Seeking Knowledge Do I Need a Teacher Can I Do It On My Own

Assalamualaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh with smilla well hamdu Lillah wa salatu salam ala rasulillah while earlier he was so happy woman Hala la Molina myinfo now one final vema alum tena inaka Cemil Mooji Buddha along Lamia, how do we come in MLA amfa or calvia? Sha one FC Latisha What do I use my robina to is Apollo bonobo is Santa hablan amulet on karma in our hub will be strictly sundry Wessely, only Lola of the Tamil assignee of Coco Lee, or swatting salatu salam in a beautiful Hadith out of the many beautiful Hadith. He said whosoever take a path to learn, Allah would facilitate for him or her a path to Janina masala coppery. Welcome to be here. aima Salallahu

alaihe. Salam and Jana, you take a path to learn that path will all open and facilitate the path to Geneva and the hamdu Lillahi Rabbil alameen what we are trying to do agenda Institute facilitate the path of knowledge to everybody but there is always question and there is always difficulties if you want to even use the word obstacles. And one of the Communist one that we see specially related to woman that lack of time, although responsibility, but most of the time is teachers. Do I really need to have a teacher Do I really need to enroll in Institute? Can I do it alone? Can I do it online? Meaning online through websites and reading? Or do I really need to go through all this and how

about if I cannot What should I do? So it gave me a great pleasure today hamdu Lillahi Rabbil alameen to have couple more than couple actually Oh guests which are joining us, all of them from different parts of the world if I want to use the word and also from different states. Walia hamdulillah. So we are going to have we have sister Tanya, who is joining us from London at 1am. In the morning, who is also a student at gender Institute. We have sister Fawlty McCullough, who's joining us from Dallas. She is a woman of knowledge and study dwelling on hand and we had the pleasure of having her as a teacher with us. She's also one of the founding member of the Institute.

I have the pleasure also assisted her Simon JD who some of you might have enjoyed her topic and her session that we had about three four months ago. And she's again Allah blessed us to have out again to have another session or another actually course this time in the summer. She's joining us from California. And there is one more who will join us in short law soon. So what I want to share with everybody and I want you all and I'm going to start with Tammy essence She is our guest since she lives in London, if you are allowing me, share with us, your attorney and share with everybody who's listening to us. What made you study and first of all, who are you and how do you want people to

know you other than you're a servant of Allah, which we all

great pleasure to be here.

I started my journey, knowledge actually from childhood outside I'm there I was blessed to be born in a in a practicing family. Around the age of 20. I started learning the tweet that was my first exposure to

proper learning with the teacher and their lesson my teacher was a graduate from a Czech heifer check a Haifa wherever you graduated from in Jeddah. So she was a graduate from the the Quranic school in Jeddah. And she inspired me so much, Mashallah, she was a, you know, as such a loving, gentle teacher, she was a mom, mother of four children at that time. And at that time, I was just, you know, I was just in my early 20s. So,

after that I got married, I had children. I'm a mother of three kids.

And I went to university in Sydney, and then I moved to London. So I'm actually from Sydney, but I moved to London. And I finished my master's. At the moment, I'm doing my PhD in cancer research, Simon healthcare.

But my Islamic journey, actually, you know, has been going on and off. Over over since since I was 20. I think I seriously started taking up learning. around three years ago, when I started learning Arabic. I just I went to Egypt, I just dropped everything, took care of my kids went to Egypt without my husband, as well. So you've been waiting to do this for many years. That's your children without your husband. With my children without my husband, my three kids I just packed my bags and I went to study

I found the land he was the most and I just remember clearly what made me do that it was one Ramadan I know I was praying to Ravi and dose in the masjid and obviously the Imam was doing very long, beautiful resuscitation and I was standing there and my mind was just wondering of you know, it doesn't play and I didn't understand anything. And I just panela you know, I don't understand the Quran i said i How can I connect to the Quran and I just thought to myself Allah has given me so much I studied so much in the dunya world in a linear sense. So what's stopping me from learning Arabic? How can I stand in front of Allah and say, Well, I haven't made enough of it. So that's,

that's that same Ramadan Actually, I do want to mention my teacher she taught me every Ramadan she makes a list where she writes under the water she really wants and she said, Never has there been a dog that hasn't been answered from hardwire list. Send that Ramadan I remember writing down Allah please allow me to learn Arabic by next Ramadan.

I you know, hamdulillah it took three years for the door to be answered. But hamdulillah I mean, it's it's it's been the best thing I've ever done. And since then, now at the moment, I'm doing an alum Alinea course here in London and Shaq Akram nadwi we're doing

and so it's back to the question of the title of this topic. Did you think you can do this without let's say moving to Egypt or without having a teacher in Egypt or now having idemia and the teachers as being have studied in the secular world and Mashallah you're educated? And you know, you learn Arabic Can you just read books on the internet and then Abdullah Bellamy No, I mean I taught you said there's no way you could do this without a teacher teaches a lot of people think nowadays so you know there's some things on the internet I can just look up the resources read a book, but if you look at the you know, tradition of the prophets, Allah Allah, Allah sent him as a teacher to us.

So you know, he was he didn't just come Allah could have just given us the Quran and say Here you go, here's the Quran read it and do whatever you want with it. But the prophecy lesson was a living example of the Quran and and i would say without the teachers would not have been possible at all my teachers by not just a great source of inspiration, but it's also the other day you learn from a teacher that is you know, that you get from from teacher it's also the tips that they share with you that the journey that they have gone through and they share that with you and that that gives us such a you know, a

such a boost to us

hamdulillah

What made you join gender Institute

I joined genesi church last year actually just after coming back from Egypt and I joined the

live learn learn love and live the Quran L L L occur and and after that I also did the one of the desk ear courses since and its effect on me

and I have to say I was Allah has blessed me with this opportunity and I'm so thankful This is one of the positives of Coronavirus I would say

that he was not here we would probably I would probably have never known about Gen Institute and the other end of the world so hamdulillah is it was a great pleasure to to learn and to share

what do you tell women who are listening to

so my advice would be it's it's never too late First of all, you know a lot of the time we will say I'm a mom you know I've got kids I've got other responsibilities

I you know I'm too old to learn Arabic I've heard lots of people said I said I used to say that to myself. So I've been there done that I would only say oh no my brain is died now you know I can't do this. But have the life you if you make the intention, Allah makes it so easy that he just opens up the park. It's

Allah just blesses it for you. And another another thing is we often tell ourselves we don't have enough time and I said that to myself, I don't have enough time I have kids I have work because I used to I used to work full time before moving before going to Egypt.

