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Workshop On Hadeeth Part 4
Channel: Jamal Zarabozo
Series: Jamal Zarabozo - Workshop On Hadeeth
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Okay, so now let's say let's call this narrator a
And his head is our upper level. Now suppose
we get the same narration from a person over here narrator B.
Narrator B is also at the level of.
So we looked at the chain like that, you'd also conclude that Genesis right.
But now look at the situation. We call it Hudson, because we have some syrup that perhaps the narrator made a mistake. But he's an honest person, we know that he wouldn't be making mistakes on purpose or even not being in line, so forth.
So now we have a situation where a statement
is supported by beasting.
Now, we have no reason to doubt or no reason to think that we may have made
so what we do is we raise this heading
to the level of hate, but we call it
meaning not on its own merits, but
with the support of corroborating evidence and cooperating there
Everything plays before
Now, suppose some of these conditions are not met.
If any, any one of these five conditions is not met, then the head is not considered acceptable on its own, and it goes into the big broadcast category, because we don't have time consistency field
ended like 60 or 70 different tenses we can use depending on the subject.
for example, the chain is broken, have you
Now, notice, notice now that the defects are different levels, right?
Suppose you have a defect. And number three as the effect as opposed to defect the number two, every never narrators always as opposed to every narrator.
which defect would you prefer?
Know what I'm getting at.
I mean, if you had to have a defect, which defect would you prefer?
He would defer you prefer number three, why?
Is because an honest man and a good man may be correct. But we can never assume that's necessarily a dishonest person or person who is not as is narrating.
So basically, this is again, very general.
Unless the person is really known to make gross mistake, very bad mistake.
If he's known to make a lot of mistakes, his head it will be considered weak.
What if we know that shortcomings in his dad or his integrity is not the right person? Or is making gross mistake, then, in fact, it will even make this a little bit broader. And we'll call his Eddie Marin.
And there's even one other category and effect is not even
technically speaking, it's even one other category where we can prove this video has been fabricated.
Narrated for example by people who are known to gravity had eaten alive and so forth. And then we'll put that in the category of its own.
Now, going back to our example here,
we have this change.
People from an above people from above eight are all people that say of a category
but a lacking in His provision.
Not slightly lacking.
We considered a weekend you
think that a year everyone else is
great, but a
is black and gray much lacking his permission
to be considered we know he's as he is a person of integrity, we know that he's not a liar.
We trust that he will not fabricate or say things improperly and
what we rejected headings because we know that he makes mistakes.
for other reasons, for example, sometimes someone might be a very good narrative heading. under some categories, well other categories, he may not have been
very good narrator For example,
some people are getting married, at least until they get a little bit old and become a little senile.
When they become see now then they start making more mistakes.
So therefore, in their older periods, their pennies are not accepted, but in their younger periods.
Or some people became proficient headed.
After a long period of study, they became experts. So therefore, they like when they were young, they studied under certain scholars, certain areas. And then as they got older, more mature the skills they were known to study under different scholars and in different areas. So therefore, that person is heady.
And it's young period, or an upgrade where you live in a certain area, the teddies will be considered unacceptable, while at the same time it is under the other circumstances, maybe.
That's why when you study when you study marriages, and one of the one of the big problems that many, many people make today, many, many young people writing in any young or inexperienced, whatever, you can see this problem occurring is a symptom. They don't take into consideration the different aspects of narrator over time, some of the studies are rejected. And sometimes they are
sometimes, for example, they go through some books of narrators, where the scholar, the writer of that book, like in
the previous study, he just wants to give you like a one word or two words summary of what that person is about.
So he might say about a person
or are trustworthy.
What did that mean?
Okay, that means this book
Suppose you have a chain like this, you have ABCD.
so then you go to the previous books, in which the person the scholar, and it's an excellent book, but even hundreds goal was to give you just a general, one or two words, three words.
Not both of these qualities.
You could go to you could go to
find a headache like this. And you look under a and it says D,
E and F, what you're going to conclude
sec one, okay, let's see, okay.
No, no, no, you cannot do this. This is ridiculous. And this is what people do.
Okay, if it had given you a general statement about the person, but that doesn't mean under all circumstances.
You have to go deeper into other books into much larger books, and study and see is this person similar in general, or is he different in some cases, and not in all cases? Even has, he doesn't always point that out.
So he has to go to the more
and in the larger works to discuss the narrator in detail. And you cannot just go to this work. They're all
changed and broken. And divorced.
Yes, in fact,
You know, like,
y'all should be familiar with them. Welcome back to the site.
I know I'm not an engineer, but I
would love to use
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hold on your question? And this is the reason I'm getting into this because this is also going to talk about some other issues.
