Kamal El-Mekki – Life of Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal #07

Kamal El-Mekki
AI: Summary © The halifa and former president have lost the trust of majorities and the public. A woman was punished by the halifa and a man named Jota hula. The transcript describes a man who refused orders and confusion over the Quran. The transcript does not contain information about a specific candidate or a candidate's origin. The transcript describes a situation where a woman was approached by a woman named Janae and Speaker 2 interrupts to ask about a woman named Janae.
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Salam Alaikum to lower capital Bismillah Han Rahim al hamdu Lillahi Rabbil alameen wa salatu salam ala rasulillah. Meanwhile, he was so happy

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about. So a lot happened last time, we basically got into the most heated and most difficult days during the Halo, oval moto sim and the debating with him and then the most severe times of his imprisonment and his whipping. And if you remember it ended where an AutoSum was afraid that this would continue. And there was fear that Mohammed had died for a moment. And he felt he got a sense of the uproar. And the anger, he basically got a sense of the pulse of the population. So he knew that he better let this thing quiet down. And so he was allowed to go free, but he was only allowed to stay in his home and not to go out, no one was allowed to come study with him and so on and so

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forth. That's where we ended and then we went into during his period of let's call it house arrest. We went into the story of the great scholar, but they ignore Khalid when he was a student of knowledge coming to study with Mr. Malik, mmm Ahmed, disguising himself as a beggar and so on and so forth. So, as a part of our recap, we've it's been 28 to 30 months of imprisonment for him being chained, shackled, whipping, and not only does he not give in and concede to what they're calling him to, but he doesn't even break his fast on these hot days when they're whipping him and punishing him in that way.

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So remember, the fitness started with during the reign of mourn, but he died when a mama had made his draw to not basically to not see him. Then in the second or the second hollyford moto Sim, we said he was a soldier he didn't have much knowledge, and he let him out of prison but he's under house arrest not allowed to meet with people or teach or even accept guests in his home. Except for obviously, like McLaren the muffler became the who came to study with him in secret. So Mohammed remains in that situation until the 227 after the hegira when and moccasin finally dies. So when a person dies, now the halifa after him remember we started with more than a moto sim and now and

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worth UK comes and he's in charge. sadly enough throughout even when Arthur comes into power, even Evie to add is still the minister still the advisor and other people are still in his government so they might zillah still have control.

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I just saw this someone sent a joke. I hope you can get it someone. I saw this joke today. As I was preparing this class or thinking it was funny. It's so related. He said that the joke says in the rain or in the time of Coronavirus or COVID-19. The Mattila are the ones that will be saved in the house carriage are the ones who will be destroyed. Alright, if if you understand Arabic, you'll get that joke. Because Mozilla so they stay away from everyone and they stay in their homes, the average literally the ones who go out. Alright, anyways, the point is

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a little bit about and worth what's interesting is and what they actually used to refer to him as the second moon. Remember the difference between moon and moon was the one who was he loved knowledge and learning and he was himself intellectual and studious. And then an AutoSum was just a soldier and kind of an ignorant person. So Alaska now is known as the second moon meaning he is similar in the sense that he had knowledge and he has had love of knowledge and poetry. But he was also different in that he was very severe if someone disagreed with him. And he had also some other strange, strange things and his love of songs and things like that.

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And he wasn't very welcomed either. When he became the halifa, there was a famous poet who wrote lines of poetry attacking him back then, if a famous poet wrote a poem about you praising you, that was the equivalent of the media it spread, and everyone memorized it, and it was like a big thing. So this poet, his name was Dr. Wood. He actually wrote a poem insulting him and completely destroying the art. And he himself came and gave it to the guards of the halifa. He said, Give this to the halifa and tell him this is a poem in which Durban is praising you. So when the halifa received, he was happy in the beginning when he

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Reddit, he became extremely angry. And he basically it's like putting a warrant out for the arrest, you know. So Google became a wanted man, and they wanted to capture him, but they never caught him. He stayed in hiding.

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Mr. Ahmed, now remember with

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moto kin here, right? Sorry, within worth. So with this new Khalifa Mohamad now started to leave his home, though he didn't rekindle the issue of the creation of the Koran. So Mohammed started to leave his house. And he would start to teach the halifa was very busy in the beginning, because he just came into power. So he needs to settle his affairs. So he spent like about two years just not dealing with the issue of the creation of the Koran, everyone left him alone, and he's just dealing with issues of his government.

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But in a moment started to as we said, teach and leave his home. And so when things start to settle, now they start to see what's going on. So the judge of the city of birth dad, his name was at Hassan ibn Ali. And George, he wrote a letter to me, they've been able to add, he says, In God in basata, Bill Hadith, he says, I must now start to teach, and to you know, he's like, taking his, you know, taking his comfort, you know, and just speaking as he would like, so I haven't been able to add now is afraid, because in my mama teaching, means, whatever, we're spreading declines. So

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he went and told the halifa Now, those were some people who are close to the halifa. But they were they were basically sympathetic or sympathizers of Imam Ahmed. So they leaked the news statement, they told him that, you know, the halifa started to look into you, and so on. So number one did something really wise, he himself stopped teaching, he just cancelled every class of his and stopped going out to teach. So so that's very wise, because now they received the news that Oh, he's not teaching anymore, so they're not going to send him a letter and say, don't teach already stopped teaching. But at least now, no one officially banned him or officially stopped him barred him from

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So remember, haven't figured out that the fitness probably going to be rekindled, or has already been rekindled?

