Muslim confronts man trying to burn the Quran after his car flips
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He's out there, obviously provoking Muslims. Definitely. Why did you come here today? To learn Quran, which I'm gonna burn gumball.
You can't burn the Word of God this person's nickname is the Quran burner. And no matter what you do, you tried to extinguish the light of Allah. Allah will perfect his life. Right?
Before I'm defending my country from becoming how, by burning someone's book,
there was a rally against him. That's good. And it was not Muslims who showed up the people of Norway the youngsters non Muslim so why are you against this then? We respect religion and freedom. It's not freedom to burn the koran
be wrong God, Allah, Allah
and His final messengers, Muhammad peace be upon him. This is our religion, Islam, Islam. This is the dijo girl I
was ready to talk about this. I would only talk about explaining how much respect I have for the faith of Islam. Show. Welcome to the deen show. The Deen show
me that hamdulillah As salam alayka Welcome to the deen Show. I'm your host. And we're going to be talking about this book that's been sent down as a guidance to mankind and you got somebody burning it. And we got the man himself who confronted the guy who's trying to burn the Quran not knowing that is a book that's supposed to be read, understood and live by and as a guidance for him and the whole world and you actually salaam aleikum. wa Salam o, Allah, he were better katsu. Further, Eddie, the deeds show, Who knew Who knew? For defending the deen of Allah, you'd come to the deen show? That's crazy. That is crazy, you know,
even to bring up that person. It's such a traumatic thing to think about, but Alhamdulillah Alhamdulillah blown me check. I'm so happy to be here. It's such a pleasure. Thank you so much for having me. I really you welcome. nice having you my brother. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks. So we started off with I mean, the Quran verbatim Word of God Almighty sent down for all of mankind. It's a book that if you look at a compiled over 23 years, it's a living miracle embryo and the grant cannot be based on scientific knowledge in the Seventh, Seventh Century.
could not have known these facts about human development in the seventh century, because most of them were not discovered until the 20th century, these facts could only have been revealed to Muhammad, by the one, no one who knows all about us, for anyone who's sincere puts it to the test, not only the scientific miracles, the prophecies, the authenticity is like no other book in the world. And if anyone takes a sincere, humble approach to it, they will see that this is the blueprint for life. Now you got somebody trying to burn the book. And you actually, you went and met with this karate burner? Yes. That's literally, you know, brother Eddie, one of the things that
human beings crave is importance, you know, and how we choose to go about achieving that importance is what defines us and determines our character and how we act upon, you know, look at the life of the prophet Muhammad SAW. So let's look at how he was gained importance and garnered importance. He was known as Sagala mean, he that's what you know, people understood him and knew him as the most honest, most trustworthy, most truthful person there was, okay. This person's nickname is the Quran burner. Like think of look at the look at the difference over here. And it's just so sad because you want to talk sense into a person and you want to talk to them like Hey, okay, look, you don't want
to be a Muslim, no problem. You might not even agree with what the Quran is saying. That's another problem. No worries. But you don't have to hurt or harm someone. You don't got to, you know, make someone feel that way. And the argument on his end is like, I don't care about your feelings. It's feelings, not fat.
Not not it's it's facts, not feelings. But um, like, the fact is that you're hurting someone's feelings. And the Prophet Muhammad SAW some, if anyone could take any type of, you know, advice or guidance or something non Muslim, someone sincere out there is that the Prophet Muhammad SAW said was sent to perfect our manners or character. So the moment you start doing things that are out of character out of manners out of the way that he was sent to teach us how to act, you're doing something wrong Muslim or not Muslim, you're, you're behaving in a manner that's very animalistic. And May Allah guide him, honestly. I mean, we want the best for him for all of mankind. I mean, so
you're there. What was your impression? What was your analyzation of the man there that now people are seeing? He's out there? Obviously provoking Muslims? Definitely. And what what is your take on it when you got to spend some time with it? Is he mentally there is she sounded what he's doing? That's a very reasonable question to ask Eddie. Because when you think about it, right, like only a person diluted, the range would do and behave in a certain manner like that, right? He's a grandpa. And you know, what part of me feels actually very upset and guilty and how I spoke to him to some degree, because he's my elder. And I was conflicted between him, you know, when he would say
something hurtful towards Allah and His Messenger, it you know, it upsets you, you know, but, you know, professionally I'm also a school teacher, you know, not many know that, but I teach in department Education, New York City, Al Hamdulillah. Allah, may Allah accept and, you know, my character is what gives the Dawa, you know, but it's like that student who provokes who, who pokes and pokes and pokes and provokes, and when the other student retaliates out of being finally frustrated, the teacher sees the kid who retaliated, but not the person poking the whole time. And the person was poking the whole time. You see, I didn't do it, this person has quit. So that's what
this guy wants. He wants a reaction from Muslims from people to behave in a violent and angry way. I mean, like I was, I was kind of Loki roasting him. I'm not proud of how I did it, but I just couldn't help myself. But you know, people who will be physically violent with him or something like that, please don't behave that way. That's not how, you know, we don't advocate that. Surely not? Absolutely not. And honestly, we were trying to have an intellectual conversation with him. So going back to the mental state, he seems like he has his beliefs and opinions already. And I don't think it's him. I think it's his teachers. Because when I was asking him parts of hey, you know, where did
you learn this from? He would say, I learned this in the Quran. I learned this from the tough seat. I learned this from you know, the Saheba hottie I said, Listen, bro, like when you are learning something, as a teacher, I can't just give you a book of pre algebra, excuse me, pre algebra, or some type of calculus book and just say good luck. You know, you need a teacher, you need an instructor you need someone to guide you through it to help you. And that's the best of creation. Mohammed is awesome. That's what we understand him to be he taught us he, every verse of Revelation has a time and date and we understand its context. You know, what else could you want? You know what
an amazing teacher so his teachers have corrupted him and the corruption in the heart and may Allah soften his heart and guide him. He's a grandpa you know, I don't want his grandchildren to be seen this being raised on this May Allah guide him seriously? Yeah, what kind of legacy? What are you leaving behind one of hate intolerance? And I'm sure the brothers there probably tried to invite him into the machine into the future Masjid there, let's sit let's talk let's reason together. Absolutely. Absolutely. 1,000% man, and and that's all we want. That's all we want. We want to talk to you like a okay, if you're not about this, what is the issue that you're having with it? Let's
