Detailed Interview Part 4-5

So hunger then after that you returned back to the UK. And how soon after was the Doublelift established?

So yeah, after I returned, and I mean these other trips, Yemen etc work later, it wasn't straight after Syria. But after I finished studying

and returned back to the UK, around 2003,

I started teaching in our local madrasa here, the room that we have, which established my my father,

in the mother as I started teaching,

but at the same time establish established data if the data lifter for those who don't know it's a play center of fatwa. We're actually right now in data lifter, this is our left office a lot of people haven't seen inside but inshallah we'll show them the video of the whole. It's not a massive place. I remember somebody came recently and they're taking pictures from outside. This is the doll lifter because they see online and they don't really know how it looks. So there was taking pictures and one guy was standing selfie outside the door. There was some students who came from Panama from Venezuela somewhere into I believe they came to see me from outside as well they're looking at you

know, taking pictures. So anyway, this is the left we could just show the books that I have here. Like I said, they were accumulated after my studies in Syria's from Egypt etc. different sections you have the Quran section there the Hadith section, the

first section, the first sections here like this is the Hanafi fiqh section all of this data for our India but there is an eight acmella for tremula him CIW Cashville Hawkeye much more, recited Kashmiri, Kashmiri, almost sort of Imams Roxy fatawa data Hania,

much more docile of Lucknow either Daya and these are all Hanafi books. There's been a Ashrafi dial Mojito Bouhanni this is all Hanafi fac there is the other

so I'll measure more of him. No he Shafi first shelf is still Hanafi but then he Shelfari and then this is Shafi Moto, Moto, G and moto Moto G. Then it gets to Maliki harsh de su ke the SOFIA la Mata Sir, how she did the Sophie Alicia Hill kabhi Rolla masala Helene, her she this Hanafi Insaaf Hanafi mud humbly sorry, and Foroohar humbly Sherman Harada rodelle motivate a chef. Okay. Now this all humbly and most of you have have no Kodama and there's other one as well as my love has died. This is first section and then this is all fake as well. But this is all due to these all Arabic miscellaneous modern day. And these are all do modern day. And then these are all the modern day and

English modern day. And these are all fatawa in order. It's all fake as well. And then this one is also the fact that side you've got all Hadith Mattoon shuru and then also the Hadith, that side is all just Quran Tafseer of the Quran, etc, all Quran. And then you have that one whole section is actually the books. And then on that side there's all Sierra, that didn't need duniya certain a Bowie,

who I'll be will be a phobia, why is Mustafa and then biographies of Sahaba to Sahaba and some other books.

Even as you have spoken to me, he developed the pearls book, and then biographies of other scholars and then these are all just miscellaneous advices see how Imam Azhar his books and all the kind of books.

I know exactly which book is where this is. From 2003 we established now Doublelift was in another building removed here I think in 2011. So it's been nearly 20 years now. 22,003 2023

Jen soon it will be January 2023. So be 20 years.

So what happens in Doublelift? Is not any students coming to study? It's just a facility

for people to answer the questions.

People contact the lifter in different ways. They have been contacting in different ways.

First of all, we have a website Hamdulillah this website has been running and in those days. How the website started was that

in 2003

there was only one kind of website online for to our website

asking him um.com from South Africa Mufti Ebrahim Desai, he just passed away from what I know.

So there wasn't many, like English q&a websites.

At that time, I had a friend who I knew from Jordan Scheffer, Azra Bernie was actually now in Toronto, he has his own institute, seek His guidance etc. I know him really well. MashAllah has been a good friend for good 20 years now. Because when I used to go Jordan, I got to know him. I scored his houses

Give me gifted me quite a few books as well. So he used to have a private mailing list for his family relatives, and it grew and grew and grew, they start asking questions and he's to answer them. So he said to me, John, can you help me like, you know, you call to join answer? I'll send you the, I'll email you some questions and you answer for me, I said, Okay, do that inshallah. When I go back to the UK, not now, when I finished studying, then inshallah. So when I came back to the UK, he used to send me every week, three, four questions.

And I still remember, like, I used to write them in my hand and try to type them out. And you know, because I wasn't fast at typing, etc. And then he established a website called Sunni path website,

Sunni path, because that mailing list became a website. And he had one or two other people answering as well. And it put me as a teacher or a person who's answering questions. So on a weekly basis, he used to send me two or three questions, I used to sit and write detailed answers, and send it back to him. And he's to put it up on that website.

After a while, he got quite a bit like 1520. So I said, Let me I need to save them myself. So I thought you know why I was saving them. But really, I said, let me make a blog or a website or something where I can just put my stuff there and just save it, it was really for saving.

So this idea came that we should establish a website, I think if you've got an old pictures of the old Doublelift website, we actually put it on the data lifter Twitter account as well. So there's a picture of the old website, actually one of my nephews, my older brother, son, Molana, always, he was helping me in those days, I didn't know nothing, how to even on a computer, he made this like, ad hoc type of website, and you know, just some things and I lost so many things and all sorts of problems, teething problems. So anyway, so just put things on that. And then we'll put a link that anyone can ask questions, etc. And then website carried on, carried on, and then I started writing

long, long articles.

