The Realities of Bid’a (Innovation) in Islam
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Smilla Rahmanir Rahim Al hamdu Lillahi Rabbil Alameen wa salatu salam ala Sayidina Muhammad Anwar the earliest age, Marine, and Mulberry. So welcome to today's special class, which I have been planning to do for the longest time, but I felt that might as well get it done a shout out to Allah. Today, we're going to be talking about the reality of the concept of innovation or Bidda in Islam. And this topic is actually an entire branch of Islamic theology, as with every science, such as fear, such as soil filter, just of seal, it has many branches. And actually the or the science of theology has also many branches. And one of the branches, one of the sub branches of the sciences of
al Qaeda is the topic of bid, what constitutes innovation, where and when does innovation occur? What is an innovation? What is the categories of innovation? What are the dangers of innovation, the history of innovation, so you have all of these subtopics under the topic of data, which is one of the chapters in the issue of theology, and many classical books have been written on this topic, beginning from the third century of Islam.
And one of the most famous ones is by email Michel to be from Andalus, called earlier to somebody shout to be two big volumes. He wrote it 800 years ago, 700 years ago, and it is considered to be one of the big classics. So the point being, even to introduce this topic in totality, would require at least just an introduction, at least two to three lessons of this nature. And as with all issues, there's always empty love. This is one of the things about our religion, and about any science and discipline, you have all of these views. Therefore, today, we literally have one lesson even half of a lesson because I want to leave time for q&a. So the goal is just to shed some very brief light,
and to get to really some of the more
controversial issues in order that we develop empathy, in order that we understand where and why there are these differing views. So let's begin with a brief primer, what is bid linguistically? And what is it from a technical perspective? The word bid comes from the three letter root bodyline, Budda, and this means linguistically, purely from a linguistic perspective it means to bring something unprecedented, to do what nobody before has done. And that's why of the names of Allah is a little birdie or L by dear buddy or semi Watty. Well, it's one of the names of Allah, buddy or semi Swati what are the wise what the name of Allah Allah dear, because Allah brings what nobody
else has brought. So it is of the names of Allah from the same route and lbds the one who brings unprecedented the creation of Allah is unprecedented. Also in the Quran, Allah says OLMA going to be the Amina Rasul This is about the Prophet CISM say or messenger of Allah makan to be the Amina Rasul. I am not be that mean or Russell, meaning I am not something new, as if no prophet before me has come. I am not be there from the prophets, meaning I'm Not There are prophets before me, and they have come with the same message. Go read history, I'm not the first there are many before me. So Allah is saying go tell them Malcolm to be the ammonoosuc I am not be that from the prophets, you
understand the meaning here A B that means something absolutely new. Now, this is a linguistic meaning of Buddha. So of the Name of Allah Al Bashir, the process is being told to say I am not be there, I mean, Russell, but in the Islamic technical sense, just like the term Salah means something, linguistically means prayer. And in actual fifth, it means the prayer that we do Zeca means to purify an actual field that means to purify your wealth. So what is B that from an Islamic perspective, okay? Veda we said technical means something new from an Islamic perspective, from a shadow a perspective. Generally speaking, it implies a new methodology, a new action, a new routine,
in the religion of Islam, and from this connotation, that becomes the opposite of sunnah. So sunnah and bid are become the opposite something is either Sunnah the process have told us to do it, or it is Vida he didn't tell us to do it and people are still doing it. So be the eye becomes the opposite of Suna. And therefore in the technical sense. Generally speaking bid is used for something negative, not for something positive. Okay, this isn't a technical sense not in the lingo.
sticks sent in the technical sense, it is used for something negative. And the Hadith of the Prophet system. All mentioned this connotation that negative connotation. For example, the hadith of airbelt, even Saudia in Abu Dawood, our Prophet sallallahu sallam said, Whoever lives long amongst you will see many differences of opinion, many akti laugh, so, I commend you to follow my sunnah and the Sunnah of the Rightly Guided caliphs. So when you see lots of different positions, follow my sunnah. And in the famous Hadith Mustafa Ali Bukhari and Muslim This is one of the most
oft quoted Hadith when it comes to Buddha, and many of us have memorized it in Arabic and in English. We hear it all the time. The prophets of salaam said Hadith in Bukhari and Muslim men data feed somebody now had murli salmon HuFa, who are doing whoever introduces something into this affair of ours that does not belong to it, it shall be rejected, Allah will rejected the angels people should reject it. Whoever introduces something into this matter of ours, that does not belong to it. It should be rejected of him. Okay, so this hadith is very clear that we don't want introductions we don't want be the eyes to come in. And Hadith in Sahih Muslim and we say this every time we give the
hot bird the hot hot teams from around the world, they typically begin the hot buzz with this phrase. And this is something that has been happening from the beginning of time. Even our profit system would many times begin his hot but not every time, but many times he will begin his hot bath with what is called goodwill hygiene. And in that hot buttered. hija there is a phrase why you don't have de Haji Mohamed Muhammad salallahu Alaihe Salam right to the best guidance, the guidance the washer Amaury more data to her, the worst of all things are those that are new water cooler, more data, Tim VEDA, everything that is new in the religion it's a bit what could it be that in the Allah
Allah every bit is a misguidance, we're Kulu Dalton Finn, every misguidance is going to lead to jahannam This is a Hadith in Sahih Muslim, and it is the hotbar of Hadith as you begin the hobby with this hotbar. And our profit system would begin hotbar of Joomla and hold the bar of a nigga and any hotbar he was giving, he would usually begin in that hamdulillah Nakamoto. Understand, I know it would begin that phrase you hear me all the time. Usually I say this, even though sometimes you will do it. But the phrase that is important here, everything that is new is a bit of an every bit that is a misguidance and every misguidance leads to jahannam. So this is a very, very clear explicit
phrase, we need to memorize and understand it. And it is also another meaning of this as well, Hadith in Bukhari and Muslim that the Prophet system shall recognize some people on judgment day and he is going to tell them come and drink from the house from my fountain and the angels will come and say no, you're not allowed to go so they will stop these people. So the prophets are some say Almighty Almighty I'm these are my people. And the angels will say, you do not know what they added. After you are gone. You do not know the changes they did the throwback. You don't know these things they did after you. And so all of these and many more, they show us the dangers of bitter and of
course, Theologically speaking very simple arguments are given for the dangers of it. Why is it so dangerous? Why are the technical term a bit so dangerous?
Simple and uncertain which appeals to all of our minds and that is that Islam is a perfect religion and that which is perfect is not tampered or tinkered with. Okay, Alia OMA, a commode Tula. Come Deena come what's mom to Addy come near Mati worldly to la cama Islam Medina today I have finished and completed and perfected my favorites and chosen Islam. So Allah is saying that Islam is more come Mel. Islam is tamam Islam is done finished. This is it. So then somebody comes along and changes, right? Microsoft has updates, Windows has updates, Macintosh has updates. Apple has updates even even Apple has updates because they're not perfect.
But something that is perfect. You don't need version 3.1 Version 4.0 version X version XP you don't need all of this. That was just perfect remains as it is. And that is why Imam Malik famously remarked famously is a famous nourishing, romantic, whoever innovates into Islam a Buddha and he thinks that this is something good. He has accused the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam of having failed that the message is a very important psychological framework here. You understand why? If you bring some
thing new. And you think this is good, and Allah likes it and the process of didn't bring it? Well, then who do you think you are? And what did the process and him do, then he failed according to you, according to you, that means he didn't do his job, you had to come along and then redo it for him. So there are very many evidences, and you can go so many evidences from the Sahaba, tab room from the early scholars about this notion of change to the fundamentals of Islam is bad. And that's common sense. For most of us, by the way, do realize, for some Muslims, in particular, the progressive Muslims, they are thinking Islam as like Microsoft, and it needs updates all the time.
