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Islam’S Perspective On Homosexuality

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Bilal Philips

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This will

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be on the last message.

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In a previous class, we looked at separation of the sexes,

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Islam, the spread by the sword,

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the idea of Muslim farming sex life.

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And this graph, actually, we'll be looking at the criminal law, criminal law, which is generally speaking,

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identified as being particularly brutal, you know, because of the fact that the adults are stoned to death.

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For the kids were given on your lashes, feeds and the cut off of the wrist, you know, those who are

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breaking drunk at lashes. These are public executions that take place. So this already looking at but before looking at that

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one of your classmates has an issue that you'd like to raise for discussion, and that is the issue of homosexuality from that perspective,

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okay, from from Islamic perspective, the second one homosexuality, first and foremost, before looking at it. One can look, for example, in Christianity was received Islam, and which Islam holds as being fundamentally the basis of Jesus's teachings were the same teachings that Prophet Muhammad brought, they were both prophets of God, and they found the same basic teachings. And before, both Jesus and Mohammed needed, both of them. There were other prophets.

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David, Moses, such Abraham, they're all thought bases and teaching. Now in Mosaic law, the law is as well

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documented in the Torah, the Old Testament, especially the first five books of the Old Testament is generally referred to as disorder, you will find

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rulings made on homosexuals.

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And the ruling there is that it is something simple.

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It is something where the person who practices this should be killed.

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Furthermore, the story of Sodom and Gomorrah, which was supposed to be in the towns where profit loss

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was

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a sign that those people were destroyed for their deviation, saddam, the word Sodom came into criminal law as bodily

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sodomy, which, which is considered a crime, actually, even though today in many

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countries.

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sodomy remains something which is known to be nothing evil, something despicable. It

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literally bothered me. I don't know if you know, but I mean,

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the department

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I mean, fatherly is a is a basically defined as anal sex.

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Right? I mean, this is obviously coming from the part of the male,

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particularly in the case of two males, and then there was a practice of homosexuality. Right?

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in the Koran. Before I'm confirmed the story of the people have blocked they call home loose, and so in Arabic, called loose becomes synonymous with homosexual, the word for homosexuals.

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Right? Originally it was vitually should mean a follower of mine. That doesn't just mean

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a homosexual.

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And the destruction of the people

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proper route through Bob Lutz was

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describing the plan. And it is described here that they prefer, you know, relations among the male, male to male female females instead of male female relationships.

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Just made clear that it is an issue of homosexuality and this is a crime for which God destroyed

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so

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It is looked at as a sin, a crime, according to Islamic law, one who is caught in the act.

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Exactly.

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According to standard law,

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that's the

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topic.

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I mean, you want to work. The modern view, of course, I think we spoke about this before that, I mean, this was the general you will have by the world, up until the last 25 years, 2025 years, when, in the West, in particular, in Indian America, especially in America, homosexuals, joined in the freedom,

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life movement. Now, remember, I spoke in the previous class about the Black Power movement, where black Americans were seeking their rights in the 50s, or the 60s, they were burning out too demanding their rights. Now, they got at least on paper, and asserting confirmed rights for themselves, and following them with the women's rights movement, because they are joined in and supported this number of routes and joints. And so then their movement came to the forefront. And following the women's rights movement, which is now the late 60s or 70s.

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Women demanding equal pay for equal work and you know, protection against male harassment and all this kind of thing. Then, what followed, that was the

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gay rights movement.

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homosexuals in western terminology, are referred to as gays you know, like a

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term which is used. There are different slang terms with in England, they're called posters, and where that name came from, again,

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in American terminology, they also use the term fat on fat is the name used to refer to homosexuals.

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Of course, you know, this is where one has to be

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also versed in the different terminology, because in England, that bag is a cigarette.

