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Warning to the Students of Knowledge against Takfeer

Sheikh Haitham warns against the growing trend among students of knowledge to pronounce takfeer (disbelief) on Muslims without an adequate knowledge of the principles of the shariah, and without an adequate appreciation of difference of opinion.

Key Issues:

– Growing trend among students of knowledge to pronounce takfeer (disbelief) on Muslims based on their own assumptions.
– Lack of appreciation of other people’s opinions when they differ from our own.
– Example of a person praying after wiping over the socks while others believe this to be invalid.
– When differences of opinion occur choosing the scenario which offers the best conclusion for all involved.
– Difference of opinion not being considered when the opinion is shaadh (very rare or odd opinion).
– History of the Takfeer movement in Egypt.
Characteristics of the Takfeer movement in Saudi Arabia.
– Example of a Hanafi praying behind a Hanbali Imam who did not renew his wudhu after eating camel meat.

Episode Transcript

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salatu salam, ala l mursaleen. Amina Mohammed

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Salam aleikum wa rahmatullah volcat.

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Today, inshallah Tada, we will

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pause a little bit. And we will be speaking about a subject.

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A few brothers yesterday, triggered that subject.

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Before inshallah we carry on

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the doors, I was sitting with a group of brothers yesterday, who are collaborating.

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And

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they said that there is a real problem among so many collaboration, and among so many practicing people

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these days, which is related to how to deal with

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matters of differences.

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And

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they were talking about one of the individuals who have certain views

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about

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some Islamic issues, and they say that

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some people

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because of his views, they believe that he committed an act of Kufa and he became Catholic.

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And as a result of that,

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everyone who is not denouncing him as a Catholic, he is becoming Catholic as well.

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And anyone who is associated to him, or not clearly or openly denouncing him as a Catholic, then he becomes Catholic as well, because it is a well established principle in Sharia that the one who does not

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make fear of the Catholic, he is a Catholic as well. The one who doesn't denounce Wko, four, for the Kaffir, he is a Catholic himself.

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And

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they said that there is a huge or a big misunderstanding among so many young brothers about this issue. And they were the brothers were blaming, yeah, I need the the people of knowledge, the students of knowledge, that God that they are not clarify this point,

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in a way that removes any kind of doubt or

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removed remove any kind of myths. Understanding

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this issue, I'm not talking about tech fear, but I'm talking about a critical issue maybe we have not mentioned it

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clearly before in one of our gurus, and I found it important to speak about it. And it is from a perspective called Allah was him

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and there wasn't, this implies this

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and hence,

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allows him means a implies B, B implies C, C implies D. So therefore, a implies C and D, okay, is a logical deduction. What does that mean?

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Let us take another example, which is maybe an easier example. And I believe that this is really a very important subject.

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Let us believe that someone doesn't believe that a person can can make wiping over the socks.

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Someone doesn't believe that wiping over the socks is allowed.

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And therefore,

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the one who believes that wiping over the socks is not allowed.

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He believes that the Salah will be invalid.

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And therefore,

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listen to this therefore,

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if a person his Salah is invalid

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and all of his Salawat or most of his Salawat are invalid. He is according to an opinion, which is the strongest opinion

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he came out of the fold of Islam

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Okay,

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And

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for sure that he has been like this doing his Salah for a long period of time and he was not an ignorant person. So, for sure this person he is committing COVID and because he's not

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an ignorant person he is Catholic.

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Now, we have reached to this conclusion that he is cafard because of what

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because of Mashallah because of masala

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on the socks,

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you've got it how dangerous is that or that is he became cafard because of what

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because of why I think over the sauce, this kind of misunderstanding is a very male male is a very problematic and is a very dangerous misunderstanding because of this lower than he is doing this and therefore, that is the consequence and then we take it one step further and that is the consequence and so on so forth.

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Another example

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a person

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got married without the permission of the body. At that time, for example, he believes that marriage without the consent of the body is okay. So, he has done that the lady has done that

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after some time

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he was doing some study and research and he found that was not an invalid that was that was not a valid opinion okay to marry without the consent of the body.