That is their philosophy. And they don't have a problem with this at all. And they keep on saying, well, Islam of the past was Islam over the past. Now we need Islam of today. Tomorrow, we'll need Islam of tomorrow, they don't mind the whole philosophy is different for them. And they say Hollis, Allah intended the Quran for the past, no problem, they did it. Now we need to pick and choose and update and carve and whatnot. And they have their methodology for doing that. And as you know, I'm critic of that strand of Islam. But mainstream Muslims, they always view Islam as having been perfect and whole, and no need to really change. Now a number of points. Firstly, most importantly,
actually, most importantly, from the beginning of time, pretty much even the Sahaba you can see pretty much unanimous and from that time, all of the famous scholars pretty much they said the same thing and that is, there is no bidder in worldly matters, but that is in religious matters. So customs and cultures and actions that we do have a dunya nature. There is no bidder. It couldn't be haram. It's not bitter. Not every Haram is bitter. But every bit as haram, not every Haram is bitter.
So if a new drug comes along cocaine,
somebody wants to drink or drink or eat cocaine or whatever snort cocaine, whatever, it's Haram is not bitter. It will only be bid out when it becomes religion. Right now, if somebody does a haram thinking it is religion, then it becomes better. In that case, that's a separate category. But if anybody does anything of this dunya of this world, you can categorize them as Halal haram Woba was the hub there is no bid in dunya way matters, there is no bid in worldly issues in cultures in more amberleigh in actions and interactions in financial transactions, it can be haram, but there's no bid that in that you understand unless somebody makes it something of the religion. And
sometimes there is a gray area. And interesting example I gave a very long lecture a long time ago, not to you guys actually was online.
about the issue of coffee, haha, and interesting anecdote that what coffee was first introduced, believe it or not, amongst Sufi circles, it was a drink associated with Sufism in the 11th and 12th centuries, and they would drink it late at night before they did their liquor ceremonies for obvious reasons.
Stay awake. And that was when it was first introduced. And I have a whole long lecture about this. And that is why many orthodox traditionalists ruler of the 11th 12th century, they considered coffee to be haram and bitter.
Because the 30 cars of that time adopted coffee as a ritual Believe it or not, they made it a ritual before their
vicar sessions that stand up and chant and whatnot, and they made it something apart. So believe it or not, we have many fatawa in the 11th century 13th century evens coffee was banned in Makkah, somebody was whipped at lashes in front of the Haram because they found them drinking coffee in Makkah right because they said coffee is like alcohol and that time and the point is that they considered to be Buddha and many considered to be haram eventually the Sufi practice has moved on from that and then people realize that coffee is not musket is not alcoholic or whatnot. And so by and large hamdulillah Al Hamdulillah that photo is now gone. So we all have our mocha mocha in the
city of Mackay said that in Islam so Mohawk comes from the port of Yemen, mocha, mocha, mocha coffee, right then haha comes from the Arabic coffee comes from their power, which comes from the the Ethiopian as well. So anyway, that's a long story about coffee. The point being, if you take a worldly matter and make it religious, you think Allah is gonna reward you, then yes, we can talk about Buddha. But if you keep it in the worldly realm, it will never be called bid out even if it is haram. There is no bid out when it comes to technical
Logie computers, engineering said science medicine there is no bid, because you're not making it a part of the religion. How a process that I'm said, Whoever introduces something into what,
into this affair of ours.
He didn't say whoever changes anything, said whoever introduces into this affair. So if it's not in this affair that it's not a bitter, it could be haram. Like who says no, but anyway, so that's the clear point here that we need to understand where does it occur? It occurs within the realm of religion. Now, what is the definition of Bidda. And here's where we jump straight into the deep end. I'm skipping a lot of preliminaries because we have to get to the gist of the topic here. Here is where we get to the problem. There is no unified agreed upon definition. And to make a long story short from the beginning of Islam, we essentially had I'm being simplistic obviously when on the on
one lecture, we essentially had two philosophies of Buddha. Okay, two primary understandings of Buddha. And this is found in very early texts. And these two understandings have basically trickled down up until our times, okay, and they can be represented
by the two main competing strands in our times over the molded wars, let's say, okay, the same concept, and we're going to jump to the motive at the end as well, because it's as an illustrative example, as a technical example, and shallow you will see the goal of this lecture is not at all to to to rile up the anger at all. I think it's a very anywhere jumping the gun here, but that's an example here, where did these two schools
one can say that the first school essentially allows for
changes and fine tunings that have evidence from other areas of Islam.
And they're willing to allow changes that are in the spirit of Islam,
but they would not allow changes that go against Islam.
And first and foremost amongst them is Imam Shafi himself and his Kitab home his famous book he wrote Kitab will own and many many scholars after him is the salam Imam nawawi have been hijacked hedger great, famous aroma. Imam Shafi himself in his catabolism and Imam Shafi died in the third century. He is one of the great Imams so it is not coming out of the blue, it's not coming from extreme Muslim voters. However, it's not coming from, you know, crazy Looney Tunes No, this is mainstream scholarship of Islam. Imam Shafi said that linguistically Abida is anything that is new, and sometimes the bid is sinful, and sometimes it is encouraged. So he made this clear dichotomy,
and he said that, when is it sinful? He said, if it contradicts the Quran and the Sunnah and the GMR, then it is wrong. But he said, if something is new, and there is higher and good in it,
and it's in conformity with the texts of Islam, then this is a good bit ha. This is a good bit. Now, later on, and I'm going to give examples, later on the famous great Adam is in Abdus, Salam he died 650 something, the basically six hundreds, if not the salam, he has called the soltanto ruler, with the title given to him. He elaborated and he said, in fact, Vida has the same categories as the categories of Islam, wajib and Mooster, hub, and MOBA and makuu and haram.
And he says there could be something as Vida wajib for example, the preservation of the Quran in one book,
nothing wrong with this it is wajib to do and be the Musa hob
and be the amoeba and be the Ummah crew and with our haram and he has long examples of each one of them. So he is saying, Look, when the Prophet system is saying every bit is a Palala. He is essentially saying, you and I both know he didn't mean the linguistic meaning of Buddha, we agree. He didn't mean the linguistic meaning of Buddha. So what did he mean? So then Imam Shafi and those who support him, it's not just the Shafi method, please understand, you will find many of the scholars and essentially this is let's say modern Sufism by and large comes under this camp, all of the medina modern Sufism and many that are non Sufi as well, they will come under this camp. It's
not just Imam Shafi. They will say that when the Prophet system is saying every bidder is a misguidance, he means the bid either ism accrue
and haram, not the linguistic Veda and I'll give you examples that will clarify in a while. Okay, so this is the first camp. And that camp essentially is saying that not every change even within Islam is wrong.
And you can have small changes that are found in other texts. For example, the Quran preservation we know we're supposed to preserve Islam, we know we're supposed to help the deen. It's not as if it's coming out of the blue, it's not coming out of thin air. And of course, the famous example that's always given over and over again, is one of them in the hot tub, gathered the people for salata. tarawih and Ramadan, and he said, because he came to the masjid one night in Ramadan and he found everybody praying on his own separate separate separate separate so he said why don't we all gather them behind one Imam
and so he told over here VanCamp who is the Accra only Kitab Allah to lead the Torah and when he saw them the next day they were all in one Gemma rather than everybody praying separate he smiled and he said near and Matilda to her the he would a good bit artists bit are here meaning linguistically with a good bit i But
but he's not talking about that. He's talking about about that, right? Now. salata rawia And he is saying near Matilija to hottie This is a report found in body and wartime America and others what a good bit of this is by bit it didn't mean the Hadith bit Caribbean and metadata. It's an Arabic word but I which means what? Something new right so he's you're speaking Arabic. And he says, Oh, what a great not invention here but what a great custom that has happened now. It's just using an Arabic word. So don't get confused between the Arabic word that is
overall and then the technical definition of Buddha. Imam Shafi will be the first to say that a an evil Buddha is haram and discouraged and released to the hellfire, but he would say in his camp would say not every change is evil. Sometimes you see something better for the manual, do it okay. So this is one whole philosophy and you have a long list of rules AMA on this side. On the stricter side, you also have greater Lemma and you have the Maliki scholar al Qadhafi. You have the underdosing scholar a shell to be who wrote the two volume and material design. And of course you have shareholder some Ibn Taymiyyah dividend pay him. Okay. These are some of the examples on the
stricter side. And who essentially said that we should not say there's anything called good bidder.
every bidder is wrong. And any example that you give them from the classical times, they would say Oh, this isn't bitter in the technical sense. So they would say the aroma incident oh but the process and prayed a few times in his life. Okay, so this is nothing new. And we're gonna get back to this but anything else you give them, they will find a way out and they're gonna say this isn't the technical Bidda and Ibn Taymiyyah has a very, very clear definition. Every matter by which Allah is worshipped reward is expected yet the Shetty did not come with the Shetty AI does not allow if you do something,
and you expect Allah to reward you for it. But the Shetty I did not tell you to do it.
