Adnan Rajeh – Scientific Mentions in the Quran – an Approach to Prophetic Traditions

Adnan Rajeh
AI: Summary © The speakers discuss various issues related to the concept of history and faiths, including the use of science and tools to understand the sun's movement, flood and floodings, and the "bylaws" used to push against religion. They stress the importance of purposeful research and the need for evidence to support their claims. The use of the Quran in political and scientific topics, including the universal source of evidence, is also emphasized. The conversation covers the negative impact of violence and the importance of valuing one's own worth, emphasizing the need for individuals to create a human environment that inspires them to do things that they can contribute to, such as sharing a video about a woman doing well during the pandemic.
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with us, okay. So

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today, because yesterday, I was hoping to get get into a little bit more, I actually had a couple of things I wanted to cover, I only covered the first piece, it's making too much noise. And

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so there was a couple things I'm going to cover yesterday that I failed to do. So just based on time, I only talked about history and the prophets and faiths and whatnot. I didn't get into the Quranic mentions of science, or the issues of, of Hadith I had, which I'm going to talk about today a bit. And then I'm going to go into the problem of evil and suffering in the world and maybe even do a little bit of an introduction to Destiny, as much as possible. I'm going to try and make tomorrow. Yeah, my final session, I feel like maybe the seventh one, I will just point out, I just I just go through

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miscellaneous points that that miscellaneous points that are used against the snap, just to kind of point them out and offer kind of floor for questions. If there are questions, if they're not, it'll end up being a shorter session. Not that I've covered everything I want to cover, but I'm just getting tired. And I think everyone else is getting tired as well. So let's let's, let's kind of take a continuous or a second or next step from what we talked about yesterday, going through the concept of history and faiths and prophets and why Islam, which is what we talked about yesterday, takes us to

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two issues, next

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to the issue of how Quran, how they, how we approach the Quran, when it comes to talking about scientific mentions, this is very important because it's, it does cause a lot of problems for people. And I think it's worth worth addressing and kind of talking about a little bit it does, it does shake the faith of a lot of Muslims, unfortunately. So I'm gonna give you some examples of how they go after the Quran from a scientific perspective, pointing out that there are mistakes or that there are inaccuracies. So how should Allah subhanaw taala for that to be the case. But Danny, it's important to first to kind of develop a little bit of a of an approach for that

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proper one. So for example, Giovanni ships the fact that the Sun runs with Kim Soo Ji really Mr. Karela De Luca, Taka de who lives easier on him. So the and it's used as in me know now that this the Earth is the one that's kind of rotating around the sun, it's not the sun that's rotating around the Earth. So he's saying he really was takari Lohan, which means that you know, the whoever wrote this book doesn't know that the sun is not the sun is not rotating around the Earth is the earth rotating around the sun. And that's just based again, on a on a forced understanding. And if we go back to some of the fallacies that we talked about, to begin with is a straw man fallacy. You decide

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you interpret the verse the way you want, and then you go after the interpretation, the way that doesn't suit you. And we know for a fact that the sun is soaring through space at at speeds that are in the hundreds of 1000s of kilometers per minute, or per hour. And we know that the Sun, Mr. Karela, has a meaning to his destiny, which is wherever Allah subhanaw taala sees his destiny to be meaning wherever the last point of its sorting will be like, it will come to a point it will stop. And that's where the end of of its existence will will occur. But we don't actually have to have to understand it as in it is it moves from from the east to the west that that system was Takara. And

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even if it were, this is basically a verse that is pointing out what the human being observes, I don't see the sun soaring in the space, I see the sun going from the east to the west, that's what I see it doing. So unless the sun is actually completely, it's sitting in one spot and not moving. And this there's really no problem with this idea whatsoever. Unless the sun is something space is just sitting in one spot and not moving at all, then this is completely fine. No matter how you want to understand it's not going to cause a problem. But again, these fallacies are problematic because they continue to cause a lot of issues with people as they as they listen to them. But the problem

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with this, with the concept of the Sun movement is really not the idea. The problem is the Hadith where he says so I tell them Yanni, when he talks about without, you know what the sun goes after it, that's any there's no reason it goes in it prostrates to his Lord, and then either it sends it back the next day, or he doesn't surprise her with data and that's the Hadith. So then we're kind of we're coming back to the same problem that I talked about initially a couple of a couple of days ago, is how are you going to understand this hadith? How are you going to set it literally? Do you actually have the tools that allow you to understand this hadith literally Can you can you say that

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what is what are you imagining when you say that the son goes and speaks to Allah subhanaw taala and is prostrates under the under the throne? What is the son prostrating under the throne of God look like? What are you imagining whatever it is that you're thinking about is incorrect because that's what it is. The only way you can possibly understand this hadith is metaphorically like this. There's no other way and metaphor

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Luckily leaves no problem with understanding the Hadith altogether, it doesn't really contradict anything that we have scientifically at all, I can just tell you what I'm trying to go by this or this is not gonna come in making sense to you. When you when the Prophet Allah has lots of talks about certain things, talks about certain phenomena and explained to the Sahaba or phenomena is, at least thought to tell me he's not trying to explain to them the scientific, geologic, geological, biological, or astronomical existence of any of these things. Like that's not his goal. I think it's talked to us and I'm speaking from a religious perspective, religion, when religion speaks of things

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religion isn't interested in explaining the how that's not what religion is here to do. That's not his job is not as function religion is to explain to you the underlying the second layer the layer behind as in why he wants that, what's the point of it? What's the idea that allows it to be poetic to be meaningful to to offer fulfillment, but that's what he explains some of the highlights up until Sahaba. For us to take these explanations that are designed to answer that question, and try to project it upon the question of, of science or the issue of scientific facts is a fallacy that we are actually practicing ourselves. These are both is a mistake that we're doing. We're taking

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something that had a specific goal, and we're trying to project it on something that is not at school. And then the wondering after we do that, why is it causing so much fuss? And then we get it? We wonder why is it causing people to lose it? Because you're you're putting you're taking something and putting in this wrong spot. It's like you're trying to shove a circle into a into a square opening. And you're wondering why it's not going through and why people don't think and don't feel good about it, because that's not where it's supposed to go.

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Another example is the duration of the of the creation of the universe with the cone, for example. And I talked about that before. So it's not going to be I'm not going to spend too much time going over it. But he says the pilot without a seat at the AM. Well, we know that it's 14, something just around 14 billion years, well, 14 billion years is Gnostics days. Yeah. Well, if you understand that word day in that area as in the 24 hour period that we exist in Sure. But there were days in Arabic doesn't mean that there were do mean period of time, period of time, it is not defined, or whoever defined it will, whoever wants to define it. So it's not something that is we can just sit to do a

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Yum, we know for sure that it's not our days, this is something this is the fact that before science, meaning the Sahaba know the logline who knew that when he said six days is not referring to our days, it was referring to God's days. So we already know that that's even before any scientific breakthrough occurred historically, if that makes sense that this was already established, like way before. So since we know that there's six of God's days, well, what are how long are Gods days? That's, that's an issue. That is no, we don't know. Now we're understanding the actual the actual period itself is being explained to us. Now scientists explain to us what that actually looks like.

