Karim Abuzaid – Pardoning Others

Karim Abuzaid
AI: Summary © The speakers discuss the importance of unity in Islam, emphasizing the need for a strong message to encourage unity. They also touch on the history of Islam and the confusion surrounding its title. The speakers stress the importance of following evidence and following proper leadership in order to achieve progress on Muslim communities. They also emphasize the need for everyone to be aware of its consequences and the importance of community involvement in society.
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Assalamu alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuhu Welcome to this evening's live edition of hastened to goodness you guys please give us a call we are live and we're waiting to hear from you. I hope you guys are certainly having a wonderful Ramadan we're approaching the last 10 days and nights so if you're not doing that good kick it into gear inshallah and stay tuned to this program every night at this time. Of course as every night I'm joined by shake crema was a Salaam Alaikum chickening out a coup Sarah follow Malik shake is one thing thank you so much Jake for the for the wisdom you share with us. And I want to ask you this question shake. One thing that nobody can escape in this month,

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you cannot help but notice is the unity of Muslims. If you watch the TV, everybody's praying together in the huddle. If you go to your measured, everybody's is praying together extra prayers, people are sharing food with each other, your neighbors, your friends, your co workers that maybe you'd have a great relationship with. During this month you feel this love and brotherhood and unity. On the other hand, there There seems to be some confusion in this unity. And we do have a date on this matter, as you mentioned to me shake about different * and breaking up. So perhaps we could speak about about the issue of unity in this night and Ramadan. Sharla. It is an important

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subject Malik united uniting the Muslims.

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Probably a lot of the Muslims are watching

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a lot of things which are unfolding once it comes to

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other Muslims being attacked and hurt and persecuted and killed. And if you dig deep into the reason for this, you will certainly find it to be disunity. Okay.

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So we are commanded to be united. And

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Islam did a lot of goodness for humanity. When we write it

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honorable hottub

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has a very beautiful statement.

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I hope I can recall it. He said there is no Islam without unity.

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No Islam without unity

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and no unity without an identified leader.

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And no leadership without obedience to that leader. So it's a chain reaction Yeah, for you to establish Islam and earth. And we are commanded to do this. We are commanded to call others to that religion. You're the best oma brought to mankind because you enjoy what is good, forbid what is evil. You believe in Allah and we call people to that. We are the oma of Dawa. We are the inviting oma

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to the way of Rasulullah sallallahu sallam. So there will be no Islam that will have that impact.

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Without unity without Gema. Okay, and no unity without leader, you need to have an identified leader. Right? And you need to obey the leader. Okay. This is what I think what we you brought up a very important issue that we do have a lot of texts that command us to be united. But yet we do have other texts that says that we will split right into 73 sects, I think it's important to try to

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reconcile those of

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those issues, issues. Add to this, I want to stress something before we go into the second segment here Malik that Unity has to be on the basis of the truth. It cannot be on the basis of just let's unite.

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Unity has to be on the truth that is the sustainable, everlasting unity, which you will keep but unity on basis of tribal, tribal or just, you know, just be united, right? You know, that's not going to work because we see this in interfaith dialogue. What you're saying Jake, is that you do it for the sake of Allah on his principles, right unity for any other. You see Allah subhanaw taala identified, what will unite us and that beautiful verse in Surah. Allah Imran wa tahsin will be happily Lehi Jamie and Walla Walla Walla tarraco. hold all of you fast to the rope of Allah. What is the role of Allah, the revelation, the Quran and the Sunnah based on the understanding of who the

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Three praise generations. This is what will unite us. Other than that you're dreaming. While it's wishful thinking and the last part I do not break up and will not break up.

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We'll take a short break. All right, you guys are home stay tuned, we're talking about unity and what better time to talk about it than now. And as we approach the last 10 nights of Ramadan, as you see all the Muslims praying together, fasting together and are united in this month, we certainly hope that continues throughout the year and the sheikh is gonna talk more about what we mean by unity inshallah so you guys stay tuned. Don't forget to call them as well. There's phone number should appear on your screen. We'll be right back.

