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I'm Muslim, you're Jewish. We're dispelling that myth right off the bat right there. Yeah, I mean, it's a total farce that I'm gonna be careful the way I say this, too. They're gonna try to ethnically cleanse Gaza.
I mean, that's, and I don't use that term lightly. Okay. Love that. Now, they're just foaming at the mouth demanding, in their words, ethnic cleansing, they're talking about basically removing 2.5 million. Okay. And honestly, they have a mandate to go seek justice and revenge they do. And they would feed me, they would insist that I take from them. It's just like the most unbelievable impactful experiences for me. Patrick, what did your pilot guy say? I want only Jews in Israel. Right. Okay, that that is a form of ethnically cleansing. Sorry, you know, it's emotional for me. And just tell him,
you know, how much I support him. And I'm thinking of him and a Salam aleikum, greetings of peace. Welcome to the show. I'm Edie your hosts go ahead and subscribe. Hit that notification bell so you don't miss exciting episodes, just like the next one. We have some very, very sad and traumatic and words cannot express the heartbreak that is happening and the world in front of us it's unfolding. So to help shed some light on what's going on my next guest, Dan Cohen, will bring us up to speed, shed some light, because there's a lot of confusion. And for the average person who wants to get to the bottom of things there. They know that there's much fake news out there. They know what the fake
with the mainstream media is all about. Hopefully, our next guest is God willing Dan Cohen, who is a Jewish journalist and film maker in his own words, I'm a Jewish guy who had my Bar Mitzvah in Jerusalem and went on birthright. He says he's lived in Palestine for three years, including seven months get this seven months he lived in Gaza. He's been looking to debate some of the main heads who are pushing much of this atrocity propaganda, such as Ben Shapiro and the like. And it's very unfortunate to see many, many people, even good hearted people who are falling for it. So I challenge you, I challenge you to sit through this interview. If you're a sincere truth seeker,
let's bring out my next guest, Dan Cohen. This is the day show.
How much respect I have for the faith of Islam Show. Welcome to the deen show, the deen show.
Hello, Dan, how are you? Hey, I'm great. Thanks very much for having me. I appreciate it. And then an important moment. Yes, very, very, it's very hard heart breaking, you know, to see all the latest developments on what's going on. Just touch upon real quickly when I when I introduced. This is from a from a tweet of yours, actually, that you put out that caught my attention in many ways. Can you get into it? You stressed this I'm a Jewish guy who had a Bar Mitzvah lived in Jerusalem, but you went to the others that you lived in Gaza, you know, tell us share this experience with with the audience and myself. Yeah, so my first stint in journalism in 2014. In early 2014, I went to
Palestine after trying to figure out what to do with my life. And I and I was there from 2014 to 2017. Living in Jerusalem and Ramallah, in Bethlehem. And I ended up getting access to Gaza. I managed to get press credentials to the Israeli government. And the first time I went to Gaza was in I want to say July of 2014 14, the last 10 days of the Israeli offensive on Gaza in the summer of 2014. And I continued to go back as much as I could over the next few years, while also covering what's going on in Israeli society, the West Bank inside 48 Palestine
and I made a throughout that time that seven months in Gaza, you know filming the destruction the mass destruction of Gaza itself watching 1314 storey towers be destroyed by us made bunker buster missiles you know paid for with our tax dollars. Watching entire neighborhoods be flattened and watching peaceful demonstrations on the border. Or rather along the fence watching Israeli snipers shoot people one after the other. I turn this into a documentary
I'm called Killing Gaza, which, you know, everyone can watch on killing gaza.com It's, you can buy it for five bucks or you it's on YouTube for free. If you don't have if you don't want to pay five bucks, don't worry about it. It's on. It's on YouTube. So all those experiences from 2014 to 2017, living in Palestine as a reporter, you know, not tied to the mainstream media.
I were just I just made everything totally clear. For me, I had the have the experience and understanding of what Zionism is, this is not you know, it's not not a conflict between two equal peoples. This is the colonization, this is a racist supremacist ideology. That is not real Judaism by any stretch. But weaponizes Judy's uses Judaism as a human shield to advance imperialism. And that's, that's what my journalism on Palestine aims to show. And, and also on Israeli society. So usually, I'll show some of the previous interviews I have with orthodox rabbis, Israeli Jewish people to dispel some of the myths because a lot of times, they'll say, Okay, this is a Jewish
Muslim thing. You know what I mean, Muslims hate Jews, but I'm Muslim, you're Jewish. We're dispelling that myth right off the bat right there. Yeah, I mean, it's a total farce. That's actually what Zionism wants is for us to think this is some kind of religious conflict, because then it's just, it's zero sum. It's, you know, I have my beliefs, you have your beliefs, and they're incompatible, incompatible, so whoever wins by force wins. But that's not what this is.