Then he would say this is a beta. Now the problem comes this is a good definition. But as they say, in English, the devil is in the details. What does it mean, the shady I did not come with this is again the big thing. And that's where, in reality with my utmost respect of intimin Tamia, this issue still remains unresolved. What do you mean, the shady I did not come with because the other camp is going to say the shady I came with these concessions. In the end, they will both agree that it's a matter of the devil is in the details. And it's not as if either camp doesn't want to open the door for Buddha. They don't like be that overall okay. And of course we all understand is
understood that if you're going to open the door for Buddha, so from yesterday till today, a little change will occur from today, tomorrow, another change five days later. 10 other changes until finally from beginning to end, you don't even recognize the difference between the two. Okay, so we see this tension between these two camps. And before we get to some solid examples, very quickly, what are some of the categories of bit AI that we should be aware of that we're going to get to the main gist of the matter at the end?
There are many categories of Veda
and I'll mentioned five of them. There's more than five of these five categories of Veda. The first of these categories bid fairly versus bid takia with a fairly versus bid Turkey bid, I felt ready to do something that was not
done by Dr. Kia to leave something that should be done. So Farrell Antarctic opposite, you do something new you abandon something that is there. Okay this is one way of categorizing it and there are again, you can think of so many examples okay. For example bit I tell Kia for example, is the the famous Hadith inside Bahati where Three men came to Asia, right? And they asked about the Prophet systems lifestyle, and they said, Oh, this is not as much as we want. It's not as strict as we want. So one of them said, What did they say everybody should know this hadith. Everybody should know this famous Hadith, the three men, one of them said, I'm going to fast every single day.
And the other one said,
I will pray every single night. And the third one said, I will give up marriage, this is fairly and Turkey together.
Because one groups that is going to do more, one group is ever going to give up marriage, I will expect Allah to reward me by abandoning marriage, this is fair bit I turkey. Right? I give up something and I want Allah to reward me this has stuck. I do something fast every day. This has fared so this is two examples. So two categories, okay, you can every category, I mean, sorry, every bit is either this or that. Another category B and by the way, all of these five categories, they're not mutually exclusive. You can in fact categories the same one in all five of them different ways, as you will see another category bid or the and bid. I'm earlier beta, theta and beta of action.
Beta of aqidah beta alpha theta from the SUNY perspective every non so new group is guilty of it Alpha Theta. Okay to deny other with al Qaeda to deny sooner with al Qaeda to believe in a group of Imams with al Qaeda. Okay, all of this bit it that this is a bit you are x you are believing in a fundamental principle that is not in the Sunnah this has been added to coverage they believe in this the other day I believe in this the more he doesn't believe in this the Jamia believe in this that offer believe in this so each one becomes groups of bid and that's why when we say Allah, sunnah, the opposite a halal Buddha, when you say a little bit there, you mean all of these groups combined?
So this has been at a cardio, okay, the belief and the belief but as we said it was found in the non Sunni groups you have to have. And by the way, this is when a group denies a fundamental of Sunni Islam or affirms the fundamental NotFound in Sunni Islam. We're not talking about the finer details, sometimes a very small issue even within Sunni Islam, you find difference of opinion. That's okay. We're talking about the fundamentals like Kadar, like Allah has attributes like Kiama like this. So all these are fundament or Iman and
the Imams, the Imams, we don't believe in Imams that are Mausam somebody comes along says Oh, Islam tells us you have to believe in continuous chain of Imams might assume that's a big deal. It's not a trivial so Buddha Arcada we have the right to call the Buddha amellia is action based with
action based bidder an action based with basically the types of bid as Annie some extreme
groups of mystical Tozawa they will
chant not I don't like to use the word dancing because it is disrespectful, they don't they don't intend to dance they want to experience ecstasy, ecstasy by motions okay. So, they will move in a very, very vigorous manner. And they think that this is rewarded by Allah and and this is whether the extreme groups many moderate the motor so if I don't like this, we should also be careful of not generalizing, one of the problems every group has, is stereotyping the other and making a big circle. There are no, there are many people that are Matsuzawa, that are pious, righteous, they follow the Sunnah, we should not throw the baby out with the bathwater, we should not discard all of
them. Within the soul. There are hundreds of groups, not just one, and many amongst them. They are very disapproving of those other strands. And you know, unfortunately, sometimes it's not good. But people send these WhatsApp videos of these, you know, shares doing these things. And you know, YouTube goes viral. And you know, I mean, in some ways, I guess it needs to be done, but it's not good to make fun of people. It's not good to do this. And we should and
of course, the issue comes we don't want children, our children or young people to become these types of people either. So there's a fine line between warning against and making fun of, okay, this is not something we approve of, but we should not mock other people we can disagree and refute and say this is not the way of the Prophet system is not the way of the Sahaba none of the harvests to students circles and jumped up and down doing wicked. It's doesn't look is not befitting and that's why Misha Imam Malik Imam Malik. He will
shocked when he heard people are standing up jumping up and down doing Vickery goes, he literally said Mr. Malik said, Are these people saying, like he couldn't understand, saying adult men are jumping up and down. So are they saying Are they in the insane asylum or something? Is that No, no, they're saying he just could not understand like, why would we be people doing that so we can warn against without making fun of it. That's been fairly. They're doing an action. Is that clear? It's all the verses fairly. Another
Amelie Yama. ference both same thing Emily is or salmon and Ferrell are not synonyms, but no problem. But fairly and bid Amelie are the same thing. Another category of bidder is a bid kuliah versus bid Jews ear bid. acqualina is basically a principle of bid. That leads to many other issues theologies and actions with aquileia is a fundamental principle that is a bit of a principle that leads to a whole host of problems. For example, bid, Kalia would mean that,
for example, we don't have to follow the Sunnah is a major bit actually, it's a fundamental issue that will lead to millions of other problems. For example, to claim that my share or my Imam must be followed without question. This has been a Kalia, for example, to claim that dreams are a source of Islamic law, which some groups claim if my share has a dream, it will be a source of Islamic law. This is bid aquileia Because what this does, it opens the doors for a million other bidders. So it is like a fundamental principle that opens up the door for many other issues. And obviously, with Aquila is basically a much bigger issue than a bit it was easy to see as a minor bit. So for
example, just I mean, one can say one can say some people have said group vicar.
Some have said group vicar is a bidder, just as one action. It's not changing anything else, just people coming and doing group vicar together and even this as we're going to come to even this is an issue of controversy is it without or is it to not be that
one can also categorize it out which is a little bit of a gray area who's going to categorize but people have done this that they'll call it major a bit and minor Buddha and Arabic is a bit Albacete land but I'm gonna cover and it's basically the equivalent of major sin versus minor sin. You know, not all sins are the same. Somebody murdering somebody else is not the same as, for example, the claim that and this is one of my problems when we speak English and we speak to the younger generation. We don't convey to them the word Haram is a huge spectrum. So when somebody says murder is haram, then five minutes later music is haram. Okay? Our children are teenagers literally like
they don't just it's incorrect, therefore, to not explained to them, Haram is a huge spectrum.
Not every Haram is at the same level. And that's why in Islam, we have major sin and minor sin. Okay, there's a more technical distinction. And
even for those who say music, as I said, it is one of the most trivial of minor sins, compared to murder, which is one of the biggest of major sins, still the technical term is haram. But see, so the point is within Be that as well, you have major bid, and you have minor bidder, meaning something is a very big deal. And something else could be utterly trivial. So not all bidders are created like is the point not all bids are the same level. And who gets to decide, again, our lemma and generally speaking, much is agreed upon, for example, for example, to deny other is a big bidder.
