone volunteered to
be the judge and then myself and Melissa
Koreas both gonna make you a cup of
coffee and we sit the listen. I'll just
drink the cups. I'm just joking. I didn't
say I'm Peter than anybody.
You just said I wasn't on your level.
Okay. If you know that means you are
guy. He's in a bad mood.
guy. He's in a bad mood.