Unity does not mean Uniformity & The Hadith of the 73 sects

Yasir Qadhi

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Shaykh Dr. Yasir Qadhi in this riveting and eye opening lecture, explicitly delves into the topic of unity amongst Muslims and how unity can be achieved when the Ummah is divided in their various interpretations of Islam as we speak. 

The Prophet ﷺ said, “My Ummah will divide into seventy-three sects all of which except one will go to the Fire, and they (i.e. the Saved Sect) are those who are upon what I and My Companions are upon.”  

Using the above Hadith, many overtly enthusiastic and ill-knowledge youth and members of the Muslim community bring about various conversations that tend to malign the peace and beliefs of the Muslim Ummah leading to a natural divide and barrier that is very hard to annihilate.

Even as we say so, one major question comes to mind – Are the majority of the Ummah misguided? does every deviation direct one to the Hell Fire? 

And the final million dollar question along the lines of the aforementioned Hadith- Which group is ‘ The Saved Sect’? 

Listen intently and get those doubts answered once and for all.

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salaam aleikum wa rahmatullah wa barakato.

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Alhamdulillah wa Salatu was Salam ala rasulillah, who Allah Allah, he was a happy woman. What about yesterday, I spoke about the importance of Muslim unity. And I mentioned the ayat and the Hadith, the verses of the Quran, and the sayings of a prophet system where he commanded us to be unified together. And I mentioned the blessings of the necessity of the importance of Muslims all coming together. Now, I know that not all of you attended that talk yesterday. And unfortunately, I'm going to have to move on from where I left off over there. So for those who did not attend that talk, from what I understand, they will put that talk online, so you can listen to that talk inshallah. Tada,

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today's talk is a little bit more. Is it even possible to be more controversial than yesterday because of the q&a? A little bit more controversial? It's a little bit more academic. Because a question was asked, actually, a number of questions were asked yesterday that hinted at that one of the biggest problems of unity, and that is the problems of divisions that are very real within the oma, how can you have unity? The question was asked, how can you have unity when people have different interpretations of Islam, when somebody is doing the modal another is not doing it, somebody is doing the Taoism and other is not doing it, somebody is believing x and others believing

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y, On what basis are you going to have unity. So in today's short talk, and I want to leave some time for q&a, I want to shed light on a hadith that really gets to the crux of the matter. And this is the famous Hadith known as the Hadith of the if tarok, or the splitting up of the oma. It is literally called the Hadith of the splitting up of the oma had eaten Iraq. The idea of the splitting up of the oma and this hadith is a famous Hadith is much more added, narrated in the for senate books when in Abu Dhabi, tell me this I even imagine in the Muslim Ummah, in many other narrations of Hadith, and the gist of it, I'm not going to go into the details of each narration and who said

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what the gist of it is something you have all heard, and that is, the profitsystem said that they are who the Jews split up into 71 groups, and the Christians split up into 72 groups, and my own machelle split up into 73 groups. My own mercial split up into 73 groups. In another version of the Hadith the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said that all of them are destined for the fire except for one and he was asked which one is this? And in a Timothy the responses and Gemma are the group of Muslims in an eternal Buddha what he said that whatever I am following today, and my Sahaba are following that is the saved group.

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And these are these are well known and the bulk of them are head dethrone the bulk of the scholars have added have accepted them to be authentic, and our theologians our scholars have dealt with these a hadith as being an integral part of Islam. We believe that the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said this Now, the question arises here, our Prophet system is predicting disunity. He's quite frankly telling us my own mo will be divided into 70 groups. And here I am preaching unity.

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What is to be done? Well, firstly, realize I'm not the one preaching unity. What did I quote yesterday? alone is messenger.

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There's there the very person who predicted the disunity is commanding you to be unified. Isn't that the case? Allah says in the Quran, why don't see more the Abdullah Jamia so realize the Sharia has no contradiction, the same one who told you that a reality will happen. And that reality is that this woman will be divided is the same one who told you that you should be united. So what do we do with these, a Hadith of the 73 groups?

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Firstly, realize my dear brothers and sisters, before we even begin talking about the explanation of this Hadith, that this hadith is in fact, a miracle that demonstrates the truth of our Prophet sallallahu alayhi wasallam how so. emammal they have they were famous scholar adiz wrote a book that is now printed in 13 volumes. It is called denna Nobu. The proofs of the prophecy of our profits, alloys. How do we know he's a nebby? And he puts this hadith in that book as well. One of the evidences that our Prophet system is a prophet is the editor of the 73 groups. Why? Because at a time and place when the omo was one, when nobody could imagine difference when nobody could imagine

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that the omo would be fractured up our profits.

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predicted it, and he informed it and it has become a reality.

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And this clearly demonstrates that this hadith is a more of a miracle of our Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam. Now, the Hadith has proved to be problematic for many reasons. But it should not be problematic, it should not be problematic. And the problem comes in people misunderstanding the IDs, not from the IDs, the problem comes in people misusing and abusing the ID. And the IDS obviously cannot be problematic in and of itself. And we need to clarify and shed light on what does this mean? What is the gist? What is the intent of our Prophet sallallahu? I think he was setting them. Well, a number of points here, if some of you have paper and pen, you should take notes, this

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is going to be a little bit of an academic talk. One of the points I want to mention, notice our profit system is not commanding to be fractured up, he's predicting the fracturing up and there's a difference between the two. The command is to be unified. The command is to stick together. The prediction is that unfortunately, not everybody will do that. So we have to realize this headache is not a license to differentiate ourselves. It's not a license to open up a different federal court a different measure a different group just because of the Hadeeth didn't the process and predicted our process and predicted a lot of things. He predicted a morality he predicted by Usher. He predicted

