Did God Become Man?
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The segment discusses the concept of "traditions" and the use of multiple Gods in various cultures. It uses history and popular figures as examples to illustrate confusion and confusion. The concept of "arreal God" is discussed, including the use of " sleeves" and "people's actions to achieve their goals." The speakers emphasize the importance of understanding the principles of Islam and the shift in worship. The conversation also touches on the use of technology to help people communicate with others and address problems.AI Generated Transcript ©
Our last
topic
is God commands.
This particular topic is
my opinion,
what the dialogue has,
when it has to tackle and make clear
when
we told him
to tell people about
the issue of design,
in
totality,
but much of what the message of so he
addresses is also addressed
these gods
because
when we look at all of the various religions around the world,
and we look at Islam and the unique concept that Islam has of God,
we'll find that
the vast majority of the religions
are tipped over this point
of God.
People worship the creation,
instead of the Creator.
And
by nature,
they tend
to worship
what they perceive as being their highest form of nature,
which is not
even when they are worshipping other beings in creation,
you will find there is a link between man and then
and then worshiping man ultimate
man worship. And so
now,
if we take for granted
that the belief
held by major religions,
about God
is generally
we can say that, again,
that
held in Islam
is unique amongst the views of God.
It's unique not only in a concept, how God is perceived, but also in the fact that
the concept of God has not evolved.
God
was God
and remains
unchanged.
We believe
as Muslims, that
the understanding of God
as Prophet Muhammad
brought
was not a new understanding
social anthropologists
a way of explaining that monotheism evolved.
Having concluded
that
men
originally came from an ape like ancestor
concept, psychology, psychology
They're all sharing this general concept
that
they evolve from the same source.
And we don't find a worshiping God.
As far as they can proceed, then they concluded that
man created God that God is a figment of man's imagination.
Some of them Freud, Durkheim and others, their proposed theories as to how the man arrived at
the worship or the creation of the concept of God
put forth
the idea coming out of the industrial complex,
where wearing, he creates a scenario saying that the early human be
man,
white woman, children,
that the children, the male children
may love their mother, and were jealous of the Father.
And, in their jealousy,
they killed their father.
Now, the father was the provider went out,
to provide
the ones they killed that that no provided
no
one was looking out for them. So, they created the imaginary head
would provide and protect
modern
psychiatry and psychology
we're going
to go No,
each school has its own explanation as to how
things evolved, but began.
So, the idea is is a social anthropologist when they analyze religion as a whole, if they evolved,
early man, when he saw around him the forces of nature, nice
funding,
earthquake
forces of nature.
Here it is in theorems.
And
in his tribal circumstance,
tribe,
the user the strongest,
the most powerful,
beat up everybody else, everybody has to submit to Him. So, when he does, then, before they all used to go out and hunt, because he is the strongest, he does that, he thinks of everybody else, they have to go out and hunt, when they run, they take some for their family, they must take some to him,
their offerings to him,
when his pleasure
is pleased with them.
So, this is the beginning of the idea of the offerings to the gods.
So in the same way as the rationalized
travel achieved, by offering giving offerings,
then
these powerful forces of nature.
Now, they
gave images of being some kind of gods, they will try to appease them by making the sacrifice offered to the lightning garden.
And in the early days, and all the various, but there are many tribes and each tribe has its own version of these gods who the gods will have been applied.
And they would, you know, make images usually which were a human like images.
Now, as prions came in contact with other tribes,
certain tribes was overcome with defeat and beat up the other tribe. Kill them in slavery or women, take their children several things, or make them as fat hold on to them
or whatever.
What would happen
Is that this particular tribe that has beaten up these other tribes and defeated them and gain control over them,
their gods, there was give up and accept the gods of this conquering tribe.
Because these the gods in the tribe of the real God, that they help that everybody else is more powerful.
So, as time is progressing, now, the from tribes from individual families, tribes are being formed, and tribes are trading into nations as they conquer other tribes. In that process, the number of gods are decreasing,
decreasing
till they reach the point of,
to God,
which is the example given
to people they decrease the number of dogs.
