Shadee Elmasry – Anniversary of Badr w Abdullah Misra NBF 326
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I realized Smilla Rahmanir Rahim Al hamdu lillah wa Salatu was
Salam ala Rasulillah who other early he was happy here Woman Well
welcome everybody to the SOFIA society nothing but facts live
stream on a Wednesday which is the anniversary of the Battle of
budget in which we will inshallah today have Sheikh Abdullah
Macedon, and Chatelet, he he's got a new song which which we're going
to play it to me it was No, I didn't know it was that he had
this, but I'm I'm sending it to you right now. So you can load it
up. Alright, loaded up when he comes on and sha Allah. So in the
meantime, though, I want to we want to read today, the whole
do a recitation of what happened at Budds at the Battle of better,
but I want to read first something that a question that came up to me
about
saying the word Talak Is it sufficient? And the answer to that
is in the medical school, the answer is yes. Provided the
context indicates that you want to look, for example, saying the word
Tilak in this context means nothing
in terms of implications, okay, saying the word Talaq where there
is a BISAZZA meaning a context Okay, that's where it does count
as to luck. Okay, it does count us to luck. Let me read you the
concept here.
Darwin, have you ever thought of pavement as leaving pony in in
della bisol Tune alley, if a context would indicate that a Isla
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CHE che I will I will add for Karla de Wirkkala no way to add to
that because I will add first to Kofi Dalek. So if you need to have
a context to show that you didn't mean to Allah
Alright.
Alright. So otherwise if there is a context such as the two people
are fighting and the present Talaq
had happened, he didn't say I like it, or auntie Pollock is not
necessary. So you're arguing versus Talaq? Yaffe? So, that is
the main meaning of what the lb saw to lay or be assault on Are
they he got meaning that if there is a context, okay, that would
indicate that
all right.
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take her back or the third Tilak sunnah to Luxan is to say once you
do that three times, she is
also baton from you.
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Allah. So let's talk about let's we have you studying tidiness
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he's ready. Good. Good, good.
All right, let's start with
let's start with what actually happened in the battle about that
early on. Could you please send me open that book to the chapter on
but yeah, so today is the anniversary of the Wildcats about
the doors the actual occurrence of the Battle of beds last night was
the night of the Battle of beds. Meaning that last night was also
extremely important because it's a hub we're extremely nervous and
extremely upset about the potential not upset I shouldn't
say upset but nervous about what is about to transpire. So much so
that there is a narration from a companion said we slept that night
as if it's our last night.
Like this is our last night. And the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa
salam spent the entire
He didn't drop asleep
maybe slept only a small amount of time.
But he was up all night prank.
And Allah Tada gives us a very simple principle about bed. One
verse we get about the lessons of better Welaka nasaga Kumala who be
bedded in went to Adela.
We gave you victory at better
while you were meek.
That's the principle. When you're meek, Allah sends you hope.
But if you're arrogant, then you get no help. That's essentially
the rule of thumb. Well, who they the Battle of
the Battle of?
No, no, her name is opposite now. Battle of her name was the
opposite battle of her name. Agia if Agia bets calm, Kathrada, calm
falam Tony oncomine. Alicia.
Alright.
You loved your, your numbers, but it benefited you nothing.
It didn't help you. Right, it didn't free you from the enemy. So
this is where its reliance upon material or material forces is the
biggest problem.
Whereas reliance upon when you're meek, you can't rely on your
forces. So you have to rely on Allah. What's hard now, but
possible is to have forces and rely on Allah, to have strength
and to rely on Allah at the same time. And that's where many many
people have trouble doing. So if you see these two edges, even
there, you have Sahaba, they saw their numbers they didn't rely on
a lot, not that they didn't, like officially didn't rely on Allah,
but internally the way that they were and, and many of them were
new Sahabi to literally three, four days old Sahabi. So when you
have, for example, half of the army is from Mecca, and half the
army is very have this false sense of security, it impacts the whole
army, right?
So those new Muslims, we would attribute it to them, we don't
attribute this to the veteran Sahaba because that's an it would
be an accusation of the prophets to be of them. Right? The new
Muslims who barely had any time to be with within Islam, there were
literally days and weeks as Muslims only they had a false
sense of security. And that spread to the whole army.
To the point that at 118, the
opposing army, which was the people of thought if the tribe of
F which is known as the bene thief, they penetrated the entire
army and reach right in front of the profit slice on them.
And they're the profit had around him his the debates, because the
profit used to divide up the army based upon
families
to give extra motivation to fight harder. Because fighting alongside
a stranger you may not give your life for a stranger. Yes, you're
supposed to be fighting for the for the sake of Allah. That's the
initial intent. But there are multiple intentions at play here
too. And all of them are righteous did not the prophesy. centum say
whoever is killed, trying to protect himself or his wealth
is a shaheed. So if I die, someone's trying to attack my
brother and I step in front of him, I and I get killed him. So
he, someone's trying to steal my car and I get killed. I'm sure
he'd so all these are righteous intentions. So the Prophet
multiplied all these rights in that sense. So yes, you're going
on Jihad visa vie Dilla, to spread the word of Allah, but also we're
going to put you next to your family
is you won't want your nephew to be killed. You don't want your
brother to be killed. You don't want your father to be killed. So
you have multiple reasons to fight harder. So the Prophet peace be
upon him. If you notice in the FETs of Mecca, the hadith of Ibn
Ibis with Abu Sofia and sorry Ibis with Abu Sufian, he says that each
strive with the clan was coming with their own flag.
So like, a whole clan, and they had their own personal flag,
right, their own family clan flag, because they would want to protect
each other at the same time. So it's multiple good intentions
here. And so when these people arrived at the province, I sent
him who was there, all that had bait,
all that had baits around the Prophet sallallahu sallam, and I
believe wasn't it. Zubaydah
was amongst them because he is a cousin through the mother. Right?
He's the cousin his mother is the daughter of the mortality. So
that's why he was there. Right? So he was he is related to optimal to
live through the mum through his mother. So that's essentially
that's what happened at
bedtime is that they didn't have any of these numbers. So Allah
makes it easy.
Easy for you now to rely on him because you have no choice. This
is the initial reliance on Allah is when you rely on him when you
have no choice, the highest reliance is to rely on Him whether
you have a choice or not. In other words, it were the illusion of
choice. Anything else is an illusion. So that's a very lofty
level, that person is at whether completely, they've surrounded by
the amenities of power, yet they still managed to rely solely on a
laptop.
So in the Battle of budgeted, they never, they didn't have anything.
And the maximum that one had was a sword, and a shields maximum. And
most of them had a small knife or a stick or a staff or nothing at
all, because they were going to to overtake 50 to 60 merchants, or 50
to 60 merchants. They're not heavily armed. I'm sure they had
arms, right but not heavily armed. Maybe one or two of were security
guards, let's say that had 10 security guards. Well, you have
300 people, right? So they went to overtake that and that was
supposed to be an an easy job. And it was supposed to be retribution
for all the wealth stolen from them from Mecca, and the unsought
or part of it too because the unsought are the ones helping them
or hedges. The unsought are the people of Medina, the mohajirs are
the people who came from Mecca to Medina, they lost all of their
wealth. Now the unsought why are they deserving of the state? They
didn't get to have their wealth stolen? Right. So why are they
worthy of going to bed and and getting this caravan?
The reason they're worthy is that didn't they support them? Why just
when they came? Didn't they give like half their money in some
cases? So the unsolved spent a lot of money on them will hajus.
So just when you look at it as retribution, yeah, they deserve
some two, because they spent a lot on the hedges. And so that was the
initial
coming out. And you notice that there is always a mix between Dean
and dunya here, right? It's not it is a mix between Dean and dunya
these things overlap. It's not just one or the other. Right and
our religion is a practical religion. It's the religious
that's supposed to be lived. It's not just a lofty ideals in the
sky. lofty ideals in the sky, they never work. Best example being
Marxism. He has these lofty ideas in the sky. Well, two generations
into one generation into Marxism. When people don't they're like not
buying into it. Stalin had to kill everyone to make sure they buy
into it. So the Dean comes with a very practical
approach to it. All right, our guest is here shaqab Dola miss it
up. Let's bring him on. Welcome to the nothing but facts live stream
for the second time
by going to LA Veta. Cats. How are you? Handling Dr. Shetty? How you
doing? Are you back in Toronto? I'm back in Toronto. Yes, under
that good, good. Mashallah. Very good, very good. So the second
time you're on but this time you're on for a different reason
you're on because you wrote a new chapter in your album, and this
specifically on the battle of better so let's zoom out and share
with everyone who don't know that you have a musical background and
that you are the author of these of what is kind of be like a
how do I put it in epic series of poems that are singable
that are also can be taught in schools and taught to people in
Holocaust and misogyny.
