The Deen Show – PBD Podcast – Upset that UCLA Students are Converting To Islam – PRAYING TO GOD, and Wearing Hijabs
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The discussion delves into the impact of Islam on the world, including its use of promo codes and its use of the holy Bible as a reference. The discussion also touches on the struggles of black people with their views and the importance of educating people on Islam and not listening to anyone's opinion. The speaker emphasizes the importance of learning to hate certain Muslims and protecting one's identities, as well as visiting a mosque and setting up a meeting with a Muslim to establish a beautiful community.AI: Transcript ©
The reality, guys. Ready for it? Islam has
taken over the world. After I converted,
I felt closer to Jesus than when I
was a Christian. Repeat that again. They're taking
over the caliphate. Okay. Hold on.
The caliphate. Is that like Oh, there's white
people in there. There's people at ballet. Don't
even know how to wear the freaking hijab.
Don't You guys with this new bill,
once you threaten an American's free speech,
you might as well have attacked baseball. So
this bill is dangerous and unconstitutional and wrong
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Peace. How are you guys doing? I have
a exciting program for you. Not only are
we gonna be talking with Sheikh Machil
Smith who's the author of 2 really good
books,
Heart and Mind, Hearing Becomes Listening. He's also
a former Baptist,
Catholic also.
And people have been sending me at the
same time
a lot of these clips that have been
recently coming out from the PBD podcast.
Islam has taken over the world.
PBD,
because they know that, we got to meet,
Patrick Ben David.
Had some good things to say about him.
And now,
it's quite a twist now. The direction that
they're they're going,
we're gonna go ahead and cover with our
guests
some of the things that just came out.
I wanna thank, people who've been sending me
some of these, for these latest ones. Omar
Omar,
was also a fan of the PBD podcast
for a lot of Muslims. That's changing now.
That's a big demographic that
Patrick's gotta really think about that they're losing
here. So let's get into
this program Sheikh Macheal
Macheal Smith.
How are you doing? I'm doing good. It's
good to be here. Good to be here
with you. Good to have you with us.
Seeing all the good work you're doing online.
Amazing. Amazing. And
bless it.
Let's get right into this clip. How's that?
Yeah. Let's look at it.
Anytime get straight into this and get some
of your feedback because you're an American. Yeah.
Yeah. Definitely.
You're also you're a former Baptist. Yeah. Catholic.
Yeah. Yeah. So you have a mix of
both here. Yeah. Yeah.
And you're,
born,
bred, and raised American.
And at the same time you were so
in love, intrigued by Islam, you became now
somebody who's a teacher of Islam. Right? An
academic in Islam. Yep. Yep. Been teaching
Islamic law, tafsir, you know,
breakdown of the of the sunnah, breakdowns of
the exegesis of the Quran for a long
time now. And so,
I mean, I accepted Islam over 20 years
ago and right away just went into study,
deep study of it. And so,
let's take a look at it. So I
I wanna just because some people sometimes they
can get past certain things because now it's
like, okay, it's different from our culture. But
let's say if we were sitting with a
priest, the priest would have, like, you know,
all black and he'd have a white, what
is that called? The Not sure.
By the Thai here area. Yeah. Let's say
if you had who he had, recently, Maramar,
the bishop. Okay. Okay. You know, he's got
the orthodox thing going off. Yeah. Yeah. So
how would you define, this? This is, just
a kind of traditional Arabic kind of like,
so,
with my kufi on the the kufi or
the head is kind of something that many
Muslims wear to represent their Islam and,
just kind of close to the way of
the prophet, a lot of people like to
dress in that way. And, you didn't become
Arab now, did you? Because all people oh,
you're Muslim. You're Arab. My name is Michael
Smith, man. Michael Smith. Michael Smith?
Yeah. As apple pie in baseball, man. That's
American. Right? Alright. And then Let's get into
this. Here's the reality, guys. Ready for it?
Islam has taken over the world. Oh, like
right here. Okay. Should I pause it right
there? I mean, this this Islam has taken
over the world kinda narrative.
It's it's it's a old narrative, man. It
goes orientalism back, like, way back. This kind
of, like, make make Islam the monster. Right?
Make Islam evil. Make everyone scared of it.
I mean, it's a very old old tactic.
Islam doesn't have global *,
agenda. Islam wants
to show, allow people to see the truth.
What did the prophet, peace and blessings be
upon him, teach? What did all of the
prophets, peace and blessings All the prophets. Going
all the way back to Adam. Jesus one
of them. I I often tell some people,
and I don't want people to misunderstand
this. I often tell people that after I
converted,
I felt closer to Jesus than when I
was a Christian. Repeat that again. Okay. So
after you converted to Islam, I felt closer
to Jesus. Why? Let me say why.
Because I felt as if Christianity was pay
you to say that? No, bro. This is
just my heart, man. I mean, it it's
when you objectively
look at what Islam is teaching, you'll you'll
see what what I'm saying. What I meant
was that,
I I felt that Christianity for me, it
was a religion about Jesus,
but Islam was a religion of Jesus. What
did he actually do? How did he live?
I would read verses
of the bible about how he lived, what
he ate, his diet, his way of prayer.
Right? And when I converted to Islam, this
is over 20 years ago now,
I felt closer. I felt even closer. Felt
even closer. Right? And deep. You felt closer
to Jesus. You felt close on him Yes.
Yes. As a Muslim. Yes. Because it wasn't
about worshiping him. It was it was about
following
a way
that he had laid down, not making him
the objective of that. Right? And that's what
people kinda have lost lost sight of. But
let me get back to this video. Right?
This kind of idea that Islam is taking
over, it kind of puts people on guard.
They don't wanna objectively look at it because
you just made it evil. You made it
something that's trying to take no one wants
to be taken over no matter what it
is. So by saying Islam is taking over,
what does he mean? Most of them, they
go down the route of, you know, population.
Muslim families are typically bigger. You know, the
western secular model is kind of Yeah. Highlighting
have 1 kid and a dog. You're good
to go. Yes.
Our our friend now, Patrick, he often is
repeat saying this that you can even have
more kids. It's the competition. Muslims are having
so many kids. Yeah. Well, I mean I
mean, it's
that's definitely the numbers are there for sure.
Like, you can't deny the fact It's good
thing having families. Yeah. Exactly. Because Islam, the
prophetic model of our our prophet Muhammad and
all of the prophets was a a model
of caring for the immediate family, having a
a taking care, investing in that next generation.