To deny other, I'm not going to believe in color, there is no predestination. It's not a trivial matter at all. To deny the Sahaba are righteous people, you know, the other group does that. And they say Abu Bakr or the villa remember this, they say things like this is not a trivial matter at all. You understand what I'm referring to so very big issue.
Group, vicar. Even if you say it is a bitter, it is a very trivial thing. Okay. So within bid as there's a whole spectrum as well, so not every bidder has the same evilness attached to it. Okay, the final category, which is the one that we're going to discuss in a little bit of detail, because this is where the main controversy occurs.
Is the category called beta healthy versus beta lafiya be the unhealthy layer versus beta Philadelphia. Beta healthy is a true bidder. So how can it be that Okay, and what this means is that
bringing something absolutely without precedent, there's
no other evidence to help support this new Buddha. It is completely unprecedented in the Sharia. For example, I would say,
standing up and jumping up and down when doing vicar is better how clear there is no evidence from the Quran from the Sunnah from the sahaba. It's baseless completely, generally speaking, bitter Hakata is pretty easy to spot. And generally speaking, most mainstream Sunni Muslims are not guilty a bit, Octavia generally is because it's too obvious. It's too obvious. The second category is where all of the controversy occurs. And that is Bidda. Ybor fear from medulla from a law for UEFA to add something on, okay, to add something you'll offer, so it's there, you just added a little bit, you just tipped the scales, that's a little bit added something is there, you just tweaked it. This is
what Allah means. And this is really where the controversy occurs between these two camps of Imam Shafi on one side and across Canada and all these great scholars in between them, because when it comes to be that your bar fee or maybe even the act is encouraged, or at least it is allowed, but what you've done is you've tweaked it just a little bit, you've added a time or you've added a place or you've added a number
so for example,
specifying a weird
every day was Evo dacb We'll call it right every Sophie Toyota has a wazifa with right everybody has a word you're Shadley you're an actual Monday or Tuesday or whatever okay
Audrey whatever you're gonna get a will depending on your level you're gonna go to the share give back to the sheriff and the sheriff was a here read this and what is it recite Corolla or three times? Recite it corsi seven times, recite who Hola, hola de la isla, who this many times do they Curtis via whatever. And generally speaking most mainstream thought he has everything on that card is pure, legit. Nothing wrong with it. But what has the chef done?
The number and the time after fajr this is your piece of paper after acid or Maghrib that is your piece of paper. Okay? Then you come back in three months, you've done the routine, okay? Now you rise up a level, get the next paper and so on and so forth. Now you go to the sheriff and you say, what is your evidence for this?
And he will say what is your evidence? This is wrong.
Why can't I read ITIL could see three times that you have to after five? Is there anything wrong with that? Why can't I read? Lila hello hello Kurume 77 times who said it's wrong? It's in the Quran and Sunnah to say, the horror hotel or villa. And if somebody just sat down after flooded and just say hola, hola. Hola. Hola. And it happened to be 77 So what right now you will say Oh, but you're specifying and he will say so what
was wrong? I'm not saying the process that I'm just saying it works for us. You see, this is vida de la for a year. Vida Illa fear you change something and of course this is where again we get to the issue of the molded the classic if they laugh over the molded now we're talking about the motor the dummy lad where know how wrong occurs once again have to be careful don't stereotype if there is a MILA in which there's music and dancing and women and men and we're not talking about that type of stuff. Even those Rola ma who allowed the modal say oh but this is not allowed. We're not talking about the moon carrot we're not talking about clear any you know haram and somebody that's shaking
we're not talking we're talking about Muslims coming together and singing praise of the Prophet system regular share or not. And talking about the zero and the follower, I love the prophets of Saddam, which if we had done it any other day, nobody would bat an eyelid
if we had done it any other day we say okay good come to LA but to do it on a particular day. And this is where again the issue comes better about fear you are fine tuning
or for example to somebody will say today's the mold free or yesterday or whatever, I'm going to recite 100 times follow up on the prophets of surah. Now any other day if you were to recite one or two mashallah, mashallah Excellent. But if they do it today, the other school says a soft Allah, why are you doing this? Right? This is where again, it gets to this issue, even to me and a Sharpie and others they said this is Bidda and it is bitter
lafiya So type of Buddha and Allah Rafi there is Abdus Salam and Noah we are Sookie you know Shafi before him
Have they all said? No. Why would this be wrong?
As long as you do not ascribe it to the Prophet saw seven. And you recognize that this is something that you're doing because the general Shetty allows this thing.
The general Shediac allows dhikr it allows not for the Profit System model, any, you know, share out of the Profit System, it allows for the oil. It allows sadaqa it allows and you come along and you specify time, place quantity, what not, and you think it is working for you. And they have many evidences for this as well. It's not as if it's coming out of the blue, and I'll give you some of them so we get an idea where they're coming from.
For example, Hadith isn't a Buddha wouldn't tell me the medina Saudi on the process, and
one day it was reading salah, and he stood up silent prayer, and he stood up and record and he said, Send me Allahu Lehmann Hamida, which translates as Allah, here's the one who praises him.
Or Sahabi. Right then in there, composed a thicker Insider.
Right? And he said, Robin our local hamdu Hamdan cathedra on a year by Mubarak confy mill as Samoa 2 million or 2 million will mash it dementia embargo. Allah said he made a beautiful response. After the Salah, finished the process and said, Who is the one who said it? The man was quiet Oh, did I do something wrong said Who is the one who set it for by Allah he did something good. So the man said it was an AI rasool Allah He said, Well, Allah He I saw 30 Angels, you know, racing to Allah to see who would be the first to give this phrase. Now what is the point that is being said here? The Sahabi from his own insula
gave a thicker
and the process and didn't say how dare you make your own vicar.
He allowed him to do it. Also, the famous Hadith of
the hush hush data 19 a bill in Jana. I heard your hush hush at an island in general right? said why? What do you do? What did Bilal say guys?
To raka after every will do play? Okay, where do you get this from?
Where do you get this from?
on his own?
on his own.
There is no Hadith that says when you do to raka sorry, when you do will do pray to Raka. But is it wrong to pray to Raka? No. So Billa said, You know what I want to do today, every time I do, right? The process of didn't say how dare you because praying to Africa is a part of Islam. And to fine tune specify. The other group says the other group says it's allowed. Okay.
The issue of Habib, even when he was going to be executed outside of Makkah, famous story we talked about in the Sierra, where the machico and Captain captured him and he was to be executed. He said, Okay, if you're going to execute me, I want to pray to Dhaka before you execute me. And it became the Sunnah,
that you know, in this culture before you executed you're given a seven course meal and our culture before you executed you're told pray to Dhaka because the difference by the way, but anyway, who's the one who started the praying have to Dhaka it's a sunnah in our Sharia whether you're executed justly or unjustly. If a volume Tyrant is going to execute you and you have the opportunity to pray to Allah
may Allah protect us from ever having to avail ourselves to that and if you're even being executed justly like the government Islamic government catches you on the executed even then, now where did holy I get this from? Nowhere. But is there anything wrong to pray to? See here's we're talking about right.
In terms of the hadith of cyber hottie as well, that Sahabi was passing through, and one of the chieftains of the tribe.
He said, I have a son who is sick or has any mercy has gin possession, whatever. So once a hubby said, Oh, I will read rocky over him. But on condition you give me 30 sheep long story because they initially denied any food and access. So that that was nasty of them to deny. Then they came back so well. Is there any Rockley amongst you? And the tribe was pagan and the Muslims, obviously Muslims, so one of them said, I will but if you want me to come, I'm going to charge you 30 Sheep like because you are so nasty to me like that. So he recited Surah Al Fatiha over the child and the child was cured. And by the way it is of the evidence as of June possession so the child was cured
and they tried to convert to Islam so they came back to the prophets Assam
The Prophet system said, What are you the Rika and the whole rakia? Who told you that Fattah itself is a Rokia?
