Ruqya Course 10 – The Ruqya Session

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smilla hamdulillah salat wa salam ala rasulillah Allah Allah He was a human wanna know that.

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We're looking now from talking about what Rukia is, you now know methods that you can use for performing Rukia.

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You now know how you should be as an individual, and how your patient should be as a person. So now we kind of come down to boil everything we've done down from the last day and a half into the actual Rukia session itself.

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And let's split the Rukia session into before, during and after.

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And there's no doubt that, you know, certainly the things we're going to mention here will give you an indication, they will not give you everything. Eventually, you know, your experience and your your learning and your your seeking knowledge will continue to add to the information that you have that you're going to use in this Rokia session.

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However you want and I really want to emphasize this. I want you people sitting here today, to practice Rokia, I want you to go out and to give to do and perform Rukia upon people, I don't want you to leave this as I heard some words about Rukia. And I learned a few things, and then go back and do nothing. I want you guys to get involved, be delighted. And that might be in partnership with someone that might be with your family that might be beginning with your local area. Because we are in desperate need of people who are going to take on this responsibility for the sake of Allah azza wa jal

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before the Rukia session,

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before the Rukia session, you're going to have a discussion with the patient. Before this, we talk about what this discussion may contain.

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And reminding you what we said about ordering the good and forbidding the evil, you may want to send your patient some information before they even come or to have some information present on a website or on your Facebook or whatever, before they even come, that sets out certain ground rules in order to come and join the good and to forbid the evil. So you say straight up. If you're going to come to me, sister, my sister in Islam, you're going to come with hijab.

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And if you're not coming with hijab, then I'm not coming to doodle pee on you.

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And then you can put it nicer than that. But I'm trying to emphasize to you in a way that you are going to be ordering the good and forbidding the evil, and you're not going to be compromising. And you're going to be bearing in mind the information we've heard about the rocky and the family.

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So before the session, before the session, and this is very important, manage your time. And I say this because this is something that I feel that I haven't done brilliantly in the past, you can get talking to someone about their experiences. And there's only two minutes left for the rokeya. And you manage to read a fatty hand they go. Why? Because the shape on wants anything to delay, anything that the shape arm can do to stop you reading any single method, the shape Han can use to stop you reading he will do so. And they can't do anything unless Allah azza wa jal was for it to happen. So do manage your time set yourself an idea of how long you want the conversation to take. Some certain

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patients will talk forever, they will talk again and they will mention, you know, and someone will come to you and say some of these patients have been suffering for 2030 years. And they of course, they want to tell you what happened in that 2030 years. And that for your purpose of your Rukia can mean that there is no recitation of the Quran. So the first thing I want to talk about before the session is give it a proper time have in your mind that I'm going to chat to them. Get the important information out and try to ask the questions that are the most pertinent that are the most valuable questions to what you're going to do. Some of the unima benefit this from the Hadith of the Hadith

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of the Tabby, which leads the hadith of ebony abuzz about those who do not seek Rukia

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when the scorpion stung that Tabby, and he said the the other one said to him, what did you do?

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Look at the value of the question. He was stung by a scorpion and the shade he said many people would say this this Oh, what color was it? Was it a big Scorpion or small Scorpion? Really Did it hurt?

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Did the poison go into what happened? Then? What did you do with the scorpion? He's asking questions that have nothing to do with the issue. Look at the tablet, what's he want, he wants the enemy. He wants to ensure he wants the benefit. And he says, What did you do so that I can evaluate and advise you whether you did the right thing or the wrong thing. So ask valuable questions in sha Allah who to either try to give yourself a bit of an idea. Of course, dow is extremely valuable. And you may begin a Rukia session with dow and dow and maybe the only thing you deal with, because at the end of the day, you're calling them to telehealth is critical to their success in their q&a. But we want

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generally not for we want if you extend this period, we want it to be extended because you wanted to extend it not because the shavon wanted to stop you from reciting. Okay. So if you decide to take the full hour or two hours to talk to them about telehealth, that's fine. But make sure that that's your decision, I'll give you a little tip about how to make sure these things are your decision. Try to decide things before the patient comes to you.

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And the only reason I say this is the shaytaan will come to you throughout the Rukia tried to get you to stop or you're too tired, I'll just stop here, what I try to do is I have in my mind before the patient comes at a time when inshallah the shade plan is less close and less likely to afflict me, I have in my mind, I'm going to recite in sha Allah approximately this amount of the Quran, I'm going to take approximately this length of time, just an approximation in your mind. Because if you have in your mind is Sharla I'm intending to recite one third of sorts of Baccarat upon this patient, then try to stick to it. And don't let the shaitaan stop you and say oh, you know, I'm

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really tired. I'll just leave it at the first page. inshallah Next week, we'll carry on. So be aware of that try before the session to focus yourself before you even see the patient. What am I going to ask, what do I need to know another technique for this is to have this the majority of this discussion before the patient even comes to see you get them to write it down in an email, get them to send you a message, a text message, whatever it is, so that you can get the majority of the time that you're with them to be the recitation of the Quran, calling them to the Huck. Yeah, you may talk to them in session, how long have you been suffering, you send some questions by email, they

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get back to you, you then send them some material and you save yourself a whole lot of time. You also save yourself from having to remember everything in one goal. So try if you can to extrapolate some of these discussions and and make them happen by email or by phone. The reason I tell you this is the shape plan is desperate to stop you from the performance of the Rokia and some patients there is no limit to the amount of information that they want to give you. And so you say in general, if it gets too long, Jazakallah hyaluron it's very beneficial. If you could write this down for me in an email, I will inshallah to Allah look at it let's get on with.

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However, there are some things that you do need to focus on before you begin the session.

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Ask about the details. Ask how long they have been suffering. Ask about their, their history. This is just simple, good practice. It's simple, best practice, it's what a doctor would do. It's what anybody in this circumstance would do. Get a bit of history, how long have you been suffering for? What kind of symptoms do you have? Try not to prompt the person overly such that you put words in their mouth? A lot of people do this. So do you see dreams of snakes? I see two snakes, scorpions, scorpions, do you see this? That the other? Did you possibly do this? Did you do this? And they just basically deciding the issue beforehand. Try to you can prompt them from time to time. But when you

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prompt them, try to let them discuss what they're talking about and say what they want. And then ask certain questions. Okay, you mentioned that you have nightmares and you mentioned that your nightmares are like this and this and this. Have you seen such and such a thing in your name, so then you can get more specific. Okay, so how long have you been suffering? When and how did it begin? When and how did it begin? Because you're trying to get a hypothesis in your mind a basic prognosis, something that you can build upon and and sort of adjust as you progress through your relationship with the patient. You may want to talk about yourself, your ground rules, certain

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things you want the patient to do, I want you to do these cards, I want you to do this and this and this, but when you do so, do not overburden the patient. Do not give them more than they can do. I was wishing I will have it a whole lot and the shift

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He was advising people to do that car. And he was only advising people to do a few short at car. And I said shave. One of the sisters asked from the sister side shift. There are many other cars, why haven't you told them this one and this one, she said, Do not burden with people with things that they cannot do to the point where you're asking them, I want you to do 30 minutes of Vicar after fetcher and 30 minutes after modeling. Because on the day when they have work, and they can't spend 30 minutes, they won't do any. But if you give them two minutes to do, they will always do it be in the 90 to Allah and the most beloved deeds to Allah balls that are continuous, even if they are few.

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So you're asking them, you may be telling them some things about yourself, reminding them about to hate and so on and so forth. You ask them about their history, when and how did it begin, you may ask them about their dreams. Dreams are something that it requires a great deal of of care in. Because it's very easy to make mistakes when it comes to dreams. And it's very easy to let the shape Han lead you down a path by the shape on showing certain nightmares and falsehoods in dreams that you interpret in a certain way and you base everything upon them and then you completely end up as a puppet of the shaitaan. And if Allah azza wa jal wills in sha Allah to Allah, I will be in the light

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Allah deliver a seminar on dreams and dream interpretations in sha Allah to Allah, not in terms of how you can be an interpreter of dreams, but the basic principles of Allah sooner well jemar regarding the interpretation of dreams, those of you who speak Arabic You will find on the website of Uppsala, Sweden, in Egypt a set of lectures on by Shahada say it have a law on the principles of Allison Noah, Gemma I regarding interpreting dreams. And this is important, yeah, why it's important that you distinguish between what the soul is telling them, what the soul is instructing them, or what the soul is inclined towards the truthful dreams that are from a larger agenda. And those evil

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dreams that are from the shape on but dreams do play a part and you will develop your knowledge in this in English, you may wish to read the book of Sheikh Mohammed, LG, very happy the whole OTA either on dream interpretation, it is extremely beneficial and it will help you a great deal.

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Ask them if they have any tower. We ask them if they've been to anyone else. This is not to set the record against each other to set the Rockies against each other, that you and me are going to fight each other. I don't go to this brother, you know, and so on and so forth, but simply for you to get an idea about the people they've been. Sometimes I get someone and he says Will you read on me? I say okay, who have you been to? He says, I've been to Abu Ibrahim. So straight away. I want to ask Albert Albert Rahim, what did you do? Why you're not still going to him? Maybe the brother became busy, maybe something transpired. Maybe there was something that a patient couldn't do. Maybe they

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didn't like the advice that we brought him wanted to give them and they didn't want to hear it and they just want to look around for a rock until he gives them something that they want to do. Maybe they'll say oh, I've been to such and such an Imam and you know this Imam is a magician or is someone who's involved in magic. Did he give you anything? Did he give you something to drink something to wear? Or Yes, he gave me Do you still have it? What have you done with it? And so you build up a history with regard to the sisters yet one? fitna to Nisa the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam mentioned the greatest fear or one of the greatest fears that he had come apart. So

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isolation is the fear of women, the fearful you have the fear of women and the first thing to misguide the children of Israel was the fear of women. And as a rock you will soon learn that the majority of cases that you will deal with will be cases involving women in general, for a lot of rock for a lot of the people who perform Rokia.

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And so you must set down your store before you begin. You must set down absolute strict rules. You come with a Macron I can't come with a Muslim Why?

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And my Muslim and he is busy, common is not busy. The Macron will save you from so much evil be eaten Allahu taala The maharam will save you from so many things and so many problems. And one You don't need to stare at the system. You don't need to look her in the eyes. With a long soulful glance just to see whether you think you can see the eye in there whether you think you'd like to marry her as well.

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Are you alone? We might joke about it but will lie how many Rocha we have seen with our own eyes and heard about with our own ears that have gone down this route, Tony to stare at her. For me personally, one of the things that I do is I prefer to read her from behind. So I would ask her to sit in front of me and I will keep more than an arm's distance. Why? Because it stops me getting the urge to go like this from the shape. I know from myself.

