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Educating Patrick Bet-David on Islam

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Mohammed Hijab

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Prophet Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wa sallam told us to whoever builds a mosque for Allah, Allah were built in a similar house in Jannah. And we know the great reward that will not only be gained, but rather, will fill your grave after your death. Whenever someone prays that whenever someone gives shahada in the masjid whenever someone learns something in the masjid, yes, that will be something that you will have on your scale.

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Salam Alaikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh How are you guys doing? I came across a video from this man called Patrick bett Davis, you may know him from his channel called Value tainment. Let's take a look at the video and come back and respond in kind a bit of the Christian religion have an influence on him but also the Muslim in the Muslim religion as much as you know, people in America want to make it it's a very peaceful thing. You've heard Bill Maher say just before what Bill says, you know, most Muslims are not terrorists. But Bill Maher also says, but most Muslims, most terrorists are Muslims, right? So when you read that, like wait a minute, you can't say that he's

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well, he's not wrong, right? When you have this kind of conversation, there's a part of him where I think the way the Muslim community looks at women, it is very submissive, it is very, you know, I get to do this and you can it is very, I can have multiple wives, you can have multiple husbands, it is very, you can't get to sleep around which you don't use your body. All this kinds of cliches, I have to say, our cliches which we've heard as the Muslim community. All too often. They've been repeated, regurgitated, reiterated. And I have to say,

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they are boring. Now for us. I mean, we've heard this so many times before, it doesn't mean to say that just because of the monotony, that it induces within our very psyches. That is not worthy of a response, which is what I'm doing here. Now.

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In this video, what I will say is that there were two assertions that were really made by this man,

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Patrick, but Davis first was one, which he agreed with the proposition, let's say that Muslims,

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the majority of terrorists, or the majority of terrorists, are Muslims, putting it exactly in the terms that he put in. First and foremost, what is a terrorist? That's really think about it. Obviously, if you go on, you know, Cambridge dictionary or something, it's gonna say that a terrorist as someone who uses violence for political objectives. However, if you look in the fields of political science and international relations, there is no consensus as to what the definition of the term terrorist actually means. But what I will say is this, if what we're talking about is the targeting or the killing of non combatants, people that are otherwise not engaged in warfare for

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political objectives, let's say, and we look in the historical record for the last 2000 years, I think it's almost impossible to make the case that the Islamic civilization in whichever way you would like to define it, even a way that Samuel Huntington does, in his book, The Clash of Civilizations, that in whichever way you wish to define it, the Muslim civilization is not the full runner. In this, for example, in fact, there was an article that was written with tabulation that was made by Naveen chef.

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Of course, every kind of tabulation or categorization, will compartmentalization will have some level of methodological obscurity problem and limitation. But having said that, he concluded

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that the Christian civilization

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was the most in terms of civilian deaths, active in committing them with 178 million people who sates who have died in wars related to the Christian civilization, compared to only 31 million Muslims. People have died as a result of wars in the Muslims of civilization. Now, I'm not saying any of that is good. And of course, what Muslims do or Christians do is different to what Islam and Christianity is, or there is no necessary link between the two notions. But what I will say is, these kinds of historical facts when they are put forward, they almost always ignored when we talk about the colonial conquests, when we're talking about the expansion of Spain, for example, into the

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Americas, when we are talking about manifest destiny in America, when we are talking about the British colonial empire. And India when we are talking about when we're talking about the 11 wars that were waged by the United States of America, of which many of them are contemporary to us. Many of them are now

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I've times million people died in Iraq, for example, in the same part of the world that this Patrick pet Davis Davis is from. Now I'm saying to you, let's be honest and fair in our assessments, what are you talking about, if you want to make a case that there is something inherently violent about Islam, then go ahead and make the theological case. But of course, the word Islam in this discourse was a very short 130 seconds, I have to say, very cowardly kind of discourse, where he was putting it in, in a very conniving kind of way in his normal podcast, but Davis,

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because he wasn't presenting this to someone who can challenge his ideas, very cowardly. But what I was gonna say was this kind of discourse, there's almost always equivocation between Islam as a religion, and Islam as a civilization of some sorts. So what is the claim that has been made that Islam as a religion, the text, the primary texts, are is inherently violent? And if so, can you make can you put the evidence forward? Or is it that you're talking about the civilization? In which case how you do to find the civilization? Let's have a proper discussion about this issue? Secondary secondarily? I'll say, well, secondly, he mentions in, in making the argument against Islam for 30

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seconds, the issue to all the issues to do with gender, while say, in this case is as follows. We've already spoken in my content, you'll find the many different places where we challenged feministic presuppositions the fundamental flaws of feminism, that you know, why feminism was false, and so on. However, what I will say is this, it's not enough to, to preach to the choir, to try and energize the base to make the assertion

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that okay, well, Islam allows a man to marry for and a woman can only marry one, or that a woman has to be submissive in marriage. It's clear, I think, for any fair academic person,

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that there are differences in Western dominant Western ethics and Islamic discourses, there are differences to do with the with the tension of the individual to the community, or the husband and the wife, the family and the community and the society.

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All of these things, yes, there are different questions, there are different answers, as per you know, which ideology you are looking at. But the question is, why would that make for example, Islam? false, wrong, unfair, unjust do any of those things? Is there an argument that you're making him because I'm still waiting to hear the argument, but the point is Patrick Davis, unfortunately, you spoke to Andrew Tate for five hours. And he's one of the, you know, voices of traditional family and hierarchy within households. And so, why don't you bring these interrogations to him? Why now and you're speaking to a feminist?

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Are you giving her practically everything you want? She wants to hear? I don't think you're conducting yourself in a very

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courageous or dignified way. And I will say to you, unfortunately, you have not made a satisfactory argument, which is worthy, actually, of any kind of refutation.

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Further than what I'm about to what I have already said here. If you do want to discuss this matter, I'm always open to discuss the matter. And challenge your views was Salam aleykum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh how are you? Are you wasting your time on social media again, your brothers and sisters in Islam net from Norway are establishing a masjid a Dawa center. Establishing a masjid to convey the message of Islam is one of the best deeds a Muslim can do. There's a huge need for an annoying Do you know this and I know this, so that makes the rune even greater. So give generously and Allah azza wa jal give you even more