And I think the individualistic society, what happens
is it's all about my. It's all about
me. What am I gonna accomplish?
Having children, raising children takes a level of
sacrifice from yourself.
Right? I'm a father of 3. I understand.
It's just not about my own progress. It's
about investing in the progress of another generation.
And the more children you have, the it
becomes, it's a challenge like everyone knows. So
so this idea, like, Islam is taking over.
I think right away,
we can recognize he's he's putting everyone in
a defensive mode. Islam is taking over. Why?
Because some kids were praying on campus.
Prayer on campus is now a sign that
Islam is taking over the world.
I I think there's a problem with that.
Let's continue on here. They've already taken over
the Middle East. We've seen that. They've taken
over Europe. Do you see what's going on
in France? Time out right here.
What does that mean? Let's be specific. What
are you what are you saying happening in
France, Germany? Like, what are the specific things?
You're just naming different places. What's happening in
each of those places so that we can
discuss that. Right? That that's very important. This
is this is the objection we have because,
Patrick has my number
and he had before a Muslim and also
a Christian, why don't he be fair and
object? Come, let's give some some
some opportunity to go ahead and debate these
things. Perspective. Perspectives and pushback. You know? Definitely.
So go ahead and finish what you're saying.
Yeah. No. I'm just saying it's abstract. He's
not giving us, he's saying this is happening
everywhere. What what do you mean it's happening
everywhere? Right? If we look at some of
the European countries that were most heavily engaged
in colonialism in the early,
and the the the height of colonialism,
now they're having a problem that these the
the places that they colonize are coming back
to their own homeland. You are the first
ones colonizing places. You were the first spreading
your empires across the world.
Right? And so,
I think it's very interesting the perspective he's
taking. Let's keep going. In London, in UK,
in Germany, in the Netherlands,
all over Sweden, all over Europe, they're taking
over the caliphate. Okay. Hold on.
The caliphate. He's throwing out buzzwords.
Buzzwords. Literally just throwing out buzzwords. The caliphate.
What? What about it? Like, can you explain
that? And you can't just throw out a
word and just expect I was like, oh,
okay. Yeah. The caliphate. What about it? What
are you trying to say? Oh, the pope.
Oh, the, what was what I'm trying to
say. It's very shallow. It's very shallow. Yes.
But but it's these buzzwords that now just
creates people are just like, okay. It it
it creates, you know, this
this tension.
Yeah. So here's my recommendation to people. My
recommendation is
to go and talk to people
face to face.
Interact with another human being that shares a
slightly different perspective with you. Sit with them.
Converse with them. Understand them. Look into their
eyes. This is our our our prophet taught
a method of of dialogue. A lot of
my research, as you mentioned, my two books,
when hearing becomes listening in with the heart
and mind, I speak about this prophetic method
of connection.
Regardless of who he was dealing with, the
prophet Muhammad, peace and blessing be upon him,
he wanted an intimate connection with people.
So as long as we keep otherizing
people, we're never gonna have understanding between us.
Right? This is deep. This is deep. We
we have to connect. And so instead of
listening to people talk about other people, why
don't you go and you yourself enter meet
them? Let's talk, man. Right? Why don't you
go to a campus and go there? Speak
to them. Explain. Like, they have these things
that are called, like, listening sessions, which are
pretty it's pretty interesting. Right? It's let us
listen and hear which are pretty it's pretty
interesting. Right? It's let us listen and hear
your perspective. Right? Let us and then let's
let you should now listen to our perspective.
And what happens is
sometimes we'll realize that there's so much that
we overlap and then truly,
agree with. And there may be enlightenment that
happens on both sides. Yeah. So you throw
out you know, if you can go ahead,
I mean, and and always,
you throw out caliphate for example. Yeah. What
like you said, unpackage that. What does that
mean? I you can think,
what
the perception they're trying to create, again, this
tension, this negative World dominance. World dominance, but
hold on, if you have Khalafat, you know
khalifa, if you had at a time in
Jerusalem when the Muslims were under khalifa, right?
What happened? Didn't Omer
this is what, the 3rd caliph,
right? He actually repopulated Jerusalem with Jews, the
Muslims,
Jews. He literally brought them back after
people who follow the other 2 co hosts
with all due respect, they're Christian. It was
the Christians that kicked out the Jews and
said, no, this is a no go zone,
you cannot come here. They say the similar
thing with Spain. Right? The similar thing that
it was Muslims that were helping the Jews
of, of Andalus at the time. Under the
caliph.
But, again, when you're just throwing out a
buzzword, you're just throwing it. It's it's it's
you're lobbing it up there in the air
and hoping people take the most negative meaning,
without any depth there of true true understanding.
Yeah. That that's not being It's not fair.
It's not academic affairs. Absolutely not. And it
it's and I'm gonna say it again. It's
it's shallow. We're not going deep here. Is
this disingenuous? Yeah.
Yes. Talking about I have much love to
the moderates. Let's stop here. Let's stop here.
Much love. He has much love. He can't
he For the moderate Just stop it. The
moderate
is interesting because it's I'm okay with you
if you fit my definition of what Islam
is. So you, technically, now
he's like, where are the moderates? Like, so
you are you moderate to who? Moderate to
who? So so what does that mean? So
you are you moderate to who? Moderate to
who? So so what does that mean? That
means I don't pray 5 times a day?
Yeah. That means I don't care about my
brothers and sisters in Palestine
who, a genocide is happening. What what is
moderate to you? Again, it's a word that
doesn't have depth to it because it's not
defined. Yeah. Right? And so we're the moderates.
Whoever we put up, he'll point and by,
oh, he's not moderate.
Right? And so wait. What does that even
mean moderate? What are we talking about? What
does that mean? Are there specific issues
that there's an extreme stance on? For sure.
Are there issues that there could be a
a lenient stance on them in the community?
Yes. But what are those issues, and what
do you mean by where are the moderates
at? Right? Do you mean
what does that mean? Someone not practicing, is
that a moderate to you? So that would
be if you were there if you were
there right now, these are the questions you'd
ask, and then now you can go ahead
and develop some kind of understanding. You can
get educated. You can push back. You can
go back and forth and go ahead and
as I I always say, we're an open
book. Yeah. Talk to us. Exactly. And talk
about us. Exactly. To us. And and if
we look at if we look at,
the vast majority or all of those protesting
from the Muslim community in the encampments around
the country today, these are these are nonviolent
protests.
