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Said Rageah

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Kareem says no. Wouldn't it be no Mohammed Lada early he was so heavy Jemaine.

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As I stated earlier,

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all of us will be participating in the question answer session

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versus, you know me inside out? Or do they?

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They don't, there's nothing much you can ask. Or they can ask that you don't know, because we've been here together for years.

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The questions will be addressed to the shoe mainly. And it's a fair game.

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When I asked the sheriff a question, or share camera, and another question, a question.

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When he finishes answer, then he can ask a question, or any one of the CEO they can pick up the mic and just ask a question after he finished answers.

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Now, since I started the talk, and since I'm in the middle and the Sharla and since this is the mystery of what I would ask the first question,

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to share man

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under a hain McCarthy a question that is general question

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also is nothing is it is in the minds of a lot of students and that is we assume that when go seeking when we go overseas, and we say with the shoe, inside headphones, and you know, there are the man that can do that the one that alive and the one who passed away, and then Mashallah you come back as a student of knowledge is to share so and so. And they don't realize what a student of knowledge will go through to become a student of knowledge or even to sit with the hood ama, such an honor that I mentioned, and the likes of Cheryl, Bernie didn't know what they mean. So my question to him is, tell us a little bit about your journey, the journey of seeking and, and was it as easy

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and colorful as a lot of people as to

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this mean level hamdu Lillah, WA Salatu, Salam ala rasulillah.

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You know, like you said, a lot of people, they imagine that, when they go, they sit, and they just kind of suck in their lm, you know, they sit

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in the helicopter, and em just kind of comes to them.

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But the reality is, it's a very difficult journey, especially if you want to really benefit.

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And we find the majority of the brothers who come from the west, any only a few really come back as real students of knowledge. And if we were to look, for example, at the Arabic language, even though they studied Arabic language for two years, and they study in the college for four or five years, we'll find it they don't speak proper Arabic. They don't read proper Arabic, because they didn't put the time into office that you need. Because that's something you need is like, you know, you take some tests, even though you might pass and you come home with a degree, but then he was significant, isn't it, and it's how you really benefited. So I'll tell you what happened to me at first, the

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first place I chose to go to was to then, as I mentioned, you know, for no particular reason, it was just any something that had happened, I went to Sudan. And after like the first month or two, I got malaria.

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And I don't know if anybody here has ever had malaria, but you can you can imagine the worst flu in Canada. And it's like your agenda is fluids. This is awesome, you know, compared to the malaria I mean, it's unexplainable, man. Oh, it's just incredible. You know, the first six days I couldn't eat anything I mean, I would eat anything he would just throw and throw up like you know gallons and Where's it coming from? I don't know cuz everything anything three and a half days any liquids as well. I couldn't It was so hot and there's no AC and just I was like an oven. I had some beautiful brothers from Nigeria with me. They took care of me and they used to help me make mold or they you

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know, make more room for me. It was just it was it was terrible. You know,

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I rested for a week it wasn't you know, seven days or seven days rest and you're back on your feet. After the 14 days I got a memory again. This time is a little different. You know, I'll be okay. And I'll suddenly be like Mike Tyson punch me in the face I'll be out you know, that was a that was a weird one. So this first month and then I really thought about coming back.

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I said okay, let's just go back you know, get a little more money work and come back out again is a little too much. But I saw all the brothers who came back never came back out. So I didn't want to be from them. I said I have to be patient. So this was very difficult and I was patient then and then when you go to as an advocate here mentioned last year, I had to adjust it that you cannot receive them the knowledge and have your body be relaxed at the same time. As you kick back. It's a very difficult procedure. If you look for example, and what we used to do we still focus on if somebody really wants to end with that in the college then was thrown out by the scholars outside.

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So have they never been on the record that any during my last two years, I found the best way for him. The best way to get knowledge is not in

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The major, you know, the big halaqaat even I did attend some of them, like the dose of sheer question Beatty, and I said we should have done that, and several of his classes before we started the smaller books with him like,

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No, we have small books in our feeder. And also,

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we study with him as well. I mean, some of the books of learning should be dealt with some of the chapters anyways. But he was, you know, it was I had other focuses, I didn't, I wasn't able to sit with him as much as I wanted to. But anyways, you know, this, we would start in the morning, have a notice after fudger, most of the time, we had a dose, you know, we had the 25 hours a week, from like 730 to one every day in the university, sometimes after load after hours. So we had a dose as well, after mobile after ratio. So we had 25 in the university and 25 outside of the university. And for somebody be successful, it's not just attending, because when you attend, it doesn't really

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benefit you what you have to do, as Ron mentioned, if you really want to gain knowledge, you have to first of all, read the chapter you're going to read through this year, and then study it from the short explanation of the book, if you have a book and 50, read the book that explains this, and then you go to this year, anything he adds on extra, you write it down, anything that you don't understand, you ask him about, and then you reboot when you go back. So you have to put a lot of time in the office to really get there. And it's not it's not easy. It's not easy at all. So no,

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you know, people think it's easy, it's but it's not, it takes a lot, you know, sometimes you find yourself up, you know, especially when you get into the research, because somebody who really knows about seeking knowledge.

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When you start to research in MS Ella, there's nothing more beautiful than that, you know, nothing in the dunya so when you get into a wrestler, you know, you find yourself in it, you know, usually like you know, two o'clock three o'clock in the morning and you have to get the MSL, you have to get a seat in the library you're researching, and you finally find it and then you find yourself falling asleep. And then the other ends in two hours, and you have to get up and go again. And that's just how it is. So it's it's not an easy thing. If you want to be successful, you have to memorize a lot and you have to review all the time. And it's it's a constant thing. So it's it's not as easy as

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people think it is. And then you know also from the important things is the issue of a bad you have to have make sure you have your a bother because the knowledge and a lot of they go together and to help you out with that. So no, it's it's a strenuous very it's a very difficult job. But in the sweetness you find at the end of it, there's nothing like it well, if I tried so many things from the dunya What am I there's nothing like any of the at the end of the day. And that's why even in shefter he said no to hear the the, for him to hear the noise of the of his you know, pen on the paper. It's more beautiful. And then the person who loves to sit with the the singer when she beats

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on her drums or what have you from the footstep. You know, he says he finds that more beautiful and as though it is in his suit of knowledge and and this is the most beautiful thing that a person will find or find the knowledge and learning more about a law when a lot more about Danny the son of our beloved Prophet sallallahu sallam, and there's nothing like it, but it needs any as one of our shareholders, Michel tours, the quarter jell

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o he will say nothing. He said can I come? And he mean the men of men and at the knees a bit you have to be really, really serious and really sincere at the end of the day. And then maybe also putana will grant you something of the knowledge. And the more you learn, the more you learn how genuine you are. And that's why now you know, a lot of brothers, they learn to read a book or to an English and they want to challenge the machine. I read this I heard this, or here's the tape. And here's this and they said I heard that you excited said this year Can I challenge and as you realize when you learn more, you realize how ignorant you really are. When you see the scholars have these

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big books they go 30 volumes 40 volumes. And you see how much of a skinny you really are, you know and they don't have anything. And this helps you with the Waldo at the end and you find the love of your machine and how you can take the knowledge from them and they pass it on to the others.

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Most of you don't know that.

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a homeowner command is murky

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he his opponent

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now

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we want to hear some of his poems.

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So can you please I was good friend I didn't know it either.

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share something with the brothers with the congregation.

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So that Harlow haven hamdulillah

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My bad.

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I have I've only written seven poems two are on religion and five are on chicken and kebab and things like that.

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I want to ask you which category you want me to go to. I think it's quite clear. Yeah.

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Both what is the best of both worlds? You know, I only memorize the chicken ones. You

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know, by the way, there actually isn't Arabic. There's also a procedure procedure by the judge. So of our scholars and more tentative they will proceed. They were poor

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Shut up dark green tea. So under that you're in the management. Thank you.

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Thank you for authenticating what I'm doing. Yeah. So

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I'll give you a quick short one first, and then I'll give you the, you know. So basically, this is something I wrote for a friend of mine. And some of you may have heard some of this stuff before.

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A friend of mine, my eating partner, and well, it was it was inspired by him. Yeah. So I told him, I see you coming in your girth. Eat and drink is what your word. Your only talk is what to eat. This type of chicken, that type of meat, this type of food, that type of dessert, you eat until your stomach hurts. Follow the sooner I'm sure you've heard, filled with food to about the third. But you eat the whole bird, the whole chicken. Your only Sunnah is finger licking.

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The other one was a

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friend of mine, also my eating partner. And this guy was great. Danny, he knew every restaurant if I get lost somewhere in Virginia, colo Yes, I'm lost. I'm hungry. Like if you make a right there's a restaurant like that.

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One of the things you need to know for the poem, we used to go to displace the made lamb chops, fantastic lamb chops. It was called Japan in that place. So what happened was we got married both of us around the same time. And obviously after we got married, we stopped hanging out, we stopped eating together. And it was a very, very sad experience. So I wrote him a poem I said, sadness fills my heart and fills the sky. Marriage forces us to say goodbye. The sun has has risen, but it hasn't shown you know, I don't like to eat alone.

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Whenever I was hungry, or was in the mood, calling you was like dialing one 800 food.

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You had every you had extensive knowledge of every branch and location, even pricing menus and hours of operation.

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Now we don't eat and we don't mingle. I wonder if you still eat like when you were single.

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So give me a call sometime if you can to eat some kebab or maybe Chopin. Or for a light snack at the all you can eat. Let's make them suffer another defeat.

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Because Good.

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Now, the other question I have for

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chef man

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is to share with us, you know, when we came here, when I came here, we were all faced with a cultural shock. I remember the first thing a man said to me, I'm gay. I just want him to kill me at that moment. I felt just please shoot me and Don't tell me you're gay.

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I believe something similar to that could happen to you when you go to the east. Can you share some of the you know, funny incident that? Yeah, that he experienced the same word you used because what happened? When I went to Sudan for the first time, you know, the first day I arrived as Where was the masjid. And it was a rather long walk. So the guy was taking me the budget, he took my hand held my hand like it is their customers to that.

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man that was you know, for me, I was like, Oh, what is this guy doing? You know? I couldn't you know, other than Tony, my head is just disgusting. And he's really you know, my any door with me and he's all happy. I'm like, Oh my god, you know, I just want to like crawl under a rock and die. You know, I just didn't know

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where I'm coming from. That's just something to do. And it's their customer they'll say things just from you know, being nice guy and being a brother and his lackeys. Oh, yeah.

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That was that was too much for me. That's a funny story that happened any one of our Michigan students Shut up.

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He said he went to London for a conference. And chef Jaffa Jaffa Idris he was there. So he did like they do and so then he grabbed his hand. Oh, he's the older man check Java. No, he's the chef comes and walks with him holds his hand. So chef Geoffrey Mead, he put his hand back. He said don't do in London.

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That was a thing. Another thing my brother told me. He said when you go to Sudan, he's you're going to find three crazy things. This is the fourth one I found that was actually crazier than the three. But he said you're going to find first of all that women will try to shake your hands. That's weird for us. And when we become Muslim, it's haram to shake woman's hands. And then you have these no Muslim women, you know, given how you know you're doing and it's like, wow. So the second thing he says you're gonna find really big houses and mansions that you won't see even in America. On the other side of the street, you'll find what my house is. And we found that he said the third thing

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when you go to a public place, he said they all drink from one glass. And everybody comes and drinks from the same glass as far as it's very strange and I was here but obviously I got used to it now. And even holding hands now somebody I know comes in money. I mean, I wouldn't want to do it in Canada.

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If somebody holds my hand, it's not a big deal.

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Come on. We lived in Hamden in LA.

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With either in Virginia, Maryland or Virginia, Virginia.

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And of course, we have chef Joffrey de Sala.

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Roseanne used to be in Russia dhwani of a cyber savvy divided face long list of scholars who

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who did you benefit most from?