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Welcome back to hasten to goodness, please give us a call. We are live. We're here joined by Sheikh crema was he speaking about unity c cream in the first segment you eloquently described to us and explain to us what we mean by unity and you clearly establish that this is truly for the sake of Allah and not for any other principles. And I believe you mentioned before also that Prophet alopecia upon he divided Mecca, he did not unite Mecca he because the idea is to unite on truth and not fossil, considering those things. So he also mentioned there is an apparent contradiction in texts. On one side we hear her deep that our coin is to unite. On on the other hand, there are also

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already that say, we will dis unite. So how can we reconcile these contradictions? What seemed to be contradiction? Alhamdulillah wa Salatu was Salam ala rasulillah illa Illallah, wa

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Jalla, WA shadow, Mohammed and abaco. So first of all, we must establish that we were commanded to unite

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enough text that I can bring out from the Quran and the authentic sooner to establish that the most famous, the one that we call it, Watson will be heavily language me and will not

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hold all of you fast to the robe of Allah subhanho wa Taala and do not be divided while at akuna minal mushrikeen and do not be like the polytheist Mennella Deena for Rocco, Dina homework and OSHA, those who split up the religion into *, and they turned into groups. In alladhina, Farah codina, hamaca, and OSHA less than one fishy, Indeed, those who split up the religion into * and they became into groups, you shouldn't associate yourself with them. Also sallallahu alayhi salam in a beautiful Hadith. He says yo la he Maha Gemma, the hand of Allah subhanaw taala is always with the Gemma. And we affirm that Allah has a hand but we don't like the like we do not like in the hand of

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Allah to the creative being. Nor we try to figure out how the hand the format looks like we believe that Allah has a hand without liking it, or without trying to figure out how it looks like okay, just to make sure. So, the hand of Allah Subhana Allah, Allah subhanaw taala has a hand in a way that suits His Majesty with the group with the general okay with the group and another Hadith he said that the wolf

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eats or devours the runaway sheep right that the sheep that goes away from the from the flock so

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but at the same time, at the same time, we read in an authentic hadith that the Jews divided into 71 sects and the Christians divided into 72 sects

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and you will divide into 73 sects, this is very difficult, I think where the confusion in the minds of people there is no confusion. Okay, what is meant here that we must strive for unity on the correct foundation on the right basis, okay, which is the Quran and the Sunnah, based on the understanding of our righteous predecessors. Now if you're striving and trying to do this, and yet you still see disunity which is happening right now in the Muslim world. This is then the other day okay, it is the statement of Allah subhana wa Tada. This is the decree of Allah subhanho wa Taala there is nothing you can do about it. But yet your individual duty is to strive for unity on the

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correct foundation on the correct basis. Okay, so you're striving and working hard, because a lot of Muslims will not do what you're trying to do

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are trying to unite and other basis than the the correct Foundation, which we should go into like okay

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Rasul sallallahu Sallam in that particular Hadith

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He said all of them are inhale except one, the 73 sects, all of them are inhale except one. Now, there is a discussion in * permanently for eternity or inhale because they said La ilaha illAllah and a fallen into sin into sins or bizarre they will be punished for it and then they will be taken out, right. This is something that we can discuss later. I mean, it's, it's a subject that was discussed amongst the scholars,

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but we believe that those are people who said La ilaha illAllah Muhammadan rasul Allah, but whatever they committed was not to take them out of the fold of Islam or other major sins or right bidda and for a while, they will be punished and then they will be taken purified and purified and then taken to gender This is the the consensus of the okay Shalini the scholars of Akita Okay. Now one of them will be saved completely meaning there is one sect of the Muslims who will never go to * at all.