sit down with some of our best scholars. And if I don't know the answer for it, let's get you to help for it. But brother Eddie, if I have to say this just from you know, from my experience with this brother, like we try to see the good at everyone. You know, the Prophet Muhammad SAW Some said that the strongest right like a stronger believer are strong believers better than a weak one, you know, but there's good in both, you know, it would be sad and upsetting of me to look at any human being and just look at them in the eye of the you know, because that's how you give Dawa to anyone and I know you're working on the Dean center and I'm sorry I have to plug it in. I'm sorry for any
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the center, this center is much needed for this area. And the idea of this center is needed for the whole stick because we don't have anything like that in the whole state. That was Sunstar where it's going to basically nurture and basically educate and it's going to basically spread Islam
incredible initiative, by the way, right? revolutionising. And I went there because of Islam net, which is a, you know, amazing organization, who's doing $1 center with their sister project. I mean, I mean, I mean, and it's nothing but love from you guys, as well, too. But you guys are going to be in the south of the United States where there's a ton of Islamophobia, hate misconceptions, like the Dean center will be in the most perfect position microbiotic Allah to give Dawa to America because through Florida and through that area, around the highway and the positioning of it, Allah has just blessed it. So now that I bless that project and other projects as well. That's what we want, we
want to invite him towards Islam. And more than anything, we wanted to, you know, dispel these myths that he has in his mind, because we want him to come to Islam. And if not from the perspective of just being a Muslim, but like, you know, it's not right to have someone's rights stripped away from them, you know, and tell them, Hey, you can't wear the hijab, you can't cover up you can't behave address a specific way, because of your beliefs and values. Tell me this? Yeah, we know this is something that's important. And it's provocative. And do you have any? Because I feel like if pressure was put on him to stop, he'd probably stop is the we don't see much of this. Did you see
the media coming out? The mainstream media to cover this? I mean, and then the reaction from the locals there? How has that been? Like, because we don't we don't hear about this here? Absolutely. Because what happens is, you know, a lot of times when the pressure from the media kicks in. Now some people go, you know, back into their hole. But if you usually see this the hypocrisy of double standards imagine like a Muslim is out there burning the Koran, all mainstream media be covering it. In his home, that'd be so do we see this kind of Muslim was burning a Bible or something like that? Okay, so one thing that we have to remember about Norway, Norway is second generation atheists at
this point, right? And what's really interesting about that, and I didn't understand what that meant, because the brothers that over there and slam that may Allah bless them, explained what, what, what that meant. But when I saw it in action is when I was just like, oh, that's what they mean. So it's the parents. And then they are children have now have children. And they're also atheists, and now they're raising their children upon atheism, right. And the great work that not just what they're doing, but all the Dow organizations in Norway, what they're doing, is that they're giving Dawa, and I like to tell people brother Eddie, and Dr. Seville said this very
beautifully. In the fun in the dinner that we had, right? That, you know, someone asks, How do you give Dawa? How do you just like, do just turn it on? Is there a flick? Is there a button? Like, you know, like, how? The answer is simple enough? Like you don't ask like, how do I be like, you know, a husband every day or son every day? You just are? You know, the best form of Dawa is communicating with people and living that having a one to one experience. And when a person can feel and have that relive that experience that wow, like, my actual interaction with the Muslim has been so positive. Anything that I've ever had has been negative about it, you know? And our goal is to provide that
opportunity for everyone's have. So going back to your question, which I forgot what it was because I went on the media, how was the media so and the culture the people, they're perfect, but are they putting pressure on him? So Norway's second year atheists at this point, right, so they hide behind this idea of freedom of speech law, okay. So there's a law that prevents them from us.
If you didn't switch to when I went there, you know that I, one thing I'm known for that is I get gritty, I asked the tough questions, I go and ask those provoking type of questions to people. So I interviewed cops, and that's gonna be that's also over there as well, too. So you'll see how cops were, and their feelings of it, you know, because some cops are just doing their job. And this person, the Quran burner is technically protected under that law of freedom speech. And I asked them, I said, hey, this person is burning a book, do you not stop him? They said the only way we'll stop him and check this out or that and this is like the, the the important part that everyone needs
to really mind Be mindful of this. And the only way we're going to stop him is if he is harming a tree. If that Quran now is setting fire to a tree, or it's about to harm a building, it's just one of the countries that you have people who deny the Holocaust, or they say anything against you know, a certain group of people, they'll go to jail to get locked up. Uh huh. It's just one of the countries I know many countries in Europe are like that you go to jail for just denying a certain event? Yeah. Subhanallah No, very sad event in history. And you deny it. And now you go to jail. Yeah. So here, it seems like people hide conveniently behind this freedom of speech. Yeah, right.
But we've seen how that go with certain events have happened here. You talk about you get a strike, you get canceled, can't bring up things. But, you know, it seems like it's just a convenient card to play. It looks. And you know what, that's a part of the media representation as well, too. And one thing that excites me about the video that I've posted at this point, is that that video conveys how upset the people of Norway are. They don't like him. Okay, so that's good. That's a good thing. Brother, Eddie, there was a rally against him. That's good. And it was not Muslims to show that we come in new people of Norway. I said, more people need to stand up like that. More people visited
him. Yeah, yes. Definitely. The people of Norway, the youngsters non Muslim. So. So in this video of mine that you see, I'm asking basically, the question is do Norwegians or do not does Norway hate Muslims? And it's the Quran Bernard protest. And let me tell you about that. He does non Muslims there and they are absolutely against what he stands for. Why are you against this then? We respect religion and freedom. Okay. Why are you against it? You're not a Muslim. It's not okay to be like, This.
