Interview With Arifa Muzaffar – The Month of Muharram

Abdul Wahab Salim is a Canadian Islamic scholar. Mashallah mahbub inky father his father is professionally an engineer.

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I'm doing very well and it's a pleasure to be here with you. Thank you very much gentlemen. I called you son Maddie Jamal must have reservations because you always think I refer cannot have a pious son. My son is very pious and I have pious sons like Abdul Wahab because I am always ready to learn from people like himself him and that is the reason they are invited here. It's a beautiful month and this month of Ramadan and I brother of mine month, the month of Mara Mara mala Rama, Rama Rama, the first month of our Islamic calendar. Before we started the program, a brother of mine called and when I was saying that dunya COVID. You Mahara may i a TA has a

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So firstly, when when we speak about the calendar, the Islamic calendar as a whole,

we have to keep in mind that Allah subhanaw taala encouraged us to keep a calendar that is distinct and it happens to be a lunar calendar. That's something that Allah spoke about quite distinctly and napoleonics told us that they're asking you about the different positions of the moon. Tell them that those positions are meant to give you dates. So Allah subhanaw taala encouraged in that that the dates should be done.

Through a lunar calendar. Now, this was the calendar that was followed by,

you know, early Muslims and early people all around because it's an easy calendar to follow when when we consider just being able to see the different stations of the moon through the naked eye. And for that reason, it's very encouraged for every Muslim to have some sort of connection to this calendar, the Add calendar, okay? And so kind of

this hijiri calendar, the more a Muslim is connected to his faith, the more he will somehow be connected to the surgery calendar as well. Because all of our actions that are related to our acts of worship, they're all related to this hijiri calendar. Right? And that's at the start of this history calendar is in the month that we happen to be in right now. Which is the month of Ramadan, and about how long Allah subhanaw taala alludes to Muslim in one place in the Quran in surah, adobo and he says in the tertiary and the life natural Sharon, Vicki tabula, that the months of the months according to Allah subhanaw taala, happened to be 12 months, according to the decree of Allah

subhanaw taala. This was decreed the day Allah created the heavens and the earth, from them for happened to be home, they happen to be sacred. So one of the sacred months is the month that we happen to be and then that's the month of Ramadan. And this is where Allah subhanaw taala makes an address to us and tells us of these very, very uniquely sacred months now, what does it mean that they're sacred? This is an important question. What does it mean that these ones happen to be sacred? What it means is that Allah will increase the reward of any good that a person does during these months.

And that Allah Subhana, Allah will increase also the punishment for any evil that a person does during God periods. So every time Allah makes something sacred, whether it be time or place, okay? What happens is the reward increases, and also the punishment increases, if you do wrong, get ready to get more preparation, punishment, because there's more sacredness that Allah subhanaw taala is placed in this right. So let me just ask you a question that I think that every Muslim will automatically have an answer to, if someone has a Haram in mind lapadula someone decides to do something like drinking, okay? So he has this he or she has this harm in mind if they take this

harm, and they do it in Mecca.

Already, just by hearing the word Macau, we feel like the guilt should be a lot more. Right. Right. Because a lie is made Makkah more sacred, there's more sacredness that Allah has attached to this earth, this land. So because of that, and through that, we can realize what we're trying to say about time over here, just as Allah has made places which are sacred, similarly, Allah has also made time which is sacred as well. Now, if a person is in a time which is sacred, but not in a place which is sacred, then the reward is going to be to a certain degree, but then the time is sacred and also the place is sacred someone is in Muslim studies may have been you know from someone is in