So the website is one in terms of the so I'll come back to the website, but just the other ways, how we offer you know, the services that

people ask questions through personal meeting, so they'll come and meet me if they want an appointment. And they want to meet me here I just had, this week had two or three people come to see me.

Also phone line before I started dedicated two hours 6pm to 8pm, every single day of the weekday, so five days a week. And the phone used to ring after ring after ring, like I finished talking to one person straightaway, the next person six to 8pm. Then I stopped that. And I moved it to afternoon. Because I didn't want to do in the evening, I just want to finish at four o'clock. And then I'm done. Because I teach in the morning and Thursday afternoon evenings, I want to spend time with my children and family. So I don't eat in McDonald's anything like that evenings at home. So I changed it to afternoon.

by 2pm to 4pm. Many years, it stayed for 2pm to 4pm. And now lately, I'm getting even more lazy and just change it to one hour 1230 to 130. Like if you're really serious, and it's your lunchtime, you call it lunchtime, and that's it. So it's a double if the phone line and people can call.

Also, over the years people have been writing.

So emails come but really writing through the post. And we've said that we give more importance to that because you've actually took the time out to write something printed printers, self addressed envelope and posted and it comes. So over the years I've been answering people's questions. Now these are outside all those fatawa and articles you see on the website. These are other than that. These are all just personal. They're not long in detail. And I have all of them like if you can show the video, these are the two files. It says here fatawa Starlifter. From 90. It says from 97 to 2008. One File Why 97 Because there was one or two, like odd ones. For after the linbury. I wrote it

wasn't Donald if that wasn't established, but I wrote it myself. Somebody asked in 97 Someone asked for something in 98. And then I went to study in Harlem Karachi, and I came back and one or two photos I wrote about five six.

The first file is the ones written as a student in Dalton Berry and as a student and

then from 97 to 2003. Was that middle without Donald after being established, but just some ad hoc five, six answers, but then until 2008 and from 2009 to 2015 and then this file here. If I can just pick this up

the top one

I need to put here 2015 to 2022 and currently these are all I have photocopies of all of them. I send that out

Sir, keep a photocopy for

these

with the letterhead narrowleaf Institute of Islamic jurisprudence. This is the question the question is quite long. This is the person's question

234 This is man's one and a half

two sites have given

it's about marriage without parents.

Approval.

Wali Guardian, the sister got married, because the issue ongoing case, new takeaway dispute

just differently people, majority of the fatawa are regarding divorce, you just pick up randomly. But what validity of Nikka is a divorce or not. And the second is inheritance, calculation to lock an inheritance, money and women's

it's all about inheritance. And a majority of these these are all over. I don't know how many there are these are not published or printed? I don't have

electronic copies of these as well. That's all. I didn't save them electronically. And I still don't.

These are short answers, sometimes just two paragraphs, just two paragraphs.

Like for example, this one here.

This is the answer with my letterhead data lifter. And normally I put a stamp the question I want to send original, I've got my own stamp here. And I've got a stamp here.

So these are questions that are asked many, many over the years.

So that's postal fatawa. Online, people, there's a facility to email, but I hardly have time. There's too many, because email people so many, sometimes like 7080 emails just come, I might pick and choose something here and there. And I've written there that there's no guarantee of answering.

Because very difficult, especially now it's very difficult.

Before I used to write now the ones which are on the website, there's about 800 to 900. I call them articles. I don't call them fatawa because they don't follow the principles of a tower. And remember, there's one student who's graduated now he did it the hustles. He's done if telcos and products are moved in now. So in the UK, they've got two three of his letters here, saved. He graduated from a data room in UK Blackburn or somewhere. And he said, Look, you know, I read all your answers on the website and I want to study in Durham, Karachi, etc. You know, what would you advise her to go back to him? I remember

I said, it's very good constantly, darling Karachi. So he went, he studied in Durham College.

After a year, he came back for holidays, he wrote me a letter. He's written me about three letters once before going once halfway, during his holidays. And then once after coming back for some more advice, do you think I should go here or there? I think he wanted to follow a similar path or something. So anyway, after one year, or from there, he replied to me. And he said, Look, you know, I used to read all your answers on the director website. But here the footwear is a bit different. It's not like that I wanted, I thought, that I want to learn how to write like you write all your detailed answers on the website. So that's why I want to come to them Karachi. So I said, if you'd

have told me that, I mean, I'm not for these are not for to us. These are articles, fatwas, and these files, they follow those principles. These are online articles or answers. That's why on the website

right in the beginning, it was written latest 10 foot to us, but I got that changed. Latest 10 articles or answers. It's not following the fatwa principles of Darwin Karachi or any other third room seminary fatwa, Dawson's course it's like a very detailed article I put evidences I bring a hadith I started with Quran one of the things a lot of people tell me that we like about your my answers they always tell me that I really like how you explain things in a lot of details very balanced, this side that side everything and this is why people like it because we live in a time of evidences people like to know the evidences not like very short answer Salah is permissible not

permissible because it said in order matar now I'll start with the Quran, and Hadith it's a very detailed, and it takes time. I've been sitting here in this office till 2am 3am writing these things.