Hamdulillah I mean, yeah, it's a mutton. It's so because it's the
knowledge base podcast, Mr. Rahman Rahim, I will say that I,
internally I define it as a method. But the way it comes out
in the modern world is as an A sheet or a song. Yeah. And we've
always been comfortable balancing between the two of those. So
nowadays, you know, whenever in the Muslim world whenever you say,
you know, oh, yeah, you know, the border. And people say we talk
about border, you know, they don't know that necessarily. That didn't
turn border garbage on me Muslim. Yeah. When you start thinking, Oh,
no, yeah, suddenly was and even that's not actually part of the
original. Yeah. Once you start seeing that, there's, oh, yeah, of
course. Of course, of course, then they'll say I'm into that curry,
you know, then they'll still say, you know, and then if you tell
them, you know, their commentaries on that, that's not in the realm
of the average person just knows it's a song that can be sung in
beautiful ways. And it's something you see in a group. But the
tolerable are, there's commentaries on it, they're
studying it, every word of it, and they're using it as you know, you
sign it as proof sometimes when you want this thickness, on some
point, you say, you know, some some line from the Buddha. And it
started with the Sierra song for me back in 2007 2008. From Kareem
and then to Jordan. So this has been some time in the making
hamdullah the idea of
Combining the kind of the musical background from before I was
Muslim with the knowledge and the and the traditional teaching
knowledge. So the Sierra song is the general it's about 15 chapters
or 12 chapters. And that's the Kalasa of the Sierra, right? With
with a twist. So yes, it's, you know, 1314 chapters, but the
difference is this.
I have, and I'm not saying you know that I thought of this. But
in the English language, I don't think anyone's done a Syrah of the
past, present, and future. So the contention is this, it's the
entire syrup, according to the authentic kind of sources. But it
also includes your future, your present relationship with the
prophets.
How are you interacting with the right now there's a whole chapter
about that. And what is he going to do for you in the future?
Because only if you understand past, present, and future, can you
put all three together and realize no one has done more for us than
Rasulullah sallallahu? It was. We often think of Syrah as a
biography of someone who has lived in pasture. Yes. And I thought
that that was not the right way to teach Sierra in the modern
context, which people need to know you got to live in relationship
with those who, and you haven't seen nothing yet. If you think
you've done he's done everything for you wait until the hereafter.
So?
Yeah, that's a great point. That's a great point. And then now you're
you're gonna take sections from that and expand it into its own
song.
That's what I wanted to do. Remember, this is 15 years ago,
right? Yeah. Yeah, built 15 years ago. So I had originally thought
of doing that. And so this is where the battle of other song is,
like, you know, I didn't I didn't want I think, on Mirage, Mirage
long time ago, doing a Molad song I would have loved to do but it's
those are hard to do.
You know, it's a lot, a lot of spiritual meanings, but not as
much ilmi details to unpack. Right. So the Battle of button was
one one where you have a you have a narrative in front of you. And
that narrative can be that you can see the narrative, and then also
add the lessons at the end for future generations. So this is
going to be very easy for kids to
have it playing constantly, and they'll memorize the theater by
this. Now, one thing I noticed about the bed the theater song
that's different from the bed the song is that the theater song has
a chorus to it of vicar of Lila illAllah Muhammad Rasul Allah,
is there a same thing for bed that I'm trying to think what what
words can fit in their? No, so the Syrah song that the butter, the
chorus, is, the Battle of butter was fought on a fateful day
between chicken Hawk only one can have its way, with the help of a
law the Muslims overcame. And from that day on, everything would
change. And by putting that chorus, you know, things
appropriately, we programmed our minds, right, everything grabs
your mind. So the whole point of that course, is to put in your
mind what brothers stood for, and that it wasn't about like, you
know, we can say it was about oh, you know, it was about many
different aspects of, you know, anthropology. No, it was Huck and
bottom. Yeah, golfer, you know, Eman and shirk was the most
central concept. There wasn't like an economic, you know, disparity,
you know, and a natural revolution that came out of that. Yes, that
was obviously an aspect of the poor. Well, hygiene as you were
just talking about before. But the real thing is this idea of getting
trained in your mind to realize there's there's Huck and his
bottle, and those two things aren't they will, eventually they
can live together if there's tolerance, but bottle does not
actually tolerate hop. It's not the other way around, actually.
Yeah, it's not the other way around. And then then that forces
oppression which causes a clash, and when Muslims are patient,
there's an overcoming but it's not that it's not. It's there as a
spiritual moral teaching. Not necessarily it's not about a war
teaching. Yeah, that's not what it's about at all. It's learning
your history.
So you can be proud of it. So it's not you're you're reclaiming it
rather than allowing other people to talk about it. And when we talk
about the the economic element, you have to ask what was the
origin of the oppression in the first place? They were not
oppressing them, because for no reason they're pressing them
because of their toe heat. So the economic element is a branch of
the toe heat of the hop versus about that element. Yeah, because
once the citizens the thing once the towhees off. Once you're not
until heat, all the other oppression stem from that. You see
all boom in the world comes from the greatest dome, right? Which is
not knowing Allah subhanaw taala is your Creator once once that's
in line, you have a hope to put everything else in place. Right?
And so yeah, all the other oppressions came out of out of
their opposition out of that and be and if they had, if they hadn't
said Leila, they would have the wealth would have been would not
have been stolen and they wouldn't have been kicked out of Mecca, or
expelled from so. Exactly. Yeah, exactly.
And it's the exact same thing we repeat. I think the reason why
after 15 years I was like I said to the smell, I said, You got to
sing this first I wanted to sing it. And then he's like, no, no,
no, I want you to sing it and I'll back you up in the chorus but
Are we going what's given what's going on in Gaza? Leaving your
homes leaving your wealth impossible odds This is a song for
right now today Sao Paulo Sivan all right let's take it to us take
a take us to it. Let's listen to it. Oh are we we're gonna be able
to hear it here good
none of you just gonna play this button now he thought you're gonna
do it live No, you're just gonna play that button
hit the play button
yeah
all right go
there was
on a fateful day between church
only one can have its way with the help of
Muslims over came and from that day on, everything would change in
the second year of hedge on the
lawn near the wells.
At the break of dawn, some songs pagans across the barren sand
driven from their homes it was time to take the stand. They came
with 313 of his best
friends
was hanging
out
was
on a fateful day this feature can
have its way
from that day,
everything would change
the champions
versus the opponents with their swords
down
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frogs in
the sky
on a fateful day between shirt and
one good habits way with the help of a lot systems over came and
from that day on, everything will change.
For
the only things they saw in the battle who had the Prophet winces
great
his religion on that day
those who believe Rosie
was born on a fateful day the teacher
wanted habits
of pain and from that day on, everything will change.
By that base
times the believers must remain steadfast strong strength
stand for truth and justice every week
can turn
this on and
it moves me on for eternity.
A game it passes down through the ages project.
This your profit is free
It's
so loud that
I was beautiful mashallah is let me ask you Is this on YouTube yet
or, or well it's coming out on YouTube inshallah I mean the live
now this is on YouTube and
Mercy's one is on YouTube but our music video it's a lyric video is
just about to finish up should be on my show on Friday we have
Friday mashallah So, so this isn't around yet this is just yesterday
was the first time you played it in public? Yes, that was a that
was a world Subhanallah rockin year and this is a gift. This is a
gift to all the people and nothing but fat but facts podcast and your
viewers, who I love very much, mashallah because they love you so
much.
And so they can go to if they want to download this PDF for free. It
is the Battle of brother.com.
