Channel: Hatem al-Haj
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Also some are sort of heavy on some bar to proceed. So before,
we are certainly going over the book of foods, and we have finished in the last
beginning of the keto diet is the book of foods
by the American Kodama and his book alarmed,
and we finished the talk about the default when it comes to food and when it comes to things and actions and meat, in particular, out of all things having a different default.
And we talked about Hummer and we talked about intoxicants, and we talked about wine turning into vinegar, and that led us to a discussion about exceptions and ongoing principles Oh,
okay. No, that would actually looks carry on. But
so, we talked about principles, ongoing principles and exceptions, and different sort of inclinations and different mazahub. Keep in mind that when we talk about the exceptions, and whether we accept the exceptions or not, it does not always lead you to permissibility it sometimes leads you to prohibition, the fact that you are respecting a particular principle, and, you know, going with this principle, it can sometimes lead you to permissibility, it could sometimes lead you to prohibition, like in the case of communists turning into vinegar, if you hold on to the principle of transformation, that the new substance will not take the rulings of the old substance, because it
has been, it is a completely different substance now, in name and in attributes, or if we talk about the Wi Fi adapter, you know, if you apply the same principle, then the data will not become would not be permissible, it would be impermissible, because the principle is that predatorial animals are impermissible. So, here the exception will not,
you know, be
sort of approved anymore, according to the HANA fees, and those Maliki's who would also concur with the HANA fees on this
is not an exception and even some of the chef ladies would concur.
And sometimes also, and this the idea of respecting the the sort of rod elka either respecting the continuity of the principle respecting the consistency of application can sometimes also be important for the coherence of certain theories, like our theory on labor for instance, theory on labor, now, you have you cannot exchange
gold for gold,
you know, except equal for equal hand to hand right.
And the different tutorials substances you cannot exchange them except equal for equal and hand to hand if it is the same
item, barley for barley. But if two items within the same group, it doesn't have to be equal for equal there has to be it has to be hand to hand to hand gold for silver barley for wheat doesn't have to be equal for equal there has to be hand to hand so how is it then that we can come to terms with Ali Ibn Abi taalib selling one camel for for
one camel to be the you know, delivered now for for
their non injurious items, non injurious items, but it isn't the same item.
So isn't there a problem here?
If I sell, you know, identical iPhone I give you now, like this iPhone, a new one that just came out and I exchanged this one for four to be delivered in two weeks.
Is there a problem here? Well, the Japanese ladies will say no, there is no problem.
The Hana fees will say there is a problem. And that is a report within the Hanafi madhhab as well. There is a problem because if it is the same item.
It cannot be
exchange for increase and deferment at the same time,
because otherwise we will compromise our labor theory.
It would be a loophole, it will be a hole in the theory. So it is the same item it is not going to be exchanged for increase and deferment.
I love that concept.
Now, the Maliki said medic, he said,
the agreement for HANA fees, but they added to this if they have the same quality and same function, and I love the new ones added by the amount of keys, because it can make us come to terms with one candle for four. Because that one candle may have had that may have been and it was reported that it was very special.
So, there are milk goats, and there are meat goats, they don't have the same value. Therefore, if you exchange one milk code for two,
meat goes, there may be some point here. But two items that are identical to each other, should not be exchanged for increase and deferment, because that will cause problems to the coherence of our theory of usury. So, making sense, and making sure of their coherence of the principles of our legal principles is a good idea is a good idea. That does not mean that you disregard exceptions that are established in the revelation.
Most of the time, these exceptions that are established in the revelation, there will be comprehensible reason for their exception,
there will be comprehensible reason for their exception, or even if there is no comprehensible reason, but it will not demolish your principal, accepting them will not demolish your principal, then you can accept them. Finally,
some people will accept them regardless of the impact of that acceptance on the ongoing principle.
And I can't fault them, it's just their intellectual orientation.
