Channel: Ahmed Deedat
Topics: Comparative Religion
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Ladies and gentlemen, in bedding You're welcome here to the Athlone Civic Center.
It is with great pleasure that I look at the hole from the side. There are very few meetings where you find the hole is full before starting time.
Okay guest this evening
is really no guest at all. It's become a household word, not only in the cape, but only in South Africa. But internationally. It's brother off my data from Durban.
But last night, we wish you all to welcome once again in Cape Town.
What you will hear tonight
dates back has its origin in America.
Brother Ahmed deedat will give us tonight a preview of what if Almighty Allah says you me inshallah will take place on the seventh of August in Birmingham in the United Kingdom.
brothers, my dad debates in America with Jimmy Swaggart, and he needs no introduction does he?
And after that, a challenge was extended to the Muslims. And the one who took up the challenge is brother of Medina, the challenge was extended by Dr. Nice shadows,
is a doctor of divinity and he gained his doctorate in America.
Tuition might well be asked what's he doing in America? Why is he there? You know, when the Jews came, and they grabbed the land of the Arabs.
Dr. Nice, a Palestinian Christian also had to flee. And he fled to America, where he became a student of Christianity and became a he gained his doctorate. So he is extended the challenge to the Muslims and it was taken up by Dr. Murthy by a brother of Madeira. And it will take place in Birmingham, we are on the United Kingdom on the seventh of August of this year.
Needless to say, we wish brother Ahmed well and we will be following that with intense interest. So what you will do tonight, inshallah is to treat the subject and to address the topic
of the two out of the three great monotheistic religions,
Islam and Christianity both laying claim to a holy book, he will address the subject on which is God's word. Is it the Quran? Or is it the Injeel the Holy Bible
and whereas, I will remind the brothers once again after the talk,
this is a lecture with a difference that it will be question time and I will treat that again when I when the time comes. But I appeal to all those people who have any intention of putting questions tonight. Please notice count and flip around the references now. Please pay attention to what is being said because I have been around before and people tend to ask questions totally unrelated to what was being said please pay attention to what is being said and put those questions relating to that. I without any further ado I introduce you to Brother Medina
also below ministry Danny rajim
Bismillahi Rahmani Raheem
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the subject of this evening's discussion,
the Quran or the Bible has actually been forced upon me.
Usually, I have been discussing the Bible had debates about the Bible is the Bible God's word, but this Palestinian Arab Christian knowing Arabic he had already won debate with me in the Royal Albert Hall in London. On the subject is Jesus God, the tape is available the videotape
he challenged me once more again, this is not this time he wants to involve the Quran.
And we were forced to accept that challenge. So we are going to discuss this tonight. This is a preview.
If you beforehand I'm giving you of what is expected to happen. We don't know whether it actually happens this way. But this is an exercise. I believe in a trial run. Islam expects every Muslim you see
To be ready and fit for any eventuality allowances Muslims to be ever ready. This is why our lahoma Stata two Min coverting, say indeed ready against them your strength to the utmost of your power, woman rebuttal highly even including steeds of war, meaning the most sophisticated weapons of the time, this is our instruction, but unfortunately, we have not been following it. Therefore we find ourselves in the plight in which we are, but preparation, very, very important. And this is I'm grateful to my brother, here for creating this opportunity for me to have this practice run about this debate that is going to take place. Now the subject, the Quran, or the Bible, which is God's
this one wonderful thing,
many wonderful things about this glorious book, The Quran,
the holy book, The Quran, is that the Quran proves itself.
This is the beauty about Allah, Allah, any charge, any charge you have against this book, the enemies of God, they might
allege against this book, The Quran answers, it defends itself, it doesn't need you or me. What can happen is that we can let the book down by not knowing
but everything anything that the man throws at you. Allah defends his own book. If it is his book, he must defended himself. So this subject could
you know, the Quran is the only book
which means itself. And the Quran makes the claim. Allah makes the claim in the Quran that this is my book. He makes the claim.
I go to Bismillah R Rahman Rahim.
Allah Allah Quran
that it is a rough man, the Merciful God, it is he who has revealed the Quran, Allah, Allah himself says, I have revealed the Book, this is from Surah Rahman.
Chapter 55, I am number one in to Allah makes a claim. And again in Surah, Garcia, Joshua, there is chapter 45. Again, I am number one and two, he says Allah says, then zero kitabi min Allah Hill Aziza, Hakeem that the revelation of the book, this book
is from Allah, the Exalted in Power, full of wisdom.
Allah makes the claim that this is my book, and it is he who has revealed it.
When we look at the Bible, the Holy Bible, this Bible is, of course, the Bible of the Jews and the Christians put together, Jews and Christians are all involved in this book. Because what they call what we call the Old Testament is the Bible of the Jews, the New Testament and all put together is the Bible of the Christians, oldest Bible of the Jews. So the whole Bible consists of Jews as well as Christians, we dealing with them both.
This word Bible is not in the Bible.
In this book here, I have in my hand, is an encyclopedia of 66 books.
It's like a library of 66 books inside.
But there's no way in the 66 books is the word Bible written. Nowhere does it say Bible, God says, this Bible is my book, no way. The name is not there, and the claim is not there.
you say with regards to the Quran,
Allah challenges mankind.
He challenges them to say this is my book, and he wants you to accept it as such. He says,
Hey, we're in quantum field a vimanas. Allah, Allah Abdullah, that if you have any doubts with regards to what we have revealed to our servant Muhammad from time to time,
to this rapidly Miss Lee, then produce a surah chapter like it
where the woman is what
Allah and call your witnesses anyone besides Allah, income from Swati King, if you're speaking the throat and bring your witnesses as proof to say, this is anywhere like the book that Allah has given to his servant and me Prophet, one who doesn't have to rewrite he has this presenting to you chapters and beautiful verses, come on, you produce one like it. So for them to follow losses and you'll not be able to do it will
never never be able to produce the like they're off for
for any length of time.
For takuna allottee bakudo NASA will Jarrod read the deal Catherine, then prepare yourself for the fuel for hell for fuel the fire whose fuel is millions stones burns up everything.
This is a challenge 1400 years now the challenge stands and nobody the Arab, the pagan mushriks of Makkah, they couldn't produce anything like it. And in the Christian world today, I'm sorry in the Muslim world today.
They are in Egypt alone, more than 10 million Christian Arab Christians. So people generally don't know. We think every Arab is a Muslim.
In the Lebanon, you know, the people who massacred the Palestinians, Sabra and Shatila, whoever they were Arab Christians
10 million. They're boasting now in Egypt alone, that that 10 million Arab Christians speaking Arabic
and they are masters of the language, even the Westerner many, many masters Arabic we have to go to him to learn meanings of words you know that whenever we learned people you know when they refer to Arabic words, they go to what is called Lane's lexicon, who is lane, Englishman famous famous in the in the world's lanes lexicon, we go to him in what is the meaning of this word, what is the root word and how it originated all that will go to these non Muslims
writings, books have been written gamma, by the by the Christians by the Christian Arabic grammar. Here is a book
this is the book this is a part of what they now call the harmony of the gospel. This is now addressed to Muslims.
You see when you read the Arabic Bible, the Arabic Bible and when you compare with the Arabic of the Quran is chalk and cheese is falls apart world of difference. There is no comparison whatsoever.
So now what they call it, contextualization
is the new word. They want to create now a feeling in the Muslim
that this sounds like the Quran.
they borrow words from the Quran and start the book here, this new publication, how to catch the Arab Muslim. They start with this Mila here Rahmani Raheem. every chapter now begins now. Bismillah Ar Rahman is often to compete with the Quran was every chapter of the Quran begins Bismillahi Rahmani Raheem, and terms and expressions phrases are borrowed from the Quran into this book in the so called New Testament. they borrow it so when the Muslim reads it is many sounds like my own, easier to catch fish deception. They have developed deception as an art here in Cape Town. This book here. I'll keep a look at it. How beautiful al Qaeda.
Look at the caligraphy
this is Christian.
When you see this al Qaeda, you say immediately comes to mind.
I mean, golly Kalki tavolara Buffy al Qaeda.
Christian This is Christian. And I showed you deception as an art Look at this beautiful beautiful look at this sticker. Golden sticker. Look at this. I know it's difficult. But I think once it is on on on on, on video, you'll be able to see that close quarters. deception and art. Look at this. I'm asking people Arabs and in Pakistan is Look what is this? What is this really? Did his brothers say what is this?
Yes, this everybody says Allah Muhammad.
I said I really like that to Allah Muhammad. This is not Allah Muhammad. This is Allahabad,
catching fish, fish, they have developed all these as an art, how to get the Muslim fish. What bait to use to see because this accord is law.
But it looks like anybody everybody. I put an old error in Jitta I shoot him yada, yada. Have a look at this. Since Allah Mohammed yascha have another good look. is Allah Mohammed? Zaki look, have a good look, what does it say? This Olam haba an error can be caught. I can be caught, but of the message. Phishing, phishing, phishing deceit, deceit they have developed it as an art when they can do all that Allah says produce a chapter like it. This is what is asked of you produce something like it and Allah says you'll never be able to do it even if you help one another can be done.
Now, let us look at the Bible what it says that is say I said there is no way in the whole of the Christian Bible this encyclopedia will
It says, This is my book, God says this is my book loving.
On the contrary, you open one of the books called the Gospel of St. Luke,
Gospel of St. Luke, in the so called Injeel, the Christians in jail. So let's have a look at this Gospel of St. Luke, chapter one, verse one, he begins, Luke, say in as much as many have taken in hand to set in order, in narrative of those things which are most surely believed among as, just as those who from the beginning were eyewitnesses and ministers of the word delivered them to us. It seemed good to me also saying that others have done work. They have written down things narration about things happening among us. It seemed good to me also having had perfect understanding from the very first better educated than most, the most learned of this Christian writers, the only Gentile
writer, all the books of the Bible, written by 40 different persons, all Jews, Jews, Jews, Jews, here is a Gentile. Luke is the Gentiles only Gentile writer, and he is telling you that it seemed good to me also, you can do the job, why can't I?
So he's telling you why he wrote what inspired him, you you? If you can do it, why can't I do it? Why can I do a better job and better educated than you?
Now let us hear from themselves. What they themselves say. They have written a book,
on which book my book was based,
is the Bible God's word, it was being given out.
It was being given out as people came in,
is the Bible God's word. But this book of mine was based on this other book, Christian book, it says it is the Bible, the Word of God. Same type of question mark. It is written by a certain Dr. Graham scroggie. Don't worry about the name. It is published by the Moody Bible Institute, Moody
Bible Institute is a very, is a very
prestigious, prestigious religious body in America. And they published it in this book.
This book is trying to prove that the Bible is God's word. There, you get it from the horse's mouth. They say this is God's word, and they're trying to prove and in trying to prove this, Dr. scroggie, he goes under certain Dr. Joseph Parker, we have a lot of Packers here. Easy to remember, this is Joseph Parker. And never forget Joseph Parker.
On page 22, and 23, he says,
what a book is the Bible.
Typical in America,
you'll hear shortly if you see the tape number 27. When he's addressing that audience in the Royal Albert Hall is a What a lovely bunch of people.
So, same Typically, what a book is the Bible, in the matter of a variety of content, a
variety of contents things different different, you know, as we are told that variety is the spice of life, you have that variety, variety, you will different types of masalas in your careers, you know,
this is variety, in the mere matter of variety of contents.
And I can give you examples keep you hold nice here, just giving you the variety of contents and bore you to death.