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The two people that have benefited the most from

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the people that have benefited the most from in Virginia, say, Hey, we had like classes with frozen, okay, the classes in his home and things like that there were very beneficial but, but I wasn't around them enough to say that I've benefited from them the most, even though they probably were the most knowledgeable people that I was around. But the two people got a benefit the most from the first was shaeffer Idris, no doubt. And you know, Jeff Idris, really, he's a very, very humble man. And because he's humble in the way he dresses and the way he behaves, people, unfortunately, in the West, they think that he may not be that knowledgeable because he's humble. You know, we're used to

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someone who has something that kind of like this and their noses up, and Mashallah he knows his stuff. Someone's very, very humble. Like, he probably doesn't know that much. But it was the opposite with Chef Jaffa. And there are certain things that got us to realize the status of the ship. One of them is one of our friends went to Hajj, and in his group, which adapted Greece, he said, I met major major scholars in Mecca, that we hear their tapes and read their books, he said, these major scholars would drop what they're doing, when they found out the chapter offers in my group, they would stop what they're doing, stop their class, leave their halaqaat and come all the

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way and kiss his forehead, and then go back to what they were doing. That was one thing. The other thing is that these machines that you were mentioning, and at the mat had big names, and now they're very popular, especially around the Muslim man. They're all over the satellite stations. And

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chef definitely this used to have a class and he is, he's an expert, and he his brilliant, brilliant mind. schelotto. Well, first of all, he has his PhD in philosophy. And when he was writing, you're supposed to write a book right for your PhD. He wrote a 60 page introduction to his book was nothing else. And he just showed the introduction to his professor. The introduction was so superb, his professor gave him the PhD right then in there. So he's an expert in philosophy, and some scholars say about him. He's one of the last living philosophy. scholars were philosophers and upon the right men hedge. So he is an expert in scheffel, Islamic containment and the writings of Eman Tamia, and

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anyone who tries to read the works of containing me when he gets deep, you're just like, What language is this? Again? What religion is this? You can understand it, you know. So the chef, the chef, the big Mushaf, that the chef said, was just mentioning, they would come they had a closed session in his home. So he would sit on the chair and these big machines would sit on the floor, and he would explain to them from the books and even taymiyah. And so, one of my friends, he was telling me that he went to, he said he told the chef owner attending his brother brother knows Arabic very well studied in Arabic his whole life. And so he says it, Chef, so do you want to confine but you

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can ask any questions. So I said, I said all the Mushaf such as ever, so to explain, so I don't know what religion they were talking about. I didn't understand anything. They were saying 5% of what they were saying he couldn't understand it was that depth of knowledge. So chef, definitely Billy's very humble man, but extremely knowledgeable, and winning when it comes to his issues of al Qaeda and tafsir. And, and, and I believe one of the things that makes this ship unique because like sometimes you have to sit close with him. And he will tell you things that you may not find in any book, little insights and

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observations. Phenomenal.

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One of the things that he does, he always contemplates to call on I remember one time I was at his house, and we were about to pray. And so they went to call one of his sons basically went to Yelp and one of his sons went to call his other brother, he was just gonna tell him a salah and come back to the 22nd journey. 20 seconds to get to the stairs and say a salah and come back. In these 20 seconds a chef opened and he started looking always contemplates to Cora, and I heard one time that a group of students came to show up in bed they said that after we memorize the Quran, memorize the books of Hadith, what should we do? He told them contemplate the Koran. Then they said And after

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that, what should we do? The chef is smart. He don't finish you don't complete the never done complete contemplating the Quran. This is where it shall Jeffery's is concerned. And I must say the other person that had benefited a whole lot from with with Dr. shefali Tamimi for so long as the guest Ronnie Allah

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shahadat, me right now is in prison. We ask Allah to grant him his freedom.

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Shall I must say, this journey. And I'm not saying I'm anything in the field of knowledge, but I've never sat with anybody big scholar, not big scholar, except that I found an angle that I am more or better versed than them in it, can you sit with someone who's a monster and upgraded but you're in history, you're better than them, you sit with someone who's phenomenal and fit. But you know, you know interface better than they are whatever it is, you never sit with anyone in life, except that you can surpass them in something, even major scholars, you can surpass them in some angle or another. But I've never in my life sat with someone that I could never find myself better than me

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anything besides Alitalia, and the man and an hour of you're young, and you know, you only know the new young dad, now you're not aware of any, you don't know as much, you know, the folks who was especially it started the, you know, the dowel in the can from the early people in dow in the United States, Shadow me is really, really a phenomenal, phenomenal personality. And as far as the amount of knowledge, one time I was helping him clean up his library. And he was showing me books. And he was showing me that our ideas that he had, he was lucky I was 17 years old, when I had this idea. This is an age where you know, others were just, you know, playing video games or doing other

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things. And he was thinking like, a very mature person, he would spend his entire day just in the morning, he would go Library of Congress, and he wouldn't come out till night, just pray there and everything like that. very knowledgeable, and a very knowledgeable, very, you know, he could push himself to study. And so you ask him about anything, you find that he knows something about it even things of the dunya. One time, I saw a brother who drove all the way from New York City, just to consult with me about what

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and what should I do with my career. And and the shift would talk like, like some counselor at the school or even better, yeah, and one time, he was he was I've seen him give advice to people and people were studying that field for years. And he told them things that they had no clue about, you know, they will have to go research some more. So he's really phenomenal in that aspect. And

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I can't, I can't say what a shame it is that someone like this in the oma would be put behind bars, Jani mascola, you get to grant him his freedom. So he's also, like I said, with issues of dunya He is also a geneticist. At some point, he was one of the top 25 in the world. And he was also doing a study in cancer research he was trying to, and he was trying to try to use mathematical chaos theory to explain the the random and the multiplication of cells in the human body, the cancer cells. So you know, some, let's say, do some hardcore stuff. But beyond that, he also has a lot of AIDS, and he's not one of those people that suck up or lower the heads to the kuffaar. Wherever he works, they

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call him and actually one place where he worked the column Superman. He's beyond what I'm telling you Mashallah. varkala. He's beyond what you think an average person is capable of. And one time we were sitting, we were sitting, we're putting together an Islamic Center and this lawyer came to us with pages this thick, no, that lawyer talk that lawyer jargon, the way they wrote things. So all of us were on the first paragraph. When we looked he was already asking the Lord things from the sixth page. Yeah, his ability to process information is understood. I've never ever in my life met someone. And I've been impressed by a lot of people. I think you all know I'm very impressed by

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Jeff. asuni. Don't get me started with that.

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I'm impressed by a lot of people but I've never ever been impressed by anybody in my life as much as I've become impressed by shot at me. So you know, his trial is on hold and it's supposed to come up soon to me not to make this a sad thing. But I would ask you and all the believers to make the for the chef because he tried his drug could go very nicely. If we just put a lot of dye in but

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I think I can say a little bit more about chef Jaffrey The reason.

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She is so Hanalei remember coming from sitting with one of the shoe, and he was very frustrated, very, very upset. And so I said what is strong chef? And he said, I cannot convince this man to write more books. Because he say V and if he dies, two more, he has whatever he has, you will die with him. And I could not convince him to write more books and leave it for the omen. Nobody writes, writes like him. Nobody has the end that he has. But the man is so simple. Subhana Allah, he's absolutely right. He's very down to earth. Remember when we used to attend his Hanukkah? I mean, people would speak and talk and explain and he would be like, Huh, very interesting. That's good.

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And he will show the students who are sitting there that wow

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You know, I impress the chef and I know for a fact the chef knew the information before that young man was born. But you know what he was like wow.

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Now, my other question

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is to chef after him. And it is

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see you you you became a Muslim and hamdulillah you learned about Islam?

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What is your understanding before while you were reading for example, after some basically before you while you were reading about Islam, and when you met the actual Muslims, Muslims, was that a shock? Or was it is it or you found exactly what you read about Muslim Islam and Muslims?

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as real quick anyway, I was just looking up Jefferson in Sudan and every time it comes to that I get the pleasure of sitting with him I'm the I'm good friends with his sons as well. So why don't you sit with him and he says the robber has and he almost forget you're sitting with a major scholar you have to have to be careful not to you know, sit back and chill too much because he come on and just like chill with you in his garden drinking tea, like you know, so you actually forget sometimes you still want to water and he brings him down like he just he's like one of your brother he doesn't make you feel like I'm your chef. You have to know so to finalize a beautiful man chef Jaffa I was

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just with him recently him that he's doing good, he's in good health and then agents who then you will see him this one in India inshallah.

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When I first became Muslim,

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I guess you know, I can't really say much about Steve for six months in America that became was and I can't really say much about the Muslims there. But I thought what I thought was then when I left America for Bolivia, and was wanted to then that was gonna find this the harbor.

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So I thought anyways,

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so when I got off the plane, I didn't find him, obviously. And I think on the fourth or fifth day,

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there was a brother who's actually from Somalia, he took me to the duty free shop to get some milk and sugar and other things was cheaper there. So when I came back from the hot Sudanese, then I went to the

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slow restaurant or to buy a coke, you know, so when my pocket

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I was like, no wallet, oh, my money, my birth certificate, driver's license, everything is gone. You know, I was like, wow, no, no, it's introduction to the country. And never having I walked through the streets of DC, the worst neighborhoods in DC. And I'm just like this and nobody would even think about robbing me. And then I go into my Muslim country, and I get robbed for the first week is up, and I'm left with nothing. handed. My passport wasn't with me. So anything I had approved, where I was, you know,

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then after this, any, any of your friends several things, I mean, I went to study in the university. And

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the guy in charge, he was like, I'm sorry, we can't let you study here. I was coming to Arabic come learn Dean. And I said, why not? He said, you have to pay $1,500 and I just got robbed and have any money, you know? So how will I want to cry? I like to just put mine I couldn't believe that was in a Muslim country that only had to pay for knowledge. You know? So this this really hurt me, you know, so I was you found the Muslims in a or something. And as you were mentioning the day any

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any Islamic time that Muslim time, unfortunately, the Muslims sometimes are in a valley in Islam is in another. But any any person we study Islam for what it is, we know, it's not for what it is. And the Muslims, when they have shortcomings, we have shortcomings, we still have a lot of good hamdulillah and this is what we know even like in Sudan, unfortunately, the situation it's not going like it is you know, like we want it to the hijab and other things, it's really going in a bad direction. But at least in the Muslim society, we still have something called a sometimes a shame if you do it, you know, and you come to Western societies, you don't have that so the Muslims have

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dinner with the the backwardness that they have, and everything is you know, as the brother said, and then when you go to the Muslim country, it's run by IBM, and I thought about the computer company IBM, he said no inshallah Booker I mean tomorrow in my alleged sorry, and he said, this is the the Muslim way of life any because you know, when they go and you go to them, they said, yeah, if he can you do this, you know, go to the essential Allah. Then you come back, he says, You Buccola come back in tomorrow, and I'll give it to you. When you come back. Of course, don't already says Mallesh. I am so sorry. It's not, it's not ready. So any handle as a lot of you will say, we know we

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learned Islam before we saw the Muslim down. There was any word that we still have a lot of good in our own mind. And you see the Shabaab coming out now. This is evidence of this. Creighton is good, well, hamdulillahi Rabbil aalameen.

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Another question that I have a foreigner for what to come out and lucky

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is a point that I brought up the hymns Allah had mentioned, and this is a respect that the young people nowadays have for scholars of his

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shoe of like salasar we got Ridley's.

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And they're so ignorant, that they can they think they can review them, they can correct them, they can talk to them. And so Panama I remember when

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We were the math and useable taraba we came, though we distribute with him a lot of things that he does. So we went to him. And we, um, we didn't go to him actually, for that phase and optimizing for exam. We were there and a small group of students that we were so hurt that the man even is in town, never getting along. But you know, and we were so eager to go and just tell him who he is. And he just stays with us, you know? And we thought, the shoe and the resin frozen fat in phase, there was a Masha Allah, you're on the hook, you're on the Sunnah. And tell him this too, and tell them that too. But instead of getting that from them, they just destroy us on the spot. And say, Who are you?

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Who are you to address your use of parabolic as you call him?

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Who are you? And then the teachers, they just tell us there? And they say we don't even talk to him like that. And Pamela sanusha, you remember from I came to him to his office one day. And I said, Well, she was busy fixing his papers, and he's in his office, and he was moving and he was busy. And I said, well, Java II said this, and the man is back was turned to me. And he was working and he just phone just stopped.

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And he had files on his hand and he just dropped them on the table on the desk. And he turned to me. And he frameless. What did you say?

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I said, Well, jaffery says he said Who do you think he is? whiteness hubback. And we one of your friends that you talk addressing like Jafar Idris just have.