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What's the i in sort of juices that will bury NFC, I don't think that I myself on pure, I'm not going to say that I myself are pure and holy and I would never dream, I'm going to take the put the ASVAB, I'm going to put those causes there. So I'm going to say a little bit further than an arm's length so that I'm not going to jump over and I might go through and read in a year at some point. But in the beginning, I'm just gonna set my stall out. I'm not looking at her unless I need to look at her shoe. If something's jumping around, I might look at that place where it's jumping around. But in general, I'm going to keep a general observation without me staring at her. You could ask him

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or her on the matter and say, Look, keep an eye on her. If you see something, let me know. Give me a shout. If I miss something that you're being commanded to lower your gaze. Don't make Rokia the exception to the rule. If you need to look, you need to look but what is needed I want what is the Aurora, the Aurora is eating the meat of a pig.

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Dora is eating the meat of a pig because there's nothing else there to eat, you're gonna die. torula is not pork is cheaper than chicken. So I'm going to buy pork today, Aurora is not slightly a nice fat bacon sandwich with loads of ketchup on there, because I just really want to enjoy the bacon that I'm eating. If you were eating pork, you would eat the minimum that you need to eat and you would almost be disgusted by it to the minimum extent that you had to just to keep yourself alive. This is the Aurora, the Aurora is not okay, sister Sit down. Let me put my hands on you. Let me have a look at you. Don't worry about the hijab. It's not majorly important. This is what we are seeing

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from so many of the requests so many people, if you have female, a female relative like a maharam with you as well, that assists you this is one of the greatest things that the women can do in Rukia. And in general, a woman you know, in general in jihad, Sevilla, we advise that you know, in general, that the women have a different role to play. But one of the major roles that the women have to play in Rukia. And there are some women who are able to do Rokia like men are but in general, with the one of the major roles that women have to play is assisting and supporting, have a sister there to correct that girl's hijab. have a sister there to look after her someone's a Macron

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for you, who is there who's going to sort of look after her and make sure she's okay and keep her covered and keep an eye on you. because trust me, you're not in front of your wife. How can I do anything? If you don't fear Allah azza wa jal, then at a minimum, you're going to see a hearse of Allah. So you know, try your best. It's not always possible, but keep that fear of Allah has been the primary thing, bring her on with her. If you can't bring her around with her because she's a reverse sister. She hasn't got a maharam at all. You know, she doesn't have anyone who can be with her, then at least at least make sure there is no hardware, make sure there's another sister comes

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with her from her side. And try to have someone from your side as well. Why would you have someone from your side to make sure that if there are any accusations of something improper, that there is someone with you who can back you up? It's not common, but it does happen from time to time. Some people have illnesses and diseases in their hearts. And they say this happened. And that happened. And it's useful for you to be able to cut that door for the shape line and see at hamdulillah I have myself a Rukia partner, it's not always possible to have a Rukia partner. But it's nice when you do have one, they remind you of what you forget they correct you if you make a mistake in the Quran,

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they support you, they help you they stay with you. They look after when you want water bringing they bring it for you. And you swap over when your voice is hurting. They'll recite for a bit. It's lovely to have a luckier partner. And it's really useful in times when you've got a new patient you don't know because you don't know what might be accused male or female. It's good to have a rokeya partner with you if you can, it's not always possible. And if it's not possible trust in ally soljet. But this sister who she doesn't have a maharam for whatever reason, then the most the minimum that you need to do is to bring a trustworthy sister with her, not another young girl who

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you might like to marry as well.

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But a reliable sister one of the Auntie's one of the elder sisters, or one of the sisters who's known for her responsibility, and she's known for her fifth in the dean because this is going to keep you further away from falling into sin and from falling into that which is going to ruin your Rukia and ruin your your success in what you're doing. Because Allah azza wa jal is not going to give you tell theater when you are disobeying him in this way. And it gets like a disease it gets worse and worse and worse, until the rocky says I only read on women

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and send me a photo first and I'll tell you if I'm going to read on you or not.

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Well, I'm not telling you something that's never happened yet. While we're lucky I'm not telling you something that's never happened. I'm telling you things that we have heard of that we have seen that we have witnessed that we have read about that we've seen with brothers on Facebook and elsewhere stories from patients. It has got to this stage.

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I want to fear the fitness of women and stick to the limit set by Allah azza wa jal ask them about their prayer. If they're not praying, you have a major issue you need to deal with first. And for me, I divide patients into categories according to the severity of what they're suffering.

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And from the most severe of patients that I consider to be the most deserving of treatment of those who have been told that they're going to die. So those who are being told that they're critically ill and they're going to die, you're going to give them priority. Those who are not praying or not practicing the Diener or because if they die in this state, they die upon other than Islam. So you are not going to put your face as someone who says, Oh, you know, you read Quran, I had a light headache, and otherwise I was fine. And I can read Quran on myself and you have another person who the doctor is given a week to live,

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judging and give priority to those people. Maybe you might want to set out this point, your store with regard to your commitment, and honestly, I advise you actually don't promise them, don't promise them the earth. promise them that you will do the best for them that you can do with the circumstances that are lighter, which gives you because upon a light sometimes turns out the person who will say You promised me that you would be with me until it went and Allah azza wa jal puts a difficulty for you in this. So be careful before you make this commitment, and try to advise people that look what I'm doing for you is I'm making I'm going to do the best that I can for you. I'm

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going to read on you today be even lie to Allah I will continue that for as long as I live. So which gives me the ability but your trust is in our law. And so if Allah azza wa jal does not give me the ability to continue, at least Allah pantalla will put someone in your path who will be able to do that for you.

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Questions linked to the situation, and sometimes these questions can give you a very good idea of what the person is suffering from. You've got a lot of knowledge now about Iran about Syria. Has this been done? Did you go to this person? Was there an amulet Did it have this on it? You can start to ask very pertinent questions to the situation. So I'm going to pass the mic over to our brother Abdul Rahim inshallah to Allah if he has anything to add on that part and to take us through the beginning, the beginning of the recitation and what you're going to do during the session be eaten alive.

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Salaam hamdu Lillah wa salatu salam ala rasulillah. Allah, Allah, he was happy Amanullah

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Okay, so our brother, our beloved brother, Africa, Hola, he's taken us through before.

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So now you are prepared, you are prepared. And now we are getting to the actual session, the actual actual session of Rukia. And really, this is, Pamela, like we've mentioned, really, we're reaching the peak now of this session of our, you know, our conference, this is what it's all boiled down to, and the knowledge that we have sought everything else. This is where your arcada this is where your tawakkol this is where you're everything now is coming together, and you're going to see it now be in the lighter Island. The first thing is during the session,

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you need to go into the session with the correct attitude, you yourself need to go in to the session with the correct attitude. Make.

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Make the hour before you go into this session. humble yourself before Allah subhanho wa Taala make doba make is too far before you go into the session.

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Now, the patient has arrived. And we're in the session now. And as our brothers mentioned, perhaps they have a lot of details that they want to talk to you about. You need to limit this now. You need to be in control of the conversation. You're asking the questions without leaving them on.

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Now, do you want this patient to sit down? Or do you want this patient to lie down?

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Is this patient going to sit down? Or are they going to lie down? And are they going to sit in a place where there is impending danger if this person is possessed and suddenly they jump up? Are they going to hit their head on something sharp? If suddenly they fall back? Are they going to bang their head on something? If suddenly they make a dart for you or a dart for something else? Are you prepared? So make sure that your environment is one which is safe. Make sure that there is a safe environment in which to do the rokeya make sure that it is an environment where you're not going to be constantly disturbed. There shouldn't be children running around. They shouldn't be phones going

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off in the background. They shouldn't be children screaming or people talking over make sure that the environment is one which is conducive to rock. Yeah. This is extremely, extremely important.

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Now with the sisters, I advise

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That the sisters are not made to sit to lie down simply because of, you know, exposing their body etc. is probably better that the sisters are made to sit down. If you do want the sister to lie down, perhaps have a thin blanket or a thin veil that you can throw over the sister so as to preserve the shape of her body. So that covers her. You can't see that again for your protection and also for the protection of the sister from the whisperings of the shouting.

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When the Koran is recited, make sure that you tell the patient make sure that you tell them malam, make sure that you tell your Rukia partner, do not play on your phone, do not talk, do not come in and out of the room needlessly make sure that when the call is recited, that the people are listening. Allah subhanaw taala mentions when the Koran is recited, listen in attentively, in order that you may receive mercy from Allah subhanho wa Taala. How can we expect to have the mercy and GFR from Allah when you're talking over Koran, or you're reciting and that person is playing on their phone, laughing and joking on Whatsapp, Facebook, whatever it might be, make sure that everybody in

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that room is listening to the Koran, make sure that they are listening to the Quran. Now, we can start with those ayat or those surahs the Alberta mentioned, so certified to have. So first, make or seek refuge in Allah subhanaw taala are all below him in a shape on the regime.

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And then the bus mala Bismillah R Rahman r Rahim what we are doing now it is in the name of Allah subhanho wa Taala and then you can start with certain Fatiha start with those surahs which are mentioned in the Sunnah of the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wasallam start with certain Fatiha recite this three times seven times are an odd number. If you want to read more than that,

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then you can focus on ayatul kursi. Focus on it and courtesy recite this as many times as you like again three times five times seven times an odd number of times, then you can recite the last two is of sorts of Bukhara. So you can recite this again, three times five times seven times. And again, yeah, if one, we need to point something out here. For us. If somebody comes and says recite this seven times, don't recite it less than that, we need to say to them bring a proof. Because for somebody to say to you recite something a certain number of times, you need to have an evidence for this. You need to have delille from the Quran and the Sunnah, that you need to that to put a number

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onto something, there needs to be an evidence for this. So I'm just saying recite something an odd number of times. But from experience, if you start reciting 15 1719 times, it's going to become very difficult for you, you're not going to be able to cover all of the different sources. If you're reciting every single 121 times you know, you're going to have a session that lasts you five hours. So this is why we say 357 or more than that, but this is for you to judge as you become more experienced as you gain in knowledge as to what works for you what doesn't work for you. You can tailor your Rukia session to yourself. Every single rock he has his own methodology has his own

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unique way. But again, we focus on the Quran. We mentioned those sutras which the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam mentioned, so we focus on the last two Ayat of Surah Al Baqarah. Then if you wish you can then go to Silla as long as surah Falak Solanas surah ikhlas surah Surah Naas reciting them three times each.

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Now, at this stage, the patient may be sitting there and there's nothing wrong with them whatsoever. Does this mean there's nothing wrong with them? Does this mean there's no say how does this mean there's no jinn or evil I know it does not mean any of them. It does not mean any of that. Sometimes you will resize a little fat to half by the time you get to iaca nabooda ear kind of staring this person is having a fit.

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But sometimes you will have recited everything that we've mentioned and Subhanallah there appears to be no reaction no apparent reaction again yet one This does not mean that there is no gene present, there is no Sahar there is no evil it is extremely important to mention this.

