Kamal El-Mekki – How To Give Shahada In 10 Minutes 1 Of 8
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First of all, that's not my email address. So those of you that are down?
If you do get responses, it wasn't me.
But let me just let me find out first, how many people have heard the workshop already? How to shop in 10 minutes.
Everybody can't see that.
Okay, that's not too bad, but 13 people in the room, that's good. Now, I don't really intend on actually giving the exact same workshop that I've been given for the last four years, because I'm standing have an important event coming up. And we want to make it a little bit more hands on. And we want to do a little bit more of exercises in the class. So that when next week comes around, the week after you're ready, and you're effective when it comes to your
hope, who in the audience will be from amongst the data will stand at the data tables at various times?
Okay.
All right. Let me start by saying this, today, we're going to go, this has to be here, I really want this
I want us to have a lot of fun to it. Because that really is fun. You know, it's not too serious. There's a lot of room for jokes, and a lot of room for opinions in many different ways you can do it. So everyone can relax. And we're going to have to be with each other for the next two days in Java. So let's lose enjoy this very much. Now, let's start before
we want to say something. Yeah, a couple of things. First of all,
there are no hard and fast rules in that one. There isn't just one way to do anything. And there is no magic wand.
And I have to say that because a lot of times people expect the magic wand and they think I have a number of magic wands. So those of you who like to pull me aside during the break, and you want an insight tip. And I might just say, Look, I don't give this to everybody is a magic wand for you. There are not okay. And there are many different rules and many different ways you can tackle one problem, there's so many different ways I can speak to one individual. So because of that, I would like to invite you to feel free to take and leave from whatever I say today. And tomorrow. You don't like anything I say just leave it it's not a problem. If you'd like something that I say, take it
and apply.
I've been doing this for about four or five years giving this workshop. And there are people that two types of people that come to the workshop, the one group that wants to feel good that they did something Islamic for the week that they sat at some kind of Islamic event. And they make themselves feel good by doing that they go home and that's it. There's another group that will attend and then they'll just gonna try the some of these techniques. You'll just try them, right. These are the people that I get emails from from around the world. And there's so many emails that I get from people who heard the workshop just online, not even necessarily those who attended. But from those
who attended. There was a 15 year old that attended, and the next day, went to school spoke to his best friend, his best friend became Muslim, and according to his words, and he's better than some Muslims that I know some born Muslims that I know, there is there's some revert American living in Saudi Arabia who heard the workshop online, started getting some data to the Minister, the foreigners there and this was three years ago or four years ago had about 53 people that came into snom. There's another guy who sent me an email from the United Kingdom. And he was listening to the workshop online. It's like five parts. He heard two and a half and he paused it to go get dinner. He
said on the way, he met someone who
said that
metal non Muslim, he said I use something from the workshop. He said something back that that was expected that you mentioned in the workshop, and I said something back from the workshop to him. And the guy took a shot he became Muslim. So he only heard half of the material. What happens when you hear the other half? So of course what happened here is
every 10 minutes right now, this is just the title and I wonder sometimes if people who get really offended and upset at the title, sometimes it happens. What are you talking about in a minute
guarantees is the title of a workshop. We're not saying that if you can tolerate me today and tomorrow, everybody who stopped and talked to for 10 minutes, they can become Muslim. And then if you don't become Muslim, you spoke to them for nine minutes and 50 seconds.
So the truth is, it's not a guarantee, it's just a title. And but also at the same time people becomes them, you know, sometimes without you saying anything. And I was telling the story of the guy that I gave a pamphlet to. And basically, he said, What do I do now? For what? To become Muslim. So it can be that I'm bad, good.
Otherwise, I just rent a small airplane and throw pamphlets off city. But what happened was that he was already searching for the truth. You know, I don't know what happened in this guy's life. And maybe he's been reading the Koran for the last three months, and talking to people and talking to his friend and his uncle's Muslim, and so on, and so forth. And then he's walking somewhere. And I gave him a path. And he said, You know, that's it. That's a sign for me, I'm going to become. So all I did was just one part.
So, but it is true, there are many people who have taken the workshop, they got lunch, as I always mentioned, this young man in Canada here, heard the workshop online. I've never met him before. So he wanted to start a dowel group. And he brought, let's say, about 160 people to Islam, and but he retained 95% of them. Now, you will hear me talking about these being effective and being successful as a die. I differentiate between the two effective is just the person who is able to get people to take Shahada at that moment. But the successful one, those shadows, you start to pray, the memories are far too high, the amount of hate and they become a part of the community. That's a successful
diet. And I'm hoping that you don't just become effective that after these two days that you become successful.
Because I don't want us to get caught up in the headcount. And many, many people are many famous speakers also are caught up in the head cup. All they do they count how many charges and some have incredible numbers. And I wonder how they keep count like that. They'll tell you I brought into snon you know, 1364 people?
What do you what have you tapped to every time someone who could become
How do you know that? You know, and how do you know that the remained what is the percentage of is 1000 that remained upon us now? Most likely, it's a really small percentage, probably not even in I would love that it's one or 2% remain upon us.
I don't want you to get caught up in headcounts. And you know, after Muslim Awareness Week, everyone's trying to boast how many shadows they got, and I got 400. That's it. Six.
But it's happened. So many times, so many people caught
up Did I tell you what, I heard maybe the worst, the worst, the most low quality I've ever seen. This guy, probably some homeless guy in Washington DC, asked this young man, do you have a dog? So the guy said, Sure. Do you know anything about Islam? Do you already see the equation that's happening now? You see that? I have to bear and withstand you talk about Islam, I get a daughter in the end. That's it. That's the equation already. So he started talking about Islam. The guy's not paying attention. He's looking all over the place. He's just not paying attention. And as you start with, make sure you're paying attention, Are you with me? And you pause, check. Don't just keep
talking. Don't just spill something that you've memorized the script that you've memorized. And so this person in the end,
she says, Are you ready to become Muslims? Yeah.