Holland for instance. And here they have they have the opportunity to be in Mecca at the same time and they do their their fasting or they do their a Baghdad in Mecca in Mahabharata Of course now the reward will be just that much higher Exactly. Similarly the punishment also becomes more as well if someone is in the month of Muharram or either in the month of Ramadan for instance, which is also a sacred period and they do something which is held inside of backup raids for instance again the punishment will also increase as well. So this is what it means when Allah subhanho wa Taala says mean house or bathroom home from them happen to be four which are which are home now what are these

four which are home that are sacred

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so three to Tommy is it mentioned and it's a detail all these details are mentioned in sorted to Dover, but they say this as a phrase to remember three are linked to each one one after another and reserve is our job is by itself Exactly. This is not to be by the way mixed with another three months, months, which are the months of the hedge. Okay. Often these two are confused where the three of hedge which happened to be

chawan Rocha and the first 10 day of the 10 days of the puja. So these are often confused with these so they're not to be confused, although they overlap as you can see right there the over overlap, but they're not the same. They're not one in the same. They're not to be confused with each other and of course, even Shawan even

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hedger all of them have their own virtual as well. But they're not to be confused. Those are a shouldered hedge the months of hedge. These are the months which are secret that Allah subhanaw taala made a special sacred vest. And by the way, this is something that is not specifically in our religion, because probably during the during the time of Ibrahim Ali Sam, also they used to consider these sacred months. How do we know this? Well, firstly, because Allah tells us in the Koran that the monster 12 from them are four which are sacred. This was the day in which Allah created the heavens and the earth. Okay, so you said all of this happened went on the day, and

that's the first thing. Second thing is that the Arabs also the pagan Arabs, they used to also consider these monks very sacred, and that's why they wouldn't initiate war during these months, in the early time, okay, but then later on that rule of not initiating more within these months that became abrogated in Islam, but the sacredness of these months, it remained. So this is the sacred so these months now, within these months of courses, the first of them is out of them. The first of them in terms of the calendar year is his problem. And the prophet SAW said let me said to us in an authentic hadith in Sahih, Muslim he said that of Lola crme, better Shatila Milan, Chateau la Liddy

to their own home on the best of fasting, after the month of Ramadan is the month of Allah which you which you refer to as Allah. So not just Ashura, because a lot of us only know about Acura rather, the entire month is an opportunity for us to fast, the best that one can do is ninth and 10th or 10th, or 11th. But it's better to fast Allman if you're able to. And this is the best opportunity to fast outside of Milan, according to the hadith of Bora Bora. And according to the statement of the prophets of Salaam, himself, where he said the best of fast after the fasting of Ramadan is the fast that of the month, which you refer to as shadow law, and in the month of a law which is sacred. Now,

there's another very important thing over here. Notice the Prophet said let me call this month not just a month of Allah, the month of Allah subhanaw taala. So every time in the Quran or the Sunnah, when something is connected or attributed to Allah subhanho wa Taala it's meant to do so to increase its status and that's why when a lot talks about in the story of the Napa, the she camel, he says Napa de la de Napa de la This is the she camel of Allah subhanho wa Taala similarly, when we refer to the house of Allah, the beta of a lot of gabbeh we say house of Allah it's not literally the house of Allah such that Allah resides there effort. It's simply supposed to raise the status of

this similarly that she camels, you know to raise this the six sacred vessels actually kept the camel the camel which is mentioned in Quran deikun Shankar de Yes, of course, the Kikuchi guard, the NT, e concept profit server Professor likova gunky, only those who seek me any luck, you

know, I learned something new today. One thing is, can I ask you a question? Okay, now like Shaggy, Misha beach, Mr. Boucher, you said that Muharram of course is because a Kuru Khurana Park we had four sacred months because the grand the heaven and earth was created on this this month was meant as a de Brahim to be up netlink here, but this hijiri calendar was founded in years 622 it starts from the time when Prophet peace be upon him he traveled from Makkah masala to Medina back.

So but these months, but the people aware even before that, about these stomach, he can under No. Okay, so the months were the month of the herbs they were used to these months. But the difference that happened was that one of the practices that the Arabs had was they would sometimes play around with the order of the months.

They would play around with the orders of the month and what does that mean? What that means is that sometimes because of the fact that Allah had forbidden initiating war, or let's put it this way, because of the fact that the Arabs at that time believed it was impermissible to initiate War During these four months, okay. What they would do is if they wanted to initiate or they would play around and swap the order.