Judy, Zionism is a pseudo messianic project built on the tracks of ancient Jewish Messianism from the times of the temple. And what happened with the destruction of the temple is it was a catastrophe for Jews back then. And so the whole cult of, of that Jews did in those days of animal sacrifice and to worship
in the temple was ended. And rabbis instead of priests, the kohanim, which is my name,
they were no longer in charge. You had rabbis, teachers who were in charge with preserving Judaism. And so it became a culture of study of the Torah, of course of scripture. But the whole idea of having a Jewish kingdom was relegated It was sort of a genie put back into a bottle. Where because it had caused such catastrophe. And so over the centuries, this idea of Jewish Messianism would kind of appear from time to time and when there was social, political economic upheaval, but Zionism thought, well, we're European nationalists. And, and you know, there's anti semitism here. And so the best way for us to survive is actually to join them to be supremacists and say, We are a
separate Jewish nation, which is a complete fiction, there's all kinds of different Jewish people from all, all different countries, because the religions spread over the millennium. So Zionism took the mythology or the religion of Judaism, whatever you want to call it, and took those symbols as any European nationalism needed, and said, we are going to take the precepts, which is a Jewish Jewish sovereignty, Jewish army, the the return of Jewish people, the so called Return of Jewish people, even though you know, of course, I'm not indigenous to Palestine, and nor is Benjamin Netanyahu. And they created this mythology they use this mythology to nation build. The problem is,
well, it's problematic in itself, but it has, the logic continues to say, Well, you can't have a democratic state. This is a religious state. This is a theocracy, that the logic of Zionism Zion refers to Mount Zion, where, of course Aleksa is today and where Jewish tradition teaches at the temples once stood. So what happened over the years is a tiny element of Zionism that early on was very small and marginal. Through 1967. War, it was kind of it got a big boost. And this idea that this was God's plan coming into fruition this was a Jewish state, a Jewish kingdom, a Messianic era happening, that small tiny movement grew and grew and grew, and they hated the peace accords. So the
idea of Oslo of the Camp David Accords of the Gaza withdrawal, all of these things radicalized
then because the idea was, God is giving us this land, it's expanding, and the State of Israel is holy, it's God's vessel. But if, when those peace accords happen, they said, That was a crisis for them an ideological theological crisis. And so it became that we have to actually force God's hand. So what we need to do is not just build settlements, but go to the heart of the entire thing, the lochsa compound, we have to date. So they want to destroy, they want to take sovereignty over the Aleksa compound, of course, one of the most important Islamic holy sites in the world. And, of course, the most important and Palestine not only religiously, but culturally. And they are going to
end the idea is we will take that over, destroy it, expel any
Islamic presence and build a temple and return to this biblical, ancient, kind of outdated idea that doesn't they don't even know what it actually was, because it was an oral tradition passed on through various languages.
And create that. So it's recreating it's like this very similar to ISIS, you know, where it was a bunch of people who don't actually know the religion, who, who are using it, to advance something completely different. So that's what Zionism is. And that's what we're seeing. Even play out today. Wow. So it would be almost equivalent to like, you have this Daesh you know, ISIS, we say the insane state, what they're doing. Exactly. And I mean, and it's, it's funny, Well, funny, it's ironic, I guess, because
not only are ISIS and Zionism, the most kind of extreme and now virulent form of Zionism, ideological twins, but they actually collaborated with ISIS. Israel was supporting ISIS in Syria to overthrow the Assad government, Israel and the United States directly directly supported ISIS, this can be confirmed people can look this up absolutely 100%, you can look this up the United States was often called is ISIS is Air Force. In Syria. The the so called Free Syrian Army was a CIA project that was basically just a way to launder weapons to ISIS. And so of course, we know that ISIS did exterminate minorities in Syria, and it was supported by Israel too. So you know, these are these
are, like, whether it's, you know, Nazis in Ukraine that we've been supporting, or ISIS and Syria and Iraq that have devastated those countries and elsewhere, and Zionism, these are all tools of Western imperialism. And so we have to understand that these are all basically forms of the same thing, and Zionism has really nothing to do with any sort of, you know, decent form of Judaism, it is a perversion.
Tell me, you've had so many aid workers, journalists coming out, speaking about the war crimes now that are unfolding the law, the international laws that are being broken right now. And what was what was your experience? You know, you had to have known much of this in the beginning, you probably had this this fear to go over to the to the other side, now that that was
being painted as animals barbarians, and what was your experience? Like? Did you have fear your first time when you went over to Gaza? That you and then when you finally went over, what was your experience like?
Because you were within your with indigenous people there you were living sleeping, eating? Like, is that correct? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. No, I all that time. I was, you know, staying with with friends, sometimes I was in one of the hotels for foreigners, but the vast majority of the time, I was staying with friends, you know, breaking bread with them sleeping in their, in their house. And
I, you would think, like, hold on, you're a Jewish guy. They're gonna they're gonna chop your head off. It's going on? Yeah, that's what the propaganda would like you to believe, you know, that exactly. That it's this religious conflict. And, you know, I mean, you will, of course, you'll hear Palestinians say, you know, they'll use yahood for, you know, to talk about Israelis, but that's they're talking about their occupiers. They're not talking about Jews. They're talking about their occupiers. Of course, my experience in Gaza was overwhelmingly positive. It's a place that holds it just, you know, I hold in my heart, and it just pains me so much to see the ethnic cleansing that's
happening right now that that we're watching on the internet from afar. I mean, my my time there, I was always treated with incredible warmth, Palestinians. I mean, especially if Gaza are really salt of the earth people
and they have suffered such so such incredible amounts over the years and years and years, you know, they're mostly they're almost all refugees from what became Israel. You know, they're the, they're the grand the grandchildren. They're, they're the sons and daughters and grandchildren of people who were ethnically cleansed in 1947 1948 and the Nakba, which, you know, I don't need to tell your audience. So my time there, I mean, if I was ever scared, it was because of Israeli bombing, or when I went to demonstrations near the fence, if you come within 300 meters of the fence, the completely militarized wall fence system, you will get shot by an Israeli sniper, or by remote controlled
machine gun nests that sit on top of these concrete walls that are operated by an all women's unit miles and miles away. And they target people by their gate, I've seen them open fire on people. So for me, you know, there was no fear of Palestinians going to do something to me. I mean, I'm not openly advertising that I'm Jewish there. But um, I was just a foreigner. And there were other foreigners or other journalists that would come and go, and I'm an American guy. So I'm an American journalist. And so people appreciated that I was there, particularly after 2000, you know, the summer of 2014, when no one else, none of the other journalists were spending much time there, you
know, they were going to other places, and I decided, now I'm going to continue to spend as much time to document the, what people are surviving through in the rubble in the cold winter, when babies are freezing to death, or in the hot summer, when people who had their entire neighborhood bombed by Israel are living in shipping containers in the sweltering heat, without any sort of hope. But I would go there and you know, go to a shipping container and talk to people, and they would feed me, they would insist that I that I take from them, it was just like the most unbelievable, impactful experiences for me. So that's, you know, those are the experiences that have given me
clarity that what I say on Twitter, any I'll debate anybody, I don't care who you are, if you want to debate Israel, Zionism, there's you don't have a chance. Because, you know, I know what reality is, and and all of these other, these other frauds, you know, on on YouTube, or whatever they sit, you know, they don't, they don't know anything about life, they don't know anything about reality. They're just well paid liars.
