Zaid Shakir – Masculine And Feminine- Gender In Islam

Zaid Shakir
AI: Summary ©
The speakers discuss the history and potential of feminism, including the third wave and potential for a new generation of feminism. They also touch on the potential for a new generation to develop within the social context of the current generation, and the negative impact of binaries on society. The speakers stress the importance of women in protecting privacy and maintaining healthy relationships, and the need for men to educate their children and address issues such as black identity. They also mention a book on domestic policy and the potential danger of pornography.
AI: Transcript ©
00:00:00 --> 00:00:00

Let's

00:00:03 --> 00:00:04

say you didn't know how to play.

00:00:07 --> 00:00:07

Let's

00:00:11 --> 00:00:30

start by mentioning the obvious. And that is many, many definitions of feminism and many types of feminism. Some mentioned three waves of feminism, of course, the second third supplementary for waves, or second, third, fourth,

00:00:32 --> 00:00:35

I would like to just focus on a couple of those

00:00:36 --> 00:00:37

briefly

00:00:38 --> 00:00:43

by saying that this man does not countenance

00:00:44 --> 00:00:55

third wave feminism. So if those who identify that particular movement, it's extremely problematic from this perspective,

00:00:57 --> 00:00:58

one of the leading theories

00:00:59 --> 00:01:15

and so are we the originator of third wave feminism, Rebecca Walker on the aftermath of the Clarence Thomas Supreme Court confirmation hearings, with Anita Hills concerns, which

00:01:17 --> 00:01:25

is Walker and many others felt should have disqualified. Clarence Thomas, and Anita Hills concerns

00:01:27 --> 00:01:29

sexually predatory.

00:01:32 --> 00:01:48

unconscionable behavior of Clarence Thomas towards Florida women should have disqualified him from the bench, please confirm. Anyway. And so on the African after that, Rebecca Walker,

00:01:49 --> 00:01:50

the phone

00:01:51 --> 00:02:34

she says I write this as a tweet to all women, especially women of my generation, that Thomas's confirmation serve to remind you as it did be, that the fight is far far more romantic, this dismissal of a woman's experiences move you to anger, turn that outrage into political power, do not vote for them men, on this day important for us to not have * with him, do not break bread with them, do not nurture them, if they don't prioritize our freedom from to control our bodies, and our minds. I am not a post feminism feminist, I am the third wave.

00:02:35 --> 00:02:44

So I think almost crucial find that problematic, first and foremost, because it removes any

00:02:45 --> 00:03:08

concerns emanating from scripture from the existence of God from the equation altogether. It reduces the concerns of a woman strictly to her personal and individual affair. So it abstracts women from

00:03:09 --> 00:03:35

a wider societal context and its concerns that she might have an a wider societal context. And just one one brief example of what I mean the wider societal context and moving to be defined, a woman should have a sole right to determine if she should have an abortion or not.

00:03:36 --> 00:03:41

And so, any considerations of Almighty God

00:03:43 --> 00:03:50

and the prophets of God have delineated concerning abortion are irrelevant.

00:03:52 --> 00:03:55

In terms of a woman's right to make a donation,

00:03:57 --> 00:04:14

a wider social context, any consideration of the men with whose participation and let's assume it's a consensual relationship? That's conservative and let's assume this is consensual relationship, taking Kahn

00:04:16 --> 00:04:21

in the context of a marriage, as consecrated in the name of God

00:04:23 --> 00:04:27

in that social relationship,

00:04:28 --> 00:04:36

the man with wounds contribution that pregnancy will be absolutely unequivocally impossible.

00:04:38 --> 00:04:43

has no say in whether this child is born or not.

00:04:48 --> 00:04:59

That's That's how hard case to make from a feminist perspective. Now, there are nuances or considerations that we could discuss. Just

00:05:00 --> 00:05:09

Presenting the case, all of the things being equal. I would argue that's a hard argument to make, you should not nurture the

00:05:15 --> 00:05:19

VA a lot because otherwise we will come back to this

00:05:20 --> 00:05:24

work boosters and I mentioned Barbie coming back as the gentleman

00:05:27 --> 00:05:27

that

00:05:31 --> 00:05:33

you are calling each of

00:05:35 --> 00:05:35

the best was

00:05:36 --> 00:05:43

the best for them. This person alone, I'll come back to this verse. They are

00:05:44 --> 00:05:48

grogginess for you and your bonus for them. One of the

00:05:50 --> 00:05:56

widely accepted time series in something repeated in 10 students is they nurture each other.