These are moderate Muslims. If if,
my understanding of the word moderate, these are
people who love humanity. They love their Muslim
brothers and sisters. They're tired of,
unchecked,
militaristic
aggression against a defenseless population.
And they they're they're upset that the people
are just turning a blind eye and letting
history repeat itself. And so, that word moderate
to me. So let's let it let's listen
to them for a bit. Much love to
the moderate Muslims out there. Respect to you.
But where are they? But but Speak up.
Cut your question, Naila. Because when you when
you say you could talk about, be anti
Semitic and anti Jewish and nothing happens and
it's totally cool. I I think in this
sense because it's Israel that from what I'm
seeing from the setup from China and Soros.
But I mean, if Kanye or anybody else,
all these people mentioned anything about, you know,
Jews run the world, they get canceled. So
you can't say No. That it's not right.
They don't get canceled. No. What do you
mean, Kanye? Their
corporations
that chose to do business with them? Yeah.
So so this is quite interesting. I mean,
the other person is kind of pushing back
that,
we've already had a
a culture in America and in the west
of,
the
cultural,
you know, stigma or the the evil of
speaking against any demographic in a derogatory way,
especially against the Jewish population.
And what he's saying here is pretty deep.
It's like, wait. There was already a status
quo
of being anti Semitic speaking straight up against
1 democrat, specifically the Jewish community in a
derogatory way.
You were already getting canceled for that. So
I think he's leading the way towards this
this bill that came, which kinda redefines anti
semitism
completely.
And then the pushback is now, oh, you're
not canceled
for speaking against Israel.
It's just follow the money. Your corporation,
you know, cuts you off. But I think
he's pushing back saying there was already a
standard. We already had a general understanding in
America of, what it meant to be anti
be antisemitic. Right? So,
again, let's keep listening. But I think what
he's pointing out there is there was we
already understood that. But here's the problem. They're
changing. They're moving the goal post. What's happening
now is a redefinition
of anti Semitism
to be synonymous
with the criticism
of the government policies of a country.
That doesn't make sense. Yeah. If a we
should all be able to objectively
criticize
if a country is doing something wrong.
And to just label it as antisemitism,
to
truly criticize into question whether something is ethically
right or wrong.
No one is right just because of who
they are.
It's about the actions. It's about what you're
doing as a country, as a nation,
your policy towards another people that judges whether
you are right or wrong. No one has
a monopoly on truth, and everyone should be
subject to be questioned. Why are you guys,
committing genocide? Why are you wiping out a
population
of defenseless people? What's going on? What's the
reason for that? So now you're gonna end
up getting labeled if you question
now because the slogan was never again. Right?
So now we are seeing something happen here
at the Holocaust, this is happening. Right before
eyes. You know kids pulling out body parts,
right? Where is your
love of Jesus and his way which he's
talking about love your neighbor, love, love, love,
blessed are the peacemakers and people like Candace
Owens, you've heard of her, when she speaks
out she gets canned, now fired. Yep. So
other Christians also
start to, you know, see that this is
not the teachings
of love
and when you have Carl Tuckerson coming on
and he brings on the Palestinian Christian out
there. Yep. Did you see that? Yeah. And
he's call they're calling this out. Like Yep.
See, I I think we're seeing the awakening
though, especially with this new bill. Once you
threaten an American's free speech,
you might as well have attacked baseball. So
this bill is dangerous and unconstitutional
and wrong on every level. Right? Like, you
cannot go after free speech in America.
Right? And people are seeing it for what
it is.
People are now questioning that we're not questioning
before. There were many of us that already
understood this. Right? But people are questioning now
how much the political contributions
are contributing to the these these politicians
formulating their
opinions. They're not principled. They're just following the
money. You have a Matt Walsh from What
is a Woman? You've heard him. He's also
from the Israeli
Wire or.
Declaring aspects of the bible hate speech. Of
course. Yeah. So he was also coming out.
He was on the same network or media
with,
Kenneth Owens Yeah. Part of the Ben Shapiro
squad.
And so he's coming out. He's someone who's
a strong advocate like many conservative Christian Americans.
Americans like you said, this is like baseball,
right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Free speech. Yep. But it's eroding now. Yeah.
Because of lobbying Yeah. Because of what, certain
people's,
state interest that you cannot even criticize Mhmm.
A foreign country. Mhmm.
In a in a way that I I
honestly feel like some ways that the bill
does more harm to the people you're try
they're trying to protect than good. Because the
average American, when they look at the threatening
of free speech, is now following that chain
back. Like, woah. What just happened?
How did
did did a foreign country's lobby have so
much power in our congress? Right? And and
and it could have a negative impact for
what they're actually trying to do. Right?
Just just just how the average American, conservative
Americans, and even for across the IOR, like,
wait.
How are they how is another country having
so much impact
on the policies that we're we're we're implementing
here?
And then, to see let's get to the
root of the matter here because now the
narrative is that, okay,
if
certain people, Palestinians or other Muslims had their
way,
we're trying to protect ourselves from them. But
now you in studying, I mean, so you
went from being a Baptist Christian, Catholic,
and obviously you put it on the line.
I mean your family, you gotta go against
the odds, you know, a lot of challenges,
but the truth. I mean, you wanted obviously
the truth
and the belief in 1 and only one
God being morally upright, the Quran is a
preserved book. Anyone who comes at it with
a sincere heart will see this is from
the creator that helps us. Yeah. It's a
continuation of the message of Esa, Jesus. The
continuation of the message of Jesus and Moses
and Abraham,
same way of life.
Now you are convinced and now you've been
studying Islam for 20 years, In that studying
of 20 years, is Islam teaching you to
hate Jews? Not at all. Come on. Not
at all. You just say come on. No.
I mean Like, it's a joke, man. It's
that's what people don't realize. Like, it's it's
almost laughable when people
who have actually spent time around Muslims, let
alone someone who's had the privilege and honor
of studying
deeply
Islamic law and Islamic scripture. And for the
last, you know, 15 years of my life,
I've been a teacher of these things. So
for me, as you said, it's almost laughable.
And I I don't I don't mean to
patronize anyone or laugh, but,
this idea that there is any type of
hate for Jews or hate for Christians in
Islam,
is quite interesting because
the the Quran speaks so much about this
term, the people of the book. Right,
in in a in a in in a
way that they're so close to Islam. Right?
Having the tradition of other prophets. Of course,
we believe in the finality of the prophethood
of Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him.
We believe that his message abrogates the previous
messages but continues in the theme of monotheism
and devotion to God.