Trying to dehumanize the people this is I want this to stick in your mind. You know, some of the most affluent people, you know, will not offer you some of their own food, they got all the money. But these are people you're saying in a shipping container, just had their houses blown up, and they're in a shipping container. And they're insisting that you that you eat from the little that they have. I mean, just just think about that. Let's get into a lot of product, my questions will be answered through some of these clips, we'll play
someone who I got to meet Patrick and David, he had some guests on just recently, Charlie Kirk, I heard you mention him. I don't know him personally. But we've opened up a line of communication. And I hope that he's an American Christian conservative. I'm hoping that his heart could soften and other people's hearts, the good Americans out there, I'm an American, you're an American also is correct. So we're Americans who want good for our country, good for other people also. And it's sad at any time, human life as much as life these, you know, humans are not animals, especially babies. So I'm going to show you this clip is from a PB PVD podcast. And I'm going to I'm going to hope that
Patrick sees this. And he invites, he keeps it fair and balanced. And he invites someone like you on the program to have a fair and balanced discussion on the topic. So let's go ahead and
take it to Charlie Kirk. See what he has to say. We'll show a few of these clips and get your your response to that when I took a helicopter ride from Jerusalem to the Gaza border, it's 45 minutes. Wow, six hours there live streaming the killing of Jews? Was that somebody in the government say stand up? That is a legitimate non conspiracy question. The whole country is the IDF. The whole country is and you're trying to tell me that they're going to concerts and cabooses and schools and by reports six hours, let's say it's three hours. That suspect got wrong. It's also not like a right wing reporting. This is from the New York Times the long way for your help as massiveness unfolds in
Israel, not a more liberal news outlet than New York. By the way, I'm actually very pro Israel. So let me be there. I mean, so I'm not exactly we all are no, no, I just want to make sure my position is clear here. So they start off here with this. There's something about suspect like, is it possible that this thing is set up because who benefits from all this stuff?
Palestinian people at the end now 50% of our children are being just annihilated. What do you think from the conversation that's starting off there? They start off with this is suspect? Well, I mean, you know, I think what actually happened here? What led to this operation from from Gaza?
is just the simple people are looking for something conspiratorial. I don't see that what I see. I mean, I guess it's possible. But what I see is that
the Israeli government led by the, the by Benjamin Netanyahu, basically ignored warnings that you can, it's, I mean, the simple fact is you cannot keep a population under siege indefinitely, especially one that has weapons and expect that they're not going to try to take their freedom to fight back.
You can, you know, question, what happened in those settlements? And, you know, if there were civilians killed, then you know, that's certainly awful. And you know, that that's all up for debate. But what's not up for debate is Palestinians right to resist. So if you, you know, when you keep people in a cage, in a ghetto, you bomb them, you starve them, you keep them under siege. And then you take some kind of you put the softest targets, the settlements, right on the other side of this hyper militarized fence and wall system. And you know, that people can get out that militants can get out, you put these soft targets, these kibbutz is these Israeli settlements. And you have
some kind of concert filled with young people who are all of military age. Many of them are soldiers. In fact, there were military vehicles there. That's that you can see in accounts from from Israelis who survived and escaped that you are basically asking for some kind of attack for some kind of operation. And so you know, to feign outrage, well, the outrage should be directed at Israel, at the Israeli government, for keeping these people in a cage, treating them like animals, because what happens with anyone, when you treat them like an animal, eventually, they're going to act out in some way that you don't like. And so that's, you know, that's happened again, and again.
And again. And this is just maybe the most, you know, this is the most severe example of it in years and years. So, you know, Charlie Kirk, and these guys, they're simply unable to understand that they're looking for some for some conspiratorial angle, because they can't understand why why that would happen. And why, you know, Netanyahu, they're drunk on power. I mean, they're all about expanding settlements in the West Bank, they thought Gaza is a done deal. And Hamas played its hand very strategically, it ignored, you know, stepping into to confrontations before in order to sort of play coy. And in Israel, also, we know that it warned it ignored warnings directly from the Egyptian
government that something was imminent from Gaza. So I mean, there's the actual intelligence that the Netanyahu government ignored. And there's just the overwhelming, overwhelmingly obvious logic, that you keep people in a cage, they're going to try to get out and it's going to be ugly. So you know, these guys are just too they're incapable or they're or they're dishonest, and they won't they won't entertain that at the elephant in the room. Let's go to the next clip here. The Israeli hard right government has a mandate.
I gotta be careful the way I say this, too. They're going to try to ethnically cleanse Gaza.
