Fiqh us-Seerah – Ep.12

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The segment discusses the importance of winning in argumentation and not getting into argumentation. The speakers emphasize the importance of learning from experiences and bringing others to the fore. The segment also touches on the history of Islam and its implications for men, including the use of words like "has" and "has not" to describe actions and events. The segment also discusses the abuse of police in recent protests and the use of grace in Islam.

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When I follow La quwata illa de la la li la vain upon Allah Allah in the lava Malaika w soluna Elena v au la Vina ermanno solu Ali was selling first Lima allama Sally robotic Allah Mohammed Ali Mohammed canossa later a lot of talaga Rahim Allah Allah Allah Ibrahim in Gotham evil Majeed

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Praise be to Allah, we praise Him, we thank him we seek His forgiveness, guidance and we send peace and praise on the final messenger Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, we ask Allah to forgive us to guide us to wipe away our sins. And we turn only to him for his help and his sustenance along with me. Now, before the break, I think some of you will remember that we left at the point in the story, the seed of the prophet SAW slums, the point just around the fifth

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year of prophethood.

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And we've talked

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mostly in the, in the last session about the persecution of the believers and the persecution and ill treatment of a soldier lost himself.

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If you remember I mentioned that what was going on? Initially, of course, there was a challenge in front to the disbelievers. And they were objecting to that being insulting etc. And in insults and exchange of dialogue or argumentation then increased as they put a stop to it to persecution, initially of the believers that were of

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a lowly tribes, not with much protection, but that spread to others as well, including wrestler loss loss alone, when they couldn't get our call to stop him. He's unkillable.

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So amongst all the persecution, I mentioned in the last session, the GDL, and the argumentation and some of the ideas that they were presenting continued, of course, as well, at times, it was physical, frontal and beating and persecution to the extent of killing. And other times they're trying to argue and challenge us, and I'm trying to be clever. They're actually coming with ideas and Allison upset. And we'll see from an example, that many of them were doing that just just for argument's sake. And you know what people are like that, not you, they're not really interested in what you're saying. They're just doing argument with you for argument's sake, because often, and you

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realize that when you're in doubt, I mean, I've talked to people in doubt over the years, and you can see that the same person actually, you answer the question, and they don't have an answer to be they don't have an objection to the answer they've got. But when you meet them a few months, or a few years down the road, they still asking and challenging the same question.

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Yeah, is it?

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It says, though, they haven't, you know, registered on purpose. They don't want to register the answer. And this is that kind of argumentation. It's not questioning sincerely, because questioning sincerely would lead to believe, especially with the Messenger of Allah.

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You can't get a better person to answer your query. If it's sincere, then Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam. So here is an indication for it's also about argumentation that we don't have to get drawn into all argumentation as well. And this is the wisdom of Tao as well. Yeah, just because somebody asked me Do they say you have to always answer as well.

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And, and, and also, winning the argument isn't the objective.

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Winning the argument in Dawa is not the objective. Winning the hearts is the objective?

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Because sometimes, the argument has been posed is so silly.

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is silly. It doesn't even deserve an answer.

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And other times, it's an argument the perhaps the person, because why not Rasulullah saw someone the way, we don't have an answer. Sometimes we don't have an answer, we may need to think about it, or it's very complex. You can't we can't answer, especially if it's to do with a low vibe, and complex things like other

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that which is being audited. But it's not always easy to answer. Because we don't have the knowledge ourselves. So

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don't be tricked by the so called philosophers approach. You know, philosophers always come across very clever, but the clever with words, it's mind games that they're playing, they're not giving you answers. For every question, there is an answer that's given that it raises two or three more question, every answer they come with raises more questions, they actually never get to the bottom of it, because it's just mind game going round and round. So we have to be careful not to be drawn in just to philosophical arguments, which don't come up with any concrete conclusion.

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So this is also very important for us to remember. I remember

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a brother many years ago, 1520 years ago, an English brother

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became an English guy who used to travel and one of my friends and colleagues used to travel to work every day

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with this Muslim brother, and he told told the story after he said, we used to have a discussion every day on the bus

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about Islam.

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And he's saying that,

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you know, weeks, months, time, just go by and he says that the Muslim ban, he said, with respect, you know, some of his arguments were silly at times.

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And his answers were not satisfying the Muslim brothers. To my questions. This is English thing to my questions. Yes, some of these answers were just ridiculous, you know.

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But he said, I continued, and but it was his behavior with me that affected me more than he thought.

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It was such a nice Muslim brother. He was always polite,

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and his conviction, and he was kind and considerate and his, that they were friends, they became friends through that even the discussion are

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very saying it was his behavior with me that actually led me to believe in Islam more than that.

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And my teachers in Dawa, for example, from Java Rahim Allah, who was one of our teachers in the 80s and early 90s. That's one of the wisdoms though he crucially taught us the objective is not win the argument. Because to win the argument is to do with how

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to do with your nuts, because you don't want to be made to look like you know, low, you want to be, you know, it's more to do with that, not to winning the half. But to win in the heart requires humility,

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that you lie down and accept everything somebody's saying, is it Oh, sorry. So we have nothing else to say three bags, folks that are saying that

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we have a confidence in our Deen we believe this is the truth. And it must come like that as well. But not with I saw in our conferences and we used to have them for years and the lesser now we're non Muslims are invited.