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And number America affected the homosexual so you know, you have to add a flag to the American

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circumstance. Anyway, the point is that,

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as I said, in general, society looks at homosexuality as a crime, homosexual practice, they have they refer to it as in the closet, that many people who would pretend to be heterosexual, they got married, they had kids, but really, they're homosexual, I don't know another life, another hidden life, from the society. But in the 70s, they started coming out of the closet, and more of them started to identify themselves, they were parading the streets demanding their rights also, and eventually, you know, they exerted such an influence on Western society Western policies, that

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from the medical profession, their illness was removed from the categories eliminated. And as I think I mentioned to you before, those people who are afford to homosexuals are now classified as being

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homophobic, right.

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So, you know, beyond that, and they also became necessary. I mean, in politics, any politician who expressed any kind of opposition.

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I remember, there was one female

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politician in

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Florida,

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but she had expressed some opposition, and the whole country, you know, went haywire always. And,

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you know, eventually she even locked her position in first of all position, and she became sort of lost

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in the media, no more position, etc. And it can so much, so much became an issue that as you mentioned, before, you know, Bill Clinton had to make a commitment to homosexuals,

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for his election, and this was you're gonna find now Vince is fine.

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With that, and from there on in all of the candidates, all the people seeking office have to openly give their commitment for homosexual just as they are to openly give you a commitment for the Jewish call. That's a standard, no presidents of the last

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1520 years.

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gotten in without making open his commitment to protecting the State of Israel. That's just a part of American policies now. Similarly, now, protecting and promoting homosexual rights has become a part of the political scene in America.

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Beyond that,

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I mean, of course, if we look at this, relative to democracy and the principles of secular democracy, it makes them quite miserable and white hair of the masses of the people agree that it's okay, then what's the problem? Of course, from insider perspective, it's not an issue, we don't decide if it's right and wrong, according to the opinion of the masses of the people, what God has defined as being wrong or evil, remains evil, right? This is something which is unchangeable, it doesn't change according to

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moment.

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It doesn't change according to

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the way the fancies of society at any given point in time.

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So there will never come a time.

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As far as

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I could possibly project from an Islamic perspective, there will never come a time where a an Islamic Society will accept homosexuality is an

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acceptable practice. Now, it may become prevalent,

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or it may exist in some societies, in other forms, or in different variations, because, to be quite honest,

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in Saudi Arabia, for example, and I don't, I can't speak about the Gulf

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here, but I know, in Saudi Arabia, you know, there, there there is, there has been, over the past years a rise in homosexual activity among the Saudis themselves, our views, and it is not to put down the desire to live there, and I don't have anything against Cyprus to say that this is something real, you know, something that cannot be denied. And that may also be the case amongst them or it used to, I don't know, but, I mean, I know personally, because of the fact that you know, my son went to school,

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an Arabic Arabic school, he did absolutely High School in Arabic. And you know, he used to come back and tell me, you know, different things, which was going on in the school, you know, he was approached by

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other students lecture, right. And, I mean, I mean, he was, he made it function very clearly, you know, broke a few noses, knowing the blockers, but it became very clear to people that he was interested in this activity at all,

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but,

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but, the point is that it was there, I mean, on a personal level, but also was there in the society also known to me in the psyche, because people also spoke to me about it, doubted us

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and

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I did see a difference between what was taking place there, and what may be taking place here, and that which is in say, America, right, and England, and other European countries, where homosexuality is in fact, really a choice, where a person has other options, they could be heterosexual, there are, you know, you can buy women is readily available in the society, you know, the, you know, free love of color or free sex sex with people have relations with outside of marriage is prevalent. So, when a person chooses to be a homosexual in America or in England, they're doing it you know, this is this is a way of life they have chosen. Now, in in places like Saudi Arabia,

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what has happened, because of the fact that in the last

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20 to 25 years, the

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the galleries have sort of gone into the into huge numbers, where the average user is not able now to get married as he should have at a reasonable age.