I mean, that that's an I don't use that term lightly. Okay. They're talking about basically removing 2.5 million people. Okay. And honestly, they have a mandate to go seek justice and revenge they do. There is this idea that they need to have a truce truce or a peace treaty that's morally crap. After you see women and children be burned alive and dragged to the streets. But they have a right to seek justice revenge. At what cost? Even if you go with an eye for an eye is that mean I for 2 million innocent people what what do you what do you say to
to this response or statements by Charlie? Well, it's even worse Charlie Kirk didn't say they have a right he said they have a mandate that they have. And so what he you know, if Charlie Kirk were a pundit in during during World War Two, during the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising, he would be cheering on the Nazis to go in and exterminate every single inhabitant of the ghetto. That's what he sounds like. This is not about protecting Israel or Israeli
civilians or anything like that. He's
Talking about ethnically cleansing in his words. A ghettoized, demonized people, most of whom much of the population more than half well, more than half of the population of Gaza are children. I mean, you go anywhere in Gaza there children everywhere. That's what he wants to do. I mean, this is just genocidal rhetoric. And it's open, he doesn't even try to hide it between discourse about security and protecting any of that now, it's just out in the open these guys are, are just straight up fascists. It's just wild to see. And especially I don't know about Charlie Kirk, but a lot of these kind of populist right wing guys were against the Ukraine war, you know, they had this kind of
phony anti war rhetoric. And they've just dispelled with all of that now, they're just foaming at the mouth, demanding, in their words, ethnic cleansing. It's just the most depraved
display I've really ever seen on, on, on television, these kinds of things. And you know, as I mean, we as Muslims, we love Jesus, you know, and then you often hear Christians who I feel sad have jumped into this whole Zionist thing now, other Christians who are in Palestine who are also being oppressed
correct me if I'm ever wrong here, and now you're going away from what Jesus or the prophets of God or any God conscious person is about spreading peace just as Prince of Peace you know, which we believe he is, but where at what caught now it's like all that's out the window. What where's your moral compass, your moral code, it's like now, you know, these are children we're talking about? Am I correct? 50% of Gaza has children more more than 50? More than 50%? Exactly. These are not little animals. I mean, he's an even even now if you're if you're talking about they're probably more people erotically who would be sad. These are dogs out there. And that 2 million dogs, you'd
probably have more people, you know, who would be coming out to save the dogs? Yeah, exactly. Exactly. I mean, it's, it's, it's just, I don't even have words for how horrible that is. You know what, here's another thing about Charlie Kirk. He's not only a, he's not only advocating openly ethnic cleansing, he's also an I mean, he's saying, you know, getting all the expelling all those people. He's also a liar. He tweeted, I'm going to read you exactly his tweet. A bit. This is about the 40 beheaded babies deception that went around. He said they found the bodies of 40 Jewish babies, some with their heads cut off pray for Israel. And the next tweet shortly after he says, Oh,
this might be misinformation. So we have to be careful. It was soon debunked. The whole thing about 40 Hamas debunked, debunked like, okay, totally fake. There's no evidence of it. The Israeli Prime Minister's office two days after the incident, tweeted out a photo that apparently was made with artificial intelligence and AI photo. There was not a single parent who or family member who's come forward to say, one of my, you know, I'm the parent of one of these supposedly beheaded babies. There's not one name release, there's not a photo there. We don't you know, from before they were supposedly killed, anything like that.
Oh, yeah. Not only that, we have Yeah, the source is a fanatical Israeli settler who wants to commit genocide? openly? This is this is the actual source. Yes, this is the source who went to the Israeli news outlet i 24. And which is controlled by Benjamin Netanyahu. And, and said, I want to do that. So this has been, I mean, this is what this is, is an intentional deception. And Charlie Kirk actually admitted it, this might be misinformation. And then it was debunked. And then he goes on and still promotes it. The next he's dealt with. I mean, where's the integrity, the honesty, truthful and all this is out the window. Now, you hear this also be constantly being repeated by Ben
Shapiro and the like.