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And the big sort of talk like this, I could make kind of talk. I mean, it's brilliant in his field. But at the time, it was ama de that Ramallah his teacher, thankfully.

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We were never keen about these, you know, despite this, they're brilliant scholarship. There's so much to learn from it. But the approach sometimes was like beating the Christian with a stick. It really was, I've seen it happen.

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And insulting from the stage at times, not necessarily from an auditor chair himself, but some of the people who are chairing less so I've seen it with jack Nicklaus, some of the people sharing some of the debates that took place here. The question answers and the way they treated the questioner. I used to want to hide, you know, really, oh, how's that gonna affect? your argument may be solid, but you made that person look like a buffoon.

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make a mockery of them in front of everybody. Yeah. This is not the way of Russell Russell.

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And I'm not saying throw the baby out with the bathwater that there's no place for Biblical scholarship. comparison. I'm only saying that. Yeah. And some of the the gatherings used to come out and

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dinner and things and people are trying to be nice and cordial, etc. And you come out in the foyer and you'd see some Muslim, you know, shouting, yes. If

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you're going to go to Hellfire, you know, you must shake, you know, how can you How can you still think, you know, raising their voice and and really being? That kind of argument that's not our that's not our that's not our the Buddha of the messengers. So this is how I work, I believe,

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because we're trying to win the argument.

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And actually people send it as well, I don't know whether you came across somewhere I have come across. It was like they used to didn't physically carry a book, but it's like carrying the black book. Because they say, well, let's say I've delivered the message. You're going to hell now anyway. I can say to God, I gave you the message. Is that the kind of message you get? It's like, I've ticked you off in my book. Yeah. So Allah can hold me to account. Did you deliver the message to say, Yes, I did. Oh, yeah. I love how you delivered it may.

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If forgot about that.

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How you delivered it is crucial. Maybe you delivered the message by saying no spoken words, and you just invited them around and he was just a good neighbor. What did you say ask him.

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And actually, some of the people who converted to Islam are reverted. They say thank God, I didn't meet Muslims. And I read the Quran I read about Islam and Muslims afterwards.

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Well, actually, I mean, you know, I've often said it, and I'm a Muslim Praise be to Allah. And I say some of the people I've met are Muslims. And I not known as studied in a back slum, I would have run away a mile

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run away a mile.

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Cost of character and what you see I mean, if you think about it, we we blame the media and design mistakes and we blame the the

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What do you call them, the satan worshippers people?

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Freemasons, Freemason, we blame everybody. Everybody's got a vendetta against us. If you're gonna live in that kind of victim mentality. Everybody's against us. We're gonna be distractible, there's no hope for you. This is from Shame on you, or the message that has light from a law. Yeah. So instead of blame you think about what we're doing? And actually put yourself in the position of the average Joe Bloggs Muslim and non Muslim? Yeah, and you're seeing all this ISIS and stuff boys not ISIS? Really, it's all it's all you this is all Jews? Is it?

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There might be kind of political games being played. We're not stupid that way. But you know, just to suggest these kind of stupid ideas that are not Muslims. They just non Muslim dressed up, up, come on, you know,

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have a bit of a brain, you know, and put some blame

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on Muslims who have corrupted their ideas. So if we see that kind of thing going around, and other stuff that's going on, I mean, I mean, think about it.

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Brothers are not racist. The reality is, you know, some of the key things that put non Muslims of Islam what is violence, and we have tons of it in the Muslim world, they're killing Muslims are killing Muslims. Whoever is instigating behind the scenes is not really one bit here. The fact is, we're killing each other. We know what kind of example is that of a peaceful religion that's for submission, and for security, in its actual word, Islam, and then the way we treat issues like women treatment program,

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up to this date, for example,

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to this day, for example, majority or most in Britain, in Western Europe, don't have a place for women to come and praying.

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What kind of Islam who's gonna come to Islam?

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majority. And, and the reality is, there are some wretched stories, more than one I know personally, people, including Converse, where the wife has turned up with the husband, or the woman and Muslim woman has turned up herself, because she's travelling or something to London or to Birmingham to other place, and come to the mosque, because she's nearby to offer the prayer and the door is closed, and whoever is looking after it, the caretaker or the mom has said there's no place for you to pray. Or that when they come with the husband, and it's raining even outside, there's no place for it to come in. The husband goes in appraise and she has to just go away or stand in the rain. So

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they've gone to the non Muslim shop or the church, the Hindu shop or the Sikh shop and prayed there and got shelter rather than in the house of alone. We should be ashamed of ourselves. This is not from Islam. This

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is far far away from Islam. And I tell you, it isn't it is. So it's vital for me. Because those who claim the religious people I'm talking about not the public now that we're following grant and some numberland sisters. But when it comes to Salah for women, it is part of the Sunnah for the women to pray actually in the same hole without that bag that is a bitter,

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bitter happy key that is real bitter. That's the cream I've been against ever since it was put up. And people know my views, we haven't taken it down because of what the Muslim people will say, one day, inshallah we'll remove it. I hope while I'm still alive, I intend to, it has nothing to do the prophet SAW slums, mosque, men in the same hole, the front women at the back, no screen was ever introduced.