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And at the same time,

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this society has opened itself to

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a heavy level or high level of sexuality, through the media,

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through the media, whether it be the magazines or the videos or whatever. So there they are, high level of sexuality, present in this environment, on that plane. So you

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A number of them have taken this once in a row to fulfill their desires of ignorance, in the lack of of Islamic instruction, they have taken this route. But the difference is that these values are a certain age, age of the late 20s, when they are finally accumulated enough to get married, then in most cases, they give up that activity, they get married and carry on. So, it's not a way of life chosen as like, this is what I'm going to leave as what I am and, you know, it's, it is more

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more similar to the people choosing the route of masturbation instead of instead of fasting as Islam as described for young people who are unable to get married that they should find. Now,

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other

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maybe many will not take you the first thing obviously, is going to be limited to face

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to face face, when you find when you divide by yourself food and drink, etc. And those have to do with person God. So, it has a youth, you know, your face is shaky, you know, your

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Muslim name or whatever, when these options are put in front of you.

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So, the tendency will be among a number of us to, to choose to masturbate, and that homosexuality, homosexual activity, which comes along with Islam, so this kind of this kind of

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choice, based on the pressures which are put on the use by the society

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and also

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the rioting, for example, lesbianism

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there has been a similar rise and lesbians

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in case you don't know, what lesbian means,

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find that

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you know,

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arrive is arrived also in lesbianism, you know, because of the fact that we you know, corresponding to the rising gallery, were a number of women are not able to get married, you know, marriages been delayed etc, or they may not get married at all. And of

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course, this is rising development in society. And this has been a response to as I said, rising

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rising powers is one of the major factors

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were put out there's also the say in the case of less than two.

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Oftentimes, some cases less villager may be responsible from bad

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experiences with mailings, that, you know, males, being insensitive, and dealing with females may leave that impression gumbos female who find female companionship in a much more

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comfortable than male companionship.

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You want to say something

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fighting

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masturbation is considered by some scholars to be haram

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by a majority parama dislike something particularly disliked.

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Well, the evidence there is no clear evidence from the Quran and Sunnah to classify the Torah right? What there is is circumstantial or, you know, deduce rulings in that, you know, Allah for example, describes in the soil rough man about the rough man right, describing the worshipers of Allah as those who protect their private parts, you know, from abuse or use except with their wires. So,

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by saying that it is implying that any other usage is not a an acceptable usage. So, they view this as sort of

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deduce evidence, but I would say in general, would you have to say that it is something disliked, meaning if you didn't do it, if a person had an urge to do it that way.

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They didn't do it, they are rewarded.

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They're rewarded, God considers that to be an act of righteousness for which you are rewarded. If a person does not control himself or herself and falls into that practice, then

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it is not sinful, but it is being engaged in something which is dislike

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something which could, because the area of mukou the dislike this area is an area where a person will involve themselves, much in it eventually fall into

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the area of mapu is sort of like a buffer zone between the halau you know, the things of the better things and the good things are recommended, etc. And the prohibited things are sinful.

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No, I mean, people give names to it like mikako yet, right.

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This is

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just terminology.

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marrying your hand

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made him the impression that it is similar to kidnap or fornication.

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I mean, the point is that the issue is what the issue is a question of evidence, as you said, some people say yes, some people say no, in the end, you have to look over the evidence. Now, because the issue, the category of something being classified as Haram is not, you know, an arbitrary category where, you know, it depends on how I feel, I feel this way, so, I'm going to call it salam, he feels that way. So he calls it Hello, no, it has to do there, there are principles behind it. There are legal principles, and the to classify something as being around it has to have been clearly prohibited by law or buy.

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Go back, where did you put the paper deception paper?

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You gave it all to him.

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Okay.

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Okay, to go and pick it up from registration and do it or just forget it?

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Yeah, the point is that

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defining something as being harm, there are principles behind it.

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There are principles behind it prohibited in the Koran, or in the statements of the Prophet, or some punishment has been assigned to it in Sharia law on the sign that something is wrong, or there is a punishment. Not only

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that, in this world, there's no punishment. But as a punishment is defined in the next world, you know, a person's going to be in hell because of this and the other, for example, like interest dealing in interest, there's no punishment in this world. And likewise, nobody's Lastly, nobody's you know, punished in an interesting way back in the next slide, the process may be fine described the one who deals in interest as as swimming in a

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lake of blood, you know, and that people will be throwing these rocks into the horse's mouth, you know, something like that. This is

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a person who is dealing in interest, okay. And also problems as Alan had said that

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interest has over 70 branches. And the simplest

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of the branches dementia is equivalent to insert to a man having sex with his mother.