That's all they want to know. Okay, say after me. I shall do the guy says the Shahada. Then he, he wants to hug him and everything. He says look, okay, you have the dollar.
says that. Yeah. Thanks. Wait a minute. Hold on,
scrub when you found them.
The brother just want to get that chat. He could the guy wasn't listening wasn't paying attention. We're the ones who stole it. But today I wanted the headcount. So at the end of the day, two shadows to
three.
So and I'll spare you all the other examples, okay. Anyways,
so you don't have to believe everything that I told you today, or tomorrow. But I would like the test between me and you is that you go out and you try these techniques. And you might try one technique on one person that won't work. So that kind of have to solve.
It's not a magic wand. Remember, you try another technique or you try the same technique on a different person and it might work in the end. So there's no there's no guarantees here.
What else do I want to say before we begin
Where do I point out?
anyway?
What else do I need to start with?
I'm not sure I get all the points here. Yeah.
Feel free to disagree with me. You know, a lot of times people think, Well, you know, he came all the way from the States and is our guest, and let's show him some Calgary hospitality or whatever it is, feel free to disagree. Anytime I really welcome it. Most people don't like you to disagree with him. But I would like that, you put your hand up and say, I disagree with you. And I don't really like you anyways.
But you're gonna do that one of two things. One, you better have some kind of evidence,
or some kind of collective years of experience, not just one thing. I'm saying collective. I'm not saying you have to be a dog die for 10 years in order to disagree with me. Now, what I'm saying is, you might say, well, over the years, we have noticed this, or I've spoken to a lot of DoD and they have all said that. Now I'll tell you why I say that one time, I invited people to feel free to disagree, despite disagreeing with me on one of the only two points that I absolutely insist upon. And in the end, that is where you're getting this from, he said,
I'm guessing.
So I'm giving you years of collective drama, who's experienced the same thing. And we it's been proven and tested. Do you tell me you're just guessing, so don't disagree with me based on a hunch, but feel free to disagree based on whatever evidence you have whatever kind of study you have, it doesn't have to be the study done by Muslims. It can be even, you know, psychologists, x, that's fine. Feel free to disagree. Okay. So I welcome that. Anytime. And I know in every community, there's that guy.
There's that guy that disagrees with everything. Every
Good morning, it's actually 1201. It's afternoon.
argue whatever it
is, that's a joke. Now, they'll tell you there was this guy. And he used to they were talking about this guy who's four people sitting together, said the brother zone so argues about every everything, you cannot sit with him for 10 minutes, without him arguing with you. So one of the people that the gathering So yeah, I guarantee you I can go sit with him for half an hour. And I'll never argue with him. They said No way. No matter what you do, no matter what you say, he's gonna find a way to argue with you. I bet you I could go and sit with him for half an hour. And we can never get into an argument. They said, Okay, go ahead and do. So then he goes to the guy's house. He knocks on the
door. argumentative guy says Who is it? He says it's me. He said, No, it's not.
Catch people dozing off. I'll tell you a few jokes. A lot of good jokes, right? Okay. It's probably time to get started, I think.
But I just didn't want anyone to get to two things, I don't want you to get the wrong idea. I want you to think you'll be getting a magic wand, that's number one, or that everyone would become Muslim, if they spent 10 minutes with you. Number two, I don't want you to think that everything I mean that.
That, yeah, that you're going to be wasting two days of your life, that a lot of people have become very successful died from attending this exact same workshop. And I think we're gonna up it up a little bit this time and do a little bit more training back and forth, so that you can be more ready for your Islamic Awareness Week. And,
you know, I've got I've got another workshop, it's called dowel cards a bit longer. And, and they will discuss, you know, because you have the truth, the truth is really, really strong. Truth is really powerful. So, no matter who it is that approaches you, they're not upon the truth. That's one thing that's a given for sure. And you're the one who's upon the truth, right? So when you're upon the truth, it doesn't matter who's coming at you, you know that you have the upper hand.
And, and that's why you might, some people might think, well, this technique is miraculous, I used it to work like like a charm. It's not, it's the fact that you have the truth. And the truth is so powerful, and destroys the false hood. As a last as I mentioned in the Quran, but not a button.
And we throw the truth against the falsehood. It largely describes the word model, which means doesn't just put a dent on it or a hairline fracture, but it hits it so hard, that the inside can be shown can be seen that the demand shows up. So the truth destroys the false. There is the we're gonna discuss the ABS a lot of people are so worried about the hurricane how it convinced us and they in atheist thinks that they're the ones that are that's rational and scientific, because they don't believe in something they haven't seen or heard or touched. So they're rational, but that's not the case. Actually.
As you will see, inshallah, you know, those who believe in polytheism. You know, I've got in the course notes, just one like one page basically on polytheism. So I was in South Africa. And the guy said to me that, you know, after we took the course, we went home, and I watched my older brother with my own eyes, he picked up the phone, and called his Hindu friend since childhood. And he basically went through the page, from the notes, just going through the arguments through that one page on in the not in these notes. So that's another chord.