The Sahabi was not told that out of the whole Quran Fatiha is one of the more powerful rookies. Now by the way, this is a very separate topic. I did the jinn class here, those of you that attended all of the,
the The Exorcist,
the Rockies, they have their specific ayat that they have learned to works for the jinn. It's not in the Quran and Sunnah. Meaning
my teacher, you know, I told you that I studied Rokia I studied under one of the Rockies of Medina, not to the University of Medina don't have a class called exorcism in Medina, you didn't take notes and the teacher is absent flying around? No, there's no such thing like that. I studied under a rocky and we went over some stuff. So, you know, he told me his philosophy about what to recite pseudo soft fat and this and not teaching me, where did he get it from?
Is it in a hadith? It's experience.
It's experience that is working for that person and recite this particular idea of this particular surah. So I know some of them, I don't want to teach you any disobey me, it's there you like this? I say it three times. This is 811 times. None of them are going to say it goes back to the process, but it works for them.
Right? And they'll say well, why not? If it works? So here the process of saying How did you know it was a rookie who taught you that out of the whole Quran Fattah. Now we know from that hadith and I know when I ever have to do May Allah protect me from doing I don't like doing but if some once every blue moon nobody in Memphis, I don't do it by the way. But if ever it happens, definitely factor as one of the things I recite. I know that from the Hadith, but the bulk of the rest of the stuff I recited is not in the Hadith. You understand what I'm trying to say here? Right? The fact that the sahabi just chose something. And the President says, where'd you Where'd you get this from?
Who told you that that is a utopia to do also the famous Hadith and Buhari as well, where the sahabi would resize to attend a class and every single guy said this many times in the unit, this Hadith from me, right? Who told him that it's allowed to recite your class, every single record? He did it? Because he wanted to do it. In every single raka he would recite sort of a class. Right? He's doing it and when they process them, here's he doesn't say how dare you I don't do that.
Again, don't misunderstand me those that came late. I'm talking about the two philosophies of Vida and you have the stricter shelter be even Tamia and you have the laxer Al Qaddafi
is the salam a Shafi so these are competing muda hip on vidaa. At this stage, I'm not making any third Jihad I'm just explaining what is what so that you understand. So you have this issue of the sahabi reciting Fatiha now. The issue of Omar Antara we go back to it. Why? Because both groups use this evidence and both groups interpreted to suit suit to their particular frames. As for the stricter camp, they say oh, but it's very clear that a hot dog is not doing anything new. Because the prophets ism did
the Tarawera in his lifetime
and as for the other camp they say no, you're missing the point. The Prophet system did not command or are we
it just so happened that he was praying and the people behind him decided to join he never once there's no Hadith about combining the people under throw out you're having a group coming then never it just happened accidentally. And that's why when a workers time nobody did it and half of it almost time nobody did it. And also the fact that you're going to announce we are going to have taraweeh after Isha which was rumor began. That is not something that was ever done. At the time of the Prophet saw some there's no command to pray in congregation. It just happened spontaneously. And so Omar Rhodiola one really is from the perspective of the other camp introducing fine tuning bid
out yield lafiya Is there anything wrong with tahajjud? No, is there any throne with enough recalibration Salah No. So then might as well fine tune after Isha nomadic nights of Ramadan and call it tarawih. You see this point here. Both camps interpret the Roma incident according to their visions and their paradigm. Also, we have the issue of
also we have the issue of Earthman Rhodiola. One adding the salt at the Yvan on Joomla to advance on Joomla which is now the majority position in the Muslim world. And there's nothing wrong with that even though we don't do it here. No problem. But where did the second event come from?
Earth man radula one he looked at the fact that the merchants need some time to prepare. You know and the goal of the event is to call people to the masjid. Okay, and because the merchants are going to take time
To wrap up and maybe even take a shower, what not, you know what it makes sense to add another event a little bit before the first one so that they can close shop and get their way to the masjid. What is he doing here? He is doing something the process of did not do. A boubakeur did not do or did not do. Now,
here's the point, the second cam says that's exactly what we're trying to say. The goals of the *tier are met. What is the purpose of the event? shut shop and get to the masjid. If the first one is not doing his job, and OMA or sorry, with man says, You know what? We need one for these guys. Then what's the problem? That's what the second example say? What is the problem with the second event? Let them do it. Because the goal of the Sharia is not as if he said, we're going to ring a bell, which would be Bidda.
He's using something from the Sharia and fine tuning within the goals of the Sharia. And they go back to the Hadith, men had atrophy and Medina had ma Lisa Minho, whoever introduces into this affairs, that which has nothing to do with it. And then they say, and beta Adelphia has things to do with it is within the tradition is not outside the tradition. So no doubt, there's a whole spectrum over here. And we're getting almost to the end here. I want to be very, very frank,
in my estimation, this issue of beta lafiya. And be the maraca
better, better, healthier, sorry, better, healthier and better, Adolphe, this issue, and my humble opinion, is a genuine legitimate issue of ft laugh in our Oma. And we should therefore tolerate the other position and respected as a legitimate position, even if we hold one position. Okay, this has been my view since I have come to MIT, which is why I have never made a big deal of the moment, never, it's not something that I consider to be a big deal whatsoever, if it is done properly, if it is done properly, and Alhamdulillah the majority of molds in the world are done properly that where there is there is the kicker and you but if there is jumping up and down and you think the process
is common, you keep a chair empty for him. This is this is we need to just stop that, you know, that's not. So we don't make it a big deal. Even if I personally am obviously sympathetic to event Amias for one simple reason. The closer you are to original, the better it is, you know, it's just safer to be on the more
conservative side, because today you're going to do one change tomorrow, another and another. And then by the time you get to the end 20 generations later, you will not recognize the final product. And what we need to do or we need to check out here is that even amongst the Sahaba we have some of these tensions beginning. And the classic example is the issue of the compilation of the most half the compilation or even before this, the choosing of a HollyWell in the time that both of these issues. The competition the most half when Abu Bakr Radi Allahu Allah was approached by Omar to compile the most of what did Abu Bakr say?
This is essentially the more conservative camp. How can I do with the process? Some didn't do. And Omar is basically the more open minded in this case, like look, it's not against it's not wrong. Now, and again, the same can be said about earthmen mandating one must have an easy all the other must have have to be destroyed. You have to follow my Mazel Tov, right and even Masaru didn't like that because it was I heard the Quran I have mine why did why did why do I need to follow you I accepted Islam before you and etcetera, etcetera, right. He had his his viewpoint in that regard. Also, I mean, we can give you so many examples, the development of the most half itself the script
of the most have the calligraphy of the most have the dots, Mr. Malik did not like to put dots on the Quran, he said it's better. Can you believe that? Imam Malik said we should keep the Quran the way it was. Now I challenge anybody in this room to try to read a Quran without dots and to scale and docket. Let's see Wallahi I struggle I have a manuscripts on file and whatnot that don't have it. Right. It takes me a few minutes. I'm not exaggerating at least a minute. I have to sit and see what is this? Even I and I am an hamdulillah somebody who knows Quran very well. It's difficult for me. Imam Malik said it's been who follow the mathematics for two how's that possible? It's not
possible to keep that level of purity, right? said this is a bit odd that you're going to change the Quran. I don't think anything should be changed from the Quran. And we see where he's coming from. But now look at the Quran. beautiful calligraphy decorated all of the and who says anything about it. We like it. We like it.