And then eventually, the last step from that was to go through
the process of evolution.
And then they take examples of people that are out in the world today and use them as examples of the different stages.
They take the North American Indian, and other tribal people. So, I name is called an Africa, South America, and up in different parts of the world, we have people, they worship, nature and the forces of nature.
Then, they go to the Indian Hindus show the Hindus, they have First of all, God, many, many, many, many family as an
example of passage, then they go down to this duel, this is the perfect
opportunity
to have a lot of good and evil, like
fire symbolical design of life.
And then
Judaism and Christianity as an example of arriving at monotheism,
of course, why this is nonsensical?
Because,
like the people tries to prove evolution, they have a theory already,
which they've now gone into circumstances and just put evidence to support their theory.
But actually, if one looks at the history, it's not like that.
There was a time in Egypt.
When Egyptians arrived at the worship of one God,
that rock,
solid,
I forgotten the name of this particular Harold.
He is the one he and his period of time, it was about the worship of one God.
To him, they were the worship of Allah.
And if we look at the stage, from Judaism to Christianity, we don't see
polytheism to monotheism, what we see is monotheism or polytheism.
Jews believe in one God could be made in three
directions, as corruption.
So the Islamic view is that Adam believed in one God.
This was the same the need for Abraham, Moses, etc, etc, right down below.
And that's, it was people deviating from the teachings of the Prophet that produce these beliefs and others. Sometimes they degenerate into polytheism, animism where they worship nature. Sometimes it's generated to try theism, like that as a Christian,
or to dualism like that of the parties.
that these are just varying shades of degeneration have
deviated from the main
concept of God.
as presented by Islam in the final form,
we believe was not an evolved concept, but a constant concept held by Abraham and Mohammed,
abundance, and an all those in between. Now if we look at the major religions in the world today,
usually when people get to look at the major religions that have Gods
they included
Unlike
I mean, if the world population is
some 3.5 4 billion people, and the Jewish total population is someplace around
the point in looking at
nothing
else
the numbers of Hindus
the number
is the number 100 million. So we're gonna look at world religions, look at
look at
the Christians
and look at Muslims.
So, as we look at Christianity,
Hinduism
in Hinduism,
as a concept, that everything
of
everything
they have a dual principle which they call Aquaman. Batman
refers to the self or the soul, the self evolving
refers to the universal soul
that
is when the individual
self,
individual human beings, animals, everything, this is a part of brightness.
So, in the end, what you're saying is that, everything is really
what they portray is that, right,
from God,
human beings
came in to be some came into being from his head, this is the Brahmin class, upper got
some from his arms and body, some from his legs and the top of his feet.
At the very bottom,
untouchables coming after them.
Size is divided up into cost, depending on which part of god
they're beneath, is that
human beings strive
to
reach a stage where he becomes one with God again, the end of the whole process is life is a life on a week. We love reincarnation, when he dies, he is reincarnated. He comes back into the life again, now the body
is your goal in this life, karma, good karma. Then when he is reborn, he moves up a notch.
These are the
four major costs but then they're
not buying us.
Good boy. Now, if you weren't good, then you may be reborn as a lizard
or a dog or
some other animal.
This is why loads are very strict to vegetarian is what it's about, because you may be eating your grandfather
is there This is also why suicide for them is really easy.
We are a huge portion of Hindus are working. And although every day you read a newspaper, some indoors either a noose around the ceiling Finally, you know they find them in their life their life gets tough
to try
easy for them to just come back
there
people you know working your way up the ladder
and in any race development class.
Then when you die at that point, you really are reabsorbed by ROM as well. So this is a call
And in Buddhism, it's called Nirvana.
At that point, you become
one with
the universal gods.
So, their whole religion
philosophically
requires men to realize that he in fact,
and all of the so called New Wave, religious stuff of the New Age, religion, new age,
people like Shirley MacLaine and others that are involved,
variety of different versions of the New Age, religion. All of this goes back to this idea of
realizing that you are reincarnation.