I don't want to do that. say in the matter, me a matter of variety of contents. So who pages are taken up with obscure names, I'm only quoting obscure names, names you never heard before. obscure names, and more is told of a genealogy than of the Day of Judgment. stories I have told stories or have told and the night falls before we can tell where we truly
were Is there anything in the religious literature of mankind to correspond with this? There isn't
this QED proof that this is God's Word?
Actually is proving that this is the hotchpotch
is a hodgepodge of a book. That's what he's telling you. But the beautiful necklace of words you see the way they link it together holds the phrases. It tantalize us, man you listen to it, and you fall it over us you get mesmerized, what a book
has, let us examine it. Number one
is a whole pages are taken up with obscure names of show names, name you've never heard before in your life, and you are not likely to hear them in the future.
Nobody remembers. Nobody knows.
I give you example, just talking is easy. I give you example, I'm quoting from the first book of Chronicles, Chronicles, chapter one, verse 11. From the Holy Bible,
Misra, m. b got luding an army law lahab him, not to him, but through SIM cards through him.
Look, any of these there are 50,000 here 50,000 Christians and if I asked anyone is there a single ludum alameen lahab him not to him Petrosian, kazoo him here, and they won't be. But this is in the Holy Bible such beautiful names.
You never heard of it. This is No, nobody. This is the Holy Bible, I'm reading the AppStore names, and you will never likely to hear in your lifetime. If you live to 100 you won't hear them again, except for mama dee da.
And at one of my meetings in the Middle East.
I had a Palestinian Muslim brother as a chairman Dr. Maha Shula of Dubai. So I'm asking him the chairman.
As a doctor,
have you heard these names before?
This is not as a shame on you.
You know why? I said these are your forefathers, because he is a Palestinian Muslim. You see, I said these are your forefathers. That's what the Bible says that these are from him came the Philistines. You Palestinians. your forefathers you don't know the names even Shame on you. Same thing I can tell this doctor, I'm sure she's also Palestinian, as I have you heard the names before.
Most properly, I expect unless somebody fixes him tells him his ad that's gonna ask you this question doesn't matter. He might say yes. So somebody informed you.
I'll ask him. I said, Look, have you heard these names before?
impossible for him to say yes. Unless somebody has telexes in NASA that's gonna ask you this question. No, you can do that.
So names like this. Your ancestors, your grandfather's and nobody knows the name. The Muslim Palestinian doesn't know and the christian palestinian doesn't know the names. So who pages are taken up
and more is told of a genealogy than of the Day of Judgment. You know, it's genealogy, telling you about your ancestors, your Who was your father, and your grandfather and your great grandfather going back to 50 generations. More is told about that, then of the deal judgment, the Holy Quran, Allah salam, one third of the Quran is dealing with Yamaha piano, the last day, the day of judgment, look out beyond God, Hell is no joke.
Heaven, Hell, Day of Judgment. One third of the Quran deals with that. Here, we are told more is told of a genealogy then a study of judgment. misstatement is a no no, no, look, let me show it to you. Let me show you. The Chinese have a saying one picture is worth 10,000 words. One picture that I give you two pictures.
so this, this is the genealogy of Jesus Christ.
It says Matthew
chapter one, verse one, it begins the book of the genealogy of Jesus Christ, the Son of David, the son of Abraham, Abraham, Isaac, Isaac because Jacob and Jacob aka Judah and his brethren and Judah Dr. Farris and Sarah, Tamar and shin and on and on and on, and this is Luke. This is the genealogies of Jesus Christ, both.
Between the two by Matthew and Luke, they give you 66, fathers and grandfathers with Jesus Christ. 66.
And out of this list two lists, there's only one name common to both.
They are all contradictory. They're different, different lists.
And both are inspired by God Almighty, the Holy Ghost tells them what to write and they wrote, and only one name is common to both out of the 66 names. And that one is Joseph the carpenter, who's not supposed to be there.
Amazing, amazing. I'm asking.
God Almighty dictates the genealogy of his son, his son in inverted commas. That's what they say Jesus is the Son of God Almighty is dictating the genealogy of his son. And he takes the trouble of dictating 66 men
and he keeps himself out of it. What is he telling you?
What is it telling you tell me, my son.
For example, I dictate to two journalists, the genealogy of my son and I give six to six fathers and grandfathers for my son, but I'm not one of them. What am I telling
a man who had no father. We believe that he was born here.
Honestly, and you take the trouble of getting 66 names and out of that the author himself the progenitor, if at all, he is upset, more is told of a genealogy then of the Day of Judgment.
Little wonder law says
for a lonely living up to buena kitabi him from Morocco Luna has Amendola so both of them who write the book with their own hands. from Morocco Luna has I mean in the law, then they say this is from Allah lifta Ruby feminine Padilla that they may reap some small rewards some benefit, we look
at him so warm to them for what the hands do right away. You will love me my Lexi Boone and bow to them for what the
story is a halftone. I'm still going I'm only giving you explanation because the man has spoken beautiful words and phrases I want to tell you in a look how nice is putting all these things.
Stories are halftone.
And the night falls in this eclipse before we can tell it clearly what happened. What's the outcome? Nothing, you know nothing. Thank you.
chapter 27, verses 52 and 53.
It speaks about the wandering corpses, corpses, you know dead bodies coming out of the graves and walking the streets of Jerusalem.
And the graves were open. The graves were opened and many bodies of the saints, goodly people that were dead and buried for centuries, many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep means dead were raised and coming out of the graves.
after his resurrection after his Elijah's eruption of Jesus Christ. They went into the holy city and appeared to many left, right, left, left, they marched into Jerusalem.
These dead people they came out with the napkins or with the shrouds or the skeletons. And they walk the streets of Jerusalem that Matthew says but out of the 27 books of the New Testament. Amazing. He's the only guy who saw it.
Can you imagine people walking dead people coming out of the grief from your graveyard here?
And he walking down Claremont or or here Adelaide Street
and nobody sees it.
No newspaper except one guy somewhere? Can you imagine such a situation nobody has ever seen? And then what happened to them?
Look, they just they came out and they walk the streets. What happened? Did they go and find the wives and children
go to bed again with them. But what did they do? Or did they go back into the grave?
If they did, why would they want to go back? Once you've freed them from the grave, you will go back? What happened? Man tell us no. Story closed. Finish. No, not one word more by Matthew or by anybody else.
As you know, just one verse. Book of Judges, judges. This is a name of another book in the Bible. chapter three verse 31.
after him after him wash shamgar
never heard the name before shamgar
the son of Annette who killed 600 Palestinians
with an ox code
and he also delivered Israel. One Jewish boy with the stick.
I read about the stick first. You know when I was young. I'm reading the book of Acts. In the New Testament, chapter nine verses four and five. This is Paul was going to Damascus and he hears a voice
supposed to be the voice of Jesus from heaven. Is that Saul Saul? Why persecutest thou me? Why are you worrying me? Waikiki myself against the pricks.
So what is this? What kind of a holy book is this? So I started going and asking Chris What is this? Nobody could tell me Nobody. Nobody. Now is the newest latest new test a new latest Bible. The King James Version. They said gold. Why kickers are against the gold. I'm asking do people know what is the gold? Nobody knows. So I said look this is a goat. This is a cattle product. You know to make the capital ox wagon you know the days of the ox wagon is the poor thing is going slow slowly. You give it a one. This is a spike stick the stick with a spike in the front. They call it a cattle prod I call it a gold call it what you like with this one stick one Jewish boy killed 600 Palestinians
I want to know what with the Palestinians doing
them fools. Why did they run out
I'm asking this Palestinian doctor Anisha Rochelle asked him I said look Tell me man, what were you doing if you only spend on the guy who would have suffocated?
Anyway, with this take you can destroy 600 snowmen you know that
you believe that so you believe that once you believe that psychologically You are a defeated people gone for good. You can never stand up for the Jews never.
Because God Almighty had this destiny for you that one Jewish boy can kill 600 of you one little David kill a giant Shalu
us they make a big study of it. The Christian make a big study when we make a big study. We SOHCAHTOA da da da da da okay.
This guy, he beats the whole band What? He killed 600 with a stick and nobody knows about it. Nobody. You ask any Christian missionary I say you know Shankar asked him you know Shankar choose that.
I love you as a teacher test. I'll give you numerous debts from the Quran from the Bible. How to find out whether a book is from God or not. He gives us a test.
He says Bismillah
Al Quran. You say do not consider the Quran with K. wallow Can I mean in the hydrilla had it been from anyone other than Allah, Lucia doofy, Telefonica Sierra, you would have found in it, many discrepancies, many contradictions, natural, no human being
can ever remain consistent in his preaching for 23 years. No human being
is not human. You say something today. And according to the changing circumstances, you also change, your mind is changing and you're not aware that you're changing, you change man changes.
This book, this book of God, consistent in whatever he preaches throughout,
but it's a test, which we are to apply
to the Quran, as well as to the Bible. Now, Allah challenges is a you come forward, new Christians come forward, show us we will try and explain to you see where the sicknesses will explain to you. But now let us analyze the Bible because it came first.
I'm quoting from the Gospel of St. JOHN, Chapter 18, verse nine.
verse nine, that the same might be fulfill a prophecy that had been made that same might be fulfilled,
wishes spoke, whose spoke was that Jesus spoke, his saying might be fulfilled what he had said, in inverted commas, says a quotation of those who you gave me is talking to God Almighty, of those whom you gave me, I have lost none.
Telling Allah of those you gave me, I have lost many clues of inverted commas. This is what Jesus spoke.
Men, you know, what is men? Not one.
All right. You don't need a dictionary for that. Man means not one, not a single one. That's what it means none, not one.
And that is now in this Bible, the red letter Bible. This is the red letter Bible, which was presented to me by Dr. Ornish, at the last debate. He's got a point. This is, you know, when we,
when we go to meet a friend, we don't go empty handed. So he presented this book to me in a nice green cover. I didn't know what it was inside. But when I went home, I checked it up. Beautiful, very expensive Bible, this red letter Bible.
Everything that Jesus spoke is in red, so easy to find.
You don't have to not think who said this is inverted commas? Or did Jesus say that? You don't have to worry. Anything in red. Jesus said that makes my task easier to find out that is this in jail. You know, the Muslims get caught out. The Arab Muslim also, I say what the Bible says about Muhammad. So the Arab translator says, what the Injeel says about Muhammad, I can understand he's saying in jail, and in Arabic is saying about, as I didn't say in gdrp. I said what the Bible says about mahama so he changes it's about the thorax is about No, I didn't say Torah, I said Bible. Bible is no Torah is not the Buddha is not in jail. Don't get caught out. So this little book
Mine explains to you What is thoradh? What is what is in jail, you must get it. If you haven't got it yet, get it. It's free. Right? So this, this book makes my task easier. So I start looking for everything that Jesus spoke in the New Testament. So I find that 21 out of 27 books of the New Testament, there are 27 books.
In the so called angel of the Christians 21 out of 27 has not got even a red.or, a dash or a doodle.
lever being the Word of God is not even the word of Jesus, it is not even quoted.
And in the Living Bible is a new another with the evangelists, the preachers use the Living Bible 23 out of 27 there's not even a dread.or a dash or a doodle not even as much.
That's what you give me. You tell me it is not even the words of Jesus live are God's word is not even the words that are not even a word is counted.
But this particular one is in read.
Of those who knew gave me I have lost none
is in red. That means this is what Jesus said.
But the same john in chapter 17, Chapter before 18 in verse 12, he says, same Jesus now he says, while I was with them, in the world, I kept them in your name is Captain in that state park.