And he's, he's, he's looking to draw the emotion, the reaction from the American public, saying, Would you do this going to civilian villages is coded and kill babies, burning families, raping women and raping women? Would you kill a baby? This is Ben Shapiro asking these questions. But then now people like you and others are uncovering that this is all there is a. There's also another American here. His name is Jackson Henkel. Yeah, yeah, Jackson, Hinkle and others are coming out. These are Americans and others who are who are to these claims. Now, this atrocity propaganda that's being pushed, they're coming out the great women this is unsubstantiated claim that the LA time
I was actually retracted. This girl, she's still live in Germany, she can come out if she was raped, she can testify, right? Well, she's in. She's in Gaza, she's held captive in Gaza. I mean, because she was the last report I had, basically, they said that they killed her and they raped her, which was not true. Her mother came out and said that she's actually on in uncritical support in the hospital in Gaza and is being treated. So I mean, all of those what you just showed that list that Jackson Hinkle came up with are just one lie after the other after the other, and the biggest one is the 40 beheaded babies. Now. I mean, I look at what happened in those settlements in those kibbutz
is and all that stuff. And I think, well, that's horrible. That is awful. What actually happened, there's no doubt about it. Why does the Israeli government feel the need to lie about it? Why does Charlie Kirk Why'd all these propagandists feel the need to lie to exaggerate? Well, it's because they want to generate blood lust in their foreign audience to justify the ethnic cleansing that he's calling for that he's demanding. And that the Israeli government is actually carrying out at this very moment, as we speak. Now a normal person I would think, would find out oh, 4040 Babies weren't beheaded. Oh, that's, I'm relieved, I'm glad but instead, now he wants they want 40 Israeli babies
to have been beheaded because then it would justify they want to sacrifice these babies. So it can justify the murder, the mass murder and ethnic cleansing of, of Palestine. That's how demented these people are. This is I just, I don't for educational purposes, I'm going to show you something. I don't know if you're aware of this, but just so you can see, you know, this is the stance of Muslims here following the instructions from Muhammad peace and blessing to be prime we have no anyone who goes against this. I mean, this is what we condemn, can you see this, it's up on the, on the, on the screen, the killing of innocent children, women, you know, mutilating bodies, cutting down of trees,
you know, attacking churches, monasteries, synagogues, whatever the case, religious sites, destroying, you know,
the villages town, this is something that is clear. So I just want to make this clear this position that, you know, and anybody that's outside of that they're going outside of what is
sanctioned. So let's get into the next clip here. And get your reaction to this quickly on that, because that is a very slippery slope. And if you actually want to talk about what Jews and even Christians shouldn't be most fearful of Muslims, as well as the concept of ethnic, okay, I just want to be very sorry to interrupt. Sure. I'm saying that's what they're going to be accused of. Correct. But if there are some people in public life in Israel, that
Patrick, what did your pilot guy say? I want only Jews in Israel. Right. Okay. That that is a form of ethnically cleansing because 20% of Israel's Arab Hmong, correct. 20 20%. And people don't don't know that. And I've been to Israel several times. I was there a few months ago, and I saw the protests. Yes. You know, if you don't have to be.
Seems like they realized the atom there, who's one of the CO hosts, it seemed like he realized the severity was, you know, what, they're what they're dealing with here. What are your thoughts? I mean, you know, they said it, and then it was like, wait a minute, because, you know, Charlie Kirk said, I have to be really careful how I say this. Ethnic cleansing. Yeah, I'm gonna say it, he thought about it. That wasn't an accident. I slipped. He said it explicitly, because that's what he wants. And then he thought, oh, wait, maybe you know, my producers in my ear telling me maybe I shouldn't say that. So I mean, that's just heat now. Not only is he is he does he want to see ethnic
cleansing and see, does he want to see 40 beheaded Israeli babies and millions of killed Palestinians killed? He? He's a liar. He can then he can even be honest about it. I mean, it's just the most if any of these people got challenged, you know, can you imagine if I was able to go head to head with them if I was able to debate them like we're talking right now live unscripted. I mean, they just be humiliated. They would be destroyed and discredited. But they're all fraud so they won't talk to me. They're all I mean, how do these people sleep at night? I don't know. I don't get it Eddie. It's just like they're just you know, I guess on a big pile of money that's all I can
always my dad. My intention is to you know, because we're all human beings and my sincere intention is to try to with these programs to try to awaken any humanity that someone has in their hearts even be Charlie whoever the case you know, to bring out the good you know, what I mean to work towards a peace and understanding and obviously
You can't have peace without justice so when you when you bring to light you know we can understand you know if we get if we're in a traffic jam if somebody gives us a ticket unjustly or somebody you know imagine someone coming into your house you know talk about that for a moment before we go to the next clip you know imagine someone from New York comes to your house we get people get in an uproar you know you have incidents is like a cop may oppressive somewhat the whole town goes you know berserk and whatnot and then imagine like you're somebody someone comes in your house has been your house for generations to come and now they come in and they have all the soldiers to back them
up and they're forcing you out and you know, children dying this is something that's happening on a regular basis you know, and no media coverage on this this is not talked about and then the people when they're challenged I don't know if you saw that or no if you posted that the person that when when the person the design is challenged on some of these things. It's like no one really challenges it, ask them to condemn but then when they're I there was a clip of Sky News when the person was I don't know if you saw that one. Yeah.
And what about those Palestinians in hospital who are on life support and babies and incubators whose life support an incubator will have to be turned off because the Israelis have cut the power to Gaza?
Are you seriously keep on asking me about Palestinian civilians? What's What's wrong with you? Have you not seen what happened? We're fighting Nazis talk to us for a moment about paint that picture so people can really understand on one side, is it true? I spoke to many people were also there. I don't know if you'd heard of Miko. Pillet. You ever met him? I know. Miko, yes, yes. He's also an Israeli Jew, his father, his father was one of the original or his grandfather, a sign of signers of the Declaration independence, I really recommend people to look into his work. And many people talk about it, you can you can talk about because you firsthand live there. On one side of the fence, you
have clean running water, the other sides, if you have dirty water, electricity for bait, let's talk about that. You know, and then also the settlers, you know, the legal UN has constant as to this, this is breaking of international law.
Help people understand this. So this can this can really hit home and people can put themselves in that situation put yourselves in this in this picture that you're about to the reality of this paint.
Well, I mean, the Gaza Strip is one of the most densely populated places in the world, it's about 2.5 million people now. I mean, when I was there, I think it was it had just hit 2 million people. So the population continues to grow massively. And so again, it's mostly children, it's less, it's smaller than the size of Manhattan, for example, there is essentially no open space. So it's all buildings, it's all built up. And about, I think 20% of that land even is no go zone. So if you get within, you know, hundreds of meters of the Israeli controlled fence, they'll shoot you a Sniper will shoot you, as I explained, or remote control.
