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Bismillah Alhamdulillah us Salam Alaikum Welcome to the de chomedey or whole subscribe if you haven't already. And my next guest is no stranger to the deen show. We've had him on before. Former Def Jam, musical artist and I'm excited to have him on the program. lot to talk about lots of talk about he was with the likes of Russell Simmons. Oh, cool. J You know, people are on this record label. And now he's on the Dean show. And let's bring him on Salaam Alaikum. Brother, how are you? So catchy? I don't really and 100 1100 Give us a little How you been in the lab in excellent man. It's good to see you again. It's been a long time. It's really good to see you. How's everything in
your part of the world? You're in Gambia now? On Hamdulillah? Yes, I'm here and get me in the blessed land of the Muslims. It's a beautiful place to be.
So Allah give us a little bit of rundown. So Omar aka DuBose they say Right? Yes. The Voice.
Du Bois former Jeff Daniels cool it another former Def Jam artists, you know, people ask me why do you like talking about this industry, talking to people with yourself and Lewin and people like Napoleon, these people who've been in that industry? Because I would say what would you say the percentage are of Muslims, non Muslims, people who are following the path, you know, listening to the music of the people in the industry? What would you say if you had to guess the percentage wise? 90% 95% of the Muslims? Is Muslims non Yeah, the people in general? Are Muslims, let's say. I would say the percentage of people that listen to music is probably I mean,
it's not point 9% of the world, you know, 99 point but so these people in that industry in the music industry, like Def Jam, and what are the other you know, read be rock and roll hip hop? Yes.
I mean, I would say the the if you if you were to split it up, it's as if Subhanallah as if today, the hip hop industry has become the way the rock industry was before. It's just as popular now. I mean, you have people out there that are just as popular as rock artists. I mean, this is crazy.
Give us a little bit give us a little bit of about a rundown a little bit like sort of people who didn't get see your story before give us a little bit of a rundown of what you're past as far as the record label and who you're associated with. back then. So just to give people a background for those who have not you know, seen any video footage or anything regarding our video videos before
my pass for mine and Def Jam artists were assigned to I was actually Leocoin and Tina Davis were the ones that signed me at that time.
during that time
you know you have artists such as music soul Chow and so many things on the same label with me
Jarel from New York was actually people like Jarrod they were actually in different section murdering ludicrous JC overly stressed oh my god, it's this big house was on Def Jam at that time. I'm not sure if he still is nuts, but you know, they were on their their side Rockefeller. You know, even walking, walking in the office, you will see at that time, you will be able to see who's selling the most etc. You will be able to see these things in the hallway when you walk through them. This is an example of some of the people that want to label the same time as myself.
Have you heard ever heard of this individual here? I'm gonna go ahead and play a little clip. And let me know these are some of these new names that have come up and I did a segment I was talking about
But this I'll tell you the reason why after we watch this, okay, I'll determine when dolphin drop dolphin spin out of my own. I can't think of one person gave me $1 coin because it is bigger than life. Well, I'm saying, but if you think I'm gonna go out like POC and Biggie, you must be stupid. No, say like this 2017.
Are you familiar with young Dolph? Young Dorf? Any so many of these new artists, I'm not even familiar with that.
I was the same way. But he mentioned something that he mentioned, he mentioned someone in there. He mentioned the biggie. So you want to be hardcore with your hat to the bat, Biggie and Tupac. Right. Okay. You know that you you're familiar with them? You You know, what was interesting about this story was that he was talking about dalf. You know, young Dolph, they call it a very famous rapper, I have never heard of him before. But the interesting what caught our attention, because a lot of the news was reporting on his death, he actually just died. So this clip in the beginning is talking about, you know, how you see the beginning, he's going to determine when he's going to drop, and he
wasn't going to follow or wasn't going to happen to him, What happened to Biggie and smallest, and he got in some beef with some other Yo Gotti. And these guys, when you researching, you see like the, you know, the beef that was going on. So kind of the similar just history repeating itself. Alright. And then you go, there's like 1000s of ways you know, and more, you can die. But he ended up going to a cookie shop. And that was it, he got gunned down, you got gunned down, you can watch this video that I did on it. So what do you think, you know, when you when you see that, like, you know, you got in there. These are the new rappers that are coming up. And, you know, a lot of the
youth imitating and following these people and taking them as role models.