And and even when I when I left my work to go to Egypt, but you always thought of thought you know, how am I going to how am I how am I going to maintain you know, the rents here the the cost and everything else but hamdulillah Allah blessed our rizek and I've never felt a hardship. Hum did Allah Subhana Allah, I'm coming back to you. That's not it. So sister Jose saramonic Rahmatullah it's always so good to see you. And Zack locker for joining us and I was California, hot or beautiful weather as always.

Okay.

To you, you're muted.

I'm so sorry. Sorry about that. You would think I would have known that having done these projects before, forgive me, I can send I'm not sure if it's an honor to be here with you and Hamdulillah, California, sunny and windy today, actually hamdullah we have a really nice weather, but it's pretty windy out there. So I'm getting that, but it's an honor to be here with you. How are you? And how long did it last? But I mean, looking for your course inshallah. We'll talk about it in a second. So the same thing here, Jose. Now tell people who are you and what made you study and why do I need a teacher comes?

Sure. So in a nutshell on him that I am a mother of two a wife and also an educator by profession. I've been teaching for over 20 years and hamdulillah different ages and ranges. I'm also a writer, and Al Hamdulillah. You know, my journey began many years ago. You know, I'm probably older than some of the people listening and watching here. But 100 it I started, you know, studying the deen formally, I would say that more than 20 close to 25 years ago, at home with our teachers here in the San Francisco Bay Area, we haven't hummed in that many wonderful teachers. So I began. And at that time, we were studying the core, you know, sciences and hamdulillah. From aqeedah, we were studying

Ischia, Hadith events. So it was an incredible opportunity, and I'm pumped, I was very grateful. And, you know, looking back now, and seeing the current crisis of knowledge that we have, I always feel like, you know, Subhanallah, we really were very, very blessed to have the opportunities that we had. Because as we were here today, speaking on this issue, there are many people who just don't have access to the teachers that maybe once was much, much easier and hamdulillah. So having the ability to actually see and interact with teachers every day, sometimes. Especially, I mean, certainly on a weekly basis, but every day was incredible. And I mean, I just might my, you know,

thinking back for example, with my, you know, Quranic studies, for example, that was a time where it was very difficult to, you know, my, among my teachers, my first teachers was actually a female teacher. And she was such an inspiration to me personally, just to have a friend, someone who was close to eight in age with me, but who was also a woman to study put on with her, it was just a beautiful opportunity I have I had other teachers as well, but I just remember that that journey of completing my, my, you know, learning Tajweed, learning how to recite the Quran, according to again, the size of the jury was a process and it took a lot of effort, and I can't imagine not having, you

know, access to teachers and trying to do that on my own. So and I know some people that's, you may be because of circumstances, what they have to do, they don't have opportunities, but I truly feel very blessed because we had, you know, to be able to watch for example, oversight or, or, or your teacher with a hothead, you know, to pronounce the letters accurately, you need to look at them, right, you need to actually see them, you need to hear them. So having that direct access made all the difference in the world, for someone who's not a native speaker of Arabic like myself, to be able to, you know, try to really work on honing those skills. But so you don't have that up for me,

I really am so grateful that our last product gave us that that you know, that opportunity. But now, you know why? Why do we need teachers exactly what I mentioned, we have a crisis of knowledge, we have a lot of people who are unfortunately, trying to do this on their own. And they don't have they don't realize that this is, you know, a very deep I mean, the whole, you know, tradition is an ocean, right? There's so much knowledge. And I think as they say, the more you learn, the more you realize how little you know, that, unfortunately, it gets lost on I think a lot of people when they're just in the age of information, they think, oh, at the tip of my fingers, I can go and do a

search and I can find the answer from chef Google or chef whoever. And right away they're putting out fatwas of their own or they're kind of you know, cherry picking right this is oftentimes what happens you take the opinion that suits your enough's your Hawa, and there's really no thought process there's really no context there's really no fact checking there's none of that that can happen when you're with a teacher because the teacher that's what they're trained to do, they're trained to, you know, take the knowledge that you that is being presented not only elucidate and explain it but also point you in the correct direction so that you don't get lost with that

knowledge. Of course we know there are many concepts and ideas that can be you know very, very you know, overwhelming if you're not prepared for those things. And this is why you know, less pilot commands this and therefore and right first

input data alimony. What does that mean? You know, you have to first know what you don't know. And that's the imperative and that last part of the I asked

People have knowledge, if you don't know, but if you don't know that you don't know, right, which is what can happen when you're in the delusion, again of modern times with with degrees in academia and a lot of puffery around knowledge, right? There's a lot of

people who think they know because they've been told that they're this or that, but somehow when you study with a teacher, it's very humbling and you realize right away how little you really know. So I think all of that gets lost in today's age. And that's why this topic is so incredibly important. And we're so grateful that you are Mashallah leading the discussion. May Allah bless you. And

welcome back to everybody. Fatima Fatima, joining us from Dallas, Miss Miller.

See all of you, and honored to be able to be among the con as well and hamdulillah. So my name is Fatima. I'm originally from South Africa, born and raised there. Then I moved here with my husband and two kids. And then I had the third one. Yeah. So I came in, they were very young. And I think immediately everybody will realize that when you have kids is quite rarely it comes to you that to have enough. Dino, okay. Dunya knowledge you also need to learn. But when you're raising kids, and you realize that God has given you that trust is when it really awakens, what do I know? It is for yourself, okay, but when you have to just get responsible for kids, then you have to think again.

So, right now,

in Dallas,

this was last year, I graduated.

I'm really grateful to all that. But it really all started at me as a

kid, I made it simple to

many years.

And I tell you, when Allah answers to us, he's like, Oh, you want the cake. I put the cream and the cherry on

my head, this is what I always do. And so like insane for me, I started when I was recording. When I first started my journey into Arabic formal Arabic obviously before that, I was asked to go to the masjid for once a week to see Arabic and you try different things all the time to learn. When my formal studies Islam study started when I was 45

doesn't look like it Mashallah. You know, I tell you some hyla the thing it allows your hand when.

And then the other thing I have to mention is that what really inspired me sometime that was my husband used to read a lot of business books. So I picked up one of them at one time, it was called good to correct. And I think those of you who may know me know about this book of mine. So I was I began reading it, but Well, I only finished half a page. Because again, my question, because it asked the question, who's the enemy of great. And what is it? What is it asking two lines later? It's like, good is the enemy of great as like, Yes. Good Muslim. Good mother. good teacher. So we don't get too great because we so stuck in good.

So that's really opened my eyes. And it made me realize that, wait, I don't want to be hovering here. I don't want to be stagnating here and going, doing simple things. And then years will go by, I want to do more. And I think this is

this great part is what we look for, because we can't take mediocrity. Why when it comes to GE, why not for junior we're very happy to do it. So that was the one thing I really wanted to share with everyone because there was part of my inspiration. Then the other thing is that

it was and then once I began this simple journey and spoke to a friend I met in 2003. And we clicked and I think partly because both had this great desire to get some form of Women's Institute for young girls or old girls or older girls to have the confidence in who they were as Muslims to have it confidence that we come from. We may we all Muslim women. We come from the first Muslim lady journey now. If anything, I have her support.