Okay, so there was a lot of that swapping happened and during the time of the profits SLM, he actually mentioned to us in a hadith that, that on this day, the

The time has come back to its original essence, meaning the way that Allah had ordered the months, that order has come back, and that's why that reordering occurred and it remained that way till till today. So that was the difference. Otherwise, they knew these ones, the names of them. Were

known to the Arabs and in fact some of them in fact all of them come from Arab culture the names okay so these were even before that but from years 620 to

posit nama name my key was given to pick up status in Camilla Catherine Thank you very much. Of course there's also another thing to point out over here there is another Hijri calendar as well and that is the aegd roomie calendar. Okay, but that hijiri roomie calendar is not the HV lunar calendar, it's the Hijri solar calendar. So, in our times a lot of Muslim countries around the world have adopted the the Gregorian calendar saying that the problem with the Hijri calendar is you never know how long the month will be because the lunar cycle changes from year to year, month to month and so forth, right. So, to solve that problem, the Ottoman Empire had introduced the Hijri solar

calendar which is 30 which is today in here 1300 something right now. Okay, so that calendar is still around, and that remained as a as an official calendar within the Ottoman Empire. But it was a solar calendar. And I go back to the point that a lot actually encouraged us to use a lunar system. Okay, this is in the Quran itself.

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a short amount, no matter a shorter hedge or the months of, of hedge. When you asked me about the the default deal or the virtue of this month, I forgot to mention a couple of important things. One of them is that

that not only is this month virtuous to us as Muslims this month is also virtuous to previous nations nations as well. And not only is the day of actual virtuous to us as Muslims, rather, it's also virtuous to previous stations as well. So we know that in the story of the prophets of Allah, it was said to him that he used to fast the day of actual law, even prior to the Age of Law, even prior to migrating. And we know that even the Arabs the orange, they used to also fast the deal of Ashura, even prior to the migrate even prior to the migration of the Prophet and their acceptance of Islam, of course, right. This is something that's recorded in Sofia and Buhari, the most authentic

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when the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam moved to Medina, then Allah had given him another prescription and that is fast the month of Ramadan. So then, at that point, also in authentic hadith, at that point, the companions and then the Prophet is Elon himself. Everyone was told, don't worry about Ashura. Go ahead and

The month of Ramadan because this is your obligation at this junction. But what happened next was the profits are suddenly met some of the Jews, and he noticed that they were fasting on this day. So he literally asked them as found in Sahib near ban, he literally said, murder, what do you what are you doing? Why are you doing this? Because he was shocked that they used to do this during

during the pre Islamic periods. And the Prophet knew the pagan Arabs of bucha. The Arabs who associated partners with a lot at that time, he knew that they used to do this as well. So how come Jews are doing it? They are the people of the book, they must have some other reason more than just paganism Of course, right? So he asked him this question and then they told the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam that this is the day in which Allah saved musasa from from drowning, and this is the date in which a large round filled and because of that Moosa fasted thanking Allah subhana wa Tada. So the Prophet said, live said, We are more worthy of Musa than you. So then He fasted also on

the day of Ashura, and he told everybody to fast as well. Now, towards the end of his life, what happened is one of the companions, he came to the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, and he said that oh prophet of Allah, the Jews and the Christians, they all, you know, are very, very keen on fasting on this day, and they're very keen on revering this day. So the prophets of Salaam wanted to be a little bit distinct. So he said, If I live to see the next year, then I'll also fast on the ninth now Solomon Natasha, and so the Prophet says, He said this, but he died sallallahu alayhi wasallam and because of that, he wasn't able to pay Chicago Yakubu berechnen Nick ik magic la

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thicker. So fit is basically another word for Islamic law fit and fit together. They comprise Islamic law because certain fields are the foundations based on which we derive rulings within Islam. And then fit are those rulings. So when someone says to you, this is halal and haram, that studied in the science of and then when someone goes behind the scenes and they actually try to figure out why this is halal and why this is haram. That is a science.