But many Imam Ahmed would hate the Zarafa of the Quran I need the the geometric patterns he would not like this at all. So this has also been okay we understand that early generation they they they are puritanical and good for them, but me and you, it helps us we to read the Quran to respect the Quran, no problem right so, as well as well, deciding the Khalifa. The fact that Abu Bakr Siddiq nominated Omar
and realize in Islam,
siesta is a part of Islam. And the governance is a part of Islam. And the mechanism of governing and who to decide the next candidate the process and didn't leave one person. He didn't say Abu Bakr. And Omar said, I'm going to sorry, oh, because I'm going to choose Omar. And Omar therefore said, If I don't choose, I have the process and before me, and if I choose a worker before me who chose I don't know which one to do, because I'll choose six of you. Also, it's something that came different. Now when one can also say that
there are many aspects that are kinda sort of in this gray area, they are Islamic, yet not quite Islamic. They are within Islam, yet not quite outside of Islam, and people have changed them. For example, how do we teach Islam? We how do we teach yourself professionally? We divided into courses Fick, Tafseer, Hadith, al Qaeda? Did any Sahabi have a dose of al Qaeda on Tuesday, and adults of film on Monday? Didn't work that way. Right? There is a system there's a level you begin low level work your way, you know, higher up and the madrasa system as well. I mean, all of this is something that the Sahaba did not do. And within the tabula Winterbottom urine All of this began, in fact,
even the writing of the books, a shill initially, it was not that everybody had everything up here. Everybody had everything up here. That's why the first Hadith book it took 170 years in mathematics motto, that's why it took people didn't like it. They didn't want knowledge to be in the books that you just go by something. They wanted you to study man on man. And even then you have to get one on one. Anyway, that's besides the point is the whole system of teaching Islam, where did it come from? Now, in response to this, the structure and method is going to say, oh, but this isn't these are all not examples of it. They're going to use a technical term well suited fit, which we don't have time
today, nor is this the audience has called Mozilla Mozilla. It's an issue of solid fake where there's generic benefit for the people. And I don't want to get into the technicalities, but because you know, some people watch online and they have knowledge and whatnot. I will say for the record,
the bid, Adolphe and the masala hammer salah, there is an overlap between the two. And it is a gray area in between, there is no clear distinction between the two. So the issue of compiling the most half, this group will say Oh, that's not better. That's Muslim masala. They're just going to get it out. But the point is, the other camp says it is a bit out in its own way. So linguistic Buddha, they expected Allah to reward them for compiling the most half. It is a part of the religion. It is something that is done for Islam. And they didn't find anything wrong with that, and they say, then you can make many other issues. And if you look at the OMA Subhanallah, this is the problematic
issue, even most of the conservative school.
They have adopted practices that were not found in the earliest of generations, and they consider it to be a part of Islam. And I don't have a problem with that. I don't have a problem with that. For example,
the issue of finishing the Quran insalata Torah, we even Omar did not start that by the way to finish the Quran in Torah we this is the norm across the globe. The whole issue of tarawih at the process of did not legislate it. This is very clear he did not legislate it's a tacit approval, or Omar is the one who legislated but even that Okay, how about even in the Haramain everywhere, from Fatiha to NAS, you're going to finish on the last day and you're expected to recite within the tarawih and people expect Allah to reward them for attending that Quranic recitation, and then another bidder Illa fear and it is bit out of fear but I don't consider it to be a problem at all.
Technically, it is a bit out of fear, and I don't have any problem with it. It is it is really Mr. Hub in my opinion, the hotma Quran the other takes place in tarawih Salah even in the Haramain what is the evidence from the Quran and Sunnah when did the process of ever do a hum Quran and then have a long dua
Where did it's a rich religious ritual that is taking place? It is a ritual and is taking place within the Salah and it has become an expected ritual which is why if you go
to Makkah on the Hudson Quran May Allah help you to get out when you're done like two hours minimum to get out right? Three and a half million people come you know more than Hajj they come from from Quran it's a ritual How is it not a ritual and the process of never did none of the Sahaba did it none of the tab your own ever did it. And it's something that you expect Allah to reward you it has become a special holy night people traveled to go and attend it. And there is a special ritual that was not done in early Islam. And I don't have a problem with it. Right, by the way, and we'll get to this point.
A very small strand within the conservatives, yes, they are going to be fair to their also and they will say all of this has been a bitter, bitter, bitter and they will say it and even the average was like come on. That's a bitter. So here's the point there is a spectrum in this and it's a gray area. It's a gray area. Yeah. And the issue comes as well for example reciting Quran for the deceased. I'm not talking about Quran, honey on the 40 day, I'm just saying, you miss your grandfather, your mother, your father, you said let me just recite Surah Yaseen and bless them. The vast majority of the scholars allowed this even Tamia allowed even basil out this even the more hardcore scholars
they allowed it
quote me one Hadith where the process of allowed Quran for the dead you won't find it caught me one excerpt from a Sahabi where he said recite Quran for there you will not find it, but they thought you know, if Zeca is a I mean sadaqa is allowed or disallowed, then why not Quran as well. So they allowed some, some fine tuning. They didn't say this to be that big of a deal. Another common issue which even even Tamia allowed is the Messiah disappear
that this be an issue right? Are these days mashallah the iPhone clicker? The itis behalf? You can I'm not joking. There's itis where you haven't suffered a loss of stuff for Allah
the issue of having 33 stones and just got or 100
or Mashallah 1000 Mashallah.
Pretty much the whole OMA has accepted it, no big deal, like I said, even had been Tamia said, Okay, it's better to do on your fingers, but it's not a bit odd to do it on the spirit stones. It's not a problem to do, you know, like that. And so many other you know, issues you find as well. And again, the issue of the mode, for example. Yeah, neither. Half of the been hedger is very frank, it's a very beautiful photo. We've been hijacked. He goes, Look, in a technical sense, of course, it's a bit odd. He says this had been hijacked. in a technical sense. It's a bit of the process of didn't do it. The Sahaba didn't do it. But if on that day, people come together, give some charity, recite
the for the oil of the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam they do thicker than it is with a Hasina. What's wrong with that? What is wrong? There's even Hajj and I'm quoting him, What is wrong with reviving the love of the process in the hearts of the people, if it is done in a good manner? You understand? Going back to that issue of Buddha, what category and philosophy you come under? Right? And the cap that allows it says, You know what, we'll even find you some precedents. What is that precedence? They said, the issue of the process, I'm saying, I was born on a Monday, so I want to fast to Allah on that day. The other counselors are, but that's faster on a Monday. And the other
camp says, No, you're missing the point. He said, he wanted to commemorate the day he was born.
That is the awesome to commemorate the day he was born. So we will fast on Mondays. And if we also do something on the day he was born. Why would that be wrong, though? The other camp is gonna say this, and they will also say, the issue of Ashura. When the hood were celebrating the saving of Musa and the person said, Oh, that's why you're doing it. And that case, we have more right to be happy for Musa then you and the camp, the other campuses, the point is, the process is allowing, celebrating on the day of a victory.
And the question arises, how far do you go in this in this regard? So let me ask you a question. When
the month of Ramadan is around the corner, do you not expect me to give hope buzzin gurus about Ramadan?
Of course you do. Did the processing ever have a long kotoba about Ramadan three weeks before preparing them spiritually mentally? As far as we know he didn't do the Sahaba do that? No, he didn't. One is
Muharram time
and the Hijiri calendar is going to change. Once in a while I'll give a hoot about the Hijra.
The importance of in fact, I've done this in MIT at least twice. I've done this last eight years.
I'll give a hoot about the hedgerow and I'll remind you of the importance of the Hijra right before the Hijra. The date is going to change I give you the Hijra about the age right
In Ramadan, we talk about budder. And we talk about Angel route, we talk about this and that. If somebody were to come along and on the 12th, talk about the prophets of Allah, you understand the philosophy is very similar, if not exactly the same.
You see, this is really where both of these camps are, are coming from how extreme do you go really in this in this regard? And that is really the issue. And I mean, just on a personal anecdote, yesterday, which was supposed to be the 12. And obviously, in my opinion, Aslan, we don't know when the process was born, the eighth or the 10th of the 12 or three opinions, Aslan. But that's besides the point. I mean, the majority thinks that well, let them think it is not a big deal. I posted on Facebook, just some generic post about the blessings of the Prophet system, not one peep or squeak about molded or Zikr. Or is that nothing, just a generic post about
the blessings of the process? And I'm and we have to love him in this in that Subhanallah read the comments any other day, but today, there's the comment. Okay, brother, today, you have to say the motor, there's a bit, I didn't mention anything in the post. So you see, what happens is a counter reaction, right, which we're all aware of, which honestly irritates many people, including myself. It's an extremist counter reaction, where you can't even speak generically without being shut down. And that is also a problem here. And the fact of the matter is within the conservative cabinet, there's nothing wrong with because and I myself, ally with this kind of more, so I'm not denigrating
them, I myself, feel comfortable with advantageous position. But my point is even even Taymiyah was very open minded about this issue. And he was not harsh about the molded, read what he has written. And he says very amazingly, he says,
he thinks is a bitter, he thinks we should not be done. And then he says, even though in all likelihood, the majority of people who celebrate it, they will get reward from Allah for their good Nia.