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But we don't really need that, we just need to understand that it took a long time, because what six symbolizes in the Arabic language six symbolizes a long time, six of God's period meet periods mean, it's a long period of time, which is really all that matters, which is the actual point that you're supposed to take away from understanding or reciting this verse in the Quran. I talked about that in a previous session, so I'm not going to spend too much time on it. A third example,

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the flood that occurred during the time of Satan and ohada, he set up this is a really good one. This is a big problem between between faith and science. There is no there's absolutely no evidence that the Earth at any point in the last 10 To 15 to 20,000 years was flooded fully. There's absolutely no evidence to support that at all anywhere. And that was used by a lot of agnostics or atheists to push back against religion because of the narration of of the of the flood that occurred during a time of no hottie. So here's the caveat that's very important for us. It in the Old Testament, and biblically, the way that it's described, it does seem that the way that it's being

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described that the flood occurred upon all of planet Earth, that is the way that it seems to be described in the, in the Bible.

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In the Old Testament, as well. There is absolutely no evidence in the Quran that it occurred upon everyone mean when it went off, I knew who actually talks about it when new ideas to fun or his flows talked about, there is absolutely no evidence that it occurred upon all of Earth at all. It is just talking about a specific group of people a specific part of Lilia or Dubliner, Akira SML playing a piece of Earth take your your water and the sky Stop, stop raining. It is talking about a lack a specific group of people meaning the punishment going into the group of new highly history. The Quran actually doesn't have anywhere in it. A reference to the flood covering all of Earth

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meaning it's not something that we actually have in our plan at all, but it is biblical in his old testament. So that's where this has been used. And this is where I think I need Subhanallah we learned the lessons. Whatever the hand of man comes in manipulates texts This is what happens. Whenever the hand of men even slightly, even slightly even with maybe a fraction of a word manipulates this text of Allah Subhan

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I know what Donna, you ended up with these problems. Why? Because when Allah subhanaw taala says Revelation is very accurate, it's very precise. Each word is exactly where it needs to be, so that it could be understood properly. So when you take it and you decide that you can understand it, you're going to interpret it yourself many ways. Look at the Old Testament in Hebrew. And you take the 90 the the Bible that was technically also in Hebrew, when it was when it was revealed. And then basically, the the translation that was used was a Greek and then it turned to English, you can only imagine, aside from manipulation with going from one language to the other in terms of translation,

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the number of meanings are being lost, if you just take one of the Messiah upon the shelf that are translated, yeah, and you can show me time and time again, the failure of translation to actually explain the meaning that the Quran is actually trying to talk about. So aside from manipulation, translation itself is already a problem. But the concept I'm trying to explain to you that it I think there's beauty and is that Allah subhanaw taala, in his revelations is very, very accurate and what the wording that he uses, so I'm so so we believe that the Old Testament in the Bible did not say that it covered the whole earth, it was very similar to what the Quran is saying, however, that

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the Man of the hand of man when he came in and decided to interpret or he came, decided to write it on his own or do his own thing. They'll make mistakes and change our interpret the way they want to interpret it, not knowing that this will lead later on many, many, many millennials later to problems because we're going to figure out something different than you shouldn't have changed, you shouldn't have changed the letter within what you were looking at. And I think that's a really good is a really good example for me, but the importance of preciseness and accuracy in what Allah subhanaw taala says, we don't have a problem with the flood of no happening only one area actually,

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that's the evidence that we have within the Quran, in

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the Quran ik narrative is that it happened to the people of North in whatever area he was living, there's no evidence that it covered the whole planet to begin with. And that's a simple issue, because floods happen all the time all over the world. And it can happen in ways that are as as the prime describes mountains of waves, and that's very, very much normal. It's very acceptable, it's a normal normal thing. Another example,

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when he says to patch millinery, Adam, for example, with these Hadith that refer to Hawa being created from the from the rib of Adam Alehissalaam now scientifically, we have absolutely no evidence that the that a woman is created any differently than a man or that her DNA is coming specifically from rib cages and nothing else. There's absolutely no evidence for that whatsoever.

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He says the POUND DOLLAR also in the Holy Spirit inside woman agile, agile is hastiness.

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So are we created from hastiness?

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Or is that metaphorical?

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If that's metaphorical, then maybe this one is metaphorical as well. So what is the metaphor that exists within the ribcage for a man, but what's inside the ribcage for a man in his heart. So when Allah subhanaw taala, is when the Prophet of Islam is displaying this to us that the lady was created from his rib.

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Metaphorically, it means that she's a part of him, he's very close to him, there's no difference. By the way, it means she doesn't come from a different origin, which was a big deal. Because up till I think the 14th or 15th century, women across the planet were there were debates amongst theologians, and what women are actually made of, and whether they had souls or not, and whether they were, this is actually stuff that occurred not too long ago. Islamically not only is a woman equal to a man, but she's created from the same substance as a man is. The second thing is that ribs, what ribs do ribs, they, they protect the heart, they protect the emotion, the source of emotion, and passionate,

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which is a man's heart. So that metaphor or the bigger of speech, here, he's explaining the relationship that's going to exist between between men and between woman, rather than talking about this, again, rather than talking about the scientific origin. As you know, we're going to cut out a piece of rib and then we're going to grow anyhow out of it. And that's what humans are going to be. Women are going to be created from progressive time you understand it metaphorically, the way it should, or else what do you call in settlement agent is very difficult to understand. Because I can't understand what is the substance of Agile?

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Everyone is like students when they were kids, human received diverse political and settlement Agile

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is like your age, it is a calf as a Calicos is a it's a young cow. Human music created from a cow. No, it's aged, because it seems like edges, because it's more of a substance at least it's just made of something. So imagine, well, how are you created from hastiness? No, it's metaphorical. We are always in a hurry, you have very little patience. There'll be very little perseverance inside of us. That's how we're created. It's metaphorical. And that's the point that I think is worthy of thinking about

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the, I don't know the the Mount Everest of problems in this realm is the concept of adventure, Papa Kumar,

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of the splitting of the moon. This is the biggest issue that exists out there. Whenever I have a conversation with a Muslim and ask them I tried to explain that Allah subhanaw taala didn't give the profit audience or Jesus didn't give him miracles. The miracle that he gave him is that book do you have on the shelf? The first thing that comes out of their mouths almost Jonnie unanimously and this is been happening is what about the

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swelling of the moon. And then you have to go back and you have to say okay, well, the photographer does, too when shock palpable.