But as he said about the page, his friend became Muslim. So I'm sure enough about the story. It is out to Australia, I'm telling them to look at South African brothers, they're doing better than you guys, you know, trying to encourage them. So I'm telling the same story, the guy said, well, the exact same thing happened to me, I opened up that page on polytheism called a bamboo friend, by the end of the week, I became Muslim. Now, you might think, Oh, I gotta get my hands on these notes. Oh, wow, this is gonna be great. No, it's actually just that the truth is very strong. That's it. No magic, no genius. The truth is very powerful. We're gonna look at ways of destroying Trinity or
talking about Trinity without getting into a new chapter, this verse that just easy, quick and easy ways, you know, just using these concepts. Alright, let's get started. I one thing that's very important,
that,
that I want you to understand the two types of guidance. And it's so important for God to understand. Because once you understand these two,
nothing can come in your way so important not to be coming your way once you understand this joke. By the way, I am aware of how ridiculous my outfit looks, with the sneakers and everything. I don't think that I don't know. I do know, but it's gonna be standing. So
it's so important for you to know this because when you notice what we're going to talk about, now, nothing can come in your way. There's nobody that you can give value to that doesn't matter. So, contemplate these verses in the Quran, Allah, the Prophet sallallahu Sallam
Valentina lahave Misha, verily, not guide those whom you love. But the love guides. Remember, he was then in another verse, a lot of years of the process. And now we're in the era so often stopping and very early, you got to the straight path.
So I don't understand these two verses, one says, You don't go
the other versus you do go?
And the answer is that is that there are two types of guidance or disclosure of said, you'll see that in the chat or
in that field, if
that's your job is when you show someone what the truth is, which is what you do as a die. You tell people, this is the truth, that's false. This is the evidence I have. That's it. That's your job. The rest is up to Allah. And Allah opens that person's heart to Islam. So if you understand that your job is just to direct someone to the truth, the rest is up to Allah, who can stop me from doing anything, and could stop you from talking to me. So anytime I see someone who has like piercings, and tattoos in his eyeball, and, and piercings all over the place, and purple hair, so don't give that a doubt. People will be will always say, looks difficult. Alright, let's think about this.
What's difficult, we have my job, which is to talk about the truth, the truth or directly to the truth. And that's easy. And then no one would dare say the second part is difficult. So who can stop you
make it as clear as possible, wipe away and clear away as many misconceptions as possible. And then that's it. That's your job. The rest is up to all of us.
So I don't care who it is, you can talk to that person. As long as you can, that you have a language you can communicate, that's enough to talk about us now. And of course, as the day you know, you you're going to find out what the problem is find out a little bit about from all these techniques, we're coming to inshallah and then the rest is it doesn't work. It doesn't work.
And try again, another time and date. It's not a problem.
Any people here are afraid of rejection don't like to hear no. conference room says no. Thank you. You feel bad. Anyway. Yeah. It's not a good thing, right? When you hand someone a pamphlet, and they just say No, thank you. They walk away.
What?
Some lady she was walking by. And I was asking where's the purpose of life ma'am? And she took the pamphlet from me like that. It was a trashcan right next to her. She was walking really quick, very smooth this woman. So she took me like that. And she said to find Jesus do it right and try to get one didn't even stop. Her pace didn't even slow down. What's the purpose of life match for me to find Jesus and check it in the trash can walk
in
I didn't know what to do. I never experienced anything like that I was just
walking with a friend said she comes back, say, hey, by the way, I found him four years ago.
Okay, so don't be you know, you're gonna be you might encounter people. And they might tell you rudely the
way or whatever it is. I don't know how rude people are here. I would think that we imagined us that everyone in Canada is so much sweeter. A true. No, it's too bad. Okay. Well, maybe because there's more violence in the US. That's why. Because when I was in Toronto, I heard the brothers would get spit out 15 times a month, and they're given our table industry. And in 15 years and never heard of a dye being spit out in the US, maybe because we're crazy. Shelby Switzer, you can expect that he will get shot, stabbed, murdered
in a plastic bag and frozen.
So maybe because we're crazy people don't do things like that in public. And maybe because people are calm here. Maybe they can push it a little, I don't know. But the point is, when someone refuses to accept your pamphlet, you just spank them, don't have a nice day and keep going.
We're coming to that. But I want you to understand this, your job is just to direct someone, it becomes 100 that they don't, that's fine. And you keep moving on, there are more people to talk to, and you just keep going on and on. But you know, when you want to study something, you want to do something you look at what obstacles might come in your path, some of the obstacles here.
You know, which let me just see if any of these might apply to you. We're talking about obstacles, what is what will stop me from going out and giving some doubt what will stop me from going out and being an active and effective data? Any of these apply to perhaps
you have to say which one but yeah, and you know, maybe some of you number four, you're a bit shy,
a little bit too shy, so I can't really go out there. stand in the middle of that. We call that room where you have all the action happening. North Korea, North Korea, North Korea, Korea courtyard, so so you know, I can't just stand there, people are rushing off to class and I'm trying to shove Pampers in their face? who's trying to do that? Maybe that's your problem. Maybe you feel that knowledge to give down. Now, what if the non Muslim stops me and says listen, I want to know what the Forum has asked to say on this flip issue.
calm.
So these are some of the problems. One, a lot of people expect instant results. And I want to tell you this, that when you're giving you're calling your your classmates, roommates, you know, people's co workers to Islam, don't expect that they'll become Muslim immediately. There are a number of things. One, they could become Muslim, you know, within a short period of time, could be a couple of months, or what have you to maybe you spend a lot of time within the never becomes. But maybe you clear with so many misconceptions from their mind that they sympathize with Muslims. That's good for Muslims.
To understand true Islam, that's good for that. It's good. When lawmakers understand it true Islam politicians understand true Islam, and they don't believe everything in the media, that's a good investment, you're not wasting your time. On top of that, you're giving down the act of giving value and get rewarded for it. It's not about how many people become Muslim as a result of just the fact that you're standing and given value get rewarded for that. True or false. True. And that's why in many verses that we kind of skipped were allowed to visit Poland mum and dad in a law on your side nakada in nanny in slimming? Who is better in speech than the one who calls to a mob? Does the good
deeds, always the action calls, does the good deeds and says I'm from amongst the Muslims.
