Roaming Ramadan 2024 #29 From DUCK-Dunya to DUCK-Wah – Kuala Lumpur

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A professional Muslim man is trying to sell items online and is trying to sell Islam-related items. The guest is interested in learning about Islam and bringing people to events. They discuss their journey to become a better woman and emphasize the importance of finding their own values. The speaker emphasizes the need for people to consider their deials when evaluating finances and mentions success in Islam and organizing events. They also encourage listeners to pray for their sister's success.

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My brothers, my sisters in Islam will come

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back to another episode

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of Roaming Ramadan

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lessons on the road.

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Today I have a very dear guest. I

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will introduce her in a while. I actually

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wanted to introduce her

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from her

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blurb of her book titled The First

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Decade,

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and the reason why I wanna read it

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to you because this is how I got

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to know her after act actually meeting her

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in person. So when I met sister

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Vivi Yousof in person,

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she didn't tell me about anything,

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that I'm gonna read for you now. So

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for example, she said she started to blog

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on the Internet, and then she borrowed

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16,000

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US dollars.

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And then now according to her, she said

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she had built a multimillion

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dollar

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fashion company.

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Everybody say, Masha Allah Tabarakal.

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Please. Please. I'm sorry. Now the reason why

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I'm reading this to you, a part of

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what's written at the back of her book,

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is that when I met her in person,

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she told me that she went to the

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UK.

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She did some studies, some work, and then

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she started something online. And then she said,

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and the business was well, Lenny. We did

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well.

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That's all what she said. Yeah. And

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when I read this and I saw that,

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mashaAllah,

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you established to you an empire of a

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brand that is very well known, not just

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in Malaysia, but in also surrounding neighboring countries.

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What came to mind the word humility and

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humbleness.

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Why you didn't introduce me to yourself

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as the one and only

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duck?

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The duck. The duck. Please duck. He keeps

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calling us. Who build this, multimillion

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dollar company.

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Why you did not emphasize that when you

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met me to invite me for an event

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here in Malaysia?

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There was not enough time. That's okay. So

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so if you had the time, you would

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have bragged on everything.

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I I don't know. I felt so,

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I I don't know. No one's ever asked

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me that, but I just wanted to

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to to talk to you about the community

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more than me and my brand or me

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as a business person.

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Because when I met you, it was more

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on the

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personal

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spiritual growth that I think,

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I I'm on, and I want to invite

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my community and my followers along. So I

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didn't want it to be about the brand

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or about business.

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And and this is what astonished me most

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because most people who come to talk to

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speakers, they have a name card business. Oh,

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a whole paragraph about themselves. They they introduced

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us because they wanted to know who they

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are so that we can be, wow.

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I wanna be with this guy. You see?

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So, that was the first thing that caught

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my attention

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and actually made me feel comfortable coming back,

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working with you, Alhamdulillah. We had a blast.

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It's amazing.

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A weekend full of,

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inspiration, Quran,

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night prayer,

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tahajjud,

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and so many, so many other activities and

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workshops

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that, alhamdulillah, we, we, we've been reading the

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feedback that were sent by the participants on

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our pages and,

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I'm I'm sad it ended. Like, I need

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it to be longer. Absolutely. I need you

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to stay here to all the way till

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Eid. Now here are the here here's one

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of the question that the reason why I

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got you on camera for my program. Okay.

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You are into business Yes.

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Selling

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hijabs Yes. Scarves and bags and stuff like

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that. Clothes. Yeah. Why did you invite a

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person like myself

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to teach Islam to your community?

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And this is your first event ever of

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that type, like, you know, Islamic event.

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Yeah. So all this while, you know, of

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course, being a fashion brand, we have to

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do the fashion stuff, like,

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the the previews,

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the fashion shows, and all. But

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I've always thought, you know, I have been

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blessed with having followers and a big community

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online. And

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is that all I wanna do for them?

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Like, sell them things, you know.

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Beyond that, I feel like I have a

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bigger

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purpose or maybe almost giving me, like, a

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this this whole reach and testing me. Like,

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what are you gonna do? You know, are

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you just gonna

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see dollar signs and and just sell them

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things? But to me, I thought

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it would be so nice to

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to give them back something as well. So

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I'm on my own, you know, journey of

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wanting to be a better Muslim, a better

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person,

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and

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I've started to learn a lot of things,

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and I've been going to Islamic talks. And

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I just

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thought every time I go, I feel like

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it's changing my life.