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who introduced it? It's come much later on. So have I never introduced it, either. So I tell you, when we have those kind of images, about women, even in regards to worship, then you can understand sitting in a non Muslim position you and I would think what kind of religions this?

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Do we think that no, no, no, it's the who these are the Zionists and the Freemasons. They're doing the tricks. were lovely and fine. We're given a beautiful example. I will not. I think I think we need to have a close look in that regard. So I'll stop in a minute for about what I was saying in regards to

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discussion, coming back to Muslim grace, their argumentation, and their questioning, wasn't a sensei questioning wasn't to try and gain guidance, but it was just to have a go, and just being awkward. And that's the kind of argumentation that often took place, except for those who are sincere. For those who don't say ask the question. The best answer was no sooner was awesome. And they embraced Islam.

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They embraced Islam. So we will look at that in sha Allah after Lhasa and some of the argumentation that they posed. And then move on with the story from 50 years of prophethood.

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In now,

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Vina salatu salam ala

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coming back to where we were before the Salah.

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So part of these some of these arguments at one kind of good, ice supported inauthentic belief that they demanded as soon as I saw them, some of them that said, if you really are the Messenger of Allah make mount Safar into gold for us.

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So the prophesies

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tend to jabril jabril on asking Allah subhanaw taala let's set the problems Our solemn

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said that ebrill said Allah says that, if you want that, Allah can do that. But if they don't believe after this, they will be given a punishment that's never been given to anybody else. Most very surprised. Or, if you wish, asking the prophet SAW some of the

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to have the choice. Allah can open the door of Toba and mercy and forgiveness. Give them an opportunity to publicize them instead of demanding the miracle that we're asking. When for the second thing for the latter.

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Allah subhanho wa Taala.

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When he mentioned

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in the Quran in surah, ambia Allah mentioned

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in the khumba mata Budo Domine dooney la hacer boom hasta boo jahannam 123 dawn,

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when the last other wheel that surely you you all have what you worship meaning of the snom the the idols, aside from Allah will be fuel for jahannam for the fire for the hell and Tula hawara Dune and you will follow going to it as well after you will arrive to that for sure. To Hellfire of course. But that was mentioned and the promises have also said in a statement he said in the who Lisa Hagel I had on the abdomen during life he hung up on your bedroom window in life I surely the one anyone who is worship, aside from Allah there is no good

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there's no good

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and the world

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The statement in the Quran that those who worship besides Allah will be fuel for the fire. Some of the grace try to be clever again for argument's sake. Right so they said

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Aren't you the one who said that? He saw a slum?

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The he's a messenger a prophet, great Messner profit, but then the sorry the Christians they worship him so is he going to be in Hellfire as well? And what you're saying either you're contradicting yourself at all there's no good aim either there is no good anymore either.

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Allah subhanho wa Taala

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mentioned a few things we suppose or some clarified

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first in Surah Surah

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Surah number 43

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Allah subhanaw taala mentioned

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in verse 57 onwards Allah subhanaw taala says,

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well, rebirth

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rebirth new Mariama masala and either pounamu can mean who do own and when the example of similitude of the son of Miriam is mentioned Isa Islam is mentioned that then your people they make mockery of it Yeah,

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we'll call early had una fire on em who and they say our our God's better or he paramiko he saw Islam now bada boo hoo laka Elijah della Yeah, they say

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they say all this just out of Jeddah la me just for argument's sake, who said before, just for the sake of argument, saying this, then the law says after saying that

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belgaum comun ha see moon nay but there are people who are bent on disputing, bent on disputing for the sake of disputing just having an argument for the sake of argument's sake, they're not really asking for guidance. Then Allah says in Nova Illa.

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Allah He was a alna, who methyl Li Bernie is wrong, he will in contrast to what they're claiming, and my father answers him as well. Nay, but he is no more than

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a servant that we blessed, a lot smarter saying that we sent a shout, our blessings abound, and we made him

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We made an example for the bunnies, right you children, they are the children of Israel.

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So that's partly in a to answer to them unless Michael also in Surah ambia answers them.

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where Allah mentions that they and those who they worship will be fuel for the fire to clarify the position of Isa Islam that he was referring to them. He was referring to the grace in that home, Mamata Muldoon, you talking the address was to the grace and and what you worship matter what you worship, not whom either and of course, they know who they're worshiping or what they're worshiping not who they're worshipping idols, they're going to be fuel for the fire not to be extended to Isa alehissalaam Yeah. And in summary, why are some reports are these mentioned when the police are heard also that he said that anybody who

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who makes people tells people to worship then any being then they are also there's no good in them but he Salah Islam came and ordered and told the people to worship Allah. So he's not included in that. So if we look at surah MB

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or less maka says,

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verse or two later Allah says, about Isa la slum

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la home fee has a fee rovuma home fee Hal is my own. This is mentioning about the moshtix on the being the fire. That will be there'll be moaning and groaning in torture, and they will not hear anything there anything of good In other words,

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in the learning of Subbu patella who min alpha SNA, Leica and Movado but for those whom we have decided to favor with good rewards, they shall be kept far removed from the fire.