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The majority of movers city, including the hustle and bustle of the salon, Toby and others, look at this verse as one of the signs of your multicam. Meaning it's seen as something that's going to happen prior to multi AMA, like many other verses in the Quran, point out either shrimps to cool, we like to eat a new moon era to eat algae values. So you're not all things that will happen right before Yama, PM. And in the ashram Sukkot will not for example, just so it makes it very clear. This isn't the past tense, the Shem suku era is in the past tense. If you're going to look at a past tense in the currency, what must have happened, then oh my gosh, are you going to be in trouble?

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Because most of us talked about about human PA, most of the events of human pm are talked about in the past tense. This is just the way the Arabic the Arabic language works. Allah SubhanAllah. And that's how Allah Subhanallah speaks about things he speaks about things that haven't happened yet in the past tense, because there is no doubt that they're going to happen and to Allah subhanaw taala, past, present and future don't make a difference. So just because they haven't happened yet to you doesn't mean that they're 100% not going to happen, they're going to happen so he can speak to about them in the past, it's not a problem. And it's just a way of speech as well meaning from a

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literature perspective, this is how this is how those who understand literature actually write things and talk about things you can easily talk about a future event in the past tense as long as the context is understood. So either shampoo we launched with a new job and these are all in the past tense and almost every other 60% of verses about your opium exist in the in the window for the soul. It's the Quran is filled with this with this was a paladin acabado on the past tense even though we have yet to experience it, because that's how the Arabic language actually works. And there's beauty in it. So if I thought about this, when Chapelle Palmer it's actually pretty self

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explanatory, saying the Day of Judgment is coming near

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the moon, the moon SMent

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actually, actually pointing out the fact that it's right before your meal piano in the verse like it's not even itself it's you don't even need them invested to tell you that this is before your meal piano the verse is saying this is right before your milk piano. So then what do you do with the Hadith that has already been given Miss Owens? Bisaya. What do you do with that one? Well,

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I'm going to talk about our approach to Hadith either in a moment, I'm going to give it a nice 20 minutes inshallah explanation so you understand what to do. But here's the issue with this hadith.

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It's largely marriage, for example, how many Sahabi actually narrated this occurrence, the Prophet alayhi salatu salam went into a salon and came and went to Mirage, and he, how many of those Sahaba narrated this over 20 over 20 Sahaba narrated this, this event in different moments, the the example of jabber on the day of an conduct when he had very little food, and the baraka was, and he was bestowed upon it by Allah subhanaw taala. And everybody, everyone ate over 15 Sahaba narrated that this is what they witnessed that day. How many Sahaba actually witnessed the splitting of the moon? And take a guess.

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Even Massoud, that's it, no one saw it. No one Sahabi not one. So he spoke of this a cipher and Miss Oh, I'm not saying it didn't happen. I believe that it did. I just don't believe it did in the way that we are claiming that it did that. So meaning it was something different than what we think it actually is. That's all I'm trying to say here. Like, I'm not saying that. First of all, it's an integration. Meaning if we say we're going to do we're going to this narration has something in it, it doesn't mean that we're accusing the person of lying, nor anyone who's narrating from it. And I'll approach that in a moment and talk about it. And that needs to be looked at in a second. But

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this is where the issue comes into Kafka. That this is something that is narrated by just with this, if this is gonna be a miracle, if it's a miracle, will it be witnessed by only one? Sahabi? Yeah, no, obviously not. I'm just trying to say that this is definitely not a miracle in the way that we're looking at it. Because if it were, then the Sahaba, all of them would have witnessed it, and they would have used it time and time again. And they would have reminded what I used with it time and time again. It was a one time thing. Even Massoud spoke about it how many times oh, so once, that was one sahabi, who talked spoke about it one time. And then this idea was attached to this

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hadith attached to an eye on the Quran, that we don't have evidence that there's actually any affiliation or association between the eye and between the Hadith. I don't understand the problem with this. So there's a there's a very, I've talked about this before in the seals with Cambodia named a couple of months ago. But I think this is a good place to kind of make sure that that's clear to everybody. Another thing that comes up is, is the claim that there are mistakes in the human creation into human being, meaning there are things that are not perfect. The appendix for example, there are pieces that don't work or well this comes based this problem, I think without

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them and this is why I started out this series by explaining to you some of the methodologies of thought and some of the fallacies that can be problematic. Amongst the methodology of thought is the rich I talked about a couple of times today is the Nirvana approach, which is the which is the ideal catalog way of thought meaning you set the expectations of what you think should be and if whatever you're looking at does not meet your expert

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quotations that it must be wrong. So when you're looking at the human being, you're defining what perfection is. Meaning when you're saying why does it why is the appendix there? Why are there certain things you want? Why are we designed in certain ways that don't allow us for don't allow you for what? Or in a way that it's not optimal? For what? Who is putting the who is deciding the optimal creation? For which purpose mean, based on what are you saying that this is not perfect, or there's something extra, you have to have a standard. So when you draw your own standard, and something doesn't live up to it, you can't take that as a point of argument towards the one who made

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it. Unless you ask the one who made it. What exactly do you make it for me? Is this by design or just a mistake? Allah subhanaw taala never said that he created the human being in a perfect physical form. Obviously, this is not a perfect physical form. It's a beautiful physical form. It serves the purpose of what he's going to do, but it's not perfect. Perfection would I would perfection to me, I want to fly. I've always wanted to fly. I want wings that will come through, I want to be one of those excellent, that can just shoot wings out of there. I want to fly. That would be perfection for me. I want to be able to breathe underwater. I don't. This is what I am drawing

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right now. My expectations of what perfection is I'm not allowed to do that. I can't do that projected upon God and say, Well, where were my gills? I want to be able to I don't have gills then there must be a mistake here. Now mostly this this, this argument comes from from evolution by saying because evolution says there are remnants of tail bones, there are remnants of aspects of us. And if you listen to the last two or three, two sessions, there's no problem with that. That's actually not an issue. Yes, we're a part of life. There are remnants of old life inside of us. So what explain to me how that denies God. Explain to me how that denies Allah subhanaw taala trading

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us I'll tell you where the problem comes in. So you understand very clearly is one verse in the Quran, he says we actually talk to him, and we want to take that as in physical appearance. It has nothing to do with physical appearance has nothing to do with physicality at all, at all. cwieme comes from again, the root of pm and pm has to do with functionality with activism. That's what pm means. So if you ask them to tween me there have created in the best way for them to serve their purpose for them to do their job to fulfill their goals. That's what absent duckweed means. What about children who are born with Diffic deficits or defects. The Prophet Allah Himself does not know

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about this, this law but not see it of course, there were more defects in born children back then than there are today by far meaning people were born with it with mental delay mental retardation or with with with with with deafness or blindness, or worse, severe lack of ability to move or to. So they saw this all the time. So if this idea meant physical form, then the you didn't need this show. We didn't need to wait for 1400 years for us to find the appendix and say, well, that's the reason that there's no What are you doing?