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the spread of music and the spread of nudity, he predicted increase in murder he did not approving of any of this. It's not a stamp of approval, it's a prediction of the end of times, and the predictions of the end of times are meant to be fought against by and large, they're meant to be fought against. So this is not a license to differentiate. It's not a license to break up. It's simply a prediction that a time will come when unfortunately much of the will be divided up. As for the commands of the Quran and Sunnah, all of them stress the importance of unity. What did the process that I'm saying we quoted that had it yesterday, the believer to the other believer is like

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the bricks in the wall, each brick strengthens the other brick. What did our process that I'm saying when one member of the oma is in pain, the whole oma must be in pain. These are the commands do not conflate the commands with the predictions. What you need to do is the commands the predictions will happen you need to delay and postpone them as much as possible. also realize that our processing them use the word if the Iraq and if Iraq is a very profound word, if there are means a cleaving away or breaking a cut. This is not just a difference of opinion. He didn't say if the laugh, he said if there are and the difference between the two is the difference between the heavens and the

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earth. The oma has always had a laugh, the Sahaba the companions of our Prophet system, they disagreed amongst one another, about issues of about even compiling the Quran, Abu Bakar wanted ibaka was hesitant to cover the Koran and Roma insisted insisted insisted the Sahaba disagreed amongst themselves over many things. Their disagreements did not lead to if there are

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and we need to be very clear about this. It is okay. It is permissible. It is what the oma has done to disagree about the finer details of Islamic law to disagree about the finer interpretations of the Sharia. We have a historical legacy of disagreement. What are the mazahub except a legacy of disagreement with respect? Imam Shafi he said the famous quote that I believe my opinion to be right, but I acknowledge the possibility that I could be wrong and my opponent is right. And I believe my opponents position the other might have might be wrong, but I acknowledge the possibility that it is right. This is Mr. Musharraf very speaking. How about me and you, they accept the

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possibility of if they laugh, and they do not cause the laugh to lead to if they rock I hope you understand this Arabic here. Let me translate the Arabic here, they allowed the possibility of difference of opinion.

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And they did not allow the difference of opinion to lead to division in the oma and that was the gist of my responses yesterday that we need to agree to disagree about the finer points of Islamic law. It's not something we need to split massage it over the traditional Madonna hip, our historical legacy that the oma has accepted Allah has written COBOL for these positions. And if somebody is praying with the hand here or there or saying I mean out loud or taraweeh is eight or 20 or whatever.

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positions might be found subhana wa our Sahaba it is authentically narrated, we have dozens of different fatawa unfilled positions within the era of the Sahaba. And they love one another, they prayed behind one another, they didn't boycott one another, they didn't build a different messenger, just because once they had a different position, they understood that not every difference of opinion should lead to a difference of the heart. And this is the key point that we've already move on. That the wording of our profit system is not fit lap. It is what I want everybody to tell, tell me what is it? If still rock and Iraq means you break away and cut off. And you you can disagree

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without breaking away and cutting off, you can have a laugh. Without

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iraq memorize this phrase, you can have a laugh without Iraq and the Sahaba are the best example of this. Also from this added another point we learn is that the general ruling the us and we call it in Arabic, the basic in English we can say the status quo is that the oma shall be one and cohesive and small groups will break away if the rock must occur from a large hole if the rock must occur from a massive amount, and then you have small groups breaking away. So it's not as if the entire bulk of the oma will disintegrate. No, it is rather that they will be splinter groups, but the bulk of the oma will remain. And we'll get to this point after a while. Another point of benefit here.

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The Prophet says that I mentioned that my own mo was split into 73 groups. Now, many of the scholars understood this had these to be verbatim literal 73. And they would write books. We have books from the fourth century of the hijra, the fifth century of the Hydra, the sixth century of the Hydra, listing the groups the first group is this the second group, it is the third group and is all 73. But there was one problem. Every time somebody wrote a book, the next few years another group was formed.

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And this is historically true. Every time a scholar wrote a book and the experts here in Mashallah, there are a number of Messiah and elders here and I'm embarrassed to be speaking in front of these elders. We're lucky Allah knows, but a lot of them was done, but our elders here and the machines here know that there were books written in the fourth, fifth 678 centuries, and they kept on listing the 73 groups. But the problem is, every time they finished one book, within a few years, another theology appeared, another group appeared. And therefore this led to another opinion, which is in Sharla, it seems to be the stronger opinion. And that is that the number seven and 70 and 700 is an

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Arabic expression, not meant to be understood, literally 73.

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And the evidence for this are numerous beyond the scope of this class. And once again, the elders who have studied Arabic and batalha know what I'm talking about here, but this is a type of Kenai or a type of allusion. Allah says in the Quran in surah Toba into stuff in the home submarine Mr. Ratan linear fit Allahu Allah, Allah speaking about the hypocrites, and he tells our prophets are set up, even if you were to ask 70 times that they be forgiven. Allah will not forgive them. This is about them one after pain. Now, does this mean if he were to ask 71 a level forgive?