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Not the fuel for the fire. Yeah, like Isa Islam they'll be far removed from the fire.

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In contrast to what they were trying to say,

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another thing which is quite popular amongst the believers

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and that many people think that the prophesized slum, when the when the grace will ask if a miracle This is a mecca, that the problems are some pointed at the moon and it's split.

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Now part of it is true and part of is false. There is no truth in the fact that the prophets are some pointed at the moon it is not authentic.

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Yeah, and the moon split, but the moon splitting actually is not in Hades is in the Quran. He could talk about this as a Katara. But he said to one shot called karma. Yeah, the beginning of surah number 54. For karma itself. law, the law says

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that the our approach is meaning the final hour

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as the moon split,

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and the moon split, we're in euro, Tang, yo, yo, yo pulu.

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Me, which is what they were saying anyway about him, there are similar sort of being a magician. So when a potent or an IRS sign of Allah, they see it, they turn away saying it is continuous magic. It's just magic sorcery. And this is reporting authentic relief as well, this indicates it. But you know, people may

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interpret the ayah meaning something else, but it is mentioned in more than one authentic Iranian Buhari Muslim as well, on the line, and Massoud mentioned that as well. But in Mecca, the moon split,

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the moon split and how you can explain that to scientists and it is not possible etc. Of course, if we said that's not impossible, will neither gibreel coming down and revelation from alchemy now that's not possible either.

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It has to break the laws that Allah has set in motion. Yeah, for those things for miracles to happen. It is to break the laws. Malaika and Jean existing is also against all science as well, where are they?

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We haven't got instruments to measure them. That's the answer.

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What we've invented, men, human beings fool themselves so easily don't know. But those who have bent on this belief, I mean, realize that you invented with your own mind their instruments to detect things. Does that mean you detected everything? You are really arrogant and in folly, if you think that you have invented something to detect everything. Yeah. Well, then you're just as foolish as those 100 years ago, who are their instruments, but they didn't have the instruments you have. Yeah. And you would have said they would have said 200 years ago, microbes.

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Got a nonsense. Yeah. What are you talking about? But just in the same way that you are now thinking like,

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like the foolish people like Dawkins, who say we know everything now.

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It has no shame in saying it.

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And yet he still can't answer the question. And he still claiming he knows everything kind of nonsense is that that is ignorance. Actually, that is arrogance to deny God. So here again, the moon split is mentioning authentically, we believe that blood and muscles said it was split, and the Jebel of Hara

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where the problems are first received Nevertheless, he said, I could see the mountain of hair up between the two halves of the moon.

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So who is that?

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So that's

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one of the miracles

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that took place, but not by the pointing finger of Rasulullah saw some happen.

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And they came with things like

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this question about a rule. Yes, Alan? Yes. aluna Konya roof.

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Holy Roman amarilla baby, Mama, ooh, Tito Illa Omar booty.

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Miguel, el Manila poly LA. This area in Surah. Al is Rob for number 17.

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Most commonly it is mentioned as the suburb of in Medina. When the Jews asked the prophet SAW Salem on a couple of occasions, he said, Oh, tell us about the spirit, the rule.

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And the prophet SAW Salem in answer give the verses from the Quran. Yes. aluna Konya ro they asked you about the spirit. Kohli rowhome in amrop be say that

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The spirit is from under the commandment of my Lord

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under the commandment of my Lord, and then an answer to the question Allah promises not to give me a clear answer so a man or D

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male l male, aka leader and you have not been given a knowledge of except only a little. In other words, don't concern yourself with it.

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So some the adage goes on to mention so some of these the Jews at that time they said, Oh, but we've been given lots he's saying we're only being given it to the chronology we've been given the Torah and in that is great knowledge, but actually actually no given no more in knowledge in regards to the roof in the Torah, as they are in the Quran. And that's the point.

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Yeah. So even though they say that now, why do I mention it now even though it's listed in Medina because we have authentic report that this surah this Surah Al Islam urbanista is actually MKI Surah

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makansutra so it was a real Mecca. And we have authentic report also that the Quran one report that the Quran is the mushriks asked the hood, they had some contact with them that you What shall we ask him? He's claiming to be a prophet? Because remember the mushriks they have no idea of Prophet who they don't accept anything like prophet or the angels and revelation in Scripture, but the who do. So they thought we'll ask them what the meaning is. What do you think the same the same? Can you give us something we can ask a trick question? No, saying, they're not saying that if he comes with the right answer, we're gonna believe.

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Yeah. So they're trying to trip him up, as it were, if you put it in today's word, words, they're trying to trip us up and see, you know, oh, he's gonna be stuck with this one, isn't he? Let's give him something he's gonna be stuck with. So they asked about the role. And the same, this revelation came, the prophet SAW some recycled this as the answer.