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Has nothing to do with physical appearance or else this idea would have been debunked the moment a child was born with some defect, defect, but they didn't understand the idea that way to begin with the I was talking about functionality I was talking about purposefulness was yes, we are created perfectly to fulfill our purpose. We have intellect and we have the ability to reason we have the ability to organize, we have all the abilities that are needed for us to do our job are there. The fact that in our body, there are remnants of a long process of creation is actually nothing problematic within our deen. It's nothing that will deny the perfect Allah subhanaw taala is

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Hi there. Hello, Paula Heba, Rooney mother, Holika, Lady lemon Dooney, Allah, the US and Aquila, che in Calaca. This doesn't take away from that at all. Having remnants of of a long past, and it doesn't take away. That's one thing. Another thing is, when we say that this doesn't work, or it works, we're holding it to a standard that we just made up. And that's not fair. So when you say, Well, I can't see because our eyes you

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can see to a certain

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distance after certain distance you can't see anymore. Is that a lack of perfection? Is it I want to see farther? Yeah, you want. So you want and what is are two different things. And he never said that he was going to create eyes that you can see everything everywhere with he just said that's not he never said that. So if you can't hold him to something he never claimed he was going to make in the first place. But he created with eyesight and that's what you got to be thankful for it. You don't hold it to a standard that that is an illusion that you just made up and then and then go after it. Another part is sometimes you don't know the benefit of certain things.

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Just because right now I don't see a benefit of it doesn't mean that there is no benefit of it just means I haven't figured it out yet.

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Again, if if science is open is is very big on continuously looking for causes and why isn't when it comes to certain things that they don't find a benefit in within a couple of years. They decide that it's useless and there's a reason that it's a very it's a it's a double standard. That's again, it's a fallacy of a double standard that's being used. We believe that everything is purposeful within the human body. Life is purposeful. Life is doesn't just float around life wants to survive life.

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wants to reproduce. So it's purposeful in its essence. So anything about it should be purposeful too. So if you can't find the purpose purpose doesn't mean that's not there. It just means you haven't figured it out yet. And there's just ways to kind of argue a very simple concept that I think is important. I think that's all I wanted to talk about regarding that issue. If I do have one more I do one that's over 25 today. So we can easily take forever to finish this but I think I'll end with that and show. So let's talk now about the

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let's talk about the idea of enemy scientific miracles in the Quran. This has been this has been such Yeah, it is so been so been so messy over the last couple of decades has caused so many problems, people instead of basing their Iman on the points that I have shared with you since the beginning of this, this series of the sources that are actually appropriate for Eman universe and life and history. And then at the end, Inshallah, we'll talk about the human experience. These are the sources of Eman, this uniformity of evidence everything is pointing towards Allah subhanaw taala. So there's almost there's no margin for error almost at all.

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But when you base your Eman on a what is called a scientific miracle, and it turns out to be wrong. This is one of the leading reasons one of the leading reasons are you and you and I've actually witnessed this week leading reason for people to leave the deen altogether. They build their email on a specific intent it turns out not to be right and then they let me give you a few few examples. Here's a simple example start your slow so like Lehman knuckle and so in Surah number the nameless speaking to it says was a man and he come yesterday man Nakamura is today man who was you know, do that Serena does not shatter you

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know, this, I remember it was in the 90s. And there's this huge movement of Yes, ants are made of substance similar to glass, they don't break They shatter. And then all the medical means to shatter Oh, and then we find out that that there is no correlation between ants and glass at all at all and ants break just like everything else.

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Ants break just like everything else. And then people like oh,

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if you build your email on this would be a problem. But why did this even become an issue to begin with?

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Why is this What Why did like Lehman in the company why did why didn't taking understanding this word in that sense. And then trying to find it was a lie, someone made up a lie. I don't know if it's Muslim, Muslim or not. I don't know who made up this line. Someone made up a line and decided that this is what this word means and that there's scientific evidence to support it. They thought that this would go it was gone. A lot of people do this Islamically by the way, in the in the past Hadith are made up of youth were made up for years. It wasn't for the fact that Allah Matt came in and started to filter out all of the all of the made up stuff he would have ended up with ended up

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with, with endless volumes of things that have nothing to do with Islam, and they thought that if they lied, but the lie was well intended that would help people no never, never IS A LIE going to help you ever. I don't care what you think at the moment a lie will never help you falsehood will never serve you ever in no circumstance will lying ever serve you are you listening to what I'm saying? Never there is not there's not there is nothing aside from you telling your wife that she's the most beautiful person on the planet there's never a line that's helpful All right, that's the only line that's acceptable or if you're in war and someone is going to you know hit you with a

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couple of 100 volts of electricity tell them something to leave you alone aside from that there is no lines that are acceptable period. So when we make up stuff it becomes very problematic. Let me give you the another example here that can be a little bit so he says subhanaw taala in Allah Allah ye ye and your believer method Amma but all button from our folk Aha, Allah subhanaw taala is not ashamed or not embarrassed Alicia Allah of giving you an example of a mosquito or anything above it. That's that's the literal translation from our folk Baja.

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Again, in the early 2000s, they went and they discovered and they said oh, we discovered a mite this moment that lives on top of the head of the beholder and Oh, using and then we found out later that this might doesn't always live on the heads of mosquitoes. And it lives on the hands of 100 others 90 different insects and it's a part of what's really not specifically not and then people regressed again. Oh, my folklore has nothing to do with on the top of the head of the mosquito from a folklore isn't he saying I do not I have no problem give you an example with something as small as a mosquito or smaller for my throat camis eyes is smaller than its focal has to sit as in smaller than it not

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on top of its head linguistically. It doesn't work for it to be on its head. Like you cannot you don't this is the interesting piece. You don't have the linguistic ability from from an Arabic language perspective and speaking, you cannot understand from our folk eyes on his head. You can't. It's impossible. Whoever came up with this one was Agim. Yeah, 100% he's not not all of it. It's impossible because you cannot understand it as on top of its head. It's not possible. But because people are so thirsty for anything, they accepted it to be accepted. And this is why I think this is important. You shouldn't be this desperate for evidence of ALLAH SubhanA wa

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dialer and the divineness of the book of Allah subhanaw taala. You shouldn't you have an abundance of evidence, actually you have uniformity of evidence, the fact that you're looking over here just means you have not done your job. And you haven't looked in the right places. You have not derived your Eman from the right sources. So you're looking for anything. Let me give you again, the again the Mount Everest of problems with with agile enemy.

