The True Follower of Any Religion is He who Follows its Scripture

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My name is Das, Anthony Das, and I

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am a trainer by profession.

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My question is like this.

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Doctor mentioned about universal brotherhood and doctor also

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mentioned that similarities,

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the way we

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see God.

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He mentioned various reason. I I would just

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like to ask this,

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will it be okay for people of

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a different faith? Let's say Christians.

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Can Christians,

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refer to

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the

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the gods or the God

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as Allah?

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Asked a very good question.

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That can people of other faith

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refer to their God as Allah? The answer

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was given in my lecture. That if the

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God who you call as Allah fits in

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this full line definition, you can refer. Otherwise,

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you can't.

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And I give you a sample, a test.

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That there are some human beings in the

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world who call Bhagwan Dhanush to be God.

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Now when you put Bhagwan Dhanush to the

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test of Suri ekla, it failed. So if

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you call a as Allah, it is totally

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wrong.

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The same way the God you're worshiping.

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Which God do you worship as?

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I from the Christian faith. According to Christian

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faith, I'm most of the of compiled religion.

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I know what Bible says.

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I've studied the Bible. I can quote the

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Bible from my mind. I'm asking you, who

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do you believe to be God?

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The creator of earth. Yes. Creator? No problem.

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Do you believe Jesus to be God?

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Jesus is the Son of God.

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Son of God. If God has son, then

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he's not God.

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Abel has got sons by the tongues. If

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you read the bible, Adam was son of

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God. Ephraim was son of God. Israel was

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son of God. All those who are led

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by the spirit of God are sons of

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God.

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In that idiom,

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anyone who followed the commandment of God is

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a godly person. In that way, I've got

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no problem.

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In Hindi, we say beta is around. So

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no problem beta. But I got someone say

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beta.

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That means

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he's

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infundating. So only calling son of god is

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a good word. But

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if you say begotten son,

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do you believe Jesus is begotten son? Jesus

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is the son of God. The son of

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God, even Ephraim is son of God, Israeli

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son of God. So do you mean that

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Ephraim and Israel is same as Jesus, peace

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be upon him? I think, it would not

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be fair to question in that manner. Because

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if you were to see Christianity

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from a Christian point of view Not Christian

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point of view. I see Christianity upon the

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bible point of view. If you want to

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if you want to understand any religion,

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go to the scriptures. If you want to

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understand Islam, don't look at me. Don't look

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at Muslims. You analyze the Quran and the

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Sahadees. If you want to understand Christianity,

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you have to study the Bible. If I

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have to understand Hinduism, I have to study

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the Vedas and the other scriptures. So what

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you have to know that as a student

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of comparative religion

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I'm a student of comparative religion. I have

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studied the bible. I have studied the read

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the

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Quran and we have question and session for

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people to correct us. If you disagree with

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me, you have a right to disagree, but

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you have to tell me why. So I've

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given the talk here and

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I know the concept of God according to

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bible very well. I'm not bothered what the

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church says.

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Because for me,

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bible is important, not the church. So similarly,

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as far as the question is concerned, you

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can call the God you worship as Allah

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if your God fits in this full line

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definition. So in this full line definition, even

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though Jesus cares peace be upon does not

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fit, and even Jesus cares peace be upon

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his father does not fit because God cannot

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have son. So both of them you cannot

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call as God. Hope that answers the question.

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So doctor, you disqualify Christians from calling Allah

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simply because the fact that Christians believe that

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Jesus is the son of God. So that

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the reason if he's the son of God,

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begotten son, I disqualify.

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Because this statement,

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what you say son of God, is referring

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to your Bible gospel of John chapter number

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3 verse number 16.

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I'm quoting. And you know that very well.

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Gospel of John chapter number 3 verse number

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16 says, God so loved the world that

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he gave his only begotten son, whosoever believeth

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in him shall not die but have everlasting

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life.

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Yes, my lord.

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The way you are seem to be answering

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my question,

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the spirit you're answering my question,

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the essence you're answering my question

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doesn't seem to be promoting this brotherhood between

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you and me. It is putting a separation

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between you and me. Because if you go

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against the bible, I will separate from you.

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If you are towards the bible, I'm with

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you.

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Anyone, any human being who wants to create

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disharmony

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because he's going away from the scripture, I

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will not agree with him. Because you are

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going away from the scripture and going towards

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your church. I'm saying go back to your

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bible. You quote the bible. I'm giving references.

