Did God Become Man?

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Our last

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topic

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is God commands.

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This particular topic is

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my opinion,

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what the dialogue has,

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when it has to tackle and make clear

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when

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we told him

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to tell people about

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the issue of design,

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in

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totality,

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but much of what the message of so he

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addresses is also addressed

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these gods

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because

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when we look at all of the various religions around the world,

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and we look at Islam and the unique concept that Islam has of God,

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we'll find that

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the vast majority of the religions

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are tipped over this point

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of God.

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People worship the creation,

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instead of the Creator.

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And

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by nature,

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they tend

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to worship

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what they perceive as being their highest form of nature,

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which is not

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even when they are worshipping other beings in creation,

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you will find there is a link between man and then

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and then worshiping man ultimate

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man worship. And so

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now,

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if we take for granted

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that the belief

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held by major religions,

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about God

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is generally

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we can say that, again,

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that

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held in Islam

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is unique amongst the views of God.

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It's unique not only in a concept, how God is perceived, but also in the fact that

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the concept of God has not evolved.

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God

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was God

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and remains

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unchanged.

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We believe

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as Muslims, that

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the understanding of God

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as Prophet Muhammad

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brought

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was not a new understanding

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social anthropologists

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a way of explaining that monotheism evolved.

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Having concluded

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that

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men

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originally came from an ape like ancestor

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concept, psychology, psychology

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They're all sharing this general concept

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that

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they evolve from the same source.

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And we don't find a worshiping God.

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As far as they can proceed, then they concluded that

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man created God that God is a figment of man's imagination.

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Some of them Freud, Durkheim and others, their proposed theories as to how the man arrived at

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the worship or the creation of the concept of God

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put forth

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the idea coming out of the industrial complex,

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where wearing, he creates a scenario saying that the early human be

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man,

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white woman, children,

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that the children, the male children

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may love their mother, and were jealous of the Father.

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And, in their jealousy,

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they killed their father.

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Now, the father was the provider went out,

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to provide

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the ones they killed that that no provided

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no

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one was looking out for them. So, they created the imaginary head

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would provide and protect

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modern

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psychiatry and psychology

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we're going

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to go No,

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each school has its own explanation as to how

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things evolved, but began.

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So, the idea is is a social anthropologist when they analyze religion as a whole, if they evolved,

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early man, when he saw around him the forces of nature, nice

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funding,

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earthquake

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forces of nature.

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Here it is in theorems.

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And

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in his tribal circumstance,

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tribe,

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the user the strongest,

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the most powerful,

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beat up everybody else, everybody has to submit to Him. So, when he does, then, before they all used to go out and hunt, because he is the strongest, he does that, he thinks of everybody else, they have to go out and hunt, when they run, they take some for their family, they must take some to him,

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their offerings to him,

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when his pleasure

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is pleased with them.

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So, this is the beginning of the idea of the offerings to the gods.

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So in the same way as the rationalized

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travel achieved, by offering giving offerings,

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then

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these powerful forces of nature.

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Now, they

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gave images of being some kind of gods, they will try to appease them by making the sacrifice offered to the lightning garden.

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And in the early days, and all the various, but there are many tribes and each tribe has its own version of these gods who the gods will have been applied.

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And they would, you know, make images usually which were a human like images.

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Now, as prions came in contact with other tribes,

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certain tribes was overcome with defeat and beat up the other tribe. Kill them in slavery or women, take their children several things, or make them as fat hold on to them

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or whatever.

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What would happen

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Is that this particular tribe that has beaten up these other tribes and defeated them and gain control over them,

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their gods, there was give up and accept the gods of this conquering tribe.

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Because these the gods in the tribe of the real God, that they help that everybody else is more powerful.

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So, as time is progressing, now, the from tribes from individual families, tribes are being formed, and tribes are trading into nations as they conquer other tribes. In that process, the number of gods are decreasing,

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decreasing

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till they reach the point of,

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to God,

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which is the example given

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to people they decrease the number of dogs.

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And then eventually, the last step from that was to go through

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the process of evolution.

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And then they take examples of people that are out in the world today and use them as examples of the different stages.

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They take the North American Indian, and other tribal people. So, I name is called an Africa, South America, and up in different parts of the world, we have people, they worship, nature and the forces of nature.

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Then, they go to the Indian Hindus show the Hindus, they have First of all, God, many, many, many, many family as an

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example of passage, then they go down to this duel, this is the perfect

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opportunity

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to have a lot of good and evil, like

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fire symbolical design of life.

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And then

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Judaism and Christianity as an example of arriving at monotheism,

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of course, why this is nonsensical?

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Because,

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like the people tries to prove evolution, they have a theory already,

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which they've now gone into circumstances and just put evidence to support their theory.

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But actually, if one looks at the history, it's not like that.

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There was a time in Egypt.

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When Egyptians arrived at the worship of one God,

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that rock,

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solid,

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I forgotten the name of this particular Harold.

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He is the one he and his period of time, it was about the worship of one God.

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To him, they were the worship of Allah.

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And if we look at the stage, from Judaism to Christianity, we don't see

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polytheism to monotheism, what we see is monotheism or polytheism.

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Jews believe in one God could be made in three

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directions, as corruption.

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So the Islamic view is that Adam believed in one God.

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This was the same the need for Abraham, Moses, etc, etc, right down below.

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And that's, it was people deviating from the teachings of the Prophet that produce these beliefs and others. Sometimes they degenerate into polytheism, animism where they worship nature. Sometimes it's generated to try theism, like that as a Christian,

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or to dualism like that of the parties.

