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Mr Bismillah Alhamdulillah wa salam aleikum Greenpeace Welcome to the deen show media hosts we have a lot to talk about today fitness, nutrition being a high value man and masculine excellence purpose all of this and more here with my next guest not one but two. We got Munir and Seine
and his final messengers Muhammad peace be upon him this is our religion Islam Miss Love this sister dijo.
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Nice to have you brothers with us. So tell us a little bit about yourselves what you guys do, I kind of hit some topics that we're going to be discussing kind of giving people a hint fitness, masculine excellence, purpose, nutrition, weight loss, all of these things. So if you want to start from right to left, absolutely, inshallah so my name is Munia fitness coach and I handle I've been doing this for a long time almost 10 years now, specializing in weight loss with Muslims specifically. So alhamdulillah I've had the opportunity to help a lot of Muslims online through the modern Muslim man, which is a company I started fairly recently actually, in my journey, so humble, it's been a
pleasure since January 2022. To serve the Ummah And Alhamdulillah I appreciate the opportunity to share with more of the Ummah today, my name is Christine born and raised in Algeria, moved to the United States about 11 years ago. And hamdulillah my, my journey has been more like entrepreneurship wise, came to the United States started as washing dishes, and slowly and surely grow into bodybuilding and fitness as well used to be a coach in the gym, and then delve into a little bit more content creation, marketing, and then branding, and then learned a lot more about building the businesses and the back end systems, software and all that now it hamdulillah run a supplement
company also a fitness and slash masculine products we have, and also software company. So that's kind of like my journey in terms of what I do and what I what I work. What's the state of the the community of analyzing, I mean, statistically, they say that 70% of just Americans in general, either obese or overweight. And we're not far from that. We're not far from that at all unfortunately and that's the thing is as Muslims we have a lot of narrations from the Prophet peace be upon him and that should teach us to know better so inshallah we're going to share some of those today. But yeah, we're right about the same about 70% of Muslims are obese, and it's unfortunate how
it affects a lot of them. So inshallah we'll dive into that today. But yeah, there's a lot of Muslims are struggling with this. So with the right education, the right motivation, and just following the example of our Prophet salallahu Alaihe Salam should make a very big differences for Allah. There's actually a hadith on this is that one of the diff that you share, it's a it's a prophecy, if you I mean, there's so many different proofs and evidences for the Prophet of the Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him the authenticity, the miracles, the signs in the car.
On. And since we're talking about nutrition now and health and all these other things we'll be touching upon. We mentioned the word obesity, then the Prophet saw some you know about this predict that
obesity will be rapid. Yeah, there was one of the concerns of the Prophet sallallahu wasallam is the fact that a lot of people would not be able to resist the temptations of their stomach. And then obviously what that leads to when it comes to your ability to resist temptations and other areas, especially with our deen, which is the most important thing to us is making sure that we're not transgressing against God. So that's that's one of the different narrations there's also the Hadith, which is, you know, sufficient is a few morsels of food for the son of Adam to straighten his back and if he must fill himself 1/3 for food 1/3 for water and 1/3 to save room for his breath. But
unfortunately, a lot of us overstuff ourselves for past that point, and that's a big reason why we as Muslims have an obesity problem and why the whole world even outside of the Muslim ummah has an obesity problem. But we as Muslims, if we just follow that one Hadith, it would make so much difference when it comes to bringing down those rates of obesity, heart disease, cholesterol, you know, all the different diabetes, all the different sort of epidemics that we have in our community. It really annoys me when I'm when I walk into an event that a masjid and you'll literally you'll see doctors sitting across from each other at a table and there's Pepsi, Coca Cola. Yes. I said, Man,
what's going on? You guys finished medical school? Yeah, but lack of following their own advice is, is astonishing. And I think one of the things too, is, we'll get into the world where everything is, everything is provided to us at the click of a button, but also more so than anything, become more consumers. And actually, then we produce things and we don't wait for things to grow organically, we rush things and we exhaust the minerals and the vitamins out of the soil. Right. And we continuously providing this chains across the water, the country, that they're providing high processed sugar, and they are carbohydrates. And then we have unhealthy fats, C's oil, we have things that will cause
inflammation in the body. And if we know anything about inflammation, it will increase your cortisol levels, it will hinder your testosterone production per se for men, and also it will increase massively the amount of estrogen in women. So then you have a man looking more like a woman in a sense, because then you're storing visceral fat in your abdominal region. And then you have where they call them love handles. I don't think they are any, anything closer to that. But you walk you walk into the masjid And subhanAllah we were supposed to emulate the Prophet salallahu Salam. And in one of the description of his body, his chest and his belly, they were in line, even at a later age.
So and they were they took on Wrestling they took on.
They were warriors, they were in wars, they eat in moderation. And even through his life SallAllahu wasallam he provided us even with the best foods, the remedies for things and even in the Quran, right for example, we take the dates of the story of the Sydenham Mariam, when she gave birth to our beloved Prophet Jesus. And Allah asked her to tap on the palm tree. So to scatter Top and right he has dates come down, and you understand the value of dates and the the powerhouse of vitamins and minerals that they have. And even our prophets Allah seldom used to eat, it's called a super day in the two blacks, right, the water and the day, so you can solely survive on those. So if we come
closer into stand the nutrition from prophetic way, I think we have so much more value also staying active. We have Muslim brothers, they just go home, they are absolutely because of the diet. And the mindset, I think primarily to is that they go home, they are exhausted, they have a better to the bar with their family, bad attitude about life, and they just don't seem to inspire even their kids. Their kids became more infatuated by different different role models, per se, you get your son calling, let's say Batman or Superman superhero, when in reality you supposed to call your dad's superhero. And then your dad supposed to emulate the profits of those element, the Sahaba those are
supposed to be our role models in every shape and form. But we have even today adults running after let's say, motivational speakers who while they are not Muslims, per se, and I think we should cipher the information that they give us and take the good but I wouldn't put them in on a pedestal to think that they are actually better. And intuitively if you follow someone and they actually captivate you emotionally and maybe even your mind, I think you put them above someone who you shouldn't Oh prophesize and them should be on the top list of the people that we should study and we should understand. So how important is it I mean when I when that
fact came to me that it is
not to pick on doctors we know, you know, we love our brothers and community members who are out there serving in this area. But it's all about growth. You know, you have a lot of medical doctors who didn't learn nutrition in medical school. That's just a fact. But then they grow, and they get inspired to learn more. And then they end up opening up a whole new world, right. And they realize the importance now with Food plays, because this is something that they really don't connect a lot of times, they just, you know, prescribe the next draw or whatnot. Just masking the symptoms. Yes. So how important is it? And back to what I was saying what it really bothers me because this is
something that is contributing to mental health, the obesity, heart disease, all these chronic diseases, they say 95% of chronic diseases are linked back to the for the food, the fake foods, people are reporting choices. Yeah. So how important how important is this, that we get this out of the massages, we get this out of our fridge, we get all of these fake processed foods. And I just say fake food is
our foods with a list of ingredients. You need a biology degree chemistry your GI, they read it and even read right? So how important is this when you just really hit home? Even more important and working out and all this other stuff? Is the food that we put in our to fuel our bodies, this gift that the Creator has given us? Yes, there is actually a saying that says you can never be able to outrun a bad diet no matter how much exercise you do. And that again, you would never be able to outrun a bad diet no matter what you do. As a lot of people who think because they worked out, they go home and be like, yeah, soda is fine. And then they will be like, Yeah, I don't I just find
because it's going to spike my insulin perhaps. And then you will shove in all the nutrients that I need. But in reality, it's more about the nutrient dense food. And that's what we need. We need to focus on eating nutrient dense foods like beef, you got lamb, you got vegetables, and specifically the things that doesn't bloat you. And it doesn't hinder your absorption for these nutrients. And a lot of people even in the fitness world, and in general, everyone thinks in a perspective of macronutrients, and we talk about macronutrients talking about protein, carbohydrates, and fats. And for us to really understand and digest this concept, or the nutritional topic is that we need to
understand the divide into two categories. That is one is energy sources, fats and carbohydrates are energy sources. And then carbohydrate. Protein is a building block for muscle tissue, and for even organs and cartilage, right. So we need that, in particular moreso than we need the other things. But in order to survive and have a healthy function of the brain, the regulation of hormones, and all this systems to thrive, we need all these things, but also we need magnesium, we need potassium, we need zinc, with all these vitamins and minerals that they replenish and help the neural transmission of information, it helps with the function of also organs, the hearts and even the
produce production of hormones as well. And I think that's why nutrition is a big topic when you go to a doctor, he's so adamant and quick to write you down a pill. Well, I that's kinda like the process of as you said, masking the symptoms, but they would never address the root that's even go to injuries to that's a different topic, right? But if we say in the topic of nutrition, they will prescribe you a pill, or they will tell you to maybe ease on something, but they would never for example, smoking or they will never ask you what would be your diet for a month or what do you eat, they would never customize you like diet, they will never tell you too fast. Right? As Muslims you