Oh, I have my grandmother over the you know, I have this full

Trent coming behind.

So this is I think we shared this desire that we wanted something in an update for us in stages and phases. And we are here so and humbled enough for that as well.

Now, when it comes to teachers in particular, and, you know, everyone's circumstance is different. And I know there was a time when I,

none, whether it was dunya courses or D courses, there was only so much I could do. And I understand and appreciate everyone says, honestly, everyone's doing their best. And I know that.

So when it came to, but when you have the opportunity, and the circumstance allows it, then for me personally, if you don't take the opportunity, and don't ask Allah to help you

use they're going to go by,

you wake up 10 years later, five years later, and

you know, it's gone, you can rewind it. But then coming back again to the teachers for the reason it was good to me very nice. You always knew about the teacher, I understood the value of the qualified teacher.

The reasons it was explained well, and he was listening in the class, but

it's like a mother, you know, a mother gives birth to a baby and gives the baby milk, the mother will give the baby solids and introduce solids when the baby's raped. Some babies are ready early on some later on.

So nothing too early, nothing too late. And this is how teachers

they know, nothing too early, nothing too late. Just watch what is right for you.

So for me, that was really kind of put it together that that's what makes will take us to the grade that we're looking for.

Then in addition to that,

now I've been standing for money for seven, eight years now. And hamdulillah. Allah has given me the opportunity and kept me on this journey. And I'm very grateful to him a lot. I mean, it's just been amazing. So stays, the teacher will teacher, students relationship that you have,

after studying formally, slowly or informally as well is that relationship that you both, then there's the relationship that you both the connection goes with your class.

Again, these classmates become the support. And you know, it's the jamaa. When you have the jamaa, you have the burqa, whether it's for food or for knowledge, is always going to be the bearer of togetherness. So you'll find that bit, you know, magazine, I was so much more older. And I was like, I'm gonna do the writing and typing and all the new for new technology. And so I brought experience to the classroom, they get they brought technology and other things. And there was support for both. And it was fun.

And then furthermore, you know, that you're teaching and learning from their teachers, and sometimes they talking about the setup, and you realize that, oh, they're my teachers too.

So if you connect it, so and you begin to realize that you're part of this beautiful, big

community of teachers and students, everybody learned, everyone, trans people, that's really profound for me, that really kept me going. So you have the relationship in class, you start beginning to form bonds.

And I have amazing bonds, but from 810 years ago, those are lasting relationships, and nothing.

Personally, yes. If you cannot do it, and you're doing whatever you can, Allah knows. For me, I always Allah knows, I've been a hobby. So he knows each one circumstance, but we have to try to get out of good in each circumstance towards

a qualified teacher and a former institution with exams and papers.

So Hanalei, ultimately I can't, I wouldn't have said it better. Maybe if you want to just put your computer a little bit closer because maybe the sound I don't have my side, or yours, too. So if I want to summarize, then I'm going to add two things which are

prathima did not say she allows me Of course you will.

Knowledge and all of you will agree on that everybody also listen knowledge in any discipline, let alone in the knowledge of Allah will require sacrifice.

You will not be in your comfort zone, you know in everything you want is there and sleep as much as you want to have fun as much as you want and then you will learn

and I always compared medicine because that's my what I studied and then it's Tomic studies I mean if you told me how many hours you studied and worked in the residency for to be an OB GYN, you probably will never believe it. And this is one of the things that 3d like like when I was thinking of studying DNA I was like you put all this effort for medicine why not so number one, it definitely require sacrifice. And the reason I'm saying this because I want you all to share and this is something for especially for a woman that we will need to sacrifice the differences this sacrifice for a long span of time we sacrifice for our dunya to learn to have degree to have even to have

children is a huge sacrifice because a lot of your comfort and you will give a lot and maybe you will not get back So number one is sacrifice. Number two, the the path there is always obstacles obstacles, foot by yourself or myself obstacle but definitely by shavon an obstacle put by people Subhanallah and then obstacle just come out of Norway the same way is come you don't know from where so if you want to share this all with everybody also because it's not that easy. We don't wanna put a rosy picture but it's the most beautiful picture this is how I will say the best thing ever will happen to someone a man or a woman younger old when a lost pantalla literally drag you to learn

about him and his deed so yeah Tanya shared with us the difficulties not that Rosie

have to say you know doctor have a partner so beautifully

definitely there has to be a lot of sacrifice in studying it you know not anything not just the studying the dean but also studying anything for the dunya there has to be sacrifice I think especially as a mother

it's you have to very if to really make sure that you have a tough schedule not you're not wasting wasting any time so as to say but what I can say is the first thing we start off with is that when we start with that Allah just

blesses you in ways you cannot imagine

one of the you know the biggest sacrifice obviously I had to make is to go away to Egypt but nobody spoke in English suddenly there I was you know I I thought I knew a bit of Arabic actually when I went there I realized that

there was you know, I remember going to my class first day it was I had to take a take a cab to the class or he wasn't he wasn't quite close to my house he was 20 minutes there and 20 minutes back so I'd wake up in the morning put all my children in a foreign

in a car and Institute where they just pay to learn for and full time and then I would go off to class and I would come back from class and then you know do my homework for a few hours then pick the kids up again and i would i would have basically sacrificed my sleep after fudger does not sleep after fudger speak up early in the morning when the kids are in bed get some work done

every single day so it was it was it was actually very difficult for me because I haven't studied for a long time I mean I did my masters around seven eight years before that so after eight years of free time I'm suddenly back to studying full time

and it you know everyday I had to memorize around 20 words 20 new Arabic words and and the teacher because I went to an institute It was very strict the teacher treated us like teenagers.

I think I was one of the actually I was so inspired there was another woman in my class was 60 years old. And Auntie We called her Auntie she was the highlight to us and she was the most dedicated student ever that I've ever seen um so every single time I felt bad about myself I look at her and I said look this anti she's she keeps going Why should I feel bad I should I need to keep going. And so if we didn't do our homework, we got a very bad telling up from the teacher. And he was the Egyptian way. It's not the western way that you know, they're not very lenient and so it's okay can do it tomorrow. It's very much like Why haven't you done your homework and he couldn't say actually

my, my child didn't let me do it. Didn't know if you're going to do to stay in this class. Yeah, no excuses. No excuses allowed. But that was perfect for me because I'm the kind of person

He needs a bit of push so that push from the teacher was what I really needed him there lotsa it you know

but what I can say is you take one step in as well as the prompts allow this one told us in our heads that we take one step towards Allah and then allow it run towards us and and i can i can just say this is this is 100% true that if we take one step Allah will make things easy for us and He will give us blessings from places we don't know yes we have to make the sacrifices but it is going to be so worth it at the end that inshallah inshallah

yeah Jose what is oh

I'm sorry office if you just allow me we have the youngest

student and soon to be a teacher also. We have Biba joining us also from Texas from Dallas, right yellow Beaver. I'm not gonna say anything. I will let her say everything. Everything I know love you. I make sure that you know Bismillah

embarrassing for me.