So you get the reward just for standing and giving that doubt. I mean, no, I didn't set up called these people for 950 years. And few of them believe you tell him didn't get much reward for the 950 course he did. So don't expect instant results. And you may say something to someone now and they will take it with them. And three years later, something will happen in their life. And they'll remember, you know, becomes we had one person. Again, I'm trying to stress this point. Don't expect instant results. We had one person in Virginia. And these when they would give him down he would just argue argue adamantly, then later on after he became Muslim, he told him that when I used to
argue with you, I was actually internally convinced with everything you said, but I just couldn't lose the argument.
So when they're giving him Dell, what do they see externally? He's not accepting the message, but internally he was so they could have given up because they were expecting instant results. I was joking, saying people don't expect to start talking to someone in the street. While they're talking. That person's beard starts to grow and grow.
and grow, and then he's already a Muslim doesn't happen like that is the one process that we'll have to go through about. The reality is all these things become Muslim like that.
And a lot of people think I like video, because I joke about it so much. I don't hate it. But I've got issues with it.
I'll explain it to you later when we talk about some other
analogy with your speech and
you know, not having enough knowledge you have everyone, if you look, we won't disagree. The more knowledge you have, the more effective you can get no doubt. I don't think anyone disagrees with that. But at the same time, you only need very basic knowledge of the religion in order to call someone to same situation or work with Ilan, when he became Muslim, he brought Islam six out of the 10 given battalions of paradise. So at that time, we were not many accounts or issues that were revealed, or even if that were revealed, but he took the level of truth that he knew and brought people to Islam, you can do the same thing. Now your best friend is a Dahlia, we don't know the
answer is to say.
That's it? Who said because you're dying, and you have to have infinite knowledge. You don't know the answer to say, I don't know, the greatest and easiest thing for you your best friend. I don't know. So next time someone asks you, who's your best friend say? No?
Who do you like?
instead? Face people get used to it. I don't know. It's good. It's easy, makes your life easier. And it keeps you humble as well. Don't try to wing it. Okay, be like george bush, right? wing it, you make yourself sound worse, or you get yourself in trouble. Don't. But you know what I know, I'm saying it's but a lot of times young men, they just can't say we had a young brother. And he doesn't know the answer. Or someone says I want to ask the chef the questions asked me, let me try it.
What is it an exercise you're going to try? Let me try it again or something? No, we can try. And then you might give me you know, a wrong statement. And then that person will take it with them and then act upon it. So get used to saying I don't really, really good. You know, one of the things I had one of the great scholars, and they say that when someone was young man would come to him. And he would tell him Howdy, howdy, the chef memorizes since he was six years old, and he knew that I've seen and he taught it so many times, multiple times. And he taught it and
they said they would sit and just humbly say like he never heard it before.
administering the body. It's as if he never heard it before. You know? Now how do we do it? Now when someone's telling you how deep and you know?
It's like when someone wants to tell you a joke. You hear the one about the you know, the Muslim walked into an airport said, Hey, I heard that. Someone's trying to tell you a funny thing you know, you
wouldn't want to sell them was worth one of the content. Yes, it wasn't either. This Hadith is narrated in a way at the end and before and in Muslim there is no integration there as well. But it has so and so on in the chain. So therefore it sweet. God.
I know what you're talking about. humble, humble people humbled. I don't know.
Okay, a lot of people feel they need done. And I'm sure all of us in this room feel you know, I would like to get some doubt I would like to increase my Eman to this level or my knowledge to that level. But the truth is, we can go and give down weight increases.
You know, it was addictive in our school. In the good old days, there were so many people who just came down when it was done with it, because they wanted to it's made them feel good to pass on some pamphlets and talk to people and make them feel good. So it's not like you wait for a man to increase before you go and give Dawa your demand increases as you give. So try that. And at the same time the scholars say if you wait for number two and three, you will wait your whole life to go to your grave. And they say if you ever wake up one day and number two and three are there 100% know that you've gone astray. Do you ever wake up on a monumental project? Knowledge is 100% I'm ready
now. Look how earlier I come. Look out world here coming you better because now you've gotten a strength.
Okay, number four. We spoke about that. You know what the cure is the number four?
No, cure for number four.
Anybody?
Yes, someone's shot. What do I do this guy? He What's that thing called courtyard?
courtyard. It's like when you first go into
like a cool swimming. Very, very nice analogy, sir. I like it. Very clever. So
called swimming pool when you jump in, in a few seconds. You're okay. That's it. You no matter how many years you've been giving that? Well, you always feel awkward in the beginning. Especially if you stopped
For a while, you're
not to start standing in front of people yelling things out of trying to get them to stop eye contact things that it's not me to do these things. But you know what you call the first cut? You call the second third. And that's it. You're used to it. Now. What about another solution for a shy person?
How could you help another person to help him stand there in the north courtyard, and pass out material and not be shy?
How can you encourage them?
Yes, sir.
Yeah.
Okay, so you're that good, okay. So try to be with brother with one on.
Get your confidence, boost and everything.
