Channel: Kamal El-Mekki
This lecture was given on April 19, 2017 at the ISGH River Oaks Islamic Center.
So from a promise you made in the past,
and the second is when we forget, and that happens to all of us. And he promised me this and I didn't. Remember you promised me this this day or what? Pull up an email? Oh, yes, yes, you're right. I didn't in the beginning, I don't remember. But
he denied so his offspring also inherited the quality of denying when as the dumb fallacy, and Adam forgot. And when it says forgot here, now you see why he denied. And of course, we're not going to accuse a prophet of Allah in being deceitful or dishonest anyways. But, you know, if anyone wants to attack, you tell him all the holiday stuff has been the answer, because he forgot, and his offspring forgot as well. And we'll have the Adam and Adam made a mistake. So his offspring also have this quality of making mistakes.
And we said that Allah subhanaw taala honored him by allowing him to do to complete his term of 1000 years, so he got his 40 back and got his 40 as well. So that would live to 100 as well.
Then we get to the issue of the size of Adam.
in Sahih Bukhari and Muslim, the prophet limited in the law halaqa Adam Tula who says to
Allah created Adam, his height is 60 arm's length. So the length of the arm. And that's 260 arm's length with summer. That's how tall he is.
Then, and then the president said to my Lem, yes, and, and Hulk young,
and then the creation will, will continue to decline in stature to the decline in height until now. All right. Now, there's a lot of discussion here.
But there are many, many of this different Hadith mentioned in this issue as well. That
Yeah, that Allah subhanaw taala, created Adam, and he was 60 cubits tall, it's another one behind a Muslim. So hurry up. So for some said, Everyone who enters paradise will be in the form of Adam, who is 60, arm's length, or cubits tall. And then it says people kept growing smaller until now, that's another Hadith as well. And then half of the Nigerian Allah comments on this hadith. And it says that it means that means that in every generation people grew shorter than the previous generation and continued to grow shorter until the time of this woman. Then they stayed like that. Now, what if someone says yeah, but for example,
sometimes people are getting taller. Now you'll see, the national average height of some nations increased by four inches. what they see in general human beings became the average became four inches taller, due to, they say, due to better health and things like that. And health during infancy, especially. And, or, for example, they say that when fast food was introduced, one of our teachers told us, again, at the university with the school, that when fast food was introduced to Japan, the average height increased by two inches, you know? So, anyways, so what if someone says that we have evidence of people getting taller or bigger or faster or things like that. So there was
a gradual decline from the size of Islam until our size now. So the fact that there is another up and down here, somewhere down here, it doesn't. It doesn't contradict the general slope, right? Generally, there was a slope, even, even sometimes in the middle, there was an increase. Example.
The people have hooked at a center, Allah subhanaw taala says was the
bus stop, and alight increased in size. And if you remember, the people who voted, they were physically large and powerful, and their homes were were very powerful. They're built of stone. And their economy was strong, their armies were strong. And because all of this power, the miracle of wood, Edison was one.
This is one of the lesser known miracles of profits.
What was the miracle of who that is?
But I'm not gonna ask you to look it up next week. I'll just answer it now. His miracle was they couldn't have heard him.
And it's a miracle that matched. They were so lucky. dooney Jamie and robber said, attack me Do whatever you want. He could never hurt him. They're powerful. The weapons are probably armies are strong, the houses are strong. Everything about them is strong. And his miracle that they couldn't hurt him, which is an extremely cool miracle, right? Really, really cool. Miracle occurred me. Go ahead, do whatever you want. He could not hurt him. The Miracle matched what was happening in the town. Everybody's powerful. You're so powerful, you think you can challenge and it just hurt me that they could.
So that was
What what we went from when we went from that example is that within the decline that can be another up and down, but generally the in size, there's a decline from the time of otherwise, until our times
what would be then the wisdom of people getting smaller?
What do you think? What will be the wisdom? Why get smaller? Why not stay the size of atomizer? Yes.
Maybe anything else you think? Yeah, yes.
Sorry. Yeah, people are going to increase. Imagine 7 billion at the size of
talk about fighting over resources.
Everything is it will be an issue water and vegetation, everything will be an issue. So it makes sense that you will get smaller.
But there are some issues now. And you know, also
that in the Bible leads to believe that the earth needs to be inhabited by giants. Okay, so we've got a lot of questions to answer one, why don't we find giant skeletons? When we find old skeletons are small? That's the first thing.
And then they claim that they were human. But we find don't find giant skeletons or huge skull, you can go inside of or something like that. And any, they say, different calculations of the size of them, because arm's length, isn't that precise, right? Everyone has a different size arm and all that. But they generally say that he would his height was 37 meters. Or
either way, at some point they did. What's the word when you
when you set a measurement, a fixed measurement? There's a word for it. Yeah, there's banking firms. They standardize the arm's length. And so basically, when they said this is the online,
they measured it to be about 37 meters, the height of the monster. So if someone is doing well, I shouldn't do mirrors because this is America, right? But I'm still electric. But that's like, basically somewhere around 90 feet tall.
Okay, now the height. If you want some perspective, the height of the cabinet is 40 feet tall.