People think it's very easy to write your it's a path you want to take, you want to stay awake till 1am Two for me. We're taking we're doing this interview as well. Like I can do it till 3am I can do it till 4am If you want I can do to Fajr I'm used to it. I've written books till 3am 4am Here, most nights you have to stay away

Some things you're writing for three weeks, four weeks, these lengthy articles, I remember, I don't do them as much. Now, I don't have time, my father told me once because I showed him I said, Look, I wrote her a very detailed, long answer

is that we'll see, after 10 years, you're able to do the same. Right now, you don't have that much responsibility of traveling here, there.

But a time will come that you're not gonna able to write this. And it's true, I can write these lengthy articles now, one in about five months or six months, or if that is too difficult. Because it takes you need to take hours and hours. Most of these answers take hours,

you're doing a free of charge. No one, no one's paying you for your for your time. It's a researched article, if you are going to a university or you became a research fellow you'd be getting, you know, like, your annual income is 70 60k a year and you're doing this research every day. You're doing this all just on your own time in your own accord and nights and you have to do other things as well. That's why this is a very, you know, path of hardship and difficulty. But you can only do it if you enjoy it. And you know, you don't mind staying awake nights and days and days and nights become one.

I've said this a lot of these this fatwa work is similar to what the solicitors do what the barristers do what the lawyers do. But the difference is that it's in there's no time, it's middle of the night and it's free of charge. Like you get people come together well written.

You go to a solicitor advice one hour consultation 300 400 pounds, they come with the same consultation here so can free of charge no problem?

Just like a lawyer, so I'm not and this is why I say sometimes people should be willing to pay and scholars should if it's proper time you're giving

not for tau ease and things like that no no money for DUA

and rakia? No, that's simple. The problem is that you know the simple things people make money out of these things. They will make people food, rakia these your fees, I'll do it for you. Fees I'll do is the harder for you pay me 250 pounds, these things which there's no money for and it's anyone can do it. People are paying money they've been taken advantage of, and scholarship way of teaching, proper

research. When people say we're charging, you know, why did scholarship be paid? What about is the heart of the guy who's pretending that his old dream. And he's taking money and say her and Jen treatment and Blackmagic treatment, which is a massive multimillion pound industry. And most of it is all fraud and deception. So anyway, this is the director basically. So online answers. And then we've also recently started, you know, Alana Jose, for who's doing the interview here, and Marsha is the admin of the whole

cost department that we've started started. So now it's because it's since the COVID time, we thought that we should do some online courses Alhamdulillah we've got a course section, I delivered a course on how we are 100 Marriage Course we just recently had a bring you off children, people can enroll into these courses inshallah and pay for them as well, inshallah. So these are some of the things about Doublelift. I don't know if I've forgotten anything about director. In regards to some of the questions that you've answered.

In previous years, there were some controversies regarding them. Or if you could briefly kind of elaborate what was what was in relation to here did that just, you know,

around 2011 12, because a lot of these answers, articles that were written, they were written online for a specific Muslim audience.

Because they're written for a Muslim audience, I wasn't thinking about the non Muslim audience in mind. But then online, they became, you know, advertised or read by even non Muslims. So there was some non Muslims who caused some controversy about how it's returned, etc. Even BBC panorama had the program and they put the lifter website, they said, Look, very harsh, this scholar or this person is very harsh. So what I did was there was about 2025 answers, which I didn't change any ruling, but I edited the language. So now if a non Muslim was to read as well, he would understand what I'm trying to say.

Some of them have disclaimers and things like that.

So yeah, no, not really much. And also there are some answers. Just one more thing I just remembered. There was one answer. I wrote an answer but there was still an author. But then I actually retracted and put a message on there off the website

that I wrote this into

wasn't for an answer. This was written in 2010 or 11. That now I retract from that answer and it's been deleted removed from director website, please do not attribute any contents of that answer that was truly seeking intermediary to Allah and it's the latter. Ya rasool Allah Madea Habib, Allah Medallia, you know, calling out for help, etc.

There's a lot of discussion on that. So I wrote one was a short to two page article, which was on the director website. So I retracted, I told everyone to delete it. And I said, do not attribute the contents of the answer to me anymore. And Inshallah, hopefully, until I don't, please just don't attribute anything to me. And in the future, hopefully, I hope to write another detailed answer. I'm not saying this is completely wrong, what I've said, I could have said it in a better way.

Maybe worded it in a better way. And inshallah I will explain it wasn't explained properly. So there was a lot of discussion, you know, that time there was there's all these blogs and forums, that Sunni forum and people used to discuss and put me my fatawa. And my answers a lot into that, and six, and seven, even my monad one. Because all these people live, they used to, they used to be all these forums, and every forum they used to have my data lifter articles being put there people used to copy and paste.

That's what you'd find them in lots of places, even the old one, you'll find it somewhere on that. So anyway, people were saying, what happened? Is that etc. So look, no comment until I don't right. Then it took me about two, three years after that, two years after that, I sat down and again, I took good two, three months, detail, day and night.

very detailed, very balanced, very comprehensive.

And so on tawassul Lannister that's on the website hamdulillah became very popular, one of the very popular ones then this is the understanding of attack with money, put them into different levels. Another very detail and so I wrote was, is Allah everywhere? Or is he on his throne again, that took me like months, three, four months, you're in the middle of books, you know, you know you're eating your clothes, everything's all over the place you're disheveled you know, you don't know You know, it's like your timetable when you're writing something like that it you just fall into it. So that those are two really detailed answers one last thing I would like to say that I've always tried to

follow

Musharraf and teachers not becoming a much the head myself I caution myself and a caution to students otherwise you'll everyone wants to become a much day to day and I have always said this and I say today as well. That If anyone finds in anything in my teachings in any articles any books or any audio which goes against clearly goes against the teachings of Chef Mufti turkey with money have with our love, then consider what I've said or written to be abrogated.