So, go go with someone, have a partner with you. You can be too inexperienced for people as partners, but they will encourage each other or one more experienced person, you go with them. And then
first time, second time, that's it, it gets better. And number five, one problem is a lot of people don't know who they're talking to. They assume they just keep going through their script, you tailor your talk based on the individual, all right? Because the way they told you right now that there's someone out there who needs he or she is just a person out there that needs can you prepare your script here and go out and read it to them? Who can do that. Because if you can do that, I want to hear you can sit down, I want to hear from you. That's incredible. No one can do that. Because what if you open that door and you go out? That person was a woman, for example. So you're in this is a
brother now going up? You're expecting to shake hands? You know, my name is so and so what's your name? You got its own? So it's a different story, you know? So
what are you going to do? So that means when you go out there and tailor that talk based on the individual? Tell me, is there a difference between speaking? And I'm going to give you a list of people telling me is it different and approaching them? Male or female? Different rabbi, or priest? Or atheist? Very different, old person or young person? Different? someone your age? also different, right? What about the environment where you're standing? What if it's like a busy street or cars, a lot of buses making noise? And you're trying to talk to yell over that? Does that make a difference? Yeah, what if you in the library have to be quiet? makes a difference. So your environment affects
your top, the person affects your top, the weather affects your top? Does the weather affect the top? Yes, yes, it does. It's if it's summer, and the butterflies are out and everything. And you can tell them what the beauty of this religion, therefore you can even use big words. But when it's cold, good. So
everything, everything affects you talk, everything affects your talk. So because there are so many different scenarios, and situations and people and belief systems, that there has to be malleable, bendable, flexible, like like metal, you know, you have to be malleable and to be flexible, you have to adjust to situations. And sometimes you're going down the path and you discover something about the person, you have to change a little bit. One time I was giving a talk to someone in the street, and he had a son with him. And it seemed like it was just like a father and son thing for them. The father wanted his son to be a man, maybe the kid was 10 or 11 years old. So every time I spoke to
the Father, because naturally I think he's a decision maker. The father was just mostly concerned about me addressing his son. So every fight, every time I'm talking to him, he will take he will say you are talking to us, right? He wanted me to acknowledge his son as a map. So now I'm going to talk to this guy. So okay, so basically, you know, then I look at him, I forget, again, it tells us you're talking to both of us, right? And then I look at the kid again. Now, in retrospect, I think I should have just tried to get the kids
to trust the gentleman's he's a grown man, what's your problem? But anyways, you might have to adjust midway, I'm going to spare you some of the storage.
But, you know, a lot of times, let me tell you why this workshop is usually six hours long. It's not it's not six hours long, because we're not learning entirely new techniques. Part of it is that we're unlearning the wrong way of giving down the wrong way of doing so many rules about Dawa, that just don't make any sense or they don't have any, any study or anything to back them up or proof for them. And so many ideas and notions here and there that we need to unlearn all these ways, and then also learn a few more new techniques.
There's so many things that
we have some kind of, we have sometimes rituals associated with taking the shadow. And like there was one time we're at this conference and then I made this point, and one of the speakers or he got up into the actually when I came
to take my shot two years ago, so that went in I told the Roosevelt
To become Muslim, so this little concern, please have a seat. Because the guy who gets your head is not here.
Instead, I sat down and I kept waiting for a long time until this guy who gives you this cane, who is he's got a good shot.
I mean, I really want to meet this guy, he's I'm certified sure how to give her an ID. He's got to think on this on this board certified my card if you'd like to make sure it's not expired yet. I say after me, who is this guy? She had to give it? No or no, you have to do it after July in front of the people who makes up all these rules. So okay, let's move on. Now. So we looked at the internal.
And by the internal, I mean, the problems you might have, that might stop you from being an effective diet. Now, we want to look at problems that you might encounter on the side of a prospect. Now, you do know that for these two days, when we talk about dogs, we're talking about novelty non Muslims, don't include them to Muslims, but we're specifically talking about everyone aware of that. Because sometimes, after I'm done, some guy comes in, tell us about
the agreement was how to get a Muslim already.
Right. So on the part of the metal, or let's call them the prospect, the one that you call it,
they also have some things that will stop them from becoming Muslim. One of the ones I want to focus on a little bit now is the first one.
And
the whole thing I said about
about why it takes six hours, because
as we unlearn, and we learn new techniques, it might be difficult for you to swallow some of these signs, or some of these points. And so I have to illustrate that a number of times using different stories, just to get the point across. So a lot of times people will look for a sign from a law that tells them this is the time to become Muslim. And a lot of times I will ask in the audience, the reverse to tell us how long it took them to became to become Muslim? And why did you finally decide to do it? Someone will say something like, Well, finally one of the Muslim friends said why don't you just become Muslim?
There was a guy who said I was doing stuff for three years waiting for something for a day when I should become Muslim. And then
I one of my friends just suddenly out of the blue called me up said why don't you just become some right now over the phone? So I became Muslim over the phone right then and there. So then I asked him, What would you have done? If your friend didn't call you and ask you for the shot? He said, I would still be studying Islam until now I still study.
So
a lot of times people look first time what do I mean by that? in a predominantly Christian society, there's a lot of emphasis on vision, or a clear sign from Allah. And you've probably seen this in their sitcoms and their cartoons and their movies. God give me a sign, Lord, you know, give me some sign. Tell me what to do. And you know, Paul of Tarsus, he became Christian when he was on the road to Damascus, he saw vision.
You know, Augustine, later on in St. Augustine,
Emperor Constantine, he saw a vision as well, you know, even the morals, the guy saw a vision of his visions and clear signs. But a lot of them give says in the Quran, His signs are subtle. And His signs are for those who contemplate and those who consider and that's why. So the story goes that we want to pray the Lord and Islamic center. And I saw as I'm walking in this, this Caucasian American man walking out with a bunch of books, and the whole staff of the of the center, they're walking up behind him, and they were waving him goodbye. All right. So what happened? He came to them. And he said, I'm interested in getting
more some reading material about Islam. Their job is to add is to fulfill that need. He said, I want to get more material, they said, Here's more material.