I watched your talk.

So I know how long you speak. Mashallah. Okay, well, big expectations now. Yeah, Santa Monica. It's really a big honor to be here. Dr. Haifa has been like a big inspiration for me. I don't know if she knows if she remembers this. But I met her like when I was very, very young. So I was doing hips at the time I did my hips at the Plano Masjid. So I guess a little bit about me I was I finished my hips when I was about 10 years old. From the point of view that I was 100. That was the first half is from the point of motion, full time hips program there. And let's do this in Dallas, Texas, for those of you who don't know. And I remember I met Dr. Haifa there, she used to, like come and do

some lectures there with john the Institute. So I met her for the first time there when I was about like eight or nine years old. And I remember we bought like, like CDs from them. And whenever we used to drive to hips, my, we would play them in the car, my mom would play them because I live in Frisco. So it's actually half an hour drive to Plano. So we had listened to the CD every time. And anyone who does hips knows this is you'll accidentally start memorizing everything around you, whether that's intentional or unintentional. So I basically memorize the entire CD because we would listen to it so many times going back and forth. So yeah, so I don't know. But Dr. hypha knows that.

But yeah, so that's been a big inspiration for me.

I guess. Besides from my hips and stuff, I went back to public school after I finished my hips in like about seventh grade, and I just recently graduated high school as the valedictorian at my school hamdulillah and, inshallah, in the fall, I'm going to be attending Harvard. So I was accepted. Just like this past April, I was accepted into Georgetown University in DC, I was accepted into Yale, and I was also accepted into Harvard, so I'm going to be attending Harvard inshallah. And then also, recently, just like this past IID, we heard that I was selected as a US Presidential Scholar. So basically, what that is, is that they choose one boy and one girl from each state across

the US. And so hamdulillah they chose me as the girl from Texas. So, yeah.

Yeah, so, um, but one thing that's like, kind of always stuck with me throughout, like my journey, and everything from when I was very young, is, it's very important to keep both your deen and your dunya in your life, you know, it's very easy for people to get so caught up with one thing and forget the other. And I think that it's not just possible to balance both, but it's necessary to balance both. If you want to have a good, a good dunya then you have to have the deen in your life, right. And, like, no one wants to live and live a hard life here. So if you keep that being in your life, and the dunya easily comes to you. So, um, I started doing genetic Institute from when I was

very young. And then I had a little bit of time when I was at school, so I got a little busy. But then I started to realize like, because I am busy, that's why it's more important to make sure that I'm doing these extra classes to make sure that I'm keeping my data in my life. So during high school, I would take like the weekend classes that were virtual, so that I was able to like join those from home. And I think for me, like it was really important to keep those like those classes weekly along with like, my schoolwork because it's so easy when you're doing schoolwork to get very caught up with that. It's very it's a lot of pressure when you're trying to like be at the top of

the class or you're trying to get certain grades and balance your extracurricular activities. You also have to remember that your deen is also something that's important so it's easy to get like consumed by all the pressure from there and start to think that like you know, there's no hope for you but when you keep your Daniel remember why you're doing this stuff for the venue, right because you want to be an ambassador for as long as

And also I think it's really important like part of this this whole seminar today is about like having a teacher and why that's important you know no one's the like no one's eemaan is stagnant right? Sometimes it's it's really high sometimes you're feeling really good like during Ramadan right after Ramadan, you're feeling really good about like being a Muslim and like all those things you're reading Quran every day, but then a couple weeks down the line a couple months down the line, it starts to dip a little bit and those things like yeah, you can go on Google you can like search up things you can watch YouTube videos to try to boost dream up, but it's not as consistent. So I

think it's very important to have a teacher there because it's someone that's, that's always consistent, always there to make sure that whether your dean is high or your your email is low, you have someone there to make sure that you're keeping that consistent in your life always. So who taught you all that at age? 17? I'm speechless. At age 17. I don't know if I when I knew 10% of what you are. Marshall lottomatica

was your best teacher. Is your mother. Yeah.

Luckily, I don't remember your mother to be honest with you. But just seeing you this is this is why we need a good teacher. That's why mother's needs to learn. Because that's the product. We were not born with this information. Nobody. Nobody even though Swati saw to some Allah taught. But this this yummy Honestly, I'm speechless. Yella Biba literally, literally. And those know, those of you who know me, I'm like, I rarely get speechless. But now I am.

Gonna Say, it's basically the balance that we all talk about, that every woman, young and old, say the balance, that's exactly what she just shared with you that we need the balance. And you need both. I loved this, you need the junior. But make your junior four are here. I mean, what more than Harvard, everybody, I'm sure listening to me know Harvard, nobody doesn't know Harvard. To get to Harvard, I can't tell you how difficult let alone to get a scholarship to Harvard. Then the obstacle that's everybody say it's an obstacle. And I always said it is never an obstacle is being a woman wearing a job. looking different. That's only shaitan, who puts in there, but who kept you with this

strength. And this confidence.

Yeah, my mom over everything. Allah bless her. So my family, like we're a very, it's just me, my dad, my mom and my sister. So we're a very, like, we have a lot of girls in the house. So we've always been very girl power. Um, so we don't have like, we don't have any sons. I don't have a brother or anything, right? So and

I know that like, especially like with culture, and everything from like, from back then. And still today, it's very easy for us to encourage our sons to do things you know, to go do it tips, right? Or to go and do good in like the in school and stuff like that, too. And very rarely Will you hear when when a boy's doing good in both of these that they'll say how are you managing both of them, right? Like, so often people will say, oh, you're a mother, how are you also going to manage doing this? But for boys, we hear it all the time. It's fine that they're doing good they're doing in the dunya. Obviously, it's still hard, but like it's not as as shocking. So but in my household, I think

we've always a girl is never less than a boy in our house. We've always been very, very empowering of the girls in our household because there's I mean, there's only girls in the house really as my dad as well. And that Yeah, so my mom I think about everything else has always been the one that she sticks with me and she pushes me through everything through my hips. She literally, I like even the girls in my class used to be like, jealous of my mom. They used to say, wow, I wish I wish my mom was doing what your what your mom would do. She always like would when I would come home, she would listen to my grant, she would help me with my homeschooling. Whenever I went back to school, sit

like I do wear hijab, and especially in my area, and my high school particularly I was the only hijab yet my school for a very long time. There's a couple more No, but like we're not we don't have that big of a Muslim population in my area. So it was it was kind of difficult, you know, I would go to school some days. And I know that people are either saying things or they're looking at me in a different way and everyone knows how that feels. It doesn't matter how young you are, you know how that feels when someone is looking at you. And I know that for a lot of times that gets to you and I would come home and my mom would see that I'm upset. And so when I'm upset it's not just bothering

like my schoolwork, it's also bothering my hips. So she would be taking my revision and she would like realize there's a bunch more mistakes and like What's wrong, you know, so my mom was always the one who would kind of tease those things out of me and

like sit down with me and really encouraged me to join these classes like the gender Institute classes or to go to the masjid and like join the Arabic classes there to constantly like