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Now you've recited these things. Now we go on to the second category of the IR that our brother in law he mentioned.

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Those which have a clear purpose.

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So those ayat where Allah subhanho wa Taala mentioned Sam. So for example, in sorts of bacara 100 and second ayah, Surah Taha surah, Yunus surah Allah, all of these are surah Allah subhanho wa Taala mentions saham whatever method to shelter you know item monkey Suleiman, we looked at this is today and we looked at five points of benefit that can be gained from this I will oh here LA and the host Mr. nfo managin. This is about the gym now. So, we've talked about the art of sale. Now let's talk about laws pertaining to the jinn pertaining to the jinn.

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Those Ayah to Allah subhanaw taala you're reminding the jinder Mahal octogenarian insanely Abu dawn, you reminding the jinn now you were created to worship Allah subhanho wa Taala. So those ayat referring to you know, the hate referring to referring to the oneness of Allah referring to the purpose of creation when Allah subhanaw taala challenges mankind and the jinn and soul of man. Yeah, Mashallah Jin, go past go past the boundaries of the heavens and the earth or the boundaries of the heavens, but you're not going to be able to do that. So Allah subhanaw taala challenging now challenging us, this is for us to humble ourselves. But all the while you're a Kuan Yew as a rocky,

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you need to be calm, you need to be composed, you should not be panicking. You should not be outside of your comfort zone visibly. Subhan Allah, why, why if you start panicking, this is what's going to happen. The patient is going to think he doesn't know what he's doing. He is as out of his depth as I am. If you yourself are panicking, and visibly, you're shaking and trembling, etc. The patient is going to lose all trust in you. Imagine you go to the doctor, and you tell the doctor about your illness and the doctor faints. You know, Subhan Allah, are you going to have any trust in this doctor? No. You're going to this man doesn't know what he's talking about. So Subhanallah keep

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yourself calm, keep yourself composed. If there is gym, and the gym sees you panicking, the gym sees you losing composure. The gym knows now, I can scale this one, I can threaten this one, I can intimidate this one. You need to be calm composed. What does this come from your acleda nothing is going to harm me or befall upon me except what Allah has written for me. Nothing is going to benefit me except to Allah has already written for me complete trust reliance in Allah. So be calm, be composed. So you are reciting these ayat now of Sal, you are reciting these ayat now of Sal. And again, there is no real reaction.

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Does this mean that there's no say? No. Does this mean that there's no jinn No. Then you go into the third category, you recite whatever you like. All of the Quran is Shiva. If you want to go back to sort of fight to have Go ahead, if you want to go to those to the as God mentioned by the prophet sallallahu alayhi wasallam. Go ahead, recite whatever you like from the Koran, from the Sunnah, which is authentic from the messenger alayhis salaam. Now, we let's look at some details. Now let's go into some details. Now, you begin reciting, you begin reciting. And immediately this person they begin to fit, they begin to start having fits, they begin to tremble, they begin to sweat, they

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begin to tell you stop reciting, they begin screaming, is this a particular link to say help? Is it a particular link to gin possession on in and of itself? Or is it a particular link to it? Again, now, we have seen that there is a reaction, what do we do? Do we stop now and say what's going on? How do you feel, you know why are you here? No, continue with the recitation. You have seen you have established the first point now, the urn is causing some discomfort, the Quran is causing a reaction now. So what do you do you continue you increase in your recitation of the Quran. Now, you are focusing on the art of Salah you are focusing on the eye art of say how and when you are reciting

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Surah Fatiha, you're reciting as well could see you're reciting the last two of Surah Baqarah there is one reaction, but now you focus on the ayah to see how and Subhanallah when you start focusing on the ayah to see how this person begins to go wild. You notice that the art of see how they are having a different effect to the eye art or the general is mentioned in the Sunnah Subhan Allah now

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We are, as the brother mentioned, we are beginning to form a theory in our mind, I'm reciting these things. When I recite the I had to say how I get a much more pronounced reaction, I get a much more pronounced reaction to things to be wary of now, do not jump to say Hell do not jump to try and diagnose this. Why? Because it may be that the shavon is trying to mislead you, it may be gin possession, and the gin when you are assigned, it increases in its reaction to try and mislead you to send you down the path of say how when it's actually the gin is in love with this person. So be very careful, be careful of the sheltering, trying to mislead you. And the second thing, do not jump

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to a diagnosis, rather continue with your recitation.

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Now, if you've done all of this one, and you've recited for like an hour, and you haven't seen or heard anything, does this mean that there is nothing going on? Does this mean that there's nothing going on? No. What this means is that you need to continue an increase in your recitation of Quran. Sometimes the jinn is present in that person's body, but it's hiding, it's trying its best to try and hide from you. It's doing its best to keep itself concealed. Because if it knows it knows that if it openly comes out then Halas is being caught. There's no way out now. So it tries to hide within this person's body. Some things to look out for, is there any twitching going on, sometimes

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you're reciting. And there's no real reaction, except for a minor twitching of the finger, all you can see is the fingers just moving up and down, or there's a bit of twitching in the shoulders, or in the face or in the neck. When you see this twitching, then grab it. When you see this twitching, then grab it, make sure you're a one that you focus. And you are aware, this is why we said the rocky he needs to be aware, he needs to be aware. But you're at one, when you grab this finger, do not grab this finger and twist it back until it breaks. And your argument is I'm causing harm to the gin. Now Be very careful. If you take a knife and you chop his head off and say I killed the gin

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you've also killed the patient as well. So use pressure or use force within its correct you know within its correct limits. If you take a baseball bat and you start breaking his ribs, when he comes back, he's going to have broken ribs. If you break his arm, when he comes back, you will have broken his arm. So be very careful. Your f one we have these people they go overboard in beating, they go overboard in putting pressure physical pain upon the gym. Just know its limits. As we've mentioned, the backbone, the main core of our treatment is what it is the core of it is the Quran. If this orano sent on a mountain, the mountain would tend to dust if you stood on a mountain with the

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mountain tend to dust know what's more powerful, though caught on by the permission of Allah use this as your core treatment. And these are just things to try and cause a bit of excess you know, like the cherry on top of the cake, shall we say, this is just a little bit on top. It shouldn't be your main thing. Do not pressure or do not be touching up on the sisters again, fear the fitna of the women. If I see that that woman's hand is twitching, I will say to her maharam, grab her hand, and squeeze, grab her finger and squeeze. I don't need to touch I can say to the one who is accompany that this is why he's here. So I don't need to touch. This is why he's here. So I don't

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need to put pressure on say to the man, you do it on my behalf. Okay, this is extremely important. And if you see Subhan Allah, you know, do it lightly. If you do it lightly, and you get it wrong, then no matter. But if I come with a you know, like if I have a fork, and this person's finger is twitching and and I stand the fork in his in his finger, have caused him some pain now Subhan Allah shaytan is going to use that against me. He doesn't know what he's doing this rock, he doesn't know what he's doing, go and find somebody else he doesn't need to hit you. Shaytan is going to use your ammunition against you. Whereas if I grab it lightly, and I squeeze and I don't get a reaction at

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hamdulillah I haven't made myself look like a fool. Okay, so just lightly there's no need for excess pressure. There's no need for access beating

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anything else on this.

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What to do if the gin speaks. Okay, so now we are reciting, and the gin begins to speak.

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It is a woman and a very deep man's voice begins to come out of her mouth. Okay,

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If one when I tell you these things you're probably sitting here thinking so panel line you feel some element of fear. When you're in this situation what law Allah gives you this Delphic you feel no fear whatsoever. You will not I promise you, when you're in this situation, you're immersed in it, you feel no fear whatsoever. So many people who've accompanied me, Luca, we've got the brother started in Roca, when you say these types of things, they say Subhan Allah, you know, when you're explaining it, I felt a bit scared. But when I was in that situation, Allah subhanaw taala just guides you you're Mujahid. feasable Allah, Allah subhanaw taala will show you a way out, you don't

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feel an ounce of fear, you will not feel an ounce of fear, I promise you and if you begin to feel some fear, just controlling, couldn't let the half in nucca until Allah we said to Moosa, do not fear you are going to be victorious. You have the Quran, you have a man, you have no heat, you have reliance in Allah subhanaw taala. So the first thing do not become scared or do not panic, do not stop your recitation of the Quran. If the gene speaks, and the first thing that you do is Oh my god, what's going on? Then the gym knows the gym knows now, this is what I'm going to get him by. Every time he recites and you know, he, I feel some pain. I just got to speak and he's gonna get scared.

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No, whatever you do, do not stop the recitation. There may be external gym. Perhaps cushions are moving themselves around the room whilst you're reciting. Perhaps the door is banging whilst you are reciting the last thing that you should do in this situation yet one is stumped. Continue with the recitation.

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Make sure that the person is safe the person is sound. What should you do in this situation? Now the gin is speaking, like our brother has mentioned, the main thing that gin will do anything they say Don will do anything to stop you from reciting. So please do not get involved in long drawn out conversations with the gin. Do not get involved. Make this one of your principles. I will not get involved in long, you know conversations with the jinn except with one purpose which is to leave this person's body. Leave this slave of Allah, you are oppressing him fear Allah, if you don't leave, we are going to kill you. Keep your statements short and snappy. And don't get involved in

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long conversations. Because what are you doing when you're speaking? What are you not doing? You're not reciting? So when you're not reciting, what are you doing, you're allowing your enemy time to recover. Imagine you're in a boxing match. And you've given this guy a haymaker and he's completely dazed. What are you gonna do now? How are you feeling? mate? You're okay, did you feel you know, you're gonna keep beating him and beating him and beating him. And you're going to beat him until he's down and out. The same thing with the shape on once you've gotten to the situation where it's trying to hide in his body, but you've burnt it with God and he can't hide anymore. You've caught it

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moving through his body, you've pressed that part of the body you've caught it now in his neck, you've caught it in his finger and it starts to speed now leave me alone Please don't kill me etc, etc. are you now going to give it respites? Are you going to give it the chance? No. You order it you say Look, I don't want to oppress you I'm warning you. If you do not leave. We are going to kill you by the permission of Allah we expect reward from Allah. Allah says for God's you know, Alia shaytaan you are from the Olia of shavon because you are pressing him You are causing harm to him. You are trying to mislead him. You are trying to kill him. Allah subhanaw taala will reward me

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Yokoyama. I'm not afraid to kill you but isn't ilahi to Allah. Don't spend ages talking about Illuminati talking about the Freemasons talking about a police talking about the the you know, all of these different things. If one I promise you, if you started right now, you could keep talking to this gym until budget time, and it wouldn't stop. Why? Because while you're talking, you're not reciting. Do not take anything that that Jim tells you as the truth. rather take it with a huge pinch of salt. If it agrees with the Quran and the Sunnah, we agree with it. But if it's something that is not mentioned, we do not affirm it, nor do we deny it. Okay, but you don't you shouldn't be

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getting involved in this level of depth of conversation. Don't ask them tell me what are your What are your different tribes? What are your different clans, etc, etc. I'll mention to you there's a video on YouTube. And this brother has put the video up and it said the grandson of a police, the grandson of a police possesses this man and the video all he has done is lots of speaking to the gin and the gin says I'm a Muslim. I'm this I'm that I'm the police's grandson. I've possessed him. This is my name, blah blah blah. That brother came to visit.