You get hypnotized go back to your previous life. My previous life I was resistant adapted and all these stories that they're really
all of this back to the idea of reincarnation, and that man, fundamentally.
Now,
at the same time, that they have this basic
concept of universal God, and his powers as a preserver,
destroyer, as the creator
attributes of God, they portray as different gods separate.
And this is where you get the so called Hindu Trinity.
Now among them one of the most popular of the gods
is Vishnu.
And Vishnu, they believe,
becomes incarnate at different points. In
the incarnation, they called avatar.
avatar means God met
God.
From time to time, the different individual claims that their avatars rules which have certain states to claim.
But traditionally,
they believe that there were 10 major appearances of Vishnu
you know, in
creative form, false creations.
They give them a variety of different names, appearances, and they're related to the forum.
Just to give you an idea of the kind of things that they're talking about, one of the first appearance of Vishnu is called matsya.
Vishnu appearing as a fish
the fish takes on all the characteristics and systems represented an efficient becomes an object of worship.
He also became manifest
or entirely as korma, which is a thought.
So,
becomes formed for God's worship.
And then
you know,
the wild pig
and the rise of the half lion out man and then you hear of Rama, Krishna,
Hari Krishna,
Rama
and Krishna is represent human
incarnation.
Now,
the concept here is of God becoming man.
In Christianity,
there is
a similar concept.
No, it doesn't promote the idea of God being everything.
In fact, they consider this to be pantheism and they reject.
They do promote the idea that the human soul is divine.
As the general health of the human soul is divine,
but in specific terms of God becoming men,
this is expressed
in the concept of Jesus
was a man
and express in the Gospels and john in particular, the beginning of which in which it says In the beginning was the word
and the Word was with God,
and the Word what
goes on, and the Word became flesh, and dwelt among men.
philosophical
presentation of God becoming that now, the term which is used for words, in the
particular gospel.
And if you go back to the Greek philosophy,
and look at their
concept of God, under the universal soul like being
reflected on itself and his thoughts became other beings and below that
plays the role of the intermediary between the universal God and man.
And
the problem
the problem is understanding how
God
could create from nothing
because human beings
in our world, when we create,
what we do is we actually manipulate
when we make tables,
we are manipulating the woods, we have cut down the tree and shape it in here, you know, we melt some rocks because iron McNeil screwed together. So we're manipulating nature we're making and creating things, from things that already existed.
So, they find themselves in a situation where they cannot conceive of how God would create
from nothing. So the easy way to understand is of God creating
himself
as he took himself to make the creation. That's why he ended up in some of their classes, he's been inside of everything. And it was all philosophy actually, the ancient Greeks,
Plato in particular,
that human beings represented, portions of God, which we're trapped in matters, and that the purpose of life here was to realize that that portion, size matter was actually gone. And that we would do a series of exercises,
you know, spiritual, philosophical, logical exercise, we will do to liberate our spirits from
the material body. So, spirits can rejoin, with
its origin gods.
Now,
this idea,
coming from both the Hindu Channel,
as well as the Greek philosophical channel,
ended up amongst
a large portion of
subscribe to a set of videos, which are
grouped together under the general heading of Sufism.
What you find
in the various branches of Sufism
is that
the efforts and the purpose of life for the Sufi is
his disappearance in God becoming one again with life.
And the various exercises that they described, various today. Each one has their own set of exercises that you do.
Some of them it's just repetition. Some of them involve moving your head certain ways I'm involved in reading their wishes.
Write a different form.
They believe that these different exercises will help you to liberate yourself from the material and allow your divine portion to become again, one with
rocks,
of course, has been cloaked in Islamic terminology. And even verses from a crime have been drawn out support.
They will point and say, Well, you know, a law says, when he created Adam,
and Adam,
Adam Spirit, the Spirit was inside of Adam was a part of a lot of spirits.
Of course, human beings came out to sign a piece of
a piece of a lie.
Of course, this argument
is a false argument.