Okay. Now, what would you do here a little differently? Perhaps you would what
would you do differently?
Yes.
Okay, anything else? distributor, right?
Uh huh. Well, he read before what he wants, what he wants to read.
What he's looking for good. Is that what you were gonna say? Excellent. So it's not that you He says, I need reading material. I understand that you want reading material on Islam. That's exactly what I'm going to do. I'm giving you reading material on Islam. That's it. So come on, you want to you want to try to sell some more a little bit over here. Would you like fries with that? Would you like to supersize that? How come everyone else tries to sell you more to give you more food, just want to give the pound
You're in your comfort zone. You're not on my conscious now leave. So how come no one asked him anything? So basically, I asked him this question. I said,
you know, when I saw him, come on, I said, you know, what's happening? He said, Well, I've been interested in Islam in Islam for a while, and I came to get more reading material. Now, by the way, I'm looking for those of you who have not heard the workshop to respond to me more so than those who have. Okay. He said, I've been interested interested in Islam for a while and came to get more reading material.
What would you ask now? There's no wrong question. By the way. I'm gonna tell you what I asked. That doesn't mean that's what it should have asked. There are many ways you can go about this. So what would you ask? I've been interested in STEM for a while, and I came to get more reading material. We want to find out.
What's stopping you.
Okay, good.
stopping to become Muslim. Everyone agree with that? Makes sense. What else?
What do you know about Islam? Okay. Yes?
Sorry.
Good, long is a while.
Let that very good question. And that's, and all the questions were good.
So, how long is a while? And that's the question I asked. Not that it's the best question, but maybe administrating this now for a while. for like four days. Maybe it's five years. Maybe it's two years. I want to know what this wild is. Because now I have two branches here. So he's asked, How long have you been interested in snap? He said for about a year.
Now, I know there's a problem. Immediately. Is there a problem? Why is there a problem? Because he hasn't accepted? has been interested for a year to become Muslim. Something must be stopping. Something must be stopping. What could it be? Possibly?
It could be anything. Okay. It could be away for a sign. Yeah. Anything else?
Come on. In one thing could be that he likes pork. He likes beard. Yeah. Family. What else?
Nobody's approached him. Yeah. What else? misconception? misconception There you go. It's possible, right? So you need to look your job is you like a doctor to diagnose. need to find the problem. always need to find the problem. Yeah.
Great. I'm happy something wrote that down. You're a doctor, you diagnose. You all get PhDs after tomorrow, we're done tomorrow.
So your look one more time. He said has been interested in Islam for a year he hasn't become Muslim, you can conclude there's a problem. You need to find out what the problem is. So give me some questions. You can ask this person.
What's stopping you? What's stopping you from becoming a Muslim? What else? That's right. You're right. No one's wrong. Yeah.
Okay, I said the guys who heard the workshop, you take it easy. Thank you, sister.
There's no wrong answer. the wrong question, whatever you want to ask.
I'm sorry, I can't hear you.
Then what
are you confused about? Okay, good. These are all good questions. There's no wrong answer. You could have said, I'll ask him. What's your name? That's a really quick. So my question is, then you use that name down. So I asked him Okay. What did you dislike about Islam? I don't want to know what he likes about Islam.
I don't want to know that because I don't care what he dislikes about a snap. I mean, you might tell me, you know, what, if I asked him What did you like about a snap? He'll say, I liked the five prayers. I like the five
solo
I like hedge I just got the cars nice electric. I don't have time for that. I want to know what did you dislike? What's stopping you? If you've been interested in Islam for a while? What's stopping you from becoming interested? Maybe there's a concept that he doesn't like, again, you're the doctor when you go to the doctor. And you say, you know I feel some dizziness in my head. Okay.
You nailed to the growing wealth. Okay, good. How's it good knee joints? Everything's good with
you hearing good things great about your stomach. He doesn't ask about what's good. He tries to find out what's wrong. So you asked about what's wrong. So then now let's follow the scenario now until now, we don't know what's happening with this guy. We're guessing. I don't know if it's assigned. I don't know if it's a misconception. I don't know if it's his wife. One accepted. Do you know?
No.
We don't know, right? We don't know. We're trying to find out. So our first question, what do you dislike about Islam? I want to get right to the heart of the matter. And his answer was, he thought about it sincerely. And he said nothing.
Now, what do you think might be the problem? So now we know it's not a misconception. It's not something with Islam that he doesn't like, What is it now? possibly keep guessing it's possible many other things could be his wife. Or it could be that he's looking for a son. So now he said, All right.
It's an unknown, I have only this hunch that he may be looking for a sign from Allah. So I'm going to test it. And if it's not, I'll go for you know, maybe it's family member or other influence. So I said, Okay.
You know, I think you're actually looking for a sign from Allah. Because, you know, I'm guessing he's Christian background, and most likely, who wants to sign and many times, you know, people who, before they become Muslim, they keep waiting for that day, when they just feel that this is the day to become Muslim. You know, everything is so romantic these days. I mean, it really is everything is romantic.
And that's not a bad thing. It's good, I think, right? But, so there's too much emphasis on you know, they want to wake up one day after Good Night night of sleep, and they go like this. And there's a robin singing on their window. So
the sun is out. And it's just everything is so dramatic. It's
perfectly to become Muslim. And I was talking about, it's not that romantic. It could be just some, you know, some email with a broken action is a little harsh, come after me.
A very difficult situation is nothing romantic about whatsoever. So I told him, look, I think you're actually looking for waiting for a sign from a lot to tell me you should become Muslim today. But let me tell you, and I told him, I said, Listen. And by the way, a disclaimer here. As I'm telling you the story, I become excited, as I'm telling you that story. But that's not how I talk to people. Because I'll tell you, I said this, but I don't speak to them like that. We speak very calmly. But I'm really excited now telling you the story. So you speak to people very calmly, very mature, and calm and sane.