You get those whom you gave me, I have kept and none of them is lost, except the son of perdition except one, none but one.
So that means it's a contradiction. Jesus in next chapter, the same Holy Ghost because the same john two right, he lost he said I lost none. Now he said I have lost only one
is it one or none.
So here is another King James version does the King James Version, this is also another red letter Bible.
Cost what the three runs 90 cents for this, you know our Quran we are selling you brothers 2000 pages, this Quran 10 runs 10 runs. And if I had the chance in sha Allah, the next time and I come along, if I can supply them enough, it will be five rounds each five rounds each 2000 pages, five rounds each inshallah, at the moment, they are 10 rounds is cheap while I do cheap.
43 rounds 90 since I paid for this plus GST.
This is also a red letter Bible. So I opened the same verse, john, Chapter 18, verse nine, and it's in black. That in these editors, they don't believe it is the word of Jesus.
I could see that can be Jesus contradicting himself, the Holy Ghost contradicting himself. But he puts it in black.
So can you see what I see somebody else also sees like silently, silently, nobody knows what they have done. You just read. You read through. You don't know what the games that they're playing.
But it can be those but it is only one we just talking about one. Why are you so particular I said, you know, in a court of law, when you beat testimony, and when you say well, I only took one, then you say I took none. But as a judge says you said one just now is it fair to say maybe it was a slip of the tongue?
You know, you can be charged for perjury, bearing false witness. Even one is a contradiction.
But as it Look, since you're so you want you miss to overlook this one little point. Let's look at this. In the second book of Chronicles, chapter nine, verse 25. It says, and Solomon had has a Solomon Alyssa lamb was a king, and a wise man. He had 4000 stalls of horses.
Then in another book of the Bible called one king, first king, chapter four, verse 26. Is and Solomon had $40,000 of hearts causes. Lydia 4000 odd 40,000 How many do they have?
This is only a question of it and not
really very ingenious. They're all ready to answer you. As you look between four and 14 is just a zero was added by mistake maybe or a zero dropped off.
As is no zero not as there's no, my Jewish cousins. They didn't they didn't do the zero. You know, zero is a new invention.
And it was given by the arrows to the Western world zero. Without zero we couldn't have all the sciences. You know that
With those Latin fingers, you know, I'm supposed to tell you 1000 that type of writing millions and billions you're gonna write out
all this you work in calculators you need the 00 is a greatest invention of man is our Arab brethren who gave it to the west, the Jews didn't know zero when they wrote this. They used to write in words, for in Hebrew for you, or for 44 to 40. So that now the difference between four and 40 is that the 6000 is not only 130 6000 whatever it
is, where a man can make a mistake, yes, no doubt, man can make mistakes, but you said is the word of God, that God dictated so if God dictated then the fault is God's God made the mistake. That is what we are taking exception to. Can you see if you say man writes and you know, he was maybe he was tired? Oh, yeah, some some men racks are what? Son the guy you know, I'm saying for he wrote for the Legion all
peoples force but not God is a God wrote it, oh, god declared it we have a right to take exception. So look, you're attributing a lie to God now?
Full of 40.
Now the Bible gives us a test
of how to find out whether it is from God or not. Beautiful, beautiful. In the second book of Timothy, Timothy, chapter three, verse 16, every Christian and in previously they were quoting this, but they have gone out of now There seems to be one out this, this verse
two Timothy 316, it says, All scripture is given by inspiration. Scripture means the holy book, given by inspiration, allows why and is profitable for
doctrine. Number one, for doctrine, teaching, but you should believe that you shouldn't believe doctrine,
for reproof, you do something wrong say look out.
You see, you do such and such a thing, your adultery, you will be stoned to death or whatever, you still
go to jail. Whatever. The proof, look out.
doctrine, reproof. Correction isn't a no no, no, not like this, my son, this is the way to do the job,
or instructions and righteousness for
and I'm asking learned min of crescendo, can you find a fifth
heading under which you can put the word of God fifth? I haven't come across one. In 40 years, no Christian with the name has ever been able to come forward with a fifth asset nor can I. I'm not saying that I'm cleverer than you. I can give you the fifth one beautiful. Anything if it is from God, it must be under these four headings. It must be your doctrine, reproof, correction or instructions under righteousness. Right is right. So as of right, now, let's analyze. I give you one worse. Just one was
from the book of Judges. Chapter 16 was one book of Judges, chapter 16 verse one, it reads, then Samson, Samson went to Gaza.
Gaza is in the news. You know because is this Jews are in are knocking and killing our children there. That's Gaza, Gaza and West Bank Gaza, and was when you keep on seeing it on your TV, Gaza. If I said this about a month ago, you guys. Yeah, you know, now Gaza, you know, because I saw some Samson went to Gaza.
And he saw a harlot, harlot whore, a prostitute, he saw a harlot.
He saw a holiday and he went in into her. First off, tell us
what more you want to know.
I'm asking, Where does this fit in? into the Word of God?
This guy goes to Gaza and you see a holiday whore and he goes in and
God doesn't give him a he doesn't give him vd. He doesn't give him gonorrhea. Nothing.
It doesn't reproach him a What the hell? You know, Moses said, Thou shalt not commit adultery, the adultery and the adulterous must be stoned to death nothing, nothing, nothing, not one word, one grid, the whole chapter you will never find another word.
So where does it fit in? If it doesn't fit into your doctrine, no to your
reproof, nor to your correction, nor to instructions unto righteousness, then it fits under pornography.
You give me another heading is pornography of the highest order
Little wonder that Ian Fleming the guy who did the double oh seven, you know James Bond. I saw it you know from Russia with love.
I didn't see it. You see you just I was shocked. Really? I was shocked to see this guy James Bond, double oh seven. He goes everywhere he goes to see a beautiful woman and he goes to bed with his go somewhere else. This is another beautiful one. He goes to bed with that. As easy as like eating peanuts.
Ready to get the idea from Ian Fleming. So yeah, Samson goes to Gaza. He sees a harlot and it goes into her.
Are you laughing?
You see they're making a mockery of God. You visit this is God's word. You making a mockery of him. That's why I'm showing you all this.
Math it makes people to laugh. Not only you just wait a little, you know, you're gonna burst out laughing wait.
Allah gives us
another test he tells us about the relationship between Islam the Quran and the previous revelation to get apps. Bismillah Rahim Allah La Kitab.
Allah says it is we have revealed the Book the Quran in truth, Musa De Lima by nyjah Jimenez kitabi, confirming that which was revealed in the previous scriptures, confirming that which was given in the previous scriptures, mineral kitabi. Well, mohai minun la and a quality control, a guarding in protection of the book of the revelation of God, this book, The Quran,
Allah gave you to confirm what is true if they say that God is one sakalava say this is Thou shalt not commit adultery, the Quran says lotta kusina a little step further, don't go even anywhere near it. So whatever the book says is worth confirming this book confirms. And it is a quality control. Don't go out of bounds. Any way you go out of bounds. This book says, Wait a minute, check it. It's not so quality control.
Yeah, I do an example. Exodus, there is a second book of the Bible, Chapter 31, verse 17, it says
that the Sabbath, Yama sub Sabbath, you know, they're not supposed to work. The Jews are not supposed to work on Saturdays. So it is assigned between me as if Allah saying, and the children of Israel forever.
For in six days, the Lord made the heavens and the earth. And on the seventh day he rested and was refreshed.
Allah Allah, Allah, Allah, any imperfect body, to maintain yourself, you know, you get tired and you need rest. But now you're going to support other systems do other work, you get tired more,
the greatest need for rest. So God Almighty, He created the heavens and the earth in six days. And on the seventh day he rested and he was refreshed for another set of activity. That's what the Bible says.
The Quran says he
will Nakata lochness amaravati will urata
we created the heavens in the earth warmer and everything in between that
in six days mamama Santa will obey. And not in any sense of weariness, tiredness overtake us.
He created the heavens and the earth and everything in between in six days, days, not necessarily meaning 24 hour days. Though the Bible goes out of its way to tell the mankind that it was a 24 hour day, it goes out of its way. It says and the morning in the evening was the first day and he made this and the morning and the evening was the second day and he did that in the morning and the evening was the third day and on and on that morning and evening was 24 hour 24 hour 24 hour day.
In the Holy Quran, we are told there are times when we say Ramadan, we fasting say I Yama Duda for a few number days that is 24 hour days. Then Allah says a day in the sight of Allah is 1000 years of reckoning depending upon what you are talking about. another occasion in the Quran is a day in the sight of a life 50,000 years of reckoning depending upon what angle you're looking at. So, it is a period of time whether 24 hours whether 1000 years with a 50,000 years or 50 million years or 5 billion or 50 billion set period of time. Whatever it is, it is but Allah tala does not feel fatigue or tiredness in his creation in doing what he does.
In the sutra, cozy, cozy we are told was yakushi of Samadhi well Arabic
And his throne extends over the heavens and the earth, while I Yoda who he will all EULA z. And he feels no fatigue, no weariness
in guiding and cherishing his creation, the Quran says that the other one says he got tired, and he rested and he was refreshed quality control.
Jesus Christ has made to say in the Gospel of St. Mark chapter 10, verse 27. So but looking at them, Jesus said, looking at them, Jesus said, with men, it is impossible certain things men can do, but not with God, for with God, all things are possible. Allah can do anything.
And we take no exception to that Allah says so in the Holy Quran. Allah Lima, you read, says he is a doer of all he intends whatever he wants to do a lack into
Holy Quran Chapter 85 verse 16, surah, not.
The Quran confirms.
Jesus said, with Allah with God, everything is possible you can do whatever he likes. The Quran confirms this is for Allah URIs, yes, Allah can do is a newer of all he intends whatever he wants to do, he can do.
But the Bible now contradicts that in the book of Judges, chapter one, verse 19, it says, so the Lord and God was with Judah, Judah,
father of the Jewish race, from whom we get the word Jew, Judaism, Judea, Judah, Judah. So the Lord God was with Judah, and they draw out the inhabitants of the mountains. With the help of God, God Almighty is helping Judah, the Jews. And with that help they they drove out the inhabitants of the mountains, but they could not drive out the inhabitants of the lowland, because they had chariots of iron, the tanks, armored cars of those days. So God couldn't do anything push up, he failed. He couldn't help do that. Further. Thailand, people, God could help Judah, not toes into them, throw them out. But now when they go to the lowland, those people had chariots of iron banks armored cars
of the day.
Poor God couldn't do anything. So I said, you see quality control analysis, no.
Read, he can do what he intends is there's no tanks and armored cars, or Spitfires or anything and coming his way, whatever he wants to do, he can do he can accomplish.
The Bible gives us another test.
It gives us test so let's apply this test. Second Peter, second book of Peter, chapter one, verse 21.
This Second Peter has been in dispute there is a problem about Second Peter, among the Christians, it was not accepted as a canonical gospel.
Up to four centuries after Jesus, the Christians have been accepted
this field that have learned minimum the Christian disappeared in right. But now, let us see what he says. If you wrote it, he says, For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man prophecy telling people what is going to happen in the future. It didn't come in olden times, by the will of man whims, fancies, your impulse, whatever you felt like talking your talk, none. But holy men of God
spoke spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. Whatever the Holy Ghost told them to say they said it.
That's what prophecy is. All right. So God Almighty through the Holy Ghost, with the algebra, Archangel Gabriel, being the way they said, Now, whatever he inspired people to write, they wrote, so let's examine, we examine.