I mean, when you when you see situations like this, I mean, like you said, it's history repeating itself. It's history repeating itself. And, and it's as a result of the environment and environment that they place themselves in, where there's a competition, that is of no benefit in the hereafter. There's a competition, that, you know, that has absolutely no benefit in the hereafter at all.
You know, when you see that?
I don't know. I mean, it's, it's like I said, it's something that it's a cycle.
Because it's happened so many times just the situation with Tupac and Biggie. We've seen a number of cases like this, where you may or may not even hit the new post, but certain things that take place, you may not admit the news, but we hear about it behind the scenes, whether it's a club fights, whether somebody is fighting in the strip club, wherever it may be those places where where evil normally takes place.
Yes, I mean, you find these type of things happen. And it's all the environments, we can't express how much the environment is actually responsible for the production of that environment. And music is one of those things that helps to produce those environments, as we spoke about previously, in one of our previous episodes, about how the, the place music has a place of worship, just like you know, people have churches, people have messages for places of worship, people have synagogues, for places of worship, etc. You know, likewise, the, the music,
music has a place of worship as a place of worship, and that's the nightclub. That's the strip club, you know, have places of worship with where certain things take place. And it's in regards to the churches in regards to you know, the music that takes place here, I think is a that's a whole different discussion in itself, because people, many people perceive that or perceived that there's a such thing as good music. You understand? People have a perception, I was actually speaking to someone regarding this last night. He was basically saying that, you know, he was he was, he was wondering, How can something be evil? If, in its essence, he felt he felt like music was created by
God? In other words, you understand? So how can something like music be evil? This was his whole argument. And I simply asked him, I said,
I want you to think about this for a second.
who constructed a guitar, who put it together? Who manufactured it?
And who taught people how to manufacture something in order for sound to come up? I said, Do you think it was got
such a guitar or a piano it had to be manufactured? Now we're referring to the human voice that's something different this
Something that clearly Allah has created the human voice. So that's something that's a whole different story. That's a whole different subject. But we talking about something that has been manufactured, such as the flute, saxophone, harmonica, drums, whatever you want to call it, it's been manufactured in someone has taught people how to manufacture that. Who was that somebody?
This is the conversation that happened.
What was what? How did that conversation go at the end when you talk was, it's different, like, you know, the average lay person talking about it, but you were at one point your whole life was revolving around this industry wanted to be a part of it, and then you became a part of it. And then now you're around these, you know, you know, superstar, you know, these musicians, and he stars right. So you know, the ins and outs. Exactly. And this is what I was trying to explain to him. You know, you know, this as well as Allah mentions Misurina, that first thickening quantum letter and the moon x the people of knowledge, if you don't, if you don't know. And this is the way this is
explained by scholars is that if a person is a doctor, or if you want to know about medicine, you go to you go back to the doctor. If you want to know about law, you go ask the lawyer. If you want to know how to play, if you want to know how to play basketball, you don't have to Tiger Woods. You don't have to target once you go to Michael Jordan. Yeah.
So likewise, some one, if they want to know about music, Eddie, go out x those people that were involved in NGO x, if you want to know about HIPAA, go ask somebody like Nepal, I'll go ask somebody like a mere brother, formerly known as loom. Go x these people about HIPAA. Even myself, you can ask me about that environment, because that was in all of those environments. So you have the x the people that know,
and they will be able to explain to you, as we mentioned before, you know, the whole concept of musical genius, and these things, where did this come from? What does it mean?
It's beautified. But what does it mean? You understand on a deeper level? What does it really mean? And people need to understand that, because you can look in the you can look in the Webster dictionary, the word genius comes from the word Jimmy. And people don't understand this, when you understand what these people use, the type of words they use. And you start to understand, on a deeper level, deeper level, what these things mean, then, you understand who is the manufacturer of those instruments, is no one else, but at least himself.
himself has taught people how to create these instruments,
how to how to move and dance, these things are whispered to people. You know, on a deeper level, this is how we understand.