is stupid. It's not freedom to burn the Koran. Yes. Exactly. And this even cops that were absolutely gets what it says. Fortunately, the law of Norway, he hides behind, right? Like when I asked him very, like, straight up straightforward, because he kept on accusing listeners video of dualism and being so much in your face, we're really being someone behind your back, right? By the law, he's not allowed to say he hates a specific group, right? Because then you're officially you know, Dating Yourself almost in saying that I'm a preacher's and your burden the book, basically. But I know, I know. I know. It's a thin line. It's a very blurry line because then I asked the question, if I
speak about your mother, or something like that, why would that upset you? And we know there's a blurred line of understanding that like, not like there's certain lines you know, crossing you know, someone's getting upset, like just chose to stop teasing, but you could tell he doesn't care. You know, he, when the cameras turned on brother it he becomes a different person. I personally believe he might be possessed. I'm being serious, you know, jinn possessions. There's certain Jinan Shayateen out there that are there to distract, you know, from this authentic, at least about about distracting us from our salah, you know, causing fights between husband and wife, Jen Shayateen have
specialities and there's certain that causes you to drift away and further away and steer you away from Allah subhanaw taala. So I don't put it past anyone you know, share Thien shaitan is over there. But when the cameras turn on Eddie, for that he is just a different person and stuff like that. So the average Norwegian people, they do not like him, they don't stand for him. But the average Norwegian is uneducated about Islam. So yes, they came out to support us for the sake of supporting us, right, because they don't like the fact you know that someone is being harmed. I like that. But they're also not educated because I also further ask him, What do you know about Islam?
What do you know about Islam?
thinks I've learned from school and stuff, and I don't really know what to say. What do you guys know about Islam? Not much, nothing. Much.
What do you know about Islam?
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Hmm. And that's where they would struggle, right? They have Muslim friends by the way they do. But sometimes as Muslim friends might not be on the deen themselves and they they need to understand that they need to educate them and be friends with them. It's an opportunity from Allah and that's why this is really important for this Masjid Islamic Dawa center educational center this slum net what they're doing is it's so important to establish that so these people can get educated and then they're gonna even support more inshallah you got the Bible Giles turn a double Talibs even if they don't accept Islam so because they see really what Islam is about. Tell me this his car actually
flipped in it right
yes, and what was Subhanallah Subhanallah so when we all found out about his car flipping around for that he I want to explain to you like I think that everyone obviously look nobody wants to see anyone get hurt, you know? Yeah, but this dude is such a clown like I'm serious. Like this dude is doing all that it's like if you ever see those YouTube videos I called Instant Karma videos like he his needs to make a special point instant calm Have you ever seen a you know talking about ready to go since he literally needs to be in the next one. So shot me in Chicago revenue is out there. You guys need to plug him in that he's holding burning of Quran and the next one. He is literally in
that same valley. He burned the client in front of the mosque like look how intimidating this person trying to be. He came burn the Quran in front of the mosque. Imagine coming to Geneva with your family which I love and you have beautiful children by the way, but at the end no you don't show them again. I haven't done much eautiful children mashallah Batticaloa, you have one of the greatest masala champs who runs the entire thing and may Allah subhanaw taala grant you strength for your children and make them the quality of your eyes.
And you know, it's a blessing they're a blessing to have 100 Chicken Allah, but man, you go there but your family, you want to go and pray listen to the hook. But you know, me and my children we go to the deli afterwards and you know, across the street from the masjid imagine that's coming out of there. And we see this dude, in a military outfit, man, like, let's be trying to intimidate you with his military truck.
And he has like the Quran. And he's waiting for you to come out. drenched, drenched in kerosene. So it burns better. Look at the premeditated nature of this. Is this freedom of speech? or is this some type of hatred in your heart? It reminds me of when they were trying to burn Ibrahim Al Hassan they said we're not just going to light the oil of the fire. Oh no, we're gonna live for days right just like the fire we're gonna burn the fire for days the same way fan own wanted to burn that the lady and the family and the children in the oil. He didn't just burn them blow the oil. He bought it for days, right? He's He's He's soaking it marinating it like a chicken or turkey on Thanksgiving. This
dude think about him Allah guided
me marinating it and kerosene. And then he brings us soaked up in lights are on fire and you're with your children. My daughter would have to see that your children have to see well they know jujitsu so mashallah vada loved they might die I live to take down yesterday masala vada I'm so I by the end of Zoi masala Monica, you're an excellent teacher, by the way. Thank you. But you know, you don't want to see that you don't want to encounter that. So all of a sudden they come out this dude is burning the Quran and then the people are getting upset at him they're using language as foul obviously because they're upset obviously understandably so. But May Allah forgive them as well. And
they chase them out of there like in like a coward grandpa he just runs away. So while he's running away driving away and all that so set the people decide to tell him a little bit a little GTA action brother Eddie. And then next week you tell this to it. I shouldn't be laughing. This is for love. It is car, like comes off the you know, the the highway and the Instant Karma kicks in and it just flips over. But he's okay. You know, for the most part, Allah gave him another opportunity to soften his heart and accept Islam and to guide him to straight path you know, imagine his platform that he has right now. And imagine if Allah really guided his heart and he accepted Islam Subhan Allah and
he like imagine lives he could change an impact by Allah's permission, you know, imagine but it's surely this that's blind and unless Allah opens it and guides you it will happen and people can take that to the next level if they're Christian or other faith Jewish and imagine coming out of the synagogue you're coming out of the church and you got somebody in front of you doing what you just described, imagine that the reaction How would you feel you know some Muslims are
most not being restrained? You know, you got some of these people you know, would go to Hona level you know what I mean? But Muslims are really showing restraint The shirts are constructed on no violence and stuff. So this is very sad to see hopefully go ahead and one thing but it you know, if this
was happening to a Bible. If this was happening to a Torah, I would be equally as upset. I want to make that clear. And I think you would be as well to enormous sum should be. And let me make we don't condone that. Exactly. Absolutely. And one thing for sure, and this brings up another topic, you know, I don't know, I don't know why these situations always attracted my life. But a year ago from this point, I brother Eddie,
you know, there was right there in downtown Chicago, you know what the bean is, right, downtown Chicago, there's these Hebrew Israelites that are out there, you know, downtown Chicago, and they have like, their whole, like, hate speech stuff going on on the microphones, and that they had their cameras there too. And they have like a bunch of writing on the floor, if you ever call it and come across them, you know what I'm talking about.