So I was telling them look, scientists have a lot of very subtle, you don't expect a deep voice to tell you to become Muslim, or a beam of light to show up in a dark room or anything? Unless isn't it very early in this science in
the home in
our department? Yeah, pillow rolling these things are Signs for those who contemplate or those consider another verse, shorter route.
So if you contemplate the signs of a lie, you'll recognize the sign of a lie. If you consider you'll find out it's a sign it's not like neon signs, signs of a large sub. So in the sign ellipses in the Quran, these signs are subtle. You already got your son, what's your son? Can you tell us?
I told him you already got your son, someone who hasn't read the workshop? What are his sons?
Okay, so he's, you know, beat the fact that he's in the masjid has been reading about Islam, what else?
Possibly, I'm speaking 10 what else that he
does nothing that he dislikes about Islam. It's not a good sign. So I told him listen, and use those things to convince the person. So I said, Look, now, there's, there's so many people hate.
You've been interested in this stuff for about a year, how many people believe what they hear about stuff in the media and have so many issues? I asked you what did you dislike, you can't think of anything. That's your son. I love me do out of millions of people who hate this not someone who loves this religion for a full year you've been interested in it, you can't find anything wrong with it. That's your sign. So I and there was that simple people now because, you know, miraculously with we said a few sentences, we said in Charlotte, the right sentences after doing some kind of probing and questioning and and diagnose, diagnose diagnosis, you know, so basically, I think I told you, I
think you should become some right now. And you have the rest of your life to read these books and many other books, and you're gonna keep reading just like all of us until we go to our grave. So he actually just became right there in that. Now, how long was that talk?
It was sure you know what i was short. When you diagnose when you find the IP address the exact issue it becomes a short talk. The problem is many people they want to keep talking and talking and talking. And they want to throw scientific facts and they just want to throw things and hope something sticks fine. But that's not how you do. So
shall we shall we move on or one more example with the sign?
One more example. Thank you, sir. Thank you.
Little earlier, I need some coffee in here.
But
Okay, one more example.
This was a, this was a big convention, United States big bazaar room.
And they told me that there was a woman was interested in becoming Muslim.
So I went through this African American woman probably in her mid to late 40s. And it was Adrian. And she was standing in the middle of the bizarre room with 1000s and 1000s of Muslims. So I know the man I get there. I've been told it's a woman, but I don't know what his story is. Does she know anything about Islam? Or she knows zero votes? Is she? She atheists, Baptist to some other dynamic denomination? I don't have a clue. So I need to find out. So I came to her said, You know, I heard that you you're interested in assumption.
I said, How long? Have you been interested in snap? Does that make a difference? It's a big difference. She said three years. So now Where am I going? Where's your mind going? Now? Three years. Now, if you're thinking, go ahead. What's the problem? And it could be one of the many things sign could be misconception could be family members, isn't that? And in her case, first of all, she said that? No. So now I said, Do you know much about Islam? She said, Yeah, I've read some books about Islam.
So you believe that Allah is one? She said, Yes. We believe that the process alone was actually the Prophet of Allah. She said, Yes. The five pillars makes sense. Yes, I think we did a review of the five pillars, you can do that in 50 seconds. Fine. So now she has the ingredients of becoming a Muslim, right? So if someone has the ingredients of becoming Muslim, what's your next step?
Now, if they have all the ingredients of becoming Muslim, then you
make sense. They have all the ingredients of becoming a Muslim, you ask for the shot. If they're missing them. Don't ask for the Shahada. Maybe not. But she now five pillars of hate the pasilla. So I solution because
he said no. Now, I need to find out what the obstacle is. So one, she said that her fiance told her when you go to that Muslim convention, don't come back as a Muslim.
Now, how do you clear that?
How do you clear that? How do you fix that?
Well, I mean, in her way of thinking she went,
possibly. It's very possible. I mean, you could argue with me, you know, tell her that, you know, you're basically there. You just have to say it. What else?
Yes, sir.
I didn't quite get you that. I'm sorry.
But I think you're on the right track.
There you go. Very good. Yes, sir.
Okay, that's possible. Yes, sir.
Okay, that's possible. Yes, sir.
Okay, yes, sir. Nothing's wrong here. By the way. Yeah. Did you say? You never know when you're gonna die? Uh huh. And keep pushing, keep pushing that thought further.
Okay, very good. So now, what we're getting here to see is that, you know,
you're mining over the people. It's, it's Allah and His attorney and the Hellfire versus this guy. And that's basically what I told you. So we fix this problem very quickly actually said, Okay, listen, you on the Day of Judgment, everyone will stand in front of a lot by themselves alone will call you by name. And you will be held accountable for your deeds, and you will be held accountable for everything.
Just be held accountable. So you boyfriend and no on your wife or your fiance or your nor your family or father, nobody will stand and answer on your behalf. So you're responsible for your deed so
so then basically, we took care of that. And it was that was the end of that process and now becomes because now there was an obstacle. We fixed it. Yes. For the shadow again, right? Because that was what stopping her in the beginning. That's where the shadow again.
She said, No.
I'm just not ready to take my time or want to see how things go. So I forgive me, she's waiting for a sign from Allah. Now let's see. Maybe I was right. Maybe I was wrong. I don't know. So I'm testing it. So look, I think you're waiting for a sign. Let me ask you this. If you are going to get a sign from Allah. If Allah wants to tell you you need to become Muslim. Will you expect to be walking down the street and then you see a big neon sign? That's fine.
says Adrian, become Muslim right now.