Okay, even though people used to say is about the height of the cowboy or what have you. But anyways, when we're looking at a gigantic person, you may have seen that if you google there is a thought of some Arab country and they made the film based on the size of other metal, like pull it up with the crane in this gigantic, really, really huge, and that is higher than the Kaaba. All right. So, and we said that even like we said, Some Christians in the Bible, it says that there needs to be inhabited by giants, yet we don't find their skeletons. That's one. And two, there is an argument that there's no way
that just using physics, there's no way a giant could anyone over 12 to 15 feet, we'd have a very hard time being able to move and the bone structure. We're going to talk about that in a second. But I want to start this by saying that, so I found this video of this speaker in the Arabic language, who is creating a lot of fit in like he likes to challenge things that are in, in the Quran and the Sunnah. And he packages it with facts and he makes it look scientific. And then but in the in realistically, it's not sound logical thinking. But he's taking people by storm because he presented like it's, you know, scientific and research based, and then you read the comments. Mashallah
brilliant genius. I never thought about what are what to think or what, uh, you know,
there's a, there's a rule I have always been saying, generally, there is there are some people in the audience, the minute they don't understand something, they instantly assume that it was deep. Yeah. So a guy who does some philosophical nonsense, makes it convoluted and people that there's an A portion of the audience that says, Oh, this is heavy stuff. And I didn't get it. This must be way up there level that I don't understand people who have reached that level and made that connection or that kind of nonsense, right? So there will always be people impressed with gibberish with garbage. And I think I don't know if it was here or not. But I was giving the example of this guy
who claims that, for example, that the judge doesn't exist. What's his argument? He said, we've scoured the earth, we've explored all the earth, and also through Google Earth, you can explore it and we haven't found the job. And you have to do and so on and so forth. And realistically,
Google Earth wouldn't show you that the job anyways. Okay. And it wouldn't show you that the barrier of the hydrogen modules because the barrier can be covered with trees it can be and we have not scoured the earth. So just go home and Google, unexplored regions of the earth. There is a lot. I mean, a lot of the earth that has not been explored, places that we know very well and we have an accent.
All right, I was talking about like, for example, the Amazon. Some scientists believe that of all the species that are available on earth that we've identified right now, there is half that amount undiscovered inside them in the Amazon, okay. In Central Africa, the many jungles that have not been explored in Bhutan, they have a law, any mountain over certain meters in height is considered holy. So you're not allowed to go there, explore a hike at all, and they have been untouched. In Papa New Guinea, many places completely untouched. In 2014, they discovered one mile under the ice, and entire underworld. 2014 is how, just a few years ago, an entire underworld in Antarctica. And in
Iceland, also they discovered the whole world and an entire lake. Sorry, the the underworld was in Greenland. And the
the entire lake was in the Antarctica. so much stuff is still being discovered. So many places that are Siberia, the largest country in the world, by far is Russia. The second largest country is much smaller than largest country, Canada, but Russia is so big 70% of its landmass is Siberia, covered in in snow and going into the north into the Arctic Circle, and much of it unexplored. And then this man, and they always sell him as like a science based Muslim speaker. And here he is didn't do a simple Google search. But the masses are impressed. So this speaker was saying there is no way that the mighty Salaam could have been that big. And he says in, in so many words, it doesn't matter if
this hadith in Sahih Bukhari and it doesn't matter if the chain of narratives was authentic, so we can authentically say this goes back to the proselyte. When he did speak these words, he said it's scientifically impossible. Why? Because he's basing it on something called square cube law. Square cube law says that, basically, if I have
you centimeters converted to inches, and it's no problem. Let's say, Oh, no, just say inches, you have a cube, right? That's one inch in height. And if so it's a cube column, everything is one inch by one inch by one inch height. With length, right? So the,
so it's one inch in height, but it's volume. Now its surface area will be one, one square inch, and its volume will be one cubic inch, one times one times one, and one times one for its volume. If you make it 10 times bigger, okay? Or let's say if I have a rectangle, okay? It's one inch by five inches. So the square, the surface area will be five square inches, five times one, and five times one times one will give you the volume, right? Now, if you multiply it by 10, okay, it will not be 10 times bigger, if you multiply it by 10. So means so basically, now this rectangle or this structure is 50 inches by 10 inches by 10, then its surface area increases by 100 times, because
it's 550 times 10 times 10. That's no, that's volume, sorry. 50 times 10 is 500. So its surface area multiplies by 100 times, and its volume doesn't increase by 100 times its volume increases by 1000. Because it's 50 times 10 times 10. That's 5000. Oh, so the volume increases by 1000. And the surface area increases by 100. Whatever numbers you put, it's going to increase by 100. for voting for surface area, it's going to increase by 1000 for volume. So they say based on that, it would be impossible to have any giant living on Earth, because once their volume increases, their height increases. When their height increases, the surface area will increase by 100. And their volume will
increase increased by 1000. So if a man weighs again, I'm using kilograms but and if a man was 80 kilograms, or let's say 150 pounds, his volume if you get a man 10 times bigger, he won't be 10 times heavier, he'll be 1000 times heavier, right, based on square cube law. Okay, so before we discuss the same density to me as soon as the same density, okay, you're getting ahead of us very good time. So a few things. The first thing you know, let's look at it concerning square cube law. And and I also want to mention something.
in Sri Lanka. There's something called Adam speak. All right.
Anyone been to it?