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So when the halifa saw that Mr. Mohammed was not teaching anymore, he basically was a little comfortable.

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But he sent out to Mr. Ahmed, he says Now notice he's mostly afraid of him because of his popularity amongst the people. So he sent a letter to him saying, learn to sell a kidney be like I basically I don't, I don't want you to live in the same land as I do. So Mr. mahama, then disappeared. No, it's not knowing exactly where he went. But he disappeared and remained disappeared until and worth UK died.

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Now, we said and was feared mmm at the most because he had the largest following and the people might revolt if something happens to him. But he did rekindle the fitna. He just excluded Mr. Mohammed, he said disappear. And he starts to test and put pressure on other great scholars. And mostly for today, we're going to be looking at Alaska versus these other great scholars of Islam, who gave their life up for this.

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From one of the greatest amongst them was a great great man and a great scholar by the name of Ahmed industrial and urban Malik al Jose de Nasir, Eben Malik al Jose de, and he was a scholar, and from a great lineage a very generous man. And he was a contemporary and a student of Imam Ahmed, a student of his shame in Bashir, if you remember, I keep having to say his father was the cook, you know, who supported him when the judge visited his home and Sophia and Marina who needs no introduction. So and then one of the interesting descriptions they have of Imam Muhammad Nasir Rahim Allah, they said that he was originally ama, and it's such a beautiful description, which means that he even though

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he had deep knowledge, he would go in depth with his students and everything. But when he taught the common folks he simplified it like he can talk to the AMA to the layman. And that's such a beautiful description and it also shows his wisdom, because a lot of times you find some speakers and or scholars, who are not able to simplify the speech for their audience, which

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Is No, no not not not a great sign of being an excellent teacher should be able to always to simplify or speak at the level of whatever level your audience is at, you should be able to speak at that level.

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So, when he saw this is Amitabh Nasir, in medical Jose, he saw the situation this government is so corrupt, and they've got this corrupt issue that they're forcing down everyone's throats. And in his mind, he's seeing how can false falsehood, the people of false will be this daring and the people of truth, be this afraid. And he saw that this government was not deserving of allegiance nor obedience. So he started to he joined a plan to overthrow the abetted dynasty. All right, if you remember, the ambassador overthrew the Romanians, and there were a number of revolts throughout this dynasty. dynasty.

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attempt, some of them partially successful, then they would fail.

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But he joined this group, and some would say he was actually one of the leaders of this group. And long story short, basically, they were supposed to overthrow the government. The coup was planned for a specific day. But there was some kind of miscommunication, and it failed. And they were all captured and gathered and so was Ahmed Nasir el Jose de so they brought him to his hochland Ebrahim and then they were taken members, Hakuna Brahim, then they were all taken to the halifa. Allah Who ordered that Ahmed Abdul Nasir to be brought to him. So he's one of the ringleaders and a scholar. And remember, the number one issue right now is the creation of the Koran. So he brought him and

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they left everyone else they brought Ahmed Abdul Nasir. And Werth says something strange to him. He says Dharma tele, he says, leave what you are captured because of what you were brought here for. Multiple Quran says, forget what you were brought here for, and how can you forget that like one of the biggest things to any government is anyone who tries to overthrow them. That should be the number one thing. He says forget that right now. What do you say about the Quran?

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This was the year 231, after the hijra, and Mohammed Nasir was 80 years old, is an old man. And they described him as a white beard white hair. So he stands in front of a warthog and he tells him koulamallah the speech of Allah. So I was asked him a mahalo Khan, who is it created? He says, who are Columbia Law? He said, it's a speech of Allah.

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So then, and was asked him a different question. He says, A Fatah bakoma al qiyamah. Will you see your Lord on the day of judgment? And Nasir mala answers kazaa rewire meaning this is how the narrations came to us meaning that's how it is in the Hadith.

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So in worth, then lunch is screaming and he gets upset. He says we have to you

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euro camera your

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dude and motor just Sim.

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Yeah, we have Mark McCann, where sir who never he says he's going to you're saying that alone will be seen as something that has a physical body something that's physical in a physical object and is he is taken by or he takes up a specific space, you know, anything that has a body takes up a certain amount of space. And then he can be seen and captured by people's eye sites. He says an ACC photo by Robin has he slit photo. He says I disbelieve in God who has such attributes. I don't believe in a God that has attributes like this. Then he turned to those who were with him and he said what do you say?

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So a man by the name of mindedness have we mentioned him before and he's to come to Mr. Mohammed in the prison of his half at this point. He is the judge of the Western District of Baghdad. So, man in his heart, he says he's the first one to answer out and he says his blood is halal.

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And the others who are present agreed as well. So yes, his blood is valid. But I haven't been able to add the minister here. He says yeah, I mean, he is old and mortal. And he's an old man. He's got something wrong with his with his head. He said perhaps there is something wrong with him or you know, something mental happened to him. So just delay his affair and don't deal with him right now. Basically, trying to intercede doesn't want him to get killed.

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Not not out of sympathy or anything. Just put little

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strategi probably not a good time, what have you. The halifa then looked at Amitabh Navidad, and he refused his opinion or his intercession and said, I don't see him except as acting on his cover steadfast upon his belief. Then he ordered Bring me a some sama as some sama is just huge sword. It's a big and heavy sword used for beheading people. So he says, Bring me us some some.