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Now, just today, I digress. Ross was talking about some Alabama, foster home from early times said he's talking about debris.

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He's known as a ruhollah mean, the trustworthy the spirit,

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or, as they say, the Holy Ghost but spirit. Other said, noise has a more general meaning. So both interpretations are there amongst Muslims believing Muslim Allah from Sahaba time onwards, yeah, to a fixed width, asking about the spirit, jabril alayhi salam,

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and also fits with the idea of rule in general, the soul samalla set is referring to the soul, the asking about a soul. And we've been given very little of the knowledge about the soul as well, which is a fits with that as well.

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What is the nature of the soul? Who knows? What is the soul?

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And actually not similar question to What is life? Because life is the soul

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to listen to?

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And then

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things, like, of course, most leaks are I mentioned to you before in the early sessions that even though they believed in God, one of the issues they had is they rejected a day of resurrection and Yokoyama.

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They wanted to be free to do whatever they want. Yeah. And just worship because they believe that believe in God, the Creator of the heavens near and that was where they were oddities. Yeah. But anything to do with worship idol was to do with dunya. Only.

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Yeah, omens and superstitions and things like that. That's where it started and ended, nothing to do with we're going to stand before God the God, even though they believed in God. Yeah. So it's almost like a negated belief. It's like somebody says to me, you know, if somebody said, I believe in God, when I said, You believe in the Hereafter, they say, No, are you going to be answered with what you do? Know? Well, you might not believe in God, then. What's the difference between one who believes in God? He just rationally Think about it. One who says, I believe in God, and the next person who's standing next to me say I don't believe in God.

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No difference, because he's not going to answer for saying I don't believe in God. You're saying even though you believe in God, he's not gonna answer for it. Because there's no resurrection, no deal judgment. So do as you please.

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Makes no difference in believing. Do you understand? That's why I believe in Africa.

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And the articles of faith are the very fundamental of it. We believe in God. We have to believe in Malaika angels and Rousseau to give us a message and y'all know Kiana

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and Jenna jahannam

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Remove anything from those, and you might as well throw everything away. Yes.

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So, so one of the things of course, they have this issue with this about resurrection. So I'll ask him a while. I remember asked him a while, that nasty character who was such a miser as well, the one who's

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whose blacksmith was hubbub, and Lara

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knows his blacksmith.

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and he owed him money. If you remember in the story we met, while I asked him a while, allows me a while is of course the father of us who later became Muslim as well and became the governor of Egypt. That's his Muslim father, who was a very miserly person and a nasty person who actually is the one who said that all hubbub I'm not gonna give you the money until you denounce Allah His Messenger he says, I won't denounce it even if you died I raised up again so this alas in a while and said Oh, are you saying when I raised up all right and if we're gonna be raised dope, then I'll I'll

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do a deal with God on the Day of Resurrection with all my wealth and children. Yeah, I'll do a deal with him and I'll get him to pay you on the Day of Resurrection This is that

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silly character stubborn character and he can't with bones to the prophesies so mocking not asking genuinely Are you are you saying actually you know making a mockery Are you saying haha these are these are going to be raised up

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these are criminalized amongst all the nasty things him and others were doing to do so.

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So the likes of him the apostle publicize them said he said

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Nam you pass

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of course. Yeah, this person they will go Yeah, it will be he will be raised Valley you Basilica. This will be resurrected. So my you me took some my yo Yeah, then you then he will cause death to happen to you Allah then he will give you life again to my new the silica Nara Johanna then he will enter you into that have fire hellfire.

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And the last one I mentioned to the yasi in relation to this our lm URL in sand and halappanavar hoomin not affecting either who are horsin moving Have you

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did they not see the human being

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that we created him or her from a droplet and not far

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like from

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just a cell just a droplet of something and and then funny that he becomes a clear opponent and argumentative Look what he's created from and he's going around saying this country raised up a look where he's come from. Yeah, that's why that kind of

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rhetorical from Allah subhanaw taala answer is he in regard to that?

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So they used to also claim that Oh, not that he's just a magician, a sorcerer, or he's mad, of course Majnoon. And also they used to say which just doesn't fit with anything. But as I said to you before, because they couldn't put a finger on something they'll come out with any stupidity. Some of them coming out with different things, others coming out with different things at different times. Yeah, as you find people who are trying to argue when they have nothing to stand on, you know what they do Don't go anywhere. He that did that this way that way, nothing fits

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on the face of truth. Have a solo massage? And actually all these arguments I say to you that's why it's important to study sera show you the truthfulness of

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the arguments and so

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if you look at the the arguments of the opponents, you realize who's on the truth.

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It is

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standing truthfully.

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So amongst them was Oh, he's being taught by somebody some you know, like orientalist claim, or the behavior of the monk taught him remember we had this discussion many sessions ago, and the title was fake. They said, Oh, some non Arab they said agile non Arab has taught him

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this Quran in a language which is not Arabic.