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So that is indicating for us.

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So there has to be some kind of evidence like that, of course, one a question, for example, in the case of cigarettes, okay. There's some difference of opinions regarding cigarettes as cigarettes alarm or is mapu. You know,

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moku, long time ago,

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a long time ago,

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cigarettes

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was ruled as mfu moku, meaning disliked.

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But this ruling was given about 500 years ago, 500 years ago when tobacco first came to

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the Muslim world to Turkey. Right. We've talked about this before. Yeah. Okay. So you know, this ruling was made, then today, we have other knowledge, which indicate that smoking causes cancer. And we know then that anything which we take, which can kill us, according to Islamic laws is prohibited. So the ruling of Haram is now placed on it wasn't an arbitrary ruling based on knowledge, because our knowledge

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will change in time. So information about a particular product or company may cause rulings to change from being harmless to harmful time is defined or founded.

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To work in insurance. What if the system is a, you know, Western style insurance,

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then the practice of insurance is itself considered to be

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even even the insurance of objects where we're not following Islamic principles. Right, where the insurance is, the money our game, by way of

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insure, you know, the money is put in banks and the interest accrues from that is what increases your overall capital. And this is what you're getting out of, then it still remains

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dealing with meaning dealing with the interest dealing problems, as Oliver said, that they are for people who are similar in in in the dealing of insurance. Right, they said the one page this one repeat this, the one draws up the capital contracts, and the one who witnesses the contract by themselves?

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Well, as I said, if the if there's dynamic insurance schemes that are available, you do it through this type of insurance, if there are not, and transportation is one of your basic needs in society, right? Where the society obliges us to deal with interested in insurance in order to use the car, then you do it to that degree. So what you do is when you take our coverage, for example, is you don't take our full coverage.

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You don't take our covers, just make up the minimum what is the absolute minimum that you can take out to fulfill the requirements of the state of the gods?

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Okay, anybody have any other comments they want to make with regards to the

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previous topic?

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Okay.

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All right, take a break.

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Now,

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the next topic, if

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any of you didn't have any particular topic you want to raise I'll go on to the topic of crime and punishment.

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Crime and Punishment.

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Another topic you'd like interject yourself.

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Okay.

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Okay, okay

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with an issue, which is important to always look at it, this has to do with the issue of imaging,

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Islamic proliferation of images, generally speaking, you know,

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looking at it from the outside, look at it as being very conservative in this matter, with the idea of taking images and having images,

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especially those who are classified, quote, unquote, as fundamentalist, you know, who are against the issue of images. Now, to understand the issue of images, one has to go back to the,

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to the previous

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shopping in the laws, which were stated by Prophet Moses, you know, this is supposed to the CDC from God, call the 10 commandments, among the 10 commandments is a clearer vision of making any images of any living beings.

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Prophet Muhammad, peace, be upon him had said that, the one who would receive the most severe punishment of the Day of Judgment would be the picture makers, and

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he described them as receiving the most severe punishment and the Day of Judgment,

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right, and they will be sold,

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they will be told to put life into the objects that they had created.

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Of course, they will not be able to do so, it will be a means of humiliation, they will be humiliated on the Day of Judgment, in that they will be commanded to bring these things to life, and they will not be able to do so.

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Now,

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Mohamed Vega also clarified

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why there is this point efficient and

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effective

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explaining is shopton the findings were

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references made to idols of Russian

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wide swath, Yahoo, Yahoo, these names are meant to read the pirate ship. Anyway, it explains that these which have become idol worship, in the time of the Prophet were originally

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good people, right, the people in the time of Prophet nor

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the time of profit, they were righteous people were known for the writer. And after they died,

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Satan had come to the people to their communities,

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and suggested to them to make images of these people to remind them of their life,

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to get to them to make images, statues, etc. and place them in the places where they used to sit,

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the gathering place meeting place, places by their grave surrounded by the areas that they're known to have contact with people. And

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with this rationale that when they do it, and they will TVs it will remind them of these rights of people and thereby remind them of righteousness. And they did it.