You know, afterwards. This this is the disclaimer. I always because I follow all the these are mushy, you know, these are so never especially fake.

I've never become an wish to hit I've never done each to hide myself. Every answer be very precocious check, double check. I always try to find shoe of the past that they've had the same opinion. So that I don't want to take the responsibility. numeral Kiama. If Allah asked me these are the people you're going to ask them know me I don't want to take the responsibility. It's a very delicate that's what Imam No, he said and that that you know, this is like there's a hadith the Muslims that Allahu Allah Islam said Agera oakum alpha to Jerusalem Allah na the most courageous amongst you on fatwa is the most courageous amongst you to enter hellfire. And this is hotter on

alim. It's mon Simone Aleem and Hassan Ali, a lofty status, but at the same time highly dangerous and risky and very, you know, critical position you're in. So that's why I never did it. There was only one answer one issue, which I'm still scheduled today

which is about some shaping and trimming and cutting of eyebrows.

I wrote a very detailed and I took me two months where I gave a bit more flexibility than what there is around because everyone thought that like trimming, cutting shaping Abra completely haram haram.

I studied the issue from the beginning thoroughly lower than esta la han Farrakhan Hanafi, Shafi, Maliki humbly Hadith, a lot of effort in it, I was coming to certain conclusions, which was slightly different to the standard.

I still, you know, I didn't just, you know, straight away, write that and post it because now this is my own responsibilities. I was very scared very fearful.

But I knew that if I maybe write to some of the traditional scholars from the subcontinent, they might not look at it deeply and might not agree fully. So I did identify, I didn't go down and Karachi there. What I did was I got some friends who are moved these great scholars, because you don't want to always give an opinion yourself. I sent it to them. I say, You guys look read this, let me know it should have moved to a drama amusement era has moved to Zubair, but two of them I remember. And there's one or two others movies as well, I just sent it to all you guys all double check. And they all came back and said this is we totally agree with it. Only then that I got it

posted on the one line. So this is precaution is very, very important. In terms of fact, in terms of

in terms of your other activities outside of Doublelift. What do they entail?

So yeah, along with that, as I said, I teach at the dark room here.

We have a mother aside, it's not a boring one. been teaching this since the beginning. Teach Hadith also refer. So in the morning time I teach.

But

also along with that.

I've been traveling and teaching like I was telling the students last week, not the students here but an online class, that there's three things what I do a lot of people do three main areas. One area is just the general

lectures, General Barnes lectures. You know, in the beginning, I used to go to a lot of universities, most of the universities across the country have been the Islamic society, the MSN or the ISOC. In America, they say MSN here they call it ISOC. They used to invite me many universities, Manchester Metropolitan University London, King's College, London Metropolitan University, Leeds, Liverpool University in Newcastle University of Bradford University, Wolverhampton, Birmingham University.

So many places across the country for lectures, I've been to the masjid, I've been to the ISOC you know, events, all these university lectures. Okay, that's one area. And the other area

is teaching but teaching not just general beyond the lectures, but

advanced teaching courses. So I've taught the foot of marriage, for example,

by 2025 times, I remember when I first came here, there was some brothers from Loughborough, which is outside Leicester as a small town close by to Leicester. That was the first time they actually wanted me to teach them a kid at the house. So I taught them a course on our credit, how we have over three, four weekends, then we did a marriage one and then I started gathering my notes and then I did another course and different I've actually down there I've got the all these you know, like files printed, you know, these files down there, of courses over the years, there's, there's that and if you see next to it, that's a folder where I've prepared all my notes over 20 years of

different lectures. I used to write them down. I've got them all there now. Now I don't even need that. But later what happened was first 10 years I used to have to write then I used to I used to do because it's all repetition. What topic is it is go through this, which paper I need. Alright, this one is the paper I need because it's all repetition. And now I've done it so many times that I don't even need to take the paper I just note on my top of my head generally but still takes these I've got this many notes, handwritten pen written from 2003 till later, all the different topics lectures, Beyonds talks, this many and all those files you know, like different courses parenting

course Marriage Course Hello course. We could have picked it up and showed it but I think it's limited to many courses on different topics. I've delivered the Marriage Course in different countries Norway, Denmark, Canada, America, just different different places even the parenting course. So these this is the teaching even here and our lifto I told you that the whole year for

you know the youth for people who are like working

also motorcycle Kaduri we had here we also some other books are thrown hadith shareef things like that. So basically

those are the three things. The first one was what did I say?

Teaching normally people don't know the normal talks, lectures. Second is teaching teaching, whether the madrasa here or teaching all these different courses and also I have been regularly teaching some places like there's a CI in London I've been teaching there for the past 13 years. There are various teachers I go once a week

Every once a month, Friday evenings, I've been teaching how to buy enough. And I'm no we are real different background, I've talked about this, there's people who come from different backgrounds, they're from Central London, sometimes some non Muslims also attend, it's a very different background, you have to teach in a very different way, it's different to teaching in a dark room. And I personally feel that if I hadn't studied in Syria and didn't visit all these places, and Egypt and Yemen and didn't mix with a diff, all these different tools and different types of people, I don't think I would have been able to teach in a place like CI.