Having said that, let us go over the different animals that he would consider haram here. And we may actually go over time by 10 minutes. He says, first of all haiwan christmann behera Yun we're very
subsection animals are of two types, see animals and then the animals family for kulu Hillel in La Jolla what the hell Hayato the art themselves
as for the sea animals, they are all permissible to consume except for the snake frog and crocodile
that is the sea animals snake frog and crocodile. Remember we said before in the last class that we will go back and and pay attention to his statement for good Lumumba, Elena canaanitish and armadura sumome they are all permissible except for that which is filthy or harmful such as poisons when he was talking about non meat items, anything that is haram
How do you know it is haram? Either by
textual evidence or rational have evidence that is based on the text that requires some rationalization extra extrapolation and so on and so forth. So, for instance,
okay, so what are basically the reasons are prohibition
of anything, can you mention some
harm, of course,
can you mention another one?
No Joshua fields
And fails it says nothing adjusts and adjusts as the protect you know
split is could be filthy to some people it's not could be filthy to some people but it is not not as human urine is not just by agreement stuff there. Okay
What else? Huh?
textual no we're still here with things that are comprehensible.
intoxicant that is in particular with drinks, but you could add it under harm it is a special type of harm intoxication
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it is it is different it is different from fails it is most tech birth
like any either fly if it drops in your food you take it out and eat no problem
can eat the fly itself
not but not because of this because of this because it smells terrible, repulsive disgusting. People of sound nature would not be eating flies would not be eating cockroaches would not be eating mice.
As we will come to see here, these are not nudges
these are nose notice not everything that is repulsive is nudges. Most of them are not nudges hedgehog,
why is it nudges
Okay, so, now I want here
to say let us have like double line here triple line and then add some things that are textual
you know, prohibition of 300 or three you know, explicit prohibition
of eating a particular
animal Kinsey pork explicitly prohibited
you don't have to even look for a reason.
And some will be explicitly prohibited like domestic donkeys that would not be certified that were the other reasons will not apply to it. Because why is it that we can eat horses but not donkeys? Because the Prophet said don't eat donkeys.
and he allowed the eating of horses.
So the three except lesson now
how am robell cut? So, commanded killing he commanded the killing of particular animals
and now you're on a cut. He forbade the killing of particular animals.
would be here, he forbade the killing of frogs.
He commanded the killing of certain animals, snakes,
rabid or vicious dogs
Scorpio scorpions and snakes in different reports. You know the sometimes mentioned Scorpion sometimes dimensions like you know
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these are five things that can be killed whether in handled or haram even in the sacred precinct you can give them
if you can kill them, would you be allowed to waste
sort of for good food wholesome food? No.
Then it means that they cannot be eaten.
If you're not allowed to kill them like frogs, that means you can even slaughter them you can just you are not allowed to kill them period.
If you have been explicitly forbidden from eating from eating them, such as donkeys, that's it you are just forbidden from eating them.
Or pigs. Pork
so let's go over what he says and then you know, put add some more in under each in each column here.
First of all, haiwan christmann bahariya magara if Mr. Bahari fukuhara
himself has four sea animals they are all permissible to consume except for the snake frog and crocodile snake frog and crocodile
you went to expect that there will be some disagreements here
because how Allah says are hella lakum sided battery
so all the game animals of the sea have been made permissible for you.
There were no exceptions here in the Qur'an from seafood, all seafood, everything that is in this sea is permissible.
why are we having a problem with a hairdryer? Because it looks very much the snake looks very much like the one outside and it would be most tech best repulsive.
Why are we having a problem with themselves the crocodile
because it is able to live outside so it is not really a sea animal per se, but rather can live in both habitats.
Although it is predominantly sea animal, but since it lives in both habitats and it is pretty Torrio have found predatorial animal
whereas predatory oh well we will come to this
Okay, we will have it under harm
because eventually they
we can have it separately but eventually predatorial animals have been forbidden because
they're vicious nature can be transmitted through their meat to you, you get the hormones and you know, whatever sort of chemistry
transferred to you through the meat and that will make you acquire some of their vicious predatorial nature.