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And then he said to those around him, I want you to feel this here. He said to those around him, this is the halifa speaking earth. He said, If I get up to him, so bring me some summer when I get up to him, let no one get up with me. So nobody tried to stop me. Nobody tried to help me Why? For I seek the reward in my footsteps to this cafeteria and I'm expecting a lot to reward me for every step I take towards this cover to kill him. He says for I seek the reward in my footsteps to this kafir who worships a god we don't worship nor know with the description which we eat with which he has described himself.

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Then the chef was placed down on the ground and he was tied up and he ordered his head to be stretched out. So he wants basically his neck to be visible. So with a rope, he had them like stretch his head out, so his neck is visible.

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And then he walked to him. And he struck him with his sword. And he cut off his head. Yeah, he personally did it was personally struck off his head like that. Then he said, he ordered Bring me a piece of paper. And he had dictated he had this written Bismillahirrahmanirrahim her the rocks, rock. So he said this is the head of NASA alpha sorry, this is the head of NASA Jose, there are who are who Abdullah and Mr. Harun who was Billa ameerul momineen. He says he was called he was given he was basically meaning called to the truth by a

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an Imam Harun he, and he is alworth Remember, we said is the regnal name that they would choose as they're in power?

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Who will work mila ameerul momineen He is the Emir of the believers in a coal beheld Koran. That's what he called him to sow a miracle meaning he called him to, to say that the Quran was created when a fish be and to deny likening a lot to his creation. All of this, of course, is you know, skewed and messed up in his mind.

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Forever inland Miranda, so he refused, or basically insisted to be stubborn for Jota hula, hula Nara, so Allah hasten to him to his fire.

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And then he mentioned the person and Catholic The one who wrote this physically and physically wrote this out and was here Mohammed Abdul Malik

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as a yet you remember as a yet

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then they took this letter, this note and they hung it on the ear of the head of the nozzle. And the head was taken to above that. And it was hung on the eastern entrance to the city so that the people could see it. And for months it stayed there and then taken and put on the western side meaning the entrance of the city and it stayed there for months.

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this was when they when they hung it up this was on in the year 231 after the hijra and the 28th of the month of Shabbat and his body remained in Samarra, our Samira Samira for six years, until they were finally put together head and body and they were in he was buried in Baghdad in the month of show world 237. After the Hydra for six years, his head is just picking from place to place like that, until finally, he was buried with his body.

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But news of this incident of the beheading or the killing of Ahmed inositol, Jose he, he actually made him a hero, and many exaggerations and rumors spread.

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One of the rumors is that after his head was caught off, his tongue would continue and kept moving and reciting the Quran until it was buried. Can you imagine this rumor and again, it was a rumor not a Karama or anything. But it just gives you a sense of how much he became a hero in the minds of the population that they said for six years. His tongue just kept reciting Quran until he was finally buried. But it shows you that he was he became

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Great in the hearts and the minds of people

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and he became known as or he was known as a Shaheed that nobody said Ahmed Manasa anymore because they they just said a shade and everybody nobody said which shade everybody knew if you said a shade, it means the great Imam Ahmed Eben Nasir

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and Imam Ahmed been humbled himself, you would have a lot of respect for him and he would say, Rahim, Allah Makana, uscar. la caja de been upset. So he praised his sacrifice and he's to praise him.

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people remained attached to this man and his heroics for a long time to even bother al Baghdadi

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Metal Hammer Hola. He mentions that when a moto kill came to power, remember, we're within weissach right now, but we're fast forwarding now after he dies. And we are now in the reign of Al mutawa kill. This is just for this glimpse of this story that we're going to look at. He says when it came to power Abdelaziz Eben yahia al McKee, Abdulaziz bin Yahya al MK mean, l McKee.

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He entered upon l Muto kin, the next halifa and he said, Yeah ameerul momineen there is nothing stranger. Then the affair of and wassup. He and meaning your brother here, the Khalifa before you he killed a Hamad bin Nasser Al Hussein he and his tongue would recite the Quran until he was buried. So Muto Qin was disappointed by this bothered him why meaning my brother killed such a righteous man that is head kept reciting Quran and good and righteous person that was a bad kill. He shouldn't have done that. He felt bothered here my own brother did something so bad to a righteous man. Then Muhammad Abdul Malik as a yet entered upon him remember our eyewitness when he went and he sat up

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front to see between a moto sim and Mr. Mohammed he said and to my sitting next to me was even as a yet here we go. So Mohammed Abdul Malik as a yet entered upon a motorcade. So he was just feeling bothered about what his brother did to the great Ahmed Manasa. And this man of bizarre walks in so and Muhtar Kent said to him, yep Vanessa yet there is discomfort in my heart from the killing of the nozzle. You know, I feel so bothered that my brother did that to the great Amitabh nos.

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So is a yet said yeah, amirul momineen. May Allah burn me if ameerul momineen Allah wa suck had not killed him except when he was a Kaffir. You see what he's saying? He's saying I mean your brother and work in he killed him when he was a catheter. If that's not the case, may Allah burn me.