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I mean, he was so harsh on me. I felt the tears coming out of my eyes like man, what do they do to this? And I just say Santa Monica walked away.

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But nowadays, it's not like that. And you see this young people Mashallah the they have answer for everything. I stand for every single dollar man, what would advice be for these young people coming

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out on the low side of San Jose, what you say just described what the machete did to him. That's called tarbiyah. Gorilla. And this is something that's missing now. And this is, ya know, what you really can't get even if you're listening to all the tapes and the CDs in the world. Can you take fantastic notes and you memorize every word that came out of the chef's mouth, you heard the lecture online? It's not Serbia, you know, there's something that's missing these days. And a lot of Shabaab, they don't have a lot of respect now. And they can even Ghana, for example, which you have thought about. So suppose you disagree with him, or your mesh, or at least disagree with him on on

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many issues. Does that wipe out all the other good that he's done for so many years that he's been doing? Does that even wipe out the idea that he is older than us in age and he in there's a Masjid in our area, and there's someone older than us, and he's got white hair on his head and white beard, but he does see some things that do make your blood boil, but in the end, he's older than your father, these young men the gutem letterland

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How can you do that? You know, what kind of other is that? And I was I noticed they were thinking you were showing off over to you were on the haka, told him to go tell him you know, something, I always imagine when you guys were talking like this, I told my Imagine if my father came to the masjid, and one of you punks did that then

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what do you think this is? How would you accept if your father came to the masjid? And I said that to your father. This is somebody his father is old white hairs on his head in his beard, and couldn't you disagree with it properly? Can you at least look at the fact that he and he leads us to solid half is the Koran and all these things you don't put any of that into consideration? It's interesting how we are named when the people of fitness surrounded with maravilla in his home and he knows they're gonna kill him because the president told him that he knows they're gonna kill him.

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The Companions came they said these people are leaving us and Salah Should we do he says as long as they're doing good you follow them in it? Yeah, neither do Salah has fallen solo in a fallen man Anything else? Imagine saying this about people are gonna kill you. And now look at the young folks and these he you know, he thugs you know, and you know, electronic thugs, you know, they get on these blogs, they talk for hours, they love fights, you know, so for so and so is Teddy and these guys. One of them was telling me that he could go into one of these websites and see how long the blog response was open. You know, the people make their comments. He said one was open for more than

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three hours the guy's writing a refutation. I guarantee this guy will give them behind it said three hours and read 2020 minutes in Alaska let's find somebody

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not even 20 minutes for the you know, the teddy bear aspect is missing in the Shabaab they don't respect people. I remember one time we were

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We're sitting in it was eight and a blizzard for Roseanne was sitting and he was telling us stories of phenomenal stories about his experiences and his you know, meeting with machinery.

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And then then he would start to ask questions in film and so on. And he would answer there was a young brother sitting there. And every time the chef would answer you tell him that's not a bad response. Yeah, you know? Yeah, you brother. What you're saying is okay, it's not too bad, you know, things like that. And then we were looking at him, where's this guy from man? And then I think a few months later, I walk into a machine this guy's up on him and we're giving

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you maybe you give a lot of you grab a mic. You believe you're somebody now? That's the issue now. They use you speak to a scholar like this. You call him brother. You know? You've seen I've seen people call him a shout, Bro. Bro. Even, you know? How shall I say? Hey, bro?

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Aren't you sweet? Bro?

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Yo, yo, share Ha.

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So, so you know, something respect. I think we said this during the hotbar. You know, if you have knowledge without any good Allah, nobody wants to get that knowledge from you. Nobody wants to deal with you. You know very well, the young guy who knows some knowledge memorize some heavy than I have, but nobody likes him in the machine. You all know somebody like that? Because he has bad trust to bother people you say so what's your demeanor? Even the way you can ask for dinner, you can have a debate at a lie. We know people. We just say hey, what's your daddy? Look at you in a way that's accusatory like they're accusing you of lying or something like that. And Gentle, gentle, gentle

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promiseland was gentle, you claim to follow the Sunnah. And those people they claim to follow the sooner the Prophet was a gentle prophet SAW Selim and he was gentle, even with Bedouin Africans come and grab him. And so it leaves a mark on his neck, and he's still gentle, and you are on the hop around the sooner you root to be alone doesn't make any sense for us, to make us all, you know, very gentle and lenient with one another. Where is the mercy merciful with one another, you know, even someone makes a mistake. You slowly gently you call them and correct them and call them to the truth? If you wish, they may actually have a question concerning that you can address that Buddha

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before your question about that.

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I mean, if you if you if you look into the the books that are written for $1 bill, and this is from the the beauty of Islam, and the beauty of the scholars of Islam is we have so many books they've written from the bigger the early scholars, even to the scholars of today, where they wrote and adapted and how to seek knowledge, what is the proper way to seek knowledge. So they always focus on the adaptive phenomena in any. And they used to say some of them couldn't get the element at the public. They will learn how to have good edit good morals. And as luck before, we will seek knowledge, and also how you speak to your shift, like you mentioned, yo share, or bro and these type

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of things, you only call him in the proper manner, you know, and you're looking at him in the proper and you sit in a proper manner. And as jabril le Islam when he came to the process, and he said when he put his knees next to his knees, and they said this is how a student of knowledge and he should approach in a proper manner to achieve. And also is it even if he or she accepts something that you know, you learned before or yesterday that I did it? Yeah, we took that, you know, like, for example, if I were to come and teach a class now here and so yes, yes, it taught us that. That's not a proper way to teach in a way to deal with somebody who has more knowledge than you, even if he's a

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student. Like we are fees from the machine.

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Also, I mentioned a story it talks about

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every one of my trips to for Sema with the visit shipping with a mean, I was with Dr. Solder solid. May Allah have mercy on him.

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And a guy, I don't know where he's coming from, because people assume you don't dress like this guy. This guy has a baseball cap on some jeans. The chef wants to go into his house. This guy comes he's driving a minivan. And he's going to home the and he gets out to the chef and Doctor signs like oh my god, he said if we even tried to be the one he said a chef would slap us out of edible, you know, just tell me that because because he could do that. And but he because he was from the general people, the chef was very kind to him. Something happened to me a funny story about the chef and I was worrying exactly what you have in your head today. This red Shema,

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we're going to conceive that our students are going to quit. And we pulled into

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casino about 330 in the morning. Yeah, that was 430 in the summertime. So when we you know maybe we'll do in the middle of the shift until the shift came. And so far the most of the shift they would not pray until he comes.

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And just like the subway for the promises that wouldn't be like 20 minutes now shifts as much as 15 seconds late log, but you know, they wait, this is from the sender. By the way, you should wait a little bit for the Imam and not be in a hurry all the time. They will wait but a long time and what time is the son was about to come out. She had I don't know he might have been out of town wasn't there What happened? I don't know. He didn't come that day. And the time of the day I went there another time, and they will wait for him. So we waited for the shift to come and the brother He said that had some questions for him. He said one of them is to ask him about something has to do with an

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Oakland la monzo law which is the ruling

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Other laws because some people were living by other laws law, because some people change the the photo of the shift to be suitable to their photo. And I said the ship won't accept it for me because I'm an American. And he said, you know, what do you care about that you're from America now. And he left and shoveled. And don't waste your time with it ever. And I want to ask the chef, he told me the same thing.

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What do you what do you need from that? And a funny thing was as I was walking next to the ship, have you ever anybody ever seen the ship anyhow, his size, any very small, I think he was any senior small guy, but he's small. To give an example of knowledgeable people were like,

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he's a little smarter than command area is a small guy. So anyways, and he was like, in his 70s. So I was walking had the same shoe mark on, and I couldn't really see next to the ship, but I was really, you know, keen on listening to what he was saying. So and in the ship when we were walking this way, and he wants to go this way towards his house, the road that way. So I guess I kind of cut him off a little bit. And I didn't realize and I weighed over 230 pounds, I'm a big guy, you know, and I found myself over there. The ship put a forum on to me, you know, like, he was a big, you know, fullback pushing out of the way, you know, and I flew, man, he put a forum into, and I flew in

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the back, you know, and I was like, man, I didn't know what's happening. All of a sudden, I couldn't seem to shift, I should probably be pushing like that, you know, I was like, I was really shocked. You know, it's Oh, man, push this way. And I'm a big guy, you know? So I didn't say anything. And one of the brothers who was there from quake was on

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the shift students, he said, the chef has a rule, they say, because you're a student of knowledge, you're asking him questions that are, you know, deep. So you know, you're a student of knowledge. And it was a regular person within it. He said, he said it for you to cut off your [???]. It's not from so he said, the shift by pushing you what was teaching you?

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And I was like, I'm done. Like, I learned it. I'll never do it again. Because I really flew back about five yards back.

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Now, coming back to the

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man, the question or the issue that he cannot address on there was the issue of these people cook Pete young people are quick to criticize the older man.

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And I know some of them for fact, and I'm saying this live and recorded. For fact, some of the people who used to be among those people who make Toba for me, that sometimes they will fabricate things. Sometimes they will say for example, they will say shift bin bags, made fatwa against command in Mk.

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Shell members made photo up against command is Mk. And then you go down on you read the fatwa. And it is true the chef is saying commanded machismo Talia is this is not to say hello, hello, do not pray behind him. Don't make this clear.

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myself. I know all this.

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But in reality, what they did they find a photo of a chef

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responding to an actual move together.

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So they kept the photo of the chef, but they change the name of that Mediterranean and they put your name or his name on my name there. And I know in the area that you were there was a lot of them.

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Do you have any experience? Do you know any of the things that I mean? Is it true? Everything that they say? Because they always say the odometer behind us or automobiles? Or is something that the like to fabricate or create more light over on Mr. Miller under him? Yes, as I studied at that time, what was their headquarters, and now they don't have much any say we're in Medina anymore. The government has taken any the power from obviously and they realized that they actually ended the harm they had to the students. And I recall any one time or actually two times, that it came from the Minister of Interior if it was ever done here, and suddenly but also from the king's chamber

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itself, for these people to stop their nonsense and what they were doing to the students. And they always talk about following the rulers and obeying the rulers. But on this certain situation, they refuse to do it so panela because there was no any so these people I'll tell you what, it was something that happened to me a personal story is that a rumor spread about me that I should talk about the government's after he made the killer video cam he talks about the government's and I thought about it the only governments I know you know that any that you know, that could be you know, I think most of the governments are clear that they're not really about Islam any I live in

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Sudan, I live in Saudi Arabia, and I have good relationships with in in both areas. And even one of my friends is a Prince's younger guy, you know, like I used to visit him and so Arabia and the government should not come to I know a lot of people in the government. We might agree with all the things they have we disagree with some of the things but we have relations with them and you know, our Muslim brothers and what have you. So I thought you know what, what could I have said about anybody like this, you know?

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So the spreading the rumors, and we had a brother from from the UK is a beautiful brother. And he followed it. Who told you? He said, they told me what to say, Who told you he said obeyed. And so he went back to it. And what it was we were sitting, one time in my house, somebody came to visit me. And I said, but who is Musharraf? I said, He's alemanni.

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He said, his role model is commodity Turk. Anybody visit him? That's all I said. So they said, I talked about the governance because I said something about a burrito. And they made something big, like I was making this big tech fee and all the government's. So they'll take something in the fabric and spread it like this. Also, and I remember, something I used to do when it comes to fabricating things is that they will take Kenny, a certain of the scholars who were imprisoned for a certain amount of time, and I think most of the people in you know, their names, they were put in prison for about six years and let out these capacitor effects work for shipping beds, saying that

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they should be stopped if they did not, you know, stop what they were saying and some of the things that they were doing. However, another factor which came right after that, where he praised them, they wouldn't show the students this, they would just show them one and not the other.