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that these are just varying shades of degeneration have

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deviated from the main

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concept of God.

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as presented by Islam in the final form,

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we believe was not an evolved concept, but a constant concept held by Abraham and Mohammed,

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abundance, and an all those in between. Now if we look at the major religions in the world today,

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usually when people get to look at the major religions that have Gods

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they included

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Unlike

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I mean, if the world population is

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some 3.5 4 billion people, and the Jewish total population is someplace around

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the point in looking at

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nothing

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else

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the numbers of Hindus

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the number

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is the number 100 million. So we're gonna look at world religions, look at

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look at

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the Christians

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and look at Muslims.

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So, as we look at Christianity,

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Hinduism

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in Hinduism,

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as a concept, that everything

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of

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everything

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they have a dual principle which they call Aquaman. Batman

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refers to the self or the soul, the self evolving

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refers to the universal soul

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that

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is when the individual

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self,

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individual human beings, animals, everything, this is a part of brightness.

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So, in the end, what you're saying is that, everything is really

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what they portray is that, right,

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from God,

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human beings

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came in to be some came into being from his head, this is the Brahmin class, upper got

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some from his arms and body, some from his legs and the top of his feet.

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At the very bottom,

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untouchables coming after them.

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Size is divided up into cost, depending on which part of god

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they're beneath, is that

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human beings strive

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to

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reach a stage where he becomes one with God again, the end of the whole process is life is a life on a week. We love reincarnation, when he dies, he is reincarnated. He comes back into the life again, now the body

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is your goal in this life, karma, good karma. Then when he is reborn, he moves up a notch.

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These are the

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four major costs but then they're

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not buying us.

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Good boy. Now, if you weren't good, then you may be reborn as a lizard

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or a dog or

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some other animal.

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This is why loads are very strict to vegetarian is what it's about, because you may be eating your grandfather

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is there This is also why suicide for them is really easy.

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We are a huge portion of Hindus are working. And although every day you read a newspaper, some indoors either a noose around the ceiling Finally, you know they find them in their life their life gets tough

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to try

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easy for them to just come back

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there

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people you know working your way up the ladder

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and in any race development class.

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Then when you die at that point, you really are reabsorbed by ROM as well. So this is a call

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And in Buddhism, it's called Nirvana.

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At that point, you become

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one with

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the universal gods.

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So, their whole religion

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philosophically

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requires men to realize that he in fact,

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and all of the so called New Wave, religious stuff of the New Age, religion, new age,

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people like Shirley MacLaine and others that are involved,

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variety of different versions of the New Age, religion. All of this goes back to this idea of

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realizing that you are reincarnation.

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You get hypnotized go back to your previous life. My previous life I was resistant adapted and all these stories that they're really

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all of this back to the idea of reincarnation, and that man, fundamentally.

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Now,

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at the same time, that they have this basic

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concept of universal God, and his powers as a preserver,

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destroyer, as the creator

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attributes of God, they portray as different gods separate.

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And this is where you get the so called Hindu Trinity.

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Now among them one of the most popular of the gods

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is Vishnu.

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And Vishnu, they believe,

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becomes incarnate at different points. In

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the incarnation, they called avatar.

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avatar means God met

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God.

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From time to time, the different individual claims that their avatars rules which have certain states to claim.

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But traditionally,

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they believe that there were 10 major appearances of Vishnu

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you know, in

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creative form, false creations.

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They give them a variety of different names, appearances, and they're related to the forum.

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Just to give you an idea of the kind of things that they're talking about, one of the first appearance of Vishnu is called matsya.

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Vishnu appearing as a fish

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the fish takes on all the characteristics and systems represented an efficient becomes an object of worship.

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He also became manifest

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or entirely as korma, which is a thought.

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So,

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becomes formed for God's worship.

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And then

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you know,

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the wild pig

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and the rise of the half lion out man and then you hear of Rama, Krishna,

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Hari Krishna,

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Rama

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and Krishna is represent human

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incarnation.

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Now,

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the concept here is of God becoming man.

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In Christianity,

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there is

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a similar concept.

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No, it doesn't promote the idea of God being everything.

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In fact, they consider this to be pantheism and they reject.

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They do promote the idea that the human soul is divine.

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As the general health of the human soul is divine,

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but in specific terms of God becoming men,

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this is expressed

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in the concept of Jesus

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was a man

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and express in the Gospels and john in particular, the beginning of which in which it says In the beginning was the word

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and the Word was with God,

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and the Word what

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goes on, and the Word became flesh, and dwelt among men.

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philosophical

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presentation of God becoming that now, the term which is used for words, in the

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particular gospel.

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And if you go back to the Greek philosophy,

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and look at their

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concept of God, under the universal soul like being

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reflected on itself and his thoughts became other beings and below that

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plays the role of the intermediary between the universal God and man.

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And

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the problem

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the problem is understanding how

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God

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could create from nothing

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because human beings

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in our world, when we create,

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what we do is we actually manipulate

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when we make tables,

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we are manipulating the woods, we have cut down the tree and shape it in here, you know, we melt some rocks because iron McNeil screwed together. So we're manipulating nature we're making and creating things, from things that already existed.

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So, they find themselves in a situation where they cannot conceive of how God would create

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from nothing. So the easy way to understand is of God creating

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himself

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as he took himself to make the creation. That's why he ended up in some of their classes, he's been inside of everything. And it was all philosophy actually, the ancient Greeks,

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Plato in particular,

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that human beings represented, portions of God, which we're trapped in matters, and that the purpose of life here was to realize that that portion, size matter was actually gone. And that we would do a series of exercises,

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you know, spiritual, philosophical, logical exercise, we will do to liberate our spirits from

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the material body. So, spirits can rejoin, with

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its origin gods.