Engage myself in, in my Deen so that those things that other people were saying don't affect me. I think the more you learn about your own theme, the more convinced you are about your own theme. I really believe that your education is your liberation right? Like the more you know about your own things, no one can convince you to take that away from like to take that away from you. Right? So my mom has always pushed me to get involved in like activities like that to make sure that my Deen is always

as as well as I can manage to maintain it because once your deen is in check, then everything else falls into place. And those things that other people are saying about you. They don't matter. One of my favorite quotes is from Dr. Seuss. It's like be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. And I think that quote like really speaks to me as like a person. Like, you know, you you.

You said it very quickly. I talked very quickly. You You are, be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. So you need to you need to be confident in who you are as a person, whether that's in your deen or as in your character, whatever kind of person you are what you believe you need to be confident in that. And then Aside from that, when someone says some things are against that, that shouldn't affect you because you should be so convinced in who you are. You should be so convinced an ally in your theme that that shouldn't affect you those people shouldn't matter and also those who matter shouldn't mind the people that

you surround yourself with those should be people that support you and understand that you are you're on this journey and you're convinced of who you are and you're not going to let anything drag you down.

I have no words to tell me a takeover.

What do you want to talk with the Viva? And by the way, how did I know about lobby but her mother emailed me again? She yes I didn't know her mother emailed me your student of gender Institute and then she put your video of your speech and your graduation and I even didn't know you were a student agenda. And immediately I texted your mother and I said she needs to be on this with us. Because that's what people need to see reality is not books is not reading it's not fiction. It's not like we had all the where we are born raised abroad and we are different here you are 17 are you 18 I don't think you have 7070 exactly 70 because I when I went to him was the faulty meant to play No,

remember the CD time this was like 12 years ago. More than that, actually. So Tanya, Kenya joining us from London, you take over

there. I'm so

sorry. Go ahead.

I'm so inspired by you as a mother of three girls I have three girls.

One of them actually just finished her hips. So one day I pray that Allah makes her like you confidence is she's just 10 years old. They're like so confident and Allah makes her you know, confident and have faith most importantly and I feel that your name is a testament to your intelligence

I mean you you

know love Yeah,

what can I say? And I'm so inspired by what you said about your mom so this is this is for me a takeaway point from this from this talk is that I want to be a mom like your mom like you just said that like you just made the lot and like especially in my house like one thing we've always enforced is like the law and stuff you know my dad used to always like joke like oh you have to like get up into hydrogen later like the first law they teach you is like

Robert McNamara Bayani so you're right like your parents did you though but the Why is like a very important thing like I don't know if you guys saw like I had a news clip as well. And on the news clip they showed what I was like my very first day of pre kindergarten right before I went to lebuh which clip it was from CBS Okay, CBS yes CBS 11

Yeah, so on the clip basically we shared with them a video that I had from like when I was a very very young girl right before I was about to start pre kindergarten so I was living like three or four years old and my mom is speaking to me and she was telling me to like like say these these dilemmas and she like said about visiting the IMA and like I was repeating after her and I was four and she said Libby but like say this though so that you can you can study at Harvard when you're when you're older. And like

you know 13 years later now here I am right? So like you just never know like, like when your sister Hannah was talking earlier she was saying like oh she made a doula and just for Madonna it was accepted Three years later, right? You never know when it's going to be accepted like a lot. Always here is usually like what's important is that you you say it right then right?

So panela hostile takeover.

I'm just speechless as you Dr. hypo Mashallah vertical lead people what an honor. What an honor to meet such a precocious intelligent

A well spoken inspiring young woman oh my gosh I don't have daughters I have two boys but Subhan Allah I want them to watch you and learn from you. Because you really are an example for all of us male female doesn't matter May Allah increase you and preserve you and protect you and your mother and your family Wow, I just I'm really really moved by you and your sage advice me Mashallah. As Dr. Ivor said these are things that some of us may never get to even if we live many decades but here you are in your young age. And this is 100 I mean I'm certain it's because you are a container you're a vessel of the word of Allah subhana wa tada and Allah put that in you know, I mean, your

your mother inspired you to do that Mashallah, you succeeded? And so when you speak it's like Mashallah, the words these wisdom this wasn't just emanate from you but this is the the gift right of prioritizing and this is what I have that we all need to do to put all us apart without a first to put the this Dean first. Mashallah. And as you said, once you take care of that, then Allah soprano will take care of the dunya for you, right? So it's, it's, you're just a testimony for all of us very inspiring. Mashallah, may Allah protect you, thank you so much for sharing. I want to watch all your stuff now.

I leave it to you. And then I have couple of questions for a tough questions for you. Since you,

you are muted.

muted.

Yeah, go ahead. Um, well, I have your speech, and I never in my life thought that I'd ever get to meet you or talk to you directly.

So I am really happy to be part of you. It's almost, it's almost like, our dream came true before our dream really started. This is what we were dreaming that we have our confident Muslim, ready to take on the dunya. With with the, with the support and the burqa, and I'm so happy to see this in loving reality. So I really am very proud of you. And I can only imagine the sacrifice your parents, and in particularly your mom, I'm a mom of three kids, two of them, they, they all went to school and the picking up the dropping off the cooking routine in the making sure kids are well and healthy, I can just put my shoes my feet in and shoes. So

more than anything, I take my hat off to her into your day. And I bring this in as because it's the sacrifice, they make the vision, your mom had a vision when you were three years old, she probably had a vision even before you were born.

So nobody can replace that, that to us that she and your dad, or your grandparents, for example. Who knows, we our history is become with a lot of people behind. Like I said before, it's your parents was your grandparents on both sides. And who knows before that, and for us to be strong. And to be practicing. We can

power. And this is something that the West

tries to make us forget and makes us

but we are strong people we are how

someone else.

We have nothing to waver about, we have only confidence.