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And in general, unfortunately, these people, I like the terminology that should come out he was I think that's classic, and the thugs is the guy. And you'll find that these people they're rejected all throughout the world, you know, in the society. And I heard they have a basement here and in this area, and you know, all around the world is how they are they're not accepted in the Muslim communities. Because any they don't, they're not concerned about the Muslim, all they want to do is talk about Muslims. And the fact that they will talk about any somebody who is honest enough, more than somebody who is far away from the sooner it shows you in the reality of these people. And so I

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sat with them, and I know them very well. And unfortunately, any I don't, I don't blame them. The ones that we have in the West, I don't blame them. Because this is what they have been fed, even some people will move to their, you know, some people just what their machines they teach them. And unfortunately, they come into this, this blind following of what there are many machines, and they believe that these shoe they fly

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through the air and red capes in a leap any tall buildings in a single bound. And this is like and this is the end, when you talk about the message of Edison finding the hole in the center. This is what is totally against this. We say we love our machine, and we take from our machine. And then any recall one time, I'll tell you something, and he was shook up the machine, I bet. And in this issue I went into I had a I had a big running with these, these people I used to go to every time I used to go to shake up the mersin every time. And I remember one time that one of them started talking about me because I used to sit with my shirt off, there's no carry. And he said, I do a lot of

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digital copy is what this guy said he's the enemy of the law. Wow. So he said you have to go to our machine. And I said, I said what? And then I told him I put him on the spot. I said what does he have? He said he's more. So what does he have? He's like

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well, you know, I don't really recall. But our machines No, you have to go to our machine.

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That is the scholar Medina algorithm. As you said Allah is not machines that specialized in the match. You can't go to him What is this and then the scholar was with us from the from this discussion group daddy from the machine. He said he can't stop I want to check out the rest of our buddies when those last one in Medina. So I went to the shack and asked him and he said how the father in G origin he says a very good student knowledge means a lot of good and he praised him so much. He said he went a little overboard and some of his foot was at Medallia Koopa as well as how he felt. And he told me you can benefit from online you know, some scholars saying look at the user

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saying and he's it's it's a totally different totally, totally different worlds you'll see that unfortunately and all they want to focus on is what he's talking about Muslims and I know a lot of these people personally and their communities they have reached a level where it's like this type of object they see that they have made it theirs and they're in the safe zone everybody else is off of it. So this falls the that's why you always find these types of Muslims are always falling into sin. Now if we look at for example, some cities in America on the east coast where the biggest cocaine dealer is what from this group

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any the biggest drug gun gun country in the city from this group? Any

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I don't know when I mentioned about the some of the things that some of the sisters do. I want to mention that here on tape or live here but says it's said because why? because they feel they've made it and there is that's why it's so easy for them to fall into sin. And even in in Medina some of the things that happen some of them may na mulani and he protects all of us and if some evil things, so the end unfortunately we find that they focus on trying to make fitna all the time, no between the Shabaab and talking about the scars and you see the major scholars.

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You know, for example that I remember they told us that all of shivian or Damien's students that are off of it.

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Auto shipping versus students are off of it. So what does that mean? Sure comparison shipping with me as them. Now they told me when I went to a casino stay away from the students of shipping what they mean. They're dangerous. They're this Chicago Muslim,

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shamrock, Meadow Cody, Shira, Mr. Lee, all my machines that I studied under, stay away from the dangerous do this do that, they have to clear out the builder.

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When shared with me before he died in his will. He said what? When I die, he knew his dying class, he was close, you know, he said, when I die, shut up, the Rockman dash is in charge of teaching. Now in my mind, it shocks me It's too late installare, who is married to his daughter, by the way, and he's dangerous, I can't go near him. And he should marry him to his daughters the first test gear for him. And then he told him he becomes the Imam, he becomes the hottie. He becomes the teacher of the teacher have a solid feel for him. And his other son in law, Chicago Muslim teaches it that he's the most dangerous of them, by the way. And he told him, he teaches it to the students when I die.

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So you'll see the scholars saying something and they're saying in the study, they might agree with him on certain issues. So they'll take this and they'll put that in the bright lights. But the issue is they don't agree upon with him, they'll hide it and put it away. And this is very, this is very, very dangerous. And you can any, may Allah protect us all from this? And obviously, you know, I was studying that. And I went through it. And I realized the time that was wasted and deal upon. And you know, so and so is this so and so is that hamdulillah and after about four or five years of going through that Allah guided me and I left, I left that, that ideology. And I remember one time, I've

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benefited a great benefit from shut up the rizek better better

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with a browser deferring something. And he said to me, and I have that found this later on in the book of equal pay myself, but he mentioned that even though pay mentioned that any knowledge that does not increase you any man, it is in mudhole What do you mean? Well, cool, something has been entered, something has been said other than a class. And he says why you find these people talk about this just stay up late at night, so and so is off, so and so's on though By the way, he's back on today. Okay, okay, I'm sorry, I didn't know man. He's back on today. He goes past he's back on the main house today, you will find these people not able to.

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You know. So you'll find now that these people said this in the talking about it's much cooler, it doesn't have a clause in it. As you know, payments in rahimullah, if it doesn't increase you any money, it doesn't bring him closer to Allah subhanho wa Taala, then it's not cool. And he may Allah protect us. And may Allah guide all of us selling them and us to help the homeless shelter and come together is what I'm gonna I mean, some kind of law, it's, it's absolutely true, firsthand experience that most users cross the street of their location firsthand, the economy is called, then it's called a Tommy's called para, we will never we do not go. And the justification was I'm doing

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something greater, and purifying the update of the oma, I'm responding to this. So how to handle a lot of time was wasted. But one thing that we all learned through the years that that idea is like a jahannam, you know, your hand them, it could not find anything to burn, then it would burn itself. So when they find no one available around them to burn, they would just turn to each other. And today, you are muted, and I'm off today, tomorrow and so on, then we start until one of us left in that's what's happening, right. That's exactly what happens. Now, we've talked a lot because I've been trying to cut you off real quick. But I want to say something that might have taught me when I

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left that. And I was pumped up. And I have I took my notebooks I wrote everything I heard from them down, I was gonna get on the internet, and I was gonna refute them, you know, and expose them.

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Some of my machines they taught me they said the best way to do these type of people is to act like they're not even living like they're not even in this world. He said what legends like you said that, like fire each other up. And that's exactly what happened. exactly what happened. I took this from a machine and I don't even know, even now if they were to write something, okay, yeah, okay. And they put something on us about that. And I only want to read it, please. If it comes out tomorrow, don't bring it to him. I don't want to I wouldn't waste my time. And I saw one of the machines when I went to him. And I said so and so said this about you and his book. He said, Well,

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if you haven't seen the book, there's a book you can print likes for six years. And he's been saying really bad stuff about the guy. He said, Allah has to have it. He said, haven't seen the book. And you'll find me they talk about stuff and they don't even know one of our brothers. One of them said something very funny in a conference. It was all these massages in America. They said what do you say about Abu muslimah and his shift instead of going in on him dock dock dock is you know, talking really bad about him. I will muslimah he came to that shift in Cuba and Medina and said, Please tell me these mistakes I have. So you can tell me and this is a guy he has a PhD in Hades and if he just

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now it's never University, unfortunately. And he was like, Oh,

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I really don't know. But you know, I've heard that our machines say about us

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and how can you see

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And this is live on all these links and he's saying about this person who has over 1000 tips and Arpita the person has the biggest machine in America and even like you said if we come after him if we think we might have we learned more than him in Medina or this or this i'm not saying I did I haven't done anything like he's done but look what the brother has done some things we might not agree with that he's that he said but and look what he's done for Islam in the West and this is this one attack him you see any light of Islam they want to put it out so panela them that's what they focus on anybody who's a bit dire they want to what put him out what was

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shipped him LED and ship it to me I just want to focus on these people who have been successful in their data and what they put out this light following with them in order

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for a very unique handle on issue like people banding in the pub and you know people saying issues like that nobody talks about but some handle now we are quick to criticize that that is we're being striving and fighting for the Manage of the setup. Under current law, we left the living ones and sometimes we go to the grave of those who died and we want to say hey look the way they did and so on. So, I want to give take this opportunity and give the brothers on the floor to answer to ask any questions. If you have a question to any of these two speakers, inshallah so just raise your hand and shall repeat your question to the sisters you can hear yourself in the back.

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Welcome to

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HR

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what's

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up

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all

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right.

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How can I help

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the other things Allah Hale is saying and hamdulillah for the people who come to the Maasai for salata, Juma, they do sacrifice a lot of times, because the take off time from the work and they come and so on. And instead of them when you find

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coming when you come to the masjid, he says the hot leave is just repeating everything from the Quran and Sunnah. However, basically, he's not dealing with the current issue, as I think, understood, or he's not giving what is needed at that time to the community who came to spend time and sacrifice time to listen, how should we approach such a hot lever? How should we correct him? And Michelle, I will give this question to hold on, come on.

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It's below 100 level. So as we

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look

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at it, perhaps Michelle have different opinions and they can feel free. But if the mom is not untouchable, Danny, and there isn't there isn't anyone in the oma not even the holly for the hockey man that you can't approach and give and correct or rectify, as long as it's done properly, with good with good manners that you can go up to him and thank him for his efforts and so on and so forth and tell him and and you can even do it in an indirect way and suggest you know, this is a good topic, you know, what do you think we address this issue or that issue because so many people, it affects their life, but they don't know about it, and they don't get a chance to hear about it.

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And when you give the hopper, you've got 500 people who are sitting and not speaking and not playing games, and they're willing to listen to you. What do you think if we use this topic, you can suggest to them and you don't have to necessarily go and say, hey, I've been praying in this machine for the last year and you give the most horrible topic of topics I've ever seen in my life. You just do it in a nice way. And so it's not that they're so untouchable that you can go to them as long as you do it with with good manners. Now, I would like to add

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two pieces, pieces of advice that will make your life easier when listening to any football, no matter how horrible or no matter how many times you heard it this way you benefit from me, because a lot of times people go and they want to hear stories, right? They want to take them up and then bring them down and make them cry and make them laugh and make them sad and make them happy. And if you're not enough stories, people like kind of just want entertainment, you know, they want to be

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Handsome, you want him to have long hair that blows in the wind? They want to have no accent and to be eloquent in English and in Arabic and to make no grammatical mistakes and yeah, what do you want? Exactly? You know, and then they when you give them a good holiday like that, and they want a different topic like they can be okay, let me see different so it's like a movie. Now we've seen this movie, we see another one. I'll tell you something, two things. One, when the Habib is speaking, and he says an ayah, and Hadid focus on that, let that be your master. And you've all been to a place or heard the hotel. It was just horrible. Everything the accent was horrible. The mom was

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stuttering the end it just it wasn't working at all. But he was saying if an ad. So focus on this is an ad. And then test yourself because a lot of people say we need to have some new hardware, this old stuff before, you know, the other day, I was going to give a lecture and everybody kept warning me give them new ad. So in the in the beginning, I told my lie. I was told to find Junior Hardy, but I couldn't find any every what I found is about 1430 years old.

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It's not about the new material. It's about this old material. Do you apply it? And this this is a culture now that has developed which is a nightmare. People just want to see a what is what is is new, I know this, I know this, I heard this before? No, it's not about that. It's about do you apply that or not? So you can do this even if the theme is horrible. When he says the Hadith, no, pay attention to it and then say, Okay, do I apply this or not? Can I start applying this or not? When I go home? He says and I okay, I heard this? Oh, yeah, you heard that before. But do you apply the item before the AI is gonna come on the day of judgment and other testify for you or against you, he

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acted upon me he didn't act upon me. If we focus on on benefiting and applying that knowledge, you will benefit from any football. Now beyond the report was still horrible, you can still approach the amount. And if you feel if you feel to add to that formula, I think a good way is if you see somebody who's a good friend of the Imam

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for example, if I were to give the football here and you didn't like my foot buzz, and it come as my friend has an idea it would be you know, somebody could come to him and tell him that probably an easier way to approach the mom. And then also I want like he mentioned a lot of people you have to realize any even in the in the East now there's not a lot of footballs

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any even now, like in some of the like the two holy ones before they were there, they have to read you know, so it's not really it's like a real Goodbye, no. But when even when you go to Eastern countries, you know, Sudan, Egypt, there are good kotoba obviously, but not all the quarterbacks are good. So when you're here in the West End, the majority of kotoba and originally not called about, but for some reason, there was nobody else to do it. So he was forced to do it. So you have to realize this and bear with him. And this is a good very good point. And I've benefited when he mentioned right now about just focus on the identities because the students used to come to me and

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any the majority of the teachers that used to teach us or maybe half of them, they weren't that good and he had he had knowledge, but it just wasn't good at teaching. So I told them for example, I said the teachers very boring What do we do? And because I was the older student and they were the younger students, I said yes he what is the what is the book that is the makhado you have to you have to study he said if serum Kathy, I said

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even Kathy Rajesh might get the retest here from Kathy and go in and show your benefit something from what he says. But it's so this is a good point that he mentioned that you know, focus on ideas and implement in their lives. That's a very good point. I have benefited a lot from that.