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It's an expression 70 times 700 I visited you 70 times and the Arabs would say Zoo Casa Marina Mara, it's an expression and it means a quantity round about 70. So we don't have to be so literal that we list one group two group three group. And this is actually perhaps a mistake that some of the scholars made and other scholars disagreed with this. And they said no, it's not literally 73 it is a generic 73 and the point of the Hadith is that our oma will have more groups than the other members. Our own mo will have more groups than the other homers. Now, why does our oma have more groups than the other omus? Well, a person can say this is something that denigrates our oma

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compared to the other members. They were luckier than us. And is it our own mother Best of all, omers. And we respond. In fact, the fact that we have more groups is a blessing for our oma because it demonstrates many things. First and foremost demonstrates that our oma will have the longest life frame, the longest timeframe, the longest period of existence, all the other omas lived for shorter periods of time, and they still disagree in 7172 groups, and we'll look at how long you know, Judaism flourished in the early ages then Christianity came how long

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Christianity flourished and now it is on the decline. And Islam is the one that is lasting and spreading, and the people are still believing in it and the converts are still coming in. Secondly, it is a blessing that we are the most multicultural of all of Allah almost ever, ever. No oma has ever been as multicultural, multi ethnic as us, obviously because Allah sent one ad in a hallway that the Buddha home. Every single prophet went to one nation. So what did you expect except that one nation to believe in Him? We are the only oma our profit system was sent Rahmatullah the mean in a lobby will Agim to the Arab and the non Arab to the white and the black and everybody in between.

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And all you need to do is to look at any conference, any conference of a religion, and you go to any church, any synagogue, any other temple, and then you go to the masjid. And you see the cultural diversity, the fact that despite this diversity, we only have one extra, this is a miracle and a blessing for us. And also the most important point, we are the only oma that will have one correct and and right and rightly guided sect of the 73 and the others did not have this rightly guided sect, the others none of them were rightly guided. And that's why Allah had to send another prophet. We are the only oma we shall have as a professor Salim said, the editors of this editors in Bacardi

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that there will always be a group of my oma clearly manifests upon the truth, there will always be a group of my own ma clearly manifest upon the truth until the judgment of a law comes or the verdict of a law comes, meaning the Day of Judgment. So this group of oma, this saved group or the right group shall be in existence until the day of judgment, and no other previous oma had this blessing. So in fact, for us to have 73 groups and the other mono cultural, one culture, small time periods to have 72 and 71. This is a blessing for us knowing that we are the one that has the rightly guided group as well. Another point of benefit that we're deriving from this hadith is that our Prophet

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sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said that all of them will be in the fire of hell except for one. And this leads to actually a big problem that some people have with this headache. And it has caused some of the modernists to reject had these to reject it. And we are not of those people. I am not of those people. If the Hadith is authentic, then we accept it as coming from our Prophet sallallahu alayhi wasallam. But this hadith has been rejected by many people who believe that it's problematic for this reason, what is the reason they say

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72 out of 73 is a big fraction. And the Hadith is saying that the bulk of the oma therefore are misguided, and the bulk of the oma will go to hell. You see the problem? Do you understand the problem? The claim is being made. I am not saying this, don't misquote me. If you're sleeping wake up. The claim is being made by some misinformed people, that this hadith tells us that the bulk of the oma is misguided and the bulk of the oma is going to join them. After all, 72 out of 73 is a large fraction is not not the case, right? Now Subhan Allah This is a big misunderstanding. And all you need to do to correct it is simple math and history. Simple math and history. 72 out of 73 is a

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large fraction, only if each of the units is exactly the same.

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If one group has 50 people, another group has 1000 people, another group has 70 people and Mashallah diabolical law, the largest has hundreds of 1000s millions, then who cares about all of the 70 to put together

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and this is the reality of our oma, you look at the groups that have deviated genuine people have strange ideologies. The first split to ever occur in the oma, this is a historical fact was that a group called the hardage Heights, the rebels and they had some bizarre beliefs. They had some beliefs that the sinner becomes a non Muslim. If you lie, you cheat, you steal, automatically you become a Catholic. This is their theology. If you do something wrong, you drink alcohol. This makes you a caffeine. This is a extremist group and they have some bizarre tendencies and whatnot. Now,

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they are still around to this day, believe it or not, they are still around to this day. But if you gather all

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them up and you look at their quantity. They are less than 0.5% of the whole oma less than 0.5% of the whole oma.

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The bulk of the groups that appeared withered away and no longer exist in our times. There was a group called the Jamia

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there is a group called the Jamia and if you read any book of theology, if you even read Sahil Bahati and we have Mashallah the Shere Khan, Sahib ohada hero Trinidad sitting amongst as much elder Tabata Kala What did remember Bahati called his last book, Cotabato eight word Allah Jamia the book of the hate and refuting the jack Mija Who are these Jamia? They no longer exist? They no longer exist. Yet our classical scholars they wrote many books against them. The ignorant person would assume this Jamia must be every second person amongst me He must be hiding behind my door you must be this. The reality is they were as with all such groups, barking loudly but having no bites.

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They have presence with the tongue, but not with actual followers. And again, just for your information going into a tangent here that Alhamdulillah my master's dissertation from Medina was about the founder of the Jamia Mohammed bin Salman and his theological views and I wrote an under the 800 pages rotation available in Arabic two volumes about the theology of jab and soften and its effects on the oma. Now this research that I did, I discovered that the Jamia never numbered more than 50 people

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50 people

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yet because their beliefs were so bizarre and they were spreading it trying to spread it so much our scholars wrote many books against them. But the fact of the matter is they were so small, another classical group called the mortality law, another famous group of the past, they became so powerful, even the halifa became a part of their group. And he began persecuting Muslims, he persecuted him for believing in Sunni theology, he almost killed him because of this, but where are the more it isn't until they're all gone. So 72 out of 73, when most of the 72 might not even exist anymore, when the ones that do exist, are always and have always been a minority. They're not the majority.

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So therefore, the bulk of the oma is rightly guided and shall always remain rightly guided. And this is not something I am saying. This is something that is mutawatir It is reported in numerous traditions of our Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, he was the one who told us it to the Sahaba he said to the Sahaba Wouldn't you love it that if you one oma and and by the way, there have been over 100,000 prophets as we know, so 100,000 members, right? He told us uh, how would you not love it? That if you will, one third of the whole people of Jenna, the Sahaba said Allahu Akbar, one oma competing with 99,000 other omens and we are one third a lot luck. But then he paused. Then he said,

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What about if I told you you are half of the people have gender? A lot of luck?