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And in their time, it used to remind them, they would see the images remember the person and the license. However,

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generations later,

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when the people with generations that came afterwards didn't know what was the purpose,

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any longer of these objects. But just the people gathered by these objects, adore these objects, you know,

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and leave

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space and then came back and introduced to these people that these objects were really worshipped by your forefathers. And it was because of their worship, that the rain would come to crops would be fertile and good. And so the people began shifting from iteration to actual worship. And this is how idolatry began. This is what the prophet explained.

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So from that we can deduce that the phony vision the primary for the vision of future nations,

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is

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because of this relationship to ideology, and this is factual. If you go around the world today to the various pagan systems in the world today, you'll see that they're all using anything, whether it is images of of animals or images of people or whatever it is about worshipping images.

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So

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I'm going to go through.

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So just looking at it initially, how it was in the past, in the past is with carving, painting, drawing statues, these are the images without images in the past, okay? And it is on the basis of this.

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And why we don't have in our places of worship, any images and traditionally Muslim home, architecture etc. Images didn't play a role images of living beings didn't play a role trees, you know, our use of flowers and things like this in different design motifs, especially if we're you know, there was no objection, the way it came to animals creatures, this was there was a

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permission across the board.

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Now, in modern times, and this is also why you find if you go to a synagogue,

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which is the place of worship temple, they don't have any images of people or animals, three of them.

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And in fact, for many years after the time of crisis,

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the use of images in worship for Christians are prohibitive. And there was a there was a particular period of time, which was known as the iconoclast movement, you know, where those who use some of the fields knows who wants to use images and against those who didn't. Eventually, the image, though, the favorite use of religious images, one, and then they started using images of Christ on the crop, Mary is saying that that's I became a heavy heavy focus on images, images in worship, and became a focus for worship

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data, but in the initial stages, was credited for hundreds of years.

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More

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they have

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a job with another life widely used pictures of Jesus, images of Jesus and they worship.

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The point the point of the matter is,

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eventually they won because because the Emperor at the time, supported those who are at war for use of images. That's why they won not because their argument defeated the other side because they had military mic behind them, and their movements became

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electric.

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Lamia was

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one of my friends.

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Anyway.

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The issue of images in whatever people's intent, obviously,

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intent doesn't make something which is prohibited, permissible.

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This is a mistaken approach that people say God prohibited this thing. We cannot come along and say well, I have a good intention is for this purpose investors as long as the president is ready to finish now. What

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What is presently an issue amongst Muslims in the Muslim world is whether photography is included now in image making? This is what the issue? Is our photograph all the technological advancements in the making of images? Or are they in another category, some toddlers role that it's just an extension disease. In fact, sometimes you did it with your hand and do it like this, now we set the button and you produce the same thing. You know, it's just such a technological advancement in the process of making images. You know, just like for example, you know, you can design a computer program, where you

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where you punch in and, and, and make an image on the computer, and then that image is transformed, can you connect to a machine that can carve or can mold, it will make an object just like what you mean,

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even though as you're putting it on the computer originally are just zeros and one, you know, in the end, it comes out with an image. So,

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they got it according to the end product is an image

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an image of a human being or an animal or whatever. And this is only the technological advancement. Other scholars actually the majority hold that because in another category, it is more similar to mirror, an image in a mirror.

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And even though the candidates for example, photograph in general, they tend to permit television,

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they will permit the images which are portrayed on television. But the fact of the matter is that these images are big one film is very still images that are running at a particular rate, which gives the illusion of movement. So at the end, it's all one ratio is what is happening in the process of making an image a photograph, that light captures on paper,

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right, treated with certain chemicals. And the image which is there the actual image,

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the image is actually there is thought to alencar from the paper produce, what is on the paper is what was out there basically, an a copy of

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the human hand is not directly involved in this process, where a photograph is retouched. There is an airbrush, for example, take a picture for your passport picture, and they use an airbrush, and they remove your pimples and hippos and things that you know, now you're looking very smooth and you know, whatever, then this becomes a painting, this becomes equivalent now to that, painting the drawings,

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no longer in that other category.