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Any more questions? shala. Yes.

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observation is

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that the predicate all depends on the content. Like for example,

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if the how many Wi

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Fi and all these things are being fed to the RPF at 2pm tip that would tell me every day

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give an

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example to say that

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I saw this

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I heard about this incident this

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Bobby

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oh

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man look at picking him from the gym.

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Know that story and if you remember the story that any that the shift my mother whoever I'm alone when he was teaching the students to heat whether it was from keto or just general classroom to heat, their like everyday to heat their either give us something new. So he mentioned that he said they need to teach them lesson. He said you know today, excuse me have to go to such

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In such a place because we heard a story about somebody, Waka allomi that he had insects with his mother. And

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you know, and then he came back he mentioned that, you know, he said, okay, we just found that they had slaughtered for the jinn at their house within one house. So like I'm gonna butcher with Iranians is a good thing. And he said, You see what I'm saying? Because this is actually him having insist is insured is actually worse than insists. So he said this is important stuff. So he had always been into heat. And so it's it's a it's a good story. Yeah, sure.

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Any more questions, Shawn love. The thing is that we are going to have a question and answer session about different things. No, this is now just a

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personal thing. So the questions about the things we took in the conference is going to come either after mobilego after Isha one of the two I shall know. So it's just a personal because you have totally

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Tamara and a

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man with evening.

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Taken that's

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why we left.

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This

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table I want

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to take a look to

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talk

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about

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definitely Yeah.

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Bismillah R Rahman r Rahim na, most people will talk about migrating to the east once they actually do go.

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They usually can't they can't take it. You know, I recall one of the brothers and his his wife, she was like one of the head on the internet about the it's wiser to make headway and we have to go in this. When they finally went to Sudan. She had a difficult she had to go back to America. She couldn't take it there. Even though she was you know, for years, she's been calling to hedgerow and what have you. And he had you in general in love, because you have been watching, but you have to make a draw from the land of cover to the end of Islam. But the reality especially those of us who grew up here, and we have a difficult and it's almost impossible, and he goes this the system of

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life there. It's just so different and so different from what we're used to, it's almost impossible. And it sounded like you mentioned here and you look at us today, we're in Canada, in Toronto, and we're here with our Islamic attire and our beards, and we're in the masjid and we're talking about Islam.

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And he looked now here when we come for Abu huraira braselton budget, and most Islamic countries, you don't find as many Muslims do Mashallah, Allah WooCommerce, a little faster. So the say if you want to it's here. Now, obviously any the shorter is more here that he was more, it's more difficult to show that will be more of an agile for those who are able to hold on to the vision and in an environment like this. And obviously, we'll have more.

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So I mean, obviously, I can't say Don't go. And it's not a good idea to go. But because it was a good thing for you and your kids if you go, but what we found the majority of the time is that a lot of people, they put a lot of effort into making hedra. And at the end, it doesn't work for them. So you should at least try to hold on to Islam here and be with the Muslim community,

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in Shama, the pharaohs here hamdallah.

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Let me go back to the person questions. And that's

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what we're gonna come back to.

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We will answer all the filter questions later in Sharla. But now, it's better that you do the first question. Yeah.

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Go ahead.

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Like, you know, like,

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they cannot tell us

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about our industry knowledge.

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Can you repeat the question? The question is, how I gained my vast, vast, vast

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lack of knowledge and

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whether it was in the east and the west, and then how I gained my my superb, superb, superb Tao skills. And I have one for this Don't forget, I have to add something to his answer. Cuz I know something you guys don't know. Don't ever forget.

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See this? Why don't like things like this. Yeah. Okay, go for it.

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Okay, well, basically, it's very simply I started in, in Sudan. And it's interesting that actually, I actually met him recently in Sudan. And he was last year, this year, about a

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year ago, we just met briefly. And then, when, as we were talking, we discovered that we met in 9494. And we both forgot that we met at 94. So about 94, I started to go to a message that the that the Imam was one of the students of scheffel Albania, Kamala is an amateur sangharsh fellow lon, he's a Syrian scholar is a blind man, you know, amazing is to proceed in his memory and his recitation, you find find some of his work online, because, you know, oh, can I add to this phenomenon? So, you know, I would attend a lot of his classes that will hit another class near our neighborhood and pay the class, you know, the 10, that, then I there was one point where I had the

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class every day of the week, but they weren't all at his level, the Messiah, but it was good enough level for me and, and then, in 96, when we moved to Virginia, or Washington, DC area, and and there because as the chef's aide was saying, there, there was a branch, there was a matt had there, and all the names that he was mentioning, in the beginning, all these machines were teachers there, there was they've been situated there for years. I didn't attend them I had, I was initially going to stop school and then attend them at the end of January trees, have it all actually told me not to do it. And I was angered in the beginning, like, why not stop with studying about dunya to study,

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you know, the deen. And later on, I discovered that there was more Baraka in his opinion, because he was right, you know, I would have regretted severely, and in my head would have shut down before I could have even gotten my degree. So I find myself with nothing in my hand. So, but, but we were able to benefit with some of the machines, like I was mentioning, some of them will have classes with them and in their home privately, towards the end with them I had was was about to close and started to attend some classes, just, you know, just sit and take notes, not necessarily registered at the mat. But like I said, the most benefit we got was from Jeff and Idris Shalit, me we had an

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Islamic where the center was called double outcome. And, you know,

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exactly, well, I have mercy on it, because it shut down after 911 from all the pressures, you know, so. So there. So there, we, you know, took a lot of classes in Falcon and other issues, and it was very beneficial. As far as the Dow is concerned.

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I was,

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I was basically put in a position, there was a man who was the chaplain or a man of George Mason University, and then he left and he put me in his place, and they will put shoes to fill, and I never could fill his shoes. But what happened was that the Dow was a little weak there. And the two three year history of the school that had or of the MSA, they had two or three charges. So two, three charges in two or three years, so about a year. So when I, when I became the chaplain there, we, we wanted to, you know, revamp the whole dollar table and everything. So I for the first time ever, I put together a dowel workshop, and I gave it a catchy title, which become became a very

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popular book called How To Get A Shahada in 10 minutes, and it was supposed to be a catchy title, every now and then I get these angry Muslims out there, you assume you can do it in 10 minutes. That's not the point. But

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we did it in the middle of the semester. And we did it like over over two days, it's about a six hour course. And at the from the middle till the end of the semester, about 15 or 17, people became Muslim. And people started becoming Muslim left and right professors and instructors at the school and students and everything. So one person was, you know, amazed by what's happening. They called their cousin in Ohio and said, you know, you know, we had this workshop and it made a big difference to the dollar table. So then Ohio invited me over and then this other MSA invited me and then, you know, Mohawk University in Canada invited me and then the UK. And then it started to it moved on

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from there. But how how I learned the techniques. We used to know some American African American brothers that were that were very effective, God extremely effective. And it like like I always mentioned, they could get 60 shudders in a day 66 zero in one day. So we tried to learn from them how they do it. We gave them venues, I had a radio show, every day, given the last 15 minutes of the show to teach us how to do dollar for a full year. They never got into it. They just kept talking about the intention of the day. Fine, but I want to know when I get in the street and someone says Hey, are you Muslim? Tell me about Islam. What do I do? So I could take the Shahada within a few

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minutes. So the whole year they couldn't tell us how to do it. Another good one, we made dinner we got a venue we advertise and he's gonna teach us how to give that away. He came and spoke about the hellfire. So I said okay, let's let's turn this the other way. I start

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Hanging out with them in the streets. And I learned, you know, the techniques that they were using. And but what I did, the only thing that I did was I just put it in like a systematic way and put the evidences for each technique from the Koran or from the center of the process. Or from, you know, the sciences of psychology and sales, negotiation, everything is as they are in it, and put it together in a package and President the first time it got results, so we learned that you could actually teach people with no doubt experience, how to give that one become effective to art. And, and from there on, you know, I started giving it worldwide, and then someone put it online, then I

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started getting emails from around the world, you know, as someone in Riyadh started giving the power to the immigrant to the non Muslims there. And for like four years ago, they had like 60 people coming into Islam. As a, you know, group in Toronto, they initially heard it online as well. And they brought like, probably around 200, now to Islam, but they retained a good percentage of them as well. So

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that's how the whole thing started initially in in Sudan, when I started, I started reading the books of shadows at that time, a whole lot. And you know, learning you know, how to debate biblically and things like that. And when I came to the US, I was I was hoping that I'm going to have intellectual discussions with people and people will be very educated. And I found people were yummy for the amount of knowledge at their fingertips very ignorant, and especially about religion. So I and I still wanted to debate biblically, which was the old style, and we just debate that style. And I find out that they don't they either have to teach them first of all the Bibles will

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come and debate them using the Bible. So, you know, we discover that there are better methods in doing that. And I always tell people that watch him Allah did with Jimmy Swaggart, that debate, which is an acceptable form, and it has its place and its time. The problem is the debate became so popular, people thought that was the norm. That that's how you deal with things. And that's why wherever you go worldwide, you find people roughed in and dealt with trying to put people in a tough spot and embarrass them. But the truth is, you know, that one is an invitation and I would say, you probably heard me say this before, if that was an invitation, what is the last time someone invited

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you like this grabbed you by the next listen this video at my house eight o'clock? You better show up? Has anyone ever invited you like that? So if it's an invitation to Islam, it can't be a fight it has to be something nice nice to see something gentle. So that's in a nutshell Danny, the story I just want to address want to add something here when we met and then recently and we were talking you know, I was we we realized we both kind of learned that the basis of a dow from the same ship the same Juma football

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from Chicago center, Ashish Allah and we pray that every Friday and people come from far distance different this year he was so good and it's called but and it's Arabic was just so beautiful. I just there Mashallah, Allah, every citation that a Mashallah just amazing. So

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he was telling me that, you know, he lives inside here he lives in Pakistan. His father was ambassador to Sudan. Sounds like yeah, I said, I remember in 94 there was this little scrawny kid really short, really skinny, skinny, he's always come with a tape recorder and put it on the shifts, the mimbar No, small, small kid and his father was an ambassador. He was like, that was me. And I was like, and then he told me another story. I remember this white guy, you stand with this other brother named Mukhtar really tall, really skinny, you know, and I'm really totally fat now, you know? So I was like, that was me. And so we had known each other that whole time we hung out and we

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didn't realize it was it because he changed a lot more shall he grow and get a little bigger.

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And I became a

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I grew a lot

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wider during that time. So I looked a lot different so it's actually funny, we've been hanging out for like any I think it's more than a second time. So it was like a few months we hung out together. We didn't realize we had known each other that whole time I Shama

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now, I think this was one of the most enjoyable lectures or talk that he ever heard. I was very informative and very beautiful. Shut all the answers were well put out, may Allah reward them both. And I'll reward you for listening inshallah. inshallah, we will resume with the rest of the lectures, which

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level is, and the Muslims, when they have shortcomings, we have shortcomings, we still have a lot of good hamdullah. And this is what we know, even like in Sudan, unfortunately, the situation, it's not going like it is, you know, like, we want it to the hijab and other things, it's really going in a bad direction. But it needs to know Muslims to say we still have something called a sometimes a shame, if you do it, you know, and you've come to Western societies, you don't have that. So the Muslims have dealt with the backwardness that they have. And everything is you know, as the brother said, and then when you go to the Muslim country, it's run by IBM, and I thought about the computer

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company, IBM, he said no, inshallah bucur meaning tomorrow in my life, sorry. And he said,

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The Muslim way of life. Because you know, when they go and you go to them, they said, Yeah, can you do this and you go to the essential Allah. Then you come back. He says, You Buccola come back in tomorrow and I'll give it to you. You come up, of course still not ready, says Manish and em. So it's not, it's not ready. So any handle has a lot of people say we know we learned Islam before we saw the Muslims out. There was an event that we still have a lot of good in our own mind. And you see the Shabaab coming out. Now. This is evidence of this crater and is good.