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And therefore, he had some children, the children were produced

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Okay, during an invalid marriage

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and therefore,

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they cannot take the lineage of their father

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and therefore, how do we judge him we judge them that as if they are like the children of Xena

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Okay, we do have them as if they are children of Xena.

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Another example

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you know that

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practicing this drafter Salah in congregation

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many people are doing it

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Some people believe that it is better

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and therefore the person who is doing it he is what mocked it.

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Yeah.

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And it has been stated by so many scholars in the past that the beta is worse than a kaviraj

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is worse than a major sin.

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And therefore those people who pray and make drought there are they are worse than the fornicators

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because they are moved to the rain.

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Okay. And moreover, it has been stated by Sofia and many others, that even you don't give them Salah because they are destroying the deen from within

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this phenomena

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occurred some time ago in some Arab countries.

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And they started to believe

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is a very dangerous phenomena. They started to believe that the leader of that Muslim country is a Catholic

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and the people who are working under that government.

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Yeah.

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Because they are accepting the authority of a cancer over them. Then they are kofa

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and normal people

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because they do not denounce the government

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and they do not denounce them as Kufa openly.

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They are Cofer as well.

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And the amounts who are appointed by was elected out of the Ministry of religion or religious affairs, okay, because that was out or that ministry is part of the government.

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Which is a careful government. So, therefore, there was zero the minister is a Catholic and anyone who accepts his authority is a Catholic and any amount who is appointed by that minister who is a Catholic is also adapted

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is all capital times capital.

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No, seriously, that happened. It started in Egypt in

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early 70s, late 60s, okay, early 70s they used to be known as Jama athletic field wall hedgerow.

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And after some time, they said, but how can we live within this society, we cannot pray behind the mounts who are kofod because they were appointed by the

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cabinet by the government, which is a Catholic government. So, what to do, so, they isolated themselves from the whole society and they started to establish their own massage

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and their own prayer halls.

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And, but they need to get married, they need to deal with other people they need to eat that they had they need to eat any the meat is locked up by other people, they stopped you from eating that because it is a slaughtered, the the meat is watered, okay, most likely by kofod. So it is not allowed to eat from it

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getting married, we cannot get married to a daughter or family.

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Because it is likely that he is mortal as well. Okay, she stated as well. And so on so forth, they found that it is very difficult for them to live within the society, not just only to pray behind the demands, but we live within the society. So some of them they started to do empty hand. empty hand means testing people before going to a friend or before eating from any meat, they will ask the person

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who is slaughtering these kind of sheeps or castles? Do you make the fear of the government? If he says yes, then there it is, okay, meat, the meat is slaughtered by him. If he says no, then they don't eat.

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And for marriage, they used to go to the Father or some of them. Of course, this is an extremely new version of them. And they used to go to the Father, and they used to question him, Do you believe in this? Do you believe in that? If he says

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no, I don't believe that the government is a Catholic government, then he is a cafard. Okay, and therefore, they don't get married to his daughter.

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Now, you might see that this is this looks very funny. And this looks very strange, and no one would accept this kind of thinking.

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Agree.

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It looks now like this, but many people, many young, many young brothers fell into this problem at that time. And we normally see some people in some countries who are holding this kind of

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process of thinking

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this is the most dangerous thing is the the thought process rather than the conclusion.

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And

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we were talking about this, as I told you yesterday,

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and they said that, if that particular individual

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is uttering these statements, then for sure he is a Catholic, and the one who keeps quiet and he does not denounce confer upon Him then He is a coward for sure. And just it drags on and on.

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And a very extreme

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level of that

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is what happened in some countries, some Arab countries.

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Actually, there were rumors that it happened, Allahu Allah, whether it happened or not, so don't quote me. They started to believe that the whole society is too far.

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Okay, but it is allowed to fight against kofod because these are more 13. So you can you should fight against them. This is the health disability law

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Not only that, but they're women

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they have to be taken as coupon

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coupons, okay,

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as the right hand process

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and they have taken the Muslim woman like this and that has happened

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don't say that this is just an imagination No, it has happened.

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Why? Because there is a problem in the way people are thinking

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young people are thinking that's why we normally say that the way we think the way we develop our ideas, the way we extract rulings from the ideal or the way we perceive a dealer

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is more important than that a dealer themselves then the product of the that process, the end product of that process.