00:05:59 --> 00:06:02

But this consideration is to know the mom is she not going to retrieve them?

00:06:03 --> 00:06:05

If the man

00:06:06 --> 00:06:16

does not vote for her specifically, let's not bother coming back. I would argue that's difficult. That's problematic

00:06:17 --> 00:06:42

for most, secondly, one type of feminism lesbian feminism is not something that most of us have. And that's an idea that and it's this thread within feminism. It is not the whole the totality of feminism. I mentioned his two years ago at the knowledge up that divided this period of confidence in

00:06:44 --> 00:07:04

many systems, and said, You're saying all lesbians are feminists. I'm not saying all lesbians are feminists, I'm saying there is a school of feminist thought known as lesbian feminism now argues that lesbian is the logical outcome of feminism.

00:07:06 --> 00:07:07

So

00:07:09 --> 00:07:10

one of the theories

00:07:13 --> 00:07:14

like this

00:07:20 --> 00:07:35

in the worlds of lesbian feminists, you have geographies, that's going to feminism the emergence of rezoning to develop lesbians, and the Women's Liberation Movement began to create a new distinctly feminist lesbian politics.

00:07:39 --> 00:07:46

And lesbians in the Gay Liberation Front, not to join us to join up with their sisters. And so

00:07:48 --> 00:07:58

the argument goes from there, this is the logical outcome of feminism. That's the spread that spread Muslims totally reject.

00:08:00 --> 00:08:10

shoulda told me which, in my opinion, you could argue against me, based on your assessment of the situation either denied or that you would need any more

00:08:12 --> 00:08:13

help there.

00:08:16 --> 00:08:17

Thirdly,

00:08:18 --> 00:08:22

I would argue that stem rejects a postmodern

00:08:25 --> 00:08:29

view of feminism, which itself rejects the ideas can find

00:08:31 --> 00:08:33

out Have you been taught this to university class?

00:08:35 --> 00:09:19

binaries? Not bad. One of the bad binaries is the gender binary, there's the race of mine every Black Friday, is it gender, gender, binary, binary, male, female, and it's bad. And to make the long story short, is bad, because if you accept the validity of that, find them, you know, accept the validity of many of the groups that are stolen by LGBTQ I, etc. That's the bottom line. And so to just articulate a little further, that these binaries are social construct, therefore they can be deconstructed and be reconstructed in any way that we want.

00:09:20 --> 00:09:34

And so that's something that is now rejects why because Allah says it will hopefully shed in the column so Jay and I will come to that total that binaries are the foundation of the creation

00:09:35 --> 00:09:45

and they're not all confined to the gender binary, but that's one of them. When they say that Google can go into that the male isn't always like the female

00:09:48 --> 00:09:59

yay and as the top rocket loan lending a lot open the document it opens all humanity fear your God was created from a paddock

00:10:00 --> 00:10:00

a

00:10:03 --> 00:10:04

male and a female.

00:10:06 --> 00:10:14

So that's the foundation of creation. That's the foundation of Allah Tala mentioning

00:10:15 --> 00:10:20

his creation of the human being, and that can improve them.

00:10:21 --> 00:10:40

And so some people will say that's a biological reality that has no social implications. Again, I would I would argue, otherwise, I will not do, there are social implications. And there are elements that are socially constructed by root.

00:10:42 --> 00:10:47

There is a binary that is inescapable

00:10:49 --> 00:11:04

that can produce them. And so, binaries and those who argued against to be what many of us who festival and say that things are created an opposite, and they're no food.

00:11:07 --> 00:11:14

And so those who reject binaries altogether, Aquinas told them later, when the hot night any day,

00:11:15 --> 00:11:16

male and female,

00:11:17 --> 00:11:18

is none of

00:11:20 --> 00:11:21

Heaven and *.

00:11:23 --> 00:11:39

And you can go on and on from there. And so I would argue again, that's it, that will be a very difficult argument to me. And I think for most of us, who confine themselves to those categories,

00:11:40 --> 00:11:43

third wave feminism, lesbian feminism,

00:11:44 --> 00:11:54

anti binary feminism, that is, it's entering into the entrances into various roles.