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Then he said, Well, law he in neither of you, I hope that you shall be two thirds of the people of gender.

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What does this show the bulk of the oma Alhamdulillah our people of righteousness into

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our profit system and into the head. He said, I saw the profits one after the other, and they're almost were raised in front of me and a prophet had five people, a prophet had 10 people, a prophet had one person and I even saw a prophet with nobody behind him. He didn't have a single convert. He didn't have an oma. Then I saw a massive amount raised up, and I hoped it was my alma, but it was said to me, no, this is the oma of Musa alayhis salam. Then it was raised to me another amount that block the horizons. And that was told to me this is your oma.

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So my dear brothers and sisters, don't take one Hadith and derive 7273 and then say hello, everybody is going to join them. No, look at the other ahaadeeth as well look at in the context of the very person who told you that 72 or 72 are misguided looked at in the context of history, Islamic history. The bulk of these sectarian differences no longer exist. Where are the jamea where are the more tequila the hottest guys are barely found in? Only one country in Oman in Oman. I just killed shouldn't have said that I just said and in Oman there are some cottage I'd still this is the reality. The government of Oman and the Grand Mufti is still following this type of theology they

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have but small minority, not every Romani By the way, the bulk of their Omani citizens are

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Sunni Muslims, but the minority that is in charge is of this group. But the point being, how, what percentage of the oma and even with like 0.5% This is a bit high, maybe even 0.3%, something of this nature, something very trivial like this. So, the point being that, to claim that the bulk of the woman is misguided and going to jahannam is a huge it's a grossly inaccurate statement. It ignores the reality of our religion. It ignores what our prophet SAW Selim himself said, in so many other ahaadeeth. Yet another point of benefit is that our Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam is saying that my alma shell divided into 73 groups, my own shell divided to 73 groups. Now, this one phrase

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is perhaps the most important phrase that I want to leave you with. In this entire lecture.

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He said, My oma

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I want those words to sink in almighty.

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Our Prophet Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wa sallam sending them is saying that every one of these 73 I have a relationship with him, even if there's some disagreements, but he is from my he's almighty.

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Anybody who comes and says this man is not from omata. Mama is a Catholic, you have disobeyed your own Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wasallam. Do you understand this point here, our school system is saying my oma, which means he's not talking about the groups that have left the fold of Islam. those groups are not a part of the 73. There are groups that believe in bizarre beliefs in America, maybe you've not heard of them. They're called the Nation of Islam.

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Elijah Muhammad preached back in the 1930s. He said that a stock for a lot. This is what he believes that Allah came in the form of a man to earth. And he preached some bizarre theology and whatnot. We don't consider the Nation of Islam to be on the 73 list. They're outside the fold of Islam, that they don't make it to the list even. There are groups that believe in a prophet after our Prophet Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, and we do not have any difference of opinion that anybody who believes in an MB in a soon after cartoon or been after a moment will send in than helaas. End of story. You are not a Muslim, I don't care what you call yourself. You are not on the 73 list.

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So those who have different theologies? That might be incorrect. But those theologies don't expel them from the fold of Islam.

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They are within the 73. And therefore, each and every one of them is a Muslim.

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So all of the mid thigh quoted yesterday. And I hope that those of you who are not here today, please listen to that lecture, because it's very important. Is it actually a part two of that lecture, all of the mid thigh quoted yesterday about kindness to Muslims mercy to Muslims Salaam to Muslims visiting the Muslim sick following the grave of the Muslim praying over the Muslim, they apply to every single one of the 73 because they are of the owner of our Prophet Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wa sallam.

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He said in amati, he is ascribing a relationship between these people and himself. Who are we to deny that relationship? Yes, there are some bizarre beliefs. Yes, that's true. Some people have strange ideologies. But and this is a question we'll answer at the end. As long as that ideology doesn't reach the level of blasphemy, of course,

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we will say these groups are within the fold of Islam. And by and large, my dear brothers and sisters, the bulk of the oma has at hamdulillah followed the general ideology of Islam. And we'll get to this point in a while. Another point as well, that we need to mention over here is that no doubt the other 72 groups, the processes 72 are misguided 72 are going to join them, no doubt they are all Muslims, as we said, but they have done something that causes some type of breaking away. Now, what have they done that causes them to break away? And this is a question that obviously is a very important one. Yet it is also the one that requires the most amount of knowledge and so it is

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very difficult to answer this question. so easily. It requires the most amount of knowledge that what is the last, what is the if there are what is the level of difference that is reached between

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For a group actually becomes a member of the different group. But by and large, our scholars have said that a fundamental difference of theology is what breaks away from the unity of the Muslims, not differences in legal opinions.

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Differences in legal opinions, by and large have been tolerated by the Sahaba at Abbey Road. And as a general rule of thumb, I want all of you to memorize a simple rule that Alhamdulillah our oma has had a number of Madame must haves in Sunni law. And we have historically accepted these methods as being legitimate interpretations, legitimate attempts to follow Islam. any differences found within these methods should never Cause if there are,

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any differences found within these methods should never Cause if there are, the legal differences of opinion, should never cause differences of the heart. Take this as a general rule of thumb. And we have so many narrations from Imam Abu hanifa himself from your mama shall pray for me my Malik. from him, I'm admittedly humble about how they respected the other scholars, even if they disagreed with them.