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Now, let us go to the first example, which is what a person became cafard because of what

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because of wiping over none of the socks. The letter the non leather of

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what was the mistake?

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What is the mistake?

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Is the mistake they

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the person thought that

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was

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for else

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wanted to say?

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Yes.

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making assumptions for the next

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time they expected.

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Okay.

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Anyone? Both haha.

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Okay. Yanni we want to do as they say the crux of the issue. Haha.

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Excellent. Yeah, that's

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okay. All of you. Any you mentioned it, but that is in a very brief way. They judge others according to their own.

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What? beneath?

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They judged others, okay, according to their own belief. And that is a very big mistake.

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Yeah, a very big mistake. When you come up with a conclusion

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about anything in Sharia. Don't judge others according to your conclusion. First of all, you have to study the issue. And you have to see whether there are other opinions in this matter or not.

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Yeah,

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and that's why we always in our study, and that's why I was a little bit worried to be honest with you. We always in our study, it try to mention that there is another opinion

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okay.

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There is another opinion and sometimes we say that the other opinion is strong enough and the issue is flexible.

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But even we if we strongly

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hold another opinion,

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a certain opinion, we should admit that there is another opinion differently from our opinion and that opinion is held by scholars,

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by renowned scholars, by credible scholars and therefore the

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Those who believe on the other, in the other opinion should not be judged according to our criteria, they should be judged according to their criteria.

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Failing to do so,

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the oma will be divided into

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divisions more than even the individuals themselves.

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Because the individual himself or the individual herself, will, at a certain point, hold an opinion. After some time, we'll change the opinion. Is that true or not?

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Now, today, for example, I believe that wiping over the socks is allowed. Maybe after two days, I do a little bit research, maybe I become convinced that no wiping over the any socks is not allowed.

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So how do I look to myself when I was wiping over the socks? Do I have to compensate my Salah

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at that time

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that I prayed at that time, is the matter clear.

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So don't judge others according to your opinion.

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I mentioned to the brothers a very important

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rule. I mentioned this as a very important rule. And I gave some examples that the scholars themselves mentioned

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one of the examples is the example given by the humblest colors, the humblest colors they believe that

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eating from a camel

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flesh breaks the flesh of the common breaks

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and this is one of the particulars of madhhab Alhamdulillah masala data

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they said and the moment he mentioned something like this if the Imam is a humbling

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and

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he is followed by two people one of them is a humble and one of them is a Hanafi

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and the Eman eight from the camel

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Yeah, camel flesh and he went to prayer without

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the humbly

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he witnessed this and the Hanafi witness this

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for the humbly the Salah of the event is not valid

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for the Hanafi the Salah for the amount is what

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for the Hanafi

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the Salah for the Imam for the Hanafi by is valid.

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Okay, he doesn't believe that this breaks that will do.

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Okay, he doesn't believe that this breaks the window.

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So he saw that in Miami, doesn't he? For him, it doesn't break the window, he doesn't know that this is a hamburger, ma'am. Okay, it does break the elbow or it doesn't Okay, it breaks the elbow for him. So, therefore, therefore, he should not judge outside this and for him the Salah is valid, but the one who knows that enam is a humbling and is following that opinion and he ate the from that flesh and he never had to do after that. Okay, and they still they prayed behind him and they they hold the same opinion.

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Then for them the Salah is invalid.

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Take the example. Okay, of wiping over the socks.

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This is a very clear example.

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Many people who doesn't many people who do not believe that wiping over the socks is allowed. If they saw an enemy wiping over his socks, they don't pray behind him. They believe that what is Salah is what

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is invalid. Why?

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Because according to them, wiping over the socks is not allowed and therefore this Imam his Salah is invalid and therefore they cannot pray behind him.

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Now there is a difference between the first example and the second example we will come to that difference. Okay in a minute. But is it clear?

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What is what went wrong is that they jumped him

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According to their criteria

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Anima Malik, so he was asked, do you pray behind the person who

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bleed, okay? Who bleeds and doesn't make although

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he said, Don't you want me to pray behind people? Like, say who say you?