There's a famous scholar named
not putting one is to compile a book, a Biographical Dictionary
of narratives. Any call this book?
How would you translate those commands
to complete work for somebody?
Now what he did,
what he did is now he has to choose what narrative to put in this book, right? I mean, he didn't say I'm gonna take everyone.
So what he did is he chose, he chose six books.
And he said, Everyone invest in those six books, I'm going to put them into
how he chose
any guesses on what else to just
that I work with these names
and save money. Now, this book by a Nazi became so famous and was so important for the scholars of Hadith, that time, the Basic Books begin
to refer to be referred to as the sixth book.
And in some areas like in the indo Pak tip on this I refer to it as
as the sixth authentic works.
This was Jeff you can almost call it a good phrase to use but you can almost call it a freak of history.
He chose these six books because they're famous and good works. But I mean by any means whatsoever that all of these books are sent.
When you give it the name, the sixth then it works. Some people begin to think that that means that all the headings and those books are authentic, no.
It's just something that happens that this photo is chosen or six books, well, this books because of the importance of this work, the game to be known as the sixth books. And as the stature grew, as a fame grew, they became to be known as the sixth authentically
natural and you would never hear a real score of headings referring to them as the six of pentacles
so now this book is
and contains lots of information
about each neuron
almost as much information as democracy could find now some of that information. Some scholars have emailed me say well, it's not that important.
Now he will mention when he when the school was born,
where he lives where were his students, where did he go and what did you learn from where did he travel to
work who were her students? What did you compile and then it'll give many many heads from that scholar and so forth. This cat is close to me it
was it was much too big unfortunately, I didn't have CD ROMs back then. So
latest floors and I don't I didn't bring anything with me. I don't remember this side of the family very well. For the time being, what's another smaller leg a smaller zoom and as he came along, and
and of course,
they will come out as published nowadays, we have it available, this is still in manuscript form.
Come out it's 35 volumes. So you can imagine how big
the first one is,
is the state of thought.
That's what I wrote. But it should be
Okay, so is what we call English.
This is system
D with command, which is a standard it's 35 volume. And when tele ship a lot of MC publishes CD ROM
This is already all on his CD ROM.
But it also contains loss of information,
which some later scholars thought well, they would contain too much information.
So, for example,
it kind of came along and said, We should have written this and he breached it. What was the name of the work?
Basically the abridgement of the Britain.
Now this, this work is published in 11 points, so we went from 35, to who knows, however big that would be if they were to publish it.
So he took out a lot of information basically, and doesn't even come out, you can still find a long list of other scholars, teachers and students, he basically narrowed it down to the major
public, but unfortunately, the published edition of a very bad Lawson
was just published.
This one, unfortunately,
now, he also had the idea of a trainer that has, you know,
had the idea because over here on this other side, which I don't remember the exact what was going through it, but
somebody, once called the name of therapy had at abridging is down to basically a small book, where you have the name of the narrator, and which,
basically which generation he came from, and what books you can find him in, and whether or not he's authentic or not, sometimes even less information.
So what what he said was well above his work has too little information. So I'm going to kill it off with a simple one like that, which is like, you can almost call it like a phonebook, name and address, name, address and phone numbers, basically,
And this one,
this one has been published in two lines, it's also a terrible decision. Many, many mistakes has been published in one form a much better just, basically all the narrator's the main narrators that are found in this book are found here and are found here in our pumpkin.
The narrative was the information about the narrative is being reduced everything. So he's not giving you any specific information that you really need that if you're if you're a score of anything, you want to make a study of Hades and he wants to know if these narratives are acceptable in terms of this book, and simply rely on this book makes no sense.
But unfortunately, sometimes people do. And
well, I mean, you can you can start from that book.
start from that book to give you a general idea of who are the narrators. And whether or not in general, they're authentic and so forth, was that if you really want us to go into more detail and find out more about the museum,
you'd have to go to this book even better.
Yeah, but even then you just not
fabricated. And I was going to say sometimes you didn't fabricate.
why did they get told?
So we're splitting this chain, we went to separate the study.
And we found that they're all well, we went through the study when we found for example, that eight year old everybody both AR are authentic, narrators what a year is slightly weak,
is weak not because of his integrity or data, which is weak because is not very proficient
is not proficient is not slightly lacking proficiency, but he is not sufficient. But he is an honest person, but is not sufficient. So therefore we call him weak.
But then like before, we might have another narrator
who narrates the same thing and supports a narration.
So now we had a fear bug and making some mistakes. And this can possibly remove the possibility of mistakes. So we raised that Edie from being weak being present.
Only like like we talked about before, it will be hard to
test not on its own merits, but
these are the basic one we talked about that I wanted to make sure this
thorough thing that this has happened, at least you have an idea of what it is if
you didn't meet certain conditions.
we have to stop here. Are
there any questions right now about these concepts that we discussed?