It says here, that before Jesus was born, his mother Mary is told by the angel, that this son of yours, Isa, he will be great, and will be called the son of the highest, and the Lord God will give him the throne of his father David, you will sit on the throne of his father David. You know, he was a king ruler in Jerusalem. So God Almighty will give your son that throne you'll be ruler, a king sitting on the throne, throne of his father David, and He will reign over the house of Jacob jacobellis lambs family. bunnies ride. jacobellis llama called sons they became 12 tribes the bunnies rally, he will rule over the bunnies Ryan forever.
Hamish Acharya, you know forever and of his kingdom they will be no and
that's the prophecy for Maria Maria Salam when she goes
This news She must have been elated, oh, my son will be a ruler a king sitting on the throne of his great grandfather.
What happened? Instead of him sitting on the throne machinic is sitting on the throne Pilate, and he's sitting in judgment on Jesus.
He's supposed to be the ruler supposed to be ruling the Jews forever? Who's ruling in Israel? Now?
asked his missionaries, who's ruling in Israel,
Jesus Christ. He said he's going to rule over the house of Jacob for ever, universe ever.
Use any means ever, for all times, who is ruling at the moment? 2000 years have gone? Where is Jesus is sitting there on a hot seat in heaven. So they say he's sitting on the right hand of God is waiting for his enemies to become his footstool, who are his enemies, the Jews.
They are ruling they're running amok knocking holes into the poor Palestinians.
And Jesus appears to be ruling forever. And you sit on the throne of his father David, this pilot for us questioning him about the King of the Jews.
says Thou says that's what you say, sir, am I a Jew? To tell you this is what your people say that you are claiming to be a king. So Jesus says, My kingdom is not of this world.
Does that mean he's he's sitting on the throne of his father David is a My kingdom is not of this world. May corncrake is kniffen hear the word knee?
When we read,
incredulous, incredulous, fairytales by God incredulous in a book of God.
am reading from the book of Judges chapter 15
verse 15, and 16
he found a fresh Jawbone of a donkey who Samson the same Samson new into Gaza is exploit now he finds a fresh Jawbone of a donkey, you know, the jawbone of a donkey
reached out his hand and took it and he killed 1000 Palestinians with it with a Jawbone of a donkey.
this one Jew boy, he killed 1000 a few people, then we will right into
why? And with the jawbone of a donkey. How did you do? 1000 but they were lined up, even if they were lined up and what do you think the guy 1234 Can you imagine killing 1000 people with a Jawbone of a donkey and he sings a song listen to the song. Then Samson said he said with a Jawbone of a donkey heaps upon heat with the jawbone of a donkey isolate 1000 men
as a look in Greek fairytales you don't find this you believe that was a film God at one time so
this Samson follow now he goes judges Book of Judges chapter 15 verses four and five he says then Samson went and caught 300 foxes
you know it's a fox you can catch 310 dogs you know that
if you try to catch a chicken chicken in the chicken run you know one chicken
this guy Samson he went and caught 300 foxes listened
and what he did with them and he turned them tail to tail to two tails you know, maybe male and female male and female
he tied them tail to tail 22222 so he made 150 pairs Then he put fire between the tails
and he told them to go for the fields that the Palestinians and they went and they set fire to the Palestinian groves and olive groves and and wheat and all that this foxes thing when you tie them you look Fox Fox you know the fox wild things man you know you can even train dogs to do that you know you tie their tails they want to run when either way. But here he typed them up tu tu tu tu tu tu tu tu he made 150 page and then it would fire fire fire fire fire fire fire and he told them where to go and they went
you know the Greek gods couldn't do anything like that.
Then I say you Palestinians very valuable people you know your foreskin foreskin you know we do not have a circumcision circle. social circle means right around incision means to cut the skin.
Now is very worth is a valuable thing for dowry, you want to get married. You're going to marry a king's daughter for dowry those kings.
If I had time I'll tell you a joke about the Jew. You know
I was catching fish with it. But the type
one Samuel book of Samuel chapter 18, verse 27, says, Therefore David arose, and when he and his men and killed 200 men of the Palestinians, this Palestinians are just ready to be killed.
That's the destiny Allah as if it's got destiny for them. You just get killed by the Jews.
Now he goes into 200 Palestinians and David brought the foreskins the skin in the front he brought and they gave them in full Count 1234 he counted out his dowry 200 to marry the king's daughter, Michelle remarried Michelle 201 to like one pound 202 and three and you gave us this in full count
exactly 200 not 199 200 we paid out in full
as a you Palestinians man What is God God story for you? got for you.
Ah ha. You know God Almighty. He hates them so much. This Palestinians according to the book, according to this Jewish book, the Bible
he tells them he says look telling the Jews you kill the Palestinians, men, women and children.
Nothing that breeds must live.
Even ox and camel and sheep and goat and donkey. Even donkeys are not to be spayed. So what has the poor donkey done?
You imagine God Almighty He hates a Palestinian so much that even the Palestinian donkey must not despair.
But now God is more merciful.
On this occasion, this one occasion in the book of Numbers, chapter 31.
God says now, you must only say for yourself vergence of the Palestinians. You see little children kill them suckling kill them, because you would not have to hear them. You have a boy or a girl killed little children, male female kill them. Because you save a girl man, you're going to start by the time she's 14 in amount of food, shelter and production, you know waste of time destroy them kill them all. But when they are ready
14 1516 is not those. Also you must be on guard that they must be vergence.
Yes, which no man had known sexually.
soldiers in the field are given instructions. Look, when you see a Palestinian girl, you must verify that she is a virgin.
The only way is to rape and ravaged, ravaged there's no other way for a soldier How is he going to find out whether the woman is a young girl is a virgin or not. And if they found she's not a virgin top of her head,
not virgin chop overhead. And they saved for themselves that the 2000 women with new men had known and they were the first to rape and rubbish. How many 32,000? How many they murdered? It doesn't say that. God given such instructions.
Can you imagine any nation on Earth giving such instruction to the soldiers that when you meet, you know, your enemy nation when you meet young woman verify
faith and relish them. That's the only way you can verify and once you verified that this was true.
But you know God Almighty, He also wants to share God wants to share now out of that the raped and ravaged women of the Palestinians. He loves them so much. So it says yeah, and take the into was for the Lord. I'm asking what does the Lord do with rate and rubbish women?
What does God do with them? You tell me.
Little wonder Allah says
you have to go Nikita vadm who read the book with the wrong hands? So mokulua has I mean in the law then says this is from Allah? Yes, the rubies feminine kalila that they may read from it from small rewards and small benefit while we look at him
as a boon to them for what the hens do write to them for what they
know they say this shows follow at the last meeting. If you buy the tape, you'll hear him he said you know 75%
of the Quran in my glorious language, Arabic 75% is copied from the Bible.
Is plagiarized plagiarize stolen from the Bible. Mohammed copied it from the Jews in the Christian. What is the Quran? you copied it from the Jews and the Christians 75%. I'm asking what is there to copy what have you got that's worth copying?
My friend Jimmy Swaggart, he has been writing many beautiful books.
homosexuality, Sodom and Gomorrah. pornography. The preacher
In this book, there's one on incest. It's Yeah.
It's incest. Universe incest.
You see when you go with somebody else's wife or daughter commit sin
is called adultery. But when you do it with your mother that's incest. In you do it with your daughter is instance with your sister is instance with the daughter in law is incest.
And there are 10 cases of incest in the Bible.
Different different cases 10 cases, father with his daughter's father in law with his daughter in law,
son with his mother,
brother with a sister.
As if this is a textbook on incest, if you want to know what type of instance you can commit here, you'll get the reference book. The Bible
says What is there to copy and there's not one of them is copied here. There's not one case of incest in the Quran.
Not one, you got 10 What did Mohammed copy
that Christian themselves are saying ban the Bible call for glorifying violence and sex. The Christian women is crying in England, Ben the book.
George Bernard Shaw, he says the most dangerous book on earth. He said keep it under lock and key. Your children must not have access to it.
The plain truth magazine, the editors they say that many a sensor will give it an X rating. Cross
the Bible. This is a Christian publication the plain truth, this amania sensor will give it an X rating. So what is there to copy?
If Mohammed copied the things that I can give you from the Bible, you know Ezekiel, the details, I don't want to my sisters and my daughters I don't want to. But I tell you
the Holy Prophet Mohammed Salah if he was writing on his own if he was an imposter, and if he had copied these things, he could have made the Quran the best seller was the seller.
Because the Arizona lab did have no problem for him. They wouldn't have given him any problem. They
you know, they gave him persecuted him he had to flee for his life, you know that. But Harry copied the Bible about all the sex and the pornography that is there, it would have meant the arrows would have left it up of the Mujahideen, they would have left it up. And they would have said Mohammed is a great hero, no problem for him. Unfortunately, fortunately, he didn't do that.
Now, this book, making mockery of God
that God Almighty is a Baba Yaga Baba hairdresser.
Isaiah chapter seven verse 20. He says in the same day, the Lord will shave with the highest razor, not his own hired razor is going to shave with those from beyond the river with the kings of Assyria the head and the head of the legs is gonna shave your head and he's gonna hear of your legs. how high it doesn't say.
You know from the top to the thigh is your leg. Now he's gonna shave God Almighty is gonna shave. You tell that to a barber today we'll talk we'll cut your throat. You tell him his shame. Shame is gone by some feet.
God Almighty is the head
the head and the head of the hill legs and will also remove your beard. Your beard also. What are you making? Ababa Hi, john hjem. Allah, the column Molokini.
Then God Almighty, you know, he's giving ideas the Bible gives you ideas. You've seen people smoke, I've seen other people you know, smoke a bit too much.
I don't know watching when I was sitting standing outside and the people come in. And just last minute they want to have the last few puffs.
But you see some of our brothers. You see when they smoke and then they they make rings. you seen that?
I tried it sometimes I failed. I couldn't do it. Then there are others you know who smoke and they
they take our smoke from the losers.
When you get the idea from
where they get the idea from
from the Bible says smoke went out from his nostrils Allah nostrils
smoke went out from his nostrils and devouring fire from his mouth. You know the dragons.
St John's in the dragon fire coming out of his mouth. devouring fire. coals were killed by it. That's how allowed burns cola.
And he burns and I like the flame throwers. I don't know where they are seen in some time on the phones, the true flames. So God Almighty
and he burns calls with it.
He bought the heaven
Also and he came down with darkness under his feet. He wrote upon a Cheeto and flew.
What is true? He knows that
you see an angel is a beautiful woman with wings.
You go to the art gallery and I don't know about here Durban museum complex City Hall, Durban, you go to the second floor and you see the beautiful paintings by great artists. Among them. There is one there about the angel. Well proportion 3624 36 with me.
But she appears to be about 2524 25 do not that's an angel. It's true. is a 12 year old, 14 year old Angel and a little good, crisp, crisp. And God Almighty is writing this Listen, I'm only reading. He says and he wrote upon he wrote this young thing. Allah, Allah, Allah is writing upon this young little Criss Angel girl, about 11 or 12 year old angel with wings. And he flew like Superman.
You know, Superman, you know how he flies with his mind.
You don't say anything like that, and he goes,
but they're telling us that God Almighty He needed this job, you know?
And it's flying about.
But what are you making?
Why are you making mockery of God?
This is making a mockery of God Almighty in this book. And you say this is the last book Allah writing that he's telling you tonight that he like choo, choo little girls is riding them around. He can do what the Superman does.
For what you do lillas in the octagon and
then God Almighty,
in the book of Isaiah, he tells his prophet Isaiah, that he must go about naked, absolutely naked.