You've seen on YouTube, maybe
you've read through it. Okay. Very nice. So Adams peak is basically, you know, you go for a long time up the mountain 1000s of steps, then you get to the top, and you're gonna find a rock with a footprint on it. And Google, YouTube is very interesting, Iraq with the footprint on it. That suggests though, that whoever or whatever left the footprint was four meters tall, twice the size of the human being. So realistically, it's too small for others. And, um, as far as we're concerned, and our Howdy. And there's something very interesting about again, you actually see a clear footprint, you see a toe and five inches, five toes, and you also see that they were like when you
lift your foot off, if you're walking on mud, okay, when your foot lifts off, your toes are going to leave some kind of, I don't know the exact word, but some kind of trace, as they're lifting off, they will leave this mark, the mud will smear in a way, right? And that solid rock has that same smear, and it really does look like a footprint. And we're not, we're not gonna challenge you if it's a real footprint or not, even though it's vertical, it's like this footprint, we're not gonna challenge that. Anyways. But we're saying that's not advice, footprint, that's what we're saying. It's not advice and footprint. All right.
So now, to answer this issue, is there a way to reconcile the howdy with the science, especially with square cube block? First of all, we need to understand a couple of things. Number one, that
if you ever study what they call research methods, right research methods, which is, which is a very interesting science, I believe, even if you're not in the field that use it, that would use research methods, find that course taught at your local university, and just take that one class, because it will, you will see the statistics differently. Research, when someone tells you research shows this, you will understand it differently. When they show you graphs and statistics, you will completely understand in a different light. And you will never be fooled by by by graphs and statistics. And research shows that that's such a statement now. And now they'll they'll do research, and they'll
find the most obscure relationship, and they'll try to create a link. And if for example,
I don't know like we could, for example, look at Scott's making a sample case. So it can be flawed. But look, we could research we could look at the health of teachers, right? If we look at the health problems, public school teachers have, do you think they'll have all diseases and illnesses and the exact same numbers and ratios and percentages? Or they might be more of a percentage of diabetes and heart problem? Are they going to all be exactly the same? We're going to find some pattern, right? So the dishonest researcher now finds that pattern and then says, the height the headline will be the article link between diabetes and teaching and public schools. very dishonest. But you able to
catch this dishonesty when you study that that that field any research methods? And in the beginning of our of our textbook, the first chapter discusses his research value laden or not. Meaning is it inevitable that somehow even subconsciously you might inject your own values into the research or want to see your own, you might want to see certain results. So even subconsciously, you might twist everything to give you the answer you're looking for. And they discuss it in at length. And then the end of the chapter, they clearly say it is value related, you're valuable, will always be injected into the research. And that's the value of having other people replicate your study your experiment,
your research, because they might come from a different angle, and they might catch where you made the mistake and so on. Anyways, so that's that's the first thing. The second thing to remember is that
the science now
has become the battleground for political and religious battles. Yani when there is whenever there's
a gubernatorial debate, there's a debate for governor. They always debate evolution, versus creationism, this new governor is you're going to promote teaching creationism and creationism in school or not, we're evolution. And so the political science came into this into politics here, and it becomes the battlefield. Science came into religion and became in became the battlefield for religious issues. So you will find, for example, the issue of evolution. And that's why that's one of the reasons I don't discuss evolution with people. And when giving our industry when someone challenges me with evolution, I never discuss it because evolution left the realm of science A long
time ago. It just became a political issue. That's what they've mentioned in a political debate evolution, yes or no? It it stopped being science A long time ago because
As you see dishonesty from both sides, you'll see Christian scientists who will show you evidence that humans and dinosaurs lived at the same time. I'm not making this up, there's a video of a scientist, and he shows you some footprint fossilized footprint of a dinosaur. And on top of it is a footprint of a human. No, the footprint of a human on top of it is a dinosaur footprint. So he's saying this human being walked on the month, he was going someone, then a dinosaur came the other direction, going some later on and stepped over his footprint. So dinosaurs and humans lived at the same time, he will show you this thing. And then fossilized, preserving that dinosaurs and humans
live at the same time. Now he's making this science now. Why? Because he has an interest here. He's not a researcher who's got who's being objective, he has an interest to prove that the Bible is correct, that the earth is 10,000 years old, or 6000 years old, whatever argument they make, and the dinosaurs lived with humans, right? At the same time, look at the other side, again, dishonesty. You remember when they found this skeleton of Lucy. And Lucy was a big deal because they said this is the first skeleton that that proves or that shows now, the human being standing upright. But there was a problem with disclosing Lucy, the pelvis indicated that was an animal that were whatever
creature that moved on all fours and did not stand upright. So they said
that the pelvis was damaged. That's why it didn't look like that, because a deer probably stepped on it and broke it in half. So what do they do, they can't restructure or reassemble the pelvis of looseness to sacred, right. So they made an exact mode, you can watch this video on YouTube tonight, they made an exact mold of the pelvis of Lucy, and then they took the mold apart, they don't, they're not gonna take apart the actual pelvis, right. So they made an exact mold of it, then they took the mold apart, and glued it back together to represent an animal that stood upright. And the scientist no shame lifts up, the FDA puts it together, it lifts up the pelvis to the camera. And you
know, like when it's like a vase or something breaks, a mug breaks, and then you glue it back together, and you have holes, and light could come through them. This guy, no shame lifts up the pelvis. And this is how it looked to the camera and light it's coming through it. You restructured to say it's an animal standing upright. So it's important to understand that a lot of times science becomes the battlefield for politics and religion. And it loses what science should be, you know, seeking the truth and facts and all that. That was the second thing. The third thing, a lot of science is theory that's presented as fact. And the word theory means different things in different
fields, disciplines. And for example, the theory of
the theory of gravity doesn't mean that we think there's something called gravity, because gravity is a fact that you can prove it, right. So in some disciplines, the word theory means something solid, in some discipline theory is just an assumption, an educated guess, and so on and so forth. But a lot of times theories presented a solid fact, they don't tell you when the theory is presented as fact. And a lot of it is theory, like the theory of what would happen to the human body if it traveled more than faster than the speed of light. You know, and it's based on good science, a lot of times, we're not saying the calculations are off, but it's the theory in the end, but a lot of
times is presented as crap. And, and there are many things that even from again, what's in the science, it's in a science textbook costs. That's it. But remember, the things we were taught that were wrong, but they were in the textbook, you know, even simple things concerning dinosaurs. I remember when we were children, the Stegosaurus had two plates of armor on its back. two rows. Yeah, yeah, I remember that. You remember that? Right? And then they said, No, it's just one now. That's why if you don't believe in watch Jurassic Park.