But this this kind
of a world dominance view of Islam having
this alter low key agenda,
it's it's it's it's it's funny. It's just
laughable. And and what's not funny about it
low key is the,
number of people that,
are just influenced by such shallow dialogue like
we're we're witnessing here. And so my recommendation
to those people kill all mosquitoes in the
area and just Go ahead. Yeah. My recommendation
to such people is what I said earlier.
I think if they truly had dialogue with
the Muslims around them, and there are Muslims
around them, if they truly had dialogue with
Muslims around them and not been spoonfed from
these,
clickbaity
things, then they'd realize, like, wait.
That guy I know, Ahmed down the street,
my dentist or my doctor or, you know,
the guy in the Uber who's driving me,
like,
that's the true representation
often of what Islam is, not this right
here. It's such a strange relationship because you
have our our friend Patrick.
He's got his, 2 cohosts, 3 actually, 3
I believe are Christian,
so you're sitting next to someone if he's
following his religion also and this is with
no
disrespect,
This is just fact, just look it up.
I mean you have
here us as Muslims we say Jesus, peace
be upon him, we actually love Jesus. This
is the ironic thing. What you're saying is
so deep, go ahead. But then you got
over here this person who's bashing Islam but
he's gotta do Taqiyyah that they accuse Muslims
of, there's no such thing, this is a
Shia concept of a certain branch of Shias,
So we are people who are taught to
be honest, upright,
hold to a strict moral code. So here
if he is going to actually imagine your
co host is someone who if he's following
tenants of, he hates Jesus.
Right? He thinks that But now you can't
say that. You can't say that. But But
that's what it actually says. That's the text.
Right? Listen to this. This is from the
Talmud,
and this is where Jesus Christ, our lord
and savior,
is being boiled in hot excrement. Like, you
can't deny what's there. Yeah. But now this
is interesting because they don't want us talking
about that. That's the thing now. That's what's
so interesting. Shut down the conversation. What's crazy
what's crazy about our tradition is,
without going deep into the history, there was
a moment when the early Muslim community,
they migrated to,
Abyssinia,
in order to flee the persecution they were
going through, which was a Christian country,
and they were they were questioned about what
they believe
in Jesus.
And, Jafar, who was the cousin of the
prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, may
Allah be pleased with them, all of the
companions of the prophet.
He gave this beautiful speech about who Jesus
was,
and it left the Christian priest in that
gathering, history tells us, weeping
and and and aweing in the beauty in
which and the reverence with which
Islam speaks about Jesus.
Your Quran,
say of the birth of our dear lord
Jesus Christ.
In the name of god, most gracious,
most merciful,
relate in the book the story of Mary,
how she withdrew from her family to a
place in the east,
how we sent to her our angel, Gabriel,
who said,
I am a messenger from your God,
to announce the birth of a holy son
to you.
She said, how shall I, Mary, have a
son when no man has touched
me? And Gabriel replied,
for your Lord says,
it will happen.
We appoint him as a sign unto man
and a mercy from us.
About
about Jesus. Right? Peace and blessings be upon
him. That is truly what's in our book.
That is what's in our history. We love
Isa, alayhis salaam, Jesus.
But, again, what you're saying is so important,
and people are sleeping on this that,
what does the scriptures of other,
the Talmud and different things, what does it
actually say about
who Jesus was? Listen to this, this is
from the Talmud
and this is where Jesus Christ our lord
and savior
is being boiled in hot excrement
as a punishment
for mocking the words of the of the
rabbis.
It's not really nice. We're actually saying his
name correctly. What do you have? J e
s u s, if you take the j?
Because
in the Semitic languages, you didn't have that
j in from the e. Right?
That wasn't
even his name. Yeah. Issa. Yeah. So you
would have take the j off. You have
Isus. How would you pronounce it without the
j? Esus.
Ah, yes. That's beautiful. What what do you
have here? I've never noticed that. Wow. Esus.
Yeah. Esus.
Yeah. We love Esus. Jesus. Let's go to
this next
clip here. This is the original one that
was sent and then this one came out.
All this stuff is developing. Yeah. And then
this is with the protest that's happening and
free speech being eroded. There was a video
you showed me about, in UCLA. What were
they doing in UCLA? So, yeah. There was
a a a bunch of protesters,
that were 100 of students converting to Islam
and participating in an Islamic call to prayer
as you saw it on the lawn.
I sent it to Rob.
Or Okay. Let's stop for a moment. Okay.
First of all, we could talk about the
aspect of whether it's accurate or not. And
we could talk about that.
But before that, here's the question.
So what?
Religious freedom.
What like, from a American perspective,
the right to to religion, the right to
believe what you wanna believe.
But, again, we're not
it's a double standard.
So what if a lot of people are
accepting Islam?
That's part of American what it means to
be American. We were bounded on religious freedom.
Right? But how it's demonized. See that? How
it's demonized.
But here's the other thing.
I assure you that's not probably what happened.
What happened is these a lot of people
interfaith. They see Muslims praying.
People participate.
People participate. Oh, I'll pray with the Muslims.
Right? Did they all convert?
I mean, what's the reality of that?
But, again, just number 1, making it like,
oh, hundreds of people are converting. We're taking
over. Again, what's the narrative? Take over. Take
over. Take over. Put everyone in defense. Fear.
Fear. Fear. That's it. That's it. What does
that lead to? Violence. Violence. Now second of
all so the first thing is, so what?
Second of all, that's probably not even what
happened. They were defending Muslims who were praying.
Right? And and Muslims were praying Jummah, their
Friday prayer, their their we pray 5 times
a day. Of course, we're going to pray.
Like,
that's what a Muslim does. A moderate Muslim
prays. Like, that's what we do. We pray.
And people sometimes join us. What's what's the
big deal? Like Yeah. How come this is
worth noteworthy?
That's what I wanna know. Why is this
noteworthy? Unless you're creating a narrative
that the point of all of this is
to take over America with Islam again. What
is it, bro? Feel like we're back in
the, like, early 2000. I don't know. Like,
what's going on? Yeah. With the shari'ah's coming
to get you, the boogeyman. What what do
we make of? Muslims are, like, 1%. What
is it? Of, America? I don't know the
numbers exactly, but it's absurd. It's absurd. Yeah.
But if you just I like defining words.
So if if if what he said now
and he seemed like a nice guy when
I met him also.