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Another question that I have a corner for when I come out McKee

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is a point that I have mentioned, and this is the respect that the young people nowadays have for scholars, is

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Shu, flexlm, issawi, jaffery degrees. And they are so ignorant, that they can they think they can review them, they can correct them, they can talk to them. And so Panama, I remember when we were at the math, and useful part of our we came, though we distribute with him a lot of things that he does. So we went to him. And we and we didn't go to him actually, farther and farther and farther than we were there and a small group of students, and we were so hurt that the man even is in town, not letting along that you know, and we were so eager to go and just tell him who he is. And he just stays with us. And you know, and we thought the shoe under hasn't frozen fat in phase. There was a

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Masha Allah, you're on the hook, you're on the sun, and tell him this too. And tell them that too. But instead of getting that from them, they just destroy us on the spot. And then who are you? Who are you to address your use of as you call him?

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Who are you? And then the teachers, they just tell us there? And they say we don't even talk to him like that. And Pamela sent a schwa you remember from I came to him to his office one day. And I said, well, and the sheriff was busy fixing his papers, and he's in his office and he was moving and he was busy. And I said, Well jaffery said this and the man is back was turned to me and he was working and he just fell, just stopped.

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And he had files on his hand and he just dropped them on the table on the desk. And he turned to me and he Frommer's. What did you say?

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I said well jaffery says he said Who do you think he is? whiteness havoc and we one of your friends that you talk to addressing like Java or Idris just have

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I mean he was so harsh on me. I felt the tears coming out of my eyes like man, what did they do to this? And I just say Santa Monica walked away

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but nowadays is not like that. And you see this young people Mashallah the they have answer for everything. I stand for every single dollar man what what advice be for these young people coming?

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out hungry lol savusavu Allah what just I just described what the Messiah did to him that's called Serbia. And this is something that's missing now and this is

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what you really can't get even if you listen to all the tapes and the CDs in the world and you take fantastic notes and you memorize every word that came out of the chef's mouth you heard the lecture online. It's not Serbia No, this is something that's missing these days and a lot of Shabaab they don't have a lot of respect now and they can even Ghana for example, which I have thought about So suppose you disagree with him or or your mesh or at least disagree with him on on many issues. Does that wipe out all the other good that he's done for so many years that he's been doing? Does that even wipe out the idea that he is older than us in age and he in there's a Masjid in our area and

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there's someone older than us and he's got white hair on his head and white beard but he does say some things that do make your blood boil but in the end he's older than your father these young men the good in the doldrums

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How could you do that? You know, what kind of other is that? And I was always telling they were thinking you were showing off over to you were on the haka told him wish she go told me you know, something, I always imagine when you guys were talking like this, I told my Imagine if my father came to the masjid and want to you punks did that then

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what do you think this is? Hello, would you accept if your father came to the masjid? And I said that to your father. This is somebody whose father is old white hairs on his head and his beard, and couldn't you disagree with properly Can you at least look at the fact that he and he leads us in solid half is of the Koran and all these things. You don't put any of that into consideration. It's interesting how we are

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When the people fitnah surrounded with metal dealer in his home and he knows they're going to kill him because the president told him that he knows they're gonna kill him.

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The Companions came they said, These people are leaving us in Salah. Who should we do? He says as long as they're doing good you follow the minute yeah neither do Salah has fallen solo and not follow them anything else. Imagine saying this about people are going to kill you. And now look at the young folks and these he you know, he thugs, you know, electronic thugs, you know, they get on these blogs, they talk for hours, they love fights, you know, so for so and so is there and these guys, one of them was telling me that he could go into one of these websites and see how long that blog response was open. You know, the people make their comments. He said one was open for more than

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three hours the guy's writing a refutation. I guarantee this guy will give him behind it said three hours and read 2020 minutes in

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20 minutes for the you know, the therapy aspect is missing in Shabaab. They don't respect people. I remember one time we were we were sitting and it was eight and a blizzard Roseanne was sitting and he was telling us stories are phenomenal stories about his experiences, and he's in a meeting with Medallia.

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And then then he would start to ask questions in films and so on. And he would answer there was a young brother sitting there and every time the chef would answer you tell him that's not a bad response. Yeah, you know, yeah, you Brother What you're saying is okay, it's not too bad, you know, things like that. And then we were looking at where's this guy from then? And then I think a few months later I walk into a machine this guy's up on the member giving also you maybe give a lot of you grab a mic you believe you're somebody now that's the issue now they use you speak to a scholar like this. You call him Brother, you know? You've seen I've seen people call myself Bro. Bro, even

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you know? Mashallah. Say Hey, bro.

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Aren't you sweet? Bro?

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Yo, yo, share, huh?

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So, so, you know, something respect, I think we said this during the hotbar. You know, if you have knowledge without any good, nobody wants to get that knowledge from you. Nobody wants to deal with you. You know very well, the young guy who knows some knowledge, memorize some hobbies. And if but nobody likes him in the machine. You all know somebody like that? Because he has bad the flop tries to bother people you say so what's your demeanor? Even the way you can ask for dinner you can have at the minute. We know people, we just say what's your daddy? Look at you in a way that's accusatory like they're accusing you of lying or something like that. And Gentle, gentle, gentle promiseland

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was gentle, you claim to follow the Sunnah. And those people they claim to follow the Sunnah of the Prophet was a gentle prophet SAW Selim and he was gentle, even with veterinarians would come and grab him until it leaves a mark on his neck, and he's still gentle, and you are going to hop around the sooner and your route to be alone doesn't make any sense for us, to make us all, you know, very gentle and lenient with one another. Where is the mercy merciful with one another, even someone makes a mistake? you slowly gently you call them and correct them and call them to the truth that if you

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actually have a question concerning that you can address that Buddha before your question about that person or another name, if you if you if you look into the the books that are written for $1 bill, and this is from the the beauty of Islam, the beauty of the scholars of Islam, as we have so many books they've written from the bigger the early scholars, even to the scholars of today, where they wrote and adapted and how to seek knowledge, what is the proper way to seek knowledge. So they always focus on the adapt, but polybrene any nice to see some of them couldn't get the element at the end, they will learn how to have good edit good morals, and as luck before, we will seek

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knowledge and also how you speak to your shift like you mentioned Yoshi, or bro and these type of things, you only call him in the proper manner, you know, and you look at him in the proper and you sit in a proper manner. And as gibreel le slam when he came to the premises, and he said what he put his knees next to his knees. And they said this is how student knowledge and he should approach it in a proper manner to his shear. And also is it even if he or she accepts something that you know, you learned before or you have studied that? I did it? Yeah, we took that. You know, like, for example, if I were to come and teach a class now here and this is just a thought is that it's not a

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proper way to teach a way to deal with somebody who has more knowledge than you, even if he's a student, like we are facing from the machine.

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Also, I mentioned a story about Adam. I remember one of my trips to Cosima with the visit chef and what they mean. I was with Dr. Solder solid. May Allah have mercy on him.

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And a guy, I don't know where he's coming from and because people want to see me don't dress like this guy. This guy has a baseball cap on some jeans. The chef wants to go into his house. This guy comes he's driving a minivan and he's going home the and he gets out to the ship. And Dr. styles like oh my god, he said we even tried to be the one that I used to ship with slap us up you know, just tell me that because because you could do that.

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And but he because he was from the general people, the chef was very kind to him. Something happened to me a funny story about the chef and I was worrying exactly what you have in your head today is red Shema.

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We're going to proceed, excuse me, we're going to quit. And we pulled into

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about 330 in the morning there that was 430 in the summertime. So when we, you know, maybe we'll do in the middle of the shift until the shift came so far, and there was a shift, they would not pray until he comes.

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And just like the subway, for the purposes that it wouldn't be, like 20 minutes now shifts as much as 15 seconds late, a lot. But you know, they wait, this is from the center. By the way, you should wait a little bit for the Imam and not be in a hurry all the time. They will wait but a long time and what time is the son was about to come out. She had I don't know, he might have been out of town wasn't there? What happened? I don't know. He didn't come that day. And the time of the day, I went there another time. And they would wait for him. So we waited for the chef to come. And the brother he said I have some questions for him. He said one of them is to ask him about something has to do

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with an Oakland la Monza law, which is the ruling by other laws, because some people were ruling by other laws law, because some people change the the federal of the shift to be suitable to their federal. And I said the ship won't accept it for me because I'm an American. And he say, you know, what do you care about that? You're from America. Now. In a nutshell, we'll be heading. And don't waste your time with it. Everyone, I want to ask the chef, he told me the same thing.

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What do you what do you need from them? And a funny thing was as I was walking next to the ship, have you ever anybody ever seen a chef and he held his size? Any very small, I think he was a senior small guy, but he's small enough to give an example of knowledgeable people were like, Yeah,

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he's a little smarter than command area is a small guy. So anyways, and he was like in his 70s. So I was walking had the same Shema on and I couldn't really see next to the ship, but I was really, you know, keen, or listen to what he was saying. So and in the ship when we were walking this way, and he wants to go this way towards his house the road that way. So I guess I kind of cut him off a little bit. And I didn't realize and I weighed over 230 pounds, I'm a big guy, you know, and I found myself over there. The ship put a forum on to me, you know, like, there was a big, you know, fullback pushing out of the way, you know, and I flew, man, he put a forearm into him. I flew in the

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back, you know? And I was like, man, I didn't know what's happening. All of a sudden, I couldn't sit in the ship. And we should probably he pushed me like that, you know, I was like, I was really shocked, you know, is Oh, man. I feel this way. And I'm a big guy. So I didn't say anything. And one of the brothers who was there from Kuwait, who was on

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the shift students. He said, The ship has a rule, they say cuz you're a student of knowledge. You're asking him questions that are, you know, deep. So you know, you're a student of knowledge. And it was a regular person within us. He said, he said it for you to cut off your [???]. It's not from me. So he said the shift by pushing you what was teaching you?

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And I was like, I'm done. Like I learned it. I'll never do it again. Because I really flew back about five yards back.

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Now, coming back to the

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man, the question or the issue that he ran the command address on there was the issue of these people cook Pete young people are quick to criticize their own amount.

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And I know some of them for facts. And I'm saying this live and recorded. For fact, some of the people who used to be among those people who make Toba for me that sometimes they will fabricate things. Sometimes they will say for example, they will say chef bin Baz made fatwa against command and MK

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Chavez made photo up against command Mk. And then you go down and you read the first one. And it is true. The chef is saying commanded machismo Talia is this is not to say hello, hello, do not pray behind him. Don't make this clear.

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myself. I know all this.

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But in reality, what they did they find a photo of a chef

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responding to an actual move to there.

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So they kept the photo of the chef, but they changed the name of that material and the put your name or his name on my name there. And I know in the area that you were there was a lot of them.

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Do you have any experience? Do you know any of the things that I mean? Is it true? Everything that they say? Because they always say the aroma behind us? Adam? I agree there's always something that the unlike to fabricate or create more light over on

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him? Yes, as I studied at that time, what was their headquarters? And now they don't have much any say we're in Medina anymore. The government has taken any the power from obviously and they realized that they actually ended the harm they had to the students. And I recall any one time or actually two times

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It came for the Minister of Interior if it was done here, and suddenly, but also from the king's chamber itself, for these people to stop their nonsense and what they were doing to the students, and they always talk about following the rulers and obeying the rulers, but on this certain situation, they refuse to do it. So panola going there, because there was no any. So these people, it was something that happened to me a personal story is that a rumor spread about me that I used to talk about the government's abderrahim indicator of an outcome he talks about the government's and I thought about it the only governments I know. You know, that any that you know, that could be you

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know, I think what's the government's are clear that they're not really about Islam, any I live in Sudan, I live in Saudi Arabia, and I have good relationships within in both areas. And even one of my friends is a Prince's younger guy, you know, like, I used to visit him. And so Arabia and the government is should that come down to a lot of people in the government? Who might not agree with all the things they have? We disagree with some of the things but how do we have relations with them? And, you know, our Muslim brothers and what have you. So I thought, you know, what, what could I have said about anybody like this, you know, so they're spreading the rumors. And we had a brother

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from from the UK is a beautiful brother. And he followed it, Who told you? He said, they told me what to say, Who told you, he said, obeyed. And so he went back to it. And what it was, we were sitting, one time in my house, somebody came to visit me. And I said, Bruce Musharraf, I said, He's an old man, he,

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he said, his role model is commodity Turk, and he was a visiting. That's all I said. So they said, I talked about the governance because I said something about the razor and they made something big, like I was making this big tech fee and all the government's. So they'll take something in the fabricate and spread it like this. Also, and I remember something I used to do when it comes to fabricating things is that they would take Kenyan certain of the scholars who were imprisoned for a certain amount of time, and I think most of the people I know their names, they were put in prison for about six years and let out, they used to pass out of fence work for shipping bears, saying that

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they should be stopped with it and, you know, stop what they were saying and some of the things that they were doing. However, another factor, which came right after that, where he praised them, they wouldn't show the students this, they would just show them one and not the other.