And that's the explanation of the scotties
I mean it's
okay. Let us hear because some people can say everything is harmful that is not halon
let us add in toxic and tear
and add pretty the predatory of here
are printed Fang
animals that would include birds with claws or clogged
predatory birds, quad predatory birds, okay
and keep everything separate. So
You will have
harmed me here will be harmed that is not that
doesn't have there is no cause apparent cause except the harm, just pure harm. You want to have tobacco here for instance, you know, for tobacco here, the prophet never talked about tobacco
he will have in the sec ammonia here in large amounts not in small amounts, it's a particular bushy plant that grows in the lemons and it is
suck ammonia, they used to use it as a stool softener. So, it induces diarrhea
when large amounts It is called
you know, expect with expectedly in English Colonia course, Kimani because it grows in the in greater Syria and this is how they came to know about it. So it is coming from
our you know from suck ammonia, okay. So in large amounts, this would be forbidden in the hanratty madhhab in large amounts, because it causes harm in large amounts. That means,
if you eat 200 eggs, maybe they will consider this forbidden in somebody's mouth.
Because sacrimoni explicitly in Morocco and tada tada it is mentioned or zafferano or other plants, that would be okay in small amounts will be forbidden in large amounts. So
this is the category of harm, but there is no other reason except the harm. No other reason to make this forbidden. It's not going to do this. It is not intoxicant. It is not cubbies,
it is not, you know animal to begin with.
There is no explicit prohibition, there is no prohibition from killing, there is no command to kill.
It's just hard that set period and poison will be here.
Anything that is poisonous will be here, including poisonous animals will be here.
Given that the effective cause here is harm,
when we allow people
to have a nicotine patch,
to get out of smoking, given that the effective cause is harm,
yes or no? Yes.
Would we allow people to get on, you know, in a program to enroll in a program that will administer small amounts of
methadone, for instance, which is on like, something like an opioid that you can wean people off of a little bit easier than other opioids, what you will this be allowable? Yes, because it is about the harm and you know, here also it would be the intoxication or some level of intoxication, confounding the mind. But if you can have it in a controlled amount, that will not confound the mind that will allow you to withdraw to help the person with the person from their dependence on other more dangerous substances, then yes, because if the amla is rational, you can you can
handle manage that irrational and rationally, if the Analyze rationally have room to basically rationalize poison, can you give small amounts of poison to people to immunize them against larger amounts to a bit is called what these sensitize them?
Yes, because the enema here is harm. And here you're not causing harm, harm, you're trying to protect them from harm. Okay, so everything here, this is about rational sort of
We're not gonna talk about vaccines now.
But the idea here is
so have lived ah he said accepted all sea animals would be holiday except the snake because he considers a mustache best.
See the sea snakes the crocodile because it is predatorial
and the FDA because there is the particular prohibition from killing the frogs.
And certainly these things are controversial. Some people would allow the eating of crocodiles because they are sea animals.
But certainly the the authorized position in the method is the prohibition of crocodiles because they have to double habitat, and they are flanked predatory animals will bury you. As for the land animals, for a moment woman who is forbidden to eat could lose ynab in Minnesota.
Because the Muslim reports from now are bad that the Prophet sallallahu Sallam now had a supervisor Salamanca live in Abyan ministry there will been minute by the prophet SAW Selim forbade old fashioned predatory animals and clod birds,
Fang predatory animals and clod birds. So he mentioned the first one called luthi, NAB in Minnesota based on this hobbies, often predatory animals, and all things predatory animals were forbidden
because they may
transmit to you their predatory vicious nature, their hardware, their caliber, their aggression,
through their throat hormones and other chemicals in their meat, or kulu the meth lab and multiply it and by the way, and according to the Hanbury Math Lab, while you chromodynamics water accurate law, it is the tested eat meat frequently that is all meat including beef and lamb and everything. Well, Oklahoma Dharma product, Alok Mehta is detested to eat meat frequently.
that intensity, or that sort of
as amaravati Allahu said Fenella Whoa, dada.
Dada what's in common? It has intensity, a como la lucha de la vaca to come stay away from me because it has intensity like wine. That does not mean don't eat me period that does not mean there is any virtue in being vegetarian. No, there is not, you know, rationally there is not you there are essential amino acids and meat that are not present in vegetables. That prophet ate meat, the Sahaba ate meat, it cannot be a moral virtue. There is no scientific backing for this
contrarily the science proves that. You know, eating meat is important for human health and human strength, the essential amino acids that are present in meat that are hard to find in plants and all of that stuff. Given we have said all of the above, it is advisable that you don't eat too much meat. And you don't eat me too frequently, frequently. Because like he eats for breakfast, like sausage, and whatever. And then you eat for lunch meat and you eat That's crazy.