fast Mondays and Thursdays is is a sunnah from our Prophet sallallahu sallam. So that in itself will help your digestive system, it will eliminate bloating, it will actually improve your cognitive abilities. It will help get rid of toxins and bad cells in your body. And now non Muslims are actually catching up to it or intermittent fasting. And then they do also six hours 16 hours fast and then they see the benefits. But for us, we do that once a year too. We do 30 days, right? We flush everything out and Subhanallah it's really rejuvenating. Yes, you feel the new men we have Ramadan, right, the three days of fasting and it's an amazing but still people ruin it and night
they will go and they will indulge into desserts. They are deep fried high sugar and my brother Munir can actually talk more about it because, you know, he got some brothers on his plans and stuff and you're always coming up with healthy diets and desserts and stuff like that, which is really interesting. It's not about I mean, because there's a difference when people understand like there's a difference between the sugar and the date because it comes with
fiber and it comes from Allah the Creator made it it comes and goes to the body doesn't destroy the body. But we're talking about this, this sugar now that the processed sugar that's pumped into over half a million fake food items that are out there, it's destroying wreaking havoc on the body, and you're giving it to the kids
and also at the events and I've had some success where people were like, Okay, we started to like eliminate this stuff and wash your program. So hopefully inshallah this can be a catalyst for others, because they don't I mean, just ignorance you just don't know. And if they listen to some health experts, and you can see like, hold on, man, this is really, because when I, Myself I saw the harm that it was doing to my body sugar at once I cut that out, weight loss actually started to become pretty easy. And also health, inflammation, the body and all the other things you just you start to reap many benefits. What do you have to say about the sugar? Absolutely, absolutely. So
unfortunately, sugar is something that has infected a lot of our culture obviously it's not from our religion, but a lot of times people conflate religion and culture so in Pakistani culture, a lot of sugar in the tea and the coffee all my stuff. Same thing with with Arab culture, you know, you'll see them just put like so much sugar in the tea. So I haven't necessarily like at that point doesn't even taste good. I don't know what's the daily allowance they say even have you seen where they've shown in Coca Cola? And you'll see what is it for one gram it's like four teaspoons of sugar What is it something like that? So I mean, each each tablespoon of sugar I believe I mean it's it's it's the
quality of the sugar as well because as you mentioned before, it's the you know, inflammation everything else I'd have to check the exact amount in each table it's way but whatever. It's way above what health is it's and so one very simple substitute that we can use like for somebody who's just addicted they have to have something sweet with their tea. Just replace it with honey, honey, guess what, in the far end and in the Sunnah. We know that honey is a medicinal food that is beneficial for us obviously. Do you like real local honey real raw on? Yes, not with honey. Exactly. Not like this fake honey. That's basically just syrup that tastes like honey but just proper, like,
you know natural honey. Yeah, that's what we want. And that will make such a big difference. What about coconut coconut palm sugar? What do you think about that? coconut palm sugar could be potentially beneficial. It's definitely better than like just refined sugar like that white table sugar. Stevia could be good. Yes. You know, in fact, a lot of brother Hussein's products are sweetened with stevia. So it's very helpful. For there are there are good substitutes there are there and the advantage of stevia is it doesn't have calories. So for somebody who's trying to actively lose weight, it helps them to actually bring their calories down and get into a calorie
deficit. The other downside with sugar when it comes to creating a calorie deficit is not only to increase your calories, but it also will cause you to crash your energy and then when your blood sugar crashes and your energy crashes, you're going to move around less burn less calories and get hungry so you end up sitting around eating more moving less getting your body into storage mode and rapidly gaining weight chops. So a lot of Muslims and I hear this argument always in moderation. It's just like, and then I compare it to cigarettes like okay, yeah, so give a kid a cigarette and just in moderation. One cigarette is not gonna do anything to the child. But it's gonna get them
addicted. Yeah, right is this sugar is what they've done. I don't know if you've seen this documentary called fed up. I always recommend people watch this done fed. And they did scans of the brain and they show that sugar is actually more addictive than cocaine actually laid up the same. Yeah, right part of the brain. Yeah, one of the actually downsides to of having so much sugar is that you mentioned something really important about fat loss, how you notice that your fat loss actually drastically improving once you reduce the amount of sugar. And that goes actually to understand the correlation between insulin and also
the other hormones that's in charge of mobilizing and oxidation of the fat once insulin is down, and that's what you always need to make sure of every meal you eat. I'll give you an example. One of the things that every time you start to eat, you should never start with carbohydrates. You should never start with fat, you could but what's better, is you start with leafy greens, vegetables, and such things, then you follow up with protein, then you follow up with fat, then you have your dessert at the end, even if it's rice, you eat them separately in that order. And that actually helps with not spiking your insulin and SubhanAllah. Allah created in such a way that once the food touches your
stomach or go through, it actually has mechanism to recognize what it is. So actually start the digestion process at an early stage, so we knows what it needs to release and if you put sugar, it says the body okay, we get in a load of the sweet stuff. Let's spike insulin because we need to shove it inside the cells. But if you start with leafy greens, that doesn't happen because leafy greens don't have that much of simple sugar. Another thing that our brothers can actually do is take a 10 minute brisk walk walks after you eat is good for your digestion. After you have your insulin as well and it doesn't it helps really keep a cap on that amount of
insulin, another thing is fasting. It's amazing that once you fast your insulin sensitivity improves drastically. A lot of people will be like, Okay, it's lunchtime, but I don't want to eat. Okay. Why? Because I fall asleep is because your insulin resistance if you fast two days in a row, right, of course from sunrise to sunset, your your cognitive ability, also you will eat and you will not feel tired, you actually will empower you because everything is getting absorbed. Everything is getting digested correctly. And then you mentioned there is a recent news about aspartame in
00 Coke, right. And they always back Yeah, I want to get zero coke. But people don't understand even if it has zero calories. I'll tell you another sweetener that is that is dangerous, the same as aspartame is sucralose. Right? It causes an alteration in your gut biome. And if you alter, that means that you're increasing your cortisol, that means your insulin is getting increased, and then you are actually lowering your testosterone. But more so the neurotransmitters, they're not like serotonin is produced in the gut. So neurotransmitter is actually important for daily functioning for you to focus on for you to actually be healthy. So you can see the ramification of actually
using fake sugars. But another thing is creating, I mean, you can see even obese kids, right? Parents are arresting epidemic. Yes. And, and parents are irresponsible in such a way very responsible. Yes. And they break coke. And then in even in Islamic gatherings, they will bring let's say a lot of bread, they will bring a lot of coke. And they bring, let's say a lot of rice, right? That's absolutely overcooked, which is actually worse, because right not even the doughnuts and all of the pizza, pizza and all this stuff, right? chicken, rice, everything. Yeah, you know, one thing I want to expand on with the topic of like fiber and kind of like layering your stomach making sure
you're eating things in the right order. And then also tiny with the whole concept like spiking your insulin, because like first, as we mentioned before, like with fruits, because there's the fiber with the sugar is going to hit your bloodstream slower, so you're gonna get less of an insulin spike. And again, there's a lot of downsides to having these huge insulin spikes. Because then your blood sugar crashes, you get hungry, you get tired, all these different things versus and then obviously, that contributes to the problem with diabetes that we have, because not only are you becoming obese from all the fat that you're storing from all that sugar and insulin spike and all
those calories, but and then the excess consumption, but you're also causing insulin resistance, which is why so many Muslims have type two diabetes, especially, you know, in the Pakistani population, Arab population, we're genetically prone to these things. So on top of that, when we're eating unhealthy, it causes a lot of issues, but simply by making the shifts to carbs that have a lower glycemic index, and putting fiber and protein in our stomach before the sugar hits, so that it slows down digestion, which is going to lower the sort of glycemic index, the glycemic spike of those carbs in our system makes a huge difference. My, my nutrition has made the slogan and I often
repeat it, because sometimes people can get very intimidated by some of these words. And a lot of these things are over their head and seems confusing unless someone starts to until somebody gets to the next level or gets into it. So we often say real simple what you guys think, eat real food, avoid fake food absolutes, like the white belt level? Because we can get deeper into all the different yes, if it doesn't, if it doesn't have a label, eat it as an egg. So how would you define that? That's a good one right there eating real food. Avoiding fake food is what if it doesn't have a label? Eat it. For example, an ag doesn't have a label? Yeah, we understand he has a shelf life.
But it wasn't stamped. It wasn't mixed in. It's literally you took it from the the the end of the chicken and then you put it in there. That's it. This is interesting. This opens up a whole different conversation because there have been there's been some push against it. But eggs, but this is one also a very healthy food, right? One of the best one of the best. What about this whole thing when you ask? And we're talking about free range? We're talking about gaming, we're talking about healthy chickens. What about when you hear this argument also now that it can increase cholesterol and all this stuff, but at some myths that revive revolve around eggs, which eggs is very healthy?