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And unfortunately, it is the ignorant people that is not the true scholars, it is the ignorant people who say, Oh, you say amin out loud, I'm not going to pray behind you. You pray with your hands here, I'm not going to pray behind you, you do this, I'm not going to pray behind you. So panela,

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one of the most famous students of Imam Abu hanifa. And his name was Mohammed Shivani went to study with Imam Malik, or mo lozada. And he became one of the most famous students of Eman Malik. And he told his students I benefited from the both of them from him ematic and from a memorable hanifa.

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And this is the attitude of the early scholars. Unfortunately, it is our scholars, or sometimes our ignorant people, not scholars who don't understand differences of legal opinions do not and should not break differences of art. So what does break the exterior? Where does the rock come? For example, if somebody denies other, he says I don't believe in culture.

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This is a huge issue. It's not a trivial issue.

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And scholars will decide is this denial that leads to deviation or it leads to heresy and blasphemy. And by and large, this is an advanced issue. But by and large to say that we don't believe that the things are written down. This is a huge deviation, but it's not covered. This is a bit out we call it but it's not covered. And so we say anybody who believes that there's no harm that he denies further, we say this person is one of the 72 groups. This theology is not our theology. He's still a Muslim, but he's got some strange beliefs, beliefs that are not fully in accordance. So what makes an if there are a fundamental difference of theology, not a trivial difference of theology. That's

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another point I want to make here. We said legal differences never should reach if the rock is that clear, legal differences that are traditional and classical. By the way, I have to make a clarification here, modern interpretations that are completely against what our classical scholars said, Now that's something else. We have somebody in America stuff for the law, if you haven't heard of this, but you should be aware he is performing marriages between same sex people. He mom,

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quote, unquote, shift. Now here we say I don't care what you know if this is legal or theological. You have rejected what our oma has agreed upon.

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And this is a heresy and deviation. You have rejected what the oma has agreed upon. So not every legal difference of opinion. But I'm saying what was my rule of thumb, the classical differences within the mme that have been accepted, and for your level hanafy shaft for a Maliki Hanbury, these are the four historically there are more the advanced students know this. But for our level at this level, the format is the differences between them should never reach the level of if there are separating massages, not praying behind people, not at all and anybody who does this with all respect to them. They are not knowledgeable of Islam. They're acting in a manner that is overzealous

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and ignorant, but a change of theology of a major nature. Now, a change of theology of a minor nature does not necessarily break away from the oma and I want to be very blunt and controversial here. After all, what's my middle name?

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Exactly, Mr. controversial.

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I want to give an example here I gave an example yesterday.

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And I'll give a similar example today. The issue of celebrating the birthday of the prophet SAW Selim.

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Again a very heated

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Debate takes place. And again, you have Argent champions on this side and ardent deniers and naysayers on the other. And it is my humble position and opinion that this difference of opinion should not lead to if there are, even if there is, if they laugh.

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Let me repeat, that's what the term I'm using these Arabic on purpose, by the way, and you can learn these two words of Arabic, this is an st laugh, it is a difference. And it is a difference that needs to be discussed needs to be debated by the academics needs to have a discussion and let the people are interested come in and be interested. But it should not lead to if they rock we should agree to disagree in a manner without blaming the other party. I have a position.

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And I respect the other position. Even if I respectfully disagree with it. You understand my point here? I believe my position is right. As Mr. Michel, he said, I believe my position is right. But I allow the possibility that the other group shall mother sincerity alone will reward them. They're coming together out of love of the Prophet. So I might disagree and how they express that love. But Can anybody say these people have stuff for a lot of stuff for a lot? Anybody will say they're not Muslim? Because they're practicing the mo dude. Will anybody say their cafard stuff for the love for doing this? Think about this? No, of course not. I might say this is not the best way to express

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love. This is my position. But I acknowledge what is the NEA that they have in their hearts? Why are they doing what they're doing out of love for the prophesy Lloyd center. And that love is something I have been commanded to have as well. So I look at the basis and I say okay, this isn't enough. And let us discuss let us debate. You bring your evidence, I bring my evidence, let our students of knowledge come together and listen to their Messiah. But at the end of the day, let us shake our hands and hug one another and realize what combines us is love and the job of the Nabi sallallahu alayhi wa sallam isn't that the case? Right? So let us agree that the basis of this disagreement is

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in fact, no disagreement. And that is loving the Prophet. So I said, look at the positives. And I'm not saying I repeat what I said yesterday, don't ignore the negatives don't ignore these differences. But don't ignore the positives as well. Don't ignore the negatives as well. So not every lab should lead to Iraq. Not every difference of opinion leads to a division. Now, another point that we're coming here. Another point that we come to here is that the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam remarked that there is one saved group.

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And obviously, the question on everybody's mind is,

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which group is that?

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And the response is very simple. depends on who you ask.

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Because every single group, I mean, do you know any group that says, oh, we're part of the 72? You You guys are the 73rd?

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Do you know any group like that? Oh, we are the bald lien and you are the silicon mustafi? Do you know any group? I don't know any group like that? Right? So the reality is, I cannot tell you what is the same group? Because you have to answer to Allah on the day of judgment about yourself and not me.

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You have to answer about yourself in front of a lot. And you cannot say, oh, a chef said and that's why correct. You have to use what Allah has given you of your knowledge of your intellect, of your sincerity, and you make that decision. And we have certain generic guidelines from our Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, and of those guidelines are mentioned in Timothy in Abu Dhabi and others. He said in one of the Hadith, Al Jemma and Gemma are translates as the group and one of the main meanings of Al Gemma and then primary meaning of the word To be honest, the primary meaning it means the masses the bulk,

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the bulk of Jama

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and this shows us one of the blessings Allah has given us and that is, and he has given this to our Prophet system and that is, the bulk of his oma shall be generically rightly guided. The bulk of the oma shall be those who are eligible.