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May we began reciting the virgin began to speak. I said, You're thick. Did you think that we would think that you are the Elise's grandson, he said, yeah, that boy is easy to fall. Referring to the other rock, he just takes everything. Just speak, speak, speak at one, do not engage in excess conversation with the jinn, you need to command the Jin to leave, command the Jin to leave the body, leave his body. Why are you here? What do you want with him leave his body. And if it's a Muslim, then you tell them to fear Allah. And if it's a non Muslim, you tell them to fear Allah, you remind them that they were not created without purpose again enjoining the good forbidding the evil, but to

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a limit, do not think that you are the Zakir Naik of the Muslim world do not take it upon you to give that power to the non to that to the jinn. Because honestly, if one you will misguide yourself, you cannot see them. This is something of the unseen. So we only say what we need to and we don't go further than that leave his body or I will kill you but isn't allow you to highlight whatever you do, yeah, Juan, do not ever make a pact with the jinn Do not ever seek assistance from the jinn never call upon the jinn never call upon the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam or any other pious people anything like this, again, comes back to our al Qaeda. He says to you, and he offered our

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Brother Mohammed hafeez. Allah, I will give you women and I will give you well, and we were this upon Allah, they will say anything and everything.

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But Subhana Allah, as our brother did have Allah He reminded him what what is with Allah is better. What Allah can give me is better I do not one, what you think you can give me rather everything is from Allah subhanho wa Taala. Some other things that the jinn might do, he might begin to threaten you. I know where you live, I'm coming for you. If you don't stop reciting I'm going to kill you. I'm going to kill your children. I'm going to kill your wife. I know about you. I know your secrets, everything. The threats are endless. You will hear all manner of threats. I'm going to do this, I'm going to do that I'm going to do this again. No worries don't carry on. And you just carry on with

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your recitation. Don't take any notice of them whatsoever. Why are they threatening you? Again, what's the aim and the objective is that you stop the road can never become scared. Always is one remember this principle. When I go into our local session, what Allah has written for me is going to happen. What Allah has written, and it's not going to reach me is not going to happen. Everything is written by Allah subhanaw taala. So this gene says, today, I'm going to harm you, I'm going to do this, you say no problem, you do what you can, you will not be able to do anything except what Allah subhanaw taala allows you to do.

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Now, sometimes you may want to ask the Djinn Why are you there? Will you but don't ask this at the beginning, you know, sometimes you will get to such a situation you have recited and you have burned the burn the gin and the gin is in a desperate situation. And so the jinn will tell you I'm here through Sahar I'm here because I love him, etc. Again, do we take this as fact? No. We, if the gin wants to tell you then just accept it. But don't take this as fact. Now, this is the truth. And you tell the person afterwards you have magic you have this the magic is in such in such a location such and such a location. And the person says How did you know it's all because the gentleman spent on La

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How did you seek clarification of this? Allah says if an evildoer comes to you seek clarification of that which he says if he comes to you with some news, seek clarification. We cannot seek clarification so we need to affirm it nor do we deny it with regards to touching the sisters I want our Brother Mohammed happy the whole lot to to mention this in a bit more detail in Sharla

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Bismillah Alhamdulillah wa salatu salam ala rasulillah

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some of the Roca.

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They are very free when it comes to touching women as you mentioned.

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And the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said for an iron nail to be driven through your skull is better for you than for you to touch a woman was not permissible for you to touch eyes. He said all along it was

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for an iron nail to be driven through your skull is better for you than this. Some of the Rockies they will turn around and they will say actually, Mohamed you've made a mistake in this because this is borroloola

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what do we say to them? We say to them, yeah, Fedora is eating pork. This is thorough, meaning you do it to the minimum that you need to do to live.

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So bearing in mind this issue of

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Tara, and necessity, when would we or when might we consider?

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Or when might we need to? Or might it be a necessity for us to touch a woman in Rokia?

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I have three situations, or three broad circumstances in which you would consider it to be a necessity for you to touch a woman in Rokia. But there is a supplementary point to make on this. And that is that if there is a man from there that can do it, you never need to. If there is a map from there that can do it. You never ever, ever need to. But we are talking about three circumstances when there is no maharam or the Muharram is unable and that has happened. Sometimes the gene is incredibly strong, and the maharam is just being thrown against the wall.

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You may at that point need to make a judgment call. And I will before I mentioned these three conditions, I will mention to you again, every time every time this happens to me, I sit with my Rukia partner and I say to him, advise me, Al Karim, did I go too far? Did I touch her when I didn't need to? And we have a discussion afterwards, where we evaluate whether or not this was necessary, and whether or not we need to change our practice. Could we have avoided it? For example, sometimes in the way that you have the woman sit, you could have avoided her getting up and punching her maharam in the face. For example, you could have stood in a way to block her that you didn't need to

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touch her. So two preconditions one is that when the Muharram is there, you never ever, ever need to touch the woman.

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There's never a necessity, how can there be a necessity when there's someone stood next to you that you're going just going to buy pork? Because it's two pound cheaper than chicken? That's all you're doing.

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Secondly, always, always take yourself to account if you did something that was Haram in the religion, because it was a necessity. Take yourself to account ask yourself, evaluate yourself afterwards, could I have avoided this? Is there something I could have done?

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What are the three conditions or the three situations, two of them are very easy, and one of them is a bit of a gray area. And it requires a bit of fabric and a bit of knowledge.

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Regarding the two that are easy, the most important reason why you would touch a woman who is not your maharana in Rukia, is if she tries to self harm. I'm not talking about just starting to scratch herself. She runs for the kitchen knife and she goes to stop herself. She grabs something and she goes to choke herself to the point where you see that she's unable to breathe and her face is going blue. In this case, do not hesitate. If the Macron can deal with it, get involved get hold of the maximum get him to do if he can't do it, you get involved in you take a hand away so that she can't harm herself. The second circumstance, if she runs at you and she tries to attack you, this is

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necessity. She comes at you and she starts to put her hands on you on her on your neck as she starts to throttle you doesn't happen very often. But when it does happen, you're not going to stay there and say or subpanel I can't touch you. You're not my Mom, please continue to strangle me. You can take off to the extent that it's necessary if when you're eating pork, to the extent that it is necessary. Okay, the pork thing helps because none of you would sit there just chewing away on a bacon sandwich yet you understand what necessity is? She attacks you. You restrain her comfortably? It's so so important. Yeah, one brothers and sisters, when you are dealing with a patient go and

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speak out we have a brother with us and Mashallah lots of Article other brother has some experience in, shall we say fighting and such these kinds of things. And he's benefited me a great deal in how to safely restrain somebody, keep the person safe. Don't let them choke on their own tongue. Don't let them you know, hurt themselves, they start punching themselves in the face. You don't use a pallet the way you hold somebody. And I'm not an expert in this. But someone with very little strength can restrain somebody very effectively. The brother advises, for example, that you control the joints and you keep a bit of pressure on the person's shoulder saw that they're not able to

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move, their whole arm is immobilized. It's comfortable for them and it's safe. You're not twisting their arm behind their back to the point that they can't move. You're simply keeping them comfortable and safe. One time there was a situation like this. There was a patient she's a sister, and she's very, very violent during the Rukia. And what happened was me and the brother we got into a bit of a disagreement my rokeya partner over whether we should touch her or not

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He said no leave her until she becomes violent and then touch her. And I said, I think you should restrain her from the beginning. And what happened was upon a law that this sister went so crazy and so physical and started to attack herself and others, that she had to be wrestled to the ground. Now, if you imagine wrestling, this sister to the ground involves touching her considerably to wrestle someone to the ground. Now, you could have avoided that by simply keeping a little bit of pressure on her shoulder, by maybe immobilizing her arm or even simply by not touching her at all, and keeping her in a seat where she can't move. So these are things that you know, you need to be

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aware of. If the sister attacks you, you may need to touch her to the extent that is necessary, not beyond that. Always, always, always err on the side of caution. But there is a time when sometimes you can be too cautious. Like in the example where we both refrained from it, we knew she was extremely violent, we both refrain from it, and then she hurt herself quite badly, being restrained onto the floor. Because we didn't take the lighter or the lesser of the two evils and restrain her lightly to begin with the way that you touch

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upon Allah, you don't have to touch her in intimate parts. And this happens on some of the Rocha. You simply if you want to keep her in one place, you might just simply put some pressure on her shoulder. Again, I'm not an expert in this, but some brothers have shown me some techniques that are for brothers and sisters that are nice, comfortable ways you can keep the person restrained in a comfortable, safe way. You're trying to help them not to harm them. Yeah, once you keep them nice and comfortable. So those two situations our primary example she self harm, she starts to punch yourself in the face, she runs for the kitchen knife, or she

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begins to harm you and to attack people around you. Again, leave it for them. The Muharram deals with no problem, bring two Muslims next time bring three next time make sure the kitchen knives are locked away next time, you may avoid yourself doing it. But there may be circumstances where coddle Allah Masha as you put yourself in a situation and you got stuck. And you had to do it to the minimum extent necessary. So think about where you're touching. You don't have to touch your bare skin, you could touch over her eye buyer in a way that's a bit more closer to the to the limits or you're getting you know, you're trying to fear Allah. The third circumstance. And this is the tricky

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one and the gray area. And this is the one that I advise you to fear a lot in until you develop a great deal of experience and knowledge in this field. There may be times when you genuinely believe that you need to touch her in order or that there is a considerable benefit to her in you touching her in performing her cure. This is a rare circumstance, you can read the Quran, it's enough for you. But you may see the jinn develop in one place and come up like a lump. And you feel that if you were to put pressure on that, then you will be able to significantly increase her cure or to make a cure significantly quicker. The example of this and the mesh I have given this as a fatwa from the

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legend and from other than those of those of them are shy is that your example is the example of a doctor when you need to do something you have the permissibility to do it, but do not take that as a license. So many people say why have you got hold of a well, it's important for her cure. It's not you can recite the Quran, there may be a one in 1000 time when you genuinely in your heart of hearts, you genuinely believe that you need to touch this sister and the maharam is not there. There's another sister with her mom's trying. What if you this is almost a theoretical situation rather than a practical one. It never almost never happens. But there may be and you mentioned the

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factor of the LMR that you're the example of a doctor and if you need to do something to bring about someone's cure you need to do it but you fear Aline disregard how many sisters upon have come to us and I know we Brahim is the same and said I've come to you because I used to go to so and so and he used to touch me and sometimes you shine you say sister explain what you mean us to touch us to grab your arm to stop you hitting yourself used to touch me intimately and used to say the gin is in your private parts of the gin is here the gin is there and I'm following the gin around the body and I'm just like a doctor.