Machine gun will shoot you, you have constant drones humming above your head, which kind of sounds like a symphony of lawnmowers, just constantly reminding you that at any point, someone sitting in a military base 50 miles away, looking at you from above, can with the flip of a switch, turn your life off, kill you or your family or anyone else. So the the stress the dehumanization, I mean, it is a concentration camp, there's no other way to describe it. The Israeli military actually calculated the amount of calories that each Gasan is allowed to consume in a day. And so the idea is to keep this going to be verified. I use seriously calculated the the amount of calories that what
Yes, 100% That's absolutely true. It's widely reported.
Yes, they they, they calculated that. So in order to keep people malnourished, but not quite kill them. The whole idea is to keep the place on life support because it has served as a warehouse for Palestinians in order to have this Jewish demographic majority that is artificially engineered in Israel. So you know, people, so like American Jews, and Zionists can go and enjoy their lunch in Tel Aviv, or go to Jerusalem or wherever and not see very many Palestinians, you have to keep them in a cage. And so that's what that's what Gaza really is. And it's only now that they've shaken their cage every time they shake their cage. Then the Israelis come in and try to pound them into
submission. But like any patriot, anyone who values freedom and liberty knows that will never happen. People would rather die fighting for their freedom than then to live on their
underneath. And so you know, that says nothing, of course on the, for the children who never make any decision to resist or not. There's a few hours of electricity per day, Israel has repeatedly bombed the power plant the sewage facilities. So sewage flows openly into the street and into the, into the ocean, sorry, into the Mediterranean Sea. So even if you want to go into the sea and go for a swim, the only way Gazans have to relax, and and to maybe disconnect a little bit, your there's a good chance you'll be swimming in fresh sewage. You have water, there is no clean water from the tap in the shower, or the sink. So you get seawater. So you know, every time you take a shower, you have
that that salt, you have that salt on you, the only way you get clean water for drinking is through delivery, which is a very profitable enterprise for Israeli businesses. That's been that's another key part of it is the complete destruction of the Palestinian economy to create a dependence economy for Israel to exploit. So in every way, it is a concentration camp,
I would say a vastly more technologically sophisticated concentration camp than we've ever seen. And what I mean by a concentration camp is it concentrates the population. So the Nazi concentration camps, we're not the only ones in history, there have been that has been used in in various contexts in Vietnam, the United States used concentration camps, for example. But Israeli concentration camps, that's what the Gaza Strip is. And so now, because of this Hamas operation, to attack those settlements, and to take Israeli hostages, in order to use them to negotiate for their prisoners, which is the idea of taking hostages, the Israelis have decided, now it's time to turn the
concentration camp into a extermination camp, we're going to exterminate, we're going to ethnically cleanse it and exterminate anyone who stays in here. And probably people who are on there. Well, they've actually they gave the orders for the Northern, roughly a third of Gaza, for all of the residents to move south, which is a physically impossible task. You're talking about more than 1 million people going through a tiny area.
It's completely impossible. And now they're going to start bombing is what they said, we were giving you several hours, and we're going to start massively bombing that area. And then as people are moving south, as they heated those orders, they started bombing them. So it's psychological warfare, to just they want to kill as many civilians as possible. And at the same time, you're seeing figures like Simcoe Rothman, the member of of Israel's Israel's Parliament saying our goal is for a Jewish child to be able to walk through Gaza unharmed. So that's the same thing. Charlie Kirk is calling for an ethnic cleansing. They want to remove every single last Palestinian from the Gaza Strip, just
as they attempted to do in 1947 1948. And achieved largely, and they've tried to do throughout the rest of the land. So they want to they want to send them into the Egyptian Sinai and have them permanently live in tent camps as the Israeli Member of Parliament Betzalel smo Trichur said, and so you know, I mean, what do you want to call that genocide? I don't know. I'm not a legal expert. But it's certainly these Israeli officials have expressed intent to genocide, and without a doubt, have committed crimes against humanity. And that's what we're witnessing right now. That's what the Gaza Strip has become in the last four days. Is that why it's really important for them, people like Ben
Shapiro, and the like to push out much of this fake news, these hoaxes that are out there. For instance, when he was asked, he was pushed to produce evidence he put out he put out a tweet that had a burned what seemed to be a Burn, baby. And then he got tagged was a community noted that it was an AI image. Yeah, it's even it's even worse than that. That image came out from the Israeli Prime Minister's Office, the official,
the official Twitter account of Benjamin Netanyahu, they they put out three images, saying that this is proof of 40 beheaded Israeli babies and burned, beheaded and burned Israeli babies. Now, one of those images, this is the same one that Ben Shapiro promoted as proof of this. I mean, on its face, that's not proof. Okay. One of the images for example, there's, there's no you can't tell that anything has been beheaded. I mean, and it's so it's so grim to be discussing these details, but that's what they forced us to do to talk about
Office. Yeah. But, you know, without even without doubt going into the whole meat debunking the whole thing. One of these images yes is apparently AI generated. So these so, I mean, it's just unbelievably cynical. It's beyond anything I could ever comprehend that they're using a fake image apparently. I mean, I can't say this is 100% but they are at least using images that don't prove what they're saying and
and possibly are created one of them created with artificial intelligence to justify the ethnic cleansing of Palestine that's that's what's happening. This has happened in the past for people who remember the incubator babies with Iraq, it's so people can hit home these things happen this is this is part of getting dehumanizing the the other side that you want to exterminate, and because the American public and people around the world, they're not going to support you, hopefully, their hearts are open, if they have any humanity in them, they're not going to want to send their money. What is it like three over $3 billion
that's sent yearly annually. So this is, it's very important that people understand this, to get the people support, they have to program them. And they have to make people look like animals. So they push what you brought up earlier, this whole 40 babies and all of this fake news, because nobody wants to see babies killed. But it's ironic. Now on the other side, now you're seeing it in front of you happening that you're seeing you have a friend of yours. Actually, I was gonna find the clip. Do you have a friend of yours who's in Gaza, and he was taking on Instagram, people can go we'll try to get this this up that people can see. And in real time he's showing if you can help me with what's
the name? What's his name? Moataz as ASA. Yes, yes, yes, that's the one. And he's actually in real time. He's showing you're seeing actually baby parts you're seeing like you saw those. You obviously saw what he's posting on his, on his Instagram. It's very sad. It's it's just out of this world. I cannot believe in real time this is unfolding. Moataz is a portrait photographer. That's what he's one of the sweetest most childlike people I've ever known in my life.