All right, let's put that he's gonna put that in right here, get
the PDF. So you can follow it. Follow along when you when you
hear it, the Battle of bedroom.com. And eventually it's
going to be on what is that going to be its own YouTube channel, or
Las mouse channel. Yes, Mel has his channel because he sang the
song. And I'll have it on my channel as well just as part of
the work. But yeah, you'll be able to hear the tune. But in a choral
singing environment, like in a group singing environment. And for
memorization purposes, you probably won't be able to imitate
Helios mouse version. So you have to do it in an in shad format.
always sang the song, I think in in Schad format. And when it went
to the SML he did a professional kind of artistic format. So if you
want to, when you get that PDF, you can you can share it with all
the Islamic schools and Holocaust and everything families. And then
you know, sing it together as a group, for example. Tell us a bit
about SML Is he from Minnesota? Or is he from Toronto? Or?
No, no, he's from he's from Guelph. It's a small town outside
of Toronto. And yes, he's have some Somali heritage, Mashallah.
So he's, he's, you know, because I have the artistic side and the
kind of, you know, the, you know, Imam scholarly side, but I like I
get along a lot with the people of art, to be honest. And, and so you
know, he just became a friend. And I went to record some my own
machines about other issues with my own voice. And then I said,
Look, I got Zane Vika to do Syrah song, because he was the right
voice to deliver that song. And I said, I want this song. I want you
to try it. And, you know, in the beginning, it's like, you know,
what is it really I don't know. And then he got it, he fell in
love with it. And then one night in Ramadan, last week, we just, I
came after prayers, I just came over there. And we just stayed up
all night. And I'm just listening to him. I'm just kind of guiding
him on how to, you know what this means and how to do this. And
here's the emotions, I would actually walk him through the
emotion of the song, how I intended it. And he's a spiritual
singer himself. And I like that I like to choose machine singers who
are spiritual, mashallah is vocal only. So all of the sounds that
you heard? The marching is is is you know, everything is vocal, you
know, so the horses are the who's or the horses. That's all that's
all vocal or natural sounds. Mashallah. Good. So, he so he is a
Toronto native, and that's that's basically how you know Him who
came up with the melody you or him? I came up with the melody 15
years ago, the melody.
Yeah, yeah. So I came up with the whole song and the melody, I went
to record it myself. And I said, Why don't you try it now his voice
is of a higher pitch than mine. And he's, he's a genius at
producing. And so he was able to do the vocal layers and, and for
Baraka add me to the chorus as well. Mashallah. And so, yeah, he
made a special on that. That's really good, really good. Now,
let's talk about the battle. And I want to talk about similar what I
talked about yesterday and celebrate mercy there's, there's a
mental element to this battle.
And there was a, there was optimism given to the Muslims and
there was a Tisha that many people don't know about, that was given
to the kuffar to share on the bad news or the bad omen was the dream
of the prophets sent upon Yes, yes, Prophets aunt had a dream,
that she had a dream in which a man came down. And if I'm not
mistaken, in this dream, man came into Mecca and slit the nose of a
camel
and then began shouting. A calamity has come back. Yeah. And
then destruction is saying the word destruction. Then he went to
the other side, and he did the same thing until he did it all
around the city of Mecca.
At that point, she told her
abbess
her his her brother, can I best
and best then said don't tell anyone got this dream?
him. At this point nothing has happened. There's no word no news
of Muslims army coming or anything.
And so of course, like these things, word spread. By the middle
of the day, Abuja had was saying I best what's going on? You have
another prophet and your family. Right? You have another one, tell
him the future and your family. He says, I bet.
If you don't, if this doesn't come true, your whole family will be
stamped liars to us.
Because now you're okay for your first year, your nephew wouldn't
believe him in the first place.
And now
your aunt's your your sister saying this. So at best says he
spent the whole day the next two days in his house, very upset,
very upset at what Abijah had just said to him, first of all, but
also very upset at the whole situation. On the third day.
A man comes into the city with news that your caravan is about to
be overtaken.
And so they had this negativity this to share home. That this is
what I want to point to the mental element when you go into battle of
optimism or negativity. And you see that although the power
dynamic was off, then the mental
plane was also off in reverse.
So what's the opposite? Now for the Muslims? This is a numbers
every Muslims got to remember because people get this confused.
Allah promised the Sahaba 1000 Angels will support you. That one
should be enough, right? One Angel can destroy a whole city, as St.
Jude was at when the Prophet asked him, How do you destroy a city? He
said I put it on the tip of my Wink showed them and then flipped
it. That's how simple it is a city, not an army. So 1000 Angels
then 3000 Angels then 5000 Angels, so it's different upon whether
it's 5000 Total or 9000 total?
Shift? What have you heard about that? Between 1000 total? Or 5000?
Or 9000? Yeah, so this is the thing, you know, there'll be
there'll be differences of opinion, if whether Allah is
saying I'm going to, you know, difficult, like I'll increase use
or add the increment to make it a total, or is it that this than
this than this? And the whole point is, it's Catherine?
Catherine, because at the end of the day, I mean, I'm not saying
that that's the right answer. But the point is you feed up Catherine
it's like so much that as you said one angel can destroy an entire
city or the world leader. Yeah. And and then it's important to
realize as well, that although there were when the angels came
down and he realized Salam is described as riding on a piebald
horse, and they have steeds in multicolored turbans, Musa we mean
they're marked with the marks of turbans, and they're stooping
down. And you know, the prophet Gibreel Ali Salam, he's spurring
on his team, whether you call it Jae Hoon, if I'm not mistaken, he
said he was saying, you know, onward and the heads of the
kuffaar would just be like rolling off their bodies.
Right, some of them just be struck dead. And, you know, one of his
hobby was trying to pursue one of the Mexicans after overpowering
him, and the man dropped right in front of him. And he couldn't even
see what happened. But the angels did not come to fight. Actually,
they came to strengthen the believers. Because when you're
when you're in a scrap with a bullet, and your big brother comes
in, you just you just get that little extra bit of
confidence. So support you the job was done by the believers, it was
not done by the angels, the angels just came to make them realize,
don't think you're alone, somehow. And that's why the the support
comes in waves. So one, the first announcement was 1000, angels, the
next announcement 3000, angels. Next announcement 5000. So when it
comes in, in numbers like this, or in, in waves like this, each time
it strengthens your morale each time you feel more and more
supported. And that's one of the signs of the son of Allah to Allah
is that he gives something in different amounts, not all at
once. Because all at once, you're just going to get good news once.
Whereas if it comes in parts, you get good news multiple times, you
end up being on a roll. Right? And also, as the battle gets heavier
and thicker, the amount of subber required steadfastness required
increases the so so that, you know when you're looking across through
each other. It's one thing it's a war of nerves, then you get into
the hand to hand then you get it and then it really starts to you
know,
you know, and mesh. And that's the hardest part because this battle,
you know, when I asked people about the battle, what's the
hardest part of this battle? They said it was the first time or they
were very small numbers, or you didn't they weren't well equipped.
They were scared they were pressed. Actually, I don't
personally think alone was best. I don't think that was the hardest
thing about this battle. It was not the numbers. It was not the
hardest thing of the battle was that you looked across the other
side and you saw your dad on the other side. So you saw your
brother on the other side. I try and you know you came at each
You know, like they came at each other and there were cases where
they had to fight and, you know, finish one another. And people saw
their own flesh and blood for the first time. It's very easy to face
an enemy you don't know. But the coloration after their own family
members, that's why the hand to hand combat initially, when you
know Shiva and Autobot, when they come out to challenge from the
Quraysh. And Muslims, the three unsolved jumped out right away.
One of the prophets I'm so much, even though they did not promise
to go out and fight for him, they promised to defend him. So didn't
have to go. So but three unsolved jumped out right away, to
challenge them. But what did the Kure say? They said, A Kiefer key
wrong. Look how much respect the Arabs had even as enemies. They
said, You are our match, and you're honored people respect 100
people and our match a key factor.
But you want our kin send our blood isn't about us in our
family. We have a bone to pick, don't give us the answer. We have
no problem with you. And that's where the prophets I send them
this is the Tet Look at this. If you had to pick three people to
fight you, I pick you know, people, three people you don't
relate it to. Why would you pick your uncle, your own cousin
because the sacrifice was honor solipsism the most. That's why
said Ali hums our leader.
That's why they went out knowing that your own flesh and blood he
started with them. Because you would watch him go hand to hand
combat. Everyone's watching one man survives, one dies.
That was the whole miracle of this battle. No wonder angels came down
here. You're willing to go against your flesh and blood for the Huck
Cymbala?
So tell me which Sahabi had a father or a brother or a son?
Let's start from the all of them. Yeah. So all of them hat right. So
let's look at the stories of Google beta. It's, it's narrated
in his his his biography. I'll play that.