In my book,
fundamentals of tawheed, has gone into detail and broken apart and sure that summary that's what a lot
of the Spirit
This is not taken, literally.
That actually blew a portion of his own spirits into Adam.
Because we don't believe that a lost
spirit is created.
Buy a lot of commodity,
commodity and spirits a
lot of noise a lot.
Create leaks. So
speaking about blowing, that
gave us in a variety of different ideas, the angels, Blue Angels, but a lot of firsts with
this as a means of showing the special quality of the Spirit entering into an ultimate divine command, just like he said,
when I can allow
records from before the Battle of others, he picked up from
the enemy was hundreds of yards away on the opposite side of the valley, and he threw the stand up.
And they reported afterwards, before the battle, they all said
a lot of hard to reach them. So alive describes the throwing of the profits as his
and that
when I refer to it as spirits,
Allah uses the reference of him
to elevate
the status of some parts of his creation, just as the law refers to
the capital of profit, as now the law, the law of kamma nobody gets an image in his mind that this is a law of capital, meaning literally, you know, I thought I had the camera you have a camera like
a lot of difference with his his cameras.
showing that this camera is a special camera amongst the cameras and
similarly, he refers to
gibreel as the spiritual and supermario refers so this terminology when a lot of repressed and things have been hidden, there's no sometimes you're forced to fight them is creation, that he has a noble calling it is. Sometimes it literally refers to itself about mercy.
You know, of course, this is not in that same context with the law refers to His mercy, talking about the law, but when he talks about his cattle, talks about his Earth, and His Prophet, then is referring to parts of his creation that
is the proper understanding of this verse. However, the plaster remains that from this concept,
the
Sufi
Sufi movements, mystical movements,
promoted the idea of everything being a law, lobbying everything people can become a lot
And the most famous individual among them
was one of the
saints in the hierarchy.
When he was there, that was a lot of thing. And on top,
of course, the largest first
one was
fundamental
design here. And when he was
asked to recap
of the four cardinal of Muslim judges, and again, this sister almost never opened his garments and said, there's nothing inside this garment except
in his book called,
he writes, if he's not recognize God, at least recognize the signs.
I am the creative truth.
Because through the truth, I'm eternal.
My friends and teachers are believed and Pharaoh
is where the teachers I read the
article saying what you know.
He said his lease was threatened by the Hellfire Yes, he did not recant.
Pharaohs drowned in the sea, and did nothing can we acknowledge nothing between himself and God. And I although I am killed and crucified, though my hands and feet are cut off. And
so what do you say?
You saying here that it leaves when a lot of soul agrees to bow to Adam.
He didn't recognize Adam as being God a god.
This is this is the act of telling.
This was no reiterating his belief in
a review
and zero
type
parents are recognizing that there's no God Besides, he and God are one.
And of course,
you know, when they
found these individuals is totally undefended. It took him out and cut his head off.
And if you read in the books,
they will describe the miracles
when his head was cut off, it rolled on the ground.
So for now, this is just
confirmation of that.
You know, it's like,
in the time of Hollywood,
when, because some of the companions or some of the people who were claiming to be his followers,
activity to him divinity.
Right, this was introduced by
Jewish
supposedly convert to Islam from Yemen,
when he caught some of them who they're giving him
a lot. And
he
set on fire.
Kill them by burning them alive.
When they were signed up on the birth, they said, Now we know for certain that you are online, because only allow polishes requires
that same kind of state of affairs.
So
I mean,
in terms of highlighting heads rolling, and saying,
I mean, it's not really a problem.
No, it's true. It's not mythologies that they made up. There was 210 rolls and kept saying,
because the law tells us
the story of
reflect back on that story.
That story,
when prompted
to receive the commandment and he left behind
and a salary amongst them, got the people to melt their gold, and he made this cop. He claims he saw
An angel walk in a pickup truck from the footprint of Angeles to London
in the mix, right?