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Don't you? You want me to pray behind, like Satan and say, What does that mean? He believes that believing what

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breakthrough

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but if a man doesn't believe that bleeding breaks the window

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then I have to tolerate that opinion and I have to judge him according to his opinion.

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Actually, many scholars say if there is a case of difference of opinion, even you can tolerate it for yourself as well even if you believe that the Imam

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the Imam Salah is invalid like the story of what

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eating from the

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camel need

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the mm

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hmm he is eating the from that, for him,

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the Salah is invalid for the somebody who prays behind him, the Salah is invalid, but for the Hanafi

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him his Salah is valid. Now,

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there are two possibilities either we judge the amount according to his own belief or we judge the amount according to my belief, they said in some cases you judge the other according to the best of both opinions.

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Did you get this?

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So, it is true that according to his opinion his Salah is invalid according to my opinion the Salah is valid, but judgment according to my opinion is what is better is safer in this issue, which is a matter of differences and therefore I should receive that his Salah I should receive Forget about him I should perceive that his Salah is valid and therefore my Salah behind him is valid.

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Did you get the last point this is called morato killer by him okay we'll have some sorry

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because

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considering his Salah is invalid is something that is any

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any entails that he doesn't pray

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for him maybe his Salah is invalid for him, but for me, because there is a valid opinion that this person his Salah might be valid although he has done that there is a valid opinion and I hold that opinion okay and it is safer for me then let me go for that.

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Okay, let me give another example. similar to this.

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It happened one time that I was invited to give a lecture in another city.

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And then the the brothers they invited me to give the hotbar Juma some of the brothers there they follow a certain mother a little bit district and they said but if the any speaker comes and let the Salah he is what

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he is what

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massage,

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he is massage, the massage it doesn't establish Juma according to their opinion,

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but man it is a valid opinion that the massage doesn't

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establish demand.

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The one who is a massage doesn't establish Juma there are some technicalities but it is a valid opinion. It doesn't mean that he is held on to pray your mouth. This is one mistake. It is not doesn't mean that is how long to pray Duma but he doesn't pray Juma

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and they said he cannot lead us because what we believe that his Salah is what

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is invalid and he believes that he is himself.

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Did you get this yar Shabaab

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Are you following the discussion?

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Are you following the discussion? Okay.

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In this case, what can we do? So, they asked some of our elders and some of our elders hamdulillah they have knowledge and they said no, if he is praying according to a valid opinion, we should go for that valid opinion although whether he believes otherwise whether we believe otherwise as far as he is playing according to a valid opinion, we should go for that

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is it clear and especially in things related to that

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especially, okay

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and things related to rebar that So, if he is doing it according to a valid opinion and it is not okay because it is about is not causing harm For me it is not causing harm for others. So, we should not kill her, Allah Asante, La Jolla and we should

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we should

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take it

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at the best position, okay? So, the best position is the Salah is valid, and therefore, our Salah is valid as well. Okay, the worst scenario is to say that his Salah is invalid, and therefore our Salah behind him is invalid, and that is the worst scenario.

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The point is, as we said, You have judged him

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according to your own, what opinion that is the biggest mistake.

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And then

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it comes the other mistake, which is a bigger mistake,

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which you build everything according to that which is a matter of differences.

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So you concluded that his Salah is invalid and he has been praying like this for 10 years. So for seven years, actually he didn't pray

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for 10 years, as if he did not pray at all because an invalid Salah

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is not Salah

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Is that true and invalid Salah is not solid, so it's worthless. And because it is worthless, it has no value and has for 10 years he has not great for 10 years he has not prayed his Salah he actually captured and if he is captured, then maybe his cohabitation with his wife is helaman this the children like the children of Xena and maybe later on we can have the hand against them and we can take their wives as the right hand possess etc, etc. Is it clear?

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Yeah. Similarly with the issue of Buddha

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with the issue of Buddha.

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Now, some people raise their hands after salah

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and they make dua

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they believe that they are doing it following the sinner.

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Is that true or not?

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They have their own scholars who taught them this.