All right. The fourth thing to remember, because because why am I saying these four points because science has become a religion in and of itself. Now, if somebody tells you, science has shown us sciences call us you're dumb. You're quiet. If someone tells you to head bukata says this, but sciences, the other, you think, well, that's for sure. It's science. But you can question that science. And I need to see the research and I need to look at your evidence carefully, right. The fourth thing is that
there is a difference between the philosophy of science in science itself. We all studied science in school, but very few people, unless you purposely went out to study that.
Nobody's taught the philosophy behind each science. And the science works under a different philosophy that's in the background. So for example, one of the philosophies of science is that it is scientists philosophically atheistic and materialistic. What does that mean? Meaning as a philosophy science refuses to accept God as an answer. That's how it's atheistic.
philosophically, but there's nothing unscientific about believing in God, you understand any, I could come to a conclusion that Allah exists through an analysis that is 100%. Scientific, okay? Give a scientist the Quran. So this book was written 1400 years ago, I want you to analyze it with with a magnifying glass and conclude, at the end of your research, I want you to conclude using good scientific analysis if this book could have possibly been written by, by human beings.
And you know what he should conclude right? As he goes through it. As he looks with the science, knowledge of the future, no grammatical mistakes, no contradictions, it remains
consistent 23 years, like I said, If I told you write a book now, you cannot rewrite chapters and finish it 23 years from now, is this book gonna look the same? The beginning and the end will be different. The end you're more mature, more was better grammar, the beginning just video games and nonsense, or maybe not nonsense, according to some people. Anyway, the point is, the book would so they have to know, using their analysis here, conclude that this book was not from a human being, and concluded was from God, they came to this conclusion through good analysis that was scientific, you agree. But the philosophy of science is something else. It the philosophy of science refuses to
accept God as an answer. You've never opened the book that said, How do the cells from the father and the mother knows to divide and how to the skeletal muscle know where to go and cardiac muscle knows where to go? And everything goes to the right place? Nobody's born with hair inside their eyeballs and things like that. So how do they know where to go? No science book or biological ever said, God tells them where to go. Because as a philosophy, they don't accept God as an answer. Everyone somehow atheistic, then materialistic, that the answer has to be actual material in front of you. When you tell a scientist there's something called jinn, they're invisible. They're here,
you can't see that. He tells you No, we don't believe they asked to get folic acid, this discussion with mine,
philosophy, psychology professor, she showed us a case in class that was pure gin case. And I told her something called gender.
we don't we don't have genome camera, we don't have any evidence to support that, according to them. But I could put on a plane to child or Morocco or some or Sudan and they'll stick it in and her from the airport. And then she shouldn't believe right? They put agenda and agendas all kinds of things to her and she sees things and hears voices and feels things. She She goes back and writes about it in a in a in a scientific journal to be ridiculed. Even though that is the dictionary definition of a scientist is someone that learns through observation and experimentation, even though they might experience or observe something, they still as a philosophy can't explain that or use God as an
explanation. Are we clear that there's nothing unscientific about the existence of God, but as a philosophy, science refuse to accept God as an explanation in textbooks? That doesn't mean God is unscientific? And many people are confused about this. And I'm not talking about Muslims. Many non Muslims are confused about this. I was reading one article, and it was about creationism versus evolution. And the guy says, the writer is critiquing. And he's criticizing. He's saying, they're, they're presenting creationism as if it's something that can be proven with a test tube,
you see, and he doesn't understand the philosophy of science he doesn't understand is all this all science fit into a test tube? Is all science using test tubes, for example, psychology, its behavior, behaviors, observation, you can also experiment and put different variables in and look at different things. But not all science fits in a test tube anyways, all the NASA and space stuff, they fit in a test tube necessarily. So anyways, I hope everyone's clear on this. But so we're saying that to kind of like demystify this thing when someone says science says, or research says, All right, or statistics show, I always like to say that
most statistics are made up, right. 53% of people know that
all right. So they're saying then based on square cube law, it's impossible that any, like any human being up over 12 to 15 feet would have a very, very difficult time. So you know, I spent the last two weeks reading all kinds of articles on this issue and people on scientific forums debating back and forth, but as much as the whole article is saying impossibly impossible at the end, they leave room for possibility.
Just to be brief,
just let me just give you some I don't want to spend the whole day. But so we said that if a human being weighed 80 kilograms, the bone density the bone volume increases by 100 times, but the weight increases by 1000. So they would say the bones would break every time they took a step to walk, right? Because his weight knows 80,000 80,000 kilograms 10 times bigger now.