That's what he wants to do is be a portrait photographer. And because of the circumstances that he that he was born into, because of Zionism, he's forced to be a war correspondent or a war Instagrammer, documenting the ethnic cleansing going on around him of his people, and yesterday, and he's been braving the bombardment going outside, and going to the scenes of fresh airstrikes, and watching the most horrible things that we could imagine that, you know, God forbid anyone else has to ever see in their life. And yesterday, he went to his
home that had been struck in his neighborhood, his home neighborhood, and it turned out to be his family, his father's side of the family 15, at least 15 people who were killed. And so and he documented it. And I mean, it's just beyond, you know, anything I can imagine when we you know, Israel's lying about 40, Israel and Ben Shapiro and Charlie Kirk, all these guys, all the mainstream media are lying about 40 beheaded Israeli babies. Meanwhile, they're bombing people to where they're just, it's just body parts. You look at the body bags, in my, you know, I have it on my Twitter, I showed his Moses videos that are on his Instagram, it's bodybags listed with parts of this person
and parts of that person. And there's a question mark, which, which body part is whose this body part belong to? And so, you know, that stuff will never be talked about in mainstream media,
or by any of these, these professional liars, calling for ethnic cleansing. So, I mean, it's just, you know, it's just beyond words beyond comprehension.
What is what is happening? And I very much fear from what is his life? You know, I'm constantly checking his Instagram and WhatsApp to see if he's logged in. And I This isn't here, right. This is him right here. Tim, you can follow him on Instagram, Montez underscore as I use a
you have to follow him in order to to be able to see him Instagram restricted his feed to people only who follow Him. So they're censoring him to stop censoring. But I mean, you know, at any moment, he could just be killed. And I I've been texting him just messages of support. And I called him yesterday afternoon here in Washington, DC where I am probably 11 o'clock midnight in Gaza. And he answered I mean, he's just such a console and he's he's completely exhausted emotionally and physically and in every way and he ends
Certain we talked for a few minutes, and I just tried to cheer him up and
tell him how important what he's doing is and, and
sorry, you know, it's emotional for me and just tell him,
you know, how much I support him and I'm thinking of him and, and like we even managed to share a laugh. So I mean, it's just
just beyond comprehension, it just crimes against humanity. That's, that's all I can say, you know, somebody has to intervene to stop this, you know, we hear about the US, we hear about responsibility to protect that was the justification for bombing Libya, for, for, for, you know, we protecting people in Syria and Ukraine, all these places. Meanwhile, we are underwriting the ethnic cleansing of Palestine at this very moment. And, you know, the State Department even circulated memos among its staff today, this was reported by the Huffington Post, saying make sure you don't do don't do anything like calling for a ceasefire or de escalation or negotiation. Those words are all banned in
the State Department. So
they're banned in the state. What can Americans do not what can Americans you know, people who are watching this, you know, people like
out there who are actually, you know, people like Jackson Hickey, I don't know who this person is, but I'm just seeing that he's awoke to some of the things that are going on. And yourself and others. What can what can people do? Who they don't, they don't approve of this is the first time you know, they've been they've been watching the mainstream media. Now they got outside the box, they watched some independent news, they're gonna hold different picture because I don't think anybody can really, you know, look into this. You've had some of the some of the social the celebrities like the Justin Bieber's LeBron James, right, probably given a script by their managers
pushing this stuff out. Have you seen some of these? Right? But I don't think if they if they did what you did if they did what some of these others did, and they really took how can how can a person took a deeper dive? I guess that's my question to, to kind of get beyond the the mainstream headline approach, because they know most people don't go deeper. They just read the headlines. So that's why they put all this fake news out there. And then that's what's stuck in the head job is done finish. But the people who are watching us now and I, I really, I call upon, you know, someone like Patrick, ben David, who has a big following, he's talking about this invite Dan, on, invite
people who will give you the other side and let people judge from there. Let's be fair, let's have the debate. Let's go ahead and talk about it, you know, from both sides. So what advice would you have for your average person, average American person who just has very little knowledge on this? How can they get more informed? Yeah, I mean, first thing I would say is stop watching television, because it's all the same exact messaging, it's all controlled. It's all deceptions. And it's very hard to know what's true and what's not. If you're not well versed, and you're not, you know, following it in, in to the level of kind of granular detail. I mean, if you want to get a sense of
what Gaza is really like, you can watch my documentary that I made, what's it called? What's it called? Again? It's called Killing Gaza. Okay, you can watch the killing Gaza, calm. I mean, if you you know, like I said, it's five $5 to buy it on there $3 to rent it that will help me with my work, which is sorely needed. Or you can watch it for free. You can go to YouTube, if you don't have you know, five bucks to spare right now. No problem. Go watch it on YouTube for free. Or on Vimeo. It's also on Vimeo for free. We made it free a couple years ago, I made that with Max Blumenthal, the the journalist.