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If your GP did this to you, what would the GP happened to the GP panela fear Allah with regard to the women.

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Very very, very important point. One keep the Maharaja awake do not allow halwa to develop. Kala is when you and a woman are alone. Why would you not want Hollywood to develop the prophets lie Selim said no man and woman are alone together except the third of them is who shape on do you want any more shelter in there in European session you've already got plenty to deal with as it is

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So don't allow the shaytaan to be a third, keep yourself in a situation where you're controlled. And as I said, you may touch a woman one time, because of a need and a necessity. And later on, you may say I can put practices in place that will stop this happening again, maybe I can keep her a little comfortable. Maybe I can invite a second Macron keep the Muharram awake. If the Mohan doors is off, give him a bit of rockier water in the face. keep them awake. Yeah, in all seriousness, keep them awake to nudge him bro happy we don't go to sleep because the Maha maybe, maybe has a weakness. Maybe the shaytaan looks to affect him. Because the shaper knows if you're upon the sooner he knows

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if he gets the maximum you're gonna leave. So he may try to attack the Maharaja. And then you need to keep them awake and at all times, you need to keep the patient safe, uncomfortable. Yeah, one safe, uncomfortable. Be professional about it. You know, think about this in terms of a hospital in terms of a doctor, keep the patient safe and comfortable. Don't allow them to hurt themselves. Don't allow them to chalk on their own tongue. Don't allow them to hurt others. Be sensible, be professional, if you can get some knowledge from the alarm of the dounia the knowledge of the dounia that will help in terms of safe restraining in terms of we call it jujitsu

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in terms of safe restraining in terms of medical treatment to keep someone safe how to put someone in recovery position, how to make sure someone's airway isn't being blocked by their tongue, these kinds of things, it's a beneficial knowledge that you can learn. And you can implement your Rukia to make sure your patients are safe and comfortable at all times.

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For the last I guess, viewpoints in Sharla huhtala, what I'm going to do is hand it over to our brother Abdul Rahim Allah father, to inshallah conclude on this session. And maybe also talk a little bit about what you do after the session and how you bring it to a close. In general, all are mentioned and bringing it to a clause is, in general 1015 minutes, a person usually needs to be observed at the end of the rokeya to ensure that they are okay with themselves and that they are sort of comfortable. And that's probably something that you should bear in mind, when you've come to a conclusion you've finished, what you've already decided before that you are going to recite, and

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you will come up with the conclusion, you bring it to a conclusion, you stop it there. And you're going to observe the person for a short period of time, perhaps 1015 minutes to make sure that they are okay, that they're healthy, that the genius has let go of them. And that they're going to you're going to be able to take them away safely. Be careful if they're driving themselves home, you may want to make that considerably longer time, if they're driving themselves won't be so so careful that you don't put the person in a state where they're going to harm themselves. So inshallah to talk about some more points and maybe how to conclude the Rukia session. And I guess maybe a little

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bit about what we do when the gin or how do we know when the gin leaves or what happened when the genies I'm going to hand it over to Alvarado or other Ibrahim having a long time.

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Okay, on during the Rukia session,

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you may want to spray some water on the patient, you may find that spraying the water on the patient is extremely beneficial and Subhanallah

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It's just water. Okay, it's just water but Subhan Allah once has been recited over and in Allah subhanho wa Taala you know, during the use of blessings of Allah, sometimes it has a major effect on the shape on it burns them the way acid would burn us. It burns them the way acid burners and this is what we would call, let's say an alternative, or an additional therapy, we'll talk about this slightly later in Sharla. Now, whilst you are reciting, if this person begins to feel extremely sick or the person their stomach becomes very, very bloated.

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Then now we are getting into a few of the signs Now perhaps this is the hub, perhaps they have eaten something. So from your initial questions you will say tell me how is your digestive system? Do you get an extremely bad stomach? Do you find you know you have irritable bowel syndrome or thermos things like this? These are some of the questions that you'll be able to develop as you gain more knowledge. And the person will say yeah, I've got I've I always have a really really bad stomach. Anything that I eat goes straight through me I've had all of the the tests and all of the trials in front of the doctors, nothing seems to be coming back. So now you're beginning again to develop a

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bit of a theory not be firm on a theory. Always be ready. As our brother has told us always be ready to correct yourself. I initially I thought this, we know what I'm going to go back. So the person now that you are reciting, they're feeling really really sick. Really they have a really bad stomach and they feel like they want to vomit. Again, part of the lochia make sure you have

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Have a bag or a bin or a bucket, something that they can vomit into, if needs be something that is available, otherwise they're going to be vomiting on your carpet or on their carpet or on your clothes or on their clothes. So have preparation have something ready there that they can vomit into, if needs be. Sometimes when they say how it is in the stomach, then Subhanallah you may find that when that person is reciting, they feel like vomiting. But they don't. They're not that something is stopping them. They really feel like they're on the verge of vomiting, but they just can't get it out. Again, we will look at those things which insha Allah in the light Allah those

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additional, you know, those bits, add ons Herbes medicines, which will inshallah facilitate this facilities. Where should you do that? Okay. Should you do the Rokia in the masjid? Should you do the ruca outside in the park or in the graveyard? Should you do the Roca in your own home?

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The first thing you want is the best place to do the Rokia is in the masjid, the best place to do the rokeya is in the house of Allah subhanho wa Taala where there are Muslims from amongst the people, Muslims from amongst the jinn, insha Allah, there are angels, this is the best place, this is the best place and the place that you do the Rukia it seems to have an effect on the effectiveness of the Rokia. So the Rukia, which is performed in Medina is not like the Rukia, which is performed in Birmingham. completely different. It's just the place yet if wonder Baraka which Allah subhanaw taala has placed in that land is not like the Baraka or the lack of it that we have

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here. So the place it does influence the effectiveness of the Rukia by the permission of Allah subhanaw taala. You also, as you start doing rocky on people, you're going to need to be aware, are you going to be traveling out to them, in this case, take into consideration how long you're going to spend traveling there, how long you're going to spend talking how long you're going to spend reciting, and then to go back as well. What you don't want to do is your Rukia it causes you to split from your own life. You need to think about your own life as well. You need to think about your own lifestyle as well. Your family, it has rights over you, your body, it has rights over you,

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your friends, they have rights over you, Allah subhanaw taala this Deen has rights over you give everything its rights, give everything it's do right. Yeah. So are you then going to be somebody who travels out? How far are you willing to travel? How much money are you willing to spend to get to a place? What will you then do? Etc, etc. We need to look at this, this is something that you yourself, you need to understand. Now me personally, I do Roca in my own home, this is due to obviously working nine to five and then obviously I can't I don't have the time to go out and visit people, etc, etc. So I call the people I invite them into my own home, things you need to be aware

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of now. Number one, you're going to have to give your address out to people are you prepared to do this? And there may be people who visit you they're not possessed, they don't have jinn they are mentally deranged. Do you want this person to have your address something to think about but put your trust in Allah subhanho wa Taala you are doing this for his sake and his sake alone, Allah Jalla wa ala he will protect you, your home is going to be a place where you are regularly encountering jinn okay? Which means that especially your home, you need to make sure that you take precautions to protect your home. When the gym COMM The gym, there might be a gym in this person's

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body. There may be gym around this person as well. Okay, which are there to enforce the contract to make sure that this gym doesn't leave. You're gonna need to make sure that your family are aware of this. Make sure that your family, your children, they are protected, even more so than if you were doing it elsewhere. Are you going to go into somebody else's home? Are you going to go into somebody else's home and to do the Rokia there, again you want all of these things you need to understand you need to take these things into consideration. If you're doing it in the masjid, you must ask permission from the masjid. Okay, the last thing that the you know that the people who add the

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madrasa the children, the last thing they want is a person screaming and roaring and running around and you're wrestling them and they're trying to learn about you know the Arabic alphabet soup panel. So ask permission from your local Masjid. And of course, if it's a Masjid upon tawheed and suddenly

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Then you should be doing it there. Do not go to a little bit and say can we use your mustard? There's probably even more Shelton in that machine than there are in your, you know, in your local cases. So go to the places of dough head go to those places of Sunnah.

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Okay, now, how do we decide when to end our situation, when to end our session? Our Brother Mohammed hospitalised mentioned

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you've gone in. And you've said right, I'm going to resign a third of sorts of Bukhara I'm going to resign all the way out of sale. Now, I want to add something to our brother has mentioned. What happens if you've recited this And towards the end of your your your recitation, the gin comes up now? Do you then say Salaam Alaikum, I've recited what I wanted and obsession? No, you're going to have to add to that now. You've done an hour and a half of recitation, you've reached a peak after one and a half hours of burning with God on the gin is finally surface. Now is our opportunity. Do we just end it there? Or do we continue? Continue? Yeah. But you need to know when to stop, you need

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to know when to stop. Because if you're reciting for 15 hours straight, again, you're not going to want to come back to this person, this person is going to find it physically draining. Again, so many factors that we need to think about so many things that we need to consider.

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Okay, first and foremost. Now, what about if the gin leaves as a result of your recitation by the grace and permission of Allah, some things to look out for some things to look out for the gin is going to want to leave from a particular part of the body. So it may want to leave through a finger, it may want to leave through a foot, it may want to leave through the throat, don't let it live through the throat, please, because it may cause damage to the throat. If it leaves to the finger, or the arm or the leg Hamdulillah, you know, these things will recover. But we don't want to cause lasting damage to the person's throat. So if this thing is saying I want to leave, I want to leave

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and the person's mouth is beginning to open up, I advise you, you say Look, don't leave through his throat because you're going to cause him problems. And then I'm going to cause you problems, leave through his hand, leave through his foot, whatever it may be, what you will then find is the foot on say we'll talk from the hand, you say leave through his left hand, okay, the left hand will probably start vibrating, start shaking or start lifting up will start stretching, stretching, stretching, stretching, and the person will really go into this is like an exceptional circumstance. Now, you're going to know that things are not right, the hand is shaking, vibrating is going up, it's going up,

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it's going up, perhaps the person's body is lifting up into the air, like what we may have seen in the movies, stuff that a lot, what we may have seen into the movies, you know, you may have seen in the movies, the body is lifting up lifting up these things, you may see these things, you may see these things, or maybe the leg is lifting up vibrating very high, the person isn't normally this flexible, but the leg is going so high up into the air. And maybe the person gets lifted off the ground from the leg, all of these things, and then suddenly, bang, nothing. So there is a huge amount of commotion, there's a lot of things going on, and then suddenly finished, then the hand

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drops, the leg drops, the the the foot drops, whatever it might be.