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Sallam was asked by his companions, which one or messenger of Allah, He said sal Allahu alayhi wa sallam in one wording al Gemma the group the bath now the group does not mean the numbers No, it means they learned the learned of the Muslims. Right being you know, United on the truth, right? Yeah, and that is why Abdullah Abdullah so it made a beautiful statement. I said and tell Gemma, what,

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you are the Gema even if you're a loader, provided that you are on the truth. Yes, yes. You possess the truth. Yes. So a lot of the people will say that or Gemma, I know that meaning the majority. No, that's not the case. At all American Muslim in the scholars of the Muslims does beginning with the Sahaba and the righteous lead assessors

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in in another wording. Rasul sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said mannalie oma Allah He was hobbie those who understand the Quran and the Sunnah, and implement the Quran and the Sunnah, the way that I and my companions do. Okay, so we're talking about one generation here, one generation, which is the generation of Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi. Salam and his companions. In another Hadith Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam added two more generations Hadith Mr. Hassan Abu hurayrah Abdullah Omar Abdullah best 10 companions narrated that Hadith the Hadith in Bukhari Muslim, the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam says, how you will NASA currently the best of the Muslims in Nasir means

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Muslims. Yeah, the best of the Muslims are those who lived in my generation meaning the Sahaba so he affirmed the Sahaba, the first generation from melodien Allah then the students of the Sahaba, from Allah Dena Luna, then the students of the students of the Sahaba Okay, so we're talking about the three braised generations we call those our righteous predecessors. So those who understand the Quran and the Sunnah and implement the Quran and the Sunnah according to the way Okay, those are this is the truth that we must all strive to unite on to unite on okay Other than that, there will be no unity. You can assume that but there will be no unity shake up an interesting point here. You

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said, if the Muslim Ummah if I'm correct, if I understood correctly is is this united? This is the color of a law however, we should always strive for that unit. That is yes, the point yes, that is why also Allahu Allah Salam started with the Jews and the Christians, that this is the fate of the nations before you.

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The Jews were commanded to be united to but on the truth, but they split also because of what because of our because of desires, desires, declarations also about that that was defeat. You know, there is a hadith that explains this to you.

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Fi there is a verse in Surah Al anon. Howdy, Jabir ibn Abdullah of the Allahumma salli ala Buhari

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diversity says pull who will call you Allah Yeah, bathala kumada been

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a woman of God whom I will be sacrum Shia and the Kaaba combat Saba say O Muhammad, Allah subhanaw taala is able to send a punishment from above you, meaning like a stone, a thunderstorm or something or from beneath you like an earthquake like a tremor army like one of these things, or he will split you into *. Now when Allah subhanaw taala said colocado Allah Allah Allah Allah kumada

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say, Allah is able to send a punishment to wipe all the Muslim

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from the face of the earth, because of a punishment that will come from above them. Our su sallallahu alayhi wa sallam made this law.

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I seek refuge in your face, that you do not destroy my alma because of a punishment like this. Allah accepted his daughter, I will not punish the Muslims. The Muslims will never collectively maybe some parts or collectively, all the Muslims to be destroyed because of a punishment for both will not happen because Allah Subhana Allah accepted that Allah sallallahu wasallam Okay, then our woman, Julie come from beneath your feet. For Rasul Allah wa salam also said,

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I seek refuge in your face, that you destroy my alma because of an earthquake, not that you do not destroy my alma because of an earthquake. Allah accepted his law. But when it came to, we'll be soccom Shia that he turns you into *. Not only this way you will be Aqaba combat Sabbath and he will make you fight one another. Look at this Rasul Allah Allah wa sallam also said,

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Allah said, No,

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I seek refuge that this does not happen. Allah said no, because this is the decree that this is a this is the owners. This is always

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look, whenever we abandon the man hatch, that method that religion, look wamena lady Nakamoto in

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100 meter home those who said that were Christians, we established a covenant with them what to follow that to follow the religion, the way that Prophet Isa taught it, which has to hate. Yeah, not the son of Trinity. Yeah, the week what happened? furnace will have one Mim QB, but they forgot a portion of what was revealed to them. What was the consequences for a variety Nabina who milada Well, Baba, then we placed animosity and enmity amongst them, that we divided them. Okay, so what's happening with the Muslims now that we abandoned

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the way of our Sahaba that we have our companions that we have the best people that the companions are the best generation ever Malik. Imagine the Quran was revealed while they are in earth imagined they would walk in and they would do things and the Quran would come down to correct them. This is a generation that Allah subhana wa Taala says I'm pleased with them above the law, I'm pleased with them. I like them because I'd say I'm pleased with them. Not only this, they are pleased with Allah subhanho wa Taala.