When the calf was formed, and the people stood before the cow, the cow said,
people are dropped down into June, you know, our business got to the top was mind blowing,
was the cop actually going to
the gym can go inside the coffin, make the sounds. And I'm sure you're all familiar with the phenomenon last year of Ganesh, right. The elephants had gone of the Hindus,
all over India, this elephant has gone who they normally know the part of their rituals, worship and rituals, they they pour milk over the gods
and reports in the mouth for down the side, but one day,
more in the milk in the mouth of the elephant had got
drinking,
drinking all over India, even in the Bay Area.
And he was there enough to see what I hear in England here he was drinking milk up here too. So
it's just not a whole lot going on behind the
scenes like that. But if it is real, if there is reality,
understanding the jinn origin outbreaks, not a problem, to understand these kinds of phenomena, because the jinn can interfere in our world in this fashion. Among the Christians, you know, they have what is known as stigmata.
stigmata is that every year around this time,
over the centuries, Around this time, Easter,
there are some Christians who will start to appear in the middle of their costs.
In the middle of their problems, and their feet.
Sometimes around the hips
come from
confirming this is Jesus on the cross he had the nails in this
even though
you know, a number of Christians
argue that really wasn't there and his arms were tied.
But the general images on the clock, you know, coming to this confirms for them.
In Jesus needs
agency of
digit, of course.
Historically, anytime This happens when individually the
Catholic Church of that person died or even during the person's lifetime, will declare that person to be a saint
about 15 years ago in America,
black American Girl
Guess what? She wasn't famous.
Anyway.
The point is
that
whether it's movies
or from indoors,
or it's from Christianity, in the end, it relates back to the inability, their inability to conceive of God.
And
we don't have any problem
before
God created the world.
God commanded it to me.
This is our meeting.
Now,
there is a question
which usually is raised
concerning this
In defense,
raised by both Christian and Hindu fathers who believe that God became man,
the question is,
isn't that able to do often?
throw that out, you know, Jesus was the God.
And he says
that he wants to
we know in the class a lot says in the law.
Very, very, a lot
to do all
usually back up against the wall, I have to admit
this is their argument.
But actually,
this is
a mistaken understanding on our own part.
Because we shouldn't have answers to them. Yes.
We have to qualify that.
It's not just a blanket, yes, yes, I was able to do it
disqualified.
Because when a law describes the heritage of leaving that alive,
Bunny
is not befitting that he has
the fifth God that he has.
So, what is what is referred to here is that
when we say alive, Able to do all things
we do not include in that statement, absurdity,
the absurdity, the things which are nonsensical.
things which are totally logical contradict, of
that same person was said,
in order to deal with this further test, you
can do all this in JavaScript. So I could do all things. Well,
do you believe that God,
you believe that God is
without beginning,
you believe that God
does doesn't die
is no beginning or end This is part of the generally accepted definition of God's eternal,
eternally living without beginning or end.
So that's, that's a personal
stock
just said that God what God is doing is now beginning.
What happens is that this is what the atheist philosophers used to do to mess up the minds of Christian theologians, they would come to them
to believe that God is Able to do all things.
But we know
a stone which is too heavy represents
the illusion that it's spinning.
He needs to say yes
to all
logical, you know, he says,
the stone is greater than God.
Same kind of rationalization we bring to the
gods born.
God means Why would
God die.
So, the is that all the things like them are the absurdity that are not included. When we say God is able to do
included with that is God becoming man
that is among the outside
Because God, the Creator,
the creator, who is created
and created because
then it was created,
beginning on created eternal,
He is the Creator.
So for God to become a man,
man is created
by the creation
in need of a creator.
a contradiction in terms.
How can the creator become his creation? They became his creation, he would be
the one who created them was
the contradiction. So, it is an absurdity.
So, proposed or to suppose that God could become
absurd. Similarly, God having authority.
So, can
you explain to them in simple, very basic terms you tell them listen,
when a cat
has a baby,
called a kitten, now, they a little gap.
When a cow
has a baby, we call a cow, which is a little cow
with a man,
child and little man, big man, look, man.
What do you call that?