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Now, the question arises,

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why in modern time people, even those who are actually making images, carving drawings to capital, you know, when brands and things like this, why should we consider these things to be harassed? Well, the fact of the matter is that the two people idolize

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the way that people look at, you know, Leonardo da Vinci's Mona Lisa, things

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that they don't say

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they have,

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you know, worship can take many different forms. The point is, the point is that if you sell one of these art lovers, right, the average art lover, you tell a lizard, you know, the Louvre

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Museum in France is going to burn down, right? You're in there. And there's more or less. There's a little bit here, but it's run out. You can only take one, right? Which are you going to say? Yep, tell you in a minute. I'll take the Mona Lisa. Why? Because maybe you can all get another baby.

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Lisa

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Kennedy, anybody comes at me with anything, then that love that kind of love that I think becomes Forbidden Love

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and painting and drawing these kind of these art. They invite people to that and if you listen to how the artists speak, what their goals are, they'll tell you, you know, I want to create something larger than life. Just put it like this larger than life.

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something greater than what actually exists. There is a desire on their part to create the issue of creation

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and its chapters people understand the challenges

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graduation. So the point is that

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photograph is for the majority of scholars with all the photographs are permissible, they're fine as long as they're kept in a

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particular status not of being elevated to adoration, where they come up with posters now of your favorite pop star in black on your wall. And when you idolize them, it becomes not forbidden. If you take photographs of your parents and blow them up, put them up on your wall, and you know, and they become big

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images for adoration, that is also forbidden

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to be adored, oh, look at

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this kind of attitude towards

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a nice picture. You know what a nice picture people come to your home, you want them to bring them over to look at it here.

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I'm telling you, according to Islamic law to set it up on the walls to put it up to be seen, especially above the Atlantic gloss.

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Because the adoration of these images, leaves ultimately leads ultimately to forms of worship, they become worship. If you look at the image of Canadian

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Canadian Iran, where Khomeini's image everywhere becomes an object of worship.

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That is,

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but he wasn't taken to the final end. The point is that in a static perspective, things will lead with you stop them

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well you don't want to see it I mean if you keep it in an album

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Okay, hold on a minute.

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How does this prevent the angel from coming in the home Prophet Muhammad mega has said the angels will not enter homes in the sky images home and

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there are images hung and Dong

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was the

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Prophet Mohammed said

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I didn't know that it was a

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non prayer This is just what the profit

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No no, no, no.

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It's just that that angel that list is a very desire by

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the angels of mercy okay? The the angels of mercy that may accompany these angels will not enter the home, whether images home and dog projects, okay, but angels that record your deeds, recording the deeds of your prayers so they're

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they're there.

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Another issue you want to talk about cats and dogs

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Okay, I will tell you some images right before we go into another topic, I would say is on images

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and images

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because these are carvings of human beings or animals.

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But what has been specifically prohibited living creatures, animals and human beings

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it's okay picture of the mountain scenery, building drawings and building

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permits.

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To present an album is not in a way it is not given. setup is set up with the thing behind it propping it up, you know,

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it become it becomes a form of hanging in the form of setting it up for visually.

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It's not an issue. It's not an issue.

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Come on. We're gonna discuss it next.

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Talking what I'm talking

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about.

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The point is,

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the point is in terms of images in worship, the issue is not for pregnancy, I am not worshiping it, because, for example, I would fail gay here, I want to get, you know, I went to the fire, you know, when I was in Thailand, Cambodia, and I found this beautiful statue of Buddha,

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Buddha, Buddha.

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I really like it. So I'm doing the visit to my home is my home, not to worship. But my intention to worship is just for decoration.

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The statue of Buddha

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understand.

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So I understand the reasoning, I'm trying to give you this line of reasoning.

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The point is that keeping that statue This is an object of worship for other people, for us for you to keep it in your home for decoration is not acceptable.