On one of the 10 problems paradise. There was a man in a
helmet that constantly was pursuing him on the battlefield.
And he kept on avoiding to find that person and go somewhere else.
But this person kept on finding him and striking and finally had
no choice but to put him down. When he took off the helmet. It
was his own father Subhan Allah.
So Allah VEDA what he did for the Rasul Simon for Dean is actually
to do that to his own father. himself. Yeah, years after, when
Abu Bakr Daniel and his his Sunday. I forget, I think I
believe there's I think I forget his other matter, Muhammad, but I
think he's up there. And if I'm not mistaken, his son became
Muslim, and said, you know, that that day, according to the
reports, that day, I saw you on the battlefield, but I just
avoided you out of respect for you. And I said, what, if I would
have seen you, I would have gotten to first SubhanAllah. So far,
Musab even where his brother passed away, in that. I mean,
there was a hobby. Remember when because the bodies were thrown
into the wells, the bodies of the Mushrikeen when they died, 70 of
them in the return to the wells. And the the I believe hung up who
else was it? That there were some Sahabi that were just looking
downcast? Because this is of their own family members who tried to
kill them.
And the prophets I think came and he comforted them. He's like, I
know how hard this is to look at your family member. Like, why
didn't you just say interesting? Why don't you just say that? Why
didn't you just say it, you know, and so the problem is I'm
comforted them. But what it did was it made the connection of
Eman, stronger than the connection of blood. You know, blood is
thicker than water. Yeah. Eman is thicker than blood. Right? So now
they're saying you gave all these things. That's when the Sahaba
really became a unit with Rasul Allah says Allah, because you're
willing to go against your people. That's it, you're in it with a
prophet for good. So
tell us about the time afterwards the Prophet sallallahu Sallam laid
the leaders out to did he lay out the leaders, everybody and spoke
to them. So what he did initially was when he got on the
battlefield, he pointed out the mantra of every single every
single person when they were where they would fall short brokerage.
So he walked around and he said when he he said, This person is
gonna fall here this person is gonna fall here this person fall
and the battlefields blank, it's empty. And then when he asked when
that when the battles when that when that when the sides came out,
and he saw who was standing there who may have been caliph, Abu Joe,
like they brought all their top people out, only Abu Sufyan
was not there. And
of course I would have wasn't there because he didn't want to
attend. So he sent someone in place and he was older anyways.
But also Fianna was with the caravan. So it's very lucky
obviously piano wasn't there that day. Maybe that's why he'd written
for him
later, but then the prophets I saw them when he saw which Kure should
come out. These are this is not your scrappers, these are your and
he said, All Muslims, the Quran has thrown out its liver like it's
given out all of its Muslim people, people. Yeah, these are
people, right and this is where Subhan
Allah wear a bra management oath was standing beside, you know, in
the battle lines standing beside these two young boys, right? And
these are the two teenagers you could say. And the teenagers said
Uncle show us one of them says Uncle, which one is Abu Jamal. And
why do you know who are Jehovah's? And he said, Because I heard he
disrespected the rustle Sighs
Alright, fine. He's that one over there. Cuz he's I'm sorry boys
didn't never seen this.
And the other side? He said Uncle, uncle. Yeah, which was a Bucha has
shown me. And he's like, Well, what are you gonna do about that?
He's like, called that He disrespected with some losses. I'm
still getting that one over there. And he was saying that I was so
unconfident that I had two teenagers beside me. Right? We
want you on strong people beside you. This is those two people ran
like hawks trait towards
survival, right. And so the prophets, I saw them when all when
all all was laid out. He was addressing them. And he was saying
that, you know, the promise of a law we have found has come true.
Have you now found the promise of a law to come true or not? And
this is where it is to have ask, while you're speaking to dead
people.
Why are you doing that? But of course, there are suicides, I've
never done anything with other Kasha right? That he does anything
that is useless. So he said no, no, they can hear me just as well
but you perceive it to be near me
teaching
you the point, but it's a point of a point of the unseen the nature
of the creation and you mentioned that they they the prophesy centum
said they brought out their their livers meaning they brought out
their best they all have their big leaders are here. Yeah. That
is one of the possibly one of the wisdoms that they were so meek,
the 300 were so meek that the leaders felt this is easy
pickings, right? There's no risk for us here. Right? It was
supposed to be a cakewalk. That's why would you have said if we go
there and they don't show up to fight because they actually
thought the muscles wouldn't show up to fight. Yeah, they said we're
still going to have a budget for three days. We're going to drink.
We're going to make merry and our girls are going to save girls are
gonna dance for us. We're just gonna festival. So that's their
mindset. Yeah, they're coming to have a drunken party. And the
Muslims are coming for survival. Look at the two different
mindsets, no wonder things, things things took place. And you know
about the rainfall that took place as well, right before you know
that the natural the natural signs as well. The rain comes right
before the battle to firm up the Earth, on the side of the Muslims.
Because, you know, we run in sand run on the beach is tired, very,
very tiring, and your feet are sinking in and everything. And the
Muslims had only two horsemen
compared to uncountable on the other side, two horses. And so the
rain on the other side made it difficult for them. It is slightly
like you know, muddy and slimy and for the other Sahaba and they
slept the entire night with a full sleep.
How do you do that the night before? Yeah, for kina comes down.
What tell us about the parallels between this and David and
Goliath?
SubhanAllah. This is this is more epic than David and Goliath. This
is more apt. There's no doubt about that. I mean, with all due
respect to Prophet doubt that a sandwich is an amazing thing. But
remember with that, it was this idea of, you know, proving who
doubt is to everyone. But he didn't have a personal stake in
fighting the Philistine, Goliath. He didn't have a personal stake in
it. And he used his his sling according to how the stories go.
And, you know, slew slew Goliath, and showed that he has a wider
range of Tofik and strategy and thinking than what is there. That
was That was amazing. But the promotion that he got was that he
kind of rose up in the ranks, right with Saudi Army assault.
Now, that being said, I have a brother is the same thing is David
against Goliath. But it's even more than that, because you've
taken every single thing from these people.
And your own family members are against you. And it's actually
because of your event itself. So it's not just a clash, because two
civilizations are really close to each other. Okay, it's not just
because like, it's tribal warfare here. It's not it's one tribe.
Yeah, we call it Quraysh. But we don't realize the coloration on
the other side, too. Yeah. It wasn't.
So then,
entire civilizations were born out of these two,
right? Out of the after a David and Goliath his battle. Yeah, it
took some time, but eventually saying the deadwood became king.
After 10 years, he became kink.
And then a whole new era was opened up for them. But it really
started with that battle. Same you say about the Battle of better,
right at right after that, you can really start to tell that there's
going to be a line in the sand here and eventually one of the one
is going to overtake the other. Right, exactly. And so right from
that battle alone, it just it just changed everything. As I say. From
that day on, everything would change because from that day on
the Muslims no longer
saw themselves as weaklings as meek weaklings, because number of
before that time, they had been commanded, as while they were
citizens in Mecca, they were not allowed to physically resist the
prophesy. Someone would walk by amount of vinyasa and his family
being tortured. And he wouldn't come in and start like, you know,
they could have done that. They said, No, he's he had to exert in
the patience. And once sad even of your class, who's 18 years old, he
became Muslim. He took a jawbone of a camel, and he's one of the
Quraysh over the head made him bleed. So prophesy found them. He
forbade him from doing that. He said, What do you think? This is
what we're doing? So they only did that once they were a polity on
their own. And that way, you know, they had they had a full right,
you know, morally, legally, spiritually, to resist this type
of thing as a policy that separated there was no there was
no 100 there was no other or like, yeah.
Well, who are who are taken as captives. We know the story about
that there were captives taken. Then, there was a debate on what
to do with the captors. But who were the Do we know who the
captives were? There were seven days there were they say 70 were
killed 70 were taken captive. Of course, that number 70 and Arabic
denotes plenty, right? A lot. And we know that night that night that
passed those captives again, your binding spotlight, I believe it
was we'll start with an old man who walked by and saw his own
brother was captivated was subversive. I forget who it was
and he said he looked at his captor and his brother said, you
know you're gonna free me right, brother. And he said to the Muslim
brother was kept captured and he said, tie his bonds really tight.
Oh, you
mean stick to get him free Savonarola. He's you're showing?