And I'm listening to them. And they're going on and on and on. And they had the Bible on the floor. And I saw the Bible on the floor. And I literally, brother Eddie went and objected to that said, Hey, don't put your book on the floor like that. I'm telling the Hebrew Israelites, the book that they love, how it should be respected. Then my eyes go straight towards the Quran on the floor next to it. And I said, Oh, hell no, I'm definitely not going to tolerate this.
So I go and grab the Quran. And upon that, they stamp on my hand stamp on my head. Right? Okay. This what people don't realize, stop on my head. And then now I'm playing with them. I said, Okay, listen, listen, listen, do your Hebrew Israelite thing. You want to tell people say call us Ishmael, all that you want to do. Bismillah Do do do that. But let me take this book off your hands. Don't treat it like this. You want to treat your dog, I take the Bible off. You have to I'll be honest with you. But don't treat this book like that. Right. So what happens is I start ducking and trying to protect it and they start stomping and pushing me off of it. This is downtown Chicago. And this
is where this viral video just goes up for like 40 seconds my phone was dead. I could do helpless by myself against 12 goons. You've seen them travel in packs.
And at this point, they're intimidating me to have the camera from them on me right now. And they're just looking at each other. And they start stomping on the Quran.
This is what they start doing stuff for Allah starts tapping on the ground. And I think when I met you in Ecuador last year, I spoke to you briefly about this maybe as well, too. And I tried to stop that and all that. And they knew that was my trigger this year, cron and flinging across the street. And I get excited why hamdulillah Okay, whatever. I'm picking up the Quran, I got what I wanted, I got the crown off of them. That was enough that came in, they pushed me out, snatched back from me, and did the same thing again, helpless. I felt like the phone to see nothing I could do. Went back actually recently, and they weren't saying anything this time and Hamdulillah. But, you know, we
can't condone this type of behavior. And the reason I share that with you is because of the Bible. We shouldn't condone anything, anything against our Christian brothers and sisters, our Jewish brothers and sisters, if there's some harm against them. That's That's incorrect. Like, for example, brother Eddie, and I'm sorry for being so long winded. But in France, we know this hijab, Ben, we all know that right? I think I think that's pretty common news. Okay, in school, but did you know that they've also banned Sikhs from wearing their turbans? That's right, either. Do you know that they've also banned
a Christian from wearing their cross to represent their faith? That's right, either. You see, when when when Mrs. France advance, in fact, this is what the average person doesn't know. And this is the thing by the end, when we only fight for our own cause, rather than the rights and establishing the law of right and Huck on land, how everyone deserves like in look in Medina, Medina was in that way, you were allowed to represent your own faith. You know, people tried to like, you know, there was Jews, Christians and Muslims living in Medina. Alhamdulillah we allowed you that we can live we're living together, it could be in harmony and hamdulillah but don't oppress us Don't oppress us,
you're banning that he jobs and those things as well to everyone has the right to have expression of their religion. And so what they're doing the Muslims need to be against, not just that, but everyone. injustice to One to One is injustice to all we need to make sure we take care of that. Yeah, absolutely. What was it in short, that had you get to where you are today, that you're so passionate about Islam? You got so many religions out there man made religion? Yes. And, and people get kind of turned away because they're like, they're all the same. And so what convinced you 100% Because you weren't always practicing. And some people can be like, Okay, you were just born in a
Muslim family. But just like myself, you know, I went I looked into all the different religions and Islam without a doubt. You know, if someone's sincere to take an analytical scientific approach, they'll see that this is indeed from the crater all this other stuff is man made. So what did it for you about Islam, that you're here today with us? But Eddie, you know, Allah subhanaw taala has to allow certain things to happen in our lives for us to mature and ripen to where he wants us to be. And when we go through these tests and difficulties, Allah subhanaw taala uses those as opportunities to
refine us as human beings, our character or morals or values and 100 Shukla, you know, I was going through a lot of depression, and sadness and anxiety and I was actually just dealing with a ton of depression. And it was over Subhanallah a horrible relationship that I was in that I had broken up from. And it had broken me down to the core that I went down back to the same lifestyle that I was living to, and it just didn't do it for me anymore. And I knew after trying to commit, you know, harm to myself, one day, I won't say those words might get demonetized or
banned or whatever, but after you know, trying to harm myself, I called out to the Creator, before doing it in the shower, buddy, I was just like, if there is something just take me out of this right and guide me through this whoever whatever, I don't know it. If not, then let this be my last moment right now and I don't want to do this anymore. And I have the sugar Allah mashallah barnacle, I was able to get out of the bathroom. And I knew that there was something bigger, deeper, something beyond something that's metaphysical. And as you could see, I studied multiple religions. This was from the Gita, the Sanskrit, the Hindu scripture, I have some things in Hebrew, I'm not trying to
show sins, but like, you know, I have some things but I was I studied other religions, other faiths, you know,
Buddhism going to him but so you were really searching, I was really searching by the idea. I was really searching boundless permission, I was really searching I was searching for what it was, even though Islam was right under your nose, right under my nose. I experienced everything, because it seems the last thing I thought of because I viewed Islam to be backwards without being full respect, with all due respect, you know, and I think that this is for another podcast, but I arrived to New York from from Pakistan on September 10 2001 hours before 911 So I had I literally was raised in 911. I did not like Islam, i There's a reason I am the way I am right now. And you know, I think