So my undergrad is actually in Islamic Studies in general but my major isn't fitness or

any fiqar cassoulet law governing or the law bit and all these fake are mentioned in Quran. So you have gone through the elaborations though, of course, so

the there's many different places that you deduce from okay. But there are four primary places that we go to when we're trying to deduce law, Islamic law. So they can be summarized as a poet says a pseudonym or an author masana about the hellish Manifesto. The homeless or heaven Piazza Mona comet is possible that our foundations are the Quran they happen to be the sooner and then after that they happen to be the consensus meaning scholarly agreements, everybody agrees all of the scholars agree on this. So there's no way that the all of those scholars could have made a mistake meaning everybody misread the Koran couldn't have happened everybody misread this or not couldn't have

happened. So that's why scholarly agreement is very important as well. And last but not least, the analogy. Okay, so it's haram to drink alcohol we know that for sure. But where's the proof that marijuana is haram as well? Okay. The proof for that is that it's similar to alcohol in that it also intoxicated that's the proof for that. So this is how the US is used this how an illogical that is assumed that is the US there is all of these are also

the obsolete a Canadian scholar but I think so we the Canadians are hum Marula in chemo god man because he is not here in Canada. He is in Malaysia I believe so is that right? Yeah. Up until recently up until COVID time and then I came here and due to the circumstances Yeah, but you will go back to Malaysia there's a possibility it could things could go either way at this point. Yeah. Okay. Not a problem and we definitely look forward. People like yourself being here. And I you need you because you want to correspond or talk to the young people like yourself you are more aware of the tool so I think our youth need you more than anything else. I wish you can stay here in Canada.

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Kizomba curtain to better journey in living in Canada once we come here Yaga guanine or rabbit J. Bo Tamika tanky apne Vilma, now, Quran maybe vilka zeker a mugger again most of the most of us they read Quran in Arabic They don't try to understand how like a lot of equitana Quran me for my kids jepto to likly Aurora guava Nadia Kuru Taurus, I need to know about why it is important to have well in our community in our people, especially in Canada, we are forgetting these bills to be done. Yes. So there is an importance definitely when it comes to a will when you talk about fit. And also there is a complete chapter within the books of fit which is related to Well, okay, so towards the end of

the books of Islamic law, there is a complete chapter dedicated to the laws of of how to do a will and so forth. So the laws over here they encourage you to write your will and so does Islam as well as I'm also encourages you to retro well, but there there's one thing that that one caveat that you have to keep in mind. And that is that the prophets SLM he said that in the La boquillas, he helped in haka, who said I will see you at anyway, that Allah subhanho wa Taala has given every person who had any rights when it comes to inheritance, he's given those rights already in the Koran and soda Nyssa. Okay, Allah has already given all those rights for that we'll see it anyway, anything Thus,

there is no more will that you can give to a person who's already given a prescribed inheritance. So there's a prescribed inheritance for the wife, she can't be given a will. There's a prescribed inheritance for the husband, he can be given a will. There's a prescribed inheritance for the child in some circumstances, depending on all the circumstances it changes for different people, but the child, the Father, the daughter, and so forth, there's some prescribed inheritance amounts that Allah subhanaw taala as prescribed in the Koran. So you go by that and you can't add to that. Okay, that's number one.

The second very important thing is that the way a person could write a will potentially in Canada is that they could actually encourage that their state is divided based on a certain system and that is the the Islamic system. Now there is actually forms that you can fill out quite easily offered in many massages, you can go to the masters and ask them for help on this and, and they will give you a forum where you can fill out this form and, and ensure that your estate is divided based on the Islamic principles. Okay, that's something that every Muslim I think that has a large sum of money and wants to ensure that his children get hit their share from the inheritance in an equitable and