This is even Tamia writing this, even Taymiyah writes, I have no doubt that the majority of people that are doing it will be rewarded, because their NEA is good. They want to show respect to the Profit System. But I just don't like it. This is my opinion. 110 This is me. There is no harshness, no ranting and raving, no battle, intellectual battle, nothing. Just as Look, I don't like it shouldn't be done. But I know that most of the people who do it, Allah will reward them for it. And you know, I sympathize with this. Because like I said, on the one hand, if you open the door, then change, change, change change. On the other hand, it is a bit of a gray area, because I'm still
going to give you a whole buzz about Ramadan, before Ramadan. And I'm still going to talk about, you know, the hijab before the Hindu and I'm still going to, you know, talk about things when they need to be discussed. So if somebody were to do the same about the Syrah and the Molad
Why should that be problematic? Now, the problem comes when it goes beyond, as we said, what is allowed in Islam. And we should also point out there is this ultra extremist faction, which is faithful to its version of of, you know, Bidda and because of this, they pronounce things to be better, that even the most average innocent Muslim will scratch their head and say, You must be joking, but they are faithful to the literalist definition. So for example, they will say that, and I know teachers who say this of mine, to have Quranic recitation gatherings is a better to have the quarry, recite the Quran like other Bossard word and all the Quran and everything, Baha Masha Allah,
Allah say, Allah, Allah, Allah, Allah, Allah. Ironically, this has been because the Sahaba never did it never. And it's true. They never set up their Bossard style, everybody's doing this and that and it becomes a ritual and the remaining firm in that regard. And they will say that having these lines and so forth is better. Because the Sunnah, is that the Imam should visually check
should visually check like the Prophet system would walk between the so forth and check the soft, so it's better to have this right. They would say that it's better to give the Yvan inside the Masjid.
On this microphone, it's a Buddha. You have to give the Sudan outside the masjid as was the Sunnah.
Right and I know massage even in North America I've seen with my own eyes following that strict ended this year called Daniel mentioned this a strict version of Islam so they will literally open the door walk outside with the microphone. Ironically, 50 years ago group said it's better to use the microphone.
I'm not exaggerating. I'm not exactly
Doing some of you laugh at this right groups, in nudged. And in India, Pakistan, it's not just nudge the thing in Pakistan as well, you know, I'm not today still,
they still think it's better.
I know that in the 60s, I know, for a fact, I've done my research in this regard.
That Obama in the 40s, and 50s, and nudged. And in the 60s in Pakistan, India, I know, because I've done this research might be other places. But in these two lines, they said it is a bid
to use the microphone. And sila is Barton.
Because you have to hear the human voice, not the electric voice. So they would not allow a Dan and Salah on the microphone.
And you know what, from their perspective,
we can see, they are remaining firm, so much. So again, the same chef, I mentioned May Allah raised his ranks, he was a great item in his own way. I don't have to agree with everything. He says he would say the famous footwear that he said that the member of the Hockey League has to be exactly three steps. If it's more or less bitter,
because from his perspective, the member is what the hottie stands on, which is Islam.
And so whatever the process and him did to change that bit, I lafiya is going to become better. So he would say it's a bit odd to have four or two or one or has to be exactly three. Now, to what level do you take it? So then why don't we construct the same exact structure that existed? Why have only three? Why are you stopping at three? How come you don't take the same utensils and have that thing as well? Right? How about the masjid structure itself? And so how much how much you're gonna go in this regard. So the bottom line,
realize that this issue of fine tuning and bid i lafiya, it's a gray area, and something that has precedence in Islam. But you come and you kind of fine tune it, you give it some extra what not? Some scholars said that it is permissible for Allah imagine that this is not the average Muslim, as somebody who has done something research and whatnot, it is permissible, and it is they would call it a good bit. And they say it is allowed this is not the wrong bit that they do. And other groups of scholars say no, we really should be more conservative here. And I say even those that are conservative, within their ranks, you will find even a spectrum and many of them will be doing
things that the set of themselves did not do. And that's fine. I don't see a problem with this and for me, to err on the side of caution is better. And we should try to keep pure as much as possible. But when it comes to these beta Adelphia issues, which is not pure besides a trivial beta, we should be generous spirited, we should realize that even if we think that it is a bitter, there are many aroma who do not think so and there are great aroma. And in the end of the day, Allah azza wa jal will reward and punish people based upon their Nia.
And if a person is following a great item, and he would Can you see him I'm in no way said it's Mr. Hub, or it's soon. He said it's been almost a habit at the moment, right? Yeah, Massoud he said this Imam and even agile said this, you know, okay, you can quote even Tamia till you're blue in the face and I agree with you. What are you going to do with the other Allama? What they still exist, and they have that position. So accept and respect and tolerate and my whole life I have never celebrated about it. I don't need to have the delay. I don't see the need. The love of the process should be every single day. And I feel this and inshallah I hope I practice it. But I understand for
some people,
their Eman is renewed. I understand for certain groups of people, they hardly come to the masjid and they'll come on this day. So why should I become somebody who makes this petty issue such a big one creating fitna and facade and what not. That's their business as long as clear haram does not occur, then we will say no to that want to conclude with a very, very, very interesting verse, which will give us food for thought. And it is in surah, Al Hadid,
the ending of Surah Al Hadith, where Allah subhanaw taala mentions he served Imodium and that people came after him who were righteous and they believed in him and then Allah mentions So listen to this whare Bernie yet and he said that Ruha market Abner Allah him in the Abdullah word Hilda wa found out our our Hakkari IoT ha we're taking the lead in and I'm gonna meet him at your home because he Roman who festival? This is a very deep verse understand it. Allah is talking about the
Good followers of Jesus, okay, the righteous followers. Allah says, The monasticism Raha Ania? What is monasticism? To cut off from society? Go live in a cave and worship, don't get married, don't have kids don't you know, monks, monks. And to this day there are monks, you know, I met somebody in Memphis at a interfaith dinner, young man, 22 years, last year, two years ago. And he was really excited, because he was going to join an order. Here in Oregon, I think in America, one order only exists like this, where they take a vow of silence for life.
I was shocked, shocked will lie. He was excited. He was going to enter in two or three weeks, and for the rest of his life, he wouldn't be speaking.
And so he was chatting away eagerly. Last few weeks of his life, he can chat, you know.
And small group, they farm they if they have to communicate, they will write to each other, but they don't say anything. Except hymns. That's all they can say. Or no communication. This is Rod Vania. Extreme verdura. Allah says whare Barnea, this monasticism, Ebro teda Ooh ha.
Vida.
This is the only time in the Quran that Allah uses the word Buddha the way that we just met EBITA Ruha. This is their bitter marketer now highly. I didn't tell them to do that. Allah did not tell them to do that. Right? But then Allah says, It loved the HA, which Allah, but they did one in LA. I said, What Sheila was wrong, it was one in LA.
But they did it for the pleasure of Allah. Notice here, this is a very, very profound verse, if you follow the whole lecture, this verse, you will understand my philosophy. Allah is saying, I didn't tell them to do that. But they did it for the pleasure of Allah.
He criticizes, then he praises.
That's not something from me. But I know they did it for me.
And then Allah says Another criticism after that, but they didn't live up to their own standards.
Look at the church. Enough said, you get the point. You get the point. I don't need to elaborate right? They didn't live up to their own standards. Then Allah says, As for those who did good, we shall give them the reward. You know, those people for five 600 years before the coming of the process, and they spent their lives worshipping Allah. Allah says, I didn't tell them to do that. But I know they did it for me. And those that lived up to it, I would reward them.
