Zakir Naik – The True Follower of Any Religion is He who Follows its Scripture
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My name is Das, Anthony Das, and I
am a trainer by profession.
My question is like this.
Doctor mentioned about universal brotherhood and doctor also
mentioned that similarities,
the way we
see God.
He mentioned various reason. I I would just
like to ask this,
will it be okay for people of
a different faith? Let's say Christians.
Can Christians,
refer to
the
the gods or the God
as Allah?
Asked a very good question.
That can people of other faith
refer to their God as Allah? The answer
was given in my lecture. That if the
God who you call as Allah fits in
this full line definition, you can refer. Otherwise,
you can't.
And I give you a sample, a test.
That there are some human beings in the
world who call Bhagwan Dhanush to be God.
Now when you put Bhagwan Dhanush to the
test of Suri ekla, it failed. So if
you call a as Allah, it is totally
wrong.
The same way the God you're worshiping.
Which God do you worship as?
I from the Christian faith. According to Christian
faith, I'm most of the of compiled religion.
I know what Bible says.
I've studied the Bible. I can quote the
Bible from my mind. I'm asking you, who
do you believe to be God?
The creator of earth. Yes. Creator? No problem.
Do you believe Jesus to be God?
Jesus is the Son of God.
Son of God. If God has son, then
he's not God.
Abel has got sons by the tongues. If
you read the bible, Adam was son of
God. Ephraim was son of God. Israel was
son of God. All those who are led
by the spirit of God are sons of
God.
In that idiom,
anyone who followed the commandment of God is
a godly person. In that way, I've got
no problem.
In Hindi, we say beta is around. So
no problem beta. But I got someone say
beta.
That means
he's
infundating. So only calling son of god is
a good word. But
if you say begotten son,
do you believe Jesus is begotten son? Jesus
is the son of God. The son of
God, even Ephraim is son of God, Israeli
son of God. So do you mean that
Ephraim and Israel is same as Jesus, peace
be upon him? I think, it would not
be fair to question in that manner. Because
if you were to see Christianity
from a Christian point of view Not Christian
point of view. I see Christianity upon the
bible point of view. If you want to
if you want to understand any religion,
go to the scriptures. If you want to
understand Islam, don't look at me. Don't look
at Muslims. You analyze the Quran and the
Sahadees. If you want to understand Christianity,
you have to study the Bible. If I
have to understand Hinduism, I have to study
the Vedas and the other scriptures. So what
you have to know that as a student
of comparative religion
I'm a student of comparative religion. I have
studied the bible. I have studied the read
the
Quran and we have question and session for
people to correct us. If you disagree with
me, you have a right to disagree, but
you have to tell me why. So I've
given the talk here and
I know the concept of God according to
bible very well. I'm not bothered what the
church says.
Because for me,
bible is important, not the church. So similarly,
as far as the question is concerned, you
can call the God you worship as Allah
if your God fits in this full line
definition. So in this full line definition, even
though Jesus cares peace be upon does not
fit, and even Jesus cares peace be upon
his father does not fit because God cannot
have son. So both of them you cannot
call as God. Hope that answers the question.
So doctor, you disqualify Christians from calling Allah
simply because the fact that Christians believe that
Jesus is the son of God. So that
the reason if he's the son of God,
begotten son, I disqualify.
Because this statement,
what you say son of God, is referring
to your Bible gospel of John chapter number
3 verse number 16.
I'm quoting. And you know that very well.
Gospel of John chapter number 3 verse number
16 says, God so loved the world that
he gave his only begotten son, whosoever believeth
in him shall not die but have everlasting
life.
Yes, my lord.
The way you are seem to be answering
my question,
the spirit you're answering my question,
the essence you're answering my question
doesn't seem to be promoting this brotherhood between
you and me. It is putting a separation
between you and me. Because if you go
against the bible, I will separate from you.
If you are towards the bible, I'm with
you.
Anyone, any human being who wants to create
disharmony
because he's going away from the scripture, I
will not agree with him. Because you are
going away from the scripture and going towards
your church. I'm saying go back to your
bible. You quote the bible. I'm giving references.