So the muscle muscles, their volume increased by 100 times, but they have to hold and support a weight that's 1000 times and the bones would would not be able to, then they argue that the heart rate would have to also drop and I'm just going to refer you to a really amazing series called inside nature's giants. such an amazing seriously just these scientists would dissect just the largest animals dice like whales, and YuGiOh crocodiles and tigers and lions and giraffe and the camel and but the giraffe and camel episodes. Ah given the horse but the Gerson a giraffe and camel episodes are beyond amazing. I mentioned the camel because the camel has some things about its body
that is so unique. You understand why lizards fly into a cave? Something very unique about this animal called the camel camel. And they dissect one and they show you all these body parts. Amazing. All right, then the giraffe and they discuss how the blood reaches all the way to the brain. How can it go all the way up there and the blood pressure is going to be really heavy on the legs. So how does it work? There's an answer for everything. And it just only wanting to give you the series is so incredible, but it's completely ruined by the foolish guys. His name darkens completely. He just comes in and starts stuttering is such a disgusting human being. He just wants to prove that there
is no God. Even in the middle of this. You're an evolutionary biologist, what do you know about God? anyway.
So the point is that the giraffe for example, three meters tall, and its blood pressure is 280 over 180 to 80 over one in what for human beings, it's 120 over 80, which is acceptable 120 over 80 to 80 over 180. So the blood pressure increases a lot. And the heart will do a lot more work. And then the post rate falls also the elephant's heart that posts heartbeats at 30 times per minute, versus the human being, which is the average of 70 times per minute. So they're saying Adam is still up, his heart rate would be really low, it brought blood pressure will be really high, it bone his bones will not be strong enough to withstand the weight of his body, his muscles will not be strong enough
to move his weight. Right.
so, and Okay, now then the other argument becomes,
well, there are animals larger than humans on Earth now. The elephant was five tonnes for 60 to 70 times heavier than a human being, or like a five pound elephant would be 50 to 70 times 60 to 70 times heavier than human being. And then we've had, you know, you know about dinosaurs.
There was one called one kind of dinosaur referred to as the giraffe, a Titan, this thing, they estimate its weight to be from 20,000 to 30,000 kilograms. That's anywhere from 45,000 to 60,000 pounds. All right. So some argue that Oh, but there were animals on earth, that size, a bigger actually than that. That's heavier than Adam. And then there was something called a bruhat. Who have kale Saurus this thing, but there's dispute about it, because they only found partial bones. And the partial bones indicate that this animal would be somewhere around 308,000 pounds in size. And it was a land animal. The blue whale is about 390,000 pounds in weight. Okay, why can the blue whale gets
so big? Because buoyancy because it's in the water. Now, so here's the Now Is it possible to have giants on earth? One, if they were different in proportion, meaning that they were
proportionally very different, like their bones would be like, big bones, like the size of dinosaur bones. So they wouldn't be looking like our bones but longer? No, they'll be much thicker bones to withstand their weight. That's one argument or to be a very thin type of species like with, you know, maybe sometimes you see some people and you even wonder where the muscle is, like you see a leg and he can move but I don't see any muscle and he just bone but he can move. So maybe a very thin so what I'm trying to say is they argue the other argument is that it would be possible
But they would have to be proportionately different than human beings. So to be a giant, you'd have to be either very big, thick bonds, just like a dinosaur leg kind of bone, or extremely kind of thin type of people, then they would be much taller and still able to move about
another thing. So just that if the gravity on earth were less back then then it would be extremely possible, the whole issue of blood pressure, and all that is all gravity. Now, we don't have any evidence that gravity was less anytime on Earth.
But now, I'm not trying to hint to you that it's possible. But just the sentence says, We don't have any evidence that gravity was lower back then. Right. Now, obviously, it could have been lower. But I don't have any evidence to say it could have been lower.
But I just want you to note the kind of wording when they say we don't have any evidence now. But I don't want to come off. Like I'm trying to defend an Islamic position by saying it's possible. And there's nothing even though there's no evidence, but saying we don't have any evidence also doesn't make something impossible. I just want you to note the language, even though I'm not trying to argue it was lower. I'm not
gonna say she, I mean, why, why not just look at the fact that Elizabeth has said that he was hollow. I mean, he was he was hollow, it could have been more hollow than we are, you know, what I mean? I mean, like, we're, we're assuming that the larger human being would have the same, you know, the same density of skin and all these different things like that. And maybe his bones were hollow. And that's the first point that they would have to be different from us physically, proportion in thickness or in, you know, being lighter.
And then the other thing is that other possibility theory and get with theorizing, the other possibility, and these are the arguments that are out there amongst the quote unquote, and using the term loosely, the scientific community that they could be,
they could have had stronger bone.
From the bone, it's not possible to have stronger bone material. Look at look at animal species and look at bones, look at bird bones, for example, have a lot of airspaces inside to keep it lighter, versus other animals with much denser or thicker, much more bone density anyways, but now, after all this headache, here is the conclusion. All right.
square, square cube law
is physics, not biology, I was very happy to find this square cube law is physics is not biology. There is a lecture online a complete lecture, an MIT professor who and he brings to the classroom, the femur of a mouse, the femur of an elephant, he actually brings it pulls it up like this, okay, his teaching at MIT, you can watch the entire lecture. Or you can just watch the part where he's refuting square cube law as it applies to biology. And he gives good evidence, and in good arguments that this applies to cubes, but it doesn't apply to animals, and he proves it through the animal kingdom. Anyways, so that if, if you didn't, if you didn't like anything that was said now or
nothing made sense, just remember this in the end that
you're someone who just will prevent present some facts. And you can present counter facts. We're not going to question our authentic narrations from hearing half the facts, or theories that support one argument, you go and you find theories to support the other argument. So I'm not going to cancel out of it. Because just one guy has a video where he quotes a law that deals with cubes. And I say, based on this call of Norway, Adam, Iceland was was larger. And there are other plausible theories that are scientific to explain how a giant privilege on earth
then we come back then to our question of Yes.