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So then how to sama entered, and so the halifa moto kill tells him

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Oh Ha sama. There is discomfort in my heart. something is bothering me like this issue from the killing of Amitabh Nasir. So how does the Masters Yeah, I made money. May Allah cut me two pieces. The first man said mela burn me this one says May Allah cut me to pieces. If ameerul momineen allopathic your brother had not killed him except as a counselor. Then I'd be entered so he said, Yeah, I'd be to add there is discomfort in my heart from the killing of the nose. This is bothering me. So So I've never had to add says yeah, meaning May Allah paralyze me. If ameerul momineen elevada had not killed him except as a Kaffir. Meaning Don't worry about him being killed by your

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brother. He did the right thing he killed them as a gaffer. I'm vouching for it and if he didn't kill him as a confirm Allah burn me May Allah cut me to pieces May Allah paralyze me. That's what they're saying. Later on, when we're talking and did the fitna. So we're still fast forwarding now, right when we're talking into the fitna, he took him as a yacht and burned him just as he had made Dr. supplicated. So it took him to Zed and burned him. As for her Thumma who said May Allah cut me to pieces, he fled. He is because now the halifa ended the fitna. So these people who are close to him now fled. So this guy has sama he fled. And he went to hide where in the worst place possible

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near the tribe of Hosea. Remember, Vanessa and Jose. So

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that was the tribe of the Nasir. So a man recognized him and he said, Oh, people have Hosea. This is the one who killed your cousin.

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Ahmed Nasir. So Hosea attacked him and they cut him to pieces. As for Ahmed Abu ad he died paralyzed just as he made the DA.

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So we're looking at the unsung heroes in the issue or the the fitna the manner of the creation of the Quran. We first did the number of medical kuzari. Now we're doing No, I'm Evan Hamad, who is a scholar and a muhaddith. And someone who refuted the people of bedarra. I spoke about him briefly before he wrote 13 books responding to Al jamea. And he was a student of who Shamoon Bashir, the son of the cook. And later on, you know, anyways, he would get like a special attention from his shaman Bashir. Ahmed said, I do I believe I did mention this before, but it was basically no, I'm the one we're talking about right now, who came up with the idea of categorizing the Hadith. So back then,

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people would just sit and write the Hadith down from the chef. But he came up with the idea of putting them into categories. How do you think taharah put it in that chapter, you know, hadith of Salah here Hajj like that.

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And Mr. Mohammed says that he says, No, I am the Hamad came to us while we were at the door of Hussein, we're still studying with Hussein given to Bashir and he says, Have you categorized the Hadith of the Messenger of Allah sallallahu Sallam? So from then on, we took heed to that we start to categorize the Hadith. Those who narrated from No, I am of the Hamad. We're you know, Marine, Marine, the great scholar, and we've mentioned many times before him, I will Buhari and NASA he a tirmidhi. And even in prison, all he did was he would teach people filk and Hadith.

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Yeah, they said he knew one of the things they said about him that

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he cannot kind of mean, alumnus bill for it. So he had a lot of knowledge and Alfred, and we used to call him Nyman and forth. That's the nickname they gave him.

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basically, he was in Egypt, when the fitness started. And he was taken all the way from Egypt, to bug that for the sake of being tested. Not only that, he was taken with the great Imam, and boy, this is in the year 230 23. This isn't the beginning of the fitna, and he refused to respond to them to agree to what they're saying. And he was placed in his change. And when he felt that he was going to die, he asked to be buried in his chains. So people were surprised. So why do you want to be buried in your chains? He said, Don't let when I die, don't let don't take the chains off me, bury me in my chains. So they said why he said in Nanaimo housing, in new housing, he he said, basically,

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what he's saying is, on the day of judgment, I want to come to a large region in my chains, and, and, and bring all those people who put me in these chains in front of a lot to judge.

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But he died on the Sunday the 13th of July the oola in the year 228. During the beginning of the reign of the halifa, allopathic,

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another hero and contemporary of name

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is use of ebony here and boy, I just said a few seconds ago, that when I'm mad was taken from Egypt to about that ol boy, I went with him use of Libya here, and boy, who was taken to prison with no aim of Mohamad and both of them died there. No aim was first in the prison in summer rock. And then in 228, they when he died, they just threw him in a hole, no shrouding, no washing nothing. And boy, Lee was the shift of the Shafi scholars of Egypt, he was one of the greatest scholars of Egypt, and he was the leader of the sharper image hub in Egypt. And

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when he

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what's interesting is I'm a chef, I loved him very much. But what is amazing is that when a mama chef a first saw a boy for the first time ever, he tells him, he just looked at him, and this is years ago, right? He looked at him and he said, You will die in chains. You will die and change Subhana Allah, how Allah gave him this, you know, this feroza You know, this insight. He just looked at him and for no reason I just said you're gonna die and change.

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So when he was questioned about the Quran, Allah boy three Rahim Allah when they came into

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to debate with him, he destroyed them in debate with evidences and logic. So they put them in prison and they increase his chains and they put a weight, not just extra heavy chains, but they put a weight on his chains. This man by the name of Robbie Anderson, a man, he says, I saw, listen to this narration. He said I saw a little boy tree on a mule on his neck, a shackle on his feet, there was a chain and between the chain and the shackle, a metal chain with a brick weight weighing 40 pounds, so changed from here, big chain all the way to his legs. And in the middle. There was a heavy brick weighing 40 pounds that just, he's wit it's on him 24 seven just weight just fatigue just

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punishment. He says on his with a metal chain on it a brick that weighed 40 pounds. While he was saying

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in Haleakala hulka deikun

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He says, Allah created this creation by saying can we know this? We know it it's in the Koran. We know that Allah created he said B and things became right. He said for either can at Khun ma Luca.