Islamic way. That's something I encouraged that everyone should do. Mm hmm. Though, the cassava is good. But I have a question, you know what metal but

you know, I have but ifs and buts everywhere. For example, even though if I you know what, most of the non Muslims especially the, they have an objection in what in Islam, they do not respect women that much. So a woman has one cheer man has doubled here, I will defend it. Because when I was married, my parents, they gave me enough thing. And, of course, my husband got things from his parents, I got three shares. At the end of the day, everybody gets three, husband get double from the parents wife brings one part from

people who have objection, they you know, when you have to say something negative about something, they say that in Muslims, the women's are not women are not given right. And they are given one cheer, and the men are given double share any elaboration. So there's a number of things to elaborate here. And it's a very good question. And I really do appreciate that you brought up this but Okay, so the first thing is that

just as women do get slightly less, in some circumstances, this is very important, by the way to highlight some circumstances, okay. So

in all circumstances, men have to be the providers. This is something that is unanimously agreed upon among every Muslim scholar that ever lived, right, that, that after marriage, the provide the primary provider and the breadwinner happens to be the husband. So what wrong did the husband do to deserve this sort of treatment? If we're going to say that Oh, perhaps the woman is being neglected over here, what about the man here? miskeen Subhan Allah?

You are right, absolutely right. And Quran is and I always say and I always defended it that if Quran says to shoes for the men and volunteer for the woman, there is a must clear Allah subhanaw taala has mustard in the in this and I remember I asked her score as well. And he said if a woman earns

she can keep her money, but the actual provider is man of the house. This is a Canadian system od megaera tagami BBB IBO I always say give him you know, Marissa has been a bicycle he knows he can he be he gave us a musical ball, the money's at the same place. So I used to give everything to the firm. So that's where it is. But

Quran May Allah had very catalana as this scholar told me that the whole responsibility is man's responsibility to either share with doublemint rato

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it isn't true that the woman gets half a share in every circumstance, there's at least five circumstances within the Islamic inheritance law where the woman actually gets more than the men as well. So that principle in which Allah says, carry me through hell on saying that a male should be giving you should be granted twice as much as the female. That's a very limited circumstance, meaning it's a circumstance it's a few circumstances, but there are other circumstances in which women also get more as well. So

what people that want to have something negative to say about Islam are doing by taking this verse and stripping it out and saying that look, the inheritance law in totality gives the man more than the woman This is untrue. Know that these are the people who just who are the fault finders but the I know people who read Quran studied Quran although they are not Muslims. They say that this is a complete book buco flow anyways.

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like to talk about this. You are founder of salic Academy what is Sonic Academy? So Sonic Academy is a platform that I founded in 2011. And it's a platform dedicated to producing content on traditional Islamic knowledge and family life. You were to log on online on YouTube and search Sonic Academy or my name, you'd find maybe around 200 odd lectures on different topics on Islamic sciences that are conducted all around the world. So Sonic Academy is a platform to provide opportunity for people to learn the Quran the sooner the different Islamic sciences, there is a defeat of the Koran that we're conducting as well. 15% of it happens to be completed by hamdulillah so the lazy mega will do in

English. What is the problem with us? modalism make them I don't know English.

I can understand it also speak it as well but not you want to address the world you do not want to address people like me. Now you must understand myself.

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the word science today has become very, very codified to

empirical testing of things. earlier on, when we look at the etymology of the term science, it was used to refer to any type of art that would be that would be studied that had principles and so on and so forth. So when we say Islamic sciences, we're not talking about scientific Islam, we're talking about just Islamic domains and subjects. Okay. So that's what that

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there's actually a group of people today that

after the discovery and after the presentation of the scientific miracle of the Quran became very prevalent. There's a group of people who have now come and said, There is no such thing as the scientific miracle of the Quran. The Quran is not a book of science, we admit the Quran is not a book of science. But Allah Subhana Allah has made this in every living miracle. So in our times, people are fond of science in a way that they've never been found in human history. Perhaps people are fond of empirical testing in the way that perhaps human history history never never had it in this way. So because of that, and because of the fact that no one is in every living miracle. A lot

allow those verses to contain a shout outs, okay, signals through which we can recognize that Allah is referring to a, a scientific domain or Allah is referring to a scientific discovery within this verse. And the fact that he's making reference to this 1400 years ago, and we only discovered it just 10 years ago or

stop your use. I stop you for there. You said that. Quran is a book of law. It is not science, but I think it has science.