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End in general, unfortunately, these people, I like the terminology they use, I think that's classic, and the thugs is the guy. And you'll find that these people they rejected all throughout the world, you know, in the society, and I heard they have a basement here and in this area, and you know, all around the world. That's how they are they're not accepted in the Muslim communities. Because any they don't, they're not concerned about the Muslim boom, all they want to do is talk about Muslims. And the fact that they will talk about any somebody who is on the Sunnah, more than somebody who is far away from the sooner it shows you in the reality of these people. And so I sat

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with them, and I know them very well. And unfortunately, any, I don't, I don't blame them. The ones that we have in the West, I don't blame them. Because this is what they have been fed, even some people, you know, some people that's what their machines they teach them. And unfortunately, they come into this this blind following of what many machines say, and they believe that these shoe could they fly through the air and red capes and a leap any tall buildings in a single bound. And this is like, and this is the end when you talk about the message of Ellison falling. The cornerstone of this is what is totally against this, you know, shall we say, we love our machines,

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and we take from our machine. And then any recall one time, I'll tell you something, and he was shook up the machine, not bad. And in this issue, I went into I had a I had a big running with these, these people I used to go to every time I used to go to shake up the machine every time. And I remember one time that one of them started talking about me because I used to sit with my shift Shut up. There's no carry. And he said, I do a lot of digital carry is what this guy said he's the enemy of the law. I was like, wow, no. So he said, you have to go to our machine. And I said, I said what? And then I told him I put him on the spot. I said, What does he have? He said he's more. So

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what does he have? He's like,

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Well, you know, I don't really recall. But our machines know. You have to go to our machine. I said, I've got to check out the wrestler, but he's the scholar Medina Rodimus. He's not machines that specialized in the match. You can't go to what is this? And then this scholar was with us from the from the discussion group, the idea from them. He said he can't stop it. I want to check out the rest in our bodies when those laws are in Medina. So I went to the chef and asked him and he said how the honor indeed, origin he says a pretty good student College is a lot of good and he plays him so much. He said he went a little overboard and some of his foot was at Medallia Cuba as well as how

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he felt. And he told me you can benefit from your life, you know, some scholars saying Look at the view they're saying and he's it's it's a totally different, totally, totally different worlds. You'll see that unfortunately and all they want to focus on is what is talking about Muslims. And I know a lot of these people personally and their communities they have reached a level where it's like this

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type of erasure, they see that they have made it theirs, they're in a safe zone, everybody else is off of it. So this falls the that's why you always find these types of Muslims are always falling into sin. Now if we look at, for example, some cities in America on the East Coast, where the biggest cocaine dealer is what? From this group

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and he the biggest drug gun gun gun trade in the city from this group, any

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I don't know when I mentioned about DNA, some of the things that some of the sisters do, I don't want to mention that here on tape or live here. But it's the set. Because why? because they feel they've made it. And there is that's why it's so easy for them to fall into sin. And even in Medina, some of the things that happen some of them make any money, and he protect all of us and it was it was some evil things. So the end unfortunately, we find that they focus on trying to make fitna all the time, no between the Shabaab and talking about the scars. And you see the major scholars

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you know, for example that I remember they told us that all of shipping Eau de means students that are off of it on of shipping versus students are off of it. So does that make sure who buys and shipping with me as them? Now they told me when I went to a casino stay away from the students of shipping what they mean? They're dangerous do this show called musli

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Shahrukh no Cody shirodhara destruction is too late. All my machines that I studied under, stay away from the dangerous do this do that they have to clear out the builder.

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When shared with me before he died in his will. He said what? When I die, he knew his dance class. He knew his clothes, you know, he said when I die, shut up the ramen dash is in charge of teaching Neto, in my mind, Mr. Chef Sam installare, who is married to his daughter, by the way, and he's dangerous, I can't go near him. And he should marry him to his daughters the first test gear for him. And then he told him he becomes the Imam, he becomes the hottie. He becomes the teacher of the teacher of a solid fit for him and his other son in law, Shahada Muslim teachers up here, and he's the most dangerous of them, by the way. And he told him to stop it and to see it to the students

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when I die. So you'll see the scholars saying something and they're saying some of the study, they might agree with him on certain issues. So don't take this and put that in the bright lights. But the issues they don't agree upon with him, they'll hide it and put it away. And this is very, this is very, very dangerous. And you can any May Allah protect us all from this? And obviously, you know, I was studying that. And I went through it. And I realized the time that was wasted and and and to Paul and you know so and so is this so and so is that I'm gonna and after about four or five years of going through that Allah guided me and I left I left that that ideology and I remember one

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time I benefited a great benefit from shut off the rizek battle but there

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were the brothers were deferring something and he said to me and I have that found this later on in the book of unifying myself, but he mentioned that even though he mentioned that any knowledge that does not increase you any man it is in mudhole What does it mean? Something has been entered something has meant it other than a class and he says why you find these people will talk about this they stay up late at night so on so it's all sorts on no by the way he's back on today. Okay, okay, I'm sorry. I didn't know man. He's back on today. He goes past he's back on the main house today. You'll find these people all day but they'll get a free slot and

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you know, so you'll find now that these people said this in the talking about it's not cool it doesn't have a clause in it as in no payments and rahimullah if it doesn't increase you any money isn't bringing you closer to Allah subhanho wa Taala then it's in my pool. And may Allah protect us And may Allah guide all of us and them and us to help the woman shell and come together as one Angelica. I mean, some kind of law, it's it's absolutely true. first hand experience that most users cross the street of their location firsthand, the economist called a dentist called The Economist called para, we would never we do not go and the justification was I'm doing something greater and

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purifying the update of the oma, I'm responding to this. So how to handle a lot of time was wasted but one thing that we all learned through the years that that idea is like a Johanna you know, your hand them, if it could not find anything to burn, then he would burn itself. So when they find no one available around them to burn, they would just turn to each other. And today you are maintaining an arm of tether tomorrow and so on then we start until one of us left in that's what's happening right that's exactly what happens. Now, we talked a lot because I cut you off real quick this was it. I want to say something that my machine when I left that and I was pumped up and I have I took

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my notebooks I wrote everything I heard from them down. I was gonna get on the internet and I was gonna refute them you know and expose them.

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Some of my machines they taught me they said the best way to deal with these type of people is to act like they're not even living like they're not even in this world. He said what legends like you said that like fire the eat each other up. And that's exactly what happened. exactly what happened. And I took this from I'm a chef and I don't even know even now if they were to you know, write something

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No, okay. Yeah, okay. And they put something on us about that. And I only want to read it please, if it comes out tomorrow, don't bring it to him. I don't want to be I wouldn't waste my time. And I saw one of the machines when I went to him. And I said, so and so said this about you and his book. He said, Well, if you haven't seen the book, there's a book, you can print likes for six years. And he's been saying really bad stuff about the guy. He said, Well, I had to have it. He said, haven't seen the book. And you'll find me they talk about stuff, and they don't even know one of the brothers. One of them said something very funny in a conference that was all these massage in

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America. They said, What do you say about abbotsleigh and his shift instead of going in on a doctor, you know, talking really bad about him? I will muslimah he came to that shift in Cuba and Medina, and said, Please tell me these mistakes I have, so you can tell me and this is a guy who has a PhD in hygiene and if he says no, it's not the university unfortunately. And he was like, Oh,

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I really don't know. But you know, I've heard that our machines say about you.

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And how can you say that this is live on all these links and he's saying about this person who has over 1000 tapes in half either the person has the biggest machine in America and even like you said if we come after him if we think we might we learn more than him in Medina or this or this i'm not saying I did I haven't done anything like he's done but look what the brother has done some things we might not agree with that he's that he said, but and look what he's done for Islam in the West and this is this one attack him you see any light of Islam they want to put it out upon a lot of you that's what they focus on anybody who's a bit dire, they want to what put him out obviously, man,

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ship God and ship it to me just want to focus on these people who have been successful in their dour and what and put out this light follow them with them in order

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for a very unique handle on issue like people banding in the upov and you know, people saying issues that like that nobody talks about but some panela we are quick to criticize that that is who we're being striving and fighting for the manager of the setup under current law, we left the living ones and sometimes we go to the grave of those who died. And we want to say hey, look the way they did and so on. So, I want to give take this opportunity and give the brothers on the floor to answer to ask any questions. If you have a question to any of these two speakers inshallah, so just raise your hand and shall repeat your question to the citizens you can hear yourself in the back.

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What's up?

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Welcome to the Kaiser

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report for this.

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How can I help I

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know there are other things Allah is saying I come to London for the people who come to the massage for Salatin Juma they do sacrifice a lot of times because the take off time from the work and they come and so on. And instead of them when you find

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coming when you come to the masjid he says the Habib is just repeating everything from the Quran and Sunnah however basically he's not dealing with the current issue as I think I understood or he's not giving what is needed at that time to to commute to came to spend time and sacrifice time to listen how should we approach such a hub even how should we correct him? And he shall I will give this question to the homeowner come on okay.

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It's below 100 level so as we

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look at luckily

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and it perhaps Michelle have different opinions and they can feel free but if a mom is not untouchable, Danny and there isn't there isn't anyone in the oma not even the the holly for the hockey money that you can't approach and give and correct or rectify as long as it's done properly with good with good manners, then you can go up to him and thank him for his efforts and so on and so forth and tell him and and you can even do it in an indirect way and suggest you know, this is a good topic, you know, what do you think?

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we addressed this issue or that issue, because so many people, it affects their life, but they don't know about it, and they don't get a chance to hear about it. And when you give the hopper, you've got 500 people who are sitting and not speaking and not playing games, and they're willing to listen to you. What do you think if we use this topic, you can suggest to them and you don't have to necessarily go and say, hey, I've been praying in this machine for the last year and you give the most horrible topic of corporate topics I've ever seen in my life, you just do it in a nice way. So it's not that they're so untouchable that you can go to them as long as you do it with with good

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manners. Now, I would like to add

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two pieces, pieces of advice that will make your life easier when listening to any football, no matter how horrible or no matter how many times you heard it. This way you benefit from NFL, because a lot of times people go and they want to hear stories, right? They want to take take them up, and then bring them down and make them cry and make them laugh and make them sad and make them happy. And if they're not enough stories for me, like we kind of just want entertainment, you know, they want to be handsome. They want him to have long hair that blows in the wind. They want the hobbit to have no accent and to be eloquent in English and in Arabic and to make no grammatical mistakes. And

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yeah, what do you want? Exactly? You know, and then they when you give them a good happy by that then they want a different topic like they can be okay. Let me see different so it's like a movie. Now we've seen this movie, we see another one. I'll tell you something, two things. One, when the Sophie was speaking, and he says an ayah, and Hadid focus on that, let that be your hardware animator. And you've all been to a place or heard the hot Well, it was just horrible. Everything the accent was horrible. The man was stuttering. The End it just it wasn't working at all. But he was saying if an ad. So focus on this is an ad and then says to yourself, because why do people say we

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need to have some new hardware, this old stuff before? You know, the other day, I was going to give a lecture and everybody kept warning me give them new ad. So in the in the beginning, I told him a lie. I was told to find you know, howdy, but I couldn't find any every heartbeat I found was about 1430 years old.

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It's not about the new material. It's about this old material. Do you apply it? And this is this is a culture now that has developed, which is a nightmare. People just want to see a what is what is this new? I know this? I know this? I heard this before? No, it's not about that. It's about do you apply that or not? So you can do this? Even if Steve is horrible when he says the Hadid no pay attention to it and then say okay, do I apply this or not? Can I start applying this or not? When I go home? He says an AI Okay, I heard this Oh, yeah, you heard that before. But do you apply the item before the AI is gonna come on the day of judgment and either testify for you or against you that he

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acted upon me he didn't act upon me. If we focus on benefiting and applying that knowledge, you will benefit from any hope. But now beyond the report was still horrible, you can still approach the Imam and and if you feel if you feel to, to add to that, I think a good way is if you see somebody who's a good friend of the Imam.