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Now,

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this idea,

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coming from both the Hindu Channel,

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as well as the Greek philosophical channel,

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ended up amongst

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a large portion of

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subscribe to a set of videos, which are

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grouped together under the general heading of Sufism.

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What you find

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in the various branches of Sufism

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is that

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the efforts and the purpose of life for the Sufi is

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his disappearance in God becoming one again with life.

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And the various exercises that they described, various today. Each one has their own set of exercises that you do.

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Some of them it's just repetition. Some of them involve moving your head certain ways I'm involved in reading their wishes.

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Write a different form.

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They believe that these different exercises will help you to liberate yourself from the material and allow your divine portion to become again, one with

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rocks,

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of course, has been cloaked in Islamic terminology. And even verses from a crime have been drawn out support.

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They will point and say, Well, you know, a law says, when he created Adam,

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and Adam,

00:30:51--> 00:30:55

Adam Spirit, the Spirit was inside of Adam was a part of a lot of spirits.

00:31:00--> 00:31:03

Of course, human beings came out to sign a piece of

00:31:05--> 00:31:06

a piece of a lie.

00:31:09--> 00:31:11

Of course, this argument

00:31:12--> 00:31:13

is a false argument.

00:31:15--> 00:31:16

In my book,

00:31:17--> 00:31:25

fundamentals of tawheed, has gone into detail and broken apart and sure that summary that's what a lot

00:31:28--> 00:31:29

of the Spirit

00:31:30--> 00:31:32

This is not taken, literally.

00:31:35--> 00:31:40

That actually blew a portion of his own spirits into Adam.

00:31:41--> 00:31:43

Because we don't believe that a lost

00:31:45--> 00:31:46

spirit is created.

00:31:53--> 00:31:55

Buy a lot of commodity,

00:31:56--> 00:31:57

commodity and spirits a

00:31:59--> 00:32:01

lot of noise a lot.

00:32:03--> 00:32:05

Create leaks. So

00:32:06--> 00:32:09

speaking about blowing, that

00:32:10--> 00:32:17

gave us in a variety of different ideas, the angels, Blue Angels, but a lot of firsts with

00:32:18--> 00:32:25

this as a means of showing the special quality of the Spirit entering into an ultimate divine command, just like he said,

00:32:28--> 00:32:29

when I can allow

00:32:31--> 00:32:34

records from before the Battle of others, he picked up from

00:32:36--> 00:32:43

the enemy was hundreds of yards away on the opposite side of the valley, and he threw the stand up.

00:32:45--> 00:32:48

And they reported afterwards, before the battle, they all said

00:32:53--> 00:32:58

a lot of hard to reach them. So alive describes the throwing of the profits as his

00:33:01--> 00:33:02

and that

00:33:03--> 00:33:06

when I refer to it as spirits,

00:33:09--> 00:33:11

Allah uses the reference of him

00:33:14--> 00:33:16

to elevate

00:33:18--> 00:33:23

the status of some parts of his creation, just as the law refers to

00:33:24--> 00:33:39

the capital of profit, as now the law, the law of kamma nobody gets an image in his mind that this is a law of capital, meaning literally, you know, I thought I had the camera you have a camera like

00:33:42--> 00:33:44

a lot of difference with his his cameras.

00:33:46--> 00:33:49

showing that this camera is a special camera amongst the cameras and

00:33:51--> 00:33:53

similarly, he refers to

00:33:55--> 00:34:16

gibreel as the spiritual and supermario refers so this terminology when a lot of repressed and things have been hidden, there's no sometimes you're forced to fight them is creation, that he has a noble calling it is. Sometimes it literally refers to itself about mercy.

00:34:18--> 00:34:33

You know, of course, this is not in that same context with the law refers to His mercy, talking about the law, but when he talks about his cattle, talks about his Earth, and His Prophet, then is referring to parts of his creation that

00:34:34--> 00:34:42

is the proper understanding of this verse. However, the plaster remains that from this concept,

00:34:45--> 00:34:45

the

00:34:46--> 00:34:47

Sufi

00:34:48--> 00:34:51

Sufi movements, mystical movements,

00:34:53--> 00:34:59

promoted the idea of everything being a law, lobbying everything people can become a lot

00:35:01--> 00:35:03

And the most famous individual among them

00:35:05--> 00:35:05

was one of the

00:35:07--> 00:35:08

saints in the hierarchy.

00:35:16--> 00:35:21

When he was there, that was a lot of thing. And on top,

00:35:22--> 00:35:23

of course, the largest first

00:35:24--> 00:35:25

one was

00:35:26--> 00:35:27

fundamental

00:35:28--> 00:35:31

design here. And when he was

00:35:32--> 00:35:33

asked to recap

00:35:34--> 00:35:43

of the four cardinal of Muslim judges, and again, this sister almost never opened his garments and said, there's nothing inside this garment except

00:35:47--> 00:35:48

in his book called,

00:35:50--> 00:35:56

he writes, if he's not recognize God, at least recognize the signs.

00:35:57--> 00:35:58

I am the creative truth.

00:36:00--> 00:36:02

Because through the truth, I'm eternal.

00:36:04--> 00:36:07

My friends and teachers are believed and Pharaoh

00:36:13--> 00:36:15

is where the teachers I read the

00:36:17--> 00:36:19

article saying what you know.