And you are a testament of that. When you come that way, this is when

you can have the best of both. And so

a lot of the best in the dunya and akhira as you go ahead. And I wish you and all our young boys and girls all know upstream.

I mean, because the wisdom is the thing.

And why? And this is what reminded me a lot always go all over. Take the right choice.

So I'm really proud of you. And I just couldn't make a sacrifice and we were talking sacrifices earlier as well. And

anytime you study, that's it.

All of us understand and know what it means and what it takes in a good for me a good big shout out to our husbands for example, for our children who may not have studied the books that your parents didn't study the books, but they definitely were part of your step. So Pamela, let me ask you this Libby body ready for tough ones are

I'm sure they can leave it to live up to everyone's expectations. Before I said tough ones, I'm gonna make a deal out for you

by the casada.

protector as you protect your righteous children.

And I really mean this, like you are as if you're my daughter. Absolutely, because this is really inspiring. Now let me share with you some of the experiences that youth go through when they do the Quran journey. A lot of them don't like it that a lot of them find it is very difficult. A lot of them actually do it because their parents want, but they don't have what you have tried. And number one is the blessing of Allah, the blessing and the birkoff your parents, but I'm sure in your journey, especially when you were seven and eight. At one point, you really said I don't want to do that. This is too much. My parents wanted me How am I right? Yeah, absolutely.

Let's meet you going. Cuz that's reality, we have to face reality.

Yeah, and I think for myself, I had a little bit of a different journey than all the people in my, in my hips class.

Like, for the most part, we were, we were pretty like close to lunch. And I think that all of us going into that program, like all wanted to, like finish through with it. But I know that there are a lot of kids that like, you know, their parents put them in hopes they really want them to go into hips and stuff. And so I know even in my classes, like I've seen people that have been put into hips, and then like, half a year later, they don't want to do it anymore. So I mean, their parents can force them that much. So they've left at that point.

For myself, my family doesn't have any like my extended family. We've never had any, any hope that's in our family. So I was the first one and have dinner. So I'm like when I was starting like, it was something that Mike my one of my teachers had mentioned it I used to do nazarick class in like my local Masjid. And one of my teachers had mentioned it, I was very interested in I came home and I told my parents about it. And I know a lot of people were asking, like if I was homeschooled, I did homeschool for a couple years, from like fourth to sixth grade when I was doing my full time parents program. And then I went back to public school. But when my parents were going to withdraw me from

school, we had a little bit of like, like a pretty big discussion about it because I was doing pretty well in school. And my parents weren't sure if they wanted to withdraw me from like the public school kind of environment, because it's kind of harder to do homeschooling, if you're not used to that program already. So

there was a lot of like, do we want to do this? Or do we not and at the end, both my parents kind of came to the decision, and also my sister, may Allah bless her too, she deserves a lot of credit, too. She made a lot of sacrifices for me, she really like, pushed my parents and said, I think this is a good idea. And my parents both came to the decision, like, you know, if we're doing it for a while, then it's gonna be fine. And I think like the fact that we had such a huge decision factor behind it. Whenever I would be in those moments where it was like, I don't want to do it anymore. It's too hard. You know, I mean, like,

as much as my mom tells me that I also get yelled at at home, right? I go to class, and there are days that like, you know, the Judah is just not easy for me. So you know, and you come home and you just don't want to do it anymore, because you just want to be like the other kids, right? Yeah, see what everyone else is doing. You see that everyone is getting to like do these activities and stuff and you're just like, at home and like trying to finish this thing out. So you can go and join them and be normal again, right?

So a lot of times I used to get very upset. And I like I know I used to like write out notes to myself that I don't want to do this anymore and stuff. And my mom used to laugh at me all the time and she said you know like in, in like down the line 10 years from now you're gonna laugh at this. But like the thing that motivated me I'd say is like always remembering how many sacrifices my my family made for me is that like, I can't just let that all go to waste. I know that the people are on me like, they made so many sacrifices for me because we know we're willing to make so many sacrifices only for this kind of thing because it's for a lot, right? Because you know that there's

so much bigger of a payout, right? So many people like I know like when you explain like, why would you go into medical school for like eight years, right? It's a long time, a lot of a lot of money you have to spend on it, but you know, at the end of it, you're gonna get like a rewarding job out of it, you you're doing something that's really helping humanity, there's also like a good pay out of it. So people are willing to put in that sacrifice sport, right? But there could be no better reward than then what comes from a lot right then that genda so there's no limit to the sacrifice you're willing to make for something like that. So for me it was that it was it was having that

motivation for myself already when I was a kid that like I know that it was something I wanted to do by myself and my parents were willing to support me through that. And then also knowing all the sacrifice they had made for me. I just didn't want any of that to go to waste and so despite all the hardships I think that it's most important in those moments of hardship when you don't want to do it. Those are the moments it's most important to turn to Allah and I know that like even like, that even pertains to me today like especially like through high school and stuff. There have been a lot of days where I just didn't want to to go to school because there were people saying stuff to me,

the grades were hard, you know, and all the extracurriculars it was

Too much pressure for me. But um, but you know, I come home and those were the moments especially my mom would teach me like you have to realize that like when you are at your lowest that's when it's most important to turn to a lot it's easy to turn to Allah when things are easy you know, when things are good, it's easy to I think there's like an eye or something like that, like you know, like there are people that turn to Allah when things are good, you know, they're constantly willing to like, you know, you say your hand when everything is good, but then it's really hard to say 100 or less when things are not good, right? But that's when it's the most important to you know, you're

putting on Well, what is that my silliness and our boredom? Now let me ask you this, who is the most important teacher in your life? Could you have done it without that person?

All of my teachers 100 like, from everything from being to dunya every one of them has been very, very influential in my life and in their own ways. But like the two teachers that particularly meant a lot to me, were my very first nausea teacher, brother Yasser, from the Frisco mustard he was the one who had mentioned hips to me and the really beginning we used to just do like little hips like you know a little bit of the 30th just every day and he realized that I was I was doing it very quickly and he realized that I had like an interest for it so he was the one who mentioned it to me first. So I think I owe him a lot of my life like I would have never known about the heist program

that they were starting for girls and I would have not never gone and enrolled in that so I think that completely transformed my life and then of course my my full time teacher sister Aaron saagar

Shout out to her she's amazing so she's always been very supportive of everything that I've done so not just you know, in my hips, but everything I'm doing school and everything, but she was very very motivational when I was doing hives because

like she sacrificed a lot for us to she had her own two very young kids but she used to come to the masjid from 8am to like 2pm every day all days of the week she would you know, sometimes she would have to leave to like go pick up her son's from school and stuff, but like we would see the sacrifices she was making for these kids that aren't even her own just because she wanted to dedicate herself to to this greater cause live Of course I have to ask you this question what the gen Institute added to all this brightness

So like I mentioned before, I have memorized your CDs from the car.