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It comes from the same example I just gave you a second ago, splitting the moon and the 90s. And the 1000s. This was what was said was said that NASA went to the moon. And they found in the moon, a crater that splits it right in half. So

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there is no greater in the middle of the moon. There is no splitting, there's no evidence of the moon ever being split historically, ever. There's just there's nothing is zero. This is not even this was completely made up. Whoever said this made it up out of thin air. There's nothing at all. There's not one, I spent two months looking into this trying to figure out I just want to see this somewhere. Someone say something about some

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cosmic event that occurred to the moon that could be understood that maybe at some point is split, and there's evidence of a splitting, nothing, nothing at all. So those who, so when you called and she clocked out and added a miracle, right? And then you say and there's evidence for it. Now you're like sitting, you're on cloud nine, you're floating. And then we'll tell you there's nothing like that you can spot on your face. Because you build your your mind on something very, very weak. And not even the right source. This is not the source of human I'm sorry, this is not the source of the mind, the source of your mind you start universe life. History, your personal experience, when you

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looked into uniformity of these arrows as they point towards Allah subhanaw taala. And that never changes. You. Why would you build your email on something that that has no build out your email is something that is solid. It's always been there that dates that predates you, predates me, you'll never the universe will never stop being the way it is. Life will never stop being the way it is. History won't change anytime soon. History is history.

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But there's another part and this is my personal Yanina pet peeve that I have to share with you. So not only did I get something called digested either the there is the numerical miracles of the Quran. And isn't this just a lot of pot of fun isn't it isn't just people who go after numbers. And and it's calculations that are beyond the ability of Valais, the an Oxford mathematicians understand whatever this person is doing, and they're doing in their timing seven by this number, and it's ending into this number and this is what is correct it is connected to this one based on this calculation. And it goes on and on and on and on and on number taking you away from the essence and

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substance or but Allah subhanaw taala is saying this book, what are you doing? The Quran was not sent as a as a reason. As a scientific book. It was not a book of biology, not a book of geology. It's not a book of medicine. It's not a book of astronomy. It's not a book of math. Why are we trying to make it all this? Quran is a book of sociology, psychology and law. That's what the Quran is. That is its purpose. That's why it was sent it was sent to serve these three things. Outside of that we're just playing around you will find evidence meaning you will find Allah subhanaw taala pointing to something as you learn about science. Oh, somebody said that already sent an email Yeah,

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Tina. Firstly your feet unfussy him had data but you know let him and note how you will see his sign supine or down on the horizon sign yourself no problem you'll you're gonna see it as time progresses, you'll see it but to use the Quran as that as a as a source of, of science and then build theories, those scientific theories based on the Quran, which is even though that's that's a stretch that I'm not even gonna get going to get into, it's not even worth it to start building scientific theories based on what the Quran is saying, is a miss usage of the word of Allah subhana wa Tada. I see it as a lack of a dog with Allah, I really do. I see it as a lot of other Allah

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subhanaw taala sent this book, and it was a very clear purpose of why he sent it and what it was going to do. Why are we trying to use it for something else? I'll tell you why. Because a man became weak. Because we became vulnerable from a spiritual perspective. We stopped, we lost our connection with Allah subhanaw taala became desperate, we wanted anything. We wanted anything that the West would be impressed by. You wanted something that Forgive me, not even

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the atheists living in Europe and America will listen to and be like, Oh, isn't that cool? If they don't think it's cool, then it's not cool. Because we were so beaten, as an ummah, we were so beaten, we had lost so much of our integrity, so much of our intellectual integrity, that we just wanted someone to verify to validate our belief system. So we needed these things. Because when you say something like that to someone who's a disbeliever, they'll be impressed by it for a short period of time until they find out that NASA didn't see anything on the moon and then they're not going to be impressed at all anymore.

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Of course, but there's one more example I just gave you three or four. There's like a another 50 examples that are problematic. It doesn't mean that the Quran doesn't have

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signs or references of scientific facts. Of course it does. I'm not saying that it doesn't, but

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The way we used it was definitely not not correct. And a bit was based on this weak approach we had. You were scared, we were vulnerable, you're vulnerable. So we needed someone to validate us. You don't need anyone to validate your belief, you have the strongest belief system in the world. You have uniformity of evidence for your belief. It's actually any variation of our description of Allah subhanaw. Taala requires, like, is impossible to prove. You say there's too, you say that there's more than you're an associate, you will say that there's similarity to human being you say you say anything, anything at all, and it becomes impossible impossible to describe God to a scientific mind

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and accept it. The description a slime and description of who Allah subhanaw taala is is the only one that actually works? Well, you have no reason to feel this week, but unfortunately, a lot of us do. So this numerical claim, and the numerical piece is very Bob, like, I know, I've heard of people saying people actually say they're not insane, who predicts the Yanni but when when certain countries are going to end and when your normal Pm is going to happen, predicting it just based on a few verses and doing a calculation.

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I don't understand that. I don't see how that's I don't see that how that how that's respectful to the book of Allah subhanaw taala? I just don't I feel that's very Yes, maybe there are patterns in the Quran? I'm not denying that. But why are you doing? What is causing you to look into this? And what and based on what evidence are you actually coming up with these descriptions and these numbers, allow them there's nothing, there's nothing to to support it. Alright, so that's what I have in terms of some of the Schuble hurt that people bring towards the Quran. There's a lot more, I just took the ones that I think are really known and important and significant and cause issues.

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There are other ones that are much less important if you do have one at the end. Again, if you think of something you're welcome to either put it can you put put the thing down, put it in the survey and I'll take a look at the survey before the last session and I'll answer some questions or you're welcome to ask at the end of any session. I'm happy to address that for you. But I'm trying to just choose the most common fallacies and the most common accusations or issues that people deal with. Let's talk about the Hadith aside for a moment. I'm going to run a series as I said like as a sequel to this where I talk about the divine design regarding the Quran and Sunnah mean the way the deen is

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is how Allah subhanaw taala wants it to be there are no flaws, there are no mistakes. There's because we have a hadith that are weak and strong and somewhere in the middle. That's not a flaw. That's not a failure on behalf of the ummah. This is actually how Allah subhanaw taala designed Islam to be the height of these different classes of evidence. This is what Allah subhanaw taala wanted the clay case to be to begin with. So an explaining that will take a little bit of time and I'll do that in Charlotte Ptolemy and in sessions after Ramadan is insha Allah but right now let me just give you a basic understanding of how to you don't have to defend every single this is just

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take this pearl from me and walk with it and you live an easier life. You don't have to defend every single Hadith sahih when it comes to a scientific issue that may contradict it, you don't have to defend it. You have to defend the Quran the Quran is very clear. The Quran is the Quran has full authenticity in terms of his narration, meaning the Quran was given to us 1000 People narrated by gave it to 1000 people who gave it to more than 1000 people the Quran was given to us in a way, there's something called telephoto it may you hate it, you might hate it.

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It's impossible for these numbers to have made it up. It's impossible for these numbers to lie about it because you have all these people with uniformity of narration, uniformity of narration, the underrating the exact same wording, exact same book. So that's why for us, oran is Class A evidence someone who goes to law understands what I'm talking about Class A evidence, this is very clear, because the evidence is when it's chronic, and it's partly a dealer, meaning it's also very clear in what he's trying to explain. Plus be evidence is when it's Quranic and is learned dealer, meaning the wording itself, like fit out at the group, for example, we don't know exactly what he means by

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that, does he mean periods of purity or periods of of menstrual menstrual? I don't know. So it's Class B, it's full authenticity, but there's lack of clarity class See, evidence is when the hadith is much larger, and it's called a de la paz de evidences when it's you keep on going. So we're talking about the Hadith sighs that's a herd, which is the majority majority of the Hadith that are made to us by one, maybe two, up to three Sahaba. And then somewhere in the chain of narration, we just have one person, and the chain is only as strong as its weakest link. So sometimes what happens is at some point in the chain, you're just one person who will read this hadith to us.