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So this is the basis upon which unity will take place. Okay, other than that, forget it. Okay, shake this begs the interesting question. And something that also brings confusion is this issue of unity. However, we do have people from different countries, they speak different languages, they look different, they talk different, they have different cultures. My father comes from Greece, you come from Egypt, this guy comes from Bangladesh. So we realistically we have differences among us. And in the ayah, in the Quran, I believe says, I made you nations and tribes to get to know each other. So how we have the sort of diversity. So how can we be united? How can this work? It seems to also like

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a difficult match here. You see, Unity has nothing to do with that.

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We do have a men hedge and methodology away, regardless of your color, regardless of your name, regardless of who you serve the dean under as long as you adhere to that methodology. You're okay. Right? Listen, Malik. Look at this. I'll give you a good example.

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Rasul Allah Allah wa sallam in a lot of battles. Yes, he would have an answer. On the one group under one banner, yeah. Phil Mahajan, under one banner,

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the writing

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you take the right flank of the other, you take the left flank of the army and other names are there.

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He divided them in to do what they would what fighting together what under what? lei La La ilaha illAllah. Muhammad Rasul Allah, okay. Look, look at this one day. And this is why By the way, this verse was revealed.

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Alma Mahajan answer they got on a fight.

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You know, one of them came and

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one from the P one, one p, one person from the people of the book came in. And he reminded them of the old tribal feuds. No, I'm sorry. I think it was two situations between an outsider has to be accurate allows

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formal answer and there was another situation where answer Yes, yes. But let's start with allowable hustlers because this is the reason why this verse was revealed in algebra and moto Sumo had led me on to Ferrari

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So to our one our C one has Raji we're sitting together and one from the people of the book was sitting down and remember these days when he defeated

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well from the people a Jewish man Okay, okay. You remember that day when he defeated the yes you remember that there

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a coup de gras Rasul sallallahu alayhi wa sallam came running. Abbe de Waal, Jay Z. What

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are you going back to Jay Hillier? And while I'm still living among the fall now he condemned that right? He condemned that, that you're using nationalism, tribalism to divide the Muslims, right the same exact scene happened.

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Morrissey and the story of F ck and all of this was triggered to actually be with a fight a fight between Mahajan and South overruled overwater the same exact thing. So now we'll also learn how to sell condemned using these banners in a divisive divisive in a way that you dividing them. But when it's uniting the Muslims, and as long as we all adhere to the dean, the way

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revealed, revealed and the way understood and implemented by the companions and their students, the second best and the third best generation Halas right, regardless of what's your name, what's your color, right? What do you what do you believe? What do you mean? Allah Allah Allah Muhammad Rasul Allah, the Quran and the Sunnah, based on the understanding of the three virtues which are located whether you're from Greece, whether you're from Asia, whether from Afghanistan, whether from your Bacchus tan, I don't care, let's work together, we have the same agenda, then why? Because we can celebrate diversity under this banner, right? You have a lot of experience in the United States

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working with different communities. So perhaps you can give us some realistic examples of how we can implement this unity in our personalized because when I walk into the masjid, and I see somebody speaking a different language from another country, to try to get to know him, I naturally gravitate towards the people who speak my language, and know my customs. So sometimes it's a little bit difficult to really integrate each other when we're kind of in this kind of melting pot society. And I think a lot of us in the states in Europe would appreciate that you see it. You see, I think it's a big mistake. And I'm glad you brought this up, that the viewers assume that when we were talking

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about * here and 73 sects, we're talking about Hanafi and sheffey, and Maliki No, absolutely not. No, that's not what we're talking about, actually, the division on the understanding of the hate, right, the Shahada in the towards the to kalama, right? shadow Allah, Allah, Allah, Allah, Allah, Allah, Muhammad Rasul Allah, the division is De

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Lima, hanifa, Malik, FHFA, they actually belong to these three braze generations, right? A lot of Muslims may not be aware of that, right? But actually, they lived within that time period that time periods upon. But now what happened? What happened is the methodology or I'm sorry, the method, not the methodology, the method, the school of thought, for example, for Lena hanifa,

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the school of thought of Lima Malik for

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flourished, in particular parts of the Muslim world. Yeah, like in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Abu hanifa, right. In Syria, Egypt and some other parts of the Sham, Jordan. Shafi, right in the peninsula and the Arabia. Mohammed, yeah, Mamma Mia. Allah have mercy on all of them. West Africa. Yes, yes. So now, talking about America, you know, when you're living in these countries, like when you're living in Egypt, because everybody sheffy it's generally accepted, right? It's nothing really that is denied. There is nothing to talk about, because everybody's doing not only not only the school of thought of Lena Shafi, but sometimes actually the culture being treated the religion a lot

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of people do certain acts like the Kabbalah.