So you know, what I would say is there's foods that are healthy, but obviously if we consume anything in excess, it's going to be a bad thing because we also need to be mindful about the quantities it's about quality and quantity, right? So if we're eating excess of anything, like I mean, I guess it would be kind of hard to eat like too many cucumbers or too many carrots or whatever. But even if you eat too many dates, it's a healthy food but you're going to end up just the whole the total glycemic load the total amount of sugar in those days even if it's you know, less bad than you know, eating a tablespoon of sugar, it's going to be too much so with eggs as
well. Eggs definitely get a bad rap and if somebody has really really high cholesterol and they just had a heart attack all that stuff, maybe don't eat like 10 eggs a day, right but at the same time getting eggs into your diet can be highly beneficial and brother has seen actually has a lot of knowledge on this topic as well. What about the Healthy clusters, the healthy cholesterol, so I think that a lot of even doctors actually hard doctors that is a harder
Arthur, who just wrote a book about
heart attacks and why people get them, and he noticed that young people start getting heart attacks. And he said, Okay, is it bad cholesterol, what how these plagues are actually built up in the arteries and all those areas where they pumping blood and then bigger strokes. And he realized that the issue was not actually the cholesterol, because what's what are the hormones? For example, what's the makeup of testosterone? It's a cholesterol, right? So cholesterol is not bad. Fats are not bad. The right fats are actually really good for you. And you should do, you should use them. Fats helps you absorb nutrients, it helps you to regulate your hormones, which, if you have a lack
on any of those, you're actually going to live either depressed, you're going to feel lethargic all the time. And some even suffer the some other performance, right, you're not going to be performing at your peak or all time. But sugar is actually the main cause. Because when sugar is at what it does, because of the arteries, they they have layers, and actually the sugars are damaging those layers, then what happened the body is so smart, it tells the calcium and the cholesterol to go seal and repair, then you get plagues then if you don't fix it, it continue then you get one slips off. And that's what happened in the stroke. Before we shift to another topic tell me what message would
you give to the local board members are people who make the decisions and when people bringing in the food you know after after Joomla is over or something and then you have people lined up selling Coca Cola giving pizza, or giving donuts, candies to kids and whatnot? What advice would you give and what substitute one time I actually came into it's when they were giving out candies I came in and I brought all these different variety of different fruits and stuff dates in that and I said this is better to give better and I'm starting to educate them a little bit what advice so hopefully you can take this and run with it so they can because the detrimental effects I mean it's very, very
like you severe severe with the obesity and children. Kids are suffering tooth decay at such a young age right from the sugars and all the other health disasters and even self esteem as well. Yes, that's going to be affected look into your mirror and you're just fat and you know and you're not probably being connected, maybe some mental health issues due to this awesome. So what advice would you give for him to get this out of the massage and replaceable so it's at the local Masjid who is feeding the children donuts and sugar and bringing Pepsi and you know all this even departments, the machines, the vending machines, yes, there's unhealthy food even in the vending machine. There's all
these chips and Cheetos and whatnot that these kids become addicted to and accustomed to and they're eating them as adults when they definitely can't afford to be eating them. But even as kids were getting obesity, again, what I'd say to the local Masjid is remember the health of your community is going to make such a big difference as far as the quality of our iba though when we're worshiping right because I think that's the biggest thing is a community wants the masjid wants people to be connected to the community feel good and ultimately please Allah right, please God is ultimately our purpose for everything. So we're going to worship Allah better if our energy levels are good from
eating healthy foods to replace, you know the doughnuts with fruits, like you said, the fruits are healthy, they're sweet, and maybe somebody who's addicted to eating like 10 Donuts a day is going to need a couple of weeks to get used to eating fruit, but once they do, they'll prefer it because they're going to feel better, they're going to have energy, they're going to actually feel good, instead of being bloated, tired and flamed all the time. Same thing with a lot of our dishes that we make as Muslims in our different cultures, Pakistani Arab, whatever it may be, we can easily make a very similar tasting dish a lot healthier by not putting excessive oil in it. And by using higher
quality oils instead of putting like canola oil on a lot of this junk garbage. absolute garbage process causes inflammation everything else you know there's some scientists who say Oh, you know it's not that bad but look the way it's processed the way that they use toxic compounds to extract the canola from the plant etc. It's very bad for you most people will notice if you just switch off canola oil you're gonna feel a lot less inflamed versus be added back and you feel very inflamed So switching to olive oil which is the sun that the thing that our Prophet peace be upon him recommended is gonna be so much more beneficial using you know, natural grass fed butter and ghee
and using it in appropriate quantities where we're not loading it with a ton of calories, keeping the food a little bit less calorie dense putting a little bit more protein high quality meats, high quality proteins, grass fed beef, organic chicken even telling the halal forums to start treating the animals right because you know if you're going to slaughter the animal right you should also raise the animal right give a good food Don't be given the animal steroids you'll go to like the the Hello foods or the chicken breasts are enormous because they pumped it with steroids they pumped it with all kinds of hormones. So again message to the masjid when we prepare these foods let's prepare
them home cooked to Muslim restaurants so it's not loaded up with so much oil let's make it taste good with high quality ingredients to the forums. It's not pumped animals full of hormones. Let's follow the Sunnah and do what pleases God what pleases Allah the most which is to treat the animals right to treat the Community Right to give the community good wholesome food Allah tells us in the Haoran consume the good wholesome foods and do not commit excess Allah does not love those who commit excesses those who are excessive so a
When it comes down to the portion control from the heavy from the Koran it comes down to the quality of the foods and it comes down to you know practical solutions for the methods swap out the sweets for fruits swap out the bad oils for good oils, adjust the quantity so the food has a little more protein a little more fiber a little bit less excessive fats and carbs, everything else we can still eat carbs it's fine just stick with those you know like basmati rice and moderate quantities is very good especially when happened with fiber and protein it's not going to spike your blood sugar the way that you know a lot of these high sugar high glycemic carbs are gonna affect it so again those
natural foods is going to make a massive difference inshallah prophecy was talked about the two things that people take for granted the most is there time and health. Yes, and this is a priceless gift from our Creator from God Almighty Allah, and this is the way inshallah our spiritual side working on it to salaam to the pillars of Islam and all the other things that have been prescribed for us also, to get this to be a holistic individual. This is something that's so important is the nutrition the fuel that we put in our body 100% There's one ayah from the Quran that I always reflect over you know, when it comes to this topic and sudo bakudo was 172 or God Almighty Allah is
saying yeah, you handle Adina almond, oh Kulu min tyy Bertie, man, and people just kind of just gloss over this. Why is the Creator Allah saying, Oh, you believe
eat of the Tyee bat? You know, this is, you know, goodness, the good, organic, pure back then it wasn't called organic. We just foods, the real foods. Why is Allah mentioning this, this is this is something, you know, in the midst of all the other things that are mentioned, He's instructing us to eat good food. Absolutely. And to actually really inject something more to prospectively to the non Muslims is that when we talk about that you bet matters up now calm is more like the goodness that we have given to you. And Allah told us to not eat other things. For example, I would say the alcohol is a fermented whatever,
you got the wine, you got the other you have the pork, right. And the reason why we don't eat it is not only because it has scientific and all that stuff, we can dive into those. But it's Allah gave us all these options. And tell us not to do this one thing. So always goes to
instant gratification. I think as Muslims, we have to understand and emulate the test that Allah puts upon us that we're in this dunya to be tested, we're in this dunya to be put in front of us things that Allah said, do not do. And we will be rewarded later on with Jana insha. Allah towel, it's the same thing apply at a micro level, when you go and you see it, don't don't eat it, you got to think about what is going to do. But if you are just driven by desire, and you just fall for anything and everything, therefore, your mindset is flawed and you will not you are at a greater scheme, I would say maybe you're even failing the bigger test. Right. So when you when you follow
that frame of standards, you will be really understanding the ramifications of your decision at a micro level because they actually somehow represent the macro level, which is your mission, as Allah said, when mahalo octogenarian inter Ilya Abu Dune, or I didn't create the jinn and the ins, the end the humans, the mankind, just to worship me. And that is actually the true essence in a mission of someone. And the body is in a manner that we have to take care of it. Right. And we have to do everything that we can to be functional, to be always in a good state. And we have to also, as you mentioned, something really interesting. A lot of people have this too long to read, right right now
be like, Oh, he's talking about nutrition. He mentioned so many hormones, you mentioned this micronutrients, man, I have no time for that. I need to make money. But really, believe it or not, if you dive into nutrition, and you understand that you probably run it driving the car with henge bricks up, because your nutrition is broken, you're not gonna know going nowhere, your engine is gonna suffer your brakes and all these things, and I don't think anyone in the rational mind to drive their car with the hands of brakes up. All right. So understanding intuition, read books, read books, understand, watch podcasts about nutrition, try, because not everything's gonna work for you
to do tests for your blood. There is a book that's called Eat based on your blood type. If you'll be positive, maybe you are hypersensitive to certain things, your blood reacts differently to different nutrients, you need to understand that there is also other diets, they are really based on performance, optimal digestion, they will help you massively in getting the most out of your day. And I believe that a Muslim should be functioning as zero or 100. Zero is sleeping 100 Is every day, you cannot afford to be a function 50 Because you're going to be hurt. You're not going to take the most out of your time. And as you said, the two things are food and wasting time right and time
wasting. So if we take advice
adage of those two things, you will not be tired at all, you always be function. Yes, we all have pitfalls. And I'm not saying that you have to be rigid about it, you can treat yourself here and there with a healthy dessert, right. And I think finding that balance is really important. The balance is not that, as you said, if I give you one cigarette a day, it will not make a difference. I think the mindset of you have to do what I like to call it, amplifying the situation, therefore, you understand the magnitude and the ramifications of your actions. For example, if I'm gonna eat one doughnut, what would it do? If I eat 1000 Donuts in a nutshell is like in it wouldn't be
beneficial, the answer is no. Okay, then one is going to harm me as Allah Subhanallah Zildjian said about the alcohol right in
the few inner Kathira who mother more like the the the whole, the bigger quantity, it will be harmful to you. And maybe you will have benefits from NFL kalila like small benefits here and there. But it will be dismissed because of the grand scheme of things because it's harmful. And that's kinda like the approach is magnifying the utilization of that thing. Same thing goes actually for weed for all these things that a lot of people are not thinking is a big deal and fixing your nutrition is a top priority and it's from the is from the Quran, the first he says ACARA Bismillah Bacala the HELOC and then once he our prophets a lot of sell them digested the information for quite
a bit then he says yeah, you have more data on the end there. So
stand up and go and preach to people but also at the at after that. A incentivizes him to start with himself right to clean his robe to stay away from ill speech and all those things so in the hola hola Yoruba community or euro maybe unfussy him, Allah would never change the situation of, of a group of people until the change starts within. And that's where we have to come to understand nutrition you have to take it as serious thing because then you can pass it down to your children and absolutely just and then you you build in a thriving community, a strong Ummah, and that's what we truly should aspire to be. Absolutely. And we're building that foundation now be holistic human
beings, holistic Muslims, sha Allah so we have this topic, we've touched upon it in nutrition very important before we get into also on this, this is about being a high value, man. And all of these things. Yeah, good hygiene, good appearance, good nutrition. Making sure you're praying five times a day. Absolutely sure you're connected to your Creator. And next part we're talking about is working out. And I'm sure you've heard of Arnold Schwarzenegger. And Ron Ronnie, you heard of Ronnie? Yeah, Ronnie Coleman. Ronnie Coleman, we'll get your reaction to this. Good Ronnie warming up there looking good.