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Luca, Luca.

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Oh my goodness, so powerful, so powerful. He says Allah created the creation when he said can be now you're saying Allah doesn't speak so he creates the Quran he creates the speech. So if Quran is created, that means something created created the creation.

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I hope you I hope you appreciate that brilliant argument like he is chained like this on a mule and he's saying this out loud in Nima Haleakala haka beacon for either kind of couldn't mock Luca, Luca, Luca, powerful, powerful, powerful, he was firm and his belief and said, well law he, I will die in these chains of mine, so that a generation after us will know that people have died in their chains because of this affair.

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I'll be honest, that this statement is this this statement besides the heroics of Imam Ahmed, but this statement is my number one motivation for always doing the story of my mother and the creation of the Quran. He says, Well, I will die in these changes of mine. So the generation after us will know that people have died in their chains because of this affair.

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So at least at least let's know that he died in his changed. Let's know the names of these great heroes. This is a boy Li Rahim Allah.

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He says, and if I'm entered into Allah, I would tell him the truth, meaning I would not hold back, I would let him have it.

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so he was then

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yeah, he when he was in prison, he changed the prison to almost like University is a place of worship and a place of knowledge. And he was always in prayer during the day, and during the night and we see this now being pretty common amongst top level scholars praying a lot during the day and during the night. Witnesses says one of the eyewitnesses says I have not seen him at any hour of the day, except that I heard him reading the Quran in prayer, meaning he is always in prayer reciting Quran and he remained for years in prison. And he wrote to a rabbir Evansville a man in Egypt or awareness that a man is the man who took over his halaqa remember, this is the leader of the the top

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scholar of the chef and he must have been Egypt. So when he was taken over by Mr. Lehmann to cover you know, all his lessons of the halaqa and all that. And he wrote to him, he said, sometimes, or he said, sometimes would come when I would not feel the change on my body until I touch it with my hand. You understand? He's saying there would be times and remember how heavy these chains were, there would be times where I could just not feel the weight of the chains at all. And just forget that I'm chained until I touched the chain. And remember though, I do have I'm wearing a chain, but he just

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bought him a holla

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he used to send you know, the advice to a Vietnamese a man, the one who took over the heliconia tell him to take care of people take care of newcomers especially in travelers

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coming to the * after coming to learn from you. And what is beautiful boy three Rahim Allah whenever he would hear the other than the call for Friday prayers. He would make losses. You know, like try to prop up his clothes. Make

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can look as presentable as possible. And he would make listen. And he walked, he would walk to the door of the prison. And the guard would return him. So he would walk, can you just imagine it like every single Friday, he would wash and he would look straighten his clothes up. And he would start walking, get to the gate of the prison. And the garden would say, look, where are you going? So I'm going to, to answer the call. Friday prayer, I'm trying to I'm trying to go to the gym. And the guard would tell him you can't leave you're in prison go back. And he would say Allahumma in Harlem, and he got gypped to the eek Femina oni, they'd say.

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He would say, oh, Allah, you know that I have responded to your caller. When he said, Hey, Allah, Allah, Allah, you know, that I responded to your caller from And not only that, they stopped me, they prevented me. And he avoided him. Allah remained in prison for eight years, and died upon this patience and steadfastness.

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like we said, Mr. Mohammed remained like the the boomers leader at that point, but many scholars were imprisoned during the reign of weissach. And Werth just didn't want to touch him other than the humble, because the people might get to the point where they will revolt.

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Then we have another incredible and great man and a great hero, Abu Abdullah man, his name is Abdullah Abdullah Muhammad, Allah drummy. And he was one of the teachers of the shoe, it was one of the shoes of a Buddha would sadhana Buddhahood and unnecessary. He was entered upon and worth. Alright, here we are, we're talking about the lagna Mohammed a dummy, sometimes they will refer to him as a dummy. He, he says he was entered upon and was now chained up, when his change comes in front of a wall

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to add, and others, and he began a debate, but he begins the questioning. So he looked at me.

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And he said, You have nothing to add, or son of a b to add, inform me of this belief, I need the creation of the Quran. Is it something that is wajib and included in the foundation's yahner like the pillars, so that the religion is not completed until we see what you have said? He's asking him Is this something that is part of the foundations of the religion, the fundamentals, basically what I'm trying to say? Is this one of the fundamentals of the religion, so that the religion is not complete until we all say what you say that the Quran is created? So of course, I haven't been able to add, if he says no reason why you imprisoning and torturing and killing people over this. So he

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had to say, yes, it says, Yes, it is. wajib.

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So, a shuffle adame, he says, inform me of the Messenger of Allah, Allah Horus, Allah. When Allah sent him, did he conceal anything from that which was which he was commanded with? And he did the parcel and hide anything from us. So I've never said no. He said, Did the Messenger of Allah sallallahu Sallam called people to what you're saying that Ron is created?

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So he

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was stumped. He couldn't answer. And he just stayed quiet. Because everyone in the room knows there is not a single Hadith or any companion who ever said that the Koran is created. So he's saying you just said President did not conceal anything. He taught everything Allah commanded him. And then you said this is from the fundamentals of the religion that you know you will not have Islam without saying this the Quran is created. And the problem didn't conceal anything. Did he ever call people to what you're saying that the Quran is created? Everybody knows the answer is no. So he just remained quiet. So shall add Rami Rahim Allah, he turns to the halifa and wafak. And he said, Yeah,

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ameerul momineen wa Haider. He turns to the halifa. And he says, Oh, ameerul momineen one. What does that mean? one zero.