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This Now usually it is assigned that the gin may have left. But it may also be assigned that the gin is trying to fool you. It's fooling you into vibrating their hands, etc, etc, etc. And it's fooling you Yeah, I'm going, I'm going, I'm going, I'm going suddenly it stops. And the dinging has just gone and hid in the back of his leg. And you say Hamdulillah, you call the person back, and the rocker and hollers and the genies hiding in his still is within his leg. So continue with your recitation, even after this type of thing happens, and the person seems to wake up, and it seems to be this person, continue with your recitation for another 1015 minutes just to drill it home, just

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to drill it home. So be aware that this may be that the gin has actually left. But at the same time, it may be that the gin is trying to fool you. Okay, the gene hasn't left. Now, I've recited for an hour and a half, two hours, three hours, and I want to bring an end to this session. This is something that I do perhaps our Brother Mohammed will add or improve on what I do, what I do is I spray the first I made the other I make a call the other one in the air, I spray water on their face, and I call them by their name, you call them back by their name and Alhamdulillah the person will wake up and you know they will they will wake up and they will feel really really tired and

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butt handed another person comes back. So you just call them by their name, give them a spray of some water splashed some water on them. inshallah we'll see this in our session later on, splash some water on them, call them by their name and handle another person will come back now, but they usually come back

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I've had one case where the person they, they seemed to come back and I had some water that I'd recited on and it was a sister. I said, hey, go sister Have some water. And it was actually the gin and the gin came and splashed all over my face and drenched me. So I thought it was the gin the system but it wasn't it was actually the gym. But the vast majority of cases, it will be the person they come back, give them some space. Now, they are going to feel like they have been beaten up. They are going to feel battered and bruised. It's extremely physically draining. Rokia is physically draining on you as Araki through your recitation. And it's also physically draining on the patient.

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They feel like they have been involved in a fight. And many times, they say, you know, I feel like I've been beaten up minus the bruises. So give them some space now. Don't Don't jump on them, how you feeling how you feeling everything good. Give them some space, give them some time to relax, to come back, give them a drink of water. Just give them some space to just relax. Tell them to relax. Now say you Okay, just relax. Give them a couple of minutes to relax, you take a break, you relax, you take some water, relax your voice, etc. and just relax now. Now, the first thing that they're going to say is what's wrong with me? Am I cute? Yeah, one, in my opinion, that one of the greatest

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errors of the Roca is that we are quick to diagnose. And we are ashamed to say Allah knows best. We are ashamed to say, Look, I'm not quite sure. But you need modaco I'm not quite sure. But you should continue with your okiya there is no harm in saying this. Because you know that the Rukia has had an effect by the permission of Allah, you don't need to pinpoint it is Sahar, and it was done on this day, and it's done by this person. And it's this type of Sahar, is this type of gene, this type of effect? No, you know, that this person is suffering. And you know, whether the Shiva it lies within the Quran. So don't be afraid to say to the person, look, I'm not sure. I don't want to say, because

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if you say it's evil eye, and it's actually gin possession, you're going to cause a lot of harm. If you say it's a gin possession, and it's evil eye, you're going to cause a lot of damage. If you say it's magic, and if not, then imagine what the shaytaan is now going to whisper to this person, you are possessed, you're you've got problems, you've got magic on you. And the person doesn't have magic they have evil eye. So do not be afraid to just say, you know, just relax. I don't know. But come for another session. Hey, awesome Ayat of rokeya go away and perform the Rukia upon yourself. Important point now at one, one of the things that we fail to do, I apologize if you're going to

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mention this. But one of the things that we fail to do is we say Alhamdulillah you're cured, and the person stops Rokia. hamdulillah there's nothing wrong and the person stops rockin. It's like, and I liken it to weeding. If you pull out the weeds, you can pull out the top. But if the root is still there, then eventually it's going to come back. It's going to regrow. We're dealing with a case now, four years ago, the brother had rocker four years ago, he had Rokia he thought that he had been cured. And now four years later, he is suffering much worse and the gene has come back because they didn't increase what's wrong. If the gene leaves, if the gene leaves and you're certain that the

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gene has left, the person feels renewed, they feel cured, a feel wonderful by the permission of Allah, what's wrong with you saying, you know what, as a precautionary measure, I want you to do one more month of South Africa. As a proposed precautionary measure, measure. I want you to go and have cupping as a precautionary method measure, continue on with yourself. Okay, it's better to do too much. Although you can't do too much recitation, of course. But it's better to do a lot of recitation of Quran than it is to do too little and allow the problem to come back. So I always encourage them post rokeya session, put your trust in Allah do not associate any success with me go

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away and this shouldn't be the only rokeya that you have never ever make your rokeya the only look at your patient has because they should be supplementing your rokeya rather the other way round, sorry, they should be supplementing their Rokia which is 80% with your okay. So you are just taking and you're just giving them a bit of momentum, you're giving them a bit of a push, rather, the main impetus should come from themselves and Allah subhanaw taala knows best

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couple of points just to finish this session off Charlevoix to either one is a skill that you will need to develop

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and I don't think you ever did.

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develop it completely. But it's a skill that is useful to develop, and you should endeavor to try to practice it, which is to recognize when the gene has control of someone, and when they come back to themselves. And I think this is something that you will learn over time. And it's something that you won't always get right. There will be times, like algebra he mentioned, when you don't get it right, and you think the person's come back to themselves. But in general, look at the eyes, look at the face, look at generally the person's demeanor, and just started to get everyone's different, but just get those telltale signs from the individual that the person's come back. They've the genes,

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let go of them. And bear in mind that you're in one please bear this in mind. That Rukia is peaks and troughs, in the sense that the jinn will come and scream and kick and shout and swear and spit.

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Gone.

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Don't stop and say, oh, Jin's gone hamdullah. Keep on going. The gym comes back again, it's another peek kicking, screaming, spitting swearing, down again, person goes to sleep. If you can try to keep the person fairly awake, keep them fairly conscious, okay. So you can have some smelling salts and have some red misc like I'm going to talk about in a moment, some perfume or something that just makes them come back to themselves. keep them awake, if you can, even when the gin is there. But there's times when there'll be dead to the world. One of the cases I had Subhanallah is one of the hardest cases to deal with. It's very easy took a very short amount of time before they left. It was

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a very short amount of time, but the person just went dead. I actually thought I killed them. I actually honestly genuinely thought that I had killed them. I said to the man, please check. She's breathing. He said she's breathing that we poured water on her. She didn't react not even move a bit. The maharam slapped her hands, she didn't react, he pinched her she didn't react completely dead to the world except that her heart was beating.

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And in the end, all you have to do is to make to add to continue reading to be patient. And overtime she recovered, analyze the journals best what happened, some suggested that perhaps the gin was knocked out in a situation where he was still in control of the body. So she became neither sort of like the gene or the person and Allah Subhana Allah knows best. This is just a hypothesis and an idea. And at the end of the day, the knowledge is with a lot as a widget. But the reality is that you it's useful to recognize the to, to watch when the person comes back to themselves. Because sometimes, especially when you're spraying someone in the face with water, and they come back to

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themselves, and they often don't appreciate

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it, you know, when you're spraying spraying spraying and they say it's mean. So don't guarantee don't rely upon it because you'll get it wrong, but at the same time, just be situationally aware. Also just a reminder, just when we talked about the world of the jinn and we said the jinn are different types. The gene are different types and they react in some ways to different supplementary things. Some will react more to water than others. Depending on the circumstance, the person, don't take it as a hard and fast thing. If water didn't work on the first session that it will work on the second Be prepared to use it be prepared to change in shallow water either and be eaten Illa he has

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our gel, you will develop your experience and develop your skill. Be calm and be relaxed about it and inshallah tada things will work out for you in the right way. Okay, we have 25 minutes left. And we have two major modules we had we have three but the third is a conclusion. And we can leave that until the Rukia case in Sharla. But we have questions and we also have, we have questions and we also have

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two modules to finish. So I'm just going to dive straight into a very, very quick module on prophetic and herbal medicine in Rokia.

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Some of the people may say, if you're reciting the Quran, why do you need anything else? Answer is you don't need anything else. But that there is knowledge in general medicine, the medicine of the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, and the knowledge of medicine that will last the panel what Allah has given some of us that may be of use to you in helping to facilitate the Rokia. It's not a replacement for the Rukia please yeah, I have one. Understand this herbal medicine. prophetic medicine is absolutely not a replacement for Rukia. It is an aid for Rokia. It's a supplementary use that you can benefit from that you can help potentially if you get it right to get the gentle leave

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a lot more quickly. Why? Because the prophets lie Selim made it clear that every illness has a cure. When the cure when the cure matches the illness when the cure meets

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The illness exactly the person is cured by the permission of Allah subhanho wa Taala. So a gene that is residing in the stomach that is causing someone a great deal of problem, you may be able to give someone some herbal medicine that will help them to vomit. And that may enable them to more quickly progress through the stages. This is not something you need, if you don't understand it, you don't need it. It's just a supplementary aid that you can use. And there are some brothers who are incredibly gifted in this field. Some had a lot, some brothers who have a great deal of knowledge about herbal medicine and the medicine of the Prophet slice lm. And this of course, is something

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that will pay him Rahim Allah talks about in detail.

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Of course, one of the things we want to talk about before we talk about this is to mention the Hadith of the prophets lie Selim. Treat your sick with sadaqa. So one of the supplementary things that you can do is to encourage the family to give sadaqa and this will help to purify yourself when you are not the recipient of the sidecar by encouraging them to give this other car to why don't you give it to some orphans? Why don't you give it to the poor? Why don't you give it Southern Nigeria, give it to the local Masjid if the masjid has given you the permission to use the whole say, look, you know what it is, I don't charge for my Rukia. But you know, Subhana Allah, why don't you just

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pop something as much or as little as you like in the box of the master to help them pay for the electricity, and so on and so forth. This will help to purify your intention, because you've confirmed that you're not getting any gain out of it. And also, it will help to cure that sick cure, you're sick with sadhaka. Okay, so there are supplementary things that you can do. Now we're going to cover a great number of things that I'm going to mention them in a in a limited amount of detail. I'm not going to give you too much in terms of prescriptions and amounts. Please be careful, please, please be careful. Yeah, one, there is herbal medicine that can cause people a great deal of harm.

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If you don't know what you're doing, don't use it, you don't need it. But once you develop a degree of understanding, you can help yourself with supplementary aids, supplementary aids for okiya. We said one of the supplementary aids for rokeya is physical pressure, not beating severely but physical pressure following the jinn around in the body when it's permissible to do so IE when it doesn't involve the women.