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That it makes sense, because this is the purest and most excellent of Arabic as they recognize the other times. Yeah. Then they come up with a contradictory remark and said some of them not Ouroboros totin. Some of them claim

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That Abner Hydra may pose a mushrik actually had a couple of

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servants working for him. There were two boys, and they were Christians. Their job was to polish souls.

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And while polishing swords, it is known that they use to recite in Hebrew things from the Torah from the Bible.

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It is only measuring one authentic report, the prophet SAW some passed by these two at one time and heard this.

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As some weak reports mentioned the reset a few times. Right? So they say that these two boys told him

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to young servants or anything. Yeah. And they were actually saying in Hebrew, the promises of doesn't know Hebrew ism know how to read and write. My language is like Hebrew. So how did he then after passing by, for a few moments from these two boys

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translate in his head what they were reciting? And a little bit of what they were reciting? How did that become the whole of the Quran? We couldn't get something more nonsensical than that. But that was one of the arguments

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shows you who's truthful again, doesn't it when you see the opposition like this?

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Now, one of the things that was interesting Around this time, is that Allah subhanho wa Taala news reached the Muslims in Mecca that the Persians have won in a battle and overcome in a major battle the Romans.

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So the most rates of Mecca are rejoicing.

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They were rejoicing.

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Why were they rejoicing?

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Because Persians were moshtix like them, and they didn't like the Romans or Romans when, by then the Romans have become Christine outler. So Romans, Christendom believing God, prophets, angels, they're not they're not like him that doesn't fit with them. What fits with them is a Parisian so they were supporters of the Persians. So they were really happy and rejoicing. So Allah revealed surah a room to run number 30 which at the beginning of it, which begins by saying

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Bismillah Walkman you're laughing at

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me all about your room fee avenel

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de wala b himsa. Yo re moon, Phoebe de seaming,

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Hill am Roman favela cobalamin bad.

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Evening. Yes, for me, no. Beautiful is. So in this juncture, Allah swatara views this.

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In the Name of Allah, the Most Merciful, the most compassionate Alif Lam mean, the Romans have been defeated

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in the neighboring land, but after their defeat, they shall gain victory in a few years, in a few years, all power belongs to Allah both before and after now. And later before and later on that day. On that day, the believers will rejoice

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as so many lessons in this little segment, you know,

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so when this happened, this revelation came, you know, it's prophesizing in a few years time, what's going to happen? And moshtix a lot of nonsense,

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of course, because they support the opposition and their hearing, then a few years time, the opposition their their Persians are going to be defeated by the Romans.

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So debate between Muslims and non Muslims in Baca taking place because they're rejecting this ideas, rubbish. So aboubaker said,

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our book I said, All right, with some of those things, he said, All right. They said, let's have a bet. This is before betting was made hurrah.

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Of course a lot of that this is a lot.

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For sure. It's gonna happen this thing for sure is not going to happen. We'll bet so and so. So they made a bet. How many years shall we say it says a few years in the graph. So a few means anything between three and nine said? Yeah, that would cover it.

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So I will work out they came to agreement solver picked six. They said okay, we'll agree to six

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By the six year This will have come to pass.

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So this is authentic as effectively. So what happened? The six year arrived and the six year ride and came to the end, mystics turned up and said, Oh, there you are.

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Give us what we bet you've lost the bet. The old worker

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lost the bet.

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The seventh year started and news came of what the Romans have

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conquered the Persians. Sahaba were really the rest of Tsavo really crossed with a bow back and said, Why did you pick six?

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Because the crowd didn't tell you six.

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Why didn't you extend it a bit more? But you lost the bed? Yeah. And of course, when the news came that believers were really happy. And you could ask yourself, why I believe was mentioned in the Quran that they're going to be happy is talking about Christians.

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It's a lesson for us as well.

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And Christians are closer towards the Muslims.

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Then rejoicing.

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Yeah, they're rejoicing. Nowadays, most people say, Oh, it's Christians, you know, why are you Why are you so happy? Now metrics?

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These are metrics as well. But Christianity the NLP tab? Yeah.

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So a lot smarter making Sahaba rejoicing, because they want the Roman victory over the,

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over the mushrooms.

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Because the beliefs much closer to the true belief of oneness of Allah smart Allah in angels in the scripture in the prophets.

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But a beautiful story, that and also lessons in it about the closeness of Al Khattab to us. Yeah, and we mustn't forget that. We must not forget that. And we'll see also that I've heard the story in shoes of and Lupita. And the first migration that takes place of the believers. It is to avicennia, Ethiopia, land of the Christian.

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And the leader was a Christian King.

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Christian King majestic.

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And this is the time that's what happened.

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The first migration was not to Medina, it was to Ethiopia, on the East African coast of Africa, across the sea. Were some believers, the province has to get permission for some Sahaba on selama reposting authentic ideas, but many of the weaker tribe ones I mentioned to you, yet the problems are not only get permission.

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He said something interesting. He said, in a way, they'll have a habit, American law, US law more known and

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surely, in the in Ethiopia, there is a king and the worst go there. under his rule, no one is wrong. In other words, you find justice.