And so you know, that'll give you a sense of what Gaza is like, I also did a film for MintPress news on Gaza. That Moataz as Aysa filmed, it's called Gaza fights back. You can find that on on. It's on my Twitter. It's also on MintPress news YouTube channel. If you look up MintPress News, Gaza fights back, you can see it there. You know, if anyone can't find it, just tweet at me. I'll send it out. I'll retweet it even I put it up yesterday.
You know, but you can watch, go on social media, go on Twitter, follow what Moataz is doing look at what people who are actually showing you what's going on is doing not people on television who are explaining their analysis or their opinion or, you know, I mean, not that it's bad to I mean, I'm obviously giving you my opinion on my analysis, but I you know, I'm someone who's actually been there. Not on the corporate media. They're all they're all well paid liars. That's their job. And that that Job has now turned into what Charlie Kirk is doing inciting, ethnic cleansing and lying about beheaded babies and and this kind of thing. So
you know, that's, it's
It's it's not a very complex issue. It's you know, what, what American patriots who believe in in freedom and liberty like I said, someone was
encroaching on your land? Well, I mean, a lot of people, you know, believe in the second second amendment and that's what many people in Gaza feel to that they support the resistance. Because they have no other choice. It's a battle further. It's, it's, it's either it's live, you know, on their knees or, or, or die, you know, basically the choices they're given now, it's kind of like, what analogy can you give? Or have you given like, if somebody comes into your house, and now is
trying to force you out, forcing you out at gunpoint
killing your family members. And even before that, you go deeper you know, these are people who actually live together in peace and harmony Jews, Christians and Muslims before this holes, Zionist movement came in. So now now you want to put them on even playing field now's now you end up someone goes in and, and fights back against the person who's in the house attacking attacking the family. And now they're caught now the victim is being made an equal playing ground as the aggressor as the criminal. That's, that's not that's how to try to make it seem like
but it's, it's clear as day if you look into this, people, when you just couple more questions, when you when you look at this term, apartheid, people like Nelson Mandela have called it this Jimmy Carter, the US president and human rights, isn't it true that human rights organizations, also Israeli human rights organizations that also call this an apartheid state? Can you can you talk about this for a moment? Yeah, I mean, the apartheid label is not even controversial at this point. It's long been an apartheid state just to two legal systems, even within so called democratic Israel, it's an apartheid state, you have many discriminatory laws that are specifically against
Arab citizens, Palestinian citizens of Israel, let alone the various kinds of
levels of citizenship or non citizenship or residency for Palestinians in Jerusalem in the West Bank and Gaza. I mean, it is, by definition, an apartheid regime. That's just a it's almost like a bland statement now.
But as you mentioned, the Israeli NGO bit Selim has long called it an apartheid state. So I mean, what South African apartheid was pales in comparison to what the Israeli project is the Zionist project, which, you know, the, the South Africans were not using F sixteens to bomb entire neighborhoods to wipe out entire neighborhoods, they weren't, you know, firing artillery blindly into densely populated neighborhoods of children into shanty towns. That's what Gaza, that's what Gaza is where, you know, now they want to ethnically cleanse an entire third of it, and bomb the people as they're fleeing. I mean, this is this is another level. This is what Charlie Kirk demanded
ethnic cleansing. So and that's what Palestinians have suffered for years and years and years since, you know, their grandfathers or the youngest ones, even their great grandparents, you know, and they're very few survivors left of the Nakba, the catastrophe of 1947 1948. That just, you know, on the ruins of Palestine, where the State of Israel was established
those you know, that's that's what has gone on every day. So today is another Nakba. And that's, that's what's happening so you know, I'm just
praying hoping that some force will intervene to stop Israel whether through diplomatic or military means they have to be stopped
God bless you thank you very much. Where can people go ahead and if they want to follow you and connect with you look more into your documentary? Where can they go? You can
my my work is all on my twitter at Dan Cohen 3000 You can follow me there you can message me you can you can reach out to me I'm very always happy to hear from from people who are interested in my work the documentary killing Gaza excuse me that killing gaza.com
The then I'm actually have another documentary project that is extremely urgent. I'm trying to finish in the next as soon as possible regarding the situation in Palestine specifically about Alexa the Alexa compound and so then it's you know, if anyone wants to defend alaqua which is very much under threat at this moment, we
As Of course, this is not going to stay in the Gaza Strip. These, you know, hardcore these, these fanatical Zionist forces would love nothing more than to destroy Al Aqsa
and they see it as a big yellow button to press to launch the kind of war that they actually want.
Then, you know, please consider on my on my tweet, my first tweet my pin tweet, I have a link to go buy me a coffee, I also have Patreon. I also have substack you can donate anywhere there to support my project, that I'm this documentary that is essential that I'm trying to get out and I'll be able to announce more about it and release a trailer very soon. I just can't do it quite yet. So, thank you so much for having me and I appreciate your your platform and your integrity. And thank you, thank you free Palestine. Thank you very much May God bless you and we call upon the piers Morgan's and Patrick Ben Davis and others you're ready for debate you're ready for a discussion on the on the
issue if they invite you ready to go let's get this send this out or tweet this out pass this video on to them and their channels and let's demand that what the viewers want to see so they can make an informed a properly informed decision you're down for that 100% Anytime you know I don't even I don't need to be disrespectful or call anybody names I'll just calmly debunk you know the the claims and the lies and and you know we'll talk about what's true and what's real and how we're actually going to protect human life not only Palestinians but Israelis too let's all human life. Yeah, exactly. Thank you very much. Thank you so much. Said I'm not gonna lie but I've got two brothers
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