Those those were very influential to me. I know one of them like one of them was the CD on my bad man. And the mother of men in one of the eyes were Latina.

Or the how no way the hot tub Oh, hello Jessica. Salama, yes. And when you go to school it's very hard to to walk past the halls every day being the only Punjabi and that idea is always in my head when I'm at school. Like I always think you know it's going to be okay if I just walk past and I I learned how to how to deal with those things with Salaam then everything's gonna be fine you know?

Let me translate the verse to all our viewers. I'm gonna cry very soon, but I'm going to start home hoping I'm gonna hold it. So right by the rough man in the DNA, I'm sure not allowed the homeowner with the help of the homie J. Luna calling Sarah. The real servants of Allah are those who walk on this earth, with humbleness and with tranquility. And when the ignorant talk to them, they say peace. This is how you live the Quran. Now this is how old you were when you were in high school. And Allah knows how people treated a hijab a young girl The only one right in the

state where you live and then Allah brought this idea to you to keep you going that's how we live the Quran Subhan Allah this is this is amazing and he honestly a lot of people may not even know the meaning of the site let alone to live in but what made you for example come to the weekend classes Carlos you finished your memorization now Mashallah Baraka Allah you're very bright you have you want to go to Harvard you know fulfill the dream of your mother while we can the class with Jonah Institute. Yeah, so um, throughout my course I've always been very interested in like studying Arabic and stuff like that I knew that was always like my next step. So I used to go to those

classes, like in middle school, I would go to the masjid we with my family, my whole my whole family would go we would learn like Arabic in the masjid, we would do some classes at home and stuff. But in high school, I started to get really busy. So there was a good amount of time and it happens to anyone that you start to feel like hopeless and like your mind starts to dip so you know, unfortunately during like in the very beginning of high school, when like things were still new to me and I was still trying to understand how to balance everything. like coming home. There would be a lot of days when I would come home I'd be so caught up with my homework that I wouldn't even have

time to revise my juice for the day.

So I started to realize that it was really affecting me not just like, like my schoolwork was getting done and I was doing well in school but I wasn't feeling good inside. You know, I would I was feeling like everything was kind of useless. And I was just doing it for this this like useless grade. That didn't really mean anything to me at that moment.

Because you can't see the big picture at that point. So at that point, my mom was like, like, let's do something to to like kind of provide the ceiling.

So that's when I like started doing like the, I think, but I believe it was like the best gear class from from a couple years ago. So I started doing that, which was like an online class. So I would be doing that on the weekends. And so it's like, I had this consistency where it was like, Okay, I know that I'm doing my schoolwork during the week. But then on Saturday morning, I know I can put all of that stuff down. I can forget about the dunya for a little bit. And I can focus on what's what's actually important. Why am I doing all these things, right? It's like this constant source of reassurance. I need something to make me feel like the class added to the class itself. Because a

lot of people that they feel or actually shame on make us feel that you know what, it's an online class, I can't focus. I know it all. I've done this before. What did it do to you as a 15 year old? A class of test to purification of the heart? We weren't we were studying modahaus shavonne? The the gates of shavonne. Yeah. So for me, what it really taught me was like, I think like, like no one is no one is safe in the state that there are right, like, you'd have to constantly work on your emotion. Like, it's so easy to be like, okay, I took a class last year, and now I'm done. And now I can keep going with my life. I'll remember those things. But I think it's important to like, keep

taking those classes, right? Because like I did when I was very young, but that doesn't mean that those lessons are always going to stay with me, it's important for me to revive those and take those classes again and again. Because like the class talked about, like there's so many ways where like, your heart is not always going to stay in this perfect state. You have to be doing things constantly. Where there are things there are ways that you were taking care of it right just like you take care of your physical health you take care of your mental health you had to take care of your spiritual health too, right?

Certainly lebuh took the time from all of us but I'm sure you all are enjoying as much as I am. Right literally. So I want to say one thing because her sister Jose is teaching a class in the summer it's called emotional intelligence and it is the age here you go try this what do you have to explain to us what is this and I want to leave us feedback because by the way it's a very popular class and May Allah reward you we had full but you expanded it may Allah reward you What is this class all about? It's with four goals 13 to 17 What is this

hamdulillah go ahead and again Michelle, I agree with you doctor I could definitely listen to Libby but go on and on she's just so articulate and impact of this so much passion I'm Allah increase you as far as this class and we're going to be doing Honestly, it is very reflective of some of the things that Libby was just sharing in terms of giving and cultivating and nurturing the spiritual a spiritual heart right emotional intelligence is a framework that I started studying about five years ago and as soon as I began to really look at the qualities of what how it's defined, I immediately realized this is really in a nutshell it's in a nutshell a summary of many principles of Islam and

really the prophetic way of being and they just articulated it in this five it's a scale of five different qualities that we should all try to inspire, aspire to acquire. And once you define those qualities for example, the first one is self awareness becoming you know really in tune with oneself Why are you here what is your purpose? What is the big picture right the ultimate objective of the human being Why did all that bring us here so we really are going to analyze that that and then also on a very personal level become aware of for example our temperament me's edge right those those beautiful qualities that are very specific to each of us right almost father made all of us very

unique. So getting in touch with those qualities and then of course, looking at just basic A p they're looking at what what is the design of this universe? And what is our relationship with Allah what is our relationship with what the prophets I said I'm so getting into those specifics but relating it back to this concept of self awareness which of course the popular Maxim we may be familiar with manado enough so move out of Florida who really helps you understand if you want to know your Lord, you have to start with that, you know, the starting point is yourself, then we move into self regulation, which is really about how to now control yourself, right? Because this is of

course, the schema This is a learning the diseases of the heart learning all of those learning to share, share, yeah, what are the points of fit that we should all know, so that we can be, you know, responsible citizens of this of this dunya and, and, as Olivia said, Be good ambassadors of our faith that requires us to know what is how to regulate ourselves, and then we move into motivation. So once you have that knowledge of yourself now you need to keep it up, maintain it right. As much as other people like I mentioned. We're not stagnant. We don't stay