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So I was brought up in Egypt, but when I'm in the machine, and I'm finishing the solar surface, or somebody

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me, you know, stuff like that, but everybody's doing it. Right. Now. Here's the what America comes in the game and, and I'm really, you know, America is a pool. Yes. A pool. What do you mean? You're gonna end up with Pakistani you're gonna end up with Egyptians you're gonna end up with West African. Yeah, but each one of those has his own school of thought. So now you go into one machine and you got to be the man.

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What are you gonna do? Now you have two ways to go about this. Whether you

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You turn this machine into an ethnic, right mother happy, right? One certain school of thought, right? This way you're going to find only Pakistani coming to the Pakistani. We want to avoid this. It's a Turkish Masjid. Right. It's a Bosnian Masjid not avoid You see, that's not what Islam calls for. Right? But now, for you to keep a community together.

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Now, you have to go back to what to these three generations, right? I look for the delille for the evidence, right? And you cruise with the evidence, right? You go listen, brothers Salam aleikum, we follow the three braised generations. And the one who possesses that belief, right. And we go to the consensus, if there is a conflict between the two there is a consensus of three of them said that one of them said that we're going to go with the three provided that the three do have the right if one has the deli, I will go with the one right so I'm after the deli, and this is what every Muslim must strive to do in the first place. Right? Because at the end of the day, you're trying to follow

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a sort of loss of Allah, Allah sentiment, and a lot of Muslims, a lot of Muslim, especially the brothers who are diehard

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madhhab, like I say, Abu hanifa, Illa, chef, Chef, I'm not gonna be

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the wrong attitude. I think they don't pay attention that there is a mams Subhan Allah, they actually made a lot of statements like Abu hanifa. So Pamela, he made that beautiful statement that you know what he said it sahadi Madhavi. He's basically saying, What if the delille if the evidence Rasulullah saw Salaam said something, and it's authentic? that contradicts My ruling, then it overrides my course. Okay, right. This is what llll he actually made another beautiful statement that no one is entitled to pass on my ruling, without finding out the evidence, which I used to establish to derive that ruling, because that evidence could have been weakened. Right, why that

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evidence would have been? No, the chain of narration would have been false or weak. You see, that the science on how to design the science of Hadith was not advanced at the time, the Hadith is still circulating around, right. And it was not compiled as we have it now. Right now, when you go into Google Maps, you know,

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just a small piece of the details, you come by here, whether it is who we can date and who's they didn't have this, they ruled based on what they have available to the evidence right. Now, they will not certain whether the Hadith is authentic or not, because there they are not aware, then the signs of Hadith was not available, not true. No, it was developed was not mature yet it was not it did not reach that perfection that we have as we speak. That is why they always stress the fact that let's go to the messenger format. But let me stress this. Let me just point this out. There are some Muslims Malik there are some Muslims who are unable to understand the evidence. Yes, certainly.

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There are laymen's Yes, Muslims, you know, brother, brothers smile, never been to school.

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Take it easy on them if they want to blindly follow.

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don't condemn them. Don't Don't leave behind Have mercy. Be kind to them. And don't make this reason to divide don't Yeah, you're from the sector Don't do this. Because there are some Muslims who do not possess the knowledge to be able to sort out the evidence, yes. And find out what is the true way and, and so forth. But in general, if you are a learned person, you are obliged to follow Rasulullah sallallahu and follow the evidence. And this is what we strive to do in America. Yes. And it's really trying it's not that easy. So, thank you for the quick break. I really appreciate it. It's very interesting that you said diversity there actually brings out the truth, right because

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very, very nice. Very beautiful. So we'll take a short break. We'll be right back you guys stay tuned for more hastened to goodness and please give us a call you guys you're alive. Those numbers should appear on your screen inshallah. So stay tuned. We will be right back.