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We have today, you have two groups, we have a group that will get rid of this whole thing and say the Prophet alayhi salam never said anything in the entirety of his life and they and they completely throw away a hadith who is the Messiah? That's that's social suicide to do something like that. Then you have the other group that equalize all of these classes of evidence. They say they're all the same. They're all equal, which is also another form of legal suicide. If the courts of law did that, most people would be in jail. If the courts of law did that it'd be very difficult to settle a lawsuit, it'd be much easier to convict people of anything, if all classes of evidence were

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equal. And even 100 is a piece of evidence that is undeniable. It's a piece of evidence. It is not a

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according to the Quran,

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is not equal to the Quran because it lacks authenticity, it doesn't have the same chain of narration strength that the Quran has. That means that we have to deal with it as such. So if you're reading a hadith, and I'll give you I'm gonna give you like at the end of this of this course, and the last day, I'm gonna give you a number of examples about a hadith that are problematic that people struggle with, that they can't understand. They don't know exactly what to do about this hadith, so they kind of take a step back, and they're not sure how to how to approach it and what to say about it. And I'll explain to you how to approach that inshallah to Allah in a healthy way. But there's

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something called nukkad centered, meaning you have to go after make sure that the chain of narration is authentic. But there's also something called Knoxville mutton mean, you have to take a look at the authenticity of the actual meat of the Hadith, the wording of the Hadith. Scholars of Hadith historically have done both, being when they look when they judge the Hadith to be acceptable or usable, they need to make sure the sun is is correct. But they also need to make sure that the meeting is correct. And this is a part that people sometimes don't understand. And those who learn Islam from specific backgrounds, they don't seem to accept even though this is very well known. This

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is something that all of the scholars of Islam historically have done. They've actually come up with criteria, I mean, based on what are we going to accept the Hadith based on his smitten, or do something called and hear this talk puff? Puff is a very important tool when you come to it. So if that doesn't seem to fit, the prophet Allah, you start to Sam's normal behaviors, or something that goes against what his Quran is very clearly saying, or it actually goes against what is known to be common sense or scientific facts that we're very comfortable with, we do something called our proof document saying, I don't know what was meant by this hadith. I don't know how to interpret this

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hadith in a healthy manner. So I stop, I leave it, you don't refuse it.

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I don't believe in that approach, I don't think we should do something called Read the Hadith or of the Hadith, I don't think that's actually appropriate. If it has a proper chain of narration, then if we don't, if we can't make sense of the mutton cabbie made sense of, and we stop, we wait at some point in sha Allah in the future, someone will be able to interpret this appropriately in a healthy way. But we don't have we're not held to it. You can't come and argue against Islam through the Hadith new cat. Because we know that this hadith has a margin of error. There's a margin of error when it comes to generating a hadith. Let's take for example. So here in Makati, which,

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interestingly enough, is one of the leading reasons that when Muslims leave Islam, one of the leading reasons actually, they use the word slightly cloudy, interestingly enough, which is kind of crazy. But that's when I'm just I'm just telling you what the surveys actually show. And some of the surveys are done by Aspen Institute, we actually have a representative today showing amongst us who will talk about about their work. And they're very, very helpful in any organization, for sure. And hopefully, it's all they can grow into can offer us even more data and allow us to kind of grow in terms of figuring out what people need.

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And the reason that's a study is because those who have the everything or nothing approach that mentality, it all the Hadith have to be perfectly aligned with their understanding of the world. And if it's not, then that one mistake is enough for them to kind of okay, lose them for a walk away. Let's see, let's see, one because he is a human being. He's human. So his effort and putting this book together is the effort of a human being, what is an acceptable margin of error for a human being, I want to take the margin of error that the company of Toyota came up with in the 90s, when they perfect when they were known for their efficiency is 3% 3% is amazing. If you make if you're

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making if you're putting out something and your margin of error is 3% or less than then obviously you are you're way beyond what is acceptable, or even MATT Yeah, imaginable for a human being, I want to take even less than 3% I want to say 2% If you say 2% of flexibility will have some margin, there's no margin of error, I mean, 2% of the quality there'll be something won't be fully authentic. You're you're around 50 Hadith.

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How many Hadith actually read Bukhari are gonna cause problems less than 20. And the number of Hadith that you stand in front of like, I don't know what to do with this. I don't understand it, I cannot deal with it. It's fine. To to have say, I don't understand it, stop, leave it. You don't have to defend it. So when people come after it's done through a hadith don't get all upset, right? We don't know what that means. It's a narration. There's a margin of error here. And maybe there's context that's missing. Maybe the hobby hurts thought he's heard something but he heard something else. Maybe he thought he saw something, but he saw something else. Maybe one of the rages that came

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later misinterpreted what was being said, wrote it in a way that it could be written or interpreted and more or

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verbalized in different ways, and it was verbalizing the wrong way, not the right way. There's a lot of different possibilities of where a mistake could have occurred. That's normal. This is the effort of a human being it's fine which is what makes it different sets it aside from the was just an aside, what is different, the quality is different. That's why we'll go through each and any Shabbat different, let's go through it in detail and talk about it until it's clear idea we don't actually have to, that's fine. We can do it too often something is like lacks clarity. And that's an important approach that you must have to have that doesn't mean don't respect it as a source of

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evidence. No, no, no. Of course we do. Anyway to this masjid and how many Hadith have been narrated here?

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Over the last 100 and something

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100 Hadith narrated here over the 300, after Isha, aside from the brothers who did their narrations, Yanni, after Mohammed throughout the summer, and, of course, you need the Hadith of the Prophet as the highest, you understand how he practiced all of this and his role modeling for us. But we understand as a source of evidence, there is a margin of error, there's a margin just fine. It's not a problem, because it's the effort of a human being. Okay. That's what I have to kind of share with you regarding that topic. And the issue of evil, which we're not going to get through what's already six priority for evil suffering and destiny, which is what I'm going to try and get through in sha

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Allah over there, I did a full series of this during lmm hoppas, only a year ago. So actually, we go back to 11. Public, you'll find me, I get through the through the lens of sort of Tunis, so I kind of talked about a number of different aspects. But let's just take a step back and understand something, it is the fourth is the fourth reason of Muslims or people leaving faith in the West.