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And they put trust in their scholars, the ahaadeeth that are hardy might be understood in their favor.

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You remember Hadith who Mara Yama

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letter Donna kilesa Deborah kilda Salah antipolo llama Neolithic Erica.

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Neva chick lotta Hannah

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and Taku duper akula sala de Baraka Salah means at the end of each salah and we said if you remember we said what

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end of Salah is it before that asleep or after the sleep? Do you remember? So it might be understood that it is after the test live and there are other Adela that the congregation elder is not really a big problem.

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And they put this with this and they believe that they are doing something good which is

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and

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they can do it.

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Now some people believe that it is with us.

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Okay, and therefore the one who is doing it is a mock today and the mock today is worse than that. committing the person who is committing a caveat I'm gonna cover one of the major sins and we don't give them salame we don't even okay help them. We don't ask

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Are you with them? Etc, etc.

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You remember maybe

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when the American troops were bombing our brothers in Afghanistan

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okay.

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Some people were celebrating some Muslims were celebrating because what they said Allah Allah Allah is destroying Diwali mean by barley mean.

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Yeah is destroying oppressors by oppresses wrongdoers by wrongdoers. So these are Mauritania in Afghanistan, and the Americans are Kufa so far against malaria and those mortality are sometimes worse than those who commit major sins.

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And we are happy now because Allah Allah, Allah accepted our app that he is

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destroying any one party with the other party, it is a big problem in terms of thinking

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a major problem

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okay. Then, the other point related to this

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is

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that as an individual, it is a very important principle.

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There is a difference between the one who is doing gabbatha

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and the one who produced the Buddha.

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Is it clear?

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The one who invented the Buddha

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is different from the one who what,

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who is acting upon it.

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Can you see the difference?

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Can someone tell me

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about the difference?

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What is the difference between the person acting upon a beta and the person who is what?

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producing the beta inventing it?

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Yes, yeah, my

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producer. He knows that

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brings it in.

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For the people who follow it.

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Exactly. Exactly. The one who is producing it, he is the one who is trying to compete with the chowder with a lot delivered. Because he is saying, as if he is saying, Allah is legislating for us, and I am legislating that's why this kind of person, he is worse than what those who are committing major sins, but the one

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the one who believes

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that there are certain scholars

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with credibility

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and they have knowledge etc.

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And he is just following them. He is not introducing inventing producing something new, this person is excused. Actually, he when he does something as it is sooner,

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he will be rewarded.

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agree or not

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agree or not. And therefore, once we deal with him, we deal with him that he is something he is someone who is trying his best. And he is trying to get a reward from Allah, Allah Allah and he's trying to act upon this nap.

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Is it clear? Yes.

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For both Yeah.

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Yeah.

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The question is, is he going to be rewarded for his intention or for the action

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and we said and these matters

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that are not very clear.

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He will be rewarded for both

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any more than Vitamina

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okay. For example,

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Making this congregational after Salah

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making congregational after Salah. This as we said, there is a possibility that it is sadhana although it is a weak opinion, but for this person he believes that it is now because many of his scholars said that and they used to do that and even some classical scholars, this is the point, many classical scholars said that it is similar. So, they will be rewarded for the intention and the action itself okay. But if the matter is

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clear

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and the person is ignorant, he will be rewarded for the intention only in that case, not for the action.

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As we say at the end of the day, this is an all lies with a light yellow Allah, Allah, Allah, Allah, He is the one to reward people.

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But that differentiation is important.

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Even taymiyah Rahim Allah once he was walking, and some people came, and they were about to beat him. We mentioned this story before.

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They were about to beat him. And then his students came, they protected him. And he went with them. And they said, his students said, we want to go and beat them up. He said, No, no, no, don't go.

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Why?

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He said there might be rewarded,

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because they were thinking that they are defending Islam by doing that.

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Did you get this? Yeah, brothers.

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He said don't do that. Why? Because they believe that they are defending Islam by doing that. Imagine this level of justice, level of justice that you

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had.

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And in conclusion, brothers and sisters, we have to be careful when we deal with issues that

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matters of differences.

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One thing

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and the other thing is,

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if there is ignorance

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among people

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and they don't know the third thing, we should differentiate between the level of

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beta

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or the level of mistake.