Anyway, so go to the northern Minnesota or kulu the meth lab in Maine attire all cloth birds, when hillmorton la Yeah, well because domestic donkeys and mules, domestic donkeys and mules, where do I put domestic donkeys and mules?
So domestic donkeys were explicitly because, as you know, Muslim reports from otava and reporting from Japanese and others, not as well, some of my academic
the Prophet sallallahu Sallam on the day of hiber forbade the eating of the mystic monkeys and said they are bridge
rates. filth, filth,
Notice rich like nudges, rich, read supersede read, design, you know, nudges all this all the above all the same, so filthy nudges.
so the some of the scholars used that wording of the Hadith and said the idea is bridge. Some of the scholars said dialogue is led to commerce, it's the you know, does not get divided in the booty war that's very weak. Some of the scholars said that I like his
The water carrier means that it is gelada to what it means goes around the village eats everything that is there, it's garbage. So the idea is that donkeys are usually Jelena.
Jelena would mean what
they eat fails, they eat fails. So, would you want to have gelila here?
Yes and no because gelila can be purified, it will not be a permanent Prebisch. All you need to do with a gentle Allah is to keep it and feed it good food until it meets me it becomes
This is not a permanent prohibition This is a temporary prohibition.
What is like gentle Allah is plants that have been every gated with filthy
water or pens that have been fertilized with filthy stuff, you just wait until it is irrigated by pure water and then becomes die.
So dilemma is the filth eating animal, but this is special because this is a temporary prohibition, it is not a permanent prohibition, filthy eating animal. So some of the scholars said donkeys because they are Delilah. Some said because they are not divided in booty, some set because they are rich the profits of the outbreaks. Why do you need any more than the fact that they are rich Some are some say he said they are rich to make them not eat it. He said they are rich in the not in the literal sense but he said they are rich because they are not they are now Haram. So if they are haram the ordinary it's because they are Hara. But why are they Haram is not because they are rich
they are in fact because of some other reason. And here are the other reasons 123 and four which one is the fourth
people use them to ride them so why like slaughtering them with deprive people of that usage usufruct
deprive people of transportation. Therefore, the prophets of Salaam wanted because of certain circumstances and fiber not to deprive people of their transportation and forbade the eating of donkeys.
At any rate, whatever the answer is, we don't eat donkeys.
While we run mules, mules will bring us to another discussion that since the US the default in animals is prohibitionist. Remember, animal food versus other foods versus all things that default was prohibition for kulu mattawan leather min halal and haram for hawara everything that is
basically produced by the coupling or the mating of halal and haram animals will take the side of which one of their parents the Haram one not the Halawa? So am you is the child of a donkey and a horse horses are harder to eat because they were eaten during the time of the problems and there was no prohibition. This was reported from Iowa it's reported for many other scholars, as reports from jabber that we used to eat horses during the time of the profits of Lawson. And
so boring to a horse and a donkey horses halaal to eat donkeys haram to eat the mule is haram to eat because the default
Is impermissibility therefore when something descends from two animals one is hot out and one is haram, the default is haram they gave examples of a dog mating with a goat and don't know if this ever happens. And then they say that whatever product
of that meeting when we had our a, you know, but then they talked about other things also, when it comes to
you know, the different creatures mating with each other. I don't know if all of those examples are they'll actually have some reality, but the mule is there to does have reality. And then the sheikh said when my Aqua df men attire can sorry we're Rahami were horrible Bane what aapka scavenger birds such as eagles, vultures, pied crows,
these or upca has like a book on has like a spot spot crows pilot and spotted crows. So the crows and vultures and
These are called birds by the way. These aren't cloud birds. But they also are scavengers they eat jF the eat dead me animals. So
unlike soccer for instance.
Why am I stuck with so many hotshot can Ferrari
so they make a difference between the clothes that bear the clothes that they have different types of clothes and forgive me I'm not an expert on clothes and stuff. But they say that there is the horrible Zara is halaal to eat the grub that that lives on farmland the crows that live on farmland are held on to eat and these types of crows the pies and crows, crows and spotted crows and these different types of crows are haram to eat. I don't eat any crows.
And then he said when I'm stuck with a minute Hassan Can we have a lolly or Buddha?