that same for another podcast, I know we have a lot to do. But for in long in Long story short, you know, I knew that there was something else out there and the tranquility, that no other book but the Quran could give me no other book, no other book with it. The Quran was the only book that gave me that tranquility. I tried to serve my desires, I made my knifes as my Lord and brother Eddie, it rejected me. I made these tattoos as my Lord for happiness. It rejected me. I used the drugs the alcohol as a way to it rejected me. I was done. The women it rejected me. I needed something else. I looked, I looked I looked I looked nothing made sense. It was either like some parts made sense. But
then this part was just like, Ah, what's that all about? And then the effect that I had on my heart, it didn't do anything. But when I finally by Allah's permission, stumbled upon the Quran, I just found myself getting lost in the Quran, I downloaded the app, the English Quran. And you know how like your phone times out after a certain time when it's idle, like you'd have to like four minutes, five minutes whenever I would read the Quran. And I would just get stuck on one verse in English, of course, because I didn't speak Arabic, I would get stuck on one verse. And I would just space out days I'd be on a prayer mat, and just like trying to figure it out. And when I look at it, my phone
would just be blank and dark. And I would just find myself contemplating about what this book is trying to say to me. It was communicated to me brother Eddie, and by Allah's permission, Alhamdulillah I was able to understand that message and Allah so once I got in my heart and short, I know, he said short, but that was a very long response. I'm sorry about that. So you want to put me in a chokehold on a journey? Yeah. You went on a journey? Yeah. And I found this over the years of interviewing people who have come to Islam submission to the Creator, not the creation of suit Islam means to submit your will to one and only one guy to say, My Jesus Yeah, and I do this often I
stopped because you got a lot of Christians watching or people of other faiths and atheists whatever who've left maybe Christianity become atheists because they saw contradiction in the manmade religions and whatnot. So Islam being for all of mankind, beautiful, complete way of life. People will go all around the world and test out all the different religions and then they'll end up coming to Islam last because of maybe the stereotype misconception is like you even if you've been born in a Muslim family, thinking there's probably a lot of Muslims out there right now that almost you know Islam is backwards, definitely. So now what happens you finally come back to Islam. So would you say
you let I mean everyone is born on the fifth era, you know, as a child, so would you say that you end up you? I mean, you left this no definitely with every without shot and I that pains me to say this because without Assam I wouldn't be here. I mean, it's only because of Islam and spreading the deen of Allah and protecting the deen of Allah that I'm even granted such a blessing opportunity and everything like that to be with you and amongst a crowd of such beautiful people, my Shabbat Akula but I mean, I was in Islam and me like a obviously I'm Pakistani my descent. And um, you know, some was not in my household. I grew up in a very
troublesome household brother ID and again, this is probably for another time, but just a ton of abuse. And just a ton of just it's just, it was just tough, you know. But when I came to New York and September 11, and I looked different, and I'm a 12 year old, and I want what any other 12 year old wants, you know, and I'm being treated differently, I'm being looked at differently, I'm being spoken to differently and being you don't make fun of differently and being bullied differently. I wanted to get as far as away as I could from that. I mean, that's understandable for anyone. But in that process, I got away from my identity myself, who I was because I didn't know who I was, it's a
very impressionable time in my life. And I wanted nothing to do with Islam. I wanted nothing to do with
my mom because she would even wear should the traditional Shabbat kameez the backs and clothes that look close enough to Islam, I wanted nothing to do with that, you know, I did my best to look as Puerto Rican as Dominican, as Mexican as, as someone else has I possibly could. I wanted nothing to do with I wanted to be myself. And, you know, it was just a stigma that carried over with me for a while for a while for a while until
I got to college, when University and when I went to university, it just got out of control. Because I didn't have a character building time, I didn't have the foundations of Islam, the tarbiyah that a child should have, a child should have, your child should go to Islamic school and mosque and we can school or as much as you could afford as much as you could do a Holika program, the youth programs. And that's what the dean said he's going to do, I'm so excited for that too. And find the local matches. And if the massage it's not doing those programs, run those programs. Now. I run a program in Queens as well too. So if anyone's ever in Queens, I'm watching you from there, pull up, we want
to save the children. We don't want your child, the mom calling the Imam. My child has become an atheist and left Islam. It didn't happen overnight. Where were the telltale signs? Were you reading the red flags? Are you watching what they're doing? I'm a parent, your parent, you know, you know we need to set these programs up preventative measures and proactive and teach them how to be of the children. I didn't have that. And I didn't have that that identity that anchoring identity. So I grew up not knowing who I was. And I wanted to be someone I was not my prophet. I was a biller, and I say this, you know, with the most, you know, stuff that I love, but it was Kanye West. That was my
vision Chicago, you know, Kanye West, so I'll cut Yeah, that was my that was my messenger. You know, Kanye West. Kanye West. I have to every word you were idolizing Kanye West idolize exact even the word I believed. I thought I was him. I Rijkaard it. I loved Kanye West, man. Like his words were hips on my tongue. Why? Why do you think Kanye West right now is wearing a mask over his head? Have you seen that? Oh, yeah, I did. What do you think's going on with Kanye? You see I phase about getting canceled? Now everybody? Can I be honest with you? What are they can I be honest with you about that? If I'm being honest about Kanye, and I've made a ton of dough off for him as well, too.