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For example, if I were to give the foot here and you didn't like my foot buzz, and he commands My friend has an A there would be you know, somebody would come to him and tell him that probably an easier way to approach the Imam. And then also I want to add, like he mentioned

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a lot of people you have to realize any even in the in the East now there's not a lot of cookbooks

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any even now like in some of the like the the two holy ones of the four that were there, or they have to read you know, so it's not really like a real hook by No. But when even when you go to Eastern countries, you know, Sudan, Egypt, there are good quarterbacks, obviously, but not all the quarterbacks are good. So when you're here in the West, any the majority of kotoba and originally not pulled over. But for some reason, there was nobody else to do it. So he was forced to do it. So you have to realize this and bear with him. And this is a good very good point. And I've benefited when he mentioned right now about just focus on it, because the students used to come to me and any

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the majority of the teachers that was the teacher, so maybe half of them, they weren't that good. And he had he had knowledge, but it just wasn't good at teaching. So I told them for example, I said to the teachers very boring What do we do? And because I was the older student and they were the younger students, I said yes what is the what is the book that is the Makoto you have to you have to study? He said if serum Katia, I said they would even get the getting rid of serum Kitty, and go in inshallah you'll benefit something from what he says. But it's so this is a good point that he mentioned, you know, focus on ideas and implement them lives. That's a very good point. I have

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benefited a lot from that.

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Any more questions? Yes.

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Please.

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How many hours you work?

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And all these things are things that they need to do

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every day

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So he's

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given an

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example he said I thought this

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has heard about this incident

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Bobby

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a lot of

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men are taking taking hits from the gym

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not what he did when he was saying

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that story and if you remember the story that any that the shift might not have ramola when he was teaching the students to heat anything whether it was from keto or just general class until he they're like everyday Joe heater either give us something new. So he mentioned that he said they need to teach them lesson he said you know today excuse me I have to go to such and such a place because we heard a story about somebody Walker allomi that he had inserts with his mother. And

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you know, and then he came back he mentioned that you know, he said okay, we just found that they had slaughtered for the gin at their house at the new house. So like I'm gonna butcher This is a good thing. I said you see what I'm saying? Because this is actually him having insist is insured is actually worse than insists. So he said this is the importance of so he always said into heat and he says it's a it's a good

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show.

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Any more questions Shawn long way because the thing is, we are gonna have a question and answer session about different things. No, this is now it's just

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a personal thing. So the questions about the things we took in the conference is going to come either after mortgage or after issue one of the two and so it's just a personal because you have to follow them

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up after a man with a valuable evening

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above drama after him

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is a

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hobby of

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mine.

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Why we left with like

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this.

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Get the pain.

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People I want to migrate

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maybe four

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or 500

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miles an hour

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Bismillah R Rahman r Rahim na most people will talk about migrating to the east once they actually do go.

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They usually can't. They can't take it. You know, I recall one of the brothers and his wife. She was like one of the head on the internet about this. Watch it to me Kendra, and we have to go in this. When they finally went to Sudan. She was had a difficult she had to go back to America. She couldn't take it there. Even though she was you know, for years. She's been calling to the hedgerows and what have you. And he hedger in general, in a lot of scopes, you've been watching, but you have to make up for the lack of cover to the end of Islam. But the reality especially those of us who grew up here, and we have a difficult and it's almost impossible, and he calls this the system of life,

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they're just so different. It's so different from what we're used to. It's almost impossible. And under like you mentioned here, and you look at us today, we're in Canada in Toronto, and we're here with our Islamic attire and our beards and we're in the masjid and we're talking about Islam.

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And he looked now here and we come for 100 for smelting budget. And in most Islamic countries, you don't find as many Muslims do Mashallah Allah WooCommerce so the fair if you want to, it's here. Now obviously any the shirts more here that he was more, it's more difficult for the shop that will be more of an agile for those who are able to hold on to the vision and in an environment like this. And obviously you have more agenda. So I mean, obviously I can't say don't go and it's not a good idea to go but um, because it is a good thing for you and your kids if you go But what we found the majority of the time is that a lot of people they put a lot of effort into making hijra and at the

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end it doesn't work for them. So you should at least try to hold on to Islam here and be with the Muslim community.

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inshallah the pharaohs here hamdulillah.

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Let me go back to personal questions. And that's

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what we're gonna come back to

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project together with your sister

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Maria

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We will answer all the questions later in Sharla. But now it's better that you do the first question. Yeah.

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Go ahead.

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Can you repeat the question? The question is how I gained my vast, vast, vast

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lack of knowledge. And

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whether it was in the east and the west, and then how I gained my my superb, superb, superb dour skills. I have one. Don't forget, I have to add something to his answer. Because I know something you guys don't know. Don't ever get

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this, why don't like things like this? Yeah.

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Okay, well, basically, it's very simply I started in, in Sudan. And it's interesting that actually, I actually met him recently in Sudan. And what last year, this year, but

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a year ago, we just met briefly, and then when, as we were talking, we discovered that we met in 9494. And we both forgot that we met at 94. So about 94, I started to go to a message that the that Imam was one of the students of chef, Bernie Kamala, is named Sam holiday Villa, and he is a Syrian scholar with a blind man, you know, amazing in his, in his memory, and his recitation, you find find some of his work online, because, you know, all the kind of add to this phenomenon. So, you know, I would attend a lot of his classes, they would have another class near our neighborhood and pay the class and I would attend that, then I there was one point where I had the class every day of the

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week, but they weren't all at his level, the Messiah, but it was good enough level for me and, and then, in 96, when we moved to Virginia, or the Washington DC area, and and there because as the chef's aide was saying, there, there was a branch, there was a masthead there. And all the names that he was mentioning, in the beginning, all these machines were teachers there, there was Vince situated there for years. I didn't attend them I had I was initially going to stop school and then attend the mahad and shift Java Idris have it all actually told me not to do it. And I was angered in the beginning, like, why not stop reading, studying about dunya to study, you know, the deen. And

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later on, I discovered that there was more Baraka in his opinion, because he was right, you know, I would have regretted severely, and in my head would have shut down before I could have even gotten my degree. So I find myself with nothing in my head. So but, but we were able to benefit with some of the machines like I was mentioning, some of them, we had classes with them and in their home privately, towards the end with them I had was was about to close and started to attend some classes, just you just sit and take notes, not necessarily registered at the mat. But like I said, the most benefit we got was from Jaffa, Greece Shalit, me, we had an Islamic where the center was

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called double outcome. And, you know, we

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exactly, have mercy on it, because shut down after 911 from all the pressures, you know,

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so. So there, so there we, you know, took a lot of court classes in fifth grade and other issues, and it was very beneficial, Danny, as far as the Dow is concerned.

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I was,

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I was basically put in a position, there was this man who was the chaplain or a man of George Mason University. And then he left and he put me in his place, and shoes to fill, and I never could fill his shoes. But what happened was that the Dow was a little weak there. And in the two, three year history of the school they had, or of the MSA, they had two or three charges. So two, three chapters in two or three years, so about a shadow year. So when I when I became the chaplain there, we, we wanted to, you know, revamp the whole tower tables and everything. So for the first time ever, I put together a dowel workshop, and I gave it a catchy title, which become became a very popular book

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called How To Get A Shahada in 10 minutes, and it was supposed to be a catchy title every now and then I get these angry Muslims out there, you assume you can do it in 10 minutes. That's not the point. But

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we did it in the middle of the semester. And we did it like over over two days. It's about a six hour course. And at the from the middle till the end of the semester, about 15 or 17 people became Muslim. And people started becoming Muslim left and right professors and instructors at the school and students and everything. So one person was you know, amazed by what's happening. They call their cousin in Ohio and said, you know, you know, we had this workshop and it made a little

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Big difference to the dollar table. So then Ohio invited me over and then this other MSA invited me and then in a mohawk University in Canada invited me and then the UK and then it started to it moved on from there. But how how I learned the techniques, we used to know some American African American brothers that were that were very effective, extremely effective. And it like like I always mentioned, they could get 60 jihadists in a day 66 zero in one day. So we tried to learn from them how they do it. We we gave them venues, I had a radio show, every day, given the last 15 minutes of the show to teach us how to do dour for a full year, they never got into it. They just kept talking

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about the intention of the day, fine. But I want to know when I get in the street and someone says, Hey, are you Muslim? Tell me about Islam, what do I do so I can take the Shahada within a few minutes. So the whole year, they couldn't tell us how to do it. Another good one we made then we got a venue advertise. And he's going to teach us how to give that when he came in spoke about the hellfire. So I said, Okay, let's let's turn this the other way. I started hanging out with them in the streets. And I learned, you know, the techniques that they were using. And but what I did, the only thing that I did was I just put it in like a systematic way and put the evidences for each

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technique from the Koran or from the state of the province of settler, or from you know, the sciences of psychology, in sales, negotiation, everything is as that were in it, and put it together in a package and presented it the first time and got results. So we learned that you could actually teach people with no doubt experience, how to give that one become effective to art. And and from there on, you know, I started giving it worldwide and then someone put it online then I started getting emails from around the world, you know, as someone in Riyadh started giving power to the immigrant to the non Muslims there and it was like four years ago, they had like 60 people coming

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into Islam is a you know, a group in Toronto, they initially heard it online as well. And they brought like, probably around 200 now to Islam, and, but they retained a good percentage of them as well. So

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that's how the whole thing started initially in in Sudan, when I started, I started reading the books of Shama, deedat, I'ma holla. And, you know, learning, you know, how to debate biblically and things like that. And when I came to the US, I was I was hoping that I'm going to have intellectual discussions with people and people will be very educated. And I found people were yummy for the amount of knowledge at their fingertips very ignorant, and especially about religion. So I, and I still wanted to debate biblically, which was the old style, and we just debate that style. And I find out that they don't they either have to teach them first of all the Bibles or come and debate

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them using the Bible. So, you know, we've discovered that there are better methods in doing that. And I always tell people that watch a comedy that Rahim Allah did with Jimmy Swaggart, that's a debate, which is an acceptable form. And it has its place and its time. The problem is the debate became so popular, people thought that was the norm. That that's how you deal with things. And that's why wherever you go worldwide, you find people rough in the desert, trying to put people in a tough spot and embarrass them. But the truth is, you know, that one is an invitation. And I will say, you probably heard me say this before, if that was an invitation, when is the last time someone

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invited you like this grabbed you by the next and listen, there's biryani at my house? Eight o'clock, you better show up? Has anyone ever invited you like that? So if it's an invitation to Islam, it can't be a fight. It has to be something nice nasty, something gentle. So that's in a nutshell Danny, the story. I just wanted to add something here when we met in Sudan recently and we're talking you know, I was we we realized we we both kind of learned that the basis of a dow from the same ship the same Juma football

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from share from Senator Ashish Allah. And we should pray that every Friday and people come from far distance different this year. He was so good in his cookbook, and his Arabic was just so beautiful. I just did Mashallah. Tortola every citation. Mashallah, just amazing. So,

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he was telling me that, you know, he lives in say, here he lives in Pakistan. His father was ambassador to Sudan. Sounds like yeah, I said, I remember in 94 there was this little scrawny kid really short, really skinny, skinny. He's always come with a tape recorder and put it on the shifts. The mimbar No, small, small kid and his father was an ambassador. He was like, that was me. And I was like, and then he told me another story. I remember this white guy, you stand with this other brother named walked up really tall and really skinny, you know, and I'm really totally fat now. You know? So I was like, that was me. And so we had known each other that whole time we hung out and we

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didn't realize it was it because he changed. He grew and got a little bigger.

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And I became a

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I grew a lot to i gotta tell her like, wider.

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So I look a lot different. So it's actually funny. We've been hanging out for like any I think it's my second time here today. So it was like a few months we hung out together. We didn't realize we had known each other that

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derivation.

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Now I think this was one of the most enjoyable lectures or talk that he ever heard. I was very informative and very beautiful. Shut all the answers were well put out May Allah reward them both. And I'll reward you for listening and shall, we shall we will resume with the rest of the lectures which are coming out of spam upside down waste handling