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You can follow the jinn around in the body and this is something that should hold Islam even taymiyah was extremely was extremely keen to recommend to do to put gentle pressure to make it difficult for the jinn to reside in one place to make it difficult for the jinn to move around freely around the body to keep on this can be in the form of a gentle massage form of light pressure on the place. Again, you don't need it if you don't know how to do it, don't do it because you're going to cause somebody harm. When you develop a bit of knowledge about it. It's something that you can add into your Rukia to help speed things up from the things that as a supplementary aid Rukia

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audio. Audio of the Quran has been recorded with the intention of Rokia I have a couple I recommend shift and agony. Earlier it means Rukia audio has been usually quite beneficial. And likewise, Shane Hayden, Mohammed Hello, Hi Dan has some audio which is also quite beneficial Rukia audio. Again, it's a supplementary ad if you don't replace your Rukia and their Rokia with mp3

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but if you want to supplement Rukia with some rockier audio, listen to this. You know they're traveling in the car, someone's driving them to your house and you have them put the earphones in and just listen. Or as a unit you say when you go to sleep at night for half an hour when they're too tired to read the Quran, pop the earphones in Have a listen. It's not the same as real Rukia because Rukia is on the breath. rook is in the citation and the blowing and all of the other things. But at the end of the day, it's a supplementary aid that you can use and you can help yourself with if you've got too many patients, you've had a double booking, let one maybe listen to some Rokia

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audio while you're dealing with the other one. These are all things that you can just balance and use in a balanced way. Okay. There are many many Herbes and medicines from the herbs and medicines in no particular order includes things like saffron, things like bath salts, there are some very very good bath salts that are made up of certain Herbes and things like that and we're inshallah gonna try to provide some recipes to you at a later date and Charlize we're developing them for some things, you can put them in the bath the person can be themselves, it may help to weaken the gin and just generally to give the body a bit of a prep in preparation for your Rukia and in general, one of

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the Rocha he advised me and I do think this is good advice is try to prepare your patients before they come get them to recite someone themselves, get someone else reciting on them bit of rock your audio, maybe maybe a bath in some bath salts, maybe some oil rubbed on them that's been recited. Get them prepared.

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So that you can very quickly get to the point where the gin is reacting, if you can, and when you can.

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Rukia water we've already mentioned, same artists we've talked about before, the same stuff that you recite when you recite you blow. One of the techniques that some of the sheoak in Saudi Arabia use for the Rukia audio for the Rukia water is very good is that they have their own bottle of water, and they leave it a quarter empty. And usually it's Samson. And what they do is the patient brings their own bottle of Zamzam to the Rukia session. And what the chef he does is he's constantly reading over the water all the time. In his general citation in his rookie year, he's got the water days blowing in every now and again, what he does is he pours the water from the patient into the

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bottle, so it's all mixed up, then he pulls it back out. So the bottle that's been given to the patient has been recited on sometimes Al Baqarah has been recited over it 10 times, because of the amount the chef's been reading for the bit input a bit output a bit input a bit out, and that is just a little technique, some of the shoe of use, you can feel free to use it or not to use it. So Secondly, the some of the shoe in Saudi use, and it helps to maintain sort of, you know, effective, rockier water that you can use to spray to give them to drink, and so on and so forth.

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Some of the things that I mentioned regarding ions, some people treat it with seawater, seawater baths and sea salt baths. Again, this is something that hasn't got a great deal of evidence from the sun net, but you feel free as a medicine as a herbal medicine to try Cecil and to try seawater bath if you wish. truffles are also reportedly very good for some of the LMR basis on the Hadith of the Prophet SAW Selim said that the truffle is a shifa for the eye. And they said they most of the scholars of Hadith they translate the word Shiva as she found for the eye, the actual eye as you put the water in your eye, but some of the LMR they said the word AI is general and it can include the

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evil eye. So we'll talk about preparing truffles. The problem with truffles is they're very, very expensive. And I don't want you to waste a huge amount of money on you know, supplementary medicine when you have the foreigner it's free. Honey, major, major important thing, get them drinking good quality honey, good quality honey, not nasty, cheap supermarket. Sugar, honey. Yeah, manuka honey is very good. Likewise, cedar honey is very good, but generally good quality honey, honey that is of a very high quality. If you go to the supermarket, maybe I'm quite used quite commonly by the manuka honey six plus 10 plus manuka honey. It's not the only thing but it is a very high quality kind of

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honey.

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Things like rose water, sometimes they put in the bath when we use the rules water to clean. And in general, I think rules water rather than being a cure of its own is useful because anything that is a nice smell, and anything that's quite perfumey. A lot of the jinn they don't like it, they don't like nice smells, they don't like things like that. So you can use perfume, you can obviously with the brothers, you can use these blocks red blocks of misc, you get them in a lot of Pakistani, a lot of them made in Pakistan, and then you get them a lot of Asian shops. They're kind of like red square blocks, and they smell quite strong. They're like a soap, and they kind of red blocks of

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misc. And these are quite useful, you can put it up the patient's nose. They don't like it at all. You can use it like smelling salts, if you don't like the smell of smelling salts, you can rub the red misc cubes under their nose, and the gin will usually wake up very severely. black seed. black seed is a cure for everything except for death. Use the oil but use good quality oil, use ground seeds that you give to people. We're going to talk about some recipes later. Yeah, use the whole seeds, seven whole seeds and drink with the honey water. Very, very beneficial. Okay. Copying is from the major, major causes of cure. We now myself and Abu Ibrahim coping is an integral part of

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our rokeya too long to talk about coping now. But we have with us a brother if he has some time maybe to share some time with us we have a head jam with us who Mashallah has performed a jam on someone today. And maybe you'll be able to share some time to answer some of your questions on coping. So it's useful for rocky to learn how to cook. And it's useful to have a good hijab on hand who you know, you can refer people to male and female, because you're going to need a woman to do the women and a man to do the men. So you have a male and female head jam, and you may integrate the hijama was the Rukia. So you do the hijama just before the rokeya or you do a little bit of Rukia.

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And then you begin the hijama to try to encourage the gin to come out through the blood

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from the Herbes that is said to be useful against the gin is acid fetida to ask me how to spell it. I believe in order it's called hang as a fetida. And it's a good garlic substitute. And again, some people use it in some of the medicine that they give. It's a herb it's not you know, people will tend to say you can't use this. You can't use it.

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It's a herb it's a medicine it's like giving someone paracetamol it's up to you what you use. It's a simple herb you may find benefit in it, you may not find any benefit in it from the benefit is coastal Hindi. Of course, I'll Hindi nl coastal Bahari Costas Indian costus and white Costas both of them can be made into a little mixture and use for nose drops, they can be given as part of a Rukia program, and they can often be very, very beneficial. Generally, I've used red Indian costus and put it into a little bit of water, a little bit of oil and use it as a nose drop, it can be very, very, very effective in causing the jinn to react very severely. And again, you know, these are things

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that you can learn by, you know, spending some time with the robot, you know, there are different types of misc you can use to wake the jinn up Makkah mosque, you know, the Red Mosque we talked about, we talked about actual dates. Of course, the Prophet Solomon said, Whoever eats in the morning, seven Agia dates and there are seven you can remember this I think of the top my head there are seven different wordings of this Hadith, seven dates and seven different wordings of the Hadith. From the wording of the Hadith are ajwa dates will not be harmed by say hello poison on that day. ajwa dates

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ajwa dates from Alia to Medina dates from Medina regular dates there are many wordings of the Hadith. My advice to you is this. If you can get ajwa dates from an area of Medina called Alia Alia to Medina that's the area towards Masjid Koba in Medina then do so. If you can't get any actual dates. If you can't get any Medina dates. If you can't get regular dates Bismillah seven dates, eat them with believing that Allah subhanaw taala will make it a cure for you, Allah azza wa jal will cause the speaker not to affect you on that day. Be aware that a patient who is severely affected by sad will often hide them. We have a lot of fun giving patients accurate dates. Five go in the mouth

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to go on the floor.

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To go in the mouth. One gets fingers in the mouth vomit the month again, yes, so they don't like to have them actually dates. Okay, olive oil we mentioned I recommend cold pressed extra virgin olive oil the highest quality and I personally recommend from Palestine for the simple reason that Palestine is a landed ally so gel described as being mubaraka in the Quran, a land which is full of Baraka the tree is Baraka and the land is Baraka. So, if you can get the oil that is from the tree of Baraka in the land of Baraka, then this is something good, but inshallah any olive oil of good quality will be something useful. Some of the LMR they use ground rhubarb.

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And again, this is in some of the recipes and alarms which knows best we use center and siddal Center is something which is what they call a purgative medicine, it causes you to have diarrhea, and it causes you to have loose bowels, they give you center tablets, when you have constipation. Okay, I'm talking about center leaves, what you're going to do is you're going to boil a pan and you're going to put some center leaves in the pan, a pinch, a handful, a teaspoon, whatever. And you're going to boil them in the pan for some time. And then you're going to leave it and you usually leave it from Asia until February you can give them right away but the way I was told to do

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it is to leave it from Asia until fragile and then it fragile you give them this you fish out the leaves and you give them this kind of yellow essential water to drink. Do not give it to them repeatedly day after day after day, couple of days, three days, do not give it to them repeatedly you will cause them damage okay. Try and give them the Center for a couple of days the center tablets have written on and I don't like the center tablets I prefer to make the mixture but the center tablets especially if you make the mixture with zum zum or Rukia water but the center tablets have on them do not take them repeatedly. Okay, so give people a bit of a break siddur the profit

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side seller mentioned that seven leaves of the cedar tree that's the Lotus Lotus Lotus tree, the low tree and it's also called Lotus and Lodi found both of them and the cedar you take seven leaves if you can't get the seven years because they're all broken up into pieces. Just use a teaspoon and say Bismillah but you try to get seven leaves as much as you can. You can give some of the water you put them in water. You mix them up, you give the person to drink some and some of them you put it in the bath. And this was the advice of shiffman buzz, Rahim Allah, Allah to drink some of it and to put some of it in the bath and the Hadith of the Prophet sighs lm is that sydor is effective against

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magic, okay, there are some other purgative medicines that you can give people like Sal ammoniac and some other things, which basically cause people to have diarrhea, it's not very nice. Don't give them in large amounts. Be careful. It's someone's body you're playing with if you don't know what you're doing, just stick with the Rukia of the Quran. If you know what you're doing, then as you develop some knowledge in this you can stick to some recipes people have given and likewise emetic

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Like uncap things that cause people to vomit. There is some particular brothers who make herbal concoctions that are deadly. You know, we have this brother, Mashallah Baraka like gives us a little bit of powder, we give it to the patients and some mango juice. Within 10 minutes that patient will be vomiting and vomiting and vomiting and severe diarrhea for something like 48 hours.

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You do not use this at random, or I'll try and see how it goes. But when you see the stomach is bulging, and the person is desperate to vomit, and they actually sometimes they'll faint because they how much they want to vomit, you can give them something that is an emetic that will cause them to vomit. And so perhaps they will vomit up some of the Sahel, and you will see things come out we have a system we read upon who gets green things, random shapes and things that just come out of our nose, bits of hair, furballs all sorts of stuff. So you'd be aware of what you might see very, very briefly, there are some recipes or just give you an example and you know don't don't worry about

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writing all down inshallah you can catch the video in sha Allah Allah. The one of the the recipes that I was given, which I find it quite useful is to take half a kilogram of honey.