And,
if you define the word Islam,
if you say, okay,
people students are are converting to or converting
to
people are accepting submission to the will of
God because
and having peace because that's what Islam literally
means, doesn't it? Yeah. Peace acquired
by submitting your will to the will of
God. Yeah. What he means is they're changing
their worldview to becoming a Muslim worldview and
that's problematic for the West. Yeah. This is
age old orientalism again. But the same show
was actually aligning.
Right? They were bringing on Andrew Tate, Habib,
and the whole thing with a man could
be a woman, a woman could be a
man, and they were really like they were
liking that Islam was the last stronghold
with all of the sexualization of children, the
moral code of Islam. Now it's kinda You
know why it changed? Right. It's changing because
the world global community
has now woken up, awakened to the realization
that what Israel is doing in Palestine
is genocide.
And so now
we can't at all show any
softness. We have to go to our other
allies.
Right? We have to just defend them tooth
and nail.
And,
we need to the Quran says,
and I'll I'll I'll read the Arabic and
then translate if that's okay. Yeah. Absolutely.
Yeah. Absolutely.
Allah
tells us believers, and this is what we
should
strive to be, that,
be people who stand up to justice,
witnesses for God
even if it be against yourself. And what
that means is
the truth is the truth.
Regardless of who does it,
they need to be called out for it.
What is happening on in Palestine right now,
rafaa Gaza,
what's happening there is a genocide. These are
defenseless
people. The strong one of the strongest world's
militaries
is wiping out a population.
Just call it what it is. Sleep good
at night.
Realize that you spoke truth in a tough
moment.
Right? It doesn't matter who does it. Here's
the crazy part.
The thing people are having trouble with is
that the
victims in World War 2 are now the
oppressive nation. Not all. I am by no
means saying all.
What I'm saying is that this state that
was created as a result of
World War 2 are now the perpetrators of
injustice.
And people have to be strong enough to
go,
you were oppressed,
but now what you're doing is wrong.
You don't have
the standard of truth just to be with
you because of who you were. Mhmm. By
no means and I don't wanna be misquoted.
So I'm saying again, by no means am
I saying those people who were who were
massacred in World War 2. This is an
evil evil that happened?
Sure.
Undoubted evil that happened. By no means am
I saying those exact people. Yeah. Of course.
Right? This is generations later.
But,
wherever oppression happens, whoever is the one doing
wrong,
the Quran is teaching us even if you're
doing wrong,
you're wrong.
So even if our friends,
the Quran and that same verse says, if
it be your close brother, if it be
your own parents,
what we want is to stand next to
truth.
And right now,
the objective eye, if they truly look look.
Let me give an example.
They were looking into,
different
potential war crimes that are happening in Philistine,
and White House representatives were being asked by
reporters,
you know, hey. We need someone to look
into this. Who's looking into it? And the
White House, you know, press,
reporter was saying, yeah. We're asking Israel to
give us more details. And the reporters are
dumbstruck. They're saying, you're asking the accused
to investigate
themselves?
And they just kept repeating the same thing.
And
it there's just the double speak is so
clear now. So for the people that have
missed this, this is just like the person
who's accused of murder, of *, or whatnot,
and then the prosecutor says,
let let him investigate himself and bring us
his findings if he's guilty or not. It's
absurd. And what I think people are doing,
they realize it, but the average American realize
it, and then they're just kinda getting on
with life. Yeah. Like, oh, okay. Yeah. There's
this cognizant
cognitive dissonance that's happening.
Right? And what these protests are trying to
force
is that there is no cognitive dissonance.
Realize what's happening.
Answer the question.
Like, what is is what this nation is
doing to this population of defenseless people? Is
this is this right? You know? Do are
you okay with this? Are you okay with
your tax dollars
funding this
when we have so many domestic problems?
Yes.
So many domestic problems
but 1,000,000,000 of dollars
due to a loyalty,
but our loyalty should be to truth and
justice and what's right
and wrong.
And and every pundit
is getting caught in doublespeak.
They know it. I don't understand how they
look in the mirror when they Yeah. It's
it's clearly hypocrisy.
Then you have Palestinians who are saying, we
got nothing against Jews.
If it was my own brother stealing my
home, if it was a Muslim stealing my
land, I would be against him also. Yep.
Just like any American Yep.
Who came over or, you know, stealing,
someone came, the migrants or whoever coming from
a plane,
boat, whatever from
Mexico, this place, that place started, you know,
taking over your house. Yeah. You know what
I think is happening, though, on a deeper
level? I think, like, the evangelicals
have for a long time, long time, well
before October 7th, have been pushing a narrative
that we that the evangelical
sector should love the cause of Israel,
because
if they get their job done, Jesus comes
back. Right? There's a there's a conflict. Yeah.
That's the engineering of prophecy psychology. Yeah. Like,
this whole it's a so it's really interesting
when you talk to but I wanna speak
on a positive note for a moment. Yeah.
I was, you know, we had a group
chat,
a a a Zoom call last week, and
there were a number of prominent,
Christian,
African American
Christian priests,
pastors, deacons, you know, religious leaders
who are all in all of their churches,
preaching and talking about the plight of Philistine
openly. Yes. Openly. So we're seeing a shift.
People are realizing, like, people with eyes see.
They're seeing what's going on.
Yeah. This is that, when I had a
Christian senior pastor, he broke down this dispensationalism,
the rapture,
and Scofield Bible. I want people to look
into this. So you had
the Cyrus Scofield,
he was a con man and he got
these teachings from, John Nelson,
Darby,
these outside really far extreme teachings from Christianity.
Okay. And then he took these and he
started preaching them, people like untime prophecies and
whatnot. Then he got funded by the Zionist
American Organization. They took him to the UK,
Oxford printing press printed the Scofield Bible
and now you have the exegesis
of certain verses that are either connecting them
to this monastery that is you heard about
that? A little bit. A million copies for
free, then you had the Late Great Planet
Earth, another series, 40,000,000 copies, so the passage
is telling us that this was a well
funded effort
to go ahead and push this propaganda
through the
Scofield Bible. Now the Christian
who is all about love love love and
love your neighbor and love for humanity, Jesus,
Prince of Peace and all this stuff,
now he's led to believe, programmed to believe
that this is part of their akida, this
is part of their belief to support this
when
1st 1800 years of Christianity Didn't exist. It
didn't exist. So this is a new phenomenon
that's happening so hopefully our Christian friends and
neighbors can go investigate this and they can
start speaking out also because you actually have
more Zionists than you have Christian Zionists, and
now they're trying to engineer this whole
virgin cow,
the heifer,
the red cow to take over Moshedu Aksar,
and you know about this. Yeah, I know,
I'm familiar with it. It gets deep.