So even now, teaching wise, I'm going to different places, but because I was going, when I was studying wise, I studied different places. If you study in only one kind of environment, then you can only really serve one kind of environment. If you just seen one street, you will only be able to serve that alleyway, that street. If you've not seen anything besides that small metros that you've been in, then you will only be able to as an Imam, as a scholar as a die, you will only be able to serve people who fit in that small madrasa. But if you've been different places, you've experienced, you've traveled as a student and for the students, I would really say travel, then inshallah you

will able to serve, and you will able to teach and preach in different audiences. Also, I teach online Albula Academy, I teach online courses for doctors, professionals, I've been doing these kinds, of course, is Islamic medical ethics. So general talks, number one, teaching, whether here are the madrasa Dalu, or places like CI, and the third thing is writing. I like to write books, and I've written some books, etc. And, you know, answer questions and sorry, right, basically writing the most difficult, I was telling the students that out of the three, the most difficult is the writing, the most time consuming the writing, writing is the most time consuming, it's very

difficult. You are writing two to 3am most nights. So just continuing on from that, I'd love to know more. I mean, in terms of contemporary issues. Recently, obviously, there's a lot of discussion with Islamic finance, and with so many luck, for example, in Unit new currencies coming out, etc digital currencies.

Have you been ever involved in the Islamic finance industry? Or what has been your role in terms of Islamic finance? Do you take a liking towards it as a subject? Or is that something that you don't have much of an interest in?

And also the last part, the in terms of liking? No, I don't, it's not very enjoyable subject.

The Islamic finance industry and the whole subject is a very difficult subject, very dry subject.

A lot of money, money issues, and it's a lot to do with money. And I've never liked money too much. So maybe that's why I don't like the subject. It's a difficult subject as well. So of course, I studied in northern Karachi, I did the hot sauce, and Durham Karachi puts a lot of emphasis on importance of Islamic finance and, you know, move to talk with money as an expert

in Islamic finance, and he has been an advisor for many, many banks.

I, initially in the beginning, many years back, I did get involved in this industry, I actually was advising a bank for about three years. In London, there was a bank, and they were starting Islamic finance, corporate finance, for companies. So they approached me and I became an advisor, a Sharia advisor for them for about three years. And then after that, they stopped doing as well, this time finance, stopped offering the services, they closed down. So then I left as well, recently, as well, there was some people approached me from Canada, here and there on Islamic finance, but it's just something that I don't feel that I have that much interest in as well. So yeah, I don't do that

inshallah. But in terms of the three main things, like I mentioned before, just general data,

and lectures and teaching courses, etc. And writing, these are the main three areas. When I talk about lectures and courses, then there's like new issues. So doctors, you know, medical ethics, I've taught many courses on medical ethics, delivered many courses on medical ethics related issues. Chef, you mentioned that you've

traveled to different universities, different places, does include traveling abroad. I know you said you're shoveling in a couple of days to Canada. How many times have you visited Canada and like likewise like to other countries, which countries have you visited? I know we discussed about countries you visited for purpose of

Studying, but now coming to, for the purpose of teaching all these three things that you've mentioned.

Yeah, that's a good point of distinguishing the two types of trips. And I've mentioned this to students before as well that when we talk about trips, there are two types of trips, those journeys and those travels. When you're seeking we're still seeking of course, and every journey is seeking and you're increasing Inshallah, but like properly to go and study. But in terms of Dawa, and teaching and lecturing, yeah, I've been traveling constantly. I've traveled over 40 countries, I think 40 to 43 countries actually wants me to hold list somewhere of all the countries I've visited, but like Toronto, Canada, just Toronto, this will be my 16th visit. And I was telling my family the

other day,

North America, Canada and America put together I started traveling abroad from about 2007. I remember 2007 I went to Toronto three times in that year. So I went the first time was in May. And then I went again in June, July. And then I went again in December for Darius. So it says 2007 to today 2022, with a two year gap of COVID. Just American Canada

have visited 4243 times

across the ocean 40 to 43 times just back and forth, back and forth. To the countries I've traveled to, like I said Toronto, many places, you know, hamdulillah I've gotten a lot of people that Islamic foundation of Toronto, I used to go every day is to have an annual youth tarbiyah conference, many other scholars from the UK used to travel and also participate. So I visited regularly, the youth tarbiyah conference. Also within Canada, there's different places in Mississauga, there used to be a conference that they used to do in the in the in the Islamic center there.

Ras have been two or three times before. Also in Canada, there's been a few other places in Canada have attended, you know, different programs.

All also in Canada, I've been to Vancouver, some programs there. Montreal in America, Detroit, Chicago many times, people I got to know in Detroit, Chicago, New York last 2016 1780s. Every year I went to New York hamdulillah just to deliver courses talks general, whether it's conferences, whether it's lectures, whether it's courses, people invite you and I've always loved traveling, and a lot of the times it's just for three, four days.