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And to add a tablespoon of ground black seed, a tablespoon of ground Center, a tablespoon of ground rhubarb, and a tablespoon of ground cumin to mix them all up together. And to take a tablespoon of the mixture with a glass of water every morning.

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I'm not going to repeat too heavy When shall I repeat it afterwards. Because of the time we literally have eight minutes and we have another module to view half a kilogram of honey, tablespoon of ground Black Sea tablespoon of ground sand, a tablespoon of ground rhubarb tablespoon of ground cumin, mix them all together, you'll get big honey Marsh, put me in the honeypot. Take a tablespoon of that honey mixture every morning and put it into a glass of rockier water, stir it around, dissolve it warm the water up a bit, dissolve it in the water, give it to the person to drink. It's very, very useful. It contains a number of things that are cures and the sooner

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from this is the advice of sheer idle luck. Well, he has a seven day program, you can find it on my website, Mohammed tim.com. And you hit a double m a D tm ti m.com. And she has a seven day program which involves reciting on olive oil, putting on at night washing off in the morning, putting rockier water over yourself in the morning and drinking Rukia water three times a day with honey and black seed. It's very, very, very useful. It's very effective. And it does help to break down the magic or break down the gin problem. And it helps to get rid of the evil eye as well because it contains honey, which is a cure contains black seed, which is a cure contains olive oil, which is a

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blessing tree that is a cure. And it contains Rukia water which is a cure. So it contains a number of different cures and the instructions are on the website. As for preparing the truffles is the last thing I'll talk about. The with the problem with truffles is they're very expensive. But if you do use them, the problem is preserving them. There's two ways to preserve them. One is to cut them up and put them into a brown paper bag and leave them in the fridge and they become rock hard. And the other ways to put them into tiny cubes, put them into some good quality olive oil and freeze them in the freezer. When you want to use them. You defrost the thing and you take a single piece

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out. You take a small cube, something like a square centimeter sort of cube, you chop it up really really really small, pureed, drop it into some water boil up in the water and give people a mint tea cup, you know like a little thin gel, a little mint tea cup you give them about twice a day of the truffle and people who suffer from severe iron have found a great deal of benefit in it. But I advise you again these are supplementary medicines, they may help. They may not they may work they may not occur and is your ultimate cure. And the ultimate thing that you're concerned with

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continuing straight away into the last topic before and we're going to try and have a system for dealing with the questions in Sharla later on, but we have five minutes until Salah I'm going to split this between myself and brother Abu Ibrahim, regarding innovations and bad practice in Rukia. We've mentioned a number of them already.

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From the types that we're going to talk about are things like people talking about visualizations, visual Rokia, imagine you're beating the gentleman in your mind. I put the genie in a bottle, any kind of weirdness that you hear. Take it with a pinch of salt you know when you hear weirdness, you hear a rocky and he ties the person's fingers and toes and then he makes them blow into a ball and he says the gin is in the bottle. Whenever you hear someone who says he has control over the gym, be careful the prophets lie Selim was shy to tie up the gin in the masjid because he remembered the do absolutely Monalisa so do not get into these innovative

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practices, weird things controlling the gene seeking help from the gym, from those people and I'm not shy to say what he likes. From those people who seek help from the gym is this man who comes from France and his name has been Halima. This person is someone who is Mr. Ephraim misshapen, he seeks the help of the gym in the shape on I'm not going to say he does it deliberately Allahu Allah Musa deliberately or not, but I followed his situation for a number of years, I think now, and from this, I have sent a brother to go and see him and I have been there when he was there in performing the opia. And the brother I sent he is knowledgeable about these issues, and we looked at the

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evidence and we came to the conclusion that this is a person who seeks the help of the shape on this is a person whether he knows it or not, whether the shape kind of just confused him, or whether he actually knows it. He is mysteries on bilgin. He is someone who is seeking the help of the jinn and he brings the jinn to tell people what is wrong with them. And he says that he can catch the jinn by reading a nomatter Kunal Yeti become Allahu Jammie. See Mashallah, you're the first one in the universe to be able to do this. The prophet SAW Selim did not do it and the Sahaba did not do it and the major imams of rokeya like even taymiyah and even okay him didn't do it but Mashallah been

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Halima is the first person, Masha Allah, Allah who is able to capture the jinn through this ayah. In reality, we saw the people he hangs around with the old people who seek help with the jinn in the shape on they all people who do these kind of practices so we're not frightened to warn about them. And if they have some issues with that, they can come and see us and we will demonstrate to them what it is that we mean be even in the heat of Article water Island. Do not be fooled Yeah, a one about success of a rocky who is not upon the sun for two reasons. Number one, we know that success can come through haraam ways and halaal ways but only the halloway is true success. For example, the

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magician may be able to remove a gene by sending a gene that is more powerful. I saw a video recently of a priest a Coptic priest in Egypt, he goes with the cross and the Muslims come to him Subhana Allah, the Muslims come to him and they say, perform rakia upon me or priest, and he touches them with the cross and He says in the name of Isa IQ. And the gene is thinking Mashallah, this is a field that has my only job was to make this person commit should they committed ship I'm off, or he has a gene with him that is more powerful than their gene and he, they take that gene out by force, and he says you are cured. Now accept this religion of Christianity. Likewise, there is another

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reason why people may be successful when they're not upon the sinner. And we're not talking about the Christians here, but we're talking about some of the Muslims who are their practices are not correct. They have some innovative practices in their Rukia but because they are fighting against the shaitaan and because they are trying to do their best Allah azza wa jal gives them a degree of success. That doesn't mean what they do is right. Even Tamia Rahim Allah mentions this group, when he says How can the ashar era those people who twist the names and attributes of Allah be successful in Jihad feasterville Allah. Ibn taymiyyah mentions at length why the ashar era are successful in

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Jihad free sebelah. In this case, he said they were fighting against the enemies of Allah azza wa jal from the worst of the people and the people who came to kill the Muslims. So Allah subhanaw taala gave them a degree of success by the fact that they were trying to do something for the sake of Allah. But does that mean that because they actually want to battle the likes of Salahuddin haimo law someone like this won a battle that that means that we should all become a Shara? Absolutely not just because a rocky is successful in something, judge his practices by the Quran and by the sooner

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in this are Luca innovative practices Rukia that involves elements of magic. You see someone with the Star of David and he puts it on their head and he reads the Koran think where does the staff David come from? Where did you get the Star of David from we saw in the books of the magician's, be careful of this kind of thing. And there are many, many things I wanted to mention. But looking at the time, I just want to give our brother Abdullah Ibrahim A couple of minutes to add some of the stories and his experiences and some of the things that he's noticed regarding innovations and bad practices. And maybe we can just have a word about money and ruka who take a great deal of money for

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what they do.

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Supply. Okay, well, one of the bad practices involved in this rocker in this field of lochia.

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We mentioned that two of the biggest trials that are going to come upon you as Araki is the trial of women and the trial of money, the trial of women and the trial of money. One of the bad practices that we have yet if one is these people who they take advantage of our brothers and sisters at their time of need, and they charge them not 10s not 20s not hundreds or 1000s of pounds. We

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have examples of people reciting for half an hour charging 1000 pounds for half an hour worth of recitation? Yeah, and one. This is something which the people have unfortunately turned the field of Roca into a business. We've noticed a huge amount of people practicing rokkor in the last few years. Why? Because there's a gap in the market. Whenever there is a gap in the market, whenever there is a demand, people are going to come fill that gap. They are fraudsters, they are Cowboys, they are Jihad they are ignorant and they have no knowledge of this field in reality or very little. Yes upon Allah. We have them starting Rokia clinics, they are becoming you know, qualified Islamic

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practitioners in inverted commas and they are taking our brothers and sisters for a right now This should make me and you even more motivated to get out and help our brothers and sisters, FISA vilella there is nothing wrong with taking your expenses. So you have traveled 20 miles or 20 minutes or whatever it may be. There is nothing wrong with requesting that so that you yourself and I financial loss, you're doing this for the sake of Allah Jalla wa ala there is nothing wrong with this. There is nothing wrong with a with with requesting your expenses for Rokia, there is nothing wrong if the person gives you something. So you go you perform that Rokia and the person as a as a

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means of there, the gesture of the appreciation, they give you some money. There's absolutely nothing wrong with this. But yeah, if one if somebody asks you do you charge and you say no, no, you only I don't charge but you can give me a gift. SubhanAllah we have people like this, I don't charge but you can give me a gift. So now this person is going to feel cheap if they don't give you something and in reality in a roundabout way you have requested payment. We see from the Hadees that we mentioned, there's nothing wrong with accepting some payment for your opia But yeah, one this is one of the biggest doors to fitna, they you as Araki will face one of the biggest doors to fit now

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to misguidance to insincerity is the door of charging how many are good Rocky, and how how many a person was doing this for the sake of Allah was extremely successful. The people began to gather around them, the people began to visit them the people began to you know, seek their their aid in this after the aid of Allah and so the shape on he came to these people through the door of charging money and now they charge two 300 pounds for one session of rocker. Another thing that you need to be aware of with regards to charging is these people they sincerity Subhan Allah it begins we may be able to question their sincerity as a result of they will say you know we mentioned that 15 minutes

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into the session the gin begins to surface after one hour they say sorry, I've got another patient coming and they kick you out and they bring somebody else in and that's another 50 6070 pounds whatever it may be. I advise you brothers and sisters. If you even think that okay may be a source of income for you where you may quit your job and make it a source of income for Allah subhanaw taala do not go into it only do Rokia if you have a stable income, this is my personal advice only to look at if you have a stable external income which is not linked with Raka and you are doing Rokia for the sake of Allah because will lie if you do it for the sake of Allah Allah will you know

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bless you with gardens underneath which rivers flow Allah subhanaw taala will bless you with palaces in general be a vanilla, we hope Allah subhanaw taala will give us the den of martyrs be in the light to highlight. So the reward with Allah subhanaw taala is much greater than 20 3040 506,000 10,000 pounds. Yeah, I can't do it sincerely for the sake of Allah. I advise you brothers do not request payment. But if you are given a gift, no problem, but it's okay for you to request your expenses and things like this. Just close this door to close this door to fit now, close this door to fit now just like we close the door to fit now with the mme being present. I

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advise you brothers and sisters, close this door to fit now just take out you know you look at your schedule. I can take out one hour, two hours, three hours doing Rokia for the sake of Allah, whatever you can spare in your week for the sake of Allah then I advise you brothers and sisters to engage in Rokia feasts of vilella. But if you want to recoup some of your expenses, then there's no problem inshallah if our brother has anything to add. I think now is the time for