Go for it. So just as somebody who works in medical science research,
about everything that you're telling me, is, I think back to the people back then, in the earlier centuries,
and how much faith they have.
If you look at all the beautiful stories of the Arabian Nights,
1001, late nights, and mysticism, and just amazing stories and things, their imaginations run wild with them, because they truly did believe all this stuff. So they actually applied it to their stories. And
I am just looking at the,
for me, everything that you're seeing right now is like okay, I
am more familiar perhaps with that, but it's making me see that other side. I just want to say that and as long as you're happy. We're happy.
okay, so why can't we find these giant skeletons on it? First of all, let me save you some time, every image and whatever record whatever you find of giant sculptures online, either fake or they're just no proof for it. Okay, now we don't need. Some people make it a condition that if Allah tala performed a miracle or did something that was what we find now out of the ordinary, we have to find archaeological evidence of it. Okay. So you find the Muslims, just Google, the attack on the moon, well, is there a crack on the moon? And you will only find Muslims who have YouTube videos and pages and documents telling you there was a crack on the moon. All right. That's it. They're just called
NASA. And we all live next to NASA. Right? He called them. He said, Did you guys find any evidence of a crack on the moon? And they said clearly no. Because here's why. Because Allah subhanaw taala. When he breaks something apart, he can glue it together very nicely, without leaving evidence that it was broken. Unlike when you broke your mother's name was based when you were young, and you put it back together, and she can see sunlight coming through. Right? And the only crack happening there is what is smoking. All right, there's no crack.
There's no crack on the moon. There are no 12 channels, you can see in the Red Sea to say, Oh, this is one of the 12 tribes of British Red Cross. There is no we haven't found the ark. And it's not a conditional we may have may have not been conditioned to believe in the foot, we have to find the art we have to find evidence of the flood. And to believe in this we have to see. And to believe the other was huge. We have to find gigantic skeletons because that would be too much. That would be too much to find a big skeleton and then you say you see yellow everyone become Muslim right now. You have to find the big skeleton to find all these things that that clearly indicate that Allah
subhanaw taala His Signs aren't like that. They're not in your face. They're sucking
the thunder in the vedantic. Allah is in the coalmine for Corona, the other verse Luke Coleman yatirim, in these things are Signs for people who contemplate for people who consider there are signs of Allah on earth, but they're not neon signs anybody can read, you have to contemplate and consider. So to find the giant skeleton is just too much. All right. Now, some people said that Adam alayhis salam was that size in the heavens, and when he came down to earth, and some of our speakers mentioned this, when it came down to earth, he instantly came down smaller. The only problem with that is that the Hadith says for masala hongkou yonkos that the creation, continued Mazza to
decrease in stature until today, you see, so when you say he came, he was this big, and they have an instantly came down smaller. Others say and this is possible, we're not going to fight it too much any other say that other Muslim came down big, but the generations went down much faster, not gradually. So I'm just throwing numbers and making things up. I said, I'm this big. Next Generation instantly with this big next one instantly. So within just a few generations, we're down to normal size. All right. But
like with many other things only, we don't have to.
And I don't mean faith in the Christian sense. for Christians. faith means I don't have evidence but I have faith. And in Islam, faith is a verb people, we don't have that concept of
faith. We don't have that concept. We we have good evidence, right? Yet we have proof or we have like, for example, if I establish the court orders from Allah, then logically it follows logically that that everything mentioned in it will be true.
As a result of it being true. Mmm. How much time do you have? It is
920 now okay, but
we will move on
to the organs coming soon.
What was I saying?
You said it was not necessary.
Okay, I think I think more or less.
Yeah, we don't have to find the evidence. We don't have to find the large skeletons or anything like that. One theory says they became small quickly. Others say no, gradually, but Allah will allow us to find gigantic skulls just like he doesn't have to leave that sign for us to believe. And a lot of times like I had a friend who told me actually show me something so become Muslim. And it would you want me to do get a long stick and open a window into paradise Have a look. And then open a hole in the ground so you'd have to sleep right there.
You can't do that. But But he wants to see something so clear and then belief. But my point I want to make is that mental seeing is stronger than physical.
To see the actual scene, all right, mental seeing is stronger. And I always use the example of optical illusions. Even the in the shadow, of course, we have optical illusions in the nose, you look at them, and you see the images are moving, but you know, they're not moving. Which one do you believe your eyes or your brain here? You tell me. You look at the optical illusion on the page. And it's all these lines that are together and they look like they're moving. You see them moving? is seeing believing? No, because here, you're mentally seeing here, your brain takes precedence loss. Logic takes precedence. Even if you see it with your own eyes, and reference. If you want an
illusionist to disappears, or he you don't say, Well, he disappeared. You try to use your brain and physics and an understanding of trickery to figure out how he did it.
Or if you like those sad Muslims, they instantly say he has a gym.