You're already putting it in there, too.
All of these concepts really, what it does, is it is making God's life, his creation,
making God like his creation.
This is the essence of you're trying to conceive of God. This is why the Christian way wants to argue with you about the Trinity wants to defend the Trinity said
God
shall
there's the light of day.
But it's why
three guards in one
way
or the other. Let's say God is like a tree tree.
The tree has branches
and has roots in the ground. Once rainbow Rose has these three parts that make up the tree.
God life is
all part of that inability to conceive of God beyond creation.
Related to that also is the concept of the intermediary
intermediary between man and God.
Prayers sent through
Jesus
or
through
the idle
citizens focusing their prayers,
in your
prayers through our tools
or the safe
when they want to explain this to you about the need for prayer through Jesus in Jesus's name.
They explain it this way.
If you want to go and meet the Prime Minister,
we
go down to Downing Street and knock on the door and
you have to go to the MP or Member of Parliament and we will work your way through to get to the empty you have to go through other channels in the party and eventually your word will be carried
Same way, no,
it was sin.
All these sins everything, how can you then try to communicate with God? God,
you must go through a pure soul of Jesus,
or Muhammad
or a saint,
of course.
So,
an intermediate
say, what caused them to get into that,
trying to conceive of God in terms of his creation, either as human beings
or for forces of nature.
The concept of God becoming men.
And the crux of the matter in our discussions with non Muslims.
Of course, you dealing with atheists or whatever, then, this is only specifically for those who believe in God, whether they're Hindus, whether they're Christian, the crux of the matter is to tackle the issue of God becoming man, why do they have to be Why do you have to believe that God
and you believe as a man one time
to say became men
once you open that door,
so, we have to look at the issue, why do you have to believe in the first place and
then tackling that, to show them that it really in fact, is an absurdity and absurd concept, and it relates back to the their inability to grasp God creating from nothing.
That's the starting point. And that is the
God who creates from nothing.
That is that after the creation is unique to God,
only God creates
all of our creations are always manipulations of things existing.
That is unique.
That's what we have to recognize. He has a beginning that is unique, all of the things
he doesn't die as unique all the things that
he does
that is unique as the forest the tree has the five pillars Yes.
Integration available price is something that is a pure unity without having parts nowadays the things that happen with it and they got down with
electrons protons and neutrons, okay.
Final particle neutrinos
they went to the smallest particle
you know every
everything inside is made up of other things.
There is nothing in the creation of pure
joy you
have no beginning or end
summary of topic topics as I said it is geared towards
those who
becomes or became
shed some light on how to tackle this tricky subject.
Back up against the wall, same
thing
right here
how to deal with
block
sizes
very exciting to watch
Some
questions, we'll try to get through as much as possible.
question which is very relevant to
the people who claim that was worse?
What do we tell them?
To find the
same thing
with philosophical Hindus, the average indo European languages, because I believe,
like Abraham 500 people,
the Hindu guru will tell you this, we're not worshipping, actual image.
It's only for the focus of worship.
We have to ask him, what about
focusing,
closes? Oh, no, no, he knows their favorite form of their puppies and
Vishnu is
a new app
called Lino, and they worship in
the carrying around in your milk over the top of this
major Banaras has come for years and worship.
What kind of focus
out of focus
saying,
you know, you're there you are, there's a
lot
to cover.
You know, this is only for an organization.
Our worship involves standing boundaries.
If we didn't have one unified direction in which we pray
to each other and
everything in order, we're all in the same direction and
it's for ordering direction. And to prove it to you.
Do they open the door and they're going
to go open up your idol go preset level.
And the backfire the Kaabah, you know, which is indicated by the semicircular wall.
Here they call the hidden smile,
is actually an extension of the collar, the original cover included all of that
time and they ended up with a few forms, it doesn't run out of money, and couldn't finish it. So they just put the wall there to indicate the remainder. So when you go, that's why when you're making a wall, you're not allowed to go between the cover and
the wall is an open door, if you wanted to walk through it, it would not be considered incorrect, you must go on the outside of it, because inside there is considered part of the people
and the actual cabinet itself.