What you are saying is that out of
your own mind. Now if you try and
take the Christian away from the bible, I
will not agree with you. You quote the
Bible,
and you quote the verses of Jesus Christ,
peace be upon, spoke. There is not a
single unequivocal statement in the complete Bible where
Jesus Christ, peace be upon, himself says that
I am God or where he said worship
me. And I told you, if any Christian,
anyone in KL or in Malaysia or anywhere
in the world shows me from any version
of the Bible where Jesus Christ, peace be
upon himself, says that I am God. Or
where he says worship me. I, Doctor. Zakir
Naik, am breakthroughs of Christianity.
If Christian means
a person who follows the teaching of Jesus
Christ, peace be upon him, we Muslims are
more Christian than the Christian themselves.
Jesus Christ, peace be upon him, according to
the gospel of John. He was circumcised on
8th day. Brother, are you circumcised?
No, I'm not. I'm circumcised.
So I'm following the teaching of Jesus Christ
or you? If you read the bible, it's
mentioned in the book of Ephesians chapter number
5 verse number 18. Don't have alcohol. It's
mentioned in the book of Proverbs chapter number
20 verse number 1 that do not be
drunk with wine. Brother, do you have alcohol?
I don't I have never tasted alcohol in
my lifetime. How about the Christian as a
whole have or not? Say again? The Christian
have as a whole or not?
I haven't. I'm asking the Christians as a
whole. I haven't.
The Christian as a whole.
Do they have or no? They haven't. I
would not want to speak for other people.
Fine. You don't have. Or do you have
a book?
Say again? Do you have a book? Yes.
I have. Okay. Now I'm quoting you. If
you read the Old Testament, if you read
the book of Deuteronomy chapter number 14 verse
number 8, in the book of Isaiah chapter
65 verse number 2 to 5, in the
book of Leviticus chapter number 11 verse number
7 and 8, it says you should not
have
I don't have folk. You have folk.
If Christian means a person who follows the
teachings of Jesus Christ, peace be upon him.
We Muslims are more Christian than the Christian
themselves. I'm promoting communal harmony.
I'm quoting your Bible. And Jesus Christ, peace
be upon him, said in the gospel of
Matthew chapter number 5 verse 17 to 20.
If you break one jot or title from
the old testament, you shall never go to
paradise.
One law if you break off the old
testament, you shall not go to paradise.
I am more Christian than the Christian themselves.
I can
go on and on.
I can go on and on talking about
the similarities.
There are differences.
I'm not here to talk about difference. I'm
talking similarities. But the problem is if you
say Bible is the word of God, why
aren't you following the commandments of the Bible?
Why? So this is the problem with the
followers that when they want to follow the
scripture, what my solution is? Simple solution.
One simple solution. I tell
that at least believe
that one book is the word of God.
So Christian would not mind. Okay, fine. I
agree. Bible is the word of God. The
Hindu will say, I don't mind believing with
that to be the word of God. The
Muslim will say, I don't mind believing Quran
to be the word of God. I tell
them, let us agree to follow what is
common in all these three scriptures. What is
different, we'll discuss tomorrow. Right or wrong, we'll
discuss tomorrow. Let us agree today that let
us follow 100%
what is common in all these three scriptures.
As I told in my lecture, that all
these scriptures talk about 1 God. This God
has got no images. He has got no
picture, no portrait, no father, no mother.
I have given quotations from the old testament,
from the new testament.
I have given quotations from the old testament,
new testament, from the veda, from the Quran.
Point number 1. Let us agree there is
one god.
Worship him alone, not trinity.
Not triune God. 1 God.
Next, I had given a talk yesterday in
Jahabah. Muhammad
in the major world religious scriptures. Muhammad is
not only mentioned in the Quran, he's prophesied
in the Old Testament, in the New Testament,
in the Hindu scriptures, in the Vedas, in
the Upanishads, in the Puranas.
He prophesies in the Hashi scriptures, in the
Buddhist scriptures. Let us agree
to believe that prophet Muhammad is the last
and final messenger. So easy.