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We don't have statistics back home, but I believe now, and this is not just my own, this is like a number of scholars and do it in the in the Middle East, they see it to be number one is the number one reason that people have lost faith in the Middle East. And this is not and this is prior this is not this is after 2015. Basically, not prior, in the early 2000s. It wasn't the leading cause. And then after 2011, it became the leading cause, reason being is after the Arab Spring, and what actually happened to people, it just became a big problem. When the amount of evil that was unleashed by some of the regimes and tyrants upon human beings, it became very difficult to rectify

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and actually bring it all together and accepted as a whole is very difficult. But this is an important point that I think is we should we should think about what are the what are what is it? What is the problem with, with believing in or the issue of shuttling in general? Well, I

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think the basic problem of the issue of evil comes from the same, the ideal catalog or the Nirvana fallacy. It comes from the same idea. If your expectation, your expectation of life and of creation, is that there shouldn't be any evil. And there is then you have a problem. And then you have a problem. There's something called the

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What is his name? I wrote his name down because I could never remember these people's names.

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Yeah, so it's called the the evil continuing of Matthew J. Mackey is what? He's an author, and he talks about an evil continue meaning he says, God created everything. That's number one, God knows everything is number two. Number three, God is omnipotent. And all in all, good. Number three, number four, if God knows all and is all good, then evil wouldn't exist in the world. Evil exists in the world. That means there either is a God that is flawed or a God that doesn't exist altogether. He alleged that Aloha should Allah subhanaw taala disappear. But this is the continuum that he uses to get basically, this is how they get rid of the belief, that belief in God. And this comes from

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the problem that I'm telling you about? Who said,

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Who defines what good is? And based on what are you saying that having evil is defying that God is all good? Like, this is a big problem. This on his own self is a huge expectation issue. You're coming into this world, and you're bringing within, on your own, you're bringing your own expectation of what is right, and what is wrong, what is good, and what is evil and what God should do, you're basically projecting your own values on Allah subhanaw taala, himself, which is not Yanni, which is obviously not an acceptable concept. Another reason for this problem is the fact that back in the day, people suffered all over the planet. But it was very localized, meaning the

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people who saw the suffering were the people who were there. Today, there's apparently not enough money to feed people and to close them. But there's enough money for us to see their hunger and they're freezing all the time. Like in real time live, there's enough money for us some I don't know how this works. But apparently, there's enough money for us to live stream, people freezing and starving and dying, but not enough to actually give them a piece of bread and make sure that they flow the clothing on them. So it's very difficult for us as human beings today, to sit here and just go through a stream where it's just one person starving after the other, staring at it with their

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own eyeballs. It's very hard. It's not something it's not fun. And it's difficult. Like if you're stuck with the surface, the suffering happening around you, you can deal with that mentally. But when you're seeing the suffering of people all over the planet in real time, all the time, it becomes a little bit overwhelming. So that's one of the reasons that this becomes such such a problem. Another one is the description of God and Christianity. This problem of evil, let me just give you a little bit of a historical background

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was not a problem for Muslims ever, or Jews.

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We never struggled with the issue of evil in the world ever. We never even talked about it. Philosophically. Muslims talked about every aspect, every aspect of Islam of

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the existence of God and maybe the

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different challenges to that thought, a little column, they're called him with the colony and the people who will focus on theology. He talks about everything. They didn't really talk about the existence of evil. It's really interesting, this piece is missing, or it doesn't have a lot of literature on it. Islamically and in from Judaism, Judaism perspective, but it was talked about really early on in the Chronicles of Christianity. Reason being is a description of God for the Christians is that he is

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merciful towards all at all times. And he is loving to all at all times. This is his description in their book for us, Allah subhanaw taala is a Rahmani r Rahim. Yes, and he is a dude. But Allahu La una buena el ferocity?

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Well, I have Hebrew bonamy While you're able caffeine, if you go to the Quran, you find that He does not love this group of people and does not love that group of people. He does not love and you have in the Quran. One of them you will call me Toby. Shadi delay Cobb Chedid repub he is, he also offers severe punishment as well. subhanho wa taala. So the way that Allah subhanaw taala is explained in Islam is balanced. Yes, he's very loving, he treated you not to not to punish you. He created you and He loves His creation. And he wants to show His creation, mercy and compassion. However, there is punishment as well. So the concept of suffering is not an understandable for Muslims. It's

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actually very well documented, we have no problem with it. But then when you give a version of God I get the strawman fallacy comes in, going because the Christians say that this is what God is, then those who are then talking about the problem of evil will go after the Christian God. And then somehow we're clumped up with that. And now we're getting we're getting the same backlash for something that we actually don't believe in, and never had a problem with to begin with. Understanding where this comes from. For us as Muslims, it's never been the case. Of course, evil is a part of the world. It's always husband, Allah subhanaw taala explains that it all comes from Allah

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subhanaw taala, we just out of Adam, we never say that Allah subhanaw taala, God brought this Shut up. This is this is a lack of manner. When we speak to Allah, He created the earth. And within it there is ease and that there is difficulty and there is good, and there is evil. And that's what he created. subhanho wa taala. So then the question becomes, well, let's move on to the next Yan email. Well, why? Why did he create evil?

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What Why, why? Why couldn't he just not create evil? Why he just do that?

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How arrogant. That question is. And it's a complex question fallacy in its own, right. When you say, Well, why didn't you create the universe without evil, you are assuming that somehow you understand what goes into creating something. It's assuming that you have the full elements and all of the angles and the different matrix that are required to understand what it goes into creating the universe you have under you under No, no, I know exactly how life came about and how to actually make sure life exists. So I can totally see the possibility of him creating life, a meaningful life without pain in it at all. That is extremely arrogant. And it's untrue. Because we don't understand

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at all we barely understand the surface of how life works and how the universe functions to act like we're saying, Well, why don't you just do this is questioning him Subhana wa Tada on something we have almost no knowledge of, that's number one. Number two.

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The human being does not have the ability to appreciate something unless its opposite exists.

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We don't have the ability, someone who was born blind, has no problem with their blindness at all.

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At all, because they don't know the opposite. It's not there if they've never experienced it, so it doesn't bother them. Someone who's born deaf is not but you know, Helen Keller know the story. You know, it was or the Helen Keller yellow teeth. You know, that's weird. Now, Helen Keller is a Canadian lady who was born both deaf and blind. He died with a couple of PhDs. And she would she would give us an order she was standing she would she would give it he was blind and deaf from the moment she was born. He never saw it. She never heard all of her life. And when you hear her story, it hurts. But they remember something she never ever knew the opposite. Like she never witnessed the

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other thing. Like the fact that you and I see and hear if it's taken away it hurts that's much more difficult. By the way, it's much more difficult. If people go into severe depression for a long time for that before they actually forget what it was like to hear that you only get over it when you come to the point where you forget what it was like to hear and see. And now you're comfortable with your your current existence May Allah subhanaw taala protect all of you that's why the Prophet is saying well my dad now be a smart No, absolutely no Kuwa Tina updated I don't take them away. It's very difficult to deal with it when it's taken away. When it's never there. It doesn't bother you

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because it's not a problem. I'm not I would love to fly but doesn't bother me then he can't. I don't feel like something's missing. I don't feel like I can't do it. But you don't have gills. It doesn't bother me that I can do but it would be nice if I had it but it's no big deal because I don't know I never had it to do it. It's not something I lost. Right? It's not something I lost at all.