And even when I was a little guy, I mean, I mean, I mean, because it can happen as well, too. I mean, you know, not to go into his musical biography of discography, but I've been listening to him since the original time, and his music has evolved. And I was obsessed with music as any teenager would. And parents out there, your children listen to music, you have someone else preaching to them, too. And this is what you don't realize parents, you know, like, you're giving them the gospel as they would say, you know, and someone else given gospel, and Kanye was giving me that gospel, his, his albums were the books for everyone, not just me, but many, many children, you know, his, he
would hide behind from an earlier time, look at his ego, his characteristics, right? He would hide behind the persona of looking good and dressing good. But the truth was that he was just insecure on the inside. And he has even songs talking about it, you know, talking about his insecurities, how he can't even go to the grocery store without some clean sneakers and stuff like that, because he's so self conscious about his image, you know, now, you have an identity crisis at a young age. You're not given that. And he's growing up in Chicago with so many difficulties, right. Fathers grew up in Chicago. Absolutely. Yes. Chicago shuts down. Yes, yes, yes. Southside Chicago, oh, I didn't know
that. I'm not mistaken. Yes, his mom and everything like that, too. And so again, I know pretty much about it. And he had a troublesome childhood. So again, you know, his idols were who the rappers, the dope boys and everything like that, that's on his block, you know, that he sees in, you know, in Southside Chicago or whatever, wherever he's going up, you know, he sees that in the culture and the rap and the music that he listens to as well. So, now his second album comes out, he has a little bit more clout and everything like that, he becomes even more insecure with themselves, his god complex starts coming out a little bit more, you know, start shouting out using his voice a little
bit more as well too, but there's no guidance. You know, there's no Quran there's no foundation, there's no remembrance of Allah. There's no sound foundation of what a man is, how a person should be, you know, which is the best example in the Prophet Muhammad SAW sent him and if he you know, someone who is sincere and I implore and Kanye to explore this, if he's sincere about, you know, walking in the path of Jesus
Christ peace and blessings be upon him. Well then follow Jesus's path. Pray like Jesus has prayed in the garden, you 70 Kanye, pray like him, right? Bow your head to the ground right? Call out to the Father alone and acknowledge that you can't do anything about God Almighty himself. So go to those things so third album comes out more fame, more success, you know height and in his career approaching the pinnacle of his career still has that God complexes coming out more to and then boom, his mother passes away. Probably the only thing that was keeping him saying he has a pornography addiction. People don't know this. A lot of people don't know this. Pecan he has a
pornography addiction, right? Or at least had one I don't know. May Allah help him in this story? People doing pornography addictions? It's such a dangerous thing. Yes, it's a scary thing. You know, it's been able to help us all get out of those things, man I've been, I've overcome those challenges myself. So I know what it's like, man. But he has no anchor, no parents, who was his anchor, you know, now his songs start talking more about things that are of the dunya. He talks about his song how he had a dream, he could buy his way to heaven. But he ended up spending it on a necklace. He's chosen the dunya over the deen. He's saying it in his lyrics. And I'm growing up with that, too. So
I'm choosing the dinner over my dean as well to start dressing nicer. So risen up more chicks and girls and stuff like that, too, you know, because I'm trying to be like him, trying to dress like him being fashionable like him. And I'm trying to take his personality because I don't have a personality of my own. Right. I'm someone who just follows the trends and I'm a follower. I'm a follower. I'm not. So what happens now his mom passes away, David spiraled, depression, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, right, doesn't get the help he needs. And people who have mental health issues are approached about talent issues. Mental health is a concept that's coming out now. He had these
issues from before but never got diagnosed or get help. So now you have the traumatic event of your mother, you don't have that anchor, you start going into dunya more he starts dating the wrong people. This girl and I don't want to go into this thing, but you know, but the thing is, is he's now gone that path. He's experienced the dunya he's at the height of the dunya he's had it all. It didn't give him the happiness still not happy. Still not happy here has the top number one selling sneaker in the world. brother Eddie the world. People line up for him. In his music. He called that a seance. He said that the mother was a seance. You see when a person dives into the occult and does
the gin and shayateen and magic and goes into those types of rituals. And they were godly before and they were Christian before and they were someone of spirituality before they come out different people because they know they've seen the ugly side. They seen the devilish side they seen the demonic side they seen what they want him to do. Let's see what they said to you need music needs to be about he had one of his most vulgar and filthiest albums ever called My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy. Listen to the name of it. My beautiful dark, twisted fantasy. The cover of that album brother Eddie, is him having sexual relationship with a Shayateen with the jinn. This is Kanye West.
This is Kanye West is first. His fourth studio album, its fifth studio album excuse me, Kanye is having a relation with the with the gin with the bliss with this Yes, yes. A winged animal in a female form. Are you doing that? Because this is a part of the ritual occultic thing that he was into, but he's supposed to be a Christian Christian. Yes. So when you go down that path for what success more fame or money which he achieved?
Didn't give him the happiness right? So now you realize you got to come back to God. So later on he goes to an album calling it eases believing he is God now. So you go through this thing, you're deluded, your mental health is kicking in, you're not right anymore. You're off your pills, you should have been on medication, you needed help, your soul is getting lost. That's what they say selling your soul right? He said in the lyric. I sold my soul to the devil. He said it. Kanye said I sold my soul to the devil. I know it was a crappy deal. But at least it came with the few toys like a happy meal. He sold the soul for the dunya now you sell yourself with the dunya you realize it's
not what it was and you want to come back to Christ and Christian now that and now it's a facade and Allah is making it an example of you as well. So now obviously it's his test right? But the things that he's been saying is out of control, you know, because that thing that he's talking about and all that bro like you know like we shouldn't implore any type of things he's saying that such and such person is a good person I support you know, not suffered a lot like what are you talking about? Man you've lost it right? So he's lost it and he has no run like fit own right fit own didn't want yes men that Sudha I believe me noon right of that one believer who was in the camp of her own who
opposed him and said, you know why giving them a suggestion? Why do you got to harm someone? Because he's saying that he believes in Allah and worship nothing but Allah. Why do you got to harm someone, right? So he went down this occultic path unfortunately, it's obvious
In this music, he comes out of it. It wasn't what he wanted to do that he's realizing it's all a setup, he's off his medications, the mental health, all things. He's married into a witch at some degree, and and I mean, and he's doing all this cultic Masonic practices and all these things as well to stuff that Allah He realized it's not what it's meant to be. So guess what happens? He gets out. And he's not the same anymore trauma post traumatic from what he's seen the world and now he's promoting Christianity, I think. And now he's saying he's a Hebrew, I think, and he's trying to but he has respect for his time and hamdulillah but insha Allah May Allah guide him. I mean, really,
it's not what we should carry on the show. We need to talk about Jay Kanye needs Islam. And I think I think the perfect example of someone that which I'm very, very proud of you guys is when you had brother agitate, mashallah Baraka look how Allah guides a heart, you know, agitate I find him to be one of the more sincere supporters out there mashallah Bata, Colombia, Allah bless him and increase him. And you know, obviously, he's rough around the edges we all are, especially in the beginning, imagine any revert who is, but he needs help. He needs good surrounding brothers. He doesn't need Yes, men, he needs people who will check him we need we all do, right? In the form of a spouse in
the form of of best friend in form of a buddy and form of the people in the case. That's a good point, Andrew, take needs. Not Yes, man. But check, man check. That's it. Because, you know, some people who love him for it, you know, and not just anybody, just like, you know, good people with wisdom.