Not even a G string, you know that literal literal jockstraps you are not even that. No, no, no. He said he was about naked for three years. He was around in front of his mother, his daughter, his sisters, everybody, he goes around and a prophet of God. God Almighty made him to go about naked for three years.
You believe that? That Allah does that. He says in the Holy Quran, he says,
tell them in Malala Monroeville for Sha, Allah does not come on anything shameful,
shameful thing, telling his prophet that it is what he must do go about naked, and he commands another prophet.
In the book of Molokai, chapter two, verse three says, Behold, I will corrupt your seed, and spread down upon your faces, you know what's done?
What about human done? What do you call that? This is talking about human does not spread down upon your faces. I'd love you to do that on your faces,
even though none of your solemn feasts and one shall take you away with it. Then Ezekiel chapter four, verse 12, says, and thou shall eat it as barley cakes, is telling us prophet Allah is telling his prophet to eat that thing, what is going to make them as barley cakes, and thou shalt bake it with done that comes out of Maine in the site, what you see from fresh, fresh, fresh stuff, not the thing has dried up.
Not the grinder. One what you see fresh that's come out of man, that done you must make it with that and you must eat it. Who is profit,
selling his Nabhi to Allah, in Allah, Allah. Allah doesn't come on anything shameful.
Then he tells another prophet Hosea. Then the Lord said to me, he says, Allah told him, Go again love a woman who is a lover by a lover, and adulterous. Allah doesn't go and get a wife of adultery. Xena funny, gone Maria and adulterous, committing adultery.
Just like the love of the Lord for the children of Israel, who took other gods and love to reason
in the law
and Allah violet, Alhaji eats also broiled fish and honeycomb, you know that. He eats fatted calf.
This is what shows, you know, in the last debate, if you see that details, is that you see Ibrahim Ali Salam was sitting and he sees three angels appeared three persons, they appeared. They materialized, like what you've seen in Star Trek, Star Trek, you know, the people in the spaceship. They they dematerialize in the spaceship and they appear on some planet. And from there they disappear and they appear again in the spaceship. So three angels they appear.
So Abram and his Salaam thinking that they were visitors so he goes to them and said, Look, man, come, come, come, come You know, wash your feet.
And I want to be hospitable to you.
So they come inside they sit down, and even MLS lambda is one of the seven the fatted calf, the nice fat calf kidlit and he takes his way he gives him flour and some butter to his wife is coming quickly quickly bake some cakes. And he said the table
and and they act
who add is a God Almighty Allah
solutions when he said Lord, that means God, Jehovah, and the two angels, they act bitburger Kanaka they fill themselves.
And then the two went to Sodom and Gomorrah, the angels will destroy and God went his way. He walked away.
What does the Quran say? You see, is that elaborate? Allah tells you
that look, the three angels came to the primary slap, confirming that the Quran confirms. And even Mrs. Lamb took all the trouble to set the table and they sat down to eat. And the Bible doesn't say Bismillah get started.
And they're not eating since the Quran. They're just staring at the Himalayas. And the brahmanism get terrified. Naturally, you if you have visitors come to your house, you do everything, prepare the table, and you tell them this will get started. And they just looking at you.
The fear, maybe they have evil intention, maybe they want to steal his wife, maybe they want to kill him, robbed him. So he's terrified. Why is it that the people are not eating? So they say in the Quran? Allah says that they said that we are the angels of the Lord and we don't eat.
There the Bible says Allah Act
and the angels act.
So Allah says, tell them
takizawa leighann am I gonna take anyone other than ally as my Lord and protector? fattier, some arty Well, when He is the Creator of the heavens in the earth?
mean, it is he who feeds but is not fed.
This say Allah.
The Quran says Allah only feeds you but he doesn't eat. This is not his angels don't eat. God doesn't eat. These are the qualities of man. What's wrong with you? So correction, Mohammed en la.
My dear brother, you know there is so much
let me end this talk give you people an opportunity to ask questions.
In the I began, I let me end with the ayah from Surah Bani Israel, that is chapter 17. I am number 88
Bismillahi Rahmani Raheem por tener, la in the Gita murottal. In civil Gino Allah to be miss the hodel Koran say tell us that is the whole of genes and mankind. If they were together together to produce a lack of this could turn out to not be Miss Lee, they will never be able to produce a leg they're off
the bat in zahira, even if they help backstab each other with help and support.
This book is our last book and there is nothing like it that anybody can produce. We Muslims must become conversant with this book of Allah. Get a translation. I know the direct is Arabic If you understood I understood it will be the best. The second best is through a translation, get a translation and acquaint yourself with what Allah says and share it with our fellow countrymen, our neighbors, our friends, our employees or our employers. Share it with them. Whilst I'm delighted me.
Thank you, brother of mudita
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Ladies and gentlemen, you have heard
my deal dealt with the topic on which is God's word, the Quran or the Bible the only is very full.
But we have a microphone
placed in front of the stage. If you wish to put a question
pertaining to what was said.
Then please come to the microphone.
I beg of you that I'm here to control the meeting.
And I would like to say to those people who are perhaps not coming to put the question
that will ever comes to put the question should be afforded the opportunity, and the dignity and the honor of having equation put in a civil manner. And without any interference.
I would stop you if you interfere with him. But likewise, this is not a debate, it was a lecture. And I did say at the start that you are entitled to come and put a question, please, I would not like to stop you against your wishes. But if you come to give a lecture, then I'm going to stop you. And please put one question at a time.
And if there are more than one person, then you put one question at a time and go back to the end of the queue.
It's very awkward. Please facilitate methods if people want to get to the microphone, please let them do so. Thank you.
I see this was some people are unfortunate that they didn't hear a thing, which Mr. Dida said, they only watch these actions. Because I'm convinced that a number of the people can't hear.
I've asked early on that the ladies should be seated and the men should be standing. If you can still fit them in, please do so.
Mr. Jarrett, where in the Bible does it send an angel is a woman.
You don't have to look for that in the Bible. This word Shirou.
If you look at the Oxford Dictionary, he will tell you what the truth is. And what is the cherubim and what is the seraphim.
So you get to the end. If you go to the art gallery, as I said, and every Christian painting description you find in Christian literature, angels are always women with wings
are not always most of the time, you will find the drawings of a beautiful woman with grace and they are described as angels. Okay, and answers in the Bible. The second question is just on the actual Holy Quran. I haven't actually seen your copy of the Quran could you possibly just read me what's on the cover of the Quran?
This particular one I have in my hand, it says the Holy Quran.
Text translation and commentary by Abdullah Yusuf Ali, thank you
is an inspired what is inspired? What you've just read that cover? No, thank you. Yes, the Bible as well. The term Bible is not inspired either. We agree that the cover is not inspired.
The text is inspired, not the cover. So the fact that Bible does not appear in the Bible does not mean that it's not a Bible. It's an idiom. It's a term. Yeah. When you say it's an idiom, I agree with you. Bible is a book coming from the Greek word big loss, which means a book. Whereas the Quran names itself. The Bible doesn't name itself cannot possibly ask another question on that particular urid.
If there are any other questions, of course, you give them a chance and then you come back. If there are none, you will continue. If you are not, please make it possible for those people to come through. They wish to ask questions.
can I possibly ask while I come ahead? Yes.
The next question is you read from two Timothy three verses 16 and 17, which says that All scripture is God breathed is inspired by teaching. You also quoted from the book of Luke and you You brought out certain points there. Now as far as I understand the Bible, when it says All scripture is God breathed in is useful for teaching scripture it tastes to itself. A scripture itself is saying that it is inspired
The Bible does say itself it does a taste to itself that is inspired. That's why when Jesus quoted from the prophets, he said
that the scripture says that this scripture has been fulfilled in your presence today.
Right scripture is self attesting. Is there a question that you would like to put him? It's a rhetorical question.
You say, I gave you that as a test. Now, when Paul wrote that, there was no Matthew, Mark, Luke, and john.
This is what your Bible scholars, they tell us that Paul wrote this about 25 years before any other book that was ever written. So he's not talking about Matthew, Mark, Luke, and john are acts.
He's talking to Timothy about the scriptures, which he as a Jew had learned.
And the thing is to test it, put it to the test, and I gave you example, how to test it. These anything, if it is from God must be under these four headings. And I gave you, Samsung, and I can give you Ezekiel chapter 16, verse 25, and I can give you Ezekiel chapter 23, the whole of it. And we know that no decent man will be prepared to say that this is what came from God, which I would be ashamed to read, unless you are prepared to give a commentary on Ezekiel chapter 16, verse 25.
About that siren
you know, a voracious, voracious sexual woman. You know her? I don't know whether you know that one. If you know the Bible, you know her. Do you know the Bible? A lot. Right? chapter 16 verse 25, this insatiable lust opening.
You don't want me to repeat it? I'm sure you don't want to repeat it. No, I would like you. If you think that this is God's word, to read it to the audience and explain now what it is all talking about. I will do that with the chairman's consent. You may see each request coming from the speaker. Thank you.
Can I repeat what you said? You said that I must read it and explain it. Is that correct? Thank you.
Which chapter you want me to read from your two particular ones? chapter 1616. Ezekiel, verse 25, verse 25, that said, I would appreciate silence while it is 16 verse 25. Correct.
Is anybody else who wishes to make his or her way to the microphone, please stop now.
is ecovis Ezekiel 16, verse 25, says Thou has both a high place at every head of the way and is made by beauty to be a board and has opened our feet to everyone that passed by and multiply dy whoredoms. Right there is what the Holy Scripture says, inspired by a holy God. What it means is that the prostitute has opened herself up to everybody, of certain nations. Now what the scripture means is that this is figurative language.
Right? It is, if you look at the context, I will read the context if you want, but I doubt if you got the time, that the contexture is figurative language, it's not speaking about one specific woman. It's speaking about the nation of Israel. And what it means is that there is only one God, we don't deny that. And because there's only one God, there's only one way to God, there's only one way to serve God, there's only one law. And what the nation of Israel had done, was that had prostituted themselves to the other nations that had said that there is another way to serve all these various gods that had gone a whoring off to the gods. Now, we ourselves have to choose, as Israel had to
choose between whether we serve the One God with his one law, or whether we will run from the One God with his one law. We believe the Holy Scriptures teach what the One God says, Sorry, does that do justice to a commentary? If the if Mr. Diaz is happy that that is what the verse says, No, the worst says that but you see the things that are being omitted there. The
They're urut feet just now, in Hebrew, it is not feet. That's right now we do agree with shorts in Hebrew, it is not feet at all it is legs spread out what's wrong with this woman, she's prepared to pay her customers, she is prepared to pay. And like the harlots of the world. She is not that type of a harlot with
you, she is the very worst she pays you for
what you do to ordinary women, to prostitutes. Now, this is what the Holy Scripture does say. That's what it says. Now, this, that what you read just now about feet, in this fifth major revision of the New Testament, or the Bible, King James Version,
the word feet are cut out. First, it was a legs, the legs of the woman and her thighs were cut out. Now you got the feedback in this one, the feet are also taken out. So you see that this is what I'm telling you that this is not the word of God that even your learned men are ashamed to live even feet inside, see that the legs were sprawled out, they changed the American version to say the feet were sprawled out. And now the feet are also taken out the word sprawled is taken out, and the word feet is taken out, as what game are you people playing? Therefore, I said, Look, you if you believe that this is the word of God, you would never do any such things. Can I respond to that? No. Now you
give somebody else another person. Thank you very much for your time.
Thank you. Sorry, I missed the boat. On my my my Bible. Okay. Yes.