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The problem becomes

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if we cannot identify the blessing of something or the value of something without this opposite, then it's it's inevitable that the universe that we live in have pain, suffering and evil. For us, how else are we going to value goodness, love, mercy, compassion and ease. We can't. That's why your child if they grew up with a, they say the golden spoon or silver spoon in their mouth, you get very upset with them after a while, after all, you can't tolerate them anymore. And you start to thinking of sending them to military school or putting them on a plane and sending them somewhere to Africa to live with the missionaries for a bit because you can't get get handle them anymore. Because they

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might it's not their fault. They never saw the flip side of the coin. Like they never they never saw what it meant to be hungry or tired or scared or deprived. They only know this they can't value it is not valuable. Because you don't know what exists. On the other side. Lathe has pain and suffering because that's how it was designed to begin with. So that we value what is if you're gonna go and enjoy Allah subhanaw taala or this company if you don't know Rama, you have to value what it means to have that if it's just given to you then then you have to evaluate you have to go through life. Life is based on nature, nature is what drives it nature is brutal. Nature is savage.

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Nature is very very cruel. Nature is extremely cruel. We like watching the lions, you know, right and in the savanna, we like Lion King, holding up Yanni Simba and sell nice, a lion will come to a pride that is not his if he wins, he will kill every young cub there, he will kill them all.

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And then reproduce himself. They don't show you that piece. That piece is too brutal, but that's how that's how it works. The majority of carnivores, the majority of them when they eat when they hunt, they they end up eating baby herbivores. And they're the easiest one to catch. They're the easiest one to catch. They don't show you that on National Geographic but it's too brutal. There Okay, showing a big fat bowl getting pulled down because he's like, maybe a couple of years old, he's had his life he's, he's gonna take care of himself, no problem, let him be brought the bison be brought down by a couple of lines, no issue. But then the little Gazelle that was just born a second ago

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being you know, devoured by a couple of that we don't want it to. But that's how desperate nature is nature is very brutal, is very savvy is very cruel, very difficult is like that is why it was put in that agenda that we talked about is here. It's a place where you're safe, but you're not a part of the food chain anymore. You have to worry about anything. Anyone needs to know when he was given that he didn't even value it. You couldn't even follow one simple command just don't eat from this, couldn't do it. Go back again. Let let life mold you let life process you let you understand the difficulties that exist there will come back to be much more appreciated when you come back later

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on. So the existence of evil for us as Muslims is not. It's not it's not a problem against the existence of God. It's a necessity. Because of evil. We believe in God. Not despite it. You say we've not despite evil, we believe in God because of it. Because it's there because this is how it looks. I'm gonna design it to begin with. Okay, here's another question. That's all I understand that you like it? That's fine. But what about severe tyranny? Severe oppression. Why is he okay with that? And why did these

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natural phenomena occur? We're like, like, like, like the earthquake that occurred in disinterest takes out hundreds of 1000s of people. This is no different. First of all, you have a double whammy is not never okay, sometimes out repression. Never. He never said that was okay. But what the question is, is why doesn't he intervene, why he's intervene every time there's oppression. And that's not what Allah subhanaw taala ever promised. He never promised that every time someone would oppress someone else, he would intervene. Suppose I didn't stop it. That's not what he said he was going to do. But he did put in place ACULA and he put in place just put in blue, please do so stick

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to things that there will be hereafter and there will be accountability. So whatever occurs here, there is full justice to be served at a later point. That's number one. Number two, he made our purpose here as human beings. When you look at our body and

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our purpose here to actually lift and alleviate oppression and alleviate pain and alleviate tournament tyranny. This is our job. This is actually a part of our story to begin with means there is there for a reason, because we're here. And we're supposed to actually stop that from happening. But he never promised that he would come in and actually alleviate it. But yes, it's very difficult to understand. And I agree. But if you understand it as if Tila if you remember that everything that happens in life, she's not about you just remember that something's a test, you use the lens when something bad happens, this lens has to stay on your face. Everything that's happening is always

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just a trial. This is how we see the world as Muslims we see the world through the fact that everything that is happening is a trial everything what is happening to you right now I passed a trial, I succeeded another trial. I'm happy a trial I'm unhappy at trial and whatever is happening is just a test from Allah subhanaw taala. To see a younger I screw up for like the greater grateful or, well I persevere if it's difficult. One of the two things is there's really nothing nothing aside from these two it two approaches. So if we end

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But if we lose that lens, if we start taking this off and looking at life differently, then when something difficult happens, it takes a little bit of time for us to put the lens back on by then we've already lost our faith, most of us. But if the lens is there, meaning we only see life through the fact that it's trials, then when something difficult happens to us, we accept that this is Allah subhanaw taala, this test is difficult. And with difficult tests comes great reward. difficult tests will come great reward. That's That's how these are looked at. And then you say, Well, why does it happen? You see, this is where we have to, this is where some lines are drawn. Because when you're

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asking for why you're asking for a motive, you're asking for a motive from Allah subhanaw taala. You're projecting human mode motives upon Allah subhana wa, tada. You're projecting your own motives on God. And that's, as we explained a couple of days. That is the fallacy that's not accept you can't do it. You can't project your own reasonings, your desires, your whims, your motives upon God Himself, you can't. So sometimes we won't know. We don't know exactly why this one incident occurred. When you zoom out on the Day of Judgment, it won't be difficult to see the pattern, when you zoom out on the Day of Judgment won't be hard to see. Okay, that's why this all occurred. This

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is why this had to happen. Is it was painful, but it was not infinite. It was finite, it ended, Justice was served. And it was a part of a bigger picture. It was hard sometimes understanding when you when you zoom in to something why did that one thing happen? Why didn't that one thing?

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Which is why I'm so lucky for five years Hi, Bill field. Don't question God why he did or didn't do something didn't see what he did to the people of the field. With a couple of birds he killed an army. No problem. Don't waste your time wondering why he did or didn't do something. Just focus on your role, because it's not your question. It's not it's not an appropriate question for us to be asking to begin with. I'm gonna end with that at seven o'clock and I'm getting tired. There's this issue is not done yet. Like the concept of evil is not finished. I have a couple of big six or seven points to make. And I'll talk about destiny. So we'll do this inshallah tomorrow between like 200

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to Blake was that Allah who sent them over I can't remember how many murders zombies mean, I would say the best thing to do is that if you have questions based on today's session, specifically, use a survey user survey type, give me some constructive feedback and use a survey to put in the questions and I'll happily in sha Allah at the last day, go through all of the issues that were brought up and try to address them in sha

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