So without people going.
So we say this is clever data set, this only represents a direction for fair organization of worship purposes. And it is not an object of worship. In fact,
one of the signs of the last day, Ethiopian was skinny legs and
we'll go to Mecca, and break down the GABA. What's going to happen as Nina was to stop the COVID broken down
two questions relating to the Jews, one is can you please explain the shift?
And then the other question which is similar in your books, the fundamental
difference also form of idolatry.
A small minority,
but just the issue of, of shifting their worship, it is in their representations of God's
God for them in their service.
Yeah, he is. He does what they want him to do. You know, they described him in the in the Old Testament as repenting for
Do you talk to do about repenting proposing to them?
asking their forgiveness? In the towel? Would he ask permission from the rabbi? Can we do this? Can I do that?
The God of Israel is the deadline and does whatever they wanted to do.
So this is where
they portray God, not only as a human being the Garden of Eden, I am hearing his footsteps.
Besides all these silly kind of portrayals of God, they do make their sermon by giving an action and so human beings weaker than themselves.
Now, the question is,
Is that enough? We know Islam fully, or we need to know the beliefs of other people in detail what helps you?
Well, the most important thing is to know is
because if we don't know that people believe,
what we're able to tell them, what the flowers and they will listen to us.
That's, that's good enough. Ultimately, we know Islam properly, we can explain without questions, and then this is the fundamental, most important because that will save them and it will say why
I would not advise anybody, you know, to specialize and you know, the that documents and all the different reading of all the different religions, and they neglect their own knowledge and
but having studied and you know, gotten a good solid foundation for a person involved in Dallas is important to know something of the beliefs of the people that you're dealing with. Because the dye, the propagator is like a doctor,
a doctor, when a patient walks in the door, doesn't start writing the prescription right away. Although I did experience this when I was
supposed to
no proper doctor
to find out what's wrong with you.
And cetera, then he will give you this suitable
method to deal with your sickness. So the same way the diet functions like this, you know, whenever it is possible, you should find out what the people are thinking, what is on their mind, what is their, you know,
what are their problems? What is the issue, what has brought them to the point that they're, that they're in right now. And by understanding that, then you can give them the necessary or the suitable remedy to qualify for them. But
there's another question relating to the moment from
And apparently, they're very heavily subsidized this data for two years. spread that around, so could you enlighten us a bit about them?
And also the fact that
they work?
Because, although that's been modified already.
Yeah, it's been it's been corrected, you know, there are
they're the elders who run their organizations, the prophets. They receive revelation. Because, you know, early Mormons, they were polygamist in the wild, and they would have like 20 3040
even till today, because still wasn't, didn't submit to the changes, right? In about
30 or so. government and government threatened to take away statehood from them take over the state, unless they cancel this politically. So shortly after that, the elders received revelation.
Capital, some of their followers, they didn't agree
with this one, right. So they just kept on going.
Back in Canada, I saw some programs that I interviewed with Mormons 1314 different lives. And here's the
second is running a factory otherwise aren't working everything is just the administrator.
So,
they have been a few things have been modified changed. Similarly, this idea of blacks and blacks could not become
elders or could not become even
ministers there was a minister and but they couldn't reach this stage. There could only be followers and they
Wouldn't be included our particular mouse involved in which the names of all the warmers are catching on.
their marriages are kept intact for the next life and you're looking at
a similar thing now.
So they had received the revelation
of the curse,
the curse
of ham right on the son of
Noah.
And the town would actually go about being pressed to be the hewers of wood and the drawers of water for his brothers.
But there's nothing in the Bible that says
adaption.