You want the Bible the Holy Scripture.
We do agree that the translations do differ. And that the, the translations very clearly did, did put it down very subtly. And I think that there is a lot of wisdom in doing that. But for me, personally, I would like the scripture to be read, as it is in the original languages, which subsequent translations do do, as, for example, my Bible, the New International Version, just one of the many translations would not say feet, it would give a more literal translation of that particular scripture. The Scriptures are useful for salvation, and therefore we need to understand what they are saying. Right, thank you very much. The next question, please lower the microphone.
Otherwise, we won't hear you.
Mr. DiMaggio, has been mentioned tonight that anisole I said that 75% of the Quran is written out of the Bible.
I don't know very much about that. But
you believe that the Quran is mesial
What do you mean this year?
What do you see?
What I'm what why don't you give me what you have in your mind your meaning what what meaning have you got? Well, that is something that has been sent down from God. Right, right. Right. Yes, Tenzin, it has been sent down,
So you believe it had been sent down? It's an inspired Word of God. But your question, my question is simple as this. You believe that the Quran is the inspired Word of God? Do you believe it? Is that the question? Yes, ma'am.
Just one question. Right. Will you take your turn if you have another question? Now, I want to qualify them. No, just your question is
what is your question? Yes. Mr. DITA accepts? Yeah, because because if I could prove to you out of the Quran, that there are pre Islamic recall
passages that are in the Quran, that is pre Islamic, that are come down from other books besides the Bible, like the Talmud and the Jewish folklore. I can read the folklore to you and I can read the Yeah, when I just read your question is Does Mr. Dida believe that the Quran as the East today for St. dongba? Revelation? Yes, his reply to that was it exception? Yeah. So I wanted to qualify that by reading the Quran.
We could anything, please.
Yes, Mr. D that you said that. God said he created the world in six days and rested on the seventh and was refreshed. Yeah. And you believe that the Quran is the ultimate miracle.
Look, I spoke for one and half hour.
I said, I spoke for one and a half hour, I gave you numerous references, thank you to say that look, the book, that the Bible that you're holding in your hand is not the word of God. And none of you are taking a single exception to what I had said, not one. I want to know whether you people are listening, I'm telling you, it is not the word of God, the book that you hold in your hand, and you nobody's answering that you're not questioning me on that at all. I just want to quote you out of the Quran.
The Quran says in Surah 2559, the world was created in six days. And there's another chapter that said the world was created in eight days, instead of 41. Was time from 212. Now Can Can you explain to be the ultimate miracle? How can we not have America who's talking about did I ever use the word ultimate miracles? Were
tonight? Yes before? No, no, no, no. What
is the is the Quran the ultimate miracle? Can you can you ask me that? Just a minute? I did. I would like to qualify that I asked specifically, can you please don't quote what was written five years ago? What was the thing? I said what he said?
No, no, I'm saying now, his question is did he say so tonight?
ultimate miracle. These two verses contradict each other the ones that six in the other side. Now explain to me that
right now, give me that reference to eight. You said eight days just give me the reference. I'll check it out for you.
Give me the reference, you gave it sooner. 2525. Just one second.
Like 2559, the other one is?
See the six days we had agreed. The Bible said six days the Quran says six days. Now we talking about eight days. Let us see what it says. He who created the heavens and the earth and all that is between in six days, and is firmly established on the throne of authority. God most gracious as thou then about him have any acquainted with such things.
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soon, I'm 41 941 you had told me 2559 41 from was 940. Well, let me get 141 first 41, from nine to 12, nine to 12.
Reading now, nine, say is that he deny Him who created the earth in two days. And do you join equals with him? He is the Lord of all the worlds. He said on the earth mountain standing firm hi about it, and bestow blessings on the earth and measure they're in all things to give them nourishment in proportion, in four days, in accordance with the needs of those who seek sustenance. Moreover, he comprehended in his design the sky, and it had been as smoke he separate and to the earth coming together, willingly or unwillingly. They said, We do come together in willing obedience. So he completed them at as seven firmaments in two days, and he assigned to each Heaven, his duty and
command, and we add on the lower heaven with lights and provided with God, such as the decree of him, the Exalted in my full of knowledge.
So four plus two and two is right.
You see, there is a very comprehensive commentary if you read the commentary.
If you read the commentary, it would have answered your problem.
But unfortunately, you see you just quoting something and you don't read what the whole thing is all about. And you're jumping to conclusion.
This thing if you haven't got this, you remember the previous questioner asked what book this is. So I said this is a translation by Abdullah Yusuf Ali.
Right, you get that? Right. When you read the commentary, it answers your problem. Right. I don't agree that the Quran is the ultimate miracle. No, thank you very much. There is a Christian are coming to the microphone.
Please. Good evening.
Good evening. Dr. deedat. What day is it today?
Is that the So that's just one thing when at least,
I'm going to allow you one question. So please ask the pertinent question. Otherwise, you're going to have one loading up. I must stop you at the wrong place. That's right. I want to relate it to the Scripture. I want to know what day it is today. I can answer that to you. Thank you. It's Tuesday, the 12th. Today to 12 1900 8888. When has that started?
What means 98?
No, no, no, no, you're referring to the year of the law type of thing the law
has created that day, when the start of the Bible of the New Testament. From that day, when you go back to history, 640 years has to prove and be negated.
All right, well, now what is? Sorry? What is your question? My question is, how do you know what you believe is true? Thank you, thank you. Like, take your time, go to the bank.
You see, there are numerous, numerous reasons.
Which makes me to believe that this book is true,
Number one, this book was given to a man who didn't know how to read or write
what we call an ami, in Arabic, unlettered,
he bought this book about the very physical size of this book.
If this was Muhammad's production,
compared to the Holy Bible,
40 different authors wrote this book
40 different people went along to produce this book. This is one man job.
Who said that?
Which man who said that?
no, no, no, no, no, no, thank you. Please, please, please, please, please, please, please
don't do that.
You say, this book.
supplies the answer to what Jesus said. He said, I have yet many things to say unto you.
But he cannot pay them now. How we, when he The Spirit of Truth is come, He will guide you into all truth. This book guides mankind into all truth. Meaning solves all your problems. The Holy Bible doesn't do that. Jesus Christ Himself, He says, I got many things to say, and you are incapable of receiving it. And he didn't give you and nor the Holy Ghost has told any church in in this past 2000 years solution to the problem of race, solution to the problems of alcoholism. solution to the problem of surplus women. There are dozens of problems to which this book does not give an answer. Whereas Jesus Christ prophesied that there's somebody coming after me and it is he who will give you
a solution to all your problems. Then in the book of Isaiah, chapter 29, verse 12,
you read a prophecy.
He says in the book, the book is given to him that is not learned.
And only say, read, and he says Monogatari and he said, I'm not learned.
The book, what Buddha is talking about, which Prophet said, I am not learned. Now, if you read the history of Muhammad, his life, the verse of Revelation that was given to him in the cave of Hira, the Archangel Gabriel comes to him and commands him in his mother tongue to read and he says, Man, I'm sorry, I'm not learning the word for word fulfillment, from the book of Isaiah. Then in the book of Deuteronomy, chapter 18, verse 19, it says, any shall come to pass, that whosoever will not happen into my words, which he that Prophet mentioned in 1818 speaks in my name, so I will require it of him.
Now, is that profit speaking in my name,
in whose name is Muhammad speaking.
He says Bismillahi Rahmani Raheem in the name of God most Gracious, Most Merciful.
Bismillahi Rahmani Raheem in the name of God most Gracious, Most Merciful. Palazzo peppiness Bismillahi Rahmani Raheem every chapter of the Quran begins with
formula in the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful, like these are all the fulfillments which goes to prove that the Quran is the word of God.
If the Quran is the word of God, then it must not borrow. It's fast. It's material from folklore, Jewish folklore, and traditions. I might read one, four, I just
did say that you must put a question to Mr. D. Can you put it in the form of a question that might be a very valuable point, another nestopia. This is this is simply to disprove that the Quran is the word of God.
I want to read this passage of Scripture. There was this passage from the Quran 27 Surah 27 from verse 17.
And there was gathered together unto Solomon is armies of jinn, and humankind and of birds, and they were certain battle order.
Sir, thank you. Now, what is the question to them? I said, Please put that in the form of a question, you'll get an answer. But if this is the word of God, why is it borrowed from the Jewish folklore? All right. I'm going to read another passage. No, no, I think your point is made that the Jewish folklore to you No, no, there's no tie up. your point is well made that why if the Quran is God's word, why did God
take from the Jewish folklore? Yeah, because the God with Jewish folklore predates predates the Islamic Advent. No, thank you. Thank
you. Yeah, no, no, I know about Israel, I think your question is well taken please.
You see, if you read the book of john, the last chapter, Gospel of St. JOHN,
Verse 25, the last verse, it says, and there are also many other things that Jesus did, which if they were written one by one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that would be written, amen.
That means there will be so many books which are not here. Does he say that, that if the all the books that were written about Jesus, if they were to be contained in a book, even the whole world can contain them?
So there could be other things which are not recorded here?
That's what the implication is. Then you read in the Old Testament in the book of Joshua?
Is this not written in the Book of Joshua?
It says, another place, another name, there are 10 books. There are 10 different books mentioned in the Bible, which are not in the Bible.
I wonder if you know them. Yes, Mr. Mr. deride the Jewish folklore is not scripture is legends, is it? If this was written in the Book of Joshua, and if God Almighty has copied from the book of Joshua, that bill, it must be something valuable. If God Almighty is having it copied from the book of Joshua? No, it's not the God Almighty copy from them who it was Muhammad who copied it.
Thank you. Could I have the next question? Please? Can I read it? Please? Can I read the Jewish for No, I? Look, I your point is made and I accepted. But did you did you receive your answer? Could I have the next question? Would you mind going to the back of the queue please?
another rhetorical question.
The claim that the Bible is not the word of God, and that nobody has refuted that tonight. Let me say unequivocably without any shadow of doubt that this is the word of God, or I could mess it in place. We don't mind. There is a cause alarm that's going off. Toyota Corolla
gi x ca 575343. alarm is going off. I'm sorry, sir.
Thank you. I just want to
ask if the Quran has a comparable passage,
john three verses 16 through 21. It says, For God so loved the world, that he gave His one and only Son that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in Him is not condemned. But whoever does not believe stands condemned already.
Because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son, sorry, this is the verdict.
basically want to know as you got the Quran God, verse comparable to that which speaks of God so loved the world that exchange is only begotten Son. No, no. Can I read the rest of the passages so that you can see what the question is? I'll give you one more shot. Okay.
This is the verdict. light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light, because their deeds were evil. Sorry. Thank you. I do believe that Mr. de la gets the drift of you. I'm sure he would like to reply to
the question I haven't understood at all you are reading verses. But what is the question? Can I read the remainder of the verses that we can give the question? critically? I think basically, the question depends on the remainder of the verses.
Your question, in essence, is, as the Quran got the verse comparable to that, is that correct? Now, can you just repeat the last portion of the last the most potent one, okay. Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the life of fear these deeds will be exposed, but whoever lives by the truth comes into the light. So it may be seen plenty that what he has done has been done through God. Thank you. The question about whether the Quran has something comparable, is can the Quran give one the assurance of eternal life now,
because of what somebody has done on one's behalf, who is one left in uncertainty for the whole of eternity? You're referring,
referring to doctrine of atonement, Jesus dying for the fathers? That's right. Mr. Dida
was the Quran tears as
that electabuzz son,
that you are all following conjecture, guess what fiction?