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What you are saying is that out of

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your own mind. Now if you try and

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take the Christian away from the bible, I

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will not agree with you. You quote the

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Bible,

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and you quote the verses of Jesus Christ,

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peace be upon, spoke. There is not a

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single unequivocal statement in the complete Bible where

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Jesus Christ, peace be upon, himself says that

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I am God or where he said worship

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me. And I told you, if any Christian,

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anyone in KL or in Malaysia or anywhere

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in the world shows me from any version

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of the Bible where Jesus Christ, peace be

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upon himself, says that I am God. Or

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where he says worship me. I, Doctor. Zakir

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Naik, am breakthroughs of Christianity.

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If Christian means

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a person who follows the teaching of Jesus

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Christ, peace be upon him, we Muslims are

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more Christian than the Christian themselves.

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Jesus Christ, peace be upon him, according to

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the gospel of John. He was circumcised on

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8th day. Brother, are you circumcised?

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No, I'm not. I'm circumcised.

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So I'm following the teaching of Jesus Christ

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or you? If you read the bible, it's

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mentioned in the book of Ephesians chapter number

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5 verse number 18. Don't have alcohol. It's

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mentioned in the book of Proverbs chapter number

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20 verse number 1 that do not be

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drunk with wine. Brother, do you have alcohol?

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I don't I have never tasted alcohol in

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my lifetime. How about the Christian as a

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whole have or not? Say again? The Christian

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have as a whole or not?

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I haven't. I'm asking the Christians as a

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whole. I haven't.

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The Christian as a whole.

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Do they have or no? They haven't. I

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would not want to speak for other people.

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Fine. You don't have. Or do you have

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a book?

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Say again? Do you have a book? Yes.

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I have. Okay. Now I'm quoting you. If

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you read the Old Testament, if you read

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the book of Deuteronomy chapter number 14 verse

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number 8, in the book of Isaiah chapter

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65 verse number 2 to 5, in the

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book of Leviticus chapter number 11 verse number

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7 and 8, it says you should not

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have

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I don't have folk. You have folk.

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If Christian means a person who follows the

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teachings of Jesus Christ, peace be upon him.

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We Muslims are more Christian than the Christian

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themselves. I'm promoting communal harmony.

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I'm quoting your Bible. And Jesus Christ, peace

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be upon him, said in the gospel of

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Matthew chapter number 5 verse 17 to 20.

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If you break one jot or title from

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the old testament, you shall never go to

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paradise.

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One law if you break off the old

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testament, you shall not go to paradise.

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I am more Christian than the Christian themselves.

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I can

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go on and on.

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I can go on and on talking about

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the similarities.

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There are differences.

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I'm not here to talk about difference. I'm

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talking similarities. But the problem is if you

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say Bible is the word of God, why

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aren't you following the commandments of the Bible?

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Why? So this is the problem with the

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followers that when they want to follow the

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scripture, what my solution is? Simple solution.

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One simple solution. I tell

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that at least believe

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that one book is the word of God.

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So Christian would not mind. Okay, fine. I

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agree. Bible is the word of God. The

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Hindu will say, I don't mind believing with

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that to be the word of God. The

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Muslim will say, I don't mind believing Quran

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to be the word of God. I tell

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them, let us agree to follow what is

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common in all these three scriptures. What is

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different, we'll discuss tomorrow. Right or wrong, we'll

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discuss tomorrow. Let us agree today that let

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us follow 100%

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what is common in all these three scriptures.

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As I told in my lecture, that all

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these scriptures talk about 1 God. This God

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has got no images. He has got no

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picture, no portrait, no father, no mother.

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I have given quotations from the old testament,

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from the new testament.

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I have given quotations from the old testament,

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new testament, from the veda, from the Quran.

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Point number 1. Let us agree there is

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one god.

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Worship him alone, not trinity.

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Not triune God. 1 God.

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Next, I had given a talk yesterday in

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Jahabah. Muhammad

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in the major world religious scriptures. Muhammad is

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not only mentioned in the Quran, he's prophesied

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in the Old Testament, in the New Testament,

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in the Hindu scriptures, in the Vedas, in

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the Upanishads, in the Puranas.

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He prophesies in the Hashi scriptures, in the

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Buddhist scriptures. Let us agree

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to believe that prophet Muhammad is the last

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and final messenger. So easy.