I like what you said. It's crazy. Yeah. I like what you said. Yeah, it's very deep. I like what you said, you compared many of these places, to houses of worship for shaytaan. Yes. That's absolutely. So yeah. So next time, if somebody visits one of those, I mean, it was saying is from a place of love. I mean, many people that we know, we, you know, have you have, you know, it's like somebody who's gone down that path, and you don't want someone to go down that road of destruction. So we're warning the people, you know, trying to, you know, absolutely get given some of this with some of this warning before you go down, and then you end up destroying the heart, you know, which
absolutely, I mean, we, we have to advise the people the best of the best of our ability. Everyone has their own decision to make and have the love. One thing I like to always express to people that, look, we are all under construction.
We are all under construction, until you go to the grave. None of us are perfect. But we're striving to get better as human beings every single day, every single day. I only can tell you from my own experience what I know and understand. Because people must understand I was able to play multiple instruments. So I can walk into my own studio in a few hours and come up with a song was that I was one of those types of people. You know, and everybody knew me for that
sort of thing is that, who better to tell you about what's going on regarding instruments than someone who used to actually, FDIC play guitar for eight hours a day? Eight hours a day, eight hours a day playing the guitar? Wow, that word they read.
Eight hours a day I play guitar. And more hours were spent playing piano
you understand? So my day was filled up with music. I didn't know anything else. You understand?
I took time out.
to read books here and there. And this is one of the things at Hamdulillah that led me to Islam. But I'm just trying to give people a picture an idea to help them understand where I come from,
you know, this, this this area, you know, it is something I can speak about for many hours.
You know, and only Islam, only Islam, and he gave me that gave me that true satisfaction.
Because as I mentioned before,
we know that music is something
that was set up in order to mimic what Allah subhanaw taala does.
Understanding is something that if you look at the Quran,
and you look at music,
you can read it, you can listen to it, and you can write it down. And you can memorize
all four things, all four things, you can do them both with a Quran and music. Do people think this is an accident,
when the speech of Allah is challenged by something such as music, but they have the opposite effect,
one destroys the heart. And one brings life to the heart.
You understand 111 gives life to the heart, as the last panel data mentions in the Quran.
that the Quran is what gives life is something that gives life to
give give gave life to even souls that once did was music, it will tease your ears for a second, you will feel good. And then you will be depressed again. And you will go through that you will go through that same cycle over and over and over again.
I always tell people just pay attention. One, one indication that we see our sign that Allah has clearly left for people, for people that that think and reflect
is the, you know, is how people die.
You know, it's important for people to pay attention to how people die,
where they How did they die? You know, if you look at Spatola and you look how Jimi Hendrix died, for example, as an example, and this is someone that I you know, quote unquote, idolized back in the day,
you know, had pictures of Jimi Jimi Hendrix everywhere on my wall.
And he died
very horrible statement died in a bad state
asphyxiation or something, they call it where a person is, like, you know,
I believe that is when a person is is
like dying on his own vomits, you know, something similar to that was serious about Elvis Presley, how about that was alcohol etc. You know, how about Elvis Presley? You heard how he does similar, right? Similar in many of these singers and musicians, they die in some very horrible ways, man.
You know, and then you look at the opposite. People that are reciters of the choir, you look at them, you see that they research, you will find that they died in more peaceful states. You know, so it's a difference is the complete opposite. It's the complete opposite. And now when you mentioned it's interesting, usually we give these examples like Madonna or Elvis Presley for a certain generation, and you would think everybody would continue to you know, know them after some time. But now you say Elvis Presley, like the new generation coming up like who Elvis who was Elvis?
Yeah. So yes, yes. So what are you leaving behind? That's very important, what kind of legacy and look at look at the people's death. It's amazing. You actually spoke about this. And then when we did our program before, and it looks like the brothers took a video and put it together here.
The brothers put a nice video together from our show. Mashallah, let's see what you were talking about before.