boys was going on.
This is the one for me. This is the ultimate. I saw this. I was like, the first thing I was like, wow, this is a seven or eight time Olympian Ronnie. And I think I don't know if he's just going through an injury or what's happening when he's on crutches now. So the tricky thing with Ronnie Coleman is he trained very excessively heavy and he's publicly admitted this I mean, all these guys do take steroids, right? And so when you're taking substances that make you unnaturally strong beyond what your joints are designed to be able to handle, I mean, you can train your joints and strengthen your joints but Ronnie Coleman, I mean, he squat like 800 pounds for reps was dead
lifting for reps. Mashallah, right. But at the same time, you know, by putting so much stress on his body doing that, like a couple of weeks out for the Olympia when he was super depleted from his training from his diet, everything, very, very dangerous loss of damage. So he's got like a bunch of fused vertebrae in his spine. He's had tons of surgeries, hip replacement, everything. So that's why he's on crutches. And for him, he actually regrets nothing, because he said it was worth it. Everything else. I mean, I think most people wouldn't find that to be worth it. But everybody can make their own decisions, of course. So it's important. I mean, back to the core end verse, Do not
commit excess, right? So we can take that lesson that Allah teaches us in one area of our life and apply it to others. It's not just nutrition, it's training. It's any area you don't want to be excessive and unbalanced. And so if you end up really over stressing your body and wearing it out, not taking care of injury prevention, very, very important, even a lot of people who are very diligent with their exercise, diligent with their nutrition, amazing physique, amazing fighters, amazing athletes, do not take care of their mobility and injury prevention. And that's a whole another topic we can dive into. And even when it pertains to our deen, you don't want to be somebody
who ends up being stuck in a chair praying when you're older. And of course, it is blood there Allah but we still need to do our part to do our best to make sure that we're taking care of our bodies. So that doesn't happen. And so we're minimizing the chance. Same thing with any condition we may have. And again, we have to take the ownership on ourselves and not just blame clutter, but be the one who has a level change with people when they're willing to change themselves.
But at the same time, you know, same thing when it comes to our body not over injuring ourselves and overusing the different parts of our body. So that's how old are they about now in their 70s 80s. orals in his 70s Ronnie is only in his 50s or 60s. He's only in his 50s or 60s. So one thing from a different angles seeing this as they're still working out. Yes. We're still working on this. Yeah, yeah. I actually used to work at Gold's Gym. And I think Ronnie, what happened to him is that that's the gym. This is actually is called a mech lodge in the Mecca. Yeah, that's what it's the Mecca of
Bodybuilding Mecca of Bodybuilding. Oh, it's Mecca, body Gold's Gym in Venice. Bodybuilding is yeah, okay, Mecca of Bodybuilding. So did you ever used to see them there? Yes, I yeah, yes. Yeah. I met Have you met? I met Arnold. Sports. Yes, I met Arnold. Yeah, I met two other few top bodybuilders as well. Yeah. Because that was some sort of the business that I used to run in terms of like filming and all that stuff and content creation. I think also the the, the combinations as brother Munir said the exogenous hormones that the the use and they abuse in a way, but also, it's not so much about just doing heavy lifting, we have to understand that I think that is recently there was a
video going, like viral bottom man, a guy who was in Mecca and he was shirtless. And he was, you know, walking out, you
you're not you weren't the guy and now No, no, never do such thing. But I think bodybuilding in itself just alone and not having the ability to
defend yourself and fight. And as you guys have here, a jujitsu gym and a striking gym as well Masha Allah is actually you prepare yourself for situations where you'd be able to fight, you'll be able to defend your honor or your family. And I think just doing body buildings in its own and neglecting the other aspect of the same mobility, self myofascial release, which is just you're massaging yourself, and you're releasing nutrition, nutrition as well, which is really important about that as well.