She said, Now, I won't expect something like that. So you might expect that sort of voluntary settlement.
Should possibly, I said, Listen, short, annoying man with glasses telling you you need to become as
soon as possible. So then I'm trying to get it to see that you've got your sign from Allah. So I totally listen. And you're not gonna find anything phenomenal about what I'm about to tell you very simple things. You're just trying to get someone in front of you to think through how many Muslims are in this room right now. He said, you know, 1000s of Muslims said, How many non Muslims do you think are inside this room right now? He said probably just mean,
how many non Muslims are outside of this room? She said billions of nuns said, okay, from the billions of non Muslims in the world, Allah chose you, to put you in a room amongst 1000s of Muslims. And you've been interested in his religion for three years. And I think that anything he disliked was his religion. You said no, I told you give me a good reason I forgot to mention, give me a good reason you won't become Muslim right now a good reason and I'll leave on poverty, but just give me a good reason. Nothing like my good reason. And she couldn't think of a reason. I said, No, I asked you for a reason you couldn't think of one. I went over the ingredients of being a Muslim.
And you're essentially there as far as belief. And you still wedding from aside from Allah.
So do you think that was enough to get to become Muslim?
No. So basically, I in the end, I told you, I don't do this with everybody. But sometimes you can see how much you can go with people based on their personality and how friendly they are. So listen to me, I actually have to go now, I'm going to give you three seconds to become Muslim. No pressure right.
Now, because it was kind of a jokingly kind of similar to garner, 123, I started to walk away. She said, What, you just can leave it like that.
And she became.
So again, it was a combination, just in this example, we'll see how many ways you can see maybe this is the issue. If that's the issue, you can ask. Like I said earlier, one of the easiest ways to find the obstacle is to say, what is stopping you from becoming a Muslim right now, when you ask this question, when they have the ingredients, the five pillars, you say what's stopping who the communists are right now. And they will come up with it? Oh, it's my fiance, oh, it's this or that. Or it can be any one of these. So So when you're looking for this external problem, it could be a sign. It could be a misconception they have about Islam, or what the Muslim that's why you asked,
What did you dislike or what caused you any problems are what causes friction in your heart, you find out what the misconception is, or they might, it might be the influence of family or religion. It might be that you think, you know, religion just causes problems worldwide. You might experience that on campus in a few weeks ago. Someone might tell you, well, I don't like to talk about religion, because most people die or more people die because of religion than anything else on Earth. Have you heard that before? Okay, now who would like to answer that for us? How do you refute that? Someone who hasn't heard the workshop, please get some fresh ideas here. And
last, the two most destructive wars in human history where
none whatsoever Okay, very good. So
same thing. No, I was gonna say the plague and stuff like that. Okay, so people died because of diseases possibly. Okay. Yeah, I was just gonna say a lot of that.
Okay, but what if they argued is a religious wars
Okay, good. Yeah.
Good. Try to give me some examples. Try to explain to them the difference between religion
trying to keep the blame away from religion and yeah, it's more of like, political side of religion or religious thing. Okay, good. All these apps were actually correct. And the truth is, that statement is false. Don't accept that statement is false that more people died because of religion than anything else on Earth. That's wrong. It's not true. If you do the math you'll find more people died because of things related to land money copying people for these purposes and more so than religion. And when it when religion is it brought into the mix, it's not purely because of Scripture that because of also another factor on top of things. And again, the example I always use is the you
know, New York City has a lot of Jews living there has a lot of Palestinians living there. Why don't Jews come and bulldoze you know, apartment buildings and have Palestinians in them in New York City? Why don't they kill and have been altercations in New York City? Because neither religion neither religious Scripture says you need to kill the other person. Simply
Because they're Jewish, or used to cook the other person simply because they're Muslim, doesn't say that anywhere in their scripture does it. But because there's an additional factor when it comes to their dispute there, there's a land dispute.
You see what I'm saying. So it's not that there's any religion in the world where you open it, the scripture says, just go kill the other person, because it doesn't belong to your faith. But there's always somewhere in some ways that you bring the bring religion in, just like with the Crusades. On the European side, they brought the religion into it, to get people to join arms. And they had, you know,
images, Muslims were desecrating Christian sites. And that got people so riled up. And they joined the armies in such huge numbers, that they were not equipped to feed them, and all of them died of starvation. So a lot of times, religion is used also to rile people up and so on and so forth. But was there any war, it was purely because of religion or any, because of scriptures that just kill the other group? Just kill them just like that. So anyway, so the idea is that it's not true, and don't accept that argument. Anyways?
Is it time for a break or something? Have we done an hour?
I don't want to get too bored.
What time is it?
25, then lunch is 1231. Okay, then we should take a break. So
if you want a 10 minute break, is that long, okay. After the break, I'm going to be here. Now, let me before you go once, sorry, before you go. Now, what's gonna happen is you during the break will come to me and say, What do I say to the someone who lives in Trinity? And I will say, actually, the truth is coming up in the nose, then someone else will come and say, What do I say to the one who's an atheist? Now say, actually, if you weren't with us, it's coming up in the notes in a little bit. Then someone will come and say, How do I do with the Hindu? And I'm gonna say, Well, you know, Hindus coming up in the notes and a little bit. So I welcome all your questions. Let's ask me any
question related to something we've already discussed, because there's a lot coming up to try to ask me about things we've discussed, say items and that slide or you skip this slide. What is that saying? And so during the break, because we don't have too much time, and I want us to get as much as we can out of these two days, so my break is not my break breaks for you be sitting here maybe next break will be entirely for the sisters or portion of lunch will be for sisters so they can ask their questions. So 10 minutes and tell us a little bit about