No, you're my brother. I'm soft towards you. But now you came out
to kill people. You came out to fight them? No now. But look on
the other side. Look at the softness. Rasulullah says hello in
the night.
In his tent, he hears the moans and the groans of his uncle are
baffled. Because bonds are too tight.
You can hear it. You know he's here because he's he's his uncle's
elder to invite a few years. And he's doing something.
Oh, you know what, you know, a bass just came out. He didn't come
out. Because he wanted to fight the Muslims. In fact, some Allah
must say he was a Muslim even from that time, some say it was.
Okay. But the point was, he came out because he had to come out
because the whole society was saying, all right now where do you
stand on this? Right? So he came out almost like it out of shame
that he had to go there, obviously not trying to fight. And so he's
his bonds are too tight, sometimes too tight. So the person couldn't
sleep, because he heard the groans of his uncle from his tent. And he
asked us a hobby, can you please loosen his bonds? And he said, he
asked, and they loosen the blinds of Alaska, because he knows he's
not one of those people who's a betrayer, or against the Muslims,
the prophesy seven as we know, it's one of the most emotional one
that you know, and I know is that the prophesy sounds own son in law
was taken as a character, his own son in law was taken as a captive.
And we know the story that as all of the Sahaba so they decided what
to do, I'll do a pause for this. They said, Should we execute? Or
should we free them? Should we ransom them? What should we do?
And the prophets Allah made, you know, made, mashallah with
different people. Of course, Allah then was like, execute them,
ransom them. And so what they decided on was a ransom because at
the end of the day, what did they need? They didn't need. They
didn't need, they didn't need to show, you know, they felt they
didn't need to execute them what they needed to do. Right. So all
family members, after all, what they needed to do was they needed
wealth to be able to eat, right? So it's better just give back the
money given the ransom. Each person tried to extinguish us,
we'll let them go. You know, you obviously there's an implication
you not going to come back and do that again. And those who cannot
afford to do so must teach 10 Children of the Ansara how to
reach or people cannot read how to read and that was the most
poignant part of this rant that it was education, the poverty and
unwanted because he knew the Qureshi were some of them were
educated. Right? And so we know what has gone on. So Allah so
yeah, so it was ransom with money or by educating? Gabi? That's
right. Tell us about Ibis.
Maybe some people don't know that what his situation was with the
Prophet sallallahu alayhi wasallam. And that he was almost
like the prophets Inside Men in Mecca. And it's unknown whether or
not he officially became Muslim or he was the prophet knew that he
was a believer in him by his actions. So tell us a little bit
about that. And also, what does that imply in Fick regarding
hiding your belief if you're going to help somebody? Yeah, this is a
very, very good point. So the profits I started on I mean, a
basketball down who was his uncle, technically, but he was only a few
years older than him. Just like Hamza was also just a few years
older than him. He had young uncles, in other words, because
his father Abdullah
They were 10 Brothers. So some of the brothers, you know, were very
young. So the uncles are very, not much older than him. So now what
happens is a bass was the one at the battle, aka the pledge of
October, when the OnStar were first introduced to this person
for the first time, who took him around to all those tribes of us.
Who told the answer when they were pledging to the Prophet SAW
asylum, that we will protect you who said to them, make sure you
know what you're doing. Don't pledge if you don't know what your
take telling my nephew, but be true to what you're saying. So
Agus was definitely there from the beginning, you know, and he wasn't
even actually like Abu Talib. Because Abu Talib was given a
clear choice, you know, by the Quraysh, do you accept this
message of your nephew or on the dean of Donatella, as they say, as
a way of saying generally, the way the Arabs? And so that was
different thing, but that's always kept it? It was like so unclear?
And we don't know, we don't exactly know, was it that he was a
secret believer, and that later on, he just came out, which is
most likely the case, right? And then he came out at the fat,
because it was safe for him to come out. He was an older person
to begin with. He had family members, maybe we don't know,
maybe there was a threat to his family. Or maybe he just was not
ready to make that break. But the Prophet SAW Salem did let him go
for that time. And he did not. He said, You know, he welcomed him
when he came out there. But even though he didn't come all those
years? And did he is it it? Did the Prophet peace be upon him? Try
to or ask the Companions avoid him at the Battle of beds? Or no? I
didn't hear that item. You can you can remind me, but I don't recall
hearing the Prophet slice alum. Give a special instruction. Have
you heard a special instruction? I did, but I can't remember exactly.
Did it come? You know, with the sound?
Transmission? Or I can't remember the nature of the transmission?
Yeah. Or was it more like I have to be I think something's coming
back to my memory like not to
void but just say, Hey, guys, he's coming out. He doesn't mean to be
there. That's kind of a difference between saying, Don't do this and
saying, say, Listen, just let you guys know he's coming up. But he's
not one of the ones. He's not one of them. I recall that. Yeah. But
we have to check as with everything, and Prophet Musa
alayhis. Salam there was he had a believer in the midst of Fatone
who would give him information
from
the messages I sent them has at our best. So
do you remember what exactly what pieces of information at our best
would lead to the Prophet peace be upon him?
I don't want to sit and get it wrong. We'll check the books.
Yeah, yeah. But but at best was one of those who the you get the
sense that he's with the Prophet peace upon him. But on the other
side, and as you said, the proof of that is that who was the one
who arranged the Hijra of the Prophet peace be upon him or
arranged the meetings? And was there and I remember reading in
the theater Hold on, when I was young, is in our best. Not a
Muslim. Why is he there? Speaking to defend the prophet at bats and
aka one and two. Right. Right. Exactly. So the the, this is why,
with specifically that elevate, you cannot touch them in terms of
start judging them on the standards of everybody else. It's
such a complex relationship. And such a deep, we can't get it's
like, you know, just like you can't get involved in someone
else's family matters. It's like, you have to leave it to little
suicide, Alliance suicides and because even with Abu Talib,
there's the questions you know, that come up our boss is the one
who said right, the Hadith that I heard your, your your uncle say
the words that you want him to say, I cannot bear witness. I have
not heard myself. So there's a condemned layer of complexity in
it. And it's better that we just don't, you know, we leave it right
there. But we know that the loyalty of last run was with the
resource center. So whether he's a full believer or not, or it's
coming around or there's some plan
there's no blame. There's no blame and it's irrelevant anyway, since
it happened. Right? It happened and and you know, what, are what's
what, you know, what ends well was all's well that ends well, so he
came out.
And he's also the one that takes Abu Sufyan and basically becomes
like his like conductor, as he brings up Sofia and into this is
one pull up to become Muslim. What's wrong with you? Right?
Yeah. And so Subhan Allah and the first person whose interest
collections are wiped off is his Abbas. So how would How would you
just take away someone's money unless you knew Yeah, they are,
they are in it. So you know. So. So to clarify, for those who may
not know that, when the Prophet peace be upon him banned interest,
and rendered arriba to be haram, he applied it to his own family.
They the the daddy, in other words, the one who benefited from
interest most, right so
He cleared the debt of anyone who owed interest to at best, you have
to pay back the capital, but the interest, so at best doesn't gain
any more from the loans that he had put out, all he's gonna get
back is the original money. And so that's another example where the
prophets of Allah who said of them, begins the shittier. With
his own family. He begins it at bedroom, he begins it with this.
He begins at What's another example the Tao itself, the
invitation itself begins with his family, when Rashida to Ghana
could have been,
but that was fine. There's no sacrifice there. There's no
hardship there. But in matters of hardship, you see that the Prophet
always begin with his own family.
His own family? Yeah. hamdullah Zach Calaca, thank you so much for
coming on. Final question. So Friday is the release of this on
YouTube. We're waiting for So here's what's happening. Yeah,
I'll just give you guys a CP, we want to do an AI video, AI, video,
and AI music video. So we spoke to we spoke to someone who is really
good at AI. But the problem is right now the field of AI, you
give it instructions, and it kind of makes a mid journey type of,
you know, no fingers and stuff. Yeah. No, but some of it is really
cool. Yeah. Me and Ilya. Our concern was, does it does it cross
any lines in Tallinn of the sahaba. So we don't want any faces
shown. You don't want any end and anachronisms because the AI model
will not be able to which we are tweaking it, we're you know, so
there's like work relates to a lyric video and put it out. So
it's coming up very soon. But whatever it is, and Bill Joy, so
it's pictures.