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That's the score. One zero, he's remained quiet he can answer. So then at one

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wider one, your correct look, you got one point. So a chef ladra Mira Han Allah, He said to have been able to add, inform me of a law so genuine, he said, A Leone, a Kemal Tula. Come Dino come today. I have completed your religion for you. Was Allah The one who spoke the truth about its completion? And it was Allah being truthful that it was completed that day, or were you truthful

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about it being incomplete. So that we have to say what you said. You understand, until this verse was revealed when this verse was revealed, Allah said your religion has been complete. That means you have learned everything that a law wanted you to know and learn about your religion is been revealed and sent down and it's done. He said, it was a lot of being truthful in this verse, meaning hypothetical is asking him, was it this verse, the truth that the religion is complete? Or are you truthful, that it's incomplete? Because there's still the issue of the Quran that was never mentioned before.

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So basically, even odd was quiet. So the chef, then he said, If Nutan to and even if you do add, was overwhelmed can answer and was upset.

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Now, if Nutan Yes, to the score is to zero. So then the chef melodrama Rahim, Allah He said, informed me of this saying of yours, meaning that the Quran is created. Did the Messenger of Allah sallallahu Sallam know about it? Or was he ignorant of it? Did the proselyte know the Quran was created? Or was he ignorant of this issue? So I've never said yes, he knew it. So the chef said, so did the messenger sallallahu Sallam then call people to it? Yeah, he knew this information Did he ever call people to believe that the Quran was created? Did he ever mentioned this? So Abby to add was quiet.

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So the shekel Rami Rahim Allah He looks at the halifa and says, yo amirul momineen. Salah

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and the Warthog says, Salah, three zero. Then the chef Rami Rahim. Allah says, This is what you claim are sort of I've been in Abu Dhabi. Did Abu Bakr and Omar and Othman and Ollie know of it? Or did they not know of it? Did they know about the creation of the Quran that it was created? Or did they not know? So

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it says they didn't know it. So the chef tells him so you know what the rightly guided qualified, didn't know. So he stayed quiet. So then he says, No, no, I made a mistake. They knew about it. I mean,

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they knew about it. So the chef then says, either way, he's gonna get trapped here, the chef says, so if they knew it, why didn't they call people to it as you have enforced them upon it, as you have? They knew it. Why didn't they do what you're doing right now? So he remained, he remained quiet. So he tells him, lm Yasaka Yasaka. My was your home? Lm Yasaka was your home? Didn't what suffice them suffice you, meaning it suffice to them? They knew it, and it suffice them to keep it to themselves. So the same thing that was enough for them, Isn't it enough for you to keep it to yourself over and he knew it, and it was in this device that it's the first time they just keep it

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to themselves does not suffice you.

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that to add completely quiet? So then the chef, a drama Rahim, Allah, he turned to Allah halifa. And he said, Yeah, I mean, I have presented my arguments and admitted nobody falls short of debating. Then he said, Yeah, I mean, if it does not suffice you to keep to yourself this belief, as this man has alleged that the Messenger of Allah sallallahu, wasallam and abubaker Andromeda and the earth man and Ali were sufficed with and they were able to keep it to themselves, and they were content with keeping it to themselves, then May Allah not suffice you with anything?

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Did not what suffice them suffice you. And he telling is telling him, what was enough for them to keep it to themselves is not enough for you.

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So Allah worth was shocked.

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He remained quiet. And he answered, Yes, that is, that's how it is.

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Release the shackles of the ship.

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So when they saw he's, he now realized this, this is the truth. And he said, release the shackles of the chef. So when they did so the chef, a Grammy Rahim Allah, He jumped at the chains and he took them pick them up and took them with him. So Allah was shocked. He said, Why did you take the change after we broke them? So he told him, I have intended to leave it in my will, that if I die, that he places it between me and the shroud that they place it. So in my world in my world, when I die, they put between me and me, meaning they shroud with me between me and my shroud, the chains, they shroud them with me so that I'm

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complain against this oppressor in every urge in front of Allah saying, Oh my Lord, why did he chained me up and frighten my family

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and the great shift drum, he started to cry and cried because of him and the people that were there cried.

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So unwerth tells him

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in a journey, he helped me and make me in the holidays, and I forgive me basically make everything I did to halaal by pardoning me, and forgiving me, and he ordered to give him 400 D knots, and shaligram era hemolysis I don't need it. And so he ordered him to be returned back to his region, in honor and being you know, being dignified and honored.

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of the people who were witnesses to this debate, was Elmo, Teddy, and Teddy is the son of allopathic, the halifa. He was, he was young, and he was witnessing this debate. And he himself he narrates, he says, I changed my mind about the creation of the Koran. And I think that unwerth duck also denounced it on that day. So his son is saying, I was present because he's to believe in the Christian and the Quran is the son of the halifa. He says, When I heard the arguments of a shekel under me, I changed my mind to the Quran. I said, it's not created the speech of Allah. And I think my father also changed his mind on that day.