Wisdom is so important, you know, but it's also important for him to have that type of circle, because he's the type he'll check people. So yeah, and he deserves to be checked. We all know one is immune to say, he says, Look, we should stick to the Word of God, I'm sure go ahead and do so you don't like people start changing the religion.
He starts learning more he start implementing more leaving off, you know, a lot of these vices alcoholic? Absolutely. Look, look, once again, we've been through the worst of it, brother it we know what it is, you know, like, it's tough to leave a lifestyle, right. And Islam is a lifestyle and whatever conflicts and contradicts with Islam, it's not going to stick, you know. And I think that one thing that Islam did for me is that after I had started reading the Quran, and came back to Islam, when I would do a quote unquote, sin something haram before when I did it, I would just do it, and I would not feel guilty. But now when I did it, it felt wrong. And who knows, but the
entertainer is feeling the wrongs of what he might do now. And may Allah continue to open his heart. I mean, look at us, we shouldn't be judging anyone at all. Allah knows what we do behind private doors, and behind private screens, you know, so we're not one of the wiser and we have no right to tell over but we can make dua for people. And we can ask Allah to use him to help more people and to spread the deen and to complete the favor upon him upon you, brother Eddie, upon me upon everyone out there, everyone watching everyone listening, may Allah complete the favor upon everyone because we need Allah's mercy. Because without it, we won't be successful in this dunya and we damn sure
will be successful in the hereafter. So just touching upon Kanye West, he ends up on Alex Jones Show you heard Alex Jones, of course. So he's on the Alex Jones Show. And we want Alex Jones to also get some true exposure to Islam. And I think he needs to he's clapping you guys need to Yeah, because he's also going through some problems with alcohol. And you see these people kind of deteriorate in front of your eyes. But Islam is the antidote for all of those problems, everything and you're a living testament. I'm a living testimony. And why wouldn't brother Alex Jones be dealing with alcohol? And let me say right, he got canceled. He got charges against him. He got court case and
fees. I mean, look, May Allah help everyone but I know people who are going through like court cases with divorces, and may Allah grant everyone's marriage to find goodness and and protect us all from divorce. But some people are, and they're going through nasty divorces, and they're being dragged to court. They're paying 1000s of dollars, brother Eddie 1000s of dollars. For divorce case, you're telling me about a case like that he didn't come out. And plus they're dragging your name. And plus you were at the height of your thing. And this is in the sea high in advice and Tao for brother Alex Jones, that Allah subhanho wa Taala when he gave to you, he was testing you, testing your
appreciation, testing what you were going to do with this platform. Now when he took it away from you. He was testing you. Are you going to be grateful? Are you going to have suburb? Are you going to turn back to him? These are all ways and opportunities for us to turn back to Allah. But unfortunately shaytaan say into his West what's besides whispers comes in terms of towards vices, to lean heavier into the pills and to the alcohol. I used to take pills. May Allah protect us. I know what opioids are like, I know the vibe in the vise and how it feels to just sink in that lazy boy. I know. It feels nice to forget you pause for a few hours go to sleep wake up. Deal with it later on.
I know what it's like. And Alex Jones is no different as well. He's turning to us alcohol May Allah help him. May Allah help him and then eventually your body needs it and craves it and wants it. I'm a school teacher told you and hubzilla Marcia baccala this kids vaping is a huge epidemic huge amongst Muslims as well. People, children
and youth okay vaping vaping big problem. Okay, so in school kids get caught with vapes. I teach in a middle school in New York they usually have metal detectors. I don't know if you guys are is that weird for you guys, but we have metal detectors in our schools, but not in middle schools only in high schools hamdulillah so they were able to bring the vape so they would get caught in the boys bathroom or even the girls bathroom like girls getting caught vaping boys getting caught vaping and all that sort of stuff, right? And people were laughing putting on tick tock and all jokes, right? But then they get in trouble suspended and all that stuff. But the truth of the matter is they're
physiologically and biochemically now becoming addicted to that nicotine and caffeine and chemical in the vape and the oil and all that sorts of Yeah, it's funny to do it in the boys bathroom and the girls bathroom, but they physically need it. They need it. Otherwise they're gonna get a headache. Otherwise, you're tapping the I need to smoke right? So they'll go can I go to the bathroom? Mister, can I go to the bathroom? This is the symbol in ASL for a bathroom right? Yeah, right you pass you go there for extra three minutes because taking a vape and then we're getting a find out that you're taking so you know like people have these vices so alcohol is you know different than alcohol stay
away from it. May Allah help you turn bow your head, Alex Jones to the Creator. That was actually the Creator turned to him. You want a quick number two down to the Creator. It's called tu tu tu I heard this this amazing raising.