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Even though your intention is only decoration about worship that act.

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So you don't use your intention to justify what is good for images. What is the benefit is the hanging up images.

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so keeping point is either

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you're not allowed to keep us as a child, boys are allowed to you, you know, up until puberty after that's finished.

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That permission is only given for children are grown up

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with no other child playing with it, okay?

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treat them as decoration if that's your as an adult.

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It's not permissible

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as an adult,

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as an adult,

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if it is a toy car,

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or

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the point, the point is, it's just like, let me give you another example.

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Decided follows that in the case of alcohol,

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okay, alcohol is in transit. Now, there are some people who drink alcohol, they get drunk, and they do all kinds of times they come, you know, they cause accidents, they, you know, rape people, all kinds of stuff. He stated his application. But then there are some people who only take small amounts, their own agenda, for example, on Sunday with a Sunday meal, they have a little drop of wine, you know, helps you to digestion. So there was a Why Why are you Why are you going to produce it for us? We're not using it for anything, you don't get intoxicated with it. The point is that, because of the harm that is involved with Islam is prohibited right across the board.

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Right across the board. Okay?

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It's the same thing with with images. Because how many people in this world today are involved in worshipping other than God, on the basis of these images? This is how dangerous the images are, they take so many of so much of mankind. So to go, the point is that this is why this is great. It is not by Islam, in the sense that Mohammed came and he graduated, may God be upon him by Islam, I understood to be the militia of Adam until today. Yes, Prophet Moses in his teachings, you know, 10,000 years ago, 15 20,000 years ago, it was revealed that these images are credited. So believe that this is from God. This is from God is the reason is it whether you know, you may have your own

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life, you know, I like this thing. You know, I, I feel I'm attracted to it. This is my habit, I get pleasure out of it.

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I mean, it's just about your pleasure, what you get pleasure out of, because if you're gonna use that as your your means of objectifying what

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rights and wrongs? And what about those other people in the society get pleasure out of hurting other people? Or, you know, harming them, etc? Where do you draw the line, to the point is a line as drawn by God, if it's drawn by God

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and accept that it is for the better, the better than not only of us as individuals, but also the society as a whole.

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is the bottom line.

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Up

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Guys,

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in terms of

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a good example of, you know, in the case of Syria,

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Syria,

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you should know, in any case that happened after you know, belong to a group called the military.

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There they are, they follow another religion.

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You know, they're the ruling family, you know, they are their clan, they rule in control period, a massive series of workers who need glasses. But after after his clan, if you go and read about what is it they believe, they believe in astrology, they believe that Muhammad was God incarnate.

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So was

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God incarnate. And so a man will fight if they have a trinity that they worship. They believe God became Muhammad was God incarnate. So they got another religion.

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Maybe the server is used loosely to summon a lot of different people, but the inhabitants and he said their group they call the military, even the Shiites on Iran, the former Vietnam Korea, they from way back had declared the alluvion are the necessary to be electrical to the outside.

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It's only a Khomeini, who we accepted them, link up with them to the destruction of the requirements of the morning movement in Syria. We accept them in the polls are shy, but actually they've been declared as what they call the

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three branches of the CIA, which the Shiite themselves considered to be non Muslims.

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We'll begin

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arrow arrow represents the pharaoh represents idolatry.

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For you to take the symbol is forbidden in Islam is forbidden to take the symbol.

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But what happens though, when you keep it as a souvenir you admire

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or whatever you're admiring.

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But what you admire admirers, what are you admiring? Here? You're admiring an image of

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admiring an image of veganism?

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It is

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image which has been created is created that you created.

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image which you have created is a composition of other images that you have seen.

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You cannot create what doesn't exist, what your mind is what you're not seeing with your eyes. This is what when you as a painter when you put something together, you're going to put it together from scene to scene. So yeah, you are creating an image here, an image built in pieces and parts of other parts of the living part of creation.

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is imaginary,

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imaginary, but you're involved.

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Let's, let's take this one step.

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take it one step

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before

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am I trying to convince you that everything that you're doing in your life around