You have to be multifaceted individual so you can be actually a hybrid athlete in the sense that you need to be able to fix things. Make sure you're stretching all the time, not just bodybuilding. I believe that these individuals who are suffering like Ronnie Coleman right now, because they didn't take a holistic approach to the sport, a lot of people were gonna come after me saying like, Who are you to say this because you got no Mr. limpias and all that stuff. But I mean, you see him he can even walk what kinda quality of life and actually I know him. I know his his injuries really well and I listen to his podcast is always nine out of 10 in pain, even when he does life now, overdoses
of just nine out of 10 pain and since now one out of this a nine, nine out of 10 is like the maximum and he would sometimes go even it's 12 out of 10. So that means he's probably taking painkillers, painkillers he has to literally his mind, always thinking just the pain above the hips. I mean, he can even comfortably get in and out. That's a whole different topic of the addiction of painkillers. What is altering your mind your neurons? All this other stuff that's happening in your body? Yes. Wow. And they are widely prescribed to to everyone who think they are actually stuck in a rut and feeling depressed. What was your reaction since you brought up this this video that went viral with
the brother there in Mecca? Yeah, you guys reaction to that. So it's interesting, because obviously, you know, we always want to assume the best of our fellow Muslim but at the same time, that's not the appropriate place to be, you know, flexing the gains and whatnot. But I think the other thing too, is, you know, saying that we're talking about this and it's a huge topic, which is that bodybuilding can sometimes breed a degree of narcissism and again, I'm saying and assuming nothing about our brother who's our brother in Islam, I won't assume the best. But it is a pattern that Jose and I have both noticed being around bodybuilders is that it breeds this unhealthy level of
narcissism. In addition to that, as Muslims Our goal with being fit is not for the sake of vanity of course, it's great to look good and say Masha Allah when you see yourself in the mirror, and to give Allah credit for giving you the blessing and the potential opportunity to build a great physique. But we as Muslims, we do this because we want to take care of the Amana the trust that Allah has entrusted us with with our body. And when we do it for that sake, there's been a kind of, there's blessings in it because we're seeking to become closer with God and to please God to please Allah, by building our bodies taking care of our health. We're not doing it for the sake of narcissism or
self glorification, because that could even lead to minor shirk, right. When we're putting ourselves on a pedestal when in reality, we need to be humble. And instead, you know, realize that God is infinitely greater than we as human beings could ever be. Good point. Good point. So how important is it now, to along with good nutrition? On a basic level, some people are not going to be able to get to that level that they're in the gym five, six times a day, but basic stuff we're talking about for the basic person. Even many of the moms might be watching the shapes and ad
Come down and listen, man, I feel bad people aren't taking me serious. I gotta get rid of his pregnant belly. And I got look, I got twins here. So what basic stuff they do from getting up and just walking speed walk in maybe some push ups, you can't even do one. Right? So what basic stuff, then they can slowly build up. I think one of the more is it, why is it so important? It's so important to, to to continuously moving through life so you can maintain a healthy body. Another thing too, is that there is a misconception. And you actually mentioned that you said that people cannot do six days a week at the gym. And actually, that's not the right approach to training. If
you study the Prophet, the life of the prophet salatu salam, and also the Sahaba, they did not, per se train everyday, this they were in Ward, they were moving every day they were walking, they had a different lifestyle. They didn't have even within Mecca, they didn't just hop or Medina, they just just hop on the horse and go from just from here to there. But in today's time, people are not even willing to take steps and walk or take the stairs, they will take the elevator, right? And they be like, Yeah, I don't want to sweat or anything like that. Or they will ever refuse to go to the gym because I'm tired. But it starts with actually just putting your shoe on the door and be like, Okay,
tomorrow, how to just take a five minute walk after a meal. And training in to see results. One thing that you need to do is that you just need to go to the gym, 30 minutes will be fine. If you go train with intensity and the correct one, you understand the form, you're not going to hurt yourself. And you learn your body as you go. And that's the beauty of it, and you will appreciate it. And you actually will bring you closer to Allah to realize I have these all intricate, amazing mechanisms in my body. This is didn't happen just out of the blue. This is not a just a big bang. And we were monkeys and we evolved into human beings. And you had all this like ideology that they
have into evolution, you understand that there is a Creator there is a designer who actually
created us in a beautiful way that we function. So to circle back to the tips, just do three days a week. Just pick the time after Pfizer. Go for a run, lift something heavy, lift it fast, make sure your stretch you're warmed, make sure you're recovering. Well. A lot of brothers don't take recovery. When people think about recovery, which is not their aspect that's really important besides nutrition, and training, which majority do have access channels don't really talk about is that they think recovery is just chilling, grabbing your phone and over indulging in Netflix or social media. Now, a true recovery is actually flushing out those toxins, right? The toxins that
they help you to perform core results helps you to survive. So you have to take ice bath, you have to do hijama which is a Sunon w which is wet cupping. I know a lot of people be discussed by but you have to do it every three three months. Java hijama Yes. hijama it's almost it's revived as sooner this is so important. Yes, you literally will feel that your your lighter, you sleep better your cognitive your ability, you perform you think better, and you feel better. Also, what's more important is that you immolating the profits, a larger set of them so you have Azure on it as well. And you can see the the I actually posted a lot of those videos in my, my, my page that you can see
the red and the clutters and the gases and the white plasma dirty stuff yellow, so it's really disgusting, but you will feel amazing doing it. A lot of people don't even take the time and this actually circling back to the cholesterol. Were a topic because we are eating all these processed foods and then it's been just been in the body but if you flush it out through doing hijama it will help you massively and you can see the change in your body. So I love it. What was the other thing? You recommended ice bath I spoke into sauna you can do acupuncture as well. You can easily like to ice baths. I love it. Yes yes Every week I do it twice if now I'm thinking about doing it every
night before sleep or you can How long do you get into the cold water? What do you do? Five minutes five minutes. Five minutes is good. Yes. And then after a workout if there is a sauna and your gym go into Sinai has a great healing properties it will help you to actually produce some protein as well in a lot of studies on the on the Sun of the hot cardiovascular health yes right yes growth hormone increased testosterone increase it's an amazing L so you flush out toxins through your skin which is the biggest organ in the body and it lowers the risk of you know heart attack it's there's a strong correlation between frequent sauna use and lower risk of heart attack. So this is very
good. But I wanted to actually expand on the topic of like steps for like you know, maybe some of the Imams and brothers and possibly sisters as well who are looking down and feeling like hey, I need to make some little steps but I'm not sure with exercise. You know what a little step so brother Hussein mentioned like even the littlest step like having your workout clothes ready to go will kind of prime your brain to reduce that resistance point and be able to start taking little action
Since but building a little routine, right Walking is one of the best ways to just start getting into working out. So again, like a lot of individuals who might not be able to do a push up, or you know, even individuals who have never worked out in their life, and now they're in their 50s, and 60s, and they can't necessarily build muscle very quickly, because again, time is working against them. But they still know that they need to do something about their health, starting with just a walking, starting with just a little bit of bodyweight movements at home some isometrics meaning exercise where you just hold a position to build that baseline strength and make a very big
difference. And we just expand on those things. Even a lot of individuals in their 20s 30s 40s, people who are younger, who can build muscle faster, we can still start to take those little baby steps with some bodyweight training at home with some basic steps of walking, nutrition and everything else getting in your protein intake. And once we just build an easy, sustainable rhythm, whether it's five minutes a day, 10 minutes a day, 2030 something small that we can do every day that enriches us, like we were talking about before, it's not going to take time and energy away from your other priorities in life, it's going to give you more time and energy, you're going to
take off the brake and finally be able to drive at full speed and put the right fuel on your body that God gave you. Because when you get loan to car and you put the wrong fuel in, it's not going to run properly, when you put the right fuel in it and you take care of it and you service the engine and you give it its you know, do maintenance he Jama can be kind of like your oil change, right? That allows your body to function so much better, which allows you to make so much more out of your day, like we've seen said. So there's little steps of the walking some isometrics all these things. These are some steps that I've used with some of the chefs who have come to me who are in that
position, or even, you know, individuals from all walks of life, who just want to start building that baseline fitness and start to get that ball rolling a shoulder. I like this analogy where you're going through life with the parking brake on or you got the bandaid on the check engine light. Yeah, you're not solving the root problem. And
the other thing I took away from this was when I saw them to
some of the great bodybuilders of all time right on resource nigger, but you can see now that their life you see how
both of them you're and I didn't know this, he's just his life. Okay. He spent a good portion of his life and he enjoyed and whatnot. But now what does he have? If it's not built on true purpose in life? Arnold Schwarzenegger, same thing Mr. Olympia, how many seven seven times so there Ronnie? Eight, is it? 88 times Okay, you had the things that you accomplished and people praised you and whatnot. And now people are forgetting about you, Ronnie who I didn't know who he was really. And he's in pain. He's on crutches. If you're not living for if you're just your whole life is just about working out. Yeah, breeds like you were saying this narcissism and whatnot, and you didn't
connect with your Creator area. And now the weights are staying behind. And absolutely, there's another point to a chips away from your masculinity. Because a person a man, I would say per se who is very interested in massively how he looks. And there are people who are going to look good, and there are people who are actually almost checking themselves in the mirror all the time, I lose an inch here, I'm here and they they pay they pay me Nicholas details to kinda like how they look, they fall in the trap of actually becoming an effeminate, because a woman is the beauty. You know, side of the equation. If we talk about, let's say, the masculine and the feminine, because feminine are
intriguing to the way you look at this way we are asked to lower our gaze, but a masculine man almost doesn't care so much about how he looks, but he should take care of himself. As brother Munoz earlier said above the Hadith, we should not take one in linear, we have to see the collection where they say for example, there's a hadith that says a moment or a weak Hydrometeor moment of life, right? The strong believer is better than the weaker believer. And this could be even in Eman or it could be in physical right. But there is another Hadith when our Prophet sallallahu Sallam walked on the sahaba. And he found them rustling inside the Masjid. Now he was bothered by the fact that they
were wrestling. But he wanted to teach them a lesson. And then he knew he saw what they were doing. But he insisted to ask, what are you guys doing? And then they said orsola We're we're wrestling. And to see who's the best man whose original who's the real man. And he said, the real man is the one who can actually control his anger. And this is goes into, like how to actually control your emotion as a man. But some brothers be like, yeah, so if I control my anger, I'm good. I'm said no. What about the other Hadith? That's a moment of harmony with life? Right? So you have to somehow take everything in correlation, not in linear and we see a lot with a lot of Tiktok
I would say data Yeah. Or you know, those Instagram that they take one thing and they just kind of like okay, look at this. Okay, what did you study the dean, did you understand the whole? The whole Hadith that surrounds that topic? Because the Prophet alayhi salatu salam had one thing to say about that situation, but then he teaches them as they went through