If someone is known to have a weak memory, yeah, he will,
we will be in the weak category and if he has a really weak memory, he'll be even very weak. But if you make mistakes, sometimes that is not
as we talked about, yesterday saw is a very special in the early generations, they did not just narrate the Hadees once
but they used to go over the same videos over and over again to make sure that people noticed correctly if he narrated differently one time from another time, they would ask him you know, how come and so forth and this would be some ways that you will notice that this person, sometimes he narrates the same idea differently and therefore,
you have to question the ending whether or not is completely resolved
if they used to just narrate once you know the Hadees and you take it from him and go and never see him again.
Which is nice enough the way he did you want to have that ability to see him narrating the same edits and sometimes narrating it differently.
And as I said, you know, they used to have that circle after the heads and sometimes you'll find many lines going through the circle meaning they read the same headings many times
we need to at least one
can be broken into different categories. They are known for example, as mature as he is Maria also stayed with us.
Those are all categories lives
would take some time to springs on.
Oh, okay, is a honey is considered to hate her husband.
Those are the only kind of veggies that are acceptable,
and matters of Akita and matters of Sharia. So
now as the Hadees is narrated, or is rated
as weak, there's some difference of opinion about how and when can use that we can
say you can use it, and it gives some conditions for it. But the strongest opinion among the scholars is that isn't the vast majority of the slowest heresy for headache this week, is headed this week. This means the preponderance of the evidence is showing us that the province of cillum did not make this statement in the way that has been there. So therefore, they say that you should not use it, neither in nor should he or in matters of encouraging people to do good deeds or intimidating the boy from evil deeds. And all of them agree that if you ever narrated we can eat and you know, as this week, it is obligatory upon us to point out that is a week, or you have to narrate
in such a way. And unfortunately, nowadays probably this condition doesn't. We shouldn't except this condition in more long discussions of edits, there used to be certain ways that you could narrate a heading that would show to the people that you consider the weekend. For example, instead of saying the province of Salem citizens, as you would say that it has been narrated with the provinces
and you would use something called signal summary instead of signal.
But nowadays, if a puppy for example, says it has been it has been narrated this process and said that, and even is applying that condition, I'm sure none of you know, half the people in the audience
and it's one of the ones that condition may be that among the smaller the head is what doesn't work in general.
the works of avoiding Muslims. These are two words of headings in which the scholar of Hadees who compiled that book said this all of the headings in this work are authenticating
with some minor exceptions in the case of equality, which we cannot go into right now, but let us just say for the time being it's enough to know that the score have anything behind it saying that's all the headings in this
in this book
all of the Muslim
why Muslim also says that all the Hadith is compiled? Now, I would say in in legend, the others
that are well known admits
they did not make such claims for their work. In fact, after many IDC pointed out the effect of this headings and
so therefore, you cannot assume as it says in scenarios, you cannot assume that it's authentic. You cannot even assume that it's authentic in Abdullah's opinion
and you cannot end This is a debatable issue among the scores of headings but even if overload is above the headings, you cannot assume that it is.
You can assume it is solid, which means
Okay, I'm getting
people I've never been
they saw a smaller various name a little he decided to make a collection of headings for the general people. So he what he did is he collected headings and put them into two categories, or two. He collected headings according to this topic. And he put them into two
not chapters, but let's say sub chapters, okay, because this book discusses
in the first section section, that's what it is. In the first section, he only included headings from Al Bukhari and Muslim. So those are all.
In the second section, he included Edie from the other words,
and unfortunately, he called those any sentences that has no meaning whatsoever, it might be the case.
Now, let us call his name as the publicity came along. He likes to follow his work, but he decided to add something to it. So we went from a system that
he added a third section to. So now the first section, we look at the Michigan survey, the first section only includes Edie from a boring Muslim, those are all of
the second section includes headings from those other books, like a widower, and so and so forth, you cannot assume automatically that they're authentic, although the majority of them the vast majority of them. And the third section, he added, were headings related to the same topic that he took some central body symptoms from Muslim symptoms from other words. So again, if it's someone calling Muslim, you know, this is authentic, it's from the other words, you cannot necessarily assume they're authentic, although the vast majority of them are authentic.
long as the political
you don't see.
The the question says what, if any are the force in the head is in which the province has sent him said that all of it a woman may show her hands and say,
Please give proof explain.
Don't have all my notes with me. But
basically, this is the headings of Smith,
in which the provinces send them towards as mothers when a woman reaches the age of menstruation and nothing should be seen, except for hands and face.