Let's go ahead and, let it play and
then,
Oil London's a big oil gift. He loves
oils. It's like Oh, there's white people in
there. There's people at ballet. Don't even know
how to wear the freaking hijab. Don't You
guys not No. No. Stop here. Yes. It's
even painful. You're getting frustrated. Yeah. There's white
people. What does that mean? Yeah.
So they're they're very shallow. It's almost That
is because that insinuates that this is an
Arab. This is for brown black people. What
do white people do? I'm actually, like, anyone
with a slight level of intelligence
is, like,
what is what is white? What is black
in Islam? Like,
are there
I don't even know where to start. I'm
so sorry. It's just because
there's white people there? Do you know what
Palestinians
look like? Do you know what,
people from Lebanon,
Syria look like? Have you seen this is,
again, the I'm telling people to meet people.
Because when you see a red haired Palestinian
kid, you're gonna be like, oh, wow. Right?
When you see
this that there's white people there. That's such
an
Bosnia,
the countries that are Eastern European. The brother
who sent me the this video,
he's from, he's a he's, from Syria. He
looks white. That's like that this is so
shallow. This is so, like,
bottom feeder. Like like
people Bottom feeder.
Like, there's white people there. Like Yeah. Come
on. Come on, guys. Come on. Do better
than that. Yeah. These are Muslims praying.
Look.
They're telling them not to record. Now what?
These are Muslims praying. What's the deal?
And it's funny. I'm tired of Look. The
white people white people just sitting there. They
have no idea what's going on. What is
this? Like, they're praying? They're praying. I don't
have a problem with that. No. No. But
some people Look. You notice he has to
balance the way he's like that that just
there that by the way, you know what
I would say? You know what I would
say? Here's what I would say. Christians, why
don't you go pray as well? Oh, yeah.
They'll not you'll never see a Christian watch.
Woah. Woah. Hold on. What does he mean
by that? He so here you see the
main host kind of in a tough place
because he realized how shallow what the guy
is saying. Like, the footage they're showing shows
nothing. It shows people sitting down watching Muslims
pray.
So it actually like Jesus, actually. Yeah. So
that's a whole another song. That's a whole
another thing. Told you. Matthew 2639,
and he went a little further, fell on
his face, and prayed to God. Jesus prayed
like this. You should be praying like we're
praying. When I told you, like, when I
converted, I felt closer to Jesus than before.
That's what I was talking about. These verse
about how we worship. How he washed before
he prays. Abolition. Anyway, so it's that's a
whole another discussion.
But,
again,
the one host is trying to make this
look so scandalous.
And the main host actually realizes, like, what
are we we're not seeing anything. We're seeing
other non Muslims sitting watching Muslims pray.
How can we make this a big deal?
And then now he switches it to, why
don't you Christians go pray? Let's finish listening
to that because I wanna see what he
means by go go pray. No. Why why
don't you go on campus? Good. No. Why
why don't you go on campus and pray?
So what? This to me is an element
of competition.
Switched the switched the he switched the goalposts.
He switched what do you mean? Meaning, like,
the one guy wasn't talking about that. He
was talking about Islam taking over. Yeah. And
now the other host, he sees that's a
dead end because it's like
there's nothing there. So now he's switching the
direction.
He goes, well, they're better than you now.
Look how they're praying more than you. You
should be praying too. Uh-huh. Wait. I I
thought you guys brought the video up to
show Islam taking over. Yeah. And now that
it's switching a direction
to what? Started with the boogeyman coming to
get you. Yeah. Now it's like, oh, they're
better than you. You need to pray too.
Why are you just sitting
there? Okay. I is that what we're talking
about now? Okay.
You're catching those snakes.
They're simply out praying you
5 times to 1. They're out praying you
like you wouldn't believe. I don't have a
problem with this. Yeah. I've Everything that ever
becomes big
that does well, they had they are better
at rituals.
They're better at traditions.
They're better at those things. Whether it's last
names, companies, religions, cultures, all of that. When
I see something like this and I say,
okay. Guess what? Yeah. I don't know where
he's going right now. He's Okay. He's just
talking. Yeah. Okay. So,
let's, we're almost out of time. So what
are we, what's the summary? What what The
summary here's here's what what what I'm gonna
say to my, my fellow countrymen. My message
is
go across go out of your comfort zone
and and meet other people.
Have dialogue with people. Talk to other Muslims.
Don't take
your understanding of other people
through these sources. That's not that's not how
you learn who who humanity is, who who
people are.
In every city across the country, there are
Muslims who,
can talk to you and explain explain where
these encampments are. There are people there who
are giving
time
of their week sitting in these places because
they believe so passionately.
Go sit there. Talk to them. Just understand.
So,
the Quran speaks about coming together and and
talking to one another. And I truly believe
that if we put our biases aside
and we objectively
look at the loss of 35 to 40000
lives, majority of which are women and children
in the ongoing onslaught,
I think we can come to a conclusion
that these people who are already under
decades
of oppression
and colonialization
and apartheid.
This is what the reality was
that now it's gone up to a level
of genocide.
Talk to other people that understand these things,
and you'll don't listen to these things because
they don't really give you a fair representation
of what the other side is saying. And
so my message to people is
open your eyes. Look at,
these these bills that are being formulated
and trying to be passed. It's only been
through the house. I don't think it's gone
through the senate yet, so it still has
to be pushed through the senate and stuff.
But,
realize how much lobbying and money is playing
into
our our our our country's
trajectory,
and just wake up wake up. They're fooling
you. You've been duped and you are we're
we're getting to see this live now. You're
gonna give up all of your most of
your constitutional rights now because of the fear
of,
a boogeyman, Islam coming to get you. Yes.
So now
they're pushing this and
you need and and the show is based
on a lot of the principles of the
constitution that they talk about, you know, when
they were talking about their they were criticizing
when people were going out there
shutting down the speech of one who's advocating
for
there to be
a washrooms
that a man can't go into a woman's
washroom and people are speaking out, they're shutting
it down, the
the the, the democrats and whatnot, but now
you're shutting down free speech when people are
just putting putting their humanity on. These are
Jews also who are speaking out. Yeah.