Life he didn't just sit down was like okay, this is the Dean all of it this the book I got you guys the book follow the book now even ALLAH SubhanA wa jal prepared us from Adam, until a prophet Allah Malley, salam until our Prophet sallallahu sallam, so everything was gradual, even the revelations came slower. And slowly through that, so we have to understand the collection of a hadith and the should not take things linear in a way. So So we covered a lot of things that go into making a masculine man. And now there isn't this, what they call the manosphere, what is the manosphere? The manosphere, red pill, red pill, you hear these things? So this is kind of connected, you got some
things in there to talk about, you know, working out talk about how masculinity and burden of performance and all these other things, concepts that are there, we spoke a little bit off camera that you've also indulged a little bit in reading or you Yes, yeah, a lot of this material, I dove into a lot of books about the, let's say, one of the books was the rational male, there's series, there are five. And then I read a little bit about
Cooper, entrepreneurs in cars. He's another guy too. But all these, what was your takeaway from all you read a lot of the books Yes, to take away at the end, I think they, they really analyze a certain situation. And they are into what they call the intersexual dynamics. And it's almost like, and they explained it as it's been a praxeology, not an ideology or anything like that, because it's ever evolving into observing and sort of like taking notes on human behavior and how the two sexes actually interact. And one of the things that they focus on in terms of the high value man, as you mentioned, is that the man has to sleep with as many women and he needs to have experience. And
another thing is the burden of performance, what I would like to what I would think that they assess the certain phenomenon and situations and issues correctly. But the dis, the description of the issue is correct. The prescription is what's flawed, because you are creating the same issue that you are actually trying to run away from. Because if you are telling men focus on your purpose, but then you turn them sleep with as many women as possible, then how's that those are actually contrary in a sense, because a man focuses no has only his purpose, would not have distractions, and should not, right, and if you have like Islam prescribed a solution for men get married and get married
early. Do not wait. If you find the right spouse, you vet her correctly, her father, accept your father, everyone is good. And you agreed, marry, marry them, even next. I think also this message probably would hit maybe fathers a lot more. Because now the kids, they look at the father, but the father never told them like, hey, get married early. And then the kid is like, yeah, you gotta finish college, you're gonna make my money. I gotta do this, I gotta do that. But also you find the sister Sue like, I want him I want a G Wagen for a mother. I want 50k And the house in the blood, right? That's kinda like something that you've probably seen lately. And one of the rules they
created the asks are just beyond Crazy, right? So things are the Haram is getting easier the halali will be so hard you have to spend so much money to just get a halal relationship but haram you just a movie ticket, whatever and then it's done right? Maybe 100 bucks 20 bucks. So they push this idea to focus on your purpose, but yet be distracted with desire. And those are two do not meet. So yeah, they they really contradict itself. So I think that's why Islam is the solution, not a solution as brother Jim Carrey in the Romani say, is the solution because everything that we is coming from the Creator, the Creator knows best and we have the Quran is our manual. And our Prophet sallallahu
Sallam gave us a hadith and Sierra and he explained massively on this family dynamic and all that don't get married until you're 35 making six figures a year in shape one at the gym consistently and have 50 Girls, how would you respond to that? So what did he say? So this is do you notice brother? Yeah, brother Myron? Yeah, he's a Muslim brother. May Allah guide him to the again to the true path in sha Allah. We want him having these. These conversations with fonts that are promoting things that are halal, that's going to bring the blessings upon him upon the Ummah but these statements like this, okay, don't get married to your 35 or five. What's the other one six figure six figure
what else? You got the sleeping with as many women as possible put a number on actually 50 Yeah. 50 What would you say to him? I think he's his assessment to the situation is kind
I mean, out of what the Western world and train as a human being as much as you think that you know, you don't know, because you're not all knowing. And if you are prescribing things in that, in that fashion, you have to understand the ramification and the result of the results you give in men. Because yeah, my my some men will be like, Yeah, that's actually what it is because I am the man I'm, I'm pissed because this girl cheated on me or this, but you're already starting off of the wrong start, because you're dating and dating is absolutely haram. Because you go in from the back doors, you're not coming from the front, every men even actually the western man who has precept
who's a Christian or who just an agnostic or atheist, they would appreciate it if you come through the front door says saying that, hey, I would love to get to know your daughter and marry her. And this is actually was uncommon to date and go out and all that stuff until the 1970 Right, when the the feminist movement starts, and also the invention of the pregnancy pills and it became a provided a safety net for the poor decisions of women. And you can see the waves of feminism they come one second, first they want equality, then it become more and more and more until, to be a better man, you have to be more like a woman in today's gynocentric few first female first
society and even you can see even with our sisters, they almost became above criticism. You can say anything to a woman, you can tell her you can give Naseeha you can do honorable Morrow, Fernanda munkar, you can tell them, Don't do this and do this. This is better for you. And this is why our Prophet salallahu Salam preaches. So I think, I think what I would like to say is, and I watched some of his videos about Islam when he actually dive into it, and you can see the sincerity and that he knows actually, that what he's saying is almost like he's trying to customize something for a certain audience. But Allah send Islam to the entire humanity. Now just you can't just pick and
choose, right? You can't you can't say like, Okay, this is gonna work for this group. But because they are the dating is okay for them. And all this is okay for them. Yeah, make money, get strong, be responsible, but also do not violate anything that Allah said do not do what a horrible Xena don't even come near fornication, but now he's actually incentivizing. And if you
if you are gonna give people such advice, if people take actions upon it, thinking that you are actually influenced you taken bad deeds through that, and you've got to really think about that. Absolutely. Is this red? Is this red pill? Absolutely. Yes. Is Red Pill theology? Yes, yeah. They'll say theology but this is actually become like a religion almost. Yes. They have one thing is called spinning plates. It's a it's a concept they have, although the writer of the book will defend it say that spin in place doesn't mean that you have to sleep with this woman. That's the term spinning plates spinning plates. Yes, that means fornicating. It's more like you have to see multiple women
at the same time. All dating woman at the same marriage? Not a marriage. No. So it's for it's for indicating Yes, yes. Yes. Yes. And it's almost like you have to kind of look into your options. Until you find a good woman in a sense. Yeah. Let's What are your What are your thoughts there? It's really, I like what you said, because Allah, if you're a Muslim, and again, we want the best for his breasts, and many we do. And maybe he's not understanding the impact the consequence of person's actions, you're out there. And a law is saying, for example, so it can hit home. Allah says, pray five times a day. But then you say, you know, I'm not, you know, I'm not a good Muslim. And then
you're advising people not to pray at all.
Or a law saying get married, you say, Don't get married have 50. So, or you're, you have a wife, spouse at home, and you're telling her one thing, and now she's rebelling against you, what are you going to do? You're probably going to in his case, he's going to get rid of it. You have a child, you're telling the child what to do? You're the superior and he's disobeying you. rebellious? This is your Creator when your Creator told you if you want to do it, do a lawfully in marriage. And if you need more, two, three or four, four, and that's it has a limit right? Now you're saying no, you can do 50 You're going to war with I mean, you're like, this is like it's one thing you're you're
concealing your sins, but now you're coming up and promoting your own way. Yes. Can imagine the ramification against your Creator, your Creator saying this way you say no, go left, go right, go left go this way. He said go on the straight path. What are your thoughts when you hear it's very dangerous, it is very dangerous. And that's the biggest thing is that it is very easy for a lot of young brothers to become wrapped up in a lot of this red pill ideology because it can feel empowering in comparison with what's called the blue pill. The blue pill is kind of just like you know, the be a part of the system, be a cog in the wheel, et cetera, et cetera, follow you know,
blah, blah blah. Don't be a man
and be you know weak, effeminate quiet, don't you know try to excel in life just try not you know like just all these things don't don't try to bother anybody just whatever nice guy syndrome. So red pill can be very enticing for somebody who likes the idea of no be a rebel start a business go for indicate with women etc but as a paradigm that's infinitely higher than that which is the green pill as they call it or as we have always called it Islam submission to Allah. Allah is the One who created us, right? So let's say that you know, you bought a car, right? And some guy you know, some quack mechanic says no, no forget about the instruction manual from the manufacturer, do this thing,
this thing, this thing, and then all the things have a lot of consequences not on not only on yourself, but also on society. That's what the red pill is. Because not only is it consequential to society, negative and detrimental to society, when men go and you know, use women and then discard them, et cetera. Because now you have a lot of women who have been emotionally scarred in these ways, who then go on to emotionally scar men, because hurt people hurt people. And before you know it, you have a whole generation of people who are emotionally scarred and damaged and have baggage. And it just creates this very negative relationship culture we see today. And then the red pill
tries to solve it at the same level, the problem was created that no, the problem needs to be solved at a much higher level, which is a level from God Himself, the highest level possible, the One who created us, who then sent down the instruction manual in the Koran that told us what to do what not to do, who sent us our Prophet peace be upon him. So Allah Who Salam who he told us to listen to in the Koran. So whenever we listened to any of the authentic narrations from the Prophet peace be upon him, who told us the way to conduct ourselves, with our wives, with our children with our society, who told the women how to connect themselves with their husband, we don't need to listen to all
these pop culture figures. The red pill are some of the, you know feminists who are speaking to women these days telling them things that are also contrary to Islam. The red pill is like the male version of feminism, but both of them sometimes, actually, I would say probably most of the time or contrary to Islam and the Sunnah, we just have to follow Islam, and it's a society wide thing, right? You know, we as muscles, we have to be very careful when we're vetting a spouse, we can't just, you know, marry somebody who subscribes to these unaesthetic ideologies, because then it's not gonna be compatible with us when we're trying to live the deen properly. We have to find somebody
who's on the dean, the best way is to find somebody from a good family who's pre qualified, having come from a good family who has good relations with their family, who follows the deen to ask the right questions. Our brother Gibreel has a great marriage vetting classes really, that both of us would highly recommend. So definitely recommend looking into that. And from there, then you can start to establish the right path. And so that's with regards to you know, a lot of what the brother Myron said. And in addition to that, we were actually advised as Muslims to get married young not to wait till 35 Because at 35 I mean, you're you hit puberty. 20 years ago, you've had a high sex drive
for 20 years, there's a lot of room for error and a lot of room for the devil for shaitan. to whisper to us and lead us astray. The devil always makes us these promises, look to the first time that the devil ever let a human history he promised you know, Adam and Eve that the tree of you know immortality and blah, blah and guys just trying to prevent you from this blah, blah. No, God does not operate from a scarcity mindset. God is all abundant, right? So God doesn't need to operate from a spirit. If God tells us not to do something, it's for our own good. God is looking out for us. God loves us. God's not trying to deprive us of anything. God rather has told us not to go astray. But
yet the devil tells us no, there's some benefit for you and that there's some benefit for you and alcohol weed, sleeping alone and sleeping with men, whatever it may be. And that's how the devil tries to baby step you. And then if you go down the deep end in that path, guess what? Even look at someone like Dan Bilzerian Do you know who Dan Bilzerian is? Yeah, so he's like this massive Playboy and even he had this one interview where he was saying like, Okay, I slept with five women a day and I realize it's just this hedonic treadmill. Like if that's the level you're trying to get to, for somebody who's like, you know, thinks that the red pill is the right way. It ultimately is empty.