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And historically speaking, look at the bulk of the Muslims look at what combines them, love of Allah subhana wa tada worship of Allah subhana wa tada respect of the messenger following the Sunnah of the prophet system loving the Sahaba. Believing in the six pillars of Eman. Isn't this the case that the bulk of the Muslims around

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In the world, they have the same simple, generic beliefs that all of us in this room have. We can ask even the child, what are the six pillars of a man, we can ask this child in China, we can ask the child in America, we can ask a child in Trinidad. And they will say the six pillars of human belief in Allah and His messengers in the minute I can go ahead and call it Russia. We can ask generic questions that should we follow? Who should we follow? Who is our role model, according to Islam, and they will say our role models the prophets, etc. So if you ask basic questions of theology, guess what the bulk of the oma is on the same theology. And this leads us to another

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point.

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We judge a person not based upon the group his father gave him, but based upon his own self. We don't care if he prays in this must either that Masjid will law IE we do not care. We do not care if the Imam of the masjid has a belief we disagree with the average Muslim on the face of this earth believes in a generic belief that we have as well.

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And this is something every one of you knows from your own experiences in reality

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no Muslim is born with a label across his face. That's only the job. Don't bring it into the Muslims. That gel will be born with the label. You know this what label with the Jadhav

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gaffer he's the one cafard he's written there Alhamdulillah nobody else was born like that. No Muslim has a label. So suppose his family is from group x. His Imam is from group Why?

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It is not correct for you. Just because he goes to the group x Masjid praise behind the group why Imam. Actually, this is how his father taught him Islam. This is the chef he knows as a child, okay. But generically, he is not aware of the details of that theology. He doesn't know that the chef might believe XYZ. He's just going to pray tomorrow, where his father taught him to pray tomorrow. You understand my point here. So for you to label him as Oh, he's all x. This is a big mistake. Because if you were to ask him, as I said, generic questions, simple questions about Islam, about love of the process of them about the event. For example, what are the simple thing that combines

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most Muslims of the world? Which books do you study? If you want to study Islam, you will study Sahih Bukhari Sahih. Muslim you will study the Quran, the Tafseer of Jelena interessieren, Katia, these are the standard books across all curriculums of the Sunni world. And this is the reality. So for us to now create divisions when they do not actually exist. This is a problem. We're reading in divisions where they don't actually exist. So what did our processes say? Another thing he said, what I am following today, my companions, and this shows us and this is another very controversial issue, but I will say it, yes, respect of the companions is fundamental to our religion.

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Because our process and made it fundamental, because the law makes it fundamental, or the Allahu anhu model when it occurs half a dozen times in the Quran, Allah is pleased with them, they are pleased with him. So anybody who does not respect the companions, we say to this person, that this is a belief that causes deviation. This is a belief that is not within the correct beliefs, they might still be within the 73. We're not kicking them out of Islam. We're not kicking them out of Islam, but this is a deviation. And this deviation must be corrected. But we get to the next point here now, that suppose a person of these 72 the the wrong the misguided ones dies in that state.

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What does this mean?

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Many people will assume automatically, oh, he's john and Carlos, because the process of him said the 72 are going to jam them except for one. We're talking about, by the way, somebody who genuinely has a theological issue, he denies other or he doesn't respect the Sahaba. That type of person. We're not talking about generic Sony's generic Sony's are Sony's generic Sony's. And by Sony, what do I mean, by the way, I mean, those who worship Allah alone, who believe in the finality of the process of them who respect the Sahaba, this is really in essence with the Sudanese respect of the Sahaba is what was the defining characteristic of Sunni Islam, all the other groups that formed they didn't

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respect the Sahaba, the average and the other non Sunni groups, you know, which groups I'm referencing here that these groups did not respect the Sahaba, the groups that respected the Sahaba they're generically called Sunni groups. Now, there are fine differences within the Sunni groups. And this is a reality we all know, but these differences are fine. These differences are trivial compared to the differences with the other groups and a lot of times these

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differences are created by us. His father happened to be a member of this Jamaat, his father happened to a member of that Masjid his family is known to support that cause so we labeled him Oh That guy is that that guy is that but in reality, this guy is praying five times a day and this guy is praying five times a day. In reality these guys fasting Ramadan disguised fasting, I'm about in reality, these guys facing Mecca these guys facing America, in reality he's reading Quran is reading Quran. So we are creating these divisions, frankly, much of which are imaginary. And even if some are real, and I gave you the example that the malu there, what not, okay, I disagree, and I might

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not do it. But in the end of the day, this should not lead to

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Iraq, I hope you memorize this phrase. Now, this should not lead to Iraq. Now, suppose as we said, somebody dies with a wrong theology.

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Somebody who is not respectful of the Sahaba a group is the second largest group does not generally respect the Sahaba we say this is a problem is definitely a problem. We're not going to ignore it, we're not going to shove it under the rug. It's a problem.

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What does this mean?

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It means that this belief, is a belief that could potentially be punished by Allah subhanho wa Taala, on the day of judgment. But two things. Number one, even if this person is punished, he's still a Muslim.

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Which means eventually, what

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will enter Jannah because we already verified that the 73 groups are all from the oma, we already verified this. So we believe and this is well known. And this is proven in the Quran and Sunnah, that eventually, every Muslim man holla, holla, holla, holla holla gender, whoever says La Ilaha, Illa YT, any of the conditions are met of that either Allah meaning he acts upon it, he believes in it. And generically, all of these 73 groups believe in La ilaha illAllah, Muhammad Rasulullah, we already said, anybody who worships another god, the Nation of Islam says God comes down on earth, and they worship this man, I'm sorry, that's not a Muslim, anybody who denies the finality of the

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prophecies, and this is we're not talking about them. They don't, they're not in the equation.