I've been to America once I went one day and came back the next day, I had a trip to Chicago morning flight next day return because it's like the weekend after travel have to teach before and after teach after us. I can't really take that many days out. So I've been for two, three days, just America and back. Also, Norway is a country I've been going a lot. I know a lot of the brothers they have many friends there. But 1112 times in Scandinavia. Every year I used to go Norway and other visitors do

Denmark a few times Sweden, as well. One of the best places I've gone to strain that in terms of scenery, Trinidad and Tobago, near Barbados. I mean, the Barbados as well. I used to have an auntie who still live there. But I went for talks and lectures in Trinidad. I love trend. 2016 I've got an article travelogue averaging a few travel logs, I've got one on the website in the general article section, so people can read that and see the pictures 100 I loved the trend and it was really amazing.

Other countries I can think of

Netherlands Holland have been two to three times.

Yeah. And also, these were the lectures, you know,

chips for lectures for this year. Yeah. Teaching for lectures, also been to

Sweden recently and also went to Bosnia, Albania and Bosnia. Albania. I think he also came with me to Albania gave a few talks, actually give the talks in Arabic there and then they were translated. So I went to the charity. I can't think of any other places. There's lots of other places maybe but I probably forgot the names of those countries. I know some of the trips separate again to teaching now. You had the honor of accompanying share multi data with many I feel a whole lot Yeah, that must have been an amazing experience. And yeah, it's something that a student you know, dreams office to be able to, you know, a company wants to teach being the software see them in different kind of

circumstances situations. You know, they say that it's in traveling you get to know a person in a different you know, circumstance and you get to know the best How will

As your experience with with him when you traveled. And I know you've also written a written travel logs and books. I actually wrote in one of those travel logs

about shareholders love to talk with Monty Python law. So like we said that these other journeys. So this is a third type of journey. These are not journeys that I'm going to teach or lecture or people have invited me for courses. These are just joining and trying to be in the company of chef to talk with money for the whole lot. So Bosnia, I've been with him. A group of scholars went from here, there was a charity who organized his trip, inviting a few scholars from the UK. We're all honored and privileged to be in his company. But that was amazing.

And then there was another trip to Malta and Cyprus. We went three days to Malta, Malta, which is an island, and then we took a flight from there went to Cyprus three days, there was a few scholars from the UK. That was really amazing, because, well, that was a second journey with him. Another journey with him was in Uzbekistan. Again, he was going and I asked him said, Can I join you? And there's one or two others with me. So we stayed five, six days in Uzbekistan with him. And the fourth place was just myself, because he was coming to the UK. And as the people in Holland, Netherlands, they wanted to invite him. So they asked me, so I asked him, he said, Okay, it's fine,

just three days, two and a half days. So he stopped over, he went to Amsterdam, and then Rotterdam, Holland. And then I went from here.

And I stayed with him for two and a half days. And then from there, he came to the UK. So there's four foot four countries for trips. But I think one of the travel vlogs I've written travel looks like on our data lifter website. For the viewers, you can go into the general article section, and I've got articles on different topics. Three days in the in the Netherlands, I think, with pictures as well.

So there's a travel log on that. There's also a travel log beneficial points, learned from the trip to Malta and Cyprus, that's there as well. So then the Netherland ones is covered. Malta one is covered five days in Bosnia. That's also there. I've written an article. And it was Becky Stan actually wrote a whole book on it. And shall we talk about books, we'll look at that book. That was just too detailed to write an article I just wrote a book. It started off as an article actually, to put on the website but then it became a book.

But I think in one of those articles I've written which answers your question

I'm just gonna look at the website basically.

I don't know which which travel log it was regarding it was one of the travel logs, that

that staying in the company I think it's in the Malta cypresswood. I just want to read it because what I wrote it's probably

those lines. So you see, there's one here a few days in the Netherlands was shuffled Islam awfully. Muhammad talked with many beneficial points from the trip with shekel Islam of detox with money to Malta and Cyprus. So that article,

I remember writing something

I wrote first two paragraphs about

traveling with Che, increases admiration for him. That's the first point. See, I've taken my classes when I read, it is normal for students to have love and respect for the teachers. And it is no different for me as well in relation to my teachers. It is also somewhat common for a degree of informality to set in, and at times, decrease in admiration or reverence. When more time is spent with someone, especially during travels. So when you travel with them, you get more informal than that respect sometimes decreases

when one is able to witness things closely. Despite this, it would perhaps be perhaps not be an exaggeration to say that every journey that I have done with Chevron Islam, Mufti, Mohammed taco with monamy, Allah protects him has increased my love and my admiration for him, and many others feel the same.

So this is the point basically, that you know, subhanAllah getting to know him closely seeing him was traveling with him. It's a unique experience, his informal his down to earth, but it's just, you know, you see his personality, it's a unique, amazing personality.

So, these are the trips that Hyundai Lowe made, and I would like to tell the readers that read the travel logs and Inshallah, you know, these articles which are on the website, you will understand some sort of background and some sort of understanding of chakra Islam with money for the whole lot,

which is our clock and for that you mentioned, and I know we've kind of explored some of the books that you've written. I'd like to focus this question on the books that you've written. What are the books that you've authored thus far? You know, which one was the one that you started with? And how did they call

out. Yeah, I mean, I've got my books ready here today, let's just, we'll just put the pile here. These these are the books that

hamdulillah granted me the ability to write one of the you said one of the earliest books. Yeah, you know, I have a book on birth control and abortion in Islam.