Dan Bilzerian himself said so. So if that isn't enough proof for you, that you shouldn't pursue that path then look at the Quran itself, look at all the truth and the signs in the Koran, all the knowledge that a man in that century, you know, living in Mecca couldn't have known right it's impossible that the Prophet peace be upon him could have had all that, you know, background knowledge, and all these different fields that the poor and covers and that their tonality could have been so consistent, even some of the signs that science has only recently discovered such as you know, the exact dynamics behind the Sky High Moon, who was helping the Pharaoh build his
pyramids, Allah referenced that in the Koran, you know, 1400 years ago and modern science only this dis deciphered this hieroglyphics now shows Islam is the truth on every level, just read the Koran. Anybody who has never read the Koran, just read it and you'll see exactly what I'm talking about. That's all you need. Who does this person you mentioned? What's his name? Dan? Dan Bilzerian. Let's have a look at what he has to say, million dollars. You know, a lot of people equate money to happiness, and it's not it's more freedom. What people don't understand is like, once your basic needs met, you don't get incremental happiness for more money you do for a short period of time.
Like if you're $100,000 a year guy and I bump you to 200,000 You're gonna be happy, but less than, alas, you're gonna use the 200,000 My problem is, you know, and a lot of rich people, there's nothing that I buy that brings me happiness. I bought a Ferrari. I wasn't happy for more than 24 hours, put 100 miles on the thing in a year and got rid of it. You know, like I just didn't care. I can't get pleasure spikes anymore. Being a pleasure seeker is like being a drug.
Did you take a Percocet makes you feel good? You know, now two weeks later, you got to take two purchases to get the same feeling three weeks later, you're taking 345. And then eventually you're taking them just to not feel like *. You don't get high anymore. Same thing with pleasure. Pleasure is like fleeting. And pleasure is one of those things where it's like, it's a black hole, you know, so what makes you happy?
Ha. Surfing, hang on my friends. And I mean, like, this doesn't cost money to be honest with you, you know, it's funny, but like, oh, just think about that. Let that sink. And it's like the new Hugh Hefner, pretty much modern day social media, Hugh Hefner, and that's the thing. It's a hedonic treadmill. When you've chased his pleasure, addiction, there's nothing but more chasing of pleasure, it's a treadmill, and the devil just runs you all day long like that. You're running on this low vibration energy that the devil feeds you. Versus when you listen to God you could be you could have nothing and you will be happy because you have that connection with Allah, because you have that
daily fulfillment. And guess what, you get that much more blessings in your life, God is going to test you but at the same time as you pass those tests you have so there's another narration for the Prophet Hadith as he wishes when when things are going well I'm paraphrasing it when things are going well sale hummed Allah all praises due to God and when things don't go well Have patience. And when we maintain that God is going to give us ups and downs. That's just how life is and that's how God tests us. And that's also how God keeps us grounded. So we're not on this you know, pleasure treadmill. So everything God does is for our own benefit. And so if you have that faith in God, he's
gonna bless you in all kinds of ways he didn't anticipate, if not in this life that absolutely in the next for someone like Myron or whoever, whoever else, especially, I mean, this is someone who is comes from a Muslim background, listen, parents, we want the best for the brother. Absolutely he, he can, instead of throwing out the baby with the bathwater, he can make some adjustments. And he could start promoting, let's say, because he had things from Islamic perspective that actually are more conducive to a better society better family, because promoting what the fifth sleeping with 50 Women imagine what you're actually doing to society what you're actually you help what father in his right
mind is going to let his daughter to be someone who's just test being test driven. Absolutely. So lineage. I mean, Islam came to protect lineage, how many legitimate children from these men responsibly they're going to go ahead and obviously to hook up usually around that cultures alcohol and drug and that's one interesting thing he doesn't promote alcohol. Yeah, but that's the culture you know, you to pick up a lot of times you're going to be in a club a lot of time, so you're not gonna be able to limit and control that anyways. It's just a dark hole of hedonistic cycle. hedonist hedonism psychological, imagine all the psychological effects that are happening to the male and the
female 100%. So he can What do you think he can start shifting his show towards more he can start promoting polygyny? What's wrong with that? Yeah, nothing is wrong with that. And I think also, that is something to learn because he's in the circle of our brother also entertains you, obviously, obviously, reach heights that many would say so many men would never be able to, in today's time, from the fame from the actually the he captivated the minds and the hearts of the youth. Right? You find like, literally nine years old, or even 14, they actually what's your color, if you will? Gotti right, because they have heavily influenced. And I think he's a guy who I'm assuming that he's much
wealthier and had reached higher fame. And he found out that Islam is the way and he he took a drastic turn to actually promoting Islam and promoting Brotherhood's and promoting things that they are good for society after analyzing he's a smart guy. His father is a smart guy. And he was analyzing that, hey, I had I had slept with all these girls, I have all this money, I fly private. I'm the man. I'm told, I can fight. I did all these things. But I'm still empty was the solution. Unlike Dan Bilzerian, who went to talk about surfing and all that stuff. He actually went and said, Who created this world? Why am I in this vehicle that we call life? Where is it heading? If someone
will grab you and put you on an aeroplane or even in a train, you will ask the question. Hey, where are we heading? What is this direction? What are we doing? Why Why am I here? But no one is actually pushing the envelope to ask the question. And for brother Myron, I would say faryal Heidi,
Adele Hello, hi, Erica Valley, the person who shows you goodness is if he did it. So you will get all this great things switch in the message but understanding that it's almost like you have to have the intentions right in the middle man who didn't yet will equilibria in men, our intentions are the standard or the you have to renew your intentions for goodness. You have to understand Listen, all this life one day I'm going to die I have all this content that is promoting all these things and he's going to live forever and people were gonna go for in a cage. Why don't I promote understand the the solution that Islam provides? Okay, you have a man who's just wanting to have more than one
because biologically a man is designed to be polygynous. Okay? Well, we have polygyny, we can promote that you can explain maybe to the brothers and also to the sisters, how is it high value man should precept or any man who is willing to take on more wife is okay for him. And he can be successful with that. Absolutely. He's got some good scotch, he's really well spoken, he's charismatic. He's, he's, he's smart, right? And he has all this characteristics that will help him, but he's already had the brand fresh and fit, right? So he'll be able to promote a positive message that actually help people come closer to Allah, because there is nothing better as a job or a career
than actually calling people to, to the Creator. Right? Yeah. And that's what I think he should change his message to, or per se, at least just consider it a nice show. I saw him in one of the shows on rumble. And he was talking about his Islam and thinking that he knows that what he's doing, and this funny, but because you can see his genuine about knowing that whatever he's saying is not completely right, or even right. And he said, One day, I will do it, what that day could be your end date could be actually before that date that you decided. And one thing that I like to say, because they they preach the resilience and discipline and the go do attitude and having the
burden of performance. You have to be a logic to they are logical individuals that the word rational male, that's what is about it's all about using your logic. Yeah. I think that if you use your logic, you will realize that you actually a weak man, in a sense, I'm not calling him a weak man. But a weak man will actually know the truth and will deny it. And that's actually even with a cup bill, right? Someone who is arrogant, right? Because your you deny knowledge and you are gifted with knowledge. And I think there is nothing greater than the gift that Allah let us know who he is. Allah could have in his in his infinite wisdom to let this bowl just spinning around the Sun around
itself, and not even let us know who he is. But he gifted us with that gift. And we're all as I said to brother, Munir, the thing that most Muslim brothers don't really think about is not to actually go to just Jana because Jana is one of his creations, but actually is to see him to see Allah Subhan Allah azza wa jal and that's the ultimate goal in sha Allah Allah so I think promoting a positive message would do much good one to himself and second to other people. I've had these brothers and I look at it like these are signs I've had Tamkang good friend have entertained he was Meyer interviewed him he's also pushing this talking about this lifestyle and whatnots haram and all the
other things that go along with it Jules shows and Tonio shoot Yes, he's also was on his show and he's talking about this life of debauchery what Yes, and these are signs for an individual there right in front of you. These are people you respect. Yeah. Who are non Muslim also? Yes. And now they're coming out and speaking out against this. So think you know, you want to really reflect on why deny now, this is a beautiful point that you guys, you know, are making this truth is coming to you. If you're someone who's rational thinking, and I've heard them talk, I heard him in particular talk against alcohol. I talking pretty much you know, in a in a very staunch way against alcohol, so
don't get now be men enough. Now when someone is telling you about fornication about Zina, which Allah is legislating that people feel burned in ovens man for this is something very dangerous, right? This is something that you should really take seriously because you're now jumping over a law and say no, this is good. Allah saying this is evil. Yes. And you're helping to destroy society and families and whatnot. And we can go on and unpackage all the different devastated harms that comes I think it would say the conqueror of Jerusalem
So Dean up up he said there's a quote by him famous quote saying if you want to destroy a nation of society, make Zina
appear Mahmoud to wrap up, imagine so you're helping us this, instead of being a real solution that law had given to mankind. So you don't want to look to smash you because of this now, no, I don't want to play around you don't want to do what is called a Jehovah, Marcia, which making the sin public. That's one of the most dangerous things that I see a lot of brothers and a lot of even sisters in some videos. They ask them how they met and they were talking about being in the club and all that stuff. And you don't have to say that you don't have to mention your ma RC. You don't have to be talking about it. And so many men they get into a conversation about talking about their past.