00:36:21--> 00:36:26

He said his lease was threatened by the Hellfire Yes, he did not recant.

00:36:28--> 00:36:41

Pharaohs drowned in the sea, and did nothing can we acknowledge nothing between himself and God. And I although I am killed and crucified, though my hands and feet are cut off. And

00:36:43--> 00:36:45

so what do you say?

00:36:46--> 00:36:53

You saying here that it leaves when a lot of soul agrees to bow to Adam.

00:36:57--> 00:37:02

He didn't recognize Adam as being God a god.

00:37:04--> 00:37:06

This is this is the act of telling.

00:37:09--> 00:37:12

This was no reiterating his belief in

00:37:13--> 00:37:14

a review

00:37:15--> 00:37:16

and zero

00:37:21--> 00:37:22

type

00:37:23--> 00:37:28

parents are recognizing that there's no God Besides, he and God are one.

00:37:31--> 00:37:31

And of course,

00:37:33--> 00:37:34

you know, when they

00:37:39--> 00:37:44

found these individuals is totally undefended. It took him out and cut his head off.

00:37:45--> 00:37:46

And if you read in the books,

00:37:49--> 00:37:51

they will describe the miracles

00:37:52--> 00:37:56

when his head was cut off, it rolled on the ground.

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So for now, this is just

00:38:08--> 00:38:09

confirmation of that.

00:38:11--> 00:38:12

You know, it's like,

00:38:13--> 00:38:15

in the time of Hollywood,

00:38:16--> 00:38:22

when, because some of the companions or some of the people who were claiming to be his followers,

00:38:24--> 00:38:26

activity to him divinity.

00:38:28--> 00:38:30

Right, this was introduced by

00:38:34--> 00:38:34

Jewish

00:38:35--> 00:38:37

supposedly convert to Islam from Yemen,

00:38:39--> 00:38:41

when he caught some of them who they're giving him

00:38:43--> 00:38:44

a lot. And

00:38:45--> 00:38:46

he

00:38:47--> 00:38:48

set on fire.

00:38:51--> 00:38:54

Kill them by burning them alive.

00:38:55--> 00:39:04

When they were signed up on the birth, they said, Now we know for certain that you are online, because only allow polishes requires

00:39:08--> 00:39:10

that same kind of state of affairs.

00:39:11--> 00:39:12

So

00:39:14--> 00:39:15

I mean,

00:39:16--> 00:39:19

in terms of highlighting heads rolling, and saying,

00:39:20--> 00:39:22

I mean, it's not really a problem.

00:39:23--> 00:39:30

No, it's true. It's not mythologies that they made up. There was 210 rolls and kept saying,

00:39:33--> 00:39:34

because the law tells us

00:39:36--> 00:39:36

the story of

00:39:39--> 00:39:41

reflect back on that story.

00:39:42--> 00:39:43

That story,

00:39:44--> 00:39:44

when prompted

00:39:46--> 00:39:49

to receive the commandment and he left behind

00:39:52--> 00:39:59

and a salary amongst them, got the people to melt their gold, and he made this cop. He claims he saw

00:40:00--> 00:40:05

An angel walk in a pickup truck from the footprint of Angeles to London

00:40:06--> 00:40:07

in the mix, right?

00:40:10--> 00:40:15

When the calf was formed, and the people stood before the cow, the cow said,

00:40:20--> 00:40:26

people are dropped down into June, you know, our business got to the top was mind blowing,

00:40:28--> 00:40:30

was the cop actually going to

00:40:34--> 00:40:48

the gym can go inside the coffin, make the sounds. And I'm sure you're all familiar with the phenomenon last year of Ganesh, right. The elephants had gone of the Hindus,

00:40:49--> 00:40:58

all over India, this elephant has gone who they normally know the part of their rituals, worship and rituals, they they pour milk over the gods

00:41:00--> 00:41:06

and reports in the mouth for down the side, but one day,

00:41:07--> 00:41:10

more in the milk in the mouth of the elephant had got

00:41:13--> 00:41:13

drinking,

00:41:15--> 00:41:18

drinking all over India, even in the Bay Area.

00:41:20--> 00:41:26

And he was there enough to see what I hear in England here he was drinking milk up here too. So

00:41:30--> 00:41:32

it's just not a whole lot going on behind the

00:41:34--> 00:41:38

scenes like that. But if it is real, if there is reality,

00:41:39--> 00:41:54

understanding the jinn origin outbreaks, not a problem, to understand these kinds of phenomena, because the jinn can interfere in our world in this fashion. Among the Christians, you know, they have what is known as stigmata.

00:41:55--> 00:41:59

stigmata is that every year around this time,

00:42:01--> 00:42:04

over the centuries, Around this time, Easter,

00:42:05--> 00:42:11

there are some Christians who will start to appear in the middle of their costs.

00:42:13--> 00:42:15

In the middle of their problems, and their feet.

00:42:18--> 00:42:19

Sometimes around the hips

00:42:25--> 00:42:26

come from

00:42:27--> 00:42:32

confirming this is Jesus on the cross he had the nails in this

00:42:34--> 00:42:34

even though

00:42:35--> 00:42:38

you know, a number of Christians

00:42:39--> 00:42:42

argue that really wasn't there and his arms were tied.

00:42:44--> 00:42:49

But the general images on the clock, you know, coming to this confirms for them.

00:42:53--> 00:42:54

In Jesus needs

00:42:58--> 00:42:59

agency of

00:43:01--> 00:43:03

digit, of course.