You also have Christians Yeah, that's important to
talk about. Yeah, Christians are certain Christians who
are not brainwashed with this whole Cyrus Scofield
Yeah. Theology and whatnot,
they're speaking out and they're saying this is
wrong, you know? This is we also, if
it was
innocent
Jewish children or Christian children, Islam calls us
to stand up against us. We we don't
have a problem condemning it. Why do you
have a problem condemning it? Meaning, why? Why
Yep. I I I I'm a 100%. Everything
you're saying is exactly spot on. We will
condemn this. You know, it one thing I
know we're gonna wrap it up, but one
thing I find interesting is one of the
things that I read was in that bill
was this saying that the Jews killed Jesus,
right? That is another example on the list
that's gotten some attention. It's the it is
that it's anti Semitic to claim that Jews
killed Jesus. That's what the IHRA says, but
that is not a claim invented by antisemites
that's in the gospel.
And and and I saw a congressman try
to, you know,
walk it back that, oh, to say all
Jews and stuff like that.
And and what's interesting here, what's interesting in
this moment
is when it comes to Jesus,
may the peace and blessings of God be
upon him.
Muslims
deeply
love,
venerate,
respect. I don't know what else to say.
We love Jesus.
He's in our book. There's so much positive.
Of course, we don't believe he's the son
of God, but he's a prophet of God.
And now the Jewish we're talking text now.
Text.
The Jewish Talmud says very clearly, like, this
is not this is factual data, but now
we can't say that anymore if this bill
is passed. We can't say that. It's like
opening the Quran and and saying here that,
that there's a chapter named after,
meet Jesus' mother. It's factual, it's there. It's
there. It's chapter 19 of the Quran, right?
It's there. The chapter of Mary. Of Mary.
The mother of Jesus. We're not hiding it.
It's there. Go look what it says. So
so what's happening now
is
the part of their their their
belief system,
which would make a
should make a Christian unsettled
is being forbidden to be said anymore.
Do you understand where I'm going with this?
Whereas
whereas that is actually what they believe. They
don't like Jesus, quite frankly. Right? Like,
they they did not. Right? And that's where
they're gonna say, well, you can't say that
now because you're you're painting a wide brush
on everyone. Okay.
Historically,
a group
of Jews
were the ones who killed or attempted to
kill Jesus. Right? And their Talmud speaks in
a negative light of him. That is factual
data.
And the Muslims just factual data. No spin
here, guys.
The Muslims love Jesus and the Virgin Mary,
mother of Jesus.
That's just factual data. Can you say without
a doubt that it is anti Islam
to be anti Jewish?
Of of course. Of course. Because g Yes.
Yes. And I'll and I'll give evidence. Like,
you correct me if I'm wrong. Right? You've
You've been teaching for 20 years because
Jesus, Moses,
by ethnicity
they were Jews. Right? Yeah. But by faith
they were ones who submitted their will to
God, so they were Muslim. Mhmm. So to
be anti Jewish is to be, what, anti
Mary, anti
Jesus,
to be anti Semitic is anti Palestinian. Arabs
and Palestinians are Semitic peoples. Let me let
me answer your question more direct on. You
asked me, is it anti Islam to be
anti Jew? And I'll say this straightforward,
unequivocally,
very clearly.
When prophet Mohammed arrived in Medina, there was
a community
of Jews already
living there. Yes. He formed a treaty with
them, and he called The Medina Charter. Yes.
That he called us all.
Now in English, that means we are one
nation. One nation.
That's our prophet doing that. Goes one nation
under God.
It's in our books. Before the constitution.
That is really profound.
The
He's in it says it clear. We are
so long that we uphold justice and we
are not treacherous
and we do not break the covenant. We
are all one nation.
Mhmm. The problem is not Judaism.
Come on. The problem is colonialism
and Zionism.
This is my right to take this land
from you.
That's the issue.
That's the problem.
The god given right that this is mine
that feeds into that white supremacy stuff too.
Right? So, again,
I hope that our listeners I hope I'm
not preaching to the choir. You know? I
hope that there are people from different dom
denominations
that listen to this and and find it
within themselves to, you know, dialogue
with other Muslims and get a fair view
and perspective and to not be spoon fed
by this,
bottom feeder content. This is not Bottom feeder.
I like the top up. Deep stuff. This
is not academically sound. It's not deep. They're
just throwing stuff in. Literally,
you know, they, you know, they they throw
something on the wall, see if it sticks.
That's what's happening here. Yeah. And, unfortunately, I'm
looking at the view count, how many 1,000,
80,000 people just sat there and listened to
someone throw stuff on the wall and see
if it sticks, and
you could have spent that time talking to
an actual human being Come visit the Muslim.
Come to the mosque. Come.
You can call us. 1-800-662-4752.
We got a hotline. You can go and
ask questions. Before we conclude also, you as
a Baptist Christian, also a Catholic,
and now also one of the talking points
that they like to mention is that now
someone who
they make this, subtle
and sometimes even direct that if someone accepts
Islam, if you're someone who's supporting
or your humanity is on it, you don't
wanna see babies dying, that somehow you're anti
America,
you're and you now, Michael Smith, now that
you've accepted Islam, are you like anti
American to exercise free speech, free religion. American
to exercise
free speech, free religion.
It's that's not un American. That is what
America is about, diversity,
about difference, about saying no. You know what?
That's wrong. What's what's American? Rosa Parks sitting
on a bus saying I'm not moving. That's
Right? Civil rights, that's American. We're because we
we we our country is supposed to allow
that demonstration of no.
They're not gonna just stifle that and push
it down. So,
what does it mean to be un American?
If you guys think you have a monopoly
on what it means to be America, be
American, I just think you haven't got on
the ground and walked through the inner cities
of Philadelphia and New York and different places
and seen the diversity that exists.
I think that, yes, we may be against
certain aspects of what you think it means
to be American.
Right?
But but that's not you don't have a
monopoly on what it means to be American
straight up. We want the best. I I
mean, I love my country, America. Well, you
might not agree with certain I don't agree
that now a man should go in a
woman's bathroom. I mean was that American? No.
But now we have free speech, now we're
gonna according to the law within comp with
what's permitted, we're gonna go and speak out
against certain certain evils that now people
have started to evolve to do in morality
and whatnot. If you go back at a
certain point in time in America
you would not see where, like, the cohost,
sorry, with all due respect, you know, someone
who's,
you know, there's not no low blow or
anything, but you see, like, people it's a
hypocrisy when you see
someone, you know, we're pushing family values and
you got people who are, you know, pushing
out, they're promoting Onlyfangirls.
Right? Mhmm. Mhmm. Promiscuity.