Don't talk about it now you moved on. You don't have to mention the girl's name. You don't have to be you never know maybe she now she's a better Muslim. Maybe you are a bad
are Muslim. So Jehovah moss is really, really dangerous and Allah will will put you in front and you will literally be asked, because I think that is something to do with the hereafter, they would have a special treatment in which is not that great, it's not. And one thing also is anything you leave for the sake of Allah, Allah is always going to give you something better. And so I think for a lot of people, including potentially our brother, Myron, including potentially many people watching this is they become addicted to not only the Zina itself, but also the identity that they've created around being somebody who promotes it, and is frequently engaging in Zina. Because they're trying to
attract a certain type of person, so they can have more than a right. And so it's important to be able to let go of that emotional attachment to that identity, and start to realize that there is a much better identity, a much better version of you that you can become this infinitely more fulfilling that emptiness you're currently experiencing as a result of the Cinna based identity that you're trying to promote with your brand, with your actions to the women themselves. So you can have more than all this stuff. You have to leave and I know it's the hardest thing, but just consider the alternative. Where's your life going? You're going to be 50 6070 Still doing this? You don't think
you are but we'll even make it there like brother have seen said your time could be running out. But I also want you to consider the alternative which is what if you continue to live your 30s 40s 50s but you get on the dean, you start to actually be on Serato selfie and the straight path where you are following the commandments from God himself who created you who sent down the manual. The Scripture within which there is no doubt the Koran if you actually follow just literally give it a try. I know this sounds like you know a funny way of saying it. Some people might criticize, give it a try. No, you must give it all away. No, literally if committing to Islam fully is too much for you
because you're addicted to Zina and your identity is wrapped up in Zina. Try it for a short period of time, try getting on the dean for a week, a month, a year, whatever you can commit to. And I promise you, I guarantee I swear to Allah that your life is gonna become so much better that you'll wonder why it took you so long. Your only regret you're going to have is that you didn't realize this sooner, your life's gonna be so much better even when you leave all the things and Allah is gonna give you something better try one. Subscribe five times they try one time a day, go to Joomla try Joomla just go to do it commit. I mean, you should be somebody who's preaching discipline and
whatnot. And yeah, I like what agitator brother says. Follow the book. All right. Okay, so the book is saying to stay away from certain things stay away from certain things. We don't want to be hypocrites, right? So this is something that defines a high value, man. Absolutely. Yeah, that's the that's the number one thing is having a connection with your Creator and obeying your Creator. That's how you truly show your love and obedience. And are you are you imitating because this is what and Allah knows how we create a zoo? iannelli Massey who Bucha Huwa team in an ESA the things that men desire the most, most are one is our women. So I'll give you an avenue. Go ahead. And you
can go up to four, four, and whatnot. And this person are you imitating Dan, I don't think anybody's getting more hookups than than Dan Bilzerian. Right. Yeah. Sorry. Are you trying to compete with him? But he's telling you this intro he's telling you is the dark, it's him. He's coming out. It's like, these are signs that also for you to reflect over? Isn't that amazing? Like he's, he's worth I don't know how many hundreds of millions and he's talking about the things that make it happen simple things is surfing and whatnot hanging out with the boys. He's correct. He's not talking about still an empty thing is empty. He's like, it's empty. At the end, you can sit on the pillow at
night, and you're gonna say, What am I doing? Is this all and I'm gonna die. And most most people will actually fear death, when actually a Muslim indeed should welcome it in any time, right? Because this the attachment. And also, that's a really important point, if you call yourself a Muslim, Islam in the Arabic term is complete submission, a slumped over jacala complete submission, meaning that you submit to His orders, you submit to everything, you can just be like, yeah, let me let me take this from the book. Let me not let us do Xena here, you know, you have to take everything, you have to follow everything. Right? And I'm not saying like, if, if you're not
following all of it, leave it all. That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that you have to follow it all you have to see because if this is you, you thought this was beneficial. What makes you think that that's not really beneficial, because all of them are coming from the same? You know, source is Allah subhanaw is our God. So you have to take everything altogether, do not be just choosing this and choosing that and choosing this in a way and becomes like, this is a work of works to my advantage. But this one doesn't really because I really like that girl, and I'm looking at her and she actually looking really good. And she's coming to talk to me. So now everything all works
together. And as we said before changing the message will work massively. He's connected with some brothers that actually they were Western. He grew up as a Muslim in the household. And now they're coming on his show. Tell him that Islam is the way and that's a lot. Yeah, yes. And in some level is a coincidence. Yes, it's not and maybe that's that's Allah sending him these people saying like, hey, the truth is Islam and you are
from it and you have a huge platform, when you can have a great impact on not only the Muslim community, you can have a huge impact on non Muslims, because those are the people who are hurt basically the most, because they do not know any better. They have this. I would like to call it not the ability to question their epistemology and their persona epistemology is the, the study of or the coming to knowledge in a way, so they don't even sit and think why we're here. Why am I doing the things that I'm doing? Why am I fornicating? Is it good for me? Why am I drinking alcohol? Why am I not seeking something else? You sit down, you read you collect books, you just read as brother
money, just open just open the Quran is so easy, learn about the Muslims, try to not be a victim of this programming that Islam is bad is oppressive to women. And this, you know, this, all the man's are really aggressive. And they have but look at the word the most rapid growth of any religion is Islam. And the majority of people stay in their in their practice. And that's the beauty of it. So I think at the end of the day, he just had to sit down with himself and be absolutely honest, because a man who lies to himself will cheat anyone and a lot of people say I want an honest man and I'm honest and I'm completely sincere, but you fail in with the One who created you. So how sincere Are
you? On how honest Are you very deep so something to think about? And I like that and for for people who just accepted Islam you know, obviously step by step there's a difference you know, between you know, coming in and acknowledging I have to do this Yes, to become someone who is in line with my purpose, step by step. But now, if I am having a hard time implementing something, don't go in promoting the things that you're supposed to be staying away from and conceal the sins conceal it and seal it not now by day you send them by nighttime you're promoting it because you're spreading it to other people. So and then go ahead and keep turning back because Allah is the most loving the
most kind the Most Merciful keep turning back and step by step making progress to eventually you're away from the thing your way you're completely safe and you know you're establishing salah five times a day you love now doing the things because you see neither wisdom some things you know and anything that Allah had prescribed for us it's out of His mercy is good for us people don't it's good for us it's good for humanity find me one thing that Allah had ordained it's not good for us or He prohibited and now it's not something that's harmful. One might not know but things get uncovered you like wow, this is something that actually it's a blessing that we are told to stay away from it.
When Yes, yeah, we covered a lot bro this show loss can be a benefit to so many people. And where can people now if they want to go ahead and hook up with you guys and learn more on health and fitness? Yes, so I have an Instagram page of the modern Muslim man puts a lot of knowledge and you know tips that you can apply whether you're advanced whether you're beginner, so in sha Allah you can find me on Instagram we also have YouTube but Instagram I post every day so inshallah hopefully it's beneficial. You can find me on Instagram is who's seen Dark based YouTube as well. Tik Tok and I have two sites is one is arugula.com and another one is a prime tonics.com And that's where most
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