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Yeah, the level of mistake mattered that is possible.

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And there are two strong opinions is different from a matter that is what clear cut.

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Yeah.

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So you need to

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disseminate this understanding

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to other brothers, in order to try to limit this problem, this phenomena to limit it as much as we can.

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If we don't do that, then

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there might be a time word we all regret, because those young people they might develop their own ideas, and they might come up with conclusions similar to the conclusions that we have mentioned. They might believe that all Muslims around them are Kufa

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we have to be very, very careful.

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And

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as I say to the brothers,

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whenever someone says just remember this statement, they say that this is without

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and it is not a clear cut means not all scholars agreed upon it. Just respond by saying that this in your view is better.

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Remember, the statement in your view is better.

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If someone said this is this one, again, say in your view it is this.

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Okay? Don't judge me according to your view.

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So these are the two statements in viewer view, which is better in your view it is and the second

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Part of the statement is don't judge me according to you.

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I hope that the matter is clear and there's a common law

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Okay, if you have questions yes.

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If the sisters have questions please send them okay quickly and inshallah we will deal with them either today or

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next week inshallah

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Yes.

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Yeah, provided that okay.

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You that doesn't lead to as well as any the worst of both opinions.

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doesn't bring the camera

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he can't say that according to your Yeah, it breaks

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this is called Morocco killer.

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Theoretically this could lead to no including the good nor evil every person would have an excuse to follow what he trusts. Could it lead to for example, a person being excused

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because he

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Yeah, there will be no incentive to find the truth. Okay.

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Babe, the question is if someone said that this leads to leaving on joining the good and forbidding the evil

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Yeah, this is a very valid point. But

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here the scholars have a clear guide

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which is the Iron Curtain mattala foofy

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mahali

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don't forbid someone if doing from doing something okay, which is a matter of differences just enjoying the good that all agree on. And for big that even that all agony as if and that's why Sofia can ignore hnsa. So piano theory said either either by Julia Malou Alam Allah Allah tala de Sala Del Mar who will attend if you see a person doing something, which is a matter of opinions, don't Okay, stop him and don't

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command

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is it clear?

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Is it clear matters of differences.

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But these colors differentiate between two types of differences. Silicone shad

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California wahida formattable silicone shell means a person is holding an old opinion and up normal opinion this we don't need to read that or opinion as a matter of differences. Is it clear?

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But

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where there are strong

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opinions and each opinion is held by a number of scholars, classical scholars, then that is that is that is a difference that we should be

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tolerating tolerate to.

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Okay or with

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Is it clear?

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Now, here there is an issue that comes

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ignorance from an or solely perspective is either

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for ignorant people and General Ignorance is other.

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Ignorance is other is unexcused a valid excuse me, okay, a person

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he prayed and his clothes, okay has an agenda. He doesn't know. His Salah is valid or invalid.

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it's valid. But if he knows that there is an agenda, and he prays with an adjuster, his follow up is what

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is invalid. What is the difference?

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He doesn't know.

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Okay, acknowledge.

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Yeah, this is very important. When ignorance spread, then we have to be careful. So there might be

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a shared opinion,

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an odd opinion, but because of ignorance people are holding

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Holding it

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and therefore,

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okay, we should be careful before enjoining it

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or forbidding it. Is it clear?

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Is it clear?

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So we you have to take the other circumstances, and therefore the first step

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when you see someone who is doing something that is a clear Mancha, not a matter of differences is to approach him in what

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a very nice way

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until you understand his view.

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Let me tell you something.

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Yeah, in Saudi Arabia, people consider smoking as heroin. I consider it as heroin smoking. Yeah.

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And normally, we use to Eonni enjoying the good and forbid the evil and when people are in a small, we used to ask them to stop. And sometimes, of course, when we were young, we used to be a little bit harsh with them.