Yeah. You know, all these things. Now is
that American? So when Muslims speak up they
say, look, like, you remember you watched some
of these old films, like, where you'd have
the father
if the 2 were coming together, the father's
in the back and marriage was more promoted.
Right? Yes. Definitely. This is Islamic. This is
a this was a part of America at
one time. Right? And I think that's where
they had great work happening, please. You had
in Chicago here, you had at one point,
you had tickets being issued
if you were not properly dressed at the
beach. Wow.
In Chicago you could see the men wearing
tank tops and the women also not being,
you know Well, even till today, there's something
called indecent exposure. Indecent exposure. Well, it just
keeps getting We can go deeper into it
but Alright. There's a there's a idea.
Yeah. I mean, that's another rabbit hole to
talk about, but the idea of, like, there's
a level of shame at some level. The
fact that there are laws on indecent exposure
shows that we understand as a human being
that there's some level of exposure that is
too much.
But all that changes is over time, that
standard changes.
But you already have laws that there's a
such thing as indecent.
So decency,
and I'm gonna monopolize? Now you are holding
out what's American, what's not, and who's American,
who's not, and what not. Yeah. So that's
see, these chill what's the hard part is
that the people he was showing in those
videos, praying, these college students, young Muslim, these
are 3rd sometimes 3rd generation
Americans. Yeah. Right? The that's why a lot
of this goes back to,
immigration too.
A lot of it goes back to xenophobia.
Right? A lot of it goes back to
xenophobia because as we see the rates of,
the family growth rates
What's the what's the term? I'm sorry. But
the the rate at which,
certain demographics are reproducing
is outweighing
is is is out stretching the Yeah. Rate
of reproduction in our in other demographics. Right?
And so there's a threat. People feel threatened.
Right? But there's nothing to be afraid of.
Like, that's what we have to understand and
that's what we have to talk about. Tell
tell us what was it finally you felt
closer to Jesus,
Michael
Smith, former Christian, obviously now what was it
at the end that finally had you accept
submission to the will of the creator and
of the creation Oh, man. Well, this is
Islam. I know we're at the end of
our show here, so I'm gonna give the
short version of it.
I honestly and I don't mean to
offend anyone, but I have always felt as
I was studying Christianity
that it was rather confusing. The nature of
God was confusing. The trinity. The trinity and
the nature of who Jesus was.
I find a lot of double speak when
they, people say, lord,
they say attach lord to Jesus Christ
or they pray to Jesus Christ. I think
people some people will outright say, oh, he
is God. No. He's the son of God.
You know? There's a lot of haziness there
even amongst certain,
denominations
of what the nature of Jesus
was.
And I felt as I studied Islam that
it was just crystal clear
crystal clear
who Jesus was, who God was, who prophets
were,
and the role and function that they served.
And,
as a Muslim, we worship 1 God. We
believe in all the prophets. The prophets come
and give us a message. We follow that
message to the tee because that's what the
prophets brought us. It's a struggle. Some days,
you're weaker. Some days, you're stronger.
But that's the struggle of life to be
upright.
And,
for me, I'll say it was the Quran.
I I read the Quran,
and it just spoke to me. It was
familiar to me. It was familiar but clarifying.
Right? Familiar but clarifying.
I I converted
right after September 11th,
and,
I I I think one thing that helped
me a lot, there wasn't a lot of
Internet at that time. I don't remember. It
was way back in the day. And I
just dealt with people. I talked to people.
I read the Quran myself. I talked to
people.
And,
yeah, that's pretty much it. That's pretty much
it. What advice would you have for, Patrick,
Ben David? Really, I mean, he he had,
a lot of Muslim family. He's a lot
of Muslims are are feeling very, disrespected. Islam
is being dis
ara, what advice would you have for him,
so he can be more fair and balanced
and he doesn't end up creating more resentments
within the Muslim community? I I don't I
don't know him. I I haven't really listened
to a lot of his stuff to be
honest.
To And I wanna say, we're we're me
sitting with him, sitting in and seem like
a very nice man. To all influencers,
who have a platform. And Yes. I say
to them, be
upright. Be honest. Honest.
Be be be,
be honest. Be honest
and
don't worry about the money. And I'm not
saying he is. Yeah. But a lot of
time, there's pressure because where where my kids
kids get food from. Right? And I'm not
saying he is. I don't know him. So
this is not at all an attack on
him. I don't know the man at all.
But a lot of times, our pocketbooks and
the impact financially is what's going to determine
who's on who's on shows,
who's
speaking,
what narratives are going.
And,
when you speak truth,
it's gonna be difficult
speaking truth. They say when Martin Luther King
before he was assassinated,
his popularity
rate was so low. Who? Martin Luther King
Jr. Martin Luther King?
His popularity rate was so low
despite that.
Despite now we look back and there were
there's a holiday for him. Wow. Right?
What if you're searching for likes and attention
sometimes Even Muhammad Ali, same thing. Exactly. So
what I'm trying to say is
there has to be a moral,
compass that is focused on God and focused
on my responsibility
for God. And that one day, I'm gonna
stand before God and be questioned about everything
that I said. And sometimes speaking the truth
is not going to be advantageous
to your sponsors, to this, to that, to
that, and a third. But, at the end
of the day, we're all gonna stand before
God and be questioned about what we did.
Thank you. Thank you for Thank you. Helping
us to go over this latest developments with
this, so the people that they can benefit
of this and, most importantly, the people viewing,
and they can get a different perspective. No.
It's amazing. I love it. My my research,
my book that I've written, when hearing becomes
listening and with the heart and mind, they're
all about the prophetic
the prophetic model of it connecting with people
and how important it is to connect with
one another. And so when we see everyone,
polarizing,
more than ever, we need to come together
and really just understand each other. Those two
books are heart
with the heart and mind. With the heart
and mind. And when hearing becomes listening. And
where can people get those books? I'm Uzole
O Come Up. O Come Up? Come Up.
Yeah. Thank you.
And it comes down to having the rectitude,
the moral integrity,
and we will continue to go ahead and
have this dauntless
persistence to relaying the truth, to helping people
understand the truth,
and the truth shall set you free. And
if you go ahead and continue to tune
in, you're gonna get more of the proper
perspective. And if you really want to,
like our guest here, what did he do?
He read the Quran. So
people really promote,
being someone who is sound in their reasoning,
reading,
learning, growing.
Have you read the Quran? You're talking about
Islam. Why don't you pick up the Quran
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