Reference right? To sincere tears just tears coming down from your cheeks right? Wake up in the middle of the night. 2am right. retour Erica Tuukka Tanaka, you're dealing with problems. Your problems worse that your problems are being solved. Wake up break your sleep up for it. Allah is testing you how bad you want to wake up. You won't get out that depression that sadness that anxiety. Me. Wake up break your sleep up two hours 2pm 2am In the morning, break up tahajjud wake up to occur fresh Madhu, fresh. Well, do you know since you've been off and you brother Eddie 2am Wake up to the cast sincerity. Cry to Allah to sincere tears. But Eddie, tell me that one light in your
heart. Tell me that will lay your heart. Alex Jones. I implore you, you don't even need to know the words. By your head. The words will come you will speak from your heart my brother. He will speak from the heart and hamdulillahi rabbil aalameen. All Praise and thanks is due to Allah, the Lord of All the Worlds of manda Rahim. He is a man to you. He is merciful to you. You don't even worship him. You don't even obey him yet. He's provided for you. He's mad. But you bow your head to him. He's Elohim to you. He's Rahim to you because you're a believer. You get an extra mercy. He's a Rahim. So brother Alex Jones you're missing out. Brother Kanye West you're missing out. You've lost
your minds because you've sweat a che the GPS away from the remet of Allah. And when you forget about Allah, He causes you forget yourself. So Kanye, you forgot yourself. You put a mask on yourself because you can't stand to look in the mirror anymore. Wow, that's deep. You put a mask I mean, over his face, we all wear him so he might as well just put them on. Yeah. And the skew somehow is that and you can't help because you got to check your email and all this news is popping up and then you try to see what's going on. So you can go ahead and give some advice to other people who are really like you absolutely in a state of idolizing people like this. And they could see like
the dead end that it hits like a hit with you until you ended up really turning your life around. And there's other rappers that people are realizing there's a Kanye West or someone else right? Whether that's for girls, it's the new ice spice rapper right? That you know in the boys wants to be like a half someone like her and the girls want to be low thought he's like her right? Or the male rappers who are teaching the boys to disrespect women and to kill people and do these dances where they're stabbing the stomach and the drill music they're stabbing people and they're making songs about this brother Eddie right DRUM MUSIC right over here old block what are they saying right
killing people music right dollar
right now right here new in Chicago right here in Chicago. Oh block right over here where they have beef with 63rd Street or someone whoever it is right? A person King Vaughn getting killed. I believe he was Muslim to Allah have mercy on him if that's true, right, getting killed, they make music about you about your stabbing. Yes. So there is a new thing and the fitness are getting worse because we're coming towards the end of times. It's in the Disney cartoons with the LGBT, it's everywhere. And it's our responsibility to help the Ummah so what we're doing is that exactly thing so with our platforms and everything that we do shake what we hope are the ideas that we can
influence people with my our children's YouTube channel with me my daughter's if you ever seen our videos, or if you ever seen one of our videos before and child lovey, we make our videos me my daughter Hamdulillah. And our goal is to just make family friendly content that everyone can enjoy and appreciate, you know, and to help the Alex Jones of the world and help the contours of the worlds but to help that Hadiya of the world get her at Sonic identity
You know, to help that Abdullah be proud to say Abdullah and not Abdul Abdullah to say Mohammed and Muhammad Mo. I want you to feel proud of your name, proud of who you are proud of being named Khalid, know who he is. I want to help by Allah's permission by Allah's permission. Just give immense love to everyone in the world, the OMA helped the Ummah come together help the Ummah to save the Ummah to help build the deen center to help build that center Norway to help Allah guide that Quran burner to help you know guide can you met whoever whoever needs the help we're here we're open entertained by legit we're here to help you whatever you need, right? You we're here to help him
whatever he needs. We're here to help anyone stop making differences stop thinking that there's rivals between people stop the YouTube beef and now Muslims have become petty I don't know if you ever seen that brother Eddie. So many Muslims have become petty now putting each other's names in the videos like we're rappers now. And you know I'm calling out such and such person and now they're gonna make a video about me calling me out and we're just climbing the ladder up using hate and propaganda and and you know false silly beef and what is that? Is that how you want to grow that you want to how you want to get subscribers? Is that Is that like a sub for Allah? Like no, is that
where the form of the see when we do that? We need to put our powers together look at this mashallah welcome. I just have to say this I know you don't like complimenting yourself and hearing this but you got to just please listen, buddy. Islam that is not a sponsor of this. They are a organization in Norway yet you had no problem speaking about them and saying the good work about them. That shows Georgia qualities and character mashella Byculla and this is why I know the Dean center will be done because your sincerity is what impresses me so much mashallah, and that's what excited me when I first started watching you back in like 2013 or something like that. So just thank you for
everything that you do but Eddie seriously May Allah reward you and accept from you and just continue to use you as healthcare God for this Omar Amin. Thank you, brother. So before we wrap up, tell us you have to zamzam boys what systems and boys I'm glad you asked me Mashallah. watercolour. Thank you. So let's Oh sure. So thank you. Thank you. Thank you. So basically this is a part of our merchandise line right now. Alhamdulillah, Masha, Allah like, I want to be someone who gives back to the Ummah by Allah's permission and you know a lot of the videos that people know me for my illustration is like you know giving away an iPad quizzing strangers my son for an iPad or quizzing
Muslims by sign for an iPad right and we have a new video coming out in sha Allah called asking Medina university students this question for a MacBook so we're going to give students of knowledge Medina university students a brand new MacBook so that they can like learn a little bit obviously like have a better like technology to use to seek more knowledge and just help them out and ask them really cool questions about Islam to test their knowledge but that requires money MacBooks are expensive you have a beautiful set you know how it is so what happens right now is that I take a lot of people don't know this right because you know, they might think that all YouTubers make money
this and that it's actually not true for example aren't our rates are really low because we have the subject that we talk about right so it's not like typical YouTuber numbers. But the way a lot of us earn is to brand deals and AdSense but specific brand deals so what I've done is that I don't eat I don't take anything brother ID for my brand do what I do is that I take that money and recycle it back into the videos right? So Alhamdulillah I could do that by Allah's permission, he's allowed me to do that. So the thing is that when I get a sponsorship, I put it back into video I'm able to buy a MacBook or an iPad or something like that, but it's getting expensive and the things that we want
to do brother Eddie require a lot more money right? We want to help do math at a higher level right so this is one video in sha Allah by Allah permission we filming it's called knocking on Muslims doors and paying the rent so we're gonna go to like a Muslim predominant area that might be struggling or something like that just knock on their doors and just pay their rent and inshallah so that requires money. So what we're doing is that we're selling the T shirts and people can go to shop sons and boys.com and order a shirt when you order a shirt which is pretty fired like you like it right materials fantastic has like a little cool like no logo on the side is what's happening you
can see it's very street trendy, you know great material. When you order this 100% of the profits goes back into reinvested into the dollar so we get to make cooler videos you know and more videos for the youth and just fun like Masha Baraka love what excited me was knowing that your children loved my videos, they watch my videos which is pretty pretty cool. And to know that I have a demographic that are very very young excites me mashallah Baraka Allah so I want to make videos for them to help reestablish their Islamic identity and strengthen their Islamic identity and I just want to make amazing videos with no budget you know, and I know by selling this merchandise and my
last permission, but unless permission by Allah's permission because he's not shy of any means. When you guys buy this merchandise, it will help support the channel, which is what this would do. So anyone interested in the short please shout something Boy Scout comm I'm sure will be link in description as well. So thank you for that. You're welcome. Thank you brother for
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