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Welcome back to hasten to goodness, we are live. So please give us a call. Those phone numbers should appear on your screen. I'm joined this evening by Shea cream, Abu Zaid, the host of many beneficial programs 100 TV, who's speaking about unity in this beautiful night number on say Kareem, thank you for being with me. And thank you for choosing this beautiful topic. Shake. You have many beautiful stories regarding unity as you position as an Imam and public speaker in the United States. And you told him and he told me a beautiful story regarding giving a talk about and seen all the people from different countries. Perhaps

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You can share that story story with the viewers in order to kind of make them, recharge them and remind them that it's about you. And it's actually not only to me as, as an Imam, or as

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someone who delivers a sermon, even non Muslims when they see this one, they walk into

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that prayer room, and they see that people from all walks of Earth, Indonesian, Pakistani, Afghanistan, white Americans, African Americans, Egyptians, yeah, it was, you know, an old color colors all. And so Pamela something about the EAD. And that's what really gets the attention that every Muslim

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culturally, right, like you would find an Egyptian wearing the cultural dress, right, which is according to the suit, as long as you know, like we said, the basic rule regarding dress code is everything is lawful, right, as long as you fulfill the basic, basic requirements of the dress code, whether it is for males or females. So you find out that in the way that they dress, they are really different. Yeah. Mashallah. The way that they look? Yeah. But at the same time, we are in the same exact hole here and saying the same tequila, yes, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la la. And praying together, and especially after the football, after the sermon. You know, the men are there, they

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stand up and they hug one another. And they, they show that, you know, together having fun. I mean, this is the best way to compare to Islam, right? Because there is no other not organized. Anything system out there that can group so many people under the same umbrella. No way. It's impossible. Yeah. But again,

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if we want

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that unity, to serve the deen in general,

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we must agree on the principles. Like I said, that's the point on the foundation, because unity is beautiful in that they fade. But then after eight what happens?

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We need to go their own way. Yes, everybody goes his own way again. But what you see,

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listen, the work of Islam is not done on the shoulder of individuals, the work of Islam, the work of Dawa or defending the faith or

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conveying the message Yes.

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it has to be done collectively, together right? togetherness, togetherness. And notice this Malik. This is what the prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam did when he arrived Medina, these are the steps which he took the first thing that he established the masjid. Why? To lay that foundation as the focal point combustion because to lay that knowledge of the dean, this is what will unite us this machine and the knowledge to them that mess it is what will put our hearts together. And the second step which he took is

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bringing harmony amongst the fighting factions.

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Prior or pre Islam Lausen who has right right, and Mahajan will answer. Okay, well, let's, let's, let's unite now. So he somehow place the foundation that the source of knowledge that you know the connection with Allah subhanaw taala on the right foundation, and then fixing the relationship. This is what we need to establish communities will ever enter. So solid laid the template for a life loop that that blueprint. Now if we want to unite again, that's what we need to do. Let's agree on the foundation, the principle that we're on and the sooner based on the understanding of our righteous predecessors and go off and forget about that. Step number two, forget about our colors. Forget

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about our tribalism, nationalism, and be united to serve this deal. It's worth noting here as well shake that during the time of Rasulullah sallallahu sallam, he upset the whole social network in Arabia because it was based on tribal allegiances. So the idea to unite on something other than your tribal allegiance, your your your your father's tribe, your grandfather, tribe and so forth, was a great cause a great uproar. So they liked it. They didn't like it, they finally get that was one of the reasons why they brought him in the first place. So that's worth mentioning. worth mentioning, as well Also, this idea of unity

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Truly, as you mentioned, only Sam can pull people together. Because we understand that we are just human beings. A lot created us to have a certain look. And I look different than you and this man and this and so forth. No other system whether it's nationalism, capitalism, communism, any social, nothing has united people in this way and put them on equal footing, then I think it's damn easy. The thing about Islam is the template is there. The blueprint to unite is available, the truth is available. We just have to stick to it. Right. Certainly. And the moment that we do this, Allah will put our hearts together. Okay. Yeah. Well, I live in Apollo Bay. And Allah subhanaw taala placed

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affection amongst the hearts talking about the companions of Rasulullah sallallahu.