All this idea, the Quran says is fiction.
Rama Cthulhu yochanan. For a machete they killed him not. And if you read the Bible, the Bible, the one that you have New International Version, if you read it, and if you analyze it is not what you're thinking. You see, Jesus Christ, we needed to this has got nothing to do with the subject.
The question question was before there's one and a half hour, the Quran or the Bible, which is God's word. And now you're taking us off all at a tangent, and you want me to deliver a speech, that is
to deliver a speech that that's actually the word you have now posing, you read almost half a chapter of john, chapter three, verse 16, and onwards,
what you're looking for now, the whole audience know that you read about half a chapter there. And now you are posing certain things. Now we have to speak to you explain to you about theology, that this does not prove that this or that is the word of God, I gave you examples, from the Quran and the Bible, which makes the Quran to be the Word of God and the Bible not to be the Word of God. And you still you haven't not asked a single question with regards what I've said.
I'm telling you, the Bible you're holding is not the word of God.
You haven't done anything to prove to the contrary, or to answer my allegation, whatever I said, I said, Look, this Samson going into Gaza, and going into the prostitute, having sex with your New International Version says he spent the whole night with her. That's what your book says. Now, this book tells us plainly, he went in unto her, he means it had sex with her, and that when you are getting there now, what does it say? It says he spent the whole night with her. What worshiping her what was she doing there?
No, can I answer the question? This, this you your question on my subject.
I said the Quran or the Bible, which is God's word, and I gave you numerous examples to say these things disqualifies that book from being called the Word of God was Margiela we make to order Allah subhana wa Taala has blessed us all with the insight so that we can counter the onslaught with effect and not by getting wild or hot under the collar for nothing. shukran zyzzyva salam aleikum wa rahmatullah wa barakato.
Good evening to everyone. Mr. Chairman, I just want to ask one question. The word is, is the word of the Bible. True or is the Quran true? Is that fact?
Say I was giving you references with Jesus Christ is made to contradict himself.
Jesus makes a statement that of those whom you gave me I have lost man.
simple basic English, you don't need a dictionary for that. I have lost men.
previous chapter is that I lost only one.
Now you tell me which of these two statement is true? One of them is definitely not true.
this is the whole story that everything is the same story. I've been giving you examples, that God tells his profits to go about naked. The Quran says No, he doesn't insert anybody do anything shameful. between the two. I'm asking the religion one side, which is true, that God Almighty will tell you to go out naked in front of your mother, your sister, your daughter, will tell you to cover yourself up. What would you do? Our common sense same reasoning says God will not tell you to do any such such shameful things. Yes, I agree with that. But
I'm not condemning Quran I'm not condemning the Bible. Am I just a new Christian, but I say there is Jesus because in the word of Jesus, I have seen people heal at the touch of the word Jesus. I've seen people's heart being restored. I'm not going to argue further with it. But I say, I'm not worried about the Bible so much, or I'm not worried about the Quran so much. But um, I say in the name of Jesus, there's power and people can be cured. And if you want some
example the way I've got a hot case, a Muslim lady was from archaeal Hospital was sent down to home to die. But today, today, I can bring
a question I say there's still power in the name of Jesus. Thank you.
You see, Brother, you know, all this boast about healing people with heart troubles and cancer. And some Muslim lady was good. Look, the hospitals are full. If you ever been to King Edward a hospital.
When you see that your heart bleeds for everybody.
Hospitals go and help the people around to Muslim homes.
troubleshoot cancer, look 1000s of our brothers and sisters, you know, Africans Indians color, they're dying.
And you are wasting your time running from door to door when the customers are there by the 1000s every morning. Why don't you go and have them?
However, this is this is a rhetoric question. I'm not I'm not asking you to respond. But the fact is, look, this is the obvious thing if you had the power, God gave it to you go to the hospitals help the people instead of wasting your time.
This is an extremely important gathering, to treat, expose the speakers and then do it people who ask question Could you
please try to raise your voices and applause as appropriate time but it says please trying to excuse about
Mr. De dot. I like to say to you that the Christian has no power to heal the sick. We don't do no healing. If we could do healing, we will ntrk Khan's hospital. And if we could do healing, we will empty every hospital in the world. We don't do the healing only Jesus does the healing through us. And I want to say something that relating to the topic outline I like to ask the chairman if I could
be wrong I just want to make one statement at a time that
we are not permanent I'm sure Mr. data to lecture here. I'm gonna say
you may ask questions don't make statements.
Unless you want to the statement in the form of a question.
Would you like to frame the
question or I like to ask him a question. How much of power does the Quran S
to save a person's life giving a joy and a reason for living like the Bible?
And this one would be before you even study that. The Quran has no power
to change a person's life and hear me out. It is a dead book. It is unreachable. Unidentified
Okay. Thank you, Mr. D. that an open secret to spirit. Thank you.
You see, this is the proof.
This is the proof. This is not unique to this hall.
I delivered the same talk in Johannesburg, and they will prove them wrong groups of Christian missionaries.
And we allowed them one full hour for question. And there was not one question on what I'd say. There is no Christian born who can contradict anything that I've said tonight, there isn't one born
irrefutable evidence I've given you. Now you have to come and tell me that this was a flying saucer, or it was a helicopter. Tell me Tell us tell these people. Yeah, but there isn't. This is what happens. And that describes it was in the Holy Quran. scible Nazi football hockey lol bottle. When truth is hurts against falsehood, it knocks out its brains. No questions. I tell you, I get it. There's no question.
This is a lesson for the Muslims, that Allah has given you that power. I tell you, there isn't a Christian born
who can answer what we are presented tonight.
That this is not befitting the majesty of God, the language, the stories, I haven't come out with the whole I just put them aside. rather give you a chance in case you say look, this guy's for two hours. And he's not giving us any chance that hardly any questioner
grows and grows in Cape Town grows and grows and they set the words in the through the grapevine. Don't go and ask me that questions. You're going to make a fool of yourself. So they don't want to come forward. So you make charges. What has the Quran done?
slung through the Quran through this one verse. It eliminated four major evils one verse.
up the enamel hammer. Oh, most certainly intoxicants. Well my sorrow and gambling well and Sabu and fortunetelling. Well, Islam when I will wish you
are an abomination of Satan's handiwork. First Honey Boo Boo La La Quinta.
When this was was revealed, wine barrels were emptied in the streets of Medina never to be revealed.
The most perfect, complete and lasting revolution in the history of mankind, one verse, and evil was abolished for good no minor worship, no more fortune telling no more alcohol.
This one verse created the biggest Society of teetotallers in the world.
The most things are the biggest Society of people who don't imbibe alcohol.
This one was did it? What are you talking about that book?
This book with all your miracles, miracles, as with all these miracles, you worship him? I know in my Indian Christian,
the lies that have been speaking, Jim Baker, the line, Garmin, the line,
can you see, blah, blah, what are you talking about? Look in South Africa.
statistics, statistics, they tell us that the Muslim is the lowest alcoholic consumption in the country.
These are statistics.
They have no statistics for Africans. They have no statistics for Indians, but they say the color community, five times the amount of alcoholics as any other race in the country, five times the amount
that Malaysia is
the lowest in the country, the Christian color,
five times the amount of any other race in the country. This is what your book has done. I said 8% of the white people who read this book In such instances, as the committee grading committee, says 13% of the American people are committing incest. We're not talking about changing your life. I want to know what life It has changed.
What is this? Come forward? Look, I said that what I have presented to you I presented a case to you. Look, this is not befitting God. This is not the word of God. contradictions abound. You say 150 6000 difference for 40. Jesus, come on, man. Come
read it. You don't know the
Bible. He doesn't read the Bible is a newborn Christian is a new Christian. He doesn't read the Bible. Jesus saved him.
What is this? I have spoken for an hour and a half. Were you listening?
Was my English too hard on yours? What is it?
What has happened to you know, the Quran give the answer. Burns is knocked out, come forward. Let's see this brothers. Yeah. If you have any question on the southern come welcome,
no one is world Avenue
is one one man that knew the length, to sacrifice and to get forgiveness for our sin and to reveal all of our from sin
and become short of the glory of God. No one can enter into heaven without being
Jesus to what I meant to 21 man.
One man that is
give me the name of the neck that knew
can do it on his own. But he has the power. Yes.
He's not a matter of genius. It is a matter of jockey.
gone to all the brothers, Christian.
Jewish. I'd like to direct one question to Mr. g that
this may be in reference to the discrepancies in the Bible.
I may not have been here earlier have been a bit late. But the question is
the law of Moses is that the first commandment is, I am the Lord thy God. Thou shall have no other God besides me. Why am I jealous God. So if that be if that is the case, when did God become triplicates?
See, the question is he says he wants to know God is one. This was the commandment given by God Almighty to the Holy Prophet Moses the first commandment. So here, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. When he did this one, God become a triplicate, three in one.
Well, the Christian world in the third century in the year 325. They defied Jesus. They made him into a God say they collected the bishop from all over the Christian bishops, and they voted Jesus Christ as God. And they started believing in what they call the athanasian Creed, Father, Son and Holy Ghost. To the father is God, the son is God and the Holy Ghost is God. But they are not three Gods but one God. This creed in the Catechism of the Christians, Roman Catholic and Anglican, Presbyterian Lutheran, Methodist Jinja catechism says, the father is almighty the son is almighty and the Holy Ghost is almighty, but they are not the Almighty is but one almighty. And it continues.
The father is a person the son is a person and the Holy Ghost is a person, but they are not 3% but one person. This is the creation of the church.
This is not the teaching of Jesus Christ.
So we have passed the Christians Where did you get this Trinity from? Because Jesus didn't teach that you see in the Gospel of St. Matthew, chapter 12, Chapter 12, verse nine, a learned man of the Jew comes to Jesus had master in the Hebrew language, Rabbi, what commandment is the first of all, and Jesus answers and says unto him, in the Hebrew language, Shema Yisrael, Adonai eloheinu Adonai. So Hebrew Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one that is teaching. It is no different from Islam, the teaching of Moses
in the fundamental
triplicates the triplicate got three in one carbon copies. And they're not even carbon copies. They're not even alive. So triplicate is carbon copy.
This three in one is not carbon copy, because I'm asking the learned man of Christian them that when you say in the name of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Ghost This is
the Shahada. He says in the name of the Father, and the Son and the Holy Ghost.
And those three pictures are distinctly different.
In his mind, the father looks different, the son looks different, and the Holy Ghost looks different, unless the mind is diseased. They must be different. Fathers in the name of the Father, the thinking of that old Father Christmas sitting on some planet with a feed then we want to deal with as footstool. A loving Father in heaven as this cannot be millions and millions of times bigger than men, but something like a man, an old man, with long beard, Father, Son, is thinking of Jesus Christ, the handsome young man, like you saw in the King of kings, or in Jesus of Nazareth, didn't have his blue eyes, blonde hair,
got the sun, and got the Holy Ghost, something that came like a dove when Jesus was baptized in the River Jordan by john the baptist, was something that came in flames of fire at Pentecost, there are three distinct mental pictures, Father looks different, son looks different. And the Holy Ghost looks different. And there's not carbon copies, they're not carbon copies, carbon copies are identical,
is all three distinct and actually that three they have in their heads. In other words, the worshipping three Gods not one, they say with the mouth, one in the mind, they have three. So this is not the teaching of Jesus. This is the invention of the church. We have to help our brethren freedom, that look even in the Bible. This was on the Trinity. first episode of john chapter five, verse seven, is not thrown out as a fabrication from all modern translation thrown out as a fabrication. For there are three that bear upon in heaven, the Father, the Word and the Holy Ghost, and these three are one is thrown out as a fabrication as an interpolation. So God is not a
triplicate, nor is he three in one, Quran says while otaku selasa don't say Trinity into Harlequin This is typically better for you in nama La Villa for your Allah your God Almighty is one God is not three in one is not a triplicate
Mr. deedat may ask you two questions, please. One at a time, one at a time. Okay. And which is from your point of view, which is God's word, the crown of the Bible.