On one station and we need to always be reminded because we're forgetful as human beings, this is part of our creation, right? insane from this year, right? We're forgetful. So that motivation comes in How do you stay self motivated? What are the messages of our faith that remind us that there is a bigger picture that we're not supposed to get caught up in this temporary ephemeral world that is fleeting, that's gonna basically disappear at one point, how do we stay self motivated, then we move into empathy, which is a critical skill. It's a prophetic quality. The problem I said, was not only the most emotionally intelligent, human being able to have existed, but certainly, he was the most

empathic and you will see this time and time again, if you study his Sierra, the way he engaged people of all different backgrounds and ages and circumstances, but also the creation of Allah, how he was so compassionate to animals, and even to power, the date palm tree, you know, so we're gonna explore this concept of empathy, and how we can distinguish it from sympathy and just kind of get into the semantics of that. And then we move into social skills. So now that you've acquired all this knowledge about self awareness, you learn how to control yourself, you're motivated, you also now are extending that compassion that Rama these are of course, qualities of attributes of a last

product, please of the process, that you extend it to other people. Now, how do you navigate human relationships, right, we're all these are some amongst some of the greatest tests that we experience in this life is the relationships that we have, it could be with our spouses, our parents, our children, our neighbors, our co workers, our employers. So learning how to hone in all of these qualities so that you can have really adequate social skills and be able to take on the different circumstances that may present so inshallah we're gonna explore all of these. And hopefully, yes, can I join or it's only up to 17. Somehow, anyone can join. Well, I would be honest, we could teach

the class after him, but we were just watching you just listen to you and learn how to become emotionally intelligent. I'll tell you what, I think I have the excellent teacher assistant for you. And I'm sure she'll say no.

I agree with you.

She is 100 almost Well, you would

you would make a

living example of emotional. Exactly.

And you know, every Tuesday I say I enjoy it, but I have to say this is the most enjoyable one I have had so far personally, and he literally gave me a lot he would do but I have to say Tanya, especially when I'm hearing your story I'm not I can't imagine a mother take her children go to Egypt. And she doesn't speak a single word of Arabic Jani I went to Japan I was born in the Middle East, and I can feel the difficulty you had let alone with children. So Panama was sacrifice and I always want to remind everybody we're Latina. jahad rufina Nadia who sabudana when Allah Allah and mazzini Allah said then select Lanka booth those who struggle for our cause we will guide them to

our way and Allah with those who does excellent Subhan Allah I will leave the law a little bit over time but that's okay. I will tell you if you want to share with everybody I don't know which class you took in john, you give us like one or two things that really you have felt john Institute have added to you I took I took two classes.

One One was with you, which was actually weighted demo with you. So the current class I always forget that I just remember this elk, you

know, it's nothing. It's learn, love, and live the Quran

about the verse. Okay, so what does that have to I just that I mean, I've done that so many times before, obviously, but what I really liked is the practical tips that you gave, there's one example that really stuck out to me. So the idea yet, so even even I'm studying Arabic the first few verses of surah idea I used to memorize the meaning and I'll keep forgetting, you know, the idea of half and Maria. And I just remember you saying, are we what we have to ask ourselves are we as good as the horses that Allah has mentioned in that in that verses, and I just it just sticks stuck to my mind. So the practical advices that you give in the Quran just stands out, makes it different from

any other causes under law. Fatima was one of the founders actually in this famous meeting 2013 in my house, so and then somehow Allah, we kept going all these years, we shared knowledge packed together, attending classes for our teachers, and then Allah brought her back and she became a teacher for us last week inshallah, we will have her back again, but I do understand. Women have also other responsibilities.

What did you mean Institute attitude or to your daughter her daughter was also one of our teachers last summer Mashallah I love her children had daughters, especially Tamara Kala mela foot homeopathy me.

So I'm

obviously like being a founder and you all have probably accurate in my voice, the passion I have for women's nonmoving in particular the team knowledge.

But I speak from my perspective of teaching, I had the opportunity to teach Islamic morals class for the girls over the summer, and then in the winter semester as well. And honestly,

teaching was very hard. For me, I found that it was an Islamic course. So what it did is, it was hard in a sense that is you teaching you have to live up to what you're teaching, you can't just preach without practice. So that's number one. But the second thing that really struck me was how the girls are so ready to stop. And they all looking out and looking for that the guidance.

So, and they're looking for guidance among women. This is what struck me is we have lots of classes, all on the Internet at the masjid at Islamic centers, everywhere. But we don't have those classes, where it's Woman to Woman, regardless of

so it's the experiential women with the young women. I think that was really special because

not that I was just teaching I was teaching them, but you learn so much from them.

They are different ages, they come in different areas and realize what they go into. At the end of the day. human behavior is the same.

Other things around them change to the end of the day, when I was a young girl, they are the same thing.

So that was really special. And I feel like that's why this woman to woman

it's ABS I cannot and I'm not saying this because it's gender Institute but I lived it before January because when I moved to gender to study at that point I did not have a woman taught me Islamic study. I had one a woman taught me medicine, and they were absolutely professors but when I moved to gender, and then I start learning almost exclusively from woman high caliber, high quality, highly qualified. All of them have followed the LLB but nobody taught me not to happen and not half of half of that they caught every part of the Quran as you as you caught a Fatiha I found that it's a completely different and when this is not about gender, but it's about reality I mean we all feel

it we feel we feel more comfortable. So 100 litre of blood I mean, you know, and I'm going to show this at the end this last weekend I was out of the state and humbler BAM in a whole weekend woman seminar. And once somebody asked me Do you think this is working?

Somebody asked me have been teaching all this time. Do you think this is working? And I immediately respond and this is a very respectable teacher. And and he said I'm asking because I really need to know how to take it from there and I said I will do Billa I am not gonna say yes because that was a cool enforcer calm, but so panela that question and then I got the email about the Beaver.

And I was like Subhan Allah, you will never know. And and this is to all women. I'm not talking about gender or myself or any of our esteemed guests, but you never know your example. What can do to someone who's five or six or seven? I don't even remember I met a beaver. Let alone your mother. I don't remember that. But here you go. One thing maybe I said and the other way also through may be something May Allah protect us something we say not nice, can push people away. So just come over here we have to stop because it's 815. And Mahara is very soon here. And we shall learn and have another meeting. Let's put it this way. Because this is really nice. 100 ledges are common law here.

For all of our handlers. It was very interesting. There was a lot of comments I don't know if you were able to see it. Any questions go ahead and check all our classes on gender Institute Sr hasami. allotey warns her opens up for more people who have an amazing ta I already decided she will not say no inshallah. Or be mean. And then I'll also humbler Blimey have way more we have memorization we have leading and of course, our Islamic studies on the weekend. We have to we're going to learn about the hellfire. We need to remember our Acura as our beautiful young *y reminded us in the beginning. So there is a whole class about the Hellfire and another class is about woman of

knowledge there

There is a lot of examples of women we don't know and you will be absolutely stunned to know about them. Does that Kamala Harris everyone May Allah reward you. May Allah protect you all on your children and May Allah use you as a way to spread his knowledge and people look at you and follow you along my stamina now Allah tested dinner euro biani subhanak locomobi Hamdi I showed you earlier and I stopped Furukawa to booty some Allahu Allah say Nam Hama while early he was happy to Sleeman kathira