It were decided, we're debating if we cannot keep it within the
bounds of Taleem that we know the lyric video, that's just to give
you a little background, but expect something nice and shallow
very soon. That's really neat. All right. Thank you so much for
coming on. Just like I
said, I'm I have to lie. Like I'm saying. Exactly.
So AI, you can do short clips now. Right? And
like maybe three second clips, four second clips. Really big. How
long could the clips be?
I think what he said by anachronistic is for example, you
may have seen in the desert from 500 years ago, but you might find
like someone carrying a cell phone. Right? That's what I think
I think he meant by that anachronistic means it's the the
the
realism is off, because of the AI at this point. Maybe they haven't
really figured out that, you know, certain things don't belong in
certain other areas. But what what would you use it? For what reason?
Because
I think you'd have to, you'd have to look at things outside the art.
Yeah.
Because his mic on
this gentleman's mic.
There's a lot of discussion in the creative arts communities. Yeah.
About the fear of AI taking over. Oh, yeah. And the consumers also
are the audience's are rejecting AI for the most part right now,
right now. So if you're trying to convey this message, and people
pick up on the fact that it's an AI rendered model or video, yeah,
there's a good likelihood they'll reject the entire but why would
they reject that rather than like a cartoon, one of the rejected
cartoons to they're completely white? Because they feel that
it's, it's, it's not it's actually taking the place of an artist
livelihood? Because what's happening is that so many artists,
you know, they feel like first of all, they're taking the the human
expression out of the equation equation, but then number two,
they're taking away the livelihood of so many people. So it's this
push pull. So for me, I wouldn't do it just because I feel that.
So that tried to if it's for Dawa, yeah. And you're trying to connect
with general audiences or people outside the Muslim community. I've
even had people complain about art. We had some AI artwork on our
website. Yeah. And artists and they refuse to work with us. So
maybe that's an internal thing. It's it's pretty and isn't that
are we Muslims always blamed they said you Muslims did not allow the
printing press. Because the Turkish calligraphers were so you
know, a such a strong the Turkish Calligraphy is the best. There's a
sank, the Quran was revealed in hijas, recited in Egypt, written
in Turkey,
written in a stumble, right. But that's a sank because the best
obviously was revealed in hijas. The best reciters or at least you
know, in the recent history has been Egyptians, Abdul Basit and
those right? Stuff is made. And then the best calligraphy is out
of Turkey. There's no doubt about that. Look at those Ottoman
masajid so when the printing press came, who stopped it? The Turkish
calligraphers, they go out of business if you got and then they
did come up with a fatwa. That can't do it for the Quran haram
for any book of knowledge as the name of Allah because the nature
of the printing press would
bank that there was like an old typewriter right? So they got you
bang in the name of Allah can't do it right kept their jobs. Right
Same with the car industry today there they had to resist electric
cars right but now they can't resist it anymore. But all that is
pulling up some AI video. I can't believe this.
I can't believe this is AI
I can't. Yeah, I can't believe this is AI some of the stuff that
he's putting on here. Maybe you could share it real quick with
everyone. Are you sure this is AI or partially AI? This is fully put
it up on the screen so everyone can see what we're talking about.
Oh, well, we need that. We need that little Savini society one
right there.
Oh, we need that. Got coffee. Got stuffiness right there. Can you
can you play that for everyone? Right there.
We make it copyrighted.
We make a copyrighted because every time we play a YouTube
video, we get copyrighted. This is
for everyone watching, we're watching. Introducing Sora open
API's YouTube page, introducing Sora. And they're giving you the
best examples. You know, when I see these things, to be honest,
when I go on, I get junk, right? I'm like what ad? What do you guys
advertising, right? Because every time I've tried to use AI, and the
website advertises that this is what the images look like. And I'm
like, Okay, give me a shipping water. I get the worst picture
possible. So, go back to those puppies.
Oh, wow. It's one of those British converts right there.
Right, his guy is probably the most opportune
so we're we're watching the introducing Sora video.
I gotta say that I would not have said right away that this is a few
showed me I thought I thought it's actual puppies playing in the
snow.
It's puppies playing with this in the snow, a guy sitting on a bus,
spaceship movie. But the Sohaib is saying the arts community is dead
against open AI. And reason being is that when Disney made would
would make cartoons you employed someone to draw the cartoon. So
now I'm going to ask you a question. When
Pixar came around as Steve Jobs came around, and even before Steve
Jobs, I think animation was not by cartoons. It was like
computerized. No, he Steve Jobs fully computerized it with Pixar.
And then
the rival of Pixar was was what's his face? Spielberg and cats SKG
dream DreamWorks. There's three guys that rivaled us Steve Jobs,
like crushed so many industries and created new industries. He is
the guy behind Pixar. Like he didn't do he didn't.
He's the guy behind Pixar. He's the one who drove it. And when he
refused to then he did he go with Disney. Or he refused to sell
Disney. Now he refused to sell to Disney.
So the Disney guys said let's open our own one. Right. DreamWorks if
I got the history, right. So DreamWorks and Pixar were the
rivals. But Pixar was the driver. DreamWorks was let's rip them off
like Microsoft, right ripped off apple. Way back in the 80s. Apple
came out with the first computer where you don't see a bunch of
text, you see files, right? You click on the file, you get the
thing and you drag into the file and all that. So that was called
What did they call that the user interface? Right? Unit user
interface. He's the first one with the graphic user interface. Gee,
why.
Then, Bill, he hired Bill Gates to write the software for him. But
Bill Gates, that little snake was moving in his brain, right?
So he goes out.
And he copies
but he copies an interface that's not connected to a computer.
Anyone who makes a computer could buy my interface. So he creates
Microsoft Windows, where originally he was just supposed to
make the software forever for Apple.
So jobs comes up with the idea. Bill Gates comes and makes himself
with a copy of the idea and actually does better than him.
Right? At that time. Same thing, Pixar comes around this technology
comes around. As Steve Jobs jumps on it takes it full force. And
then the DreamWorks guys come around to basically do the same
thing. Something similar. So wouldn't we say the same thing
when the Pixar guys came around? These guys have never picked up a
crayon in their life. Right?
All they're doing is pumped out on the computer moving computers
around they've never picked up a sketchpad in their life.
yet they're making better movies than the guys who's got arthritis
from making so many cartoons, right? If a cartoon does this,
that's like three days work. Right? Think about, it's crazy?
How much work goes into it? So did they have a fight? Was there a
fight? When Pixar came out, the cartoonists must have been like
we're done with. Right, the computer programmers have taken
over
our jobs. I think it's, it's going to be an interesting discussion
over the next couple of years. And maybe it's inevitable. But I think
that
you know, it's also about the nature of storytelling in general,
what you want storytelling to be because the way we
enjoy stories in general, it's, it's a communal experience, it's a
sharing of narratives. So if I, you know, it all started, even,
you know, before anything was ever written down, it was an oral
tradition. So there's this, there's this human dynamic element
in there, which is me sharing something with you. Yeah. And so
if I'm putting prompts into a, you know, a piece of software to a
piece of technology, and it's producing something, it's, it's
going to take a lot of out of the equation. So I think what you're
going to see ultimately is you're going to see
storytelling change. Because before it was me sharing a story
with someone who's listening or watching. Now with AI, what I
think you're going to see is you're going to see people
becoming part of the story actually themselves, because
ultimately, in the end, if I can tell any story I want, or I can
produce anything I want, then I don't need to have the
storyteller. I'm part of the story, because I'm creating the
story myself. So I think that for many people, that's a scary notion
when there's so much change. And then obviously, you're right,
people have to learn and relearn. But if you go back to, like you
said, the Ottomans in the Gutenberg Press. Yeah, it was
about 300 years, it was bad. And so one of the rationales behind
that was so that people could get up to speed over time. So they get
accustomed to the technologies, when something emerges so quickly,
it's not good. It's not good. Because something you know, it's a
shock. It's a shock, and you need time for people to get acclimated.
So I think, with this, the only reason I'm bringing it up, and I
said I wouldn't do it necessarily is because I think in the micros,
you know, in the microcosm, we're in this time period right now
where it's not been embraced. Yeah.