I'd like to I'd like in the first question.
You see, you are like the young man. I was telling my boyfriend Brian, you the first question. I was telling him before coming in.
I said amazing situation. You see you tell a fellow story about Romeo and Juliet. You heard about Romeo and Juliet. Yes, we have Layla Majnoon. No Layla, masamune Laila, Laila. I mean, she was a black as night and Madonna was mad over this woman. See? So whole night you tell the story about Layla. Imagine, you know Romeo and Juliet. in the morning.
The clever man is asking whether Romeo was a boy or a girl.
All night you heard the story. I'm telling you explaining to you that the Quran the Bible is not the word of God. The Quran is the word of God. And are you asking me? This is the word of God? Okay, I said that right? You said that the Quran is the word of God. Yes. Then explain this to me. Surah 41, nine o'clock, we read that the world was created in eight days. But we read in Surah 754 that the word was created in six days. Explain that to me. I think that's the last question.
This is this was really a question. That's the only question tonight first question, we must give him another applause.
Salama am answering that brother. This is
as if this was the first question tonight by God.
He said you see the Quran we mentioned in the Quran just now I read to you that the Bible says the God created the heavens and the earth in six days. The currency is created in six days, but the days are we won't go into details. Six days, six days, equals another chapter chapter 41 was a song so 910 1112 he says he says God created the heavens in the earth in eight days. Now, he hasn't read his readings thumb sucking from somebody somebody told him so any other words if he saw the Quran, the Quran doesn't say anywhere. That God created them.
But there is some, there is some basis for his question.
The Quran doesn't say you see, like what I said one man, that's a contradiction.
For 40, there's a contradiction. If the Quran says six, eight, also contradiction, we'll have to admit. But the Quran doesn't talk like that at all.
It doesn't talk like that at all. This is a key from what somebody said, he doesn't know, if I give him the Quran, he can never find it.
He will be able to read that God created the earth in two days. And then everything has in four days. And he created the heavens in two days.
And speaks to full two. So he says eight.
You see, this has stages stages, God is talking about the earth itself. He started the creation, to periods of time to eons to stupendous periods of time.
And side by side with the thing that went on to Earth, this creation, this foundation of the earth, and this, that took four days.
Alone, this work took two days, this and that put together to four days. And the rest another two days, Ian's periods of time.
So now, you see 242 that makes eight assists. No, no, no, he didn't say eight. Now he's explaining to you how you are getting it wrong. And if he was here, this young man, I would have done him a favor. I said, Look, man, I want to give you some money.
He deserves a look. He was only first man to ask question. If he's here. If he can come forward. I'll be very happy. While the other brother is asking the question. Please come forward. I have something for you. And I'll give it to you by God. Come come forward. The young man Don't feel shy. Where is the young man?
I hope he hasn't gone away.
Please. You deserve this. Please come come up.
Do I do ask the question then? I'll say yes, your question. Salam aleikum wa rahmatullah wa barakato. Alhamdulillah. I will say kamati that wrote, The Bible is not the word of God with providing reasonable, solid facts. So my question is this. Being Muslims, we believe all the divine books revealed by God Almighty. So angel is one of them. So what is the angel that we believe in Islam?
I think our brother missed the point. When I said that we Muslims, we believe in the Torah, we believe in the Sabu, we believe in the MG. And I said, that aspect is dealt with in this book, and this book is absolutely free of charge to everybody. What is the Torah? What is the de PUE? What is the G, as a look, we have dealt with it before. I do not want to waste your time going into this aspect because it's already covered in this book. But briefly, Torah is a revelation, the washi, that God Almighty gave masala Salah, the Zaboo is the revelation the washi, that God Almighty Gimpo has a Dowdell Islam David. The Injeel is the revelation that God Almighty gave me he said, Islam,
Jesus Christ, is the revelation, the revelation, the revelation, that is what we believe that what was given was from God. It was genuine, infallible Word of God. But we are at a
see what they say. Now Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy is the Torah. No, we analyze it, we will analyze it is not the words of Moses even not besides being the Word of God is not even the words of Moses. This is about the same, the Injeel we have been doing it the whole night is not the words of Jesus, the book, The New Testament, but the details are available in this book. As you go out, you collect this book, and you have the details. If you have any problem and understand anything when you come back to the
shop. Now this young man here, as he deserves a price
I have with me, three
to run nodes
and there's not very much
free to run notes and I want to present it in such a way my son
give you a
Mr. Director, I want to know by you
having this debate and
change telling people the Quran is the word of God and the Bible is another word of God. What are you actually profiting? Or what are you actually achieving? from this?
You see what I'm achieving is? Am this abusing the minds of people who are infatuated with the book.
infatuated people love. You're infatuated with the book. So look, this is not the book of God, freeing you from the shackles that somebody has
found your head for you from those and telling my people this is we are victims today in this country, especially they coming in knocking at our door.
Remember, this is Christian publication.
I want to teach them
when this guy comes along next time, you know how to deal with
the Jehovah's Witness comes along. Certainly pay 1313 I didn't have time to go into all this detail but maybe read the book as a 1313. But as a as a Jehovah's Witness comes along.
He says yes, this is his trademark away
50,000 errors in the Bible.
It says 50,000 errors in the Bible is a true
lesson and show you how to deal with this guy. You come along. You want me to leave the Quran and take this
that's the purpose of the Christian if you're a missionary, you have been by the 1000s going and knocking doors you know that
you are a new convert. How did you become a convert? Somebody came and knocked at your door. But you're also not a
Muslim to know when this guy comes along how to respond
that he is wanting you to change something good. Something that is nice. I said 10 cases of incest there's not one in this book.
Adultery murder rape brothers living sisters is there is there
if you are a Christian, nothing like that.
what you want me to do live this book.
So I'm adding these people they must know and they discovered play if they have any sense that if they only master what I have given them there isn't a Christian born Bishop who can stand before anyone else. Just master this one.
There isn't a Christian who can stand before them. But the trouble is the too damn lazy
Yeah, can I swim?
And by you having this meetings what is the fruit what fruit Did you get out of the come in?
A lot of bananas and apples are now they may be thinking that because that was the total you know they are a bit carnal minded.
I mean, what else did you really get out of it? by this? I mean, how many Christian came to you and say I'm gonna do that. Now on to put on Christianity and Islam because I've seen the truth in it.
Yeah, things like that. We have converted since we started the words more than 6500 people, Hindus,
Hindus, Christians and Jews. More than 6500 my little office has done so far. Now. I want each and every Muslim to get involved. Every Muslim should be doing the job is not one man job is not one society. His job is every Muslims job as every Christian is trying to do the work for his belief, the Muslim must do the same. And if one out of all this
if one fellow is benefited, my exercise is what if I have saved one Muslim from falling into
The mess being tantalized for a Christian wife or some money or want to take revenge on his parents. He wants to become a Christian if he sees this, and it works. You see there is a Jamal Khan is a movie in Marion Hill movie involving like a priest, Muslim priest. We have no priesthood. But take it is Jamal Khan by name.
He came to Berlin many years ago,
when when I arranged the lecture for him, he was in the house at dinner.
And while at the table, he tells me he says, you know, Mr. D, that
you saved my life.
So I'm scanning in my head.
Soon, so something when I was drowning, I pulled him out. And somebody else said there as I helped him, too.
But when did I save your life?
So he says, you know,
around 1951 52 said your brother in law was in the Springfield, government and hospital TB hospital and used to come there every week. He said, Yes. He said, You see, at that time, I was also a patient in the TB hospital.
So he said, You see, they were Christian missionaries harrassing, your brother in law.
And you came one day with a Bible. And you were showing them contradictions in the Bible. And he says, I was watching over your shoulder.
I don't know. He says I was watching over your shoulder. And what you showed them to the Christian missionaries.
I saw and I thought of myself because I was training for the police to the Muslim house training for the priesthood. I was about to be ordained. And what I saw, as is no man, I'm wasting my time I'm barking up the wrong tree is that for certificates? He's a Malvina a priest in Marion Hill. That I didn't know if he didn't tell me I would know. And there could be dozens, yeah.
If they the fate can be saved by listening to this. So look, man, we're gonna fall into this, where it is what this book has done to Garmin, and Baker and sweigart will do to you what is bring to the Americans
13% of the American people, they are committing incest with their own daughters, as you will do the same 8% of the whites, Christians in South Africa committing incest with our daughters, as you do the same. So I'm trying to warn my brother and keep away from this book, Bernard Shaw said, the most dangerous book on Earth, but I want them to study it in conjunction with my book, get this book, and then use that as a textbook. This is a book of instructions and use this will be valuable. If not, you also going to go the same way as I got.
the last one.
Believe me, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Director, I must congratulate you Mr. Chairman, for the calm way in which you've conducted the meeting this evening.
I'm not going to accord the same grace to Mr. Dida. And that is the question I want to ask him. Obviously, I'm not of his faith, and he knows me. And, Mr. deedat, what I would like to ask you is you pointed out to us that in the Quran, it says that Allah is loving.
What does Allah require of his servants?
What does Allah require of his servants? If he is a loving be? What is required research?
What he requires from us from all is to believe in Him and follow His commandments. For this is the duty of men.
Listen to God, believe in God and keep His commandments. This is what you do that he loves you and He will reward you. you disobey you pay the price.
That is that answer your question? Yes, it doesn't away or continue. If I can sing this. I'm the last one. Perhaps you give me the license.
In the Quran as well.
It says that Jesus Christ is a prophet. So you admit to the existence of Jesus Christ.
What is your question? Or are you admitted? What is your question? My question is,
like in a court of law, you are not interrogating me as a public prosecutor.
What is your
conclusion of what you have in mind? My question is that Jesus Christ in john chapter 15, tells us that he gives up people like Amanda, especially those who follow him, that they love one another. He has loved them. Why? Because he laid down his life for them while they were yet sinners. Now that is the same
Love, I believe that you are telling me that Allah is talking about. Therefore if you are going to show love. And I mean, you said there was 1.8 billion Christians who don't agree with you, if you are going to show that same love towards us, why not have the same persuasion of you? Why are you antagonistic? Why don't you show that characteristic of love towards these people hoping to convince the mother
Jesus Christ is described to be the most loving person on earth. He is supposed to be the Lamb of God, me and humble.
Men listen to him.
You generation a lifers. You brood of snakes. You hypocrites. You wicked and adulterous generation, you fools you.
Who is he talking about? He's talking.
So in other words, this was sitting with Jesus.
And all whatever I said tonight was more.
Despite the stupendous contrast between the language used by you and me, is to say Jesus is the humble level, you still say?
He said, on his march in Jerusalem, if you remember
me, not that I should reign over them, bring them
I'm only speaking of reason and it's a natural thing. That is the thing goes against the grain. It makes a noise.
I'll add one more just comment on what he said. You know,
The one thing I would like to say is when Jesus Christ castigated the staff in the Pharisees, the result was that they became totally estranged from him. I'm saying your attitude tonight, as perhaps done the same. Thank you.
To our young.
You have obviously done extensive research
and education. So I thank you
for sharing your interpretating
asking those questions