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I agree. I agree completely. Basel guys, what is this? Is it science? Yeah. So what I'm saying is that there are people that can test the claim that you're making. Oh, there are people that I personally don't believe that this is a contestable claim. Is that the whole

It has you know it has addressed everything it is addressed science as well now this is us v the human being colonic aka Quran go some do and explore Is that right? For sure okay salic Academy Aki Academy and I thank you very much for I know you must be thinking she's very unpredictable Did you think that no I actually what I did is once you sent me the links to your channel I watched a few of the shows to know

how to predict you so nothing you've done as of yet in particular for it yeah oh my god, but better journey get in a game ha sorry Kearney use kprc eight but one thing but I would say I think in every religion teaches the right thing. These are the human beings who mess up our article Tony Archie's we do social media.

Yeah, it has messed up everything everything. So while I was talking to you, I was looking at you. And I was thinking Mashallah Casey abeyta how much you love your mama? How much do I love my mom? Okay.

It's hard to describe how much I love my mom and how much she's means to me.

It's enough to say that every time I think of the fact that I think of life without my mom I start to go into tears. I love you baby uncontrollably I love you but a lot of us in the day you're my pride. You're my pride and I wish and I please request you is this is a wonderful man. They kiss up, up. They keep putting key Bioko aka, and I wish she can be part and parcel to our radio and television. Till you are here.

That would be my honor. And that would be Thank you. And please do teach us about Quran do teach us about Quran we will pick up one surah where Allah has taught

how my behavior should be, and I wish you can teach only Surah hoogenraad. This may have already been cut into Liga de la casa de Guzman Nakuru ham k on a chi Shazia bar to querque Baton Rouge Mira BBQ, Satish Cara Yogi and var life is also the surrounding and revolving around these commands.

I thank you very much and I thank you Baba.

Shama Abdul Wahab Celine, a Canadian Islamic scholar Mashallah Saudi Arabia King Saud University Chaparral Malaya University zipper Apna doctorat como como el correo I wish all the best and I will definitely talk about Islamic banking one day inshallah. Islamic banking will also talk about insurances Of course insurance, Islamic banking, I mean, this is one of the subjects that I taught for about nine years at university. So Islamic banking and insurance is one of those subjects that I really take pride in the fact that Allah has blessed me to contribute

some money maybe to Jared kitty Luke jacket, jacket today, and I remember many I read it somewhere Kay was Amanda mckissack

Desert Dakota will be in good Malacca today. So they used to pull money together as an example to Scotia. Is it something like that that's true I'm surprised you know this information because it's very rarely mentioned but yes,

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brothers sister, everybody loves each other. But unfortunately, everybody is in their own vicious life circle, they cannot help somebody. So gotta Oh, man. I read it. And I know I have gone through it in detail about it. Definitely. It's actually the basis when the philosophers of Islamic insurance speak about and they tried to philosophize the idea of insurance within the Islamic domain. This is one of the stories that they mentioned. And it is an authentically reported story that some of those will have they were out on an expedition are on a travel etc. So everybody had the resources. So what they did is they pooled their resources together. And then after pooling

these resources together, now obviously as a, as a group of people as a small community, they are more resilient to risk because one person has more money, another person has less money and everything came together, and now they're more resilient to risk which is very similar to the concept of insurance if it was not exactly the same, but it is the same question.

Say thank you very much. Abdul Wahab, Celine

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said the same thing, that it'd be quite right for a partner whoever stays quiet than the person is saved as the profitsystem said, See, magic pays a wonderful man. It's just a joke and I love him very much. He's a wonderful brother.

He's my support.

He's a wonderful man. But anyways, I think Jenna, Aloha, Celine, I thank you Baba.

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