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But whoever says La ilaha illAllah, Muhammad Rasulullah. And they believe in this, the way that it should be believed in the act upon it the way basically, they salah and Zika, and how Gen mobile and whatnot. And this is the bulk of the woman, even if they have deviation be that they will be punished if Allah wants them to be punished for a period of time, and then eventually they will go to agenda. So you can hate them as much as you want in this world. You have to be with them eternally in the next

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Think about that.

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The second point,

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the second point, about this sub point, I should say this is a sub point of this one.

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We said it is possible Allah might punish them. Notice I said it is possible that a lot might punish them. Look at the disclaimers here. Why? Because my dear brothers and sisters, we believe very clearly from the Quran and Sunnah. Again, the evidences for this are beyond the scope of this talk. So for now, you're just gonna have to trust me What I'm saying is not controversial. All theologians agree to this, that any punishment mentioned in the Quran, Allah has the right to forgive anybody whom he wants. We all know this, don't we? Yellow Pharaoh de Manya Sha.

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Allah can forgive whoever he wants.

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A man drinks. And he dies while he was in the state of he has whiskey in his home and he still dies and he hasn't repented.

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Don't we say Oh Allah in suppose he was a righteous man in other matters. And by the way, it is not inconceivable. We're lucky I know of so many people in America, they are addicted to wine. They're addicted to heroin, but they're guilty for it. And they give so much to the question. And I know a brother that ne Subhana Allah May Allah guide him and all of us that he does, unfortunately drink but he feels very guilty. And Allah has blessed him with a lot of wealth. And believe it or not, every Ramadan he goes for to do Ramadan, every romaji goes to the umbra. Now, we can laugh at this and there is a comedy element involved as well. Right. But what does that show?

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through some man somewhere? Correct. There is some amount he doesn't have to go over and leave his job. He's a multimillionaire whatnot and he has the luxury to do anything right? He could go to the Bahamas, he could go to Trinidad Mashallah it's about a COLA

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and enjoy himself was a lot of enjoyment here as well Mashallah. But he decides every year to go for ombre. Now what does that show? Perhaps a lot of people

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Perhaps on the Day of Judgment alone, we'll look at the evil that he's done. And look at the good, he's built massager, he's gone for O'Mara. He's done this and that and say, because of the good I shall forgive the evil. Don't we believe this that the law is original forgive people for their sins, if they have good deeds. So, my dear brothers and sisters, a deviation is like a sin.

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A deviation is like a sin, take it as a type of sin, because it is a type of sin to Crystal Sahaba is a sin, to deny others a sin, these are not these are not these are you incur a loss wrath, but every sin is judged on an individual basis, individual merit.

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And Allah will take into account many things of them. Number one, how much knowledge this person have.

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What if this person was totally ignorant of the Quran,

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and he just read it in Arabic and not understood it. And his father taught him that Islam teaches us to curse the Sahaba just suppose I'm just giving an example. And this was his version of Islam. And his whole life he grew up and he died thinking this is what Islam is about. And he is praying five times a day. He is fasting Ramadan, he goes for his Hajj, he avoids the major sins and his ignorance of what he's doing.

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Alone might forgive an ignorant person, what if he has this deviation, but I gave an example of he has a lot of good deeds as well,

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shareholder, some even taymiyah very famous scholar and somebody who was very clear cut about what is right and wrong. And theology, he is a theologian, he had been Tamia said that it is possible that a person of deviation Ll beija. He said, a person of deviation will occupy a higher rank than a Sunni Muslim, a person of the Sunnah because the Sunni Muslim didn't have that many good deeds and the person of deviation had more good deeds and Allah forgave him for wisdom known to him.

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So you realize my dear brothers and sisters that even if somebody has a deviation,

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the judge will always remain Who? Allah subhana wa tada in NEMA radical bada who is up with your job is to convey a large job is to judge we tell the whole Muslim world that anybody who curses the Sahaba has done a major sin. Anybody who disrespects abubaker, and Roma and Arusha we fear a loss, curse upon them, we say this unabashedly. And we say this very clearly, at the same time, we cannot say when we meet somebody on the street, and he happens to believe in that type of theology, you are somebody Allah has cursed.

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How do I know that? How do I know that? Am I the judge? No, let us always remember the very powerful Hadith in Sahih Muslim, that the Prophet system said there was a righteous man in Bani Israel, that the Israelites and he was a good, solid, righteous man, and he would pass by his neighbor who was a drunkard.

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And he would always remind him Fira law give up drinking.

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And the drunkard would always just ignore him.

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One day, the drunk quit in a state of drunkenness. He got angry at this righteous man after Can you imagine after months and years of this? He said, Who do you think you are? Has Allah appointed you to be my guardian and boss?

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The drunkard said to the righteous man, who do you think you are to preach to me? Are you my guardian? Are you the guy in charge of me? Are you my boss? Now the drunkard fell into two sins. The first sin is drinking. And the second is sin is being rude to somebody who's giving him good advice. Okay, what happened? The righteous man became arrogant.

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And he said, one lie, he I swear by Allah, Allah will never forgive you.

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And arrogance filled his heart. He thought himself better than this map.

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And arrogance is a far far bigger sin than drinking alcohol and being rude.

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And the law said, there's a law said, and who do you think you are? to speak in my name?