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It's the right certainly, we just need to learn it right. And and implemented and inshallah will be united, especially now with the mass communication, the media, certainly, the the Facebook, I mean, you could end up talking to somebody in the United States when you are in Egypt. Right. Right. Again, it is, in a way, it is possible. Certainly, yes. Take one small thing I tried to do in my local community is that when I see somebody from a different country, or culture speak a different language, I always try to greet them shake their hand and try to remember their name. Because even if I just only did this, this small thing creates love and friendship between people. So I don't

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have much in common with him. I can't speak his language. But I remember his name, I greet him with a smile. And this simple thing, keep it makes a small kind of unity in our local community. So I think that's one small type of thing. I mean, this is a very good step. I challenge all those a lot of communities,

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that even people who pray together the five daily prayers, that sometimes they may not know the names of one another. Right. And it's, you know, it's it's

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especially talking about the United States, you know, and Okay, well, the people are, culturally,

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you know, diverse, there is a great deal of the, you know, diversity diversity in the community.

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For this is a very positive thing that you actually introduce yourself and, and ask the person, what is your name, and it's a beautiful step, it also I try to shake also, not to prejudge the person. Sometimes we prejudge each other, we look down on each other. For example, oh, he's from this country, I already know what he's gonna do. I already know what you're gonna say, I already know the mistakes he's gonna make. I already know this guy's off. And this guy's wrong because of where he comes from. So we should give people a chance. I'm not sure what it is about, about our Muslim sometimes. But we somehow maybe we lack confidence, we look down on one another because the country

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that you know, one of the the most awful things that I would experience when I'm leaving the salon.

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And then after I'm done with the salon, I'm facing my congregation and I see two people arguing

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in the row,

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then, of course, the issue is brought up to me as a chief, you know, I'm trying to close the gaps. Right? You know, but he's not helping me out. Every time I come closer to him, he moves away, he moves away. Right? Listen, no question whatsoever. That straightening the lines is mandatory is something that even the Imam also lost, and his companions after him, they used to actually walk through the lines to make sure that it's straightened and there's no gaps between no gaps in between and Russell solid actually warned us regarding these gaps will be actually occupied by the devil. So there is no question about it. But now you ended up standing next to somebody who doesn't really,

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you know, believe that or let's say this, he was not brought up to do this. Yes. Nor he was given the opportunity to learn about it right.

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So now, what happens is you you know, like he they are like next one on so you come this way and he moves away. Right? Right. So that the other person insists Yes, that and sometimes they actually do like this, like touching his feet. Right? Right. So the other guy gets upset, and he hits

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right now, wait until the Salah is off. Right? You see, that is not, you know, the right way to go about it with and you know, enjoining good and forbidding evil. We do have certain etiquettes to go about. It must be done with good, you know,

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in my opinion, it's a greater evil that you get to Muslims find after the Salah when the Salah was meant to Buddha has to get Right, right. Yeah, great point. Yeah. So stuff like that. I think we need to there are a lot of mechanism that we write that we can develop in Sharla. I think and this goes back to the issue of leadership as well. If there's proper leadership that's agreed upon

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In this case, the Imam of the local community right then if you have the proper leadership and these issues can be sorted out. But if we don't agree about the leadership to begin with, then there's no possible hope for this to ever materialize. Is he talking about the the United States in particular, the only problem with the issue of leadership is they and this is, you know, one of the most awful things that really hinder the progress of Muslim communities in the United States in particular, I'm sure and also and in Europe, that the massages are not held by the Imam or not ran by the lamb. The exam is like, you know, some guy who leaves the salon gives a hot bath like the employee, he's

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somebody who was hired right here to do a job, right. Meanwhile, the Imam should be the, you know, the leader, the leader of the community, be the one who heads the community. So you end up with with these boards,

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some of them Mashallah are very good. I mean, we don't want to, to make a general you know, judgment here. Some of them are Mashallah very sincere, are very

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educated and, and they do respect the status of the member, a lot of them are not. So the community really lacks

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the identified leadership, right? Because you end up with the leadership in the body of those six or seven or eight individuals who are the trustees. So which one is is the meanwhile the Imam is really taken? directives?