00:43:04--> 00:43:08

Historically, anytime This happens when individually the

00:43:11--> 00:43:17

Catholic Church of that person died or even during the person's lifetime, will declare that person to be a saint

00:43:21--> 00:43:24

about 15 years ago in America,

00:43:26--> 00:43:27

black American Girl

00:43:29--> 00:43:31

Guess what? She wasn't famous.

00:43:35--> 00:43:36

Anyway.

00:43:39--> 00:43:40

The point is

00:43:42--> 00:43:42

that

00:43:48--> 00:43:50

whether it's movies

00:43:51--> 00:43:55

or from indoors,

00:43:56--> 00:44:08

or it's from Christianity, in the end, it relates back to the inability, their inability to conceive of God.

00:44:16--> 00:44:17

And

00:44:25--> 00:44:26

we don't have any problem

00:44:32--> 00:44:33

before

00:44:34--> 00:44:36

God created the world.

00:44:39--> 00:44:40

God commanded it to me.

00:44:44--> 00:44:45

This is our meeting.

00:44:49--> 00:44:50

Now,

00:44:51--> 00:44:52

there is a question

00:44:54--> 00:44:56

which usually is raised

00:44:57--> 00:44:58

concerning this

00:45:00--> 00:45:00

In defense,

00:45:02--> 00:45:09

raised by both Christian and Hindu fathers who believe that God became man,

00:45:10--> 00:45:11

the question is,

00:45:13--> 00:45:15

isn't that able to do often?

00:45:22--> 00:45:25

throw that out, you know, Jesus was the God.

00:45:26--> 00:45:27

And he says

00:45:29--> 00:45:30

that he wants to

00:45:34--> 00:45:37

we know in the class a lot says in the law.

00:45:40--> 00:45:42

Very, very, a lot

00:45:43--> 00:45:44

to do all

00:45:47--> 00:45:50

usually back up against the wall, I have to admit

00:45:55--> 00:45:56

this is their argument.

00:45:58--> 00:45:59

But actually,

00:46:02--> 00:46:02

this is

00:46:04--> 00:46:07

a mistaken understanding on our own part.

00:46:09--> 00:46:11

Because we shouldn't have answers to them. Yes.

00:46:13--> 00:46:15

We have to qualify that.

00:46:16--> 00:46:19

It's not just a blanket, yes, yes, I was able to do it

00:46:21--> 00:46:22

disqualified.

00:46:24--> 00:46:29

Because when a law describes the heritage of leaving that alive,

00:46:32--> 00:46:32

Bunny

00:46:34--> 00:46:36

is not befitting that he has

00:46:40--> 00:46:42

the fifth God that he has.

00:46:46--> 00:46:49

So, what is what is referred to here is that

00:46:51--> 00:46:53

when we say alive, Able to do all things

00:46:56--> 00:47:01

we do not include in that statement, absurdity,

00:47:03--> 00:47:07

the absurdity, the things which are nonsensical.

00:47:08--> 00:47:12

things which are totally logical contradict, of

00:47:15--> 00:47:16

that same person was said,

00:47:18--> 00:47:21

in order to deal with this further test, you

00:47:22--> 00:47:26

can do all this in JavaScript. So I could do all things. Well,

00:47:27--> 00:47:30

do you believe that God,

00:47:31--> 00:47:34

you believe that God is

00:47:35--> 00:47:36

without beginning,

00:47:41--> 00:47:42

you believe that God

00:47:43--> 00:47:44

does doesn't die

00:47:46--> 00:47:53

is no beginning or end This is part of the generally accepted definition of God's eternal,

00:47:55--> 00:47:59

eternally living without beginning or end.

00:48:02--> 00:48:04

So that's, that's a personal

00:48:16--> 00:48:16

stock

00:48:19--> 00:48:24

just said that God what God is doing is now beginning.

00:48:29--> 00:48:37

What happens is that this is what the atheist philosophers used to do to mess up the minds of Christian theologians, they would come to them

00:48:40--> 00:48:42

to believe that God is Able to do all things.

00:48:44--> 00:48:44

But we know

00:48:47--> 00:48:49

a stone which is too heavy represents

00:48:52--> 00:48:53

the illusion that it's spinning.

00:48:56--> 00:48:57

He needs to say yes

00:48:59--> 00:49:00

to all

00:49:01--> 00:49:03

logical, you know, he says,

00:49:07--> 00:49:08

the stone is greater than God.

00:49:14--> 00:49:17

Same kind of rationalization we bring to the

00:49:19--> 00:49:20

gods born.

00:49:25--> 00:49:26

God means Why would

00:49:27--> 00:49:28

God die.

00:49:38--> 00:49:47

So, the is that all the things like them are the absurdity that are not included. When we say God is able to do

00:49:50--> 00:49:56

included with that is God becoming man

00:49:58--> 00:49:59

that is among the outside

00:50:01--> 00:50:03

Because God, the Creator,

00:50:06--> 00:50:08

the creator, who is created

00:50:11--> 00:50:12

and created because

00:50:13--> 00:50:14

then it was created,

00:50:16--> 00:50:20

beginning on created eternal,

00:50:21--> 00:50:23

He is the Creator.

00:50:24--> 00:50:27

So for God to become a man,

00:50:29--> 00:50:31

man is created

00:50:32--> 00:50:33

by the creation

00:50:34--> 00:50:36

in need of a creator.

00:50:37--> 00:50:39

a contradiction in terms.

00:50:42--> 00:50:49

How can the creator become his creation? They became his creation, he would be

00:50:52--> 00:50:53

the one who created them was

00:50:56--> 00:50:59

the contradiction. So, it is an absurdity.