00:11:55 --> 00:12:01

That one should be very careful now is not healthy, to talk about, it's

00:12:03 --> 00:12:32

based on what it is, or based on what it does it countenance because we should be should be very positive. And presenting the vividness of the balance of my time, I like to present what I feel, are some of the verses that serve as the foundation for a most of feminism, if you will. First of all, there are legitimate concerns, and Stephen Cena mentioned some of them

00:12:33 --> 00:12:36

that specifically

00:12:37 --> 00:12:38

involved women.

00:12:40 --> 00:13:00

But the removal of those is the responsibility of everyone in the community, not just the sisters, and then reality, effectively addressing those issues must involve everyone. So in that sense, in the sense of moving on Preston,

00:13:02 --> 00:13:05

disruptive, so

00:13:09 --> 00:13:15

I'm trying to find a word document this document because I use this topic. So

00:13:18 --> 00:13:22

desiccating like drying on your soul.

00:13:23 --> 00:13:26

So desiccating practices

00:13:27 --> 00:13:33

that affect the blending it has to be addressed by the entire community.

00:13:35 --> 00:13:38

Because in many instances, women can

00:13:40 --> 00:13:51

address these issues alone in isolation, when they can raise more, but sometimes, in some instances, it's time to take a man to synthesis rather than

00:13:54 --> 00:13:59

put another head on your wife is a bunch of angry big brothers that.

00:14:02 --> 00:14:03

I'm just saying.

00:14:04 --> 00:14:14

So sisters, can you say is wrong in abuse, and maybe that abuser, the only thing they understand is the language that you're trying to speak.

00:14:17 --> 00:14:26

I'm not advocating for violence. I'm just saying, sometimes a male's involvement in a situation is absolutely critical. But to be

00:14:27 --> 00:14:34

more to the point, we mentioned one verse as a foundation from the the best of the best and

00:14:35 --> 00:14:59

that the binary doesn't have to be bad. See, one of the premises of those feminist scholars post modern scholars who argue against binaries are that they're bad. But that's not something that is left out. So the male female binary, totally messed it up.

00:15:00 --> 00:15:01

We want and to the best of our home.

00:15:03 --> 00:15:37

It can be complementarian. And that's the ideal situation. So it's not a question of men and women's existing and opposition to each other. It's a question of men and women existing as complements to each other. And this is what this this first capture is further highlighting. And second verse, which I feel is the foundation for a Muslim feminism, when what we know what we know, or we are required,

00:15:39 --> 00:15:49

the believing men and women are protecting friends of each other, rather than the one who no one will be nervous about now, the

00:15:50 --> 00:15:54

moment that we are, live locally, will take no loss on that

00:15:58 --> 00:16:00

would add interest to your husband when we walk

00:16:01 --> 00:16:11

in the lies, he's an acute, so the believing men and believing women are protective friends with each other father.

00:16:13 --> 00:16:18

They encourage each other and establishing like,

00:16:20 --> 00:16:27

encouraging, they encourage each other to combat into good and forgive you for completing

00:16:30 --> 00:16:30

one of them.

00:16:33 --> 00:16:45

So in the social space, they encourage each other, to work together to ensure that the social space is not just more morally and ethically

00:16:46 --> 00:16:47

healthy.

00:16:49 --> 00:16:52

Then they encourage each other in personal piety.

00:16:56 --> 00:17:00

They encourage each other in establishing regular prayer.

00:17:01 --> 00:17:03

They encourage each other

00:17:04 --> 00:17:05

and

00:17:08 --> 00:17:11

and obey the laws and come up with your own Allah

00:17:12 --> 00:17:42

and His messenger. So in other words, there is no separate social project, there is no separate religious project, that they exist in isolation of each other. Rather than exist as complementary have as the provenance of the lover, I think you said that emphasize specifically, when you said me seven shall pocket or reject the women or the complementary have submitted.

00:17:44 --> 00:17:59

And so as we as as we engaged in entertaining continents, ideas that split us apart from each other, we move away from the most of the ideal, which is to bring us to

00:18:01 --> 00:18:10

our knees establish a political reject. Men and women are the complementary have to each other. So without each other, we're incomplete.

00:18:12 --> 00:18:18

So we need each other. But we need each other in unhealthy ways in abusive ways.