But, of course,
but I'm saying that there's been typically putting on that for the How might end up being in their biblical history and and that type
of question, and could you please clarify whether
one particular form of finance
I would not imagine that she accepted
the principle of finance thought by socialism, he did speak about people who, in amongst the Sophie's who are hearing a lot of names, you know, fell into a faith that would go unconscious, right? I mean, he's, he didn't,
you know, prohibited, but, he pointed out that this was not
a better state or a superior state something to be sought, he pointed out that this was a weakness on their part, because the Sahaba were not known to do this, a lot of them was mentioned nobody was faced with a lot of them was mentioned, you know, there was
established the, you know, to the end.
So, identify some of these things, there are certain aspects of Sufism, not because he went through and was exposed to Sufi teachings with everybody in those days, and everybody, welcome to part of your normal training scholars. These are how often they're named, though, they would have
to indicate they're
gonna have to indicate their philosophical methods and then
to indicate there
may be a series of events. So, it was very common
majority of the scholars
in the course of their learning what they realized was left behind.
But where there was certain good even tenure that is, because this was our the Jamia was there, whenever there was some, some deviation or some error, where there is good he would give credit to the point where there was wrongly identified as being wrong and seek to correct it. This is amongst people who have not gone outside of
people who still remain amongst the middle who had incorrect ideas.
It's another question
particularly relevant to how to approach to
profit.
As a general principle, there is no one way
there is no one way to approach this is going to vary from person to person from family to family.
The point is that one has to have some kind of relationship with the people we're trying to communicate with some kind of openness and they're willing to accept
as well as openness is there which can be built through friendships through doing treating people kindly, etc, etc. Once we have that relationship, then they can be introduced
to
two different
statements of
statements of the law. Also there are lectures done by some
scholars who speak their language
and are very effective in bringing their ideas across so you can get to them. Listen to
another question.
Do you think the sheer worship a man will unlock for themselves
Well this year as a group in general, they have given the attributes of a law to the amount
they've got actually Christian step, further
vested with the
Office of papacy, people often
hear becomes infallible.
But
Catholics, this is a book on the market called a bad
one want to raise the question about this infallibility, get that book all the bad
stuff historical stuff that the folks were involved in, you know, all kinds of fornication and corruption and yeah, really, wow.
Anyway, for the Catholics, you know, the pope when he becomes the Pope, comes in power, make
mistake guided by the Holy Spirit's God's representative on Earth.
For the
they go, the Catholics, one better they have 12
as an include Fatima is number 13.
These are the Italians.
But they go beyond that of this. The Catholic Catholic
wedding received the opposite
was for the amount they are infallible from birth
incapable of any error, either inwardly or outwardly.
Accidentally.
Totally
given the actions
of
Adam,
Adam.
So, given the
status of your accountability salability
sorry to address that some other time, maybe in the panel session or something to bring that up to more questions actually shooting over time.
Too much, is there a special way of handling the Jehovah Witnesses because they tend to be the most difficult and consistent
with
Joel was witnesses.
Anyway, jovis witness
there's different ways,
if you are familiar with their background, their history, and you can point out that there are leaders that predicted that the world was going to end in 19.
And this is why they got many followers in the beginning.
Because they were what they call a millennial
are talking about the end of the world is
around the corner 1970s was the sort of thing that back in about 80
years away, so 1970s everybody was waking
up
to productive, then the remainder they need a new tax year. explanation. Oh, as was, you know, Jesus came down to the lower heavens.
Then again, they said another day 30 something
the waiting for?
About four or five times, finally, a few years back, they came up because one of their solutions that our calculations went right, you know, we're making these calculations when the Greek word laughter isn't Hebrew and it's a new calculation. Isn't this the most frequent that didn't work? Finally, given up on it?
You know, you know, God knows. So they finally dropped it. But there is both this five times the set dates for the end of the world, which didn't happen.
Okay, last question. Some of this applies everywhere. Can you talk about this subject, elaborate
I think given a short space of time is not really
to be the topic of this
panel session and the detail after which can be found out this whole chapter in my book called the fundamentals of tawheed, which is available here called
tendency and along
with all the arguments in support
of violence and
progress will be used in the bookshop between now and
of course in that area. And the other question, I do apologize for not going through and don't take it at one moment necessarily better than the other