So this was the original version of the book.

You know those books as well just put them here. Those ones

just put them all here, and it's just on top of this.

So pick them up. So this was the original booklet, birth control and abortion in Islam. This was written whilst I was studying at Darwin berry in UK, in Ireland very when I was doing that the hostels Iftar actually, a question had arrived at Shapira who told me to write an answer and I wrote a fatwa. And then he became a I added a bit more and got it checked by him. He actually wrote a foreword as well. foreword by Shabbir Ahmed. With the should be Rama.

So you approximately 20 Yeah, 19. Don't know don't get my age. Around around. We said you were doing that.

Yeah, yeah. At very at age 20. Yeah. So yeah, so I wrote this when I was about 20. So at the age of 20, I wrote this, but then this afterwards, became a proper book I had added to it. And then this is the book birth control, and abortion. This was only birth control in Islam before birth control and abortion in Islam. This is published by white thread press, my my friend was told that our man's wife had fresh published it. And this was done in I think, in 2004. So this was later then just an enhanced version, I added property. So this was originally just a booklet, like 29 sides, and this has now become, like 80 pages. So this became a proper book.

And then this, this one was also an earlier book.

This is simplified rules of the cut.

It's not in publication. It's not available at the moment. This was after that, when I was about 2122 When I was studying in Durham, Karachi, when I completed all in Karachi, when I went to Syria, just in between Dahlem, Karachi and Syria.

And then, I remember I took this to Durham, Karachi when I visited Karachi from Syria.

And this is basically simplified rules of the cut basically on the teachings based mainly on the teachings of

Mufti talk with money half of the whole lot. And I asked him to write a foreword, and he actually wrote a foreword as well. So I remember how this photo is written. He just said to me, okay, you write a dictated to me, I stood next to his table, in his office. This was in when I was studying in Syria, so 2000, maybe 99 2000. Around that time, he says he ate in June sorry, 2000 To

my learned brother, Maulana Muhammad and Adam gave me the manuscript of this book titled simplified rules of zakat. And he says, to three paragraphs, I was not able to go through the whole manuscript. However, since the learned author has based his book on reliable books of Islamic faith, and he is one of those who have undergone a considerable part of a course of specialization. In fact, in our darkroom, Karachi, he is competent to derive correct inferences from these books. So he just wrote that for me and handler. So this was, Look simplified rules. It's a very easy guide, a lot of people students have read this, study this and inshallah I want to now

you know, add a bit more to it and make it a bit more comprehensive book. So this is another book and then at that same time, this is another book simplified, sorry, the issue of shares. These are just a small booklet. Again, this was based on the works of Mr. Tucker with money. And he also wrote a foreword for me on this as well. And this was this I remember, I actually sent it from here to him via post, he sent back wrote a foreword he made some corrections and I've actually misplaced that original manuscript, because hand corrected, you know, some even to go into spelling mistakes.

But he wrote a foreword have gone through this article, the issue of shares written by my learned brother, Modena, Muhammad and Adam. He has explained the Sharia issues involved in the trade of shares on the basis of my different lectures and writings, so I gathered a few of his lectures and writings and put it together and this was in

2002, this was before the that simplified rules of circuit. So this was a book and

then later on, I started writing some books. Now this is a famous Red Book, Islamic guide to sexual relations. How I wrote this, I mean, this is

published by Prof publishing my friend, brother, yeah, here I tried publishing.

He actually contacted me and he said, Look, there is a book on Islamic sexual relations guide Islamic Atticus to sexual relations, written by a scholars of South Africa offers over a yard. So maybe we could edit it and enhance it, and we'll publish it. So I said another look, when I started having look, I said, You know what, there's a lot more a lot more can be said about this topic.

And I had been gathering a lot of questions people have been asking me about about this topic. So I said, instead of just editing this, let me just write on this topic. So I just started writing, writing, writing, because I already want us to make a note of all the questions people were asking me on this topic, became a whole detailed book. And there's over 120 23 pages, and moved to Zubair, the original author on this topic, but Hamdulillah, he was kind enough to check through it, offer suggestions and wrote a foreword to the book as well. He's from South Africa of DeRosa. So Islamic guide to sexual relations, everyone buys this book, they hide it, and they buy it, or they send it

give it as gifts and one bookshop I went to he said, You know, I really like to thank you. So why is it you are giving us double business, because every time anyone wants to buy your book, they buy another book as well and put it on top. And they come to the counter like this. They don't want this one at the top. But anyway, this is a topic. I mean, at that time, because it was very difficult, right? It's taboo topics, that I just took on a challenge. And that's why I tell the students that look, you have to be you have to get the balance, right. This is what students need to do. Graduates, young scholars, young graduates get the balance, right. Some just become so liberal, and

the own people, they become much the heads, they don't want to listen to anyone, they don't want to advise from the teachers you have, you should always be connected to your teachers. And this is why I always tried to be connected to me to talk with money for the whole night, whoever from your teachers, if you studied different places, if you've got like an umbrella above you, you've got to shade above you. It saves you protects you from going astray from going here and there. It's really important staying.