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And to swear by me that I shall never forgive him. Rather, this is the Hadith rather, I have

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obliterated your righteousness because of your arrogance. And this one, his repentance will be accept meaning he will repent later on and he will intergender

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What does this show us? My dear brothers and sisters? Well, law he My dear brothers and sisters, many of us, we feel this way about Muslims have different groups, different ideologies, different theologies, we feel we are superior to them in our persons. And we should never feel this. Rather, let me be very frank here, we should feel our theology is better than that theology, but maybe I'm not better than him. You see the difference between the two? Right? I say unabashedly, that respect of the Sahaba, giving one example you understand what there are many other examples, respect of the Sahaba is something that is absolutely a part of our faith and tradition and religion. And anybody

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who disagrees? I fear generically for such a person. But suppose I need somebody who actually believes that the Sahaba are misguided, I can never feel that I am superior to him, person to person in the eyes of Allah, I don't know, maybe I have a sin, maybe I have arrogance, maybe I have something else. So we have to be very clear the difference between speaking generically about theology and specifically about the person who follows the theology, the theology might be better, but I do not know who I am and my sins and that person and his sins and His righteousness. And we never, ever, ever feel that we are better than any other person.

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And to do so, is the definition of arrogance, as said by our Prophet salallahu it he was setting them. So the point is brothers and sisters, and again, much can be said, but time is of the essence. The point is here, that this Hadith of the 73 groups, it is an authentic ID. It is a hadith that has much profound wisdom and benefit, but it is not a hadith that is intended to cause division. Rather, quite the contrary, there is a lot of positive elements in the Hadith. And if we only understood the Hadith properly, then we would understand that our Prophet sallallahu wasallam is predicting positive things, not negative things. He is saying the bulk of the oma shall remain rightly guided

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and the bulk of the oma has remained rightly guided more than 85 to 90% of the oma respects the Sahaba generically, they are Sunni, and inshallah they are the rightly guided group generically, they follow the beliefs of Islam, within the Sunni movements, if there are specific changes and whatnot. There are, as I said, the average person following these groups, he doesn't know the reality, and he's believing in Allah and His messenger. Also, those who disagree with us, they are other traditions.

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They might not respect us a habit they might deny further, even them, we say, look, we disagree with you. And perhaps our disagreements are such that we should have separate massages. And I firmly believe, by the way that anybody who curses the Sahaba I'm speaking for myself, I will never pray behind such a person. This is my but my praying behind them doesn't mean I say he's a Catholic means I just I could not concentrate knowing this is a person who curses the Sahaba This is me, I could not concentrate my Salah will go haywire. And I don't see the point. Historically, those groups have had different massages, okay, fine, but they're still generically within the oma.

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And Allah will judge each and every one of them on an individual level, not on the group level. And those individuals might have excuses, they might have good deeds, and they might indeed be punished. And as for us, my dear brothers and sisters, those who believe in the six pillars of eemaan, those who generically believe La ilaha illAllah, Muhammad Rasul Allah, we respect the Sahaba. As for us Alhamdulillah, we firmly believe that our theology is correct. But let us also realize that arrogance is one of the worst sins in the eyes of Allah subhana wa Tada. And let us realize that just because I have a good theology doesn't make me a good Muslim. theology is one aspect of Islam.

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And there are many other aspects of Islam.

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theology is one element. How about Salah? Who should Koran tahajjud ibadah How about o'clock manners? Our Profit System set a dino and more Amada, the entire religion centers around how you deal with other people, our provinces that have said that should not tell you about the one whom jahannam has been made out on foot, this person will not need to jahannam the one who's soft spoken soft hearted, kind and gentle. How about that? So what if a soft spoken soft hearted kind and gentle person has the wrong belief? What's going to happen then?

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They fall likelihood if he was a righteous Muslim

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In other aspects, Allah is a fool. Allah is Rahim Allah is rough man. Allah is what dude. My dear brothers and sisters, if one of us were to be put on the gates of Jenna 90% of humanity returned away. We thank Allah, Allah is the judge.

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We thank Allah, Allah is the judge, and one of the famous scholars of the past Sophia under 30. He said that I am happier. That's a lot. I would rather that Allah judge me than even my own mother, and I'm happier that Allah is the judge than even my own mother.

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And this is the reality. So my dear brothers and sisters, I conclude by reminding myself and all of you that Alhamdulillah this oma is a blessing. It is an omen, as our president said his own martoma it is a blessing of mercy. It is an omen that has been blessed by Allah with the greatest blessings and the oma has been given and that is to be a member of the Prophet Mohammed systems on this is a blessing that no other nation has been given and we are of his oma. So let us thank Allah subhana wa tada that we are of that oma, let us understand that, indeed, if the love does occur, but if the draft does not lead to Iraq, let us realize that even these differences that exist, these

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differences in Sharla still remain within the fold of the oma and let us make our hearts big enough to accept differences of opinion. We don't have to all unity does not mean uniformity. So very simple statement here. Unity does not mean uniformity. Unity does not mean you have to pray exactly like I pray and you have to say I mean or don't say I mean like I do, or you have to do this or do that no, unity does not mean uniformity. Unity means your hearts are united under Allah subhana wa tada and Allah says in the Quran in the Hydra Yamato omoton wahida. Well, hon confiable June, this is your own, it is one oma and I am your Lord. So worship me alone. So brothers and sisters, let us

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try to come together to resolve these differences. Let us try to come together to overcome these problems and tensions that exist and this is my last speech in Trinidad for the time being and shallow data alone knows when I'm going to come again. So let me conclude this speech by having absorbed three and a half days of treaty slang to try to I hope you guys would love to try to

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talk a little bit like your accent that I find to be so cool Mashallah. It's about a cola

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all your Muslims

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listen and listen. Well. I have something to tell you.

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Here this is a serious thing is a serious serious thing. Man, all your Muslims you need to learn to live together

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inshallah set up I want

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to