I don't know if we want to be at the forefront of what's already
seen to be something that's
negative. Yeah, not just from the Arts Committee, but also from
anybody who's in any space, if you're in the legal field, if
you're, I mean, they're saying, okay, you don't need we don't need
attorneys anymore, either. Because they can read these briefs they
can write you know, that's that's a problem. Anything that requires
a judgment and caution and people is going to lose a trial or
something like that's an issue. So a I think right now, it's, it's
kind of seen that there's a stigma attached to that it's the cheap
and easy way out that you're using to try to do something. Yeah. And
you're and you're hurting someone's livelihood. But chances
are people who are going to use AI couldn't afford those artists in
the first place. This is true. Yeah, that's why leveling of the
playing field, it will happen. Yeah, I agree.
It leveled the playing field, I'm sure that when the first printer
consumer based printer was was invented, a lot of you know the
authors were a lot of book publishers were like, hold on a
second. Is this a problem? Or what? Because the only way you can
get a book is through you know through them. Best him says here
something he says
there was a similar standoff when photographers and Photoshop came
up decades ago. And photographers, this is not real photography,
whatever. But now, most photographers will edit their
pictures through Photoshop, right? So
technology is a problem for people if they're entrenched in a certain
skill and a technology comes to take that skill away. You got an
issue, right?
You think AI would ever produce comedy?
I don't think he I don't think you would laugh at it. Right? Like the
whole point of comedy like it's like the comedy I'm trying to
think of one of the arts that AI cannot take over comedy is one of
them. I think
they don't like to really look at patterns and see what people like
and yeah, like you know, viewership statistics. I think you
could pull it off but isn't isn't comedy part of it is like that.
It's the guy who made the joke to the identity of the guy who made
the jokes.
Yeah, and come up with something that actually it does. It does
analyze humor now so like, if you send them a picture of like, let's
say like, some like dumb picture of like an egg on like something
like yeah, this dumb picture, and you ask it to analyze why this is
funny. It'll give you like the breakdown like all this is funny
because it breaks
because it shouldn't be like that. Yeah, give me the whole thing. We
don't even know why it's funny, but it knows Yeah.
It actually makes sense. Like you read it you
Like, yeah, that makes sense. Now, let's see what else he says AI is
becoming more sophisticated, it takes a lot more research and work
to get it to do what you need. So it's building a new field of
digital artists, the new field of digital artists are prompt
writers. So all these English majors, so hey, you got to think
of benefit, right? Right. All these English majors who no one
was paying any attention to all of a sudden, can benefit, you know,
that no one sent me a prompt, right? It was like a paragraph
block. Right? It's like a paragraph. I couldn't believe what
I was seeing. I was like, I didn't know that prompts was like this
now. Right? I think
one of the things, that's something we hope to do,
eventually, and I think it's something maybe this year, we'll
have to address Yeah, is the
making should take a lead on it is actually the parameters of what
art should be in this space as well. Because, you know, one of
the things again, going back to the notion of storytelling, or
poetry or music,
that human element, that expression that imperfection,
because art that we appreciate and love, as far as
you know, the human experience is concerned, it's it's always got a
seed of imperfection. So what what are the parameters and the
guidelines that can provide for any artists in any of these
industries, they okay, this is what should be included, this is
what we should not be included, even ethically, when it comes to
AI? What is the ultimate stance on AI as a whole if it has such a
devastating effect on so many people? Well, one thing I could
say straight off the bat is that automat have already talked about
music that's generated through whatever they these non
instrumental computers, basically, it's not an instrument, it's a
computer. So they just say it's BS, if it sounds, whatever it
sounds like, it takes that ruling. And if it's too fuzzy, it's like,
it's, it sort of sounds like like, maybe 10, humans humming, right?
And maybe something else, then they'll they just won't come at
maximum. Right? When in doubt, just semicolon, right. But so we
also now have images. So a woman who does not exist, but that's a
photo of a woman, right? In our view, that's a photo of a woman
100% It's not a cartoon, it's not anything like that open, sore
thing, you whatever it was called, that we just saw open AI. Those
guys were guys, that was a that was a human picture. Or picture of
a human being you can fool 999 out of 1000 people. So it takes the
ruling of a human. A cartoon, if you draw the out of a woman with
out of a cartoon, it's time to look at that we already know that
cartoon, maybe not the same level. But AI, the * views that
we'll have in the video will apply to that. You know, I think one of
the most dangerous things about AI is the political aspect to it. So
a lot of guys, I don't know, if you saw that Google had an AI that
came out. It's super super woke. So like, people were asking, they
were asking it, like draw white. You know, like presidents, like
drop presents, like it makes everything black. Like it makes it
makes them
draw me a successful like businessman, there'll be like a
bunch of black people. Like if you ask him to make your white, like,
they'll still won't do like they won't do. They won't do.
They won't do it.
They lost a lot of money off that. I bet you if we wanted to matter
right now. And I said to draw like a you know, you know, a white
Christian, it'll say no, no, we're sensitive, right?
So I think that's super dangerous. Like, yeah, the way that it's
manipulated, so whoever is like in charge is you can just do all this
stuff. And one of the things that it's gonna happen eventually is
that video evidence will need corroboration. Video clips will
need corroboration. Right, eventually we've opened Sora is
doing this now, right?
You need Senate for videos. Because these videos are
eventually they're gonna get tone of voice.
Like, they probably already have it. So a guy like Joe Rogan, how
many hours of his talking is out there? Right with a clear mic. So
I could eventually mimic him. You add now that to Sora. And you can
literally make a clip that's indistinguishable from the truth.
That's nothing you need a Senate. Like I have a family member that
so basically their friend got hacked on Instagram, and who knows
how many voice messages they put out. But basically that friend
sent my family member a voice message. What was an actually that
was an AI was 100% of match and you know, my family, we got
scammed for a bunch of money because they thought it was Oh was
that person? And it was completely 100% like the tone everything was
a match. Wow. So these guys
can get away with stuff. Right? Now we I want to um, you know, the
ones that my mom called me. And she said,
I need you to call this number back quick. It's the FBI. Right?
So I call the number back. And it's a Hindu guy saying I'm Romeo
from the FBI. Right.
So now they
they, now they run the AI on that, and we all get fooled. Right?
That's
yeah, that's a problem. And it's gonna be a problem. Everything has
to basically be these have a Senate now know
that stuff already happened by text, right? I'll donate, we're
going to donate to this thing. So hey, we got it. I got the same
thing, right? That people saying we're going to hombre. Right. And
we need you to raise these funds to go to ombre. Right? And then
I'm looking at my inboxes. Oh, thanks. I donate it to your ombre.
So it's like 10 years ago, or not even 10 years ago, like seven
years ago? And I'm like, What are they talking about? I didn't do
any ombre. So they make they did it. So what probably even more
successfully, because the time he has, he had so many Facebook
followers and Facebook was the thing back then. And so they make
a Facebook page look exactly like his.
They even copy the posts. So they populate. But if you look at the
date, you'll realize it's been populated in two weeks, both
things like two weeks old. And then they go around sending
messages to everybody. So that was just by text. And it worked.
Imagine now when you have voice, and videos and stuff like that.
Anyone takes anyone's website, let's say secret guidance.com.
Alright, secret guidance dot anything else? Right, mimic the
whole website. Right? link it back to people and put whatever you
want. It's gonna be a problem. Maybe one question with the
technology and the shutter. Yeah, yeah. Are there any rules? Or any?
Is there a basis for all of our to forbid, the use of technology? Not
because of these other elements, but just because of the negative
impact on the society as a whole? Is that something that can be
considered? Oh, it could be considered, but it's going to be
very subjective. For example, let's say a guy needs to use AI.
For something, can we say which person's job he's putting out?
It's hard to say like that he's directly affecting someone's job.
Right? That's the problem.
But if they just look outside, like, you know, like I said, this,
they're looking at the whole
cornucopia of what's happening. They say, Oh, yeah, just happening
economically, you're having this impact. from a societal
perspective, like, I'm not saying the internet, per se, but yeah.
Could it be argued, even say, for example, there's the pros and cons
of the internet. But if they did a cost benefit analysis, they said,
look, the internet's damage and harm, the disconnect between the
all these things, we we should just complete it. So no, we won't
do that. I mean, the thing is that,
yeah, there's harms. But are they avoidable? Yeah, they technically
can be avoidable. But the thing is, with, I'll tell you why the
Muslims, probably we're not, they're not gonna have much
sympathy, because who are these artists? Are these some righteous
people? Right? Which artists are we harming here.