00:18:21 --> 00:18:22

When they say that

00:18:24 --> 00:18:38

the male is a nobody's like a female. And there are common there are roles that we assume that are that are complimentary, there are roles that assume that are unique and distinct.

00:18:39 --> 00:18:43

There are roles that we assume that are exactly the same.

00:18:44 --> 00:18:46

But on aggregate,

00:18:47 --> 00:18:59

we have generally generally speaking, and again, there are exceptions of that rule, we have distinct roles. We have a common destiny by the five of them, and

00:19:01 --> 00:19:05

are we rewards of the same for actions

00:19:07 --> 00:19:09

that do have an island in the middle

00:19:10 --> 00:19:17

that did not do that? Did the ring rewarded, either male or female will be diminished in any way?

00:19:19 --> 00:19:22

So I think, on the basis

00:19:23 --> 00:19:37

of these verses, or mitigating others, what the Prophet mentioned, so Obama even said that we can create a healthy, most of feminism, if you will.

00:19:38 --> 00:19:53

And I think we're just repeating that because a lot of the practices within our community and beyond our community are deeply harmful, deeply abusive, deeply.

00:19:56 --> 00:19:59

Particularly weighing upon women. You can

00:20:00 --> 00:20:02

You can play through a photography industry

00:20:03 --> 00:20:10

or women are dehumanized overwhelmingly for the pleasure. I don't understand the pleasures.

00:20:11 --> 00:20:26

If you have again, I mentioned this a couple of days ago strong continent. Constitution. I will recommend Chris Hedges book, America the farewell tour. And that book has a chapter on civil masochism.

00:20:28 --> 00:20:38

And just, which is an extension of this chapter in the empire of illusion on *, which

00:20:39 --> 00:21:03

is difficult stuff to me. And it's the part of the presentation is *. And the presentation in the new book is masochistic. But it gets to the depth of how women are dehumanized. And as blanc monography star mentioned, St. James Baldwin, what does James Baldwin say ultimately, your quiet America?

00:21:04 --> 00:21:06

Does he fear white America?

00:21:08 --> 00:21:10

Or does he pity white America?

00:21:11 --> 00:21:17

Pity's are not afraid to kill me eventually, but I'm not afraid, I pity

00:21:18 --> 00:21:23

people who have such a hard time coming to grips with who they are.

00:21:24 --> 00:21:27

And Chris Hedges interviews of *,

00:21:29 --> 00:21:37

who, usually for a debt trajectory, abusive childhood, alcoholic, it's

00:21:38 --> 00:21:44

not at all common throughout the day to pay for the drug habit

00:21:45 --> 00:21:49

is making $70 a day working 12 hours.

00:21:52 --> 00:21:53

Dining Room

00:21:56 --> 00:21:59

can make $1,000 a half hour shoot.

00:22:00 --> 00:22:02

Product Photography,

00:22:03 --> 00:22:04

long story short,

00:22:05 --> 00:22:06

she says

00:22:08 --> 00:22:08

that

00:22:10 --> 00:22:11

I

00:22:12 --> 00:22:13

feel sorry for the men

00:22:15 --> 00:22:17

for consulting on numbers,

00:22:18 --> 00:22:19

because it's disappointing it

00:22:22 --> 00:22:23

is destroying.

00:22:24 --> 00:22:33

And so the destruction of women now for the pleasure of when the dehumanize the limit for the destruction of men

00:22:35 --> 00:22:39

is something that is going to take all of us to end.

00:22:41 --> 00:22:47

The feminist movement, as currently constructed, is not going to end.

00:22:48 --> 00:23:03

Women alone are not going to end this is one example of domestic violence is going to take all of us working together, educating ourselves, educating our children, boys and girls,

00:23:04 --> 00:23:19

and healthier ways of living, of being of understanding who we are relating with our Creator and seeking the love of our Creator first and foremost. And just as an adult to start now, I highly

00:23:21 --> 00:23:35

masculine movement is not a solution, just as a white identity movement, which was largely responsible for Trump's election, is that the solution to a person exceeding black identity

00:23:37 --> 00:23:50

I think growing male identity movement, the red pill is not a solution to our feminist movement. The solution is is

00:23:52 --> 00:24:14

understanding Islam and then building and way to address these real problems from a perspective that we promote a an approach that is first and foremost not pleasing to men, per se. Please into women per se, but pleasing to all my the government's

Share Page