They don't have gym, none of them have any gyms. Okay, they all use, they have writers. And they sit down and they write these tricks. And they look at angles and they have the here's a rule any time a magician stops someone that says we've never met again, we've ever met before, correct? The guy says correct. It's false. It's a no known thing. And I said before that I can pick any of the hardest magic tricks. I'll explain it to you how it's done. Because it's something I'm very interested in. Now, I said that before the conference, and the hater said, he said he will teach you the magic of residuals. And he said will teach us I will explain how it's done. And plus, they don't use gin. If
Of course anyone saw a genie he would faint and never do a show.
It's all just physics, and trickery. And very, very clever. There's a documentary on magic. Also watch it by that guy, Neil deGrasse Tyson, right. It's very clever in psychology. Yeah, yes. As
you address that question, you mentioned
Yes, someone else also reminded me of that. And I probably shouldn't have mentioned it because it's like, this is like the longest cliffhanger ever. Three weeks
maybe Okay, let me see where we are here.
Okay, I think
we still have like that some things just on our list is
that question How was English able to trick Adam even though he was born to not be tricked by nice
eating from the tree a little bit about the police the incident of commandment to Prostrate to Adam, where is the agenda? What kind of tree was it? The fitrah of the that's another discussion we have also coming up the verses of shirk.
Yeah, so these are still some of the things on our list. We've got like 15 or so minutes
So I think
we should do the prostration to other my salon Yeah, I think we have to do that.
So if you guys want me to skip to how he got them out of agenda because of I'll do it because it's good skipping ahead in the order of the story because first he has to prostrate to atomize salam will have to explain who at least was and is and then we'll have to get it. But you want to skip and just do that? No.
Coming up, coming up right after.
Okay. So that Yeah, the next our next point so Allah, Allah Allah created Adam Allison, I'm now going to the Islamic knowledge journey, the the process of love and the third heaven made use of Allah Salah. He says I saw use of use of workers who to shelter and
that half of the beauty and then one explanation was like I heard one time from somebody said, Allah, Allah created beauty, beauty itself. And he that that's the beauty that's gonna go to stars and waterfalls and butterflies and birds and greenery and all that they split it in half and gave half of it to use of ice. And when you hear that, you're like,
come on, come on the universe. The beauty of the end is all of beauty and avenues to use
the other station which makes a lot more sense, it's easier on the mind is gonna say that Adam I use if I was given half the beauty of other because we have to be 100% sure that for sure. The most handsome man ever beautiful ever was Adam Madison. Amen.
Why? Because made with a loss of data credit him with his own hands in my head up to be a day would be a day in Arabic is too it's not anything else they said no no hands here means power. There's no such thing as two powers your day and yet model form is known what it is. So Allah subhanaw taala fashion him with his own hands. He's got to be the most handsome human being and the most beautiful woman ever was
Okay, so, use of Elisa Lam was given half of the beauty of Adam and half of the beauty of Adam caused the woman to cut their hands remember? Now I didn't say what can I do I woke up
at Can you imagine something that is will distract you so much that you would be cutting an apple and slicing your hand once and still not feel it? Because you're so distracted? Twice? Three, I can't think of anything. I love that much in the dunya. Anything.
Just cut it once. The heck was that thing and instantly. So that's how handsome right?
Some scholars said the wording of the Hadith is weird. I saw use and he was given half the beauty.
So this is the partial I'm set in such a weird way. Because out of his hair, he was too shy to say half of my beauty. So he said half the beauty. Because otherwise why did he say half the beauty of other they should have? So they said that use of Islam was half as as beautiful. And as soon as the prophets have said, and when you read the biography of the CEO, the posts that you read his description. Do you ever come away with that? Twice as beautiful as use of it center? Do you ever see that, and he was described as being the most handsome man and everything. But nobody expressed this incredible need. And that's why I was gonna say that people always examine.
We always want to exaggerate or we want the problem to be the most beautiful, the one that was most tested, or you listen was the most tested, for example, an example. And use pricing was the most handsome, and so on and so forth. And there were some things that were different. Danny musallam spoke to a lot for his first revelation. And the person spoke to a lot after the 10th year after the AGM, right? So it doesn't have to be like that. And there's covenants mentioned the hadith of when the Arabs came to the limit, they said you are saved, and the son of mercy, you are best and the son of our best. And he said do not over praise me as a Christian overpaid the Son of man. And he said
and he shouldn't in another light of love for bill to put me higher than where I should be, you know. And so to want the person to be twice as handsome as usual and excellent. It doesn't even serve a purpose here. The scholars say Allah subhanaw taala was, or the pasta lamb was given something similar to the beauty of use of it cetera. But Allah subhanaw taala covered that beauty of the Prophet lamb, half of it with Eva, and in Japan, and work on. So the person that gave the process allows you to get the process, this presence, a commanding presence, and look of haber Granger, someone that you don't fool around. And that explains why the companion said some of them
said, as long as I live with the President, I never got enough of looking at him, because he had so much of a commanding presence that you couldn't just stare at him like this. So they would just stare at you and he was not looking.
Okay, and, and it's just more look at the life of use of it.
And the tests he had, and it's related to his beauty, right? Look at the length of the process of them. And for half of it to be haber and commanding presence makes a lot more sense. Because usually, they have battles, and butter and flavor and all this stuff. Most of them had that any and that was more needed and for him as opposed to being extremely beautiful. voice is beautiful as use of added center. There is no need for that it doesn't fit the story of Mohammed Sawsan anyways.