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And I feel more fulfilled. I feel more

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calm. I feel happier.

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And

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it's just that you're earning or wanting to

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learn. And then when you wanna learn, why

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not bring everyone with you as well? So,

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I I met you when you were giving

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a talk and I just loved the way

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you deliver.

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You have an amazing gift,

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and you're funny. I always say that he's

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very funny actually. Unbelievable.

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So and and for for people like me,

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if you go really hard on the rules

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and all, like, I may turn away or

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I'm like, it may feel intimidated. Let let

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me let me interrupt you here. Okay. Of

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course, we we we

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every speaker, every scholar, every chair, everyone has

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his own style of addressing Yeah. These topics.

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I I can't imagine myself

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going

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full force and hard on people.

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But and and the reason is that I

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believe

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if I don't use my own personality in

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delivering anything, it will not reach the hearts

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of the people. So that's who I am

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actually off camera, and you probably have observed

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that.

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The jokes that I I I throw at

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the people and You also do that. I'm

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the same with the camera. At home, I

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everywhere I go, that's me, and I don't

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wanna change it. Yeah. But that's, of course,

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we don't belittle of other Moshay who are

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a little bit tough. So we need that.

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Some people, they don't actually wake up from

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the sleep

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unless the some of the masha'ed go hard

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on them. Some people be like that approach

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which resonates with you. So everyone has his

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own way, masha'Allah. But the question remaining,

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Why now? Because many people think that when

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we look at you, Mashallah, we observe sister

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Vivi when we go down the market, people

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recognize her, Mashallah.

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They ask her to, you know, come with

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the for photos and stuff like that. So

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despite your popularity

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and the fame and the wealth, alhamdulillah, that

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you have established,

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you're still feeling

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that there's something missing.

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What is that thing?

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I don't know. I think I think it's

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that

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I I don't know. I can't explain it

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to words, but it's just the feeling of

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it'll never be enough, you know, if it's

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just about business, you know, whether whether you're

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making 1,000,000 or 10,000,000, it's never enough. You're

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always like, okay. I need to make more

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more more. There's just never that satisfaction.

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But, and also

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never having peace of mind. I don't know

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if there are entrepreneurs watching, but if you

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have a business,

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you can't sleep at night because you're you're

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drinking. I never sleep at night.

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Because you're doing the hot jewelry massage. That's

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what I meant.

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No. But you you just you're constantly worrying.

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You're worrying for your staff. You're worrying for

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their families. You're worrying for whether I can

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pay salary. You're worrying whether you have, you

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know, you can meet your sales target. You're

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always worrying. So

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I I went through that,

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especially during the pandemic, and I felt like

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this cannot be what life is all about

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all the time, you know.

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And then I started

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I I went through something online, and then,

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I started

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picking up the Quran, and I read Surah

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by Surah, but this time, I read the

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meaning. So here in Malaysia, we always, get

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forced by our parents when we're young to

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go for,

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religious classes like Quran classes, but just to

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read read and cut off read and cut

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off. Right? But we never fully understand the

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meaning.

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And so now as an adult, I'm like,

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okay. I need to learn each Surah and

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know what what am I reading, actually.

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So I went through it Surah by Surah,

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and I took notes.

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And that was, like, the best Ramadan I've

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ever had because I went through something

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quite,

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like being online, being on social media, I'll

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get attacked all the time. And I went

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through the biggest attack at that time.

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And no one can help me.

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No one could say anything that could make

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me feel better,

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when I'm being slandered and all that. So

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I went to the Quran.

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Somehow, I my heart opened.

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Just pick this up and see what where

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it goes. Right? And and and I did,

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and

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I was at my happiest. And and I

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I don't know how or why it's magical.

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So, you see, you see, sometimes,

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you know, I went through similar experience when

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I was coming from the music industry, searching

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for the truth, and then finding Islam, and

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then prostrating, and then my wife seeing me,

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and then she becoming a Muslim from Catholicism.