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Okay, this is normal young people they like to

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prove themselves a

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long time ago, even before the last visit to England before I settled here, I visited some places and I saw many of the others Mashallah with long beards and they come from the masjid they just played there the first time I saw it, they just played Juma

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and they came and they started to smoke just outside the mosque if you meet us outside the message so that for me that was really odd. How can they do that? Yeah. But later on I came to know that many of their scholars believe that it is work

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and even some people say one or two even it doesn't is not counted as macros because as you are drinking, okay, a cup of coffee. It has an element of okay and is wasted anyway and maybe a cup of coffee is more expensive than you okay one or two cigarettes. So, if you want to say that this is macro, you should say that drinking a cup of coffee is macro as well or even is Hara. Okay, so we came to know about this. Now, imagine how do we want to those people and say, What are you doing fear Allah you are just coming from the masjid.

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And I remembered that this happened, you know, during Hajj

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because in how did this is one of the wisdoms you meet all different types of people that we weren't sure we were we could not handle it.

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To see people in arafa with long beards, elder people Mashallah white beards, and they are smoking.

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We cannot handle this. How come this person he travelled all the way to make this a bad day and Mashallah, he has the longvida Mashallah. Just in

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the best day, and he's smoking.

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We cannot we could not handle it. But

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ignorance is a problem, as they say ignorance is the enemy of the person.

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That's why they say just approach him in a very nice way. And tell him what, you know, the motivation behind that Masia

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The last thing the scholar said there is a difference between maaseiah that is related to others

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and the matsya that is related to what

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the individual

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Yeah, if a person if you see a person

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for example, trying to maybe rape a woman in the street

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for you This is a mouse here, if you approach him and he said well, this is my wife.

00:54:18--> 00:54:26

Yeah, but this is this is something visible, this is affecting the society you cannot say well, you don't stop me because this is my wife.

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Okay. And similarly,

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if your HD had led, for example, to

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this point, the properties of other then although this is a matter of HDR for you,

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you should be stopped. And actually you should pay compensation.

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Take this example. Yeah, I forgot to mention this example if someone is wearing some clothes, that are silk, but it is not natural.

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silk now the silk artificial silk there are two opinions about it.

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Some scholars said no it is like that what the the the natural silk so it is hella some scholars said no the word silk It doesn't mean that it is what the hell? Yeah. That the prophet SAW Selim prohibited so if you so much Allah by

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chef Mustafa Mashallah he bought Jani or his wife bought for him a very nice shirt and he's happy that okay, this is a gift from his wife stole a lot What are you doing? This is silk haram and you just ripped it off?

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Is this acceptable?

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This How about Okay, hold on for you. It's not haram for me.

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And this you are violating the what? the rights of others

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okay.

00:56:07--> 00:56:08

If minimal Jim

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had been among the one who, you know who then while Jim is

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the one who killed Taliban, have

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you ever gotten into T ma v. In Alibaba? And they'll actually wanna

00:56:28--> 00:56:31

buy him again. He's one of the Howard

00:56:33--> 00:56:38

he killed Dallas when they said when they killed him even imagine he was making liquor.

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He was making liquor. And they said when they imprisoned him, they said it's okay. As far as I can do liquor. It's alright.

00:56:53--> 00:56:58

But don't stop my tongue you from doing decay. This is what they said.

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But he what because of his he had he killed someone.

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So, we should judge him not according to his he had in this case because it is the worst. So we should kill him because he because he murdered someone.

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Okay, because he murdered someone.

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Is it clear?

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So inshallah The matter is clear. So, we want you in sha Allah brothers, any to pass this message and to any teach those brothers they are again, our brothers, and they might have a distorted understanding. And they again, we say as even told me about him, Allah said that they might be rewarded, because they are trying they feel that they are defending the deen, for example, it'd be majan

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he might be Allah Allah, he might be rewarded for his intention. But punished. Okay, for what?

00:58:02--> 00:58:03

For killing?

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Okay, I'm Muslim. And if you were to look at it from an unholy perspective, he went wrong because he knows that the blood of a Muslim is what

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is of the highest sanctity? Yeah.

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And

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it should need it should not be violated. It should not be shaped by any issue held

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by any HTML and it is for the leader of the Muslims who were appointed by the Muslims or who became the leader and he was accepted to

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shed his but his blood according to identify, commit reasonable.

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Okay, no questions from the sisters.

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By the zachman law fail