So that, you know, you get one group of students who just like become independent and wish the heads don't want to listen to anybody and just want to do anything how they want. On the other hand, there are people who just don't want to do anything. They're just so respectful. If I do this, then this is gonna happen. How can you? They don't want to do anything. Just because out of respect and out of you know, Oh, these are my teacher, I can't do anything. The balance, the Middle Way is somewhere in the middle, a middle way, somewhere in the middle balance. I was like, Look, I took on this challenge. I took on it. I took it on. I mean, it wasn't done you. I knew there might be

there might be a word.

backlash from people. Why are you writing on this topic? Certain things you do both balance, but always try to always have teachers as well. So the balance is very important. This is

almost 20 years ago, no, no, no, this this was recent. This was 2008 I think 2008 or nine? Yeah.

Those books were early 2002, etc. This was 2008 2009. So it's about how many 12 years. I did also a small booklet 40 Hadith on marriage, gathered 40 Hadith wrote a commentary. Again, this was after that maybe 2009 2010 or something like that. I actually just completed a course with Al miffed with miftah Institute in America, where I taught over 14 weeks 40 Hadith on marriage, I put them in a systematic order and with a bit of commentary, etc. So this is the 40 Hadith on marriage.

And I did also a couple of books in Arabic. So like you know, I was saying that is Syria. When I went and I this we shot this book I showed you this book, would you go for a layup? Shakira himolla footnotes at the bottom and I published it from McDouble to Donald Frazier. And then also we have al Mohammed Al mo fernet

this was while I was studying in Syria and in even these both of these to us I was studying Syria I remember when I did these books, I used to stay awake one night sleep one night because one night has to spend just working on this

whole night and every Sunday morning have a shower go for first class and everything else it so these are just saying but just two different covers and these I mean, we did a whole course on this I don't have time to talk about it in this video or audio this video this interview sorry. But in our data lifter Courses section I taught a whole course the background of all these

Questions controversial questions written by Shatila Hassan booty Rahim Allah it's about our soul is the author, Sufism aqidah lots of different issues, but it's very detailed. So this is something I did as well and

and then recently I wrote to travelogues.

This, these are the last two books.

One of the trips I made with them to talk with money was to Uzbekistan, and that was unique. A trip to the land of scholars and saints. You can order all these books from our website, and there's also a YouTube video on this, I think.

But we visited him on Buhari mountain with his grave and mobile car, his grave and lots of things and to learn. So pictures are the end of the book. This was a travel log, I wrote a trip to the land of scholars saints, in the company of Chef Mufti Muhammad, with money, having a whole lot to add. This was written in 2019. We made the trip in 2019. So this was in 2019. And then in 2020, I went to Pakistan. And then after coming back, I wrote this book travelogue two weeks in Pakistan, and it also has pictures. But this is free of charge. People can order it just pay for postage package. It talks about darling Karachi talks about data growth, Money talks about other modalities institutes.

It says here in the blurb at the back, it's a captivating and descriptive travelogue of three Pakistani cities, Karachi, Lahore and Multan or Moulton. The focus is on the various Islamic seminaries and great Xu Hanoi them both past and present. The majority of the discussion surrounds world renowned and prestigious seat of stomach learning Jeremy I doubt on Karachi and the honorable chairman to talk with money. This travelogue is a must read for anyone in particular students of knowledge, who are seeking to learn about the major and magnificent religious institutions in Pakistan and those great souls from whom they take them out. This magnificence, and this one trip to

the land of scholars as it talks about you know, the cities that we visited

is a descriptive travelogue of a journey taken into those 19 four major cities were visited Bahara some are called timid and Tashkent provides in depth information on various historical sites and biographies of key personalities who graced that part of the world, that part of the world in addition, beneficial points learned from sharing photography with money during the trip have also been gathered, including translations of almost all of his speeches delivered at various vocations a must have companion for those interested in or journeying to was Pakistan. So these are some of the books and you know, there's one currently there's one book of finished and completed as well. These

are moved to Turkey with Manny's lectures on Islamic finance, you were talking about Islamic finance. So this is our finance now, economics trade

history the lectures which were published in dust that are still muddy, and TakaraTomy, the taboo your so his explanation of the hadith of sunnah jam at Tirmidhi is commentary. I translated that into English and not only translated it, but I added a lot of footnotes. I've been working on this for the past two or three years, keeping all his other books in place he stuck me over to the mall him he has a book fair called bluer, the fact of business transactions and many other books of his various books, office relevant notes, I gathered and put them into footnotes, it's become like a manual on Islamic finance inshallah to Allah. When I went to Ramadan, I showed it to him that I was

very happy, you know, to lenti to page forward under law so that's in the process of being published and if the brother trot publishing is watching this and can hurry up inshallah maybe next month, this book will be published in shop. So that is in the pipeline. Yeah. And then you intend to also revise the simplified as a top book Yeah, internal any other works that are in the pipeline? If not, do you have any like ideas that you hope to explore? Yeah, I mean, just one in the pipeline is a common to Nikita to how we I started writing this actually before this travelogues etc. I was writing a detailed commentary on Aqeedah rapido to hear the creed of Amanda Howie I've actually

written 250 pages two thirds are completed but it's been three years since I touched that so I need to get into that mode again and inshallah hopefully now I can get to that and hopefully complete a detailed commentary should be about three 350 pages inshallah. Then see what happens after that.