Or barbarian no okay tell me made him sort of nice also the Mohan guru Akira Allahu Ahad Rahman who carella
all unwholesome slasher repulsive animals such as pets, mice and the like, except for the caribou and dub Blizzard, because the Messenger of Allah sallallahu Sallam so it consumed that his table and when asked if it is if it was Haram, he said no. Aside from these animals, all others are permissible to consume. So why am I stuck best? All the everything that is repulsive hotshot does not necessarily mean and six because he said like mice. So when the we called the translation of honcharuk now is insects. But them it's every small little thing that is sort of repulsive and disgusting. Is hotshot in mice or Hazara Jebel Hazara geckos, hotshot, you know geckos Jeroboam is
like something that is a mouse that is that lives in the desert. Looks like a mouse.
fact it's controversial whether Jericho is allowed to eat or not, or haram to eat. Because apparently, there is reported it's almost
like, decreed an expiation for getting a job in the Haram. So it means that it is haram to eat. But at the same time, it looks like mice and a mathematical expression, but it looks very much like a mouse. So it is haram to eat. So there is controversy here. Could there be controversy? Yes, there is so much agreement, but then we would have some room of controversy, particularly in this area repulsive. What do you mean by repulsive and where did you get this from, from Allah saying you're headed on a play about well, how do you want
to make permissible for them that which is wholesome and to make it permissible for them that which is repulsive? What is repulsive to you is not repulsive to me. How do the hum valleys calibrate this? They say, Carlo McAdams, Baffin alarum ADSR fiza Zamani, sobre la to Santa Monica Holly harder everything that was repulsive to the Arabs city whether Arabs,
affluent city dweller Caribs
During the time of the Prophet sallallahu sallam, why affluent, because people that are not affluent to basically eat everything during their time, scarcity of food, the living and they're living in a desert scarcity of food, people who are not affluent people that are from the bad the bad ones, nomadic nomadic people or bad ones, we just eat everything that moves
and happen to now there are the peoples that would eat everything that moves. So, then you stack best men, because they were the people being addressed to the crisis was being addressed by this book.
The first sort of audience and the first audience doesn't matter that the you know, what they thought Yes, because it was revealed to them in their language. And they were meant to be the prototype, not the only Muslims, but the prototype the first embodiment the first example the first prototype first model.
Therefore, it matters. However, this is not set in stone, this is basically how the homebodies tried to rationalize it, there are other rationalizations within the embedding method and without such as
the average average between harder and better average between the affluent and the poor average between everything and wassup the people who are in the middle between the poor and the rich in the middle between the city dwellers and the nomadic or the nomads, people who are in the Middle West sound nature, what is it that they would consider repulsive, there is another way to figure this out to attach it to what your culture
what is repulsive in your particular culture would be repulsive. Now,
let us let us you know, because it is the overwhelming sort of
that, there are certain things that are repulsive that have been considered repulsive that have been reported by the majority of the scholars to be repulsive that we should consider repulsive, but beyond this, beyond this, when it comes to different things, we will not consider we will basically say there is room here for cultural differences, there is room here for culture of differences. Now, the hummingbird is considered repulsive, for instance and feed elephants.
And they they consider it a feed also to have a nap or to have canine teeth, ma ma ma, ma ma ma ma ma ma in hoonah. But I have not seen anyone with a bigger canine teeth NAB. But there's the field killed with his NAB. It could but you know it but that is not the usual thing. The field is not predatory. The field you know, it can kill you, it can step over you and kill you. But that is not, you know, necessarily a predatory behavior. But they added to this because it was like a weak edler you know, the fact that he has
teeth sticking out. We call them NAB does not mean that its friend, predatory animal, like lions, and cheetahs, and tigers, and foxes, and hyenas and all that stuff. So, but in order for them to support their prohibition, they also said this cabbies stackless
Okay. You know,
so my, I guess all of us should agree, you know, and if you don't agree with then we'll have like a big issue with you.
My should should be Mr. Murthy should be repulsive, you know, nobody should be eating rats
and then feed and then the would add to this like for instance of
monkeys. So why is a pair of the Mustang best? Because they felt that the third of the way they want to put the pedal down here because yeah, if he had with it has aggression,
but at the same time, you know, snatch really like lions, like a monkey. So they said Mustapha birth, that it is repulsive.