00:51:00--> 00:51:05

So, proposed or to suppose that God could become

00:51:08--> 00:51:12

absurd. Similarly, God having authority.

00:51:17--> 00:51:18

So, can

00:51:19--> 00:51:22

you explain to them in simple, very basic terms you tell them listen,

00:51:25--> 00:51:26

when a cat

00:51:27--> 00:51:28

has a baby,

00:51:29--> 00:51:32

called a kitten, now, they a little gap.

00:51:34--> 00:51:35

When a cow

00:51:37--> 00:51:40

has a baby, we call a cow, which is a little cow

00:51:41--> 00:51:42

with a man,

00:51:44--> 00:51:46

child and little man, big man, look, man.

00:51:48--> 00:51:49

What do you call that?

00:51:58--> 00:52:00

You're already putting it in there, too.

00:52:08--> 00:52:15

All of these concepts really, what it does, is it is making God's life, his creation,

00:52:17--> 00:52:19

making God like his creation.

00:52:21--> 00:52:31

This is the essence of you're trying to conceive of God. This is why the Christian way wants to argue with you about the Trinity wants to defend the Trinity said

00:52:36--> 00:52:36

God

00:52:39--> 00:52:39

shall

00:52:41--> 00:52:42

there's the light of day.

00:52:47--> 00:52:48

But it's why

00:52:49--> 00:52:50

three guards in one

00:52:52--> 00:52:52

way

00:53:01--> 00:53:05

or the other. Let's say God is like a tree tree.

00:53:06--> 00:53:08

The tree has branches

00:53:12--> 00:53:18

and has roots in the ground. Once rainbow Rose has these three parts that make up the tree.

00:53:23--> 00:53:23

God life is

00:53:26--> 00:53:32

all part of that inability to conceive of God beyond creation.

00:53:36--> 00:53:40

Related to that also is the concept of the intermediary

00:53:42--> 00:53:44

intermediary between man and God.

00:53:45--> 00:53:47

Prayers sent through

00:53:49--> 00:53:50

Jesus

00:53:51--> 00:53:52

or

00:53:53--> 00:53:53

through

00:53:55--> 00:53:56

the idle

00:53:58--> 00:54:00

citizens focusing their prayers,

00:54:04--> 00:54:04

in your

00:54:05--> 00:54:08

prayers through our tools

00:54:12--> 00:54:13

or the safe

00:54:15--> 00:54:21

when they want to explain this to you about the need for prayer through Jesus in Jesus's name.

00:54:28--> 00:54:29

They explain it this way.

00:54:31--> 00:54:35

If you want to go and meet the Prime Minister,

00:54:36--> 00:54:37

we

00:54:39--> 00:54:41

go down to Downing Street and knock on the door and

00:54:45--> 00:54:57

you have to go to the MP or Member of Parliament and we will work your way through to get to the empty you have to go through other channels in the party and eventually your word will be carried

00:55:03--> 00:55:05

Same way, no,

00:55:06--> 00:55:07

it was sin.

00:55:09--> 00:55:15

All these sins everything, how can you then try to communicate with God? God,

00:55:16--> 00:55:19

you must go through a pure soul of Jesus,

00:55:20--> 00:55:21

or Muhammad

00:55:24--> 00:55:25

or a saint,

00:55:29--> 00:55:29

of course.

00:55:35--> 00:55:36

So,

00:55:37--> 00:55:38

an intermediate

00:55:43--> 00:55:46

say, what caused them to get into that,

00:55:47--> 00:55:54

trying to conceive of God in terms of his creation, either as human beings

00:55:55--> 00:55:57

or for forces of nature.

00:56:24--> 00:56:27

The concept of God becoming men.

00:56:29--> 00:56:34

And the crux of the matter in our discussions with non Muslims.

00:56:41--> 00:57:00

Of course, you dealing with atheists or whatever, then, this is only specifically for those who believe in God, whether they're Hindus, whether they're Christian, the crux of the matter is to tackle the issue of God becoming man, why do they have to be Why do you have to believe that God

00:57:02--> 00:57:05

and you believe as a man one time

00:57:06--> 00:57:07

to say became men

00:57:11--> 00:57:12

once you open that door,

00:57:15--> 00:57:20

so, we have to look at the issue, why do you have to believe in the first place and

00:57:21--> 00:57:37

then tackling that, to show them that it really in fact, is an absurdity and absurd concept, and it relates back to the their inability to grasp God creating from nothing.

00:57:39--> 00:57:42

That's the starting point. And that is the

00:57:44--> 00:57:46

God who creates from nothing.

00:57:47--> 00:57:50

That is that after the creation is unique to God,

00:57:52--> 00:57:53

only God creates

00:57:54--> 00:57:57

all of our creations are always manipulations of things existing.

00:58:01--> 00:58:02

That is unique.

00:58:04--> 00:58:09

That's what we have to recognize. He has a beginning that is unique, all of the things

00:58:12--> 00:58:15

he doesn't die as unique all the things that

00:58:16--> 00:58:17

he does

00:58:18--> 00:58:21

that is unique as the forest the tree has the five pillars Yes.

00:58:22--> 00:58:31

Integration available price is something that is a pure unity without having parts nowadays the things that happen with it and they got down with

00:58:33--> 00:58:35

electrons protons and neutrons, okay.

00:58:38--> 00:58:40

Final particle neutrinos

00:58:42--> 00:58:45

they went to the smallest particle

00:58:46--> 00:58:47

you know every

00:58:50--> 00:58:52

everything inside is made up of other things.