But many of them are festival. What does this verse tell us? Sometimes, sometimes, some people in their extreme love, do things they shouldn't be doing. And they shouldn't do it. And if we have knowledge and wisdom, we should encourage them not to do it. But if they keep on doing it, and they believe in Allah and they're doing good deeds, Allah will look at that Nia. And Allah might even reward them, as they've been Tamia said that Allah will reward them on their good near. So keep things in perspective, and be academic who need to be and be sympathetic and empathetic when needs to be. The bottom line is that there's no doubt that a clear bit that contradicts the Quran and
Sunnah, that introduces, and also a foundation that is not here. This is something we should not tolerate at all, we should all unite against that. But these types of bid Adolphe that we talked about, and they gave all of these examples, we should realize that this is an area that the EU itself has differed over, follow your position, I have mine and respect and tolerate the other position Sharla. With that, we have some time for q&a. So Bismillah Jota is Bismillah.
will ask about
so the
the issue of Aktiva comes here
of following the Sunnah. And as we said, Yes, this is the default of following the Sunnah should be done. But realize from the perspective of the shaft very definition. This is following the Sunnah, the process of allowed the leeway. We gave so many examples from the Sahaba themselves. So they would say there is an awesome that is allowing this fine tuning. That's the point. You understand there's a whole paradigm shift here. For you and me maybe the way we have been raised as the last 1015 20 years. We want an explicit specific evidence for this one issue. And if we don't find it, we shut the door and throw it out the window. And the other campus saying no, you don't need an
explicit specific evidence, as long as there's a generic evidence
Once you see the difference of philosophy, and as I pointed out even within our own School and Camp, there are a number of practices that are now prevalent and there is no explicit evidence for that's what I wanted you to think about okay? Sisters nothing back to their brothers was in many
videos institutionalized institutionalize that becomes people have have the maybe to some degree that they keep it when you institutionalize. And you make other people to say if you don't want to do it, you're not that important or you will not get the reward and get the sense of time that underlying Pakistan or India that they would do
before this
becomes kind of excellent point and that is institutionalizing the preaching these types of things, making it the norm. All of these things is why it is better to err on the side of caution. That's why I am sympathetic definitely to the more cautious side, because you keep on adding these bit io lafiya. And the final result is unrecognizable from the first one. So yes, I am sympathetic to it. Right. So the group vicar or the dua after the Salah, which is the norm across our countries, you know, India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, after the salam, there is a group dua, everybody does it. Right. It's something that is done in torchia. Right there is group thicker, right, everybody does it. And
again, the other group says this has been and they will say what do you mean, it's better than I thought that I think 33 times of Adela 32 times, it's straight from the Sunnah. Right? And the responses but the process and the Sahaba did it and they didn't do it in group and other responses. So what if they didn't do it in a group it's not a big deal to do it in a group right? It's back and forth. And then the issue comes for example, and so here's the point. I agree with you the read the read the E tech buret right there ETUC bereits that we all give at the convention in the stadium. Many of the conservative road Mr. Say, it is better to retake the road in one voice
now, I challenge you to get 10,000 people in a stadium chanting Takbeer and they don't unify themselves automatically.
It's impossible
impossible, you try to be against the crowd okay to one person when they started lowering but you started almost see what happens.
Fit threaten you just go with the crowd number one number two, honestly, who amongst us can deny the field that we get? Not that the Sharia is based on the verse you didn't even think about this? Even though the other camp Mendiola must say it is better? And will Allah Who upon their soul it is because the same group that says the Turkish ticket is better? How can I read this decree whether I should be allowed and you see what I'm saying here is the same soul but the same group that says those is better they will generally speaking in the How to man they have the group there, you know, I'm saying so even that group that consider and I don't want to be too dismissive, even that group
that considers us ought to be following the setup and Quran and Sunnah and whatnot. In the end of the day, you find within their ranks rituals and habits that really is not found in the earliest of times and my point is so what but his point is very valid to what level because you can keep on adding and changing and as I said, you know, you go to a hardcore whatever Masjid you know, and from beginning to end like what is going on here? You know, I barely recognize anything other than the Fatiha everything is this and vicar that allow this and that's like you just feel out of place so to what end and that's why I said we should be reasonable and more on this side than that one okay.
Actually you had a pretty good good good
day the Profit System lead and enough Asana this one to hit us right now we just did it in the in the throwaway
people just prayed behind him this has nothing
he didn't do it at the gym and number one number two, the whole issue of solid test is it authentic or not is a big controversy. Some aroma say the hadith is not authentic and others is authentic. So he and even if he did it, even if he did it hadith is hadith of Abbas. Reported in Hakim and designer there's even if he did it, it was his own or he told Abbas to do it. He did not lead people in it
knock on wood was done and forth. He didn't lead a special note. Yeah.
In Mirage, it would also be enough for Salah it would also be enough for to Rica, but again it would be Yeah, it was enough.
Allah different time a different place in different people but yeah it is an offence Allah so he did but the point is he did lead now for Salah
It is narrated that he led not for Salah okay yes in the back cord
so again this issue comes of how much strength do you want to be and the issue of teaching children we should always be more lacks Imam Malik said, I don't want dots and fish kill in the Quran. But then he said except for the Quran for the young children, they need to learn
this as an Imam Malik said this like I understand for the kids, they need to do this, I'll follow the spirit of Imam Malik wala hits a problem if adults want to build a cup of record replica of the cabin, that's definitely a problem. And I say something is seriously wrong there. But for the children to do it, to get a sense of what it is nobody not even you know, and you know, my own sons and daughters participated in the PVS thing. I didn't expect them to actually think this is nobody even the five year old knows we're making a replica and they just get excited about the real thing not this year. So I don't see any problem in this whatsoever. Not at all Sharla is gorgeous.
Exactly.
point that you walk a fine line to one by the following you know this all inclusive, you know giving concession or too much and taking your word out of context and really
the danger to
working in a very tight line. Thank you for reminding me
I don't think is going to be taken out of context. I am very clear and I have said this explicitly on Facebook and on my videos and even in my articles. I have felt held this position really for the last
almost 10 years definitely not 15 years ago definitely not but definitely almost a decade and that is that the issue of the molded is not one that we should make a big controversy over. I don't celebrate it. I've never felt the need to celebrate it honestly will lie I've never felt an emptiness about the moment I don't feel the need hamdulillah Inshallah, the love of the process and we need to revive it every day and whatnot, I don't feel the need. But if it is done in a decorum of Islam,
then I don't consider this to be a major problem.
Really, I don't if it is done with proper vicar now when it wouldn't be a problematic when either fascia such as sometimes you have many women intermingling in the same place. Jumping up and down is almost like a stop for Allah and it does happen on the street level. In some places street, I would say inshallah no Masjid does just Inshallah, no matter what happens in the masjid inshallah is not there. But on the street celebrations in Buxton, in Birmingham, in some places, you get all over the crowds in their happiness. And when you have young men or women together, what's going to happen is going to happen, no share even of that thought he was gonna say, That's good, right? So you have
that problem. And then you have the other problem, that sometimes there's a theology exaggeration, invoking the prophets as Adam, saying that he has arrived to our gathering, leaving a space open for him, you know, this is now a bit out of another nature, where we say that's a problem. It's a theological problem. But if people have generic points, and they talk about the philosophy of the Prophet SAW Selim, I mean, if we have done it any other day, nobody bats an eyelid but just to do on this day people become anti well light I find this a problematic thing you know, and it's literally as if you're becoming a software Allah anti the blessings of the process of them. And I demonstrated
with this Facebook post, that some people literally got irritated Wallahi I didn't even mention the Molad nothing. Just I caught it even Tamia just to make sure my show that the baraka familia coded even Taymiyah quoted him now Kareem quoted some of the stuff so this is the blessings of the Prophet system. We have to love him the two zero to zero, right how beneficial Samina ima simple generic post and Wallahi. People got irritated at that think the problem of this exaggeration creates a mindset. That is a problem. That's what I'm saying. It's a problem. That's why I want us to be more open minded. Even if we hold our positions I still say technically speaking salary. The broad motive
is a bit like you've been hedger said, whether it's been a hustler or not. It's a bit of luck.