The status has been narrated on the authority of Isaiah. And it has been recorded by a widow, the one who narrated from Isaiah, his name is Drake. He didn't never he never met Asians, chin broken. And also one of the later narrators is also we
know one particular scholar, famous scholar, perhaps the greatest scorer of any life today. His name is Mohammed Nasir Regina Danny.
He studied the studies and he said yes, this heading this chain by itself is weak. But then he found some supporting evidence for remember how we said that. You might have a weak headache but if it's supported by the neck
You will raise it to the degree. So he's on to other supporting evidence for it. And he concluded that it is present. But if we can, if the Hadees is very weak and has major defects, then you cannot raise it
as the principle that it has major defects you cannot read. It's another word three or four very heady, all narrated by people who have no done or no integrity whatsoever will not become Old Testament.
Why studied in detail his his argument, and I cannot see how he reads the traditional Sir, I study all the narratives and in fact he did any.
Unfortunately, for example, one of the other chains, there's a narrative gold of delivering here, who is well known among the scholars of Edison's books were burned. And after his books were burnt he narrated
and as we said, this loss is not allowed, especially not in tennis. And he used to make tennis together and he made lots of mistakes and honey, but even before his books were burned, he is considered by many scholars, weaknesses, even before his books,
were alleghany in discussing these particular edits to support
this particular train, he only brings the good narrations about in here. And he does not mention as he mentions in other books like this and
his other books, he's never he does not work out did in fact,
even though he is in general, a weak narrator, especially when he narrates in the form of Milan, which is the Harris form that he used in that particular supporting evidence. So the other two edits that he uses to support the headings of asthma have major defects and they cannot be used to
support the flow as I as I said,
I have an example of the
of a detailed discussion of the headings about whether or not women wives are able to allow to spend their money
without the permission of their husbands. And just in the latest issue of
the share if anyone wants a copy of it. I don't have copies for everyone. So if you're not interested don't take a coffee.
Preferably English as an
English speaking brother, not Not yet Not yet.
just happened with a couple more.
I want to ask you what is
example in the site and the site is an excellent book of his excellent collection. The vast majority of the headings in the study are authentic and it's
also very good.
Many times if there's a defect in the head, he will pointed out himself. So you have his comments. Not always though but also a good selection of headings that contains unfortunately number of weekends a number of very weekend is
rarely known and even if it's some sort of considered fabricated.
tournament he also is good in general majority The head is authentic. A problem with cinemas he is dealing with he also many times he used to comment after the head he would say for example, the city's assessments are here or this
has been very even so forth. In general the terminology fairly much agrees with what was received but one of the big problems with the two big ones as I said with the number one he was a little bit lacks in grading any
other words other scholars would not say this Eddie's assertion is similar.
In even an even bigger problem, an even bigger problem with the committee that even and now we pointed out in mahadasha Ma, which was
written a long time ago is that the tirmidhi had many students like a bar and so forth. Unfortunately the the the manuscripts that we have that they had at that time dating back even to the terms of
a tournament and so forth, unfortunately different manuscripts have different statements as to the ideas one will say this has happened the other one will say it doesn't say the other one will say hasn't read it. So therefore those statements also are not reliable from that point of view. Unfortunately, the previous editions even in Arabic did not really take that into consideration. They just took any one of these muscle plus any one of the unpublished and just put whatever stayed in without finding out the other differences but in general, the good work the probably the weakest or the one that has the most prominent of those for the for students, as soon as
well also the Muslims.
It is an excellent work but it is a little bit difficult for
for people like us to deal with
he did not make as many comments after the head defensive ability
it's as much larger than all the other work
there's quite a bit of differences actually by the way most of the document was mostly done
compiled in its final form by actually the son of a madman
It was either I forget which ones did the most work on and also added some of his own
also added some what is known as the additional that is from Abdullah from the sun that
you have to distinguish between the headings This is an added and edited rotor from the original work because the quality of the honey that his son added are not of the same quality that any of
this is the last question
you know, the firm is pretty flexible
the the work that is available in English as far as I know what you're referring to is not
not soon enough Germany is not an abridged edition of Germany. It says another book called The chemin
or a book about the the characteristics of the problem itself.
it does a decent work but also contains many we can especially when it is of that nature, sometimes some scars and if we're not as careful.
And the province system has this many grades here gray hairs across the system Watson this nation This is not so much related to Sharia there is sometimes they were not as good.
So therefore, you'll find lots of
the question you asked.
As I mentioned, if depending on the weakness in the heavies,
depending on the weaknesses, the headings, the headings can be raised to the level of hesitancy because we can eat and then supported by other heavyweights that have slight weaknesses and their races that have a slightly different can be supported by each other and
I'm not sure exactly what you're getting to in your question. Maybe we can discuss it back and
a lot more behind it than that.
turned over to our Brother Mohammed now