00:58:53--> 00:58:58

There is nothing in the creation of pure

00:59:01--> 00:59:01

joy you

00:59:03--> 00:59:05

have no beginning or end

00:59:16--> 00:59:20

summary of topic topics as I said it is geared towards

00:59:23--> 00:59:23

those who

00:59:26--> 00:59:27

becomes or became

00:59:32--> 00:59:36

shed some light on how to tackle this tricky subject.

00:59:37--> 00:59:39

Back up against the wall, same

00:59:41--> 00:59:41

thing

00:59:46--> 00:59:47

right here

00:59:51--> 00:59:52

how to deal with

00:59:53--> 00:59:53

block

00:59:56--> 00:59:56

sizes

00:59:58--> 00:59:59

very exciting to watch

01:00:00--> 01:00:00

Some

01:00:02--> 01:00:05

questions, we'll try to get through as much as possible.

01:00:07--> 01:00:09

question which is very relevant to

01:00:16--> 01:00:18

the people who claim that was worse?

01:00:19--> 01:00:20

What do we tell them?

01:00:22--> 01:00:22

To find the

01:00:24--> 01:00:24

same thing

01:00:26--> 01:00:32

with philosophical Hindus, the average indo European languages, because I believe,

01:00:38--> 01:00:40

like Abraham 500 people,

01:00:41--> 01:00:47

the Hindu guru will tell you this, we're not worshipping, actual image.

01:00:49--> 01:00:51

It's only for the focus of worship.

01:00:57--> 01:00:59

We have to ask him, what about

01:01:05--> 01:01:06

focusing,

01:01:07--> 01:01:13

closes? Oh, no, no, he knows their favorite form of their puppies and

01:01:15--> 01:01:16

Vishnu is

01:01:17--> 01:01:18

a new app

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called Lino, and they worship in

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the carrying around in your milk over the top of this

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major Banaras has come for years and worship.

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What kind of focus

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out of focus

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saying,

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you know, you're there you are, there's a

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lot

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to cover.

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You know, this is only for an organization.

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Our worship involves standing boundaries.

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If we didn't have one unified direction in which we pray

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to each other and

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everything in order, we're all in the same direction and

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it's for ordering direction. And to prove it to you.

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Do they open the door and they're going

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to go open up your idol go preset level.

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And the backfire the Kaabah, you know, which is indicated by the semicircular wall.

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Here they call the hidden smile,

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is actually an extension of the collar, the original cover included all of that

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time and they ended up with a few forms, it doesn't run out of money, and couldn't finish it. So they just put the wall there to indicate the remainder. So when you go, that's why when you're making a wall, you're not allowed to go between the cover and

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the wall is an open door, if you wanted to walk through it, it would not be considered incorrect, you must go on the outside of it, because inside there is considered part of the people

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and the actual cabinet itself.

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So without people going.

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So we say this is clever data set, this only represents a direction for fair organization of worship purposes. And it is not an object of worship. In fact,

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one of the signs of the last day, Ethiopian was skinny legs and

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we'll go to Mecca, and break down the GABA. What's going to happen as Nina was to stop the COVID broken down

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two questions relating to the Jews, one is can you please explain the shift?

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And then the other question which is similar in your books, the fundamental

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difference also form of idolatry.

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A small minority,

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but just the issue of, of shifting their worship, it is in their representations of God's

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God for them in their service.

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Yeah, he is. He does what they want him to do. You know, they described him in the in the Old Testament as repenting for

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Do you talk to do about repenting proposing to them?

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asking their forgiveness? In the towel? Would he ask permission from the rabbi? Can we do this? Can I do that?

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The God of Israel is the deadline and does whatever they wanted to do.

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So this is where

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they portray God, not only as a human being the Garden of Eden, I am hearing his footsteps.

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Besides all these silly kind of portrayals of God, they do make their sermon by giving an action and so human beings weaker than themselves.

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Now, the question is,

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Is that enough? We know Islam fully, or we need to know the beliefs of other people in detail what helps you?

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Well, the most important thing is to know is

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because if we don't know that people believe,

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what we're able to tell them, what the flowers and they will listen to us.

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That's, that's good enough. Ultimately, we know Islam properly, we can explain without questions, and then this is the fundamental, most important because that will save them and it will say why

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I would not advise anybody, you know, to specialize and you know, the that documents and all the different reading of all the different religions, and they neglect their own knowledge and

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but having studied and you know, gotten a good solid foundation for a person involved in Dallas is important to know something of the beliefs of the people that you're dealing with. Because the dye, the propagator is like a doctor,

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a doctor, when a patient walks in the door, doesn't start writing the prescription right away. Although I did experience this when I was

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supposed to

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no proper doctor

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to find out what's wrong with you.

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And cetera, then he will give you this suitable

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method to deal with your sickness. So the same way the diet functions like this, you know, whenever it is possible, you should find out what the people are thinking, what is on their mind, what is their, you know,

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what are their problems? What is the issue, what has brought them to the point that they're, that they're in right now. And by understanding that, then you can give them the necessary or the suitable remedy to qualify for them. But

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there's another question relating to the moment from

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And apparently, they're very heavily subsidized this data for two years. spread that around, so could you enlighten us a bit about them?

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And also the fact that

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they work?

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Because, although that's been modified already.