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And mortality, the son of a worthless, the boy here who witnessed this, he says, then what happened right after that when they released the shackles of the sheriff and they let him go, then my father entered the house and lay on his back and kept repeating the saying of the share

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was zero comma zero, comma zero comma zero. Can you just see that? Can you see him just going into his room, just laying down and just kept repeating it? Didn't want suffice them suffice? You wasn't enough that they kept it to themselves, you couldn't do the same thing. And he did. And then

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he his son, continues saying, and he did not put to trial anyone after that. He never tested anyone after that. That means this great chef. And Rami Rahim Allah, he actually was the the main purpose here for the ending the fitna of the creation of the Quran.

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Can you believe it started in 220 212, after the hijra, and ended 232 after the hinge? Can you imagine two decades 20 years of this issue that no one has ever heard before. And there's not a single shred of evidence for it in the Quran, nor in the Sunnah, nor in the statements of the companions, or in the statements of any of the righteous scholars from atterbury. But 20 years of this fitna,

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and prisons instead of being filled with criminals are filled with the scholars of Hadith in the Quran, over some issue like this.

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it to the point that it's so it's such a ridiculous issue that it became like a laughing matter, like a laughing matter during the reign of a wife, who ended the fitna

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a man by the name of Roberto who was like, just like a joker like a funny guy who would come and spend time with a halifa and make him laugh and stuff like that. It wasn't a gesture, but he had a sense of humor. So one day he comes into the court, yard of worth, or the Kings court of life basically. And he tells him

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as the camera Mini, so basically like someone died, he tells him of the Mullah jack. So at what he says who died, he tells him the Quran died. So what I've told him

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as the Quran dies and that's what you guys were saying that the Quran was created and everything that's created has an end. So the Quran died, how and then he says this, how are people going to pray to Allah now with the Quran dead and so that was awesome. Okay, Okay, that's enough. Yeah, he knows the man likes to joke and everything, but it became an issue that now in hindsight to see how ridiculous it was that was like a joke.

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But it's there's some scholars said we still don't know if he died with a different, like Akita or not because he never proclaimed that.

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But the the oma remained in this state until I died in 232, after the hijra, in that same year that people pledged to Almodovar kill you see here.

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Okay, it's been almost an hour. So the peoples pledged to the hollyford. The next Khalifa Al mutawa kill and people were very optimistic about him because he loved this one.

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He loved the people of the sun. And he loved knowledge. And the basically and will Tolkien wrote a letter saying, now this is official now from the government, he's saying, Do not let anyone say that the Quran is created. So this was his official stance from the beginning. But not anyone say that the Quran is created hamdulillah. So he was in the eyes of the scholars and the people. He was raised in rank, and he was respected now, because from the beginning, he said this, we're not going to have this nonsense. We're not going back to this to this crazy ideology again. And so he gained a lot of support from the the people of the sooner.

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Mama sutera mo law says they gave him the pledge in 232, after the hijra in the ledger. And

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basically, in the first two years, he established himself and after that he summoned So basically, in the first two years, he's busy with, you know, the affairs of taking over this new Empire and all that. But then, after the second year in his suit, he says in the year 234, after the hegira he summoned all the shoe to his city, and honored them and asked

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them to teach the hadith of Allah subhanaw taala as attributes and that Allah will be seen on the Day of Judgment, this just as Israel described in the Quran. Then he turned to the Jamia and almost destroyed them all by the year 237. After the hedger remember, he came into power to 32 years he was busy to 34 he honors all this, the scholars tells them to teach names and attributes of Allah, and then by 237 is almost done with all mean that he turns to the gym he destroys their leaders.

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In 237, after the hijra, the judge Mohammed bin Abbey layth, who was a judge in the city, he was taken because he was one of the people from the amongst the Jeremy one of their leaders. So he was taken, and they shaved his beard. What does that mean? They shaved his beard. So back then, it was the huge sign of dishonouring someone to shave their beard, have them coming looking like a young boy and stuff. So they dishonor them, they shaved his beard. They had him beaten, and they had him taken around on a donkey, which is also something they will do. Like if someone let's say is dishonest in dealing, the judge would order that he'll be put on the back of a donkey and taken

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around the market and someone would announce don't deal with this man who's dishonest things like that. So it's taken around on the donkey. He was one of the leaders of Jamia. So we're seeing a lot of good things during the rain. of alworth appear now sorry and we're talking then, after a while he wrote to his house, Ebrahim. This is a moto kin he sent now to accompany Brian remembers accompany Brahim. So he tells him, send me a Hammad number. So it's hard for him as a limited number to come to him. And now he honored him greatly in because he knows the halifa is going to treat him well. So he starts to treat him well. You know,

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what a change. Hmm. So

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as one person commented the other day, that some people they're just upon whatever is the the ruler is upon even religiously they switch based on who is the ruler

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and I'm at now is 86 years old. So he sat next to is Hakuna, Ebrahim

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and it's awkward. No Brahim says to him, the Koran. What do you say about it? So Mr. Mohamad, he says, this question of yours. Is it seeking trouble? or seeking the truth? And it's how Kevin Abraham says, seeking the truth. He says, well, so low is the shot just trying to seek guidance here. Then Mr. Mohammed tells him it is a speech of a law revealed, not created and is hackable. Abraham says, I believe in what you say meaning I say what you're saying we're in agreement. So he prepared him in a caravan headed to the halifa is going to send them to the halifa now, and he went ahead of him to greet him when he gets to see is also another sign of respect. So I'm going to send

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you from this city to that city. So I'm going to send you off and I'm going to get there before you so I can be there to receive you look at the respect he's getting now from his Hakuna Brahim, the man who had him imprisoned or part of that, you know imprisonment. So on the way the caravan passed by Mohammed in his heart, the son of his hockman Abraham.