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And the the happiness that we achieved through

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Islam overweight any other fame, any other money

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that we made in our life. So is

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this where you are at that stage? Like,

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transitioning from

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the worldly,

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you know Yeah. And and I I mean,

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I I I have opened up to you

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that sometimes it gets confusing because if it's,

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you know, about Islam, then I'm like, you

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know, my business as well. So how do

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you juggle both in this dunya,

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while also thinking about the hereat, you know.

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So I I think that is where I'm

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at and and I Can I answer you

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now in front of the people? Yes. Okay.

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So there is no balance between Duniya

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and Ahab. There should no there should be

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no balance

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between this dunya with all its

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wealth, money, fame. You cannot balance this dunya,

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business, income and so on with Jannah al

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Firdaus, with the Jannah which the prophet said

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in it there is no there's there's that

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which no eyes have ever seen, no ears

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have ever heard, and never cross human imagination.

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How could you compare that to the dunya?

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Yeah. Yeah. Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala said, this

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day I have perfected your religion for you,

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completed my favor upon you, and chosen Islam

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to be your religion.

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How could a such a perfect

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way of life

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Allah had given us, that's Islam, be compared

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to the worldly matters? So,

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if you give your deen,

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it's, you you know, the first priority in

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your existence Yeah. Everything else will fall into

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the right place smoothly without you even worrying

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about it. Because what you worry we were

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talking about stress in business and all that.

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What you worry about already Allah promised to

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guarantee you.

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So Allah in the Quran,

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in heaven

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your provision is kept with me and whatever

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I promised you to provide. So that's his

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job, that's Allah's job, but you're stressing about

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what Allah told you already, it's kept with

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me. Right. You see? But what he inquired

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from us is to worship him Yes. As

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number one priority. After that, anything is secondary.

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Business, making money. I was,

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almost in tears when I saw your brand

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in next to other They took him to

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the store. Yeah. Yes. Because you see, we

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we sometimes act hypocritically. I'm not saying that

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we are hypocrites.

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I'm saying we are sometimes

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acting hypocritically in the sense that we see

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those foreign brands and we go crazy. But

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when we see such a successful

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brand made by Muslims for the Muslims, yes,

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it's expensive like other brands that you run

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after and buy and you know, you and

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even buy it's fake from China sometimes and

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you brag about it. Here is a sister

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who established a brand that is very very

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successful,

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elegant, Masha'Allah Subaraka'Allah. And sometimes people still send

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you those hateful messages and whatnot.

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What for? We should support every Muslim business

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man and woman, so long as they are

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living according to that,

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Islamic way of life, earning from halal means

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what do you say? Oh, I need to

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digest that. That that was beautiful.

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I I I needed to hear it myself,

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you know, and I think it will benefit

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a lot of people as well. Sometimes we

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forget that because we're chasing the dunya so

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much. I need to hit my target or

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I need to, you know, double my growth

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or whatever.

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That that becomes the entire thing you think

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about. And that's why

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I felt every time I pray,

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I feel at peace. And that's why I

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I I find myself going

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wanting to do more of that because I

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love that feeling.

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It's almost as if God's like enveloping me

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in this hug. Like, I you're you're okay.

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You're gonna be okay, you know, and and

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So long as you please him Yes. You

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would be okay? Yes. Getting getting better, you

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know, looser clothes.

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Gonna say She learned a lot that,

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and I I I would like to, Yani,

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ask all the brothers and sisters watching us

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to pray for sister. It's not easy. It's

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never easy to make a shift from where

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she is to something completely different. I was

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praising her team because

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they never they were never trained to organize

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an Islamic event. Yeah. And she gave them

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only 1 month to organize. The event was

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sold within 1 week, I believe.

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And then, all the brothers and sisters involved

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in organizing, putting things together, they were very

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keen, very dedicated, very professional,

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always cheerful. And Alhamdulillah,

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to me, it was one of my favorite

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events ever. Thank you.

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For being on the show, and I hope

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and I pray that next time, inshallah, we'll

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see some on your lines.

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Okay. Okay. That's it. Okay. Fine. Then I

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hope that you get So less of those

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ripped jeans? No more? No. No. No. I'll

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do that. Just closer and closer and closer

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to what pleases Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala. Go

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and read the story of sister Vivi. Her

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book is available, the 1st decade. May Allah

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you.

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you.