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Yeah, it's been it's been corrected, you know, there are

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they're the elders who run their organizations, the prophets. They receive revelation. Because, you know, early Mormons, they were polygamist in the wild, and they would have like 20 3040

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even till today, because still wasn't, didn't submit to the changes, right? In about

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30 or so. government and government threatened to take away statehood from them take over the state, unless they cancel this politically. So shortly after that, the elders received revelation.

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Capital, some of their followers, they didn't agree

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with this one, right. So they just kept on going.

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Back in Canada, I saw some programs that I interviewed with Mormons 1314 different lives. And here's the

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second is running a factory otherwise aren't working everything is just the administrator.

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So,

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they have been a few things have been modified changed. Similarly, this idea of blacks and blacks could not become

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elders or could not become even

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ministers there was a minister and but they couldn't reach this stage. There could only be followers and they

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Wouldn't be included our particular mouse involved in which the names of all the warmers are catching on.

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their marriages are kept intact for the next life and you're looking at

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a similar thing now.

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So they had received the revelation

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of the curse,

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the curse

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of ham right on the son of

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Noah.

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And the town would actually go about being pressed to be the hewers of wood and the drawers of water for his brothers.

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But there's nothing in the Bible that says

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adaption.

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But, of course,

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but I'm saying that there's been typically putting on that for the How might end up being in their biblical history and and that type

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of question, and could you please clarify whether

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one particular form of finance

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I would not imagine that she accepted

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the principle of finance thought by socialism, he did speak about people who, in amongst the Sophie's who are hearing a lot of names, you know, fell into a faith that would go unconscious, right? I mean, he's, he didn't,

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you know, prohibited, but, he pointed out that this was not

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a better state or a superior state something to be sought, he pointed out that this was a weakness on their part, because the Sahaba were not known to do this, a lot of them was mentioned nobody was faced with a lot of them was mentioned, you know, there was

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established the, you know, to the end.

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So, identify some of these things, there are certain aspects of Sufism, not because he went through and was exposed to Sufi teachings with everybody in those days, and everybody, welcome to part of your normal training scholars. These are how often they're named, though, they would have

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to indicate they're

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gonna have to indicate their philosophical methods and then

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to indicate there

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may be a series of events. So, it was very common

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majority of the scholars

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in the course of their learning what they realized was left behind.

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But where there was certain good even tenure that is, because this was our the Jamia was there, whenever there was some, some deviation or some error, where there is good he would give credit to the point where there was wrongly identified as being wrong and seek to correct it. This is amongst people who have not gone outside of

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people who still remain amongst the middle who had incorrect ideas.

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It's another question

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particularly relevant to how to approach to

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profit.

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As a general principle, there is no one way

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there is no one way to approach this is going to vary from person to person from family to family.

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The point is that one has to have some kind of relationship with the people we're trying to communicate with some kind of openness and they're willing to accept

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as well as openness is there which can be built through friendships through doing treating people kindly, etc, etc. Once we have that relationship, then they can be introduced

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to

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two different

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statements of

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statements of the law. Also there are lectures done by some

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scholars who speak their language

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and are very effective in bringing their ideas across so you can get to them. Listen to

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another question.

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Do you think the sheer worship a man will unlock for themselves

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Well this year as a group in general, they have given the attributes of a law to the amount

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they've got actually Christian step, further

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vested with the

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Office of papacy, people often

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hear becomes infallible.

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But

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Catholics, this is a book on the market called a bad

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one want to raise the question about this infallibility, get that book all the bad

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stuff historical stuff that the folks were involved in, you know, all kinds of fornication and corruption and yeah, really, wow.

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Anyway, for the Catholics, you know, the pope when he becomes the Pope, comes in power, make

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mistake guided by the Holy Spirit's God's representative on Earth.

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For the

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they go, the Catholics, one better they have 12

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as an include Fatima is number 13.

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These are the Italians.

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But they go beyond that of this. The Catholic Catholic

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wedding received the opposite

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was for the amount they are infallible from birth

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incapable of any error, either inwardly or outwardly.

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Accidentally.

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Totally

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given the actions

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of

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Adam,

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Adam.

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So, given the

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status of your accountability salability

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sorry to address that some other time, maybe in the panel session or something to bring that up to more questions actually shooting over time.

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Too much, is there a special way of handling the Jehovah Witnesses because they tend to be the most difficult and consistent

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with

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Joel was witnesses.

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Anyway, jovis witness

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there's different ways,

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if you are familiar with their background, their history, and you can point out that there are leaders that predicted that the world was going to end in 19.

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And this is why they got many followers in the beginning.

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Because they were what they call a millennial

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are talking about the end of the world is

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around the corner 1970s was the sort of thing that back in about 80

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years away, so 1970s everybody was waking

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up

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to productive, then the remainder they need a new tax year. explanation. Oh, as was, you know, Jesus came down to the lower heavens.

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Then again, they said another day 30 something

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the waiting for?

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About four or five times, finally, a few years back, they came up because one of their solutions that our calculations went right, you know, we're making these calculations when the Greek word laughter isn't Hebrew and it's a new calculation. Isn't this the most frequent that didn't work? Finally, given up on it?

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You know, you know, God knows. So they finally dropped it. But there is both this five times the set dates for the end of the world, which didn't happen.

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Okay, last question. Some of this applies everywhere. Can you talk about this subject, elaborate

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I think given a short space of time is not really

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to be the topic of this

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panel session and the detail after which can be found out this whole chapter in my book called the fundamentals of tawheed, which is available here called

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tendency and along

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with all the arguments in support

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of violence and

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progress will be used in the bookshop between now and

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of course in that area. And the other question, I do apologize for not going through and don't take it at one moment necessarily better than the other