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And so a mama didn't greet this man, Mohammed in his heart. He didn't greet him because of his position during the time of the fitting of the Christian and the Koran. So he got upset.

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And he told his father, his father got upset, told the halifa. So the halifa got upset.

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So he says send, sent back to him, but I don't want to see him. How could he or because he upset his heart and his son, I don't want to see him. So this started to ruin the relationship between them.

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Another thing that occurred that people have been, again, those people who are, excuse me, who hated him, and they were defeated by Mr. Muhammad, and one of them by His name is Bill, he

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told the halifa that one of our little bait is hiding in the house of Imam Muhammad. Now,

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the above acids when they first came into power, the people see the image treated as bait the from the family of the seller, they treat them really badly. And when the ambassador overthrew them, they got a lot of support, even from a lot of great scholars in Imam, Abu hanifa Rahim Allah specifically was very vocal in his support for an ambassador, because they believe that they're being the descendants of Al Abbas from the family of the pasilla. There will be extra nice to debate but they were extra severe with a little bit. And that's why immediately the masses, and the scholars hated that busted xeno quite quite a lot. And

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and that's why they also alphabet made a lot of attempts to overthrow them. And there were many of those that were known during the time of the llama.

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Mala. There was the famous revolt of Muhammad Yunus is the key and many others. Anyways, the point is that

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ignoble he

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told the halifa that one of a hidden bait is high. So I hope I was clear. So now there is a lot of animosity between the bastards and I will bait so if you have one of our little bait, and who wants to take power, if you have them in your home, or what have you, or if you pledge to one of them, that means you're against the government. So he, he says, tells the halifa that one of our little bait is hiding in the house of Imam Ahmed. And that he pledged to him in secret. So they raided his home, this surrounded his house from every angle, even the roof that came from the roof from the sides from behind from the front. And they found him with his children. And they explained that they

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were looking for this man for debate. And he says, I have no knowledge of this man, nor any interest. Nor is it my intention. I see. I believe in the obedience to the middle men in in secret and openly. And I make the offer him during the night and day.

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they basically search the home, they even searches library, even the rooms of the women folks, they searched that. And when they were sure of his innocence, they sent a message to the hollyford moto kin. And he immediately smart he figured out that the people of the bidda they wanted to ruin the relationship between him and him. And that's why they did it. So he sent

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a letter to him and the letter still preserved delic word for word. He sent a letter to Ahmed explaining what happened. And he's thanking Allah that they weren't able to drive a wedge between them and so on and so forth. And then he brought ignoble fee. And who the one who initially made this lie or this allegation, and he says

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it brings him up or tells him I'm Mohammed Abdullah, this is the one who told me of the lie about you. So command what you will

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want me to strike his neck or strike his neck imprison him while in prison with him or weapon? What is mmm and so now you know his personality, you know, his biography? What do you think remember when what was him did to him all that beating and everything. While he was under house arrest. There was the famous incident which I was hoping to get into today. But basically in a region that was taken over by the like the like the Byzantines and Romans, they took over this area known as I'm Maria. And this woman Muslim woman was mistreated. So she yells out wormer after Sema, and, and the ruler then makes fun of her. Awesome. How's he gonna hear you? It's not gonna do anything for you. So this

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news of this one woman crying out Walmart aseema reached an AutoSum and he sent an army and he came and he dis decimated them and he freed on Maria and he specifically honored this woman who called out to him. I mean, it's such an act of and it's a weird thing about a moto simian as deviant in this angle, but you know,

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Also some good in others not like a complete wicked person that we're talking about. When Mr. Mohammed heard of that it is a mom. I mean this Salif halifa. Amir here, mobilizing an entire army and just responding to the cry of one and this and this was what breaks our hearts today. Now millions are crying and nothing is happening. But even despite his deviance and all that he would respond to this one cry. So when Mr. Mohammed heard that, he said, Who are the Hilton men Bobby gagne, I forgive him for everything he did to me, because of what he did for Maria, what a great and, and gallant act. So when they brought igneel belfie and they told him, this is above the law.

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This is the one who told me that lie about you. So command, what you will Imam Ahmed forgive him and then he said something beautiful. He forgive him. He said, perhaps he has young children who would be saddened by his death.

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Honey is so beautiful. It's not just I just kill whoever you want to kill you kill him, you break his wife's heart, new breakthrough children, his children's hearts and they grew up with orphans and without a father and they will miss their father for the rest of their life said perhaps he has young children who would be saddened by his death. So and he sends the data then

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sends a question

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not to test but out of to benefit to Mr. Mohammed, what do you say of the Quran? And Imam Muhammad wrote back a clarification with a hadith and sayings of the companions showing that the Quran is the speech of Allah so basically wanted to give him that opportunity to teach. We're going to stop here in sha Allah. And I think sadly enough, next Thursday will be the last one on Imam Ahmed the life of Muhammad. There's still some there's still some unfinished business and a little bit of what happened between him and mutawa kill. But in these incidents, you will also get more of an understanding of his personality and his water and his suburb.

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Anyways, I hope you enjoyed and benefited from that document and for tuning in for listening. So aloha mobarak Anambra Medina. alameen wa ala alihi wa sahbihi wa salam aleikum wa rahmatullah wa barakato.

Reign of Al-Wathiq & End of Fitna

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