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Can a Christian be just

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some of our lunatics who are going around with little knowledge are stuck for a law? How can you say a coffer system can give you justice? Only Swan can give you justice. Everywhere else is disgustingly rejected. We don't take part in voting conferences and corporate system COVID system. This conference system is the one that's giving you giving you a home

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is giving you a place where you left and you come like have a like if you're up here, Christian King, and the police are saying you will find justice, you won't find that he will wronged you. You find justice there

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to find just so go there, he's actually sending him there sallallahu alayhi wa sallam.

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And he's not many lessons for us. Many people have left Muslim countries, non Muslim countries to come to this country and others that are Christian countries. Why?

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For security?

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And often actually more justice, despite the so called justice in our country, and I often mentioned this in our over the many years I said

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if you will up before, if there was a crime. You want to adjust this. Your telephone that was direct to Karachi, Cox and the British police. Yes, those biased, racist British police, even the American racist police. And there was a phone going to the crashy Cox

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and you wanted to call which one would you call if somebody have burgled your house?

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Tell me.

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I'm not asking you. You know, I'll ask the congregation I have been in Papa and be caught by the guards.

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Yeah, despite reluctance I tell you 95% I know what they're gonna say.

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You'll call the British police. It's all right. Now you're going to be brought by those cops to a court. Would you like to stand in the Egyptian court? The Syrian court? The Pakistani Lahore of Kashmiri called, or would you like to stand in the Manchester or London court? Tell me?

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Yes. That were the Catholic judges a private presiding in that unjust court. Were they racist, etc? Yeah, I'd rather stand there than any of those Muslim code. Is that right?

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Doesn't that fit with Rasulullah? Saw Salaam nobody will be wrong?

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Yeah, it's not. And we're coming from Muslim countries. He's talking about Mecca when he was mushrik is sending them over there. That's a sad state of affairs that we're in. But the reality is, it's a matter of also we haven't got total 100%. Justice is relative, but there's greater justice here.

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And I often say, despite all this hoopla about Sri is coming. I said to the non Muslims, and now essentially is already here. It arrived even before Muslims arrived. What is Sharia about justice? There's more Sharia here than there is in many Muslim countries. Yeah, what is it, it's about trying to get justice, honesty, against racism, against,

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on and on and on.

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We really understand as far as the world is concerned, now

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not going to finish,

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Hendra migration,

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what kind of waste

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I should really finish it To be honest, if I can come on till nine o'clock when we finish. I'll finish the the migration to Ethiopia wasn't just one migration, but it was in two locks as well.

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The first migration was reported authentically was only about 11 men and for women, Salama, ripples, a small group of people who escaped Mecca and they went quietly, not openly. And you'll see why because they would have been prevented. They wanted to persecute them, not that and get away. And, and, and you know, put a seed and flowers some other land, you had the most lakes wanted to destroy them there.

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And that background very important to remember when you even think about in the future about Medina as to who the aggressors were, even in Muslim minds, they got it wrong. They think the Profit System became the aggressor after Medina, they are far away from the truth. The aggressors are always the correctional Mecca because they wanted to stamp out

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And when they tried to get away the Sahaba to any place, they wanted to stamp out there as well. Because he knew it would one day come come to haunt them otherwise,

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you understand? So now the few escape they're going quietly and they managed to go across in the ships now.

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So they stay there but interesting thing happens in Mecca which is authentic is Surah Naja is revealed Surah najem is Surah number 53. It is very powerful, short verses and make you cry. Yeah. And shake you up, inside out. And I'll tell you this is an example I use of the fact that the Muslim grace understood the Quran better than the majority of the Muslims nowadays.

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So when it's being recited, majority of our gathering here won't have a clue what's being recited there, look at the melody and

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he's tuning Mashallah. He sounds very melodious. I can listen to that. Listen to music, listen to musical notes. I'm not saying that's wrong, by the way. But the essence of it is is meaning three shakes you up inside out. And when this sort of was revealed, it shook up and and the progress has been recited in the harem.

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And everybody was gathered there believers and Muslims.

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And as he got to the end of the surah

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I'll take just a little section of it.

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The last

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Danny, and it is he who destroyed the art from before was a mood

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for and as for the mood he didn't leave them

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Either love oh man oh him Babu. In

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whom out

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or as far as the people Noah from before they will surely those who are even more wrongdoing and more wretched and more iniquitous and transgressors while mo turfy care

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and he brought petition upon the subverted cities, Wash,

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wash, and caused them to be covered with that which covered them for VA

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war So which of your Lord's bounties would you take out of the room in no real oola This is a warning from the waters of old this crumb.

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And this grant also the prophet SAW storm

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as he went as fast as he fell.

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Verily the imminent the hour is drawing near, in the last hour is drawing near.