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from the board from the board, right. And when there is a conflict, obvious conflict, he you know, he didn't want to steer right trouble, a trouble and trouble. And so it's a very, I think, the setting of the organizational chart, let me put it this way, in the United States need to be reconsidered. I'm talking, you know, practically all i'm not sure about Europe, but they need to look into it again, because it causes a lot of disarray, a lot of

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it really hinders the community from progressing, right? Certainly, we'll have about three or four minutes left. But I want to mention to you, that many of my non Muslim neighbors and friends, when they understood when these are not accepted to stem, they became very interested. And whether they have a Latino background, or they are African American, or they're white or whatever, they all gravitate to stem because they, they are amazed that have this issue of unity in diversity. And this becomes interesting to them. Many times new African American walks up to slam he'll name himself DLL, or someone from another country will do something similar because he finds his ethnic group

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somehow represented under the banner of Islam. And this is something beautiful. And I think that if we miss out on this and we don't unite, then we are missing out.

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We'll we're going to lose a lot. I mean, it's it's, it's sad to see that you see, like, like we said, at the very beginning of the show that you serving the dean under any color, right? under any banner,

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you name it, whatever you want to do, but what is your message? What is your methodology? It is the Quran and the Sunnah, based on the understanding of the three brace generations or not.

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Yes, Carlos, right. Right. If this is find your niche there, there is no problem. Right? Right. For sure. You know,

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one feels more comfortable working with his Yeah, we should mention that to culturally sometimes you feel easy and comfortable. Yes, working with with with people who are culturally near you then. Right. But that shouldn't hinder you from working with others working with others. Certainly, there was a hadith I believe fake that Lord said, some sort of a racist word. And he said you still have some ignorance in you. Yeah, because we're human beings. So people should remember that. We are human beings, we make mistakes, but the idea is we have this principle that we tried to operate on. And we and when we get away from it, we seek refuge from along we come back to that. So if you do

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make a mistake, you know, we we have this principle to topper on the other hand, talking about there is

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one of the companions met Abu Dhabi and he was placing a garment on his somebody who's a slave with him and and he was questioned. Why are you doing this? You know, why are you garment in him? Why are you clothing him from the identical

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clothing and clothing that you're wearing? He said one day, I had an Abyssinian slave and I, I have to be on me. I insulted insulted his mother, or I said, You are the son of so and so.

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Arsalan rebuked me and told me don't do this. This is Jerry Lee supanova. And he said, these are your brothers, you know, you clothed them from that which modeled yourself and you feed them from that which you feed yourselves for, at the end of the day. Yes, I think the point that you're trying to drive here is we may end up falling into the DOM of our culture and showing pride and arrogance and arrogance, because of my ethnicity by because of my tribal background because of my cultural background. But if you do this, just apologize and move on. Right? Because don't dwell on this. Yeah, you know, don't dwell on this just there is a higher privilege that can unite all Muslims.

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Yes. Under it in order to serve the deen and we do it for the sake of Allah so that we can make a difference. You know, I I truly believe that the reason why

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a lot of our brothers a lot of our sisters are being attacked, killed, assassinated and punished across the Muslim world across the world. Yeah. Look at the map. Wherever the wherever there is a bloodshed. Muslims are being looked at the map. Yeah. Just go Burma, Reza, Pakistan, Afghanistan and Iraq. Look at the map. And the reason why is disunity

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now, don't promote unity on the false basis because it's counterproductive right promote unity on the basis of the Quran and the Sunnah based on the understanding of the generations, which Rasulullah saw Salah priest Ananda I suppose when the program shakin thank you for your time and I hope you guys have benefited from this episode of facing to goodness you guys we'll be back tomorrow at 11pm live you don't want to miss it inshallah. Have a wonderful night and until next time, live in the care of Allah Assalamu alaikum Welcome to logical recap

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