You know, and it is, you know, somewhat if someone told you that, this is
Like my mom, like a grid monkey is not particularly appetizing.
So but but at any rate, at any rate, there is some room here for this agreement among the scholars, a field is not forbidden by agreement, the crocodile or the elephant, the crocodile is not forbidden by agreement. There is some room for difference here, the elephant according to the authorized view and embedded method, the elephant is forbidden. The monkey is forbidden, the crocodile is forbidden, the caribou is forbidden, although there is disagreement within the henneberry method about the caribou as well. mines are forbidden. geckos are forbidden. All of these are forbidden under the banner of Mustafa Bethel. These are unwholesome, repulsive disgusting,
When Obi Wan Haley was debating the anana vs. Allah settler having a feeder home and fighting with some Baba Sidon, it is also permissible to eat the flesh of horses and hyenas. Since the Prophet sallallahu Sallam permitted the consumption of horses
of horse meat and referred to the hyena as game referred to the hyena as game and we have gone over this discussion, you know, horses, there is no reason to forbid them. Right? Even if the Prophet did not allow their consumption, what would be the reason to forbid them?
He use utility here, but that is not enough reason to forbid them. You know, because you could say that cows also would help was farming.
You know, so it's not enough reason to forget the numbers. We always have that for donkeys. But there are other reasons and we don't know exactly why the profits are Southern forbade the eating of donkeys, but we could have applied the default to horses, that the default is that everything is handled to eat. Animals are allowed to eat except, you know, thank predatory animals, filthy animals such as pork, you know, a lot called the trips, you know?
And harder, you know, harmful stuff, whether it's animals or not disgusting ones.
So, horses, we don't have a problem with horses, even though like, you know, a lot of people would not eat the Prophet eat horse meat. No, he did not. You know, a lot of people would sympathize with horses, like, you know, like your horse.
But we're keep in mind that
zebras are harder to eat, not because that's why we call domestic donkeys because they meant that zebras
are allowed to eat that's why they always call home or at least not watch a domestic violence. So all of these things are in the wild would be healthy, giraffes healthy.
So why is giraffe haram to eat an elephant is not to eat? Because it looks prettier.
You know? It's nice, it doesn't look disgusting.
You know, the fee looks a little bit repulsive, that your app does not looks like a deer that is sort of
talking about evolution here
Well, the kangaroo is like something to actually reflect on the you know, if you take kangaroos for instance, are their predatory bank predatory animals?
Would the cause any intoxication Now are we can say they're in filthy because you need to prove that.
Like if their meat is proven harmful, that's a different story. But that's a different story. The only thing is, is are they repulsive to eat? Is it repulsive to eat kangaroo meat
and that people will disagree over this. Is it repulsive to eat kangaroo meat?
So then the the exception was the barber because Ebner VMR which is a modern heavy Amar and also reported from Ottawa municipality said to jabber adopt also
hyenas are game animals. He said yes, he said a Kudo hatch. Can I eat it? He said, Yes.
He said, semiotic una Rasulullah sallallahu Sallam Did you hear it from the Messenger of Allah sallallahu Sallam? He said yes. And this was reported by Cernan.
Yes, it was not agreed upon like the heavy stuff could have been have been minister of Elam if it had been men attire or the prophets of Southern forbade the eating of every Fang predatory animal or GLAAD birds. But it has been deemed authentic by many scholars. And there are reports from other Sahaba that they allowed the eating of hyenas. But go back to the previous class and listen to our discussion about why the canopies and Maliki's would not and that is not automatic is because you know that there is a disagreement within the medic EMF about
all the severe or, you know, predatory animals. Some Maliki's would allow that. And that is why the sort of the famous story about the medic ease and you know, that are allowing of the eating dogs and things of that nature.
But it is a disagreement within the medical method about the severity in general predatory animals in general. And there is another disagreement within the method about dogs and the eating of dogs and then adjusting of dogs and all of that stuff that relates to dogs. But
go back to the previous class and listen to what we said about why the honeybees, and the majority of Maliki's would not consider hyenas permissible to eat and why the Japanese and the honeyberries would consider hyenas permissible to eat cuckolding other
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