So then two as an honor to add the medicine and we're moving to another subject now as it does to honor other medicine Allah subhanaw taala commanded the angels to make sudo to prostrate to them.
They did it as a greeting to Adam as to honor Adam and as obedience to Allah subhanaw taala and that's why the angel is willing to do so it was not to do the worship. And as you know the nations before and also to reference the story abusive I said I'm again in the beginning what does he see 11 planets and the sun and the moon prostrating to him and the sort of ends with that actually happening. So Jews back then was a sign of respect and it was not out of worship. So here the angels out of greeting and respect to Adam and Salaam and out of obedience to Allah the means to do not out of worship. And these submit and they obeyed what Allah subhanaw taala told told them to do
A lot of data says in chapter 18 was chapter 18.
So 18 is a
With unleaded Mullah equitas Julie Adam, in a police academy, the professor can America. So, so let's look at again, when we said to the angels meaning when Allah, we hear royalty when Allah said to the angels bow down to Adam, they bow down, except he believes he was one of the jinn. He was from the jinn. And he basically disobeyed his Lord. All right?
You see, you see something from the distance that looks problematic, we commanded the angels to make to do to them. And they all did, except it believes he was not an angel. He was from the jinn. So why did he get in trouble that the command was clearly for the angels? What did the police get in trouble for never considered?
Yes. I mean, the explanation I've heard the most is that,
you know, the angels were the company and that the police had been honored enough to be
stationed among them. So he Okay, he was among the more that you only mentioned the
most important members of the group. And that's the various, for example. And so the scholars give the first expedition, they say that, when a command is general, it applies to everyone there. Yeah, I mean,
brother thought that he was elevated to the level of the angels. So he was in that gathering. And when the gathering is commanded, you will be you will, it will automatically apply to you. So like, right now we say, okay, all the students, everybody, all the students stand up. So everyone stands up, except one guy,
brother, who said, Everyone stand up. He said, I'm not a student here.
But you're in this gathering. So the command was for the gathering, and we weren't getting technical here. So please, if you can,
in a non haram way, imagine it is with the angels, you just see the gathering of angels, and if this is worth a look amounts of to make sure.
So the command automatically applies to him. Makes sense? Number one, number two, they see that I'm that candidate, Allah Yash Manuel Edna, if the command is for those who are in higher in rank, it automatically applies to those who are lower in rank, and a lot honor the police and brought him up to the level of the ages. But was he equal to the Indian rank? No. So if a command comes for those higher ranking, does it automatically apply to those who are lower ranking? So an example one of the scholars use, I like it very much. He said. So. So I, me and my dad, and my son, we go visit the scholar, right? So my dad and I, and my son, we go visit the scholar. And
my father tells me Get up and shake and kiss the hand of the shake. All right, which not in a weird way, but it is permissible to kiss the hands of scholars and the heads of scholars. And we're talking here all good.
Scullers guns in the truest sense of the word. Don't go kissing the 25 year old had the gift.
I always wonder like when people come try to kiss my head What are you doing?
Don't kiss anyone you resist the pull on you guys some one guy. This guy pulled me so much. I felt something God this located.
What do you think you don't
mind to get some young guy kisses him? What on earth are you don't know kissing?
My face? It's enough 19 Colossus, right? Anyway. So my father says, shake the chef chef, shake the hand of the chef and kiss his hand, or kiss his forehead, right? So my father tells me that, and I go and do that, then it's my son's turn, he just goes and shakes his hand.
Is it acceptable? Will Tell me if someone is the one higher than you had to kiss his forehead? What do you think you have to do?
Get some feet to write. But you should have you should have done because if the command comes to those higher than you, it automatically applies to those Lord. If the angels were higher than employees were commanded to bow down to Adam, it automatically applies to English, even though he's in the gathering. That's another argument as well. But now here's
so it's not obviously. And it was far from doing unjustice here. What if someone says but that's not fair, he was the commander, the commander was for the angels. Now, if you look at it, please, never, never makes the argument that I thought you were talking to the angels. True or false. He argues I'm better than him. He uses his estimation I was creating from this. He's going from that and so on and so forth. But he never says, oh, you're talking to me? I thought you were just addressing the angels, because he understood that. So which is really interesting. If you please didn't make this argument. Why are you defending
us as lawyers?
You know how some people just want to I don't think it's fair that English was English didn't say it's not fair. You want to argue for him.
But I think it's fair to stop now because it's two minutes. I'm gonna start something else here.
Okay, this is what what we have in front of us. Now we've covered all this. We've got a little bit about in place we've got how he got them to eat from the tree, the issue of Boeing, we did this right. Where is the agenda that's going to be next? That's my favorite part of the discussion. The arguments genda appear down here. That's next week. We're also gonna look at what kind of tree was it that they ate from what the scholars said, Alright, and where the apple idea comes from, you know, like, apple, you give your teacher an apple one, because they give you knowledge and that was the fruit of knowledge. Apple computers has an apple with a bite taken out of that's all based on
that. But even the Bible never mentions apple. So what did the apple idea come from? We're gonna look at that. And then we can look at the fedora. That's not also next week, this is what we have left inshallah, the fedora, and then versus accusing Adam and ship and bowing to the shaytaan. We'll explain what that means. And beyond the few contributions here and there would have covered the majority of what we want to cover and I think we just end with a little bit of the story of the children of Adam oh seven is that is that standard that does not have for coming presumptive listening