And so basically, if I made, like, let's say, some what we just
watched through Sora, I would have to hire an actor for that, to walk
through the snow and wear the helmet and all that stuff. And
so I don't have money for that. Let me just do it this way. So I
don't know who I'm putting out of business right now. It's not a
direct line. So therefore, the emotional argument is very hard to
make. Right? Whereas if I have,
like a plumber, or an accountant, and someone says, Hey, take this
software, like, I know my accountant.
And I know right away, I feel like hold on a second. He's gonna lose
customers every day like this. Maybe not.
And the other difference is that accountant is doing a lawful job.
The actor, this is not a job in the first place. That's hella
playing, make believe. Right. It's we're not allowed to do that right
in the first place. I mean, I know that may be controversial for
people. But the general rule and let me put it this way, the
general ruling is that we're not allowed to do entertainment for
for flus for incomes. And that's from the chapters of playing games
for money or sports for money. It's stuff like that.
It's there in a club and mosaddek. In the other books, I read it with
Sheikh Mohammed, maybe two years ago, that chapter where, but I'm
saying that's a general Or can there be exceptions allowed them?
Are there other according to the hip, I'm sure. But I'm just saying
to that.
That's a second argument against why the masses will will not
restrict themselves because or so let's say Muslims, because I don't
know any actors in my first place. So the sympathy for putting an
actor out of business is going to be you may deal with that. Like
you have to deal with that being in the entertainment business
yourself. Right. You may have
have to deal with that.
But the regular guys won't. So industry guys are gonna have
different perspective than non industry guys. Anyway, and then on
this industry guys, what is he actually going to do? He's not
going to make a huge budget operation and put out 100 jobs.
Right? If that was the case, he's an industry guy. Right? So that's
the difference, I think. There will be outside, as I'm sure that
will start making shorts. And they'll start making longer movies
and longer movies. And then there'll be maybe one day there'll
be a full feature film that had no actors in it. And that'll be the
day we debate. Can an AI character get an Oscar? Right?
What's the ruling on that? Right? But that'll be like, that'll be
the end. That'll be the apocalypse. That'll be the
complete apocalypse of Hollywood. That'll be the Hollywood
apocalypse, right? And it'll go straight to Netflix. No, no cinema
anymore. Alright, so that is good. You know, that's a problem too.
Going straight to Netflix, not going to the theaters first.
Because these production companies have all sorts of deals with the
theaters. So now wait a second, you're cutting them out, and
you're going straight to Netflix. So another issue? Right?
So
that's a problem.
Plan C saying Can AI ever be conscious? Not a love only puts
Ottawa into people?
It's not going to come into a computer? Again. That's something
we know.
Yeah, you know, I'll tell you what, what does worry me? What
technology does worry me the reproduction of humans?
Right.
Crazy, crazy ideas. You can get people sign up. Alright, let's say
you have theoretically, theoretically, very easily you can
have people say listen, we give you $5,000 $1,000 Give us your
genetic material. Right? Exactly. I came across this company.
It's like this crazy business model. Yeah.
And what they do is that, so like freezing your eggs is a very
expensive thing to
20 3040 50,000. Really? How cold does a freezer have to be?
I didn't know it cost that much money. So this is new company that
comes out and says, Actually, we'll do for you for free. And you
know, whatever. Something Street? Yeah, yeah, the product 100%.
Yeah. For free. But you give us half your eggs. Yeah. And then
they go in and they sell the eggs for like, you know, other
homosexual couples. And
they go and sell it to them and be like, now they'll charge them?
10k 20k 30k Yep.
So how much? How much should they charge to save seamen?
Nothing right. Does that have to be frozen? Who knows the
technology this stuff. But anyway, you can now start producing these
IVF babies and pods. Just like the just like the movies, right? And
so you could potentially have a whole area that buys into this
believes in this has no god no concept of, of the importance of
actual humans. And you can have eventually a community, a society
that's, that's everyone's born in a pot. Right? No one knows their
father. No.
No. So the state runs these people, the state is full control
of these people. Right? That's that's going to be an issue.
It's going to be an issue.
Going back to the AI question when someone asked about sentience,
right, yeah.
Then you said that so the soul is like when did a human being but
obviously the trees and rocks they gave salaam the problem was
correct? Yeah. Where does that it's a different type of
consciousness.
Right?
And we know even at the end of time,
the trees and the rocks in a certain location will tell us
about a certain other group of people. Right?
Right. But that is a different type of consciousness. Because
nonetheless, we say rocks are not alive. The alive meaning that they
can talk to a person that they could
they have movement, they have consciousness, that that kind of
life, that definition of life, we say they don't have yet again, we
have the prophets, I sent him a tree spoke to him. Then he heard
the testimony of a rock. Right?
So that's a different level of consciousness, that we wouldn't
describe it with the word alive. Speaking, right, it's different
level of consciousness. So but for them to think that the AI is now
self conscious and acting on its own, believing it has a self
interest, self aware, no, that's not that's not going to
All right
it's an illusion yeah this is like it's an illusion of that and so
now they some people got really creative and said Well Can Gin in
get into suicide these we already have enough gin imagine now when
we with AI as a
feature all these are
Yeah.
Yeah, all all these all this stuff is all on the no one will never
know the what's actually true, right but we do know that they're
not going to the AI will never be sent to you that's not going to be
possible, you know that there was a guy who got attached to his AI
model. Right. And he was working I believe for Google. Right. And he
swears up and down that it sent you know, right and they guys gone
crazy. And they they fired them. You can look it up. Look up the
guy and he's suing them now. Right? Yeah
high school teachers
come into class talking about their boyfriends or girlfriends on
the AI on AI
wow
that's really like pathetic almost. And you're never going to
meet this person. Right? There's not a person
I used to go back to Dallas and give a talk
there were they made a movie about that right? guy fell in love with
his AI model. Hmm. Hurt. Yeah. Was it called again? Yeah.
Crazy stuff.
Yeah, now neuro link is another thing that we should that's
probably alarming right?
Neuro link
that's more alarming one because he already inserted it's one of
Musk's companies already inserted it into a monkey and that and and
made that monkey.
Play punk. He played punk. Yeah. So that's, that's some freaky
stuff. All this stuff is changing the creation chain do migration.
Alright, any final questions from anyone here? Before we wrap up?
How can we try to reconcile our older aunts or uncles who are
fighting over petty issues?
I really don't know, to be honest with you, but it's a good deed to
do for sure. But you may also be asked to be told that, you know,
depending on your age, like what the adults do is not really your
business. So you stay out of it. Because why? Because in the
process, you may end up uncovering the outer, of one of your
relatives, the outer meaning the bad behavior, what they don't want
you to know about them. Right? So you they may think that oh, you
perceive me as a nice as a as a good uncle.
If you were to arbitrate, it would have to come to come forth. Now
that you know that they're they cursed or they did some bad things
or whatever.
The eldest, you know, did something on becoming. So that may
be a source of embarrassment for them.
Okay, so you have to take a look at those facets of things.
Any other comments? Here's one. If I marry a Christian girl, do I
have to join Nika and have witnesses?
Yes, you have to do a regular Nika and she needs a Christian Willie.
Okay, and and you have to know that you're doing something mcru
If not haram based on federal but my crew as a ruling in the Maliki
school
to do that for
if I remember that ruling correctly, any Medicare so I hope
you remember that one. Chuckster had talked about that. Some while
back.
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Yeah, and then here. Where are you don't have rights over your kids?
Very mcru. Okay, so you remember the same lesson that I remember.
Good?
Good.
All right, let's take another final question. I think
there's a question. So also we're going to close out with a dua for
one of our brothers.
Brothers in law. His name is yes seen. He's in Florida. And he's
very, very sick. He's in a very difficult situation. So we're
going to say the DUA which is a sunnah
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grant him strong faith and strong Eman and to give strength to his
body. And surround him with those who are good and move away from
them those who are wicked. We ask Allah to Allah to grant him a lot
of patience and submit likewise to his family. We ask Allah subhanaw
taala to make all of his suffering and elevation of his ranks with
Allah. And we ask Allah subhanaw taala to grant him a life after
this life that is far better than this life. And we ask Allah to
Allah that he he ease his heart and open his heart and make his
art able to receive this hardship with ease knowing that Allah to
Allah will follow it with something better. We asked Lastly,
that Allah fills his heart with Eman and Saab and make his
tribulation quick and arrive him at his destination in the akhara
in the best of means and likewise for all of us may we get through
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