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All these scriptures, they don't have alcohol. Bible

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said don't have alcohol. Quran said don't have

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alcohol.

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Only you see none than mother Mary. You

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know mother Mary?

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Mother Mary have photography just like a Muslim,

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properly covered. But when you see the other

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ladies

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if you read the first Corinthians

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first Corinthians

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chapter number 11, verse number 5 And 6.

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It says, the woman that does not cover

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her head, she dishonors her head, her head

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should be shaved off.

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Even in Islam, in Quran, it doesn't say

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that the woman who uncovered the head should

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be shaved off. This is how strict the

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bible is for the woman to cover her

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head. But most of the Christian women, we

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see their head uncovered.

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So I'm trying to get communal harmony, not

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discord.

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So please don't come here and say things

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which are wrong.

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Say again? Please don't come and lay allegation

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against me. I'm bringing

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core relationship.

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I'm bringing communal harmony. That's the different thing

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that you want to go away from your

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bible. I want to get you closer to

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your bible.

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Thank you. Now,

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now I feel that it is not fair

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just because you follow certain things in the

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Bible. You become more Christian than Christians.

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I follow a lot of things which is

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also in the

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Muslim faith. And I know a lot of

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things the Muslims don't don't follow in the

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Muslim faith. I'm sure you would agree with

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me. But would that make me more Muslim

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than Muslims?

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There is not a single statement you can

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give in the Quran as a whole.

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Not you may be better than 1 individual

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Muslim.

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He is a namesake Muslim.

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Muslim means a person who submits his will

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to God. If he says he submits and

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he does not submit, he's a pseudo Muslim.

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He will not go to Jannah.

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He will not go to Jannah. Just by

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saying that I'm a Muslim will not take

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him to paradise. I will openly say that.

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Unlike in your Christianity that you believe Jesus

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Christ, peace be upon him, died for your

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sins according to your church, and you go

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to heaven. That's not part of the Bible.

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That's the teaching of the church. So I'm

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here to promote communal harmony. To let people

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know. And what I'm telling is quotation directly.

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You tell me what is common. You tell

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me one thing in the Quran which I

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don't follow. Show me one thing. Tell me

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one thing. One thing in the Quran. I

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can see something common in what both of

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us are saying. Sorry? 1 I can see

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something common. There are many things common, not

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something common. I can see something common. I

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can see.

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I can see. I didn't say you can

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see. I said that I can I can

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see something common in what both of us

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are seeing?

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I can see that

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there are some Christians

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who do not follow Christianity

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as as well as they should. And I

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can see there are some Muslims who do

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not follow

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what Islam teaches as they should.

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Not some Christians. According to statistics, majority Christian

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don't follow. According to statistics today, there are

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7,000,000,000 people in the world. The people who

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profess the Christian faith, they may be close

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to 2,000,000,000. The people that profess the Islamic

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faith, more than 1 and a half 1000000000.

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But the people who follow, the majority in

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the world are Muslims. Majority.

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The Christians,

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they they they don't follow. So as a

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whole,

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the religion we have black sheep in our

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community. But as a whole, the religion which

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is maximum followed the teaching of any religion

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that is Islam.

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I know there are black sheep in the

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community. There are many black sheep. But as

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a whole, as a percentage,

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today's title sheet tell us, the religion which

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is maximum followed the teaching based on the

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Quran, on the scripture, is number 1 Islam.

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That's the reason today, the fastest growing religion

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in the world is Islam.

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Brother, what's your if you have any question?

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Yes, sir. You can pose a question or

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go behind the queue. Yes, brother. Pose the

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question. Shall I Okay. I just like to

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end by saying, I would like to say

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that Okay. I rephrase.

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There are some Christians who are not following

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the Christian doctrine. There are some Muslims who

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do not follow the Muslim doctrine. I would

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like to end by saying,

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however, I would not want to boost my

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ego by saying I am more Muslim than

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Muslims. Thank you, sir.

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Brother said there are some Christians who don't

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follow. Not some Christian. Majority people who claim

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to be Christians are not following the bible

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according to statistics.

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And I do agree that there are some

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Muslims who are black sheep who are not

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following. Those who don't follow the scripture. Those

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who go against the Quran.

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They are not true Muslims.

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They may be part or they may be

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pseudo.

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But you can never say,

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never ever can you say, until you accept

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that there's one God. And prophet Muhammad is

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to be better than the Muslims.

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to be better than the Muslims.