All these scriptures, they don't have alcohol. Bible
said don't have alcohol. Quran said don't have
alcohol.
Only you see none than mother Mary. You
know mother Mary?
Mother Mary have photography just like a Muslim,
properly covered. But when you see the other
ladies
if you read the first Corinthians
first Corinthians
chapter number 11, verse number 5 And 6.
It says, the woman that does not cover
her head, she dishonors her head, her head
should be shaved off.
Even in Islam, in Quran, it doesn't say
that the woman who uncovered the head should
be shaved off. This is how strict the
bible is for the woman to cover her
head. But most of the Christian women, we
see their head uncovered.
So I'm trying to get communal harmony, not
discord.
So please don't come here and say things
which are wrong.
Say again? Please don't come and lay allegation
against me. I'm bringing
core relationship.
I'm bringing communal harmony. That's the different thing
that you want to go away from your
bible. I want to get you closer to
your bible.
Thank you. Now,
now I feel that it is not fair
just because you follow certain things in the
Bible. You become more Christian than Christians.
I follow a lot of things which is
also in the
Muslim faith. And I know a lot of
things the Muslims don't don't follow in the
Muslim faith. I'm sure you would agree with
me. But would that make me more Muslim
than Muslims?
There is not a single statement you can
give in the Quran as a whole.
Not you may be better than 1 individual
Muslim.
He is a namesake Muslim.
Muslim means a person who submits his will
to God. If he says he submits and
he does not submit, he's a pseudo Muslim.
He will not go to Jannah.
He will not go to Jannah. Just by
saying that I'm a Muslim will not take
him to paradise. I will openly say that.
Unlike in your Christianity that you believe Jesus
Christ, peace be upon him, died for your
sins according to your church, and you go
to heaven. That's not part of the Bible.
That's the teaching of the church. So I'm
here to promote communal harmony. To let people
know. And what I'm telling is quotation directly.
You tell me what is common. You tell
me one thing in the Quran which I
don't follow. Show me one thing. Tell me
one thing. One thing in the Quran. I
can see something common in what both of
us are saying. Sorry? 1 I can see
something common. There are many things common, not
something common. I can see something common. I
can see.
I can see. I didn't say you can
see. I said that I can I can
see something common in what both of us
are seeing?
I can see that
there are some Christians
who do not follow Christianity
as as well as they should. And I
can see there are some Muslims who do
not follow
what Islam teaches as they should.
Not some Christians. According to statistics, majority Christian
don't follow. According to statistics today, there are
7,000,000,000 people in the world. The people who
profess the Christian faith, they may be close
to 2,000,000,000. The people that profess the Islamic
faith, more than 1 and a half 1000000000.
But the people who follow, the majority in
the world are Muslims. Majority.
The Christians,
they they they don't follow. So as a
whole,
the religion we have black sheep in our
community. But as a whole, the religion which
is maximum followed the teaching of any religion
that is Islam.
I know there are black sheep in the
community. There are many black sheep. But as
a whole, as a percentage,
today's title sheet tell us, the religion which
is maximum followed the teaching based on the
Quran, on the scripture, is number 1 Islam.
That's the reason today, the fastest growing religion
in the world is Islam.
Brother, what's your if you have any question?
Yes, sir. You can pose a question or
go behind the queue. Yes, brother. Pose the
question. Shall I Okay. I just like to
end by saying, I would like to say
that Okay. I rephrase.
There are some Christians who are not following
the Christian doctrine. There are some Muslims who
do not follow the Muslim doctrine. I would
like to end by saying,
however, I would not want to boost my
ego by saying I am more Muslim than
Muslims. Thank you, sir.
Brother said there are some Christians who don't
follow. Not some Christian. Majority people who claim
to be Christians are not following the bible
according to statistics.
And I do agree that there are some
Muslims who are black sheep who are not
following. Those who don't follow the scripture. Those
who go against the Quran.
They are not true Muslims.
They may be part or they may be
pseudo.
But you can never say,
never ever can you say, until you accept
that there's one God. And prophet Muhammad is
the messenger of God. You can never claim
to be better than the Muslims.