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Leyzaola in duni laggy. shifa anon, but Allah can avert it. If I mean handle heavy the dark, blue tone, will you then wonder at this speech or this statement? What are the Hakuna Wallah, taboo and laugh and not weep? Laughing not weak because another part of the crime mentions that when Gran was being recycled, they used to say, do

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do that. So you can drown out the recitation because I didn't want people to add themselves to be affected by its words. For last month, I was saying when you hear this, that you laugh instead of weeping with what you're doing. Why don't you do while you occupy yourself in your merriment, first Judo in laggy bow instead bow down and prostrate before Allah and worship Him and serve Him alone.

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When that was revealed, everybody felt in this video was super reliable.

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I've only given you a few ideas, the rest of it is shakes you up, really does have the power of a law and what happened to people before who rejected so everybody believers and everybody fell down on prostate and some requirements except one or two people. And one of them is supposed to be Oh my I've been helping one report. He just took a bit of dirt and rubbed it on his forehead. That's enough for me, he said. So even he's affected

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his arrogance. Everybody else was that down prostration until they realized suddenly that they fell in prostate and disbelievers fell prostrate.

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Because I always knew seem to have traveled Chinese whispers right to to other senior to those Muslims who are migrated, the Muslims Mac has become Muslim. Mac has become Muslim, because it was this was seen.

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So those believers, some of them came back, only to find that it wasn't true. They only felt prostrate because they were overcome by the revelation and afterwards this back to denouncing them.

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Some tried to claim and this is the famous Satanic Verses, this is where it comes, Rusty wrote his Satanic Verses. Yeah, he said this story. Some claim that when the prophet SAW some was reciting surah najem

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and in Surah, number najem, in the earlier part,

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in the earlier part Allah mentions

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for a

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while Loza Have you seen Have you considered Allah andaluza the gods goddesses.

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Why manifest Sally Satel Oprah and Monash. The third one

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Allah kumars

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for you

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for you you choose you prefer to have boy babies and you give assigned to God, women goddesses. Yeah, that's why that's what makes it till carry them case Martin visa. This is an unfair division.

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Now, some of them are they're mentioned in our books. But he's not authentic. That when prophet SAW some recycled, who am I not authentic Apple, Oprah affirmation alert Rosa and McNab that

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Set interjected into the mind and mouth of Rasulullah saw Salaam. So after mentioning yeah a lot of Almanack that he said fate and mating say, fail Cal hora de la oola. What in Nam shefa.

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or literature that Satan added and the prophet SAW some declaim recited, these are the exalted idols of old, yet and surely their intercession will be accepted for look at the blasphemy law.

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So, these are the this is called satanic verse, this betrayer that Satan made the progress on recited if we accept that, if we accept that story, it breaks the prophethood and above our solar system, totally. Because where else did shed shaytan actually interject and make him recite something?

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You understand? Yeah, this story is a lie is total false. There is no basis for it. Yeah. Although even harder. And some of the themes said there is some basis

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for the story that Satan interjected and they say that it means Satan, Satan, some Satan's amongst the most very keen when they heard the mention of from the Quran of these three goddesses that they were going around shouting this

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which fits with if we accept even hunters version with the idea the wet ground was being recycled, they were already going on, trying to drown it. Now they hurt Almanac and oza they didn't want to hear what comes next. So some Satan's amongst them, even hodgetwins and some others. Were now shouting tilters Ronnie kalola Chronicle Allah. Yeah, we're in Russia to own that.

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So that spread. Yeah. And the report came in that way. Not that he believes printing the profits now, but some Satan's were claiming this. This is one way of looking at it from him. But the majority of Allah and Muhammad Athene reject the story like Scheffer, Vanya as well outright completely as a concoction. Even though he's in our history books, you should know it's there. The fact is there doesn't make it correct. As many things are there, which are not correct. Yeah.

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that's part of the satanic verse element. But those Salchow came I realized that grace was still bent on right. And now what happens is a bigger delegation a bigger migration takes place a second migration to Ethiopia, around the sixth year of hijra. Now, over 80 people migrate over 80 Sahaba migrate to Israel in small groups.

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Not a one one migration, obviously, from what I've said before, small groups to and they arrive in Ethiopia, but the grace don't member what I said earlier, they don't leave him alone.

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They feel that they've escaped from their clutches

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and they want to destroy them and persecute and stamp out this Islam. Yep, so they sent

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they decide to send two mysteries one of them is

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the son of an acidly. Why? I'm gonna ask because I was very eloquent politician spokesman and very eloquent. This is very important lesson as well. Yeah, I'm gonna ask he's also the representative and spokesperson of Wailea when he has the trouble with alley rhodiola one or the other and Huma? May Allah be pleased with both of them. So he's the clever spokesman that time was a believer.

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You see the qualities. As I said to you early on the qualities that you have even in kafir those qualities can now then be used for Islam. Yeah. So he's well known as eloquent spokesman and a friend of majestic.

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So they're using the ACE card.

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Yeah, we're using the ACE card. Add that now to it. Take loads of gifts for him. Not just for the joshy but for the CO tears like his parliament, which is like a bribery isn't it?

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So we will leave it that this is a mystery. That's going to go

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To go and try and get these inverted commas wretched people back to base so they can stamp them out properly so they don't start, you know

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spreading from there.