People don't understand, like I mentioned, when you arouse yourself with these things, you're opening yourself up to a whole nother world that people don't understand. And as you mentioned, the people the musicians playing with the Ouija board. People don't know what these people are doing behind the scenes. There's a reason these these ways women and these people are screaming in the crowd for them. They're utilizing many people narrating right the jinn system in their performances and everything. People don't realize these things. This is a whole nother reality especially many of the Muslims are very ignorant towards this fact. They don't understand that this is a whole nother
element. It's just not something that's, you know, friendly and things like this. No, you are inviting these things into your home on a deeper level.
Some scholars refer to music they've.
So you remember that when you're going deep into this, and again, this is ladies and gentlemen, this is coming from someone who was in the music industry, with the record label Def Jam playing the guitar and many other multiple instruments eight hours a day knowing the ins and outs. So we're getting kind of we're getting things exposed to us and at a deeper level, do you think somebody can get will they take their selves, their Deen to the next level? Because what if somebody is like, look, you know, I'm reading Quran, you know, or someone can say things but only Allah knows what's going on at a deeper level in their life. But someone you hear this like, okay, look, I'm still
practicing, I pray a recent Quran Allah, you know, do my other obligations. But what's wrong if I pick up the saxophone, guitar, and I get down with some Jimi Hendrix still, you know what I mean?
I mean, even hearing Hearing you say that, right? It almost gives me the chills. Because I mean,
embracing the slam, when I embrace the slam everything they trickle off immediately, it's something that takes time.
And definitely, I would say most definitely, if a person can leave off music,
if a person, you know, it's a step by step process, and we could talk about some things in order, you know, some things that may help to cure that, you know, that addiction will help them with this as an illness. And people don't realize it's the type of illness, it's an addiction.
But if a person can leave that off, most definitely, they want to enjoy a different type of Islam. within themselves, they, they it's definitely in sha Allah is definitely a step, a step towards becoming a better Muslim, maybe, because it's something that
say for example, if a person doesn't listen to music, any
when they hear the Quran, the Quran is going to affect their heart in a different way.
Even if a person doesn't understand how Arabic For example, you can have a person. And this is something I that I encourage many people to do. If a person doesn't sound doesn't understand the Arabic language. Simply go on find a nice reciter that you like machete or cyber comedy. Find someone that you you you enjoy listening to. And they have the subtitles now on many of these videos.
Listen to them recites and pay attention to the translation at the same time you hear the society
and see the effect the Quran will have on your heart.
Even if you don't see any translation, if a person just simply simply puts the Quran on his ears and listens to the Quran, they will have a totally different effect it will have a totally different effect on on a heart. That is that is abstaining from music. That is abstaining from listening to music versus a part that listens to music.
You will see a totally different effect. Because that two things those two things can't live in the same heart. Love for music, in Allah for Quran cannot exist in the same heart. Repeat the love for music. If a person loves to listen to music, they're engaging in it.
They can't love to listen to Quran at the same time, those two things cannot exist at the same heart. They're gonna fight with one another they're gonna be like this one is going to try to push the other out. This is generally how it works. And this is something even I'll tell him Josie Rahim Allah mentions over 500 years plus
music is the Quran a[???]a this is something that he mentioned.
And this is something that
people like myself, and I didn't even have you know what was very interesting.
This is before I even started seeing text related to music in Islam, already felt in my heart that music is evil something is wrong
without seeing text, because because of what the there in the environment it produces. It produces an environment that is that is that is in opposition
to what is pleasing to Allah subhanaw taala give me an example.
I'll give an example.
As I was exiting out of the music industry, you know, Allah took me through, took me through steps. Like I said, it wasn't something where I just totally exited out. I was able to notice certain things
By the mercy of Allah, He took me through steps a lot took me through steps, and allow me to see certain things first, so that I can develop that yaki that, that that absolute certainty that this was not something that was good for me. It was not good for me at all. And once I turn away from it,
I'm never coming back to understand. So I'll give you, I'll give you, I'll give you a prime example.
My former manager. And if she if she happens to watch this, she will, she will remember when she said this to me.
Before I totally exited out of the music industry, I was trying to do performances, I was trying to do things in what people would consider a very conservative way clean, trying to clean up my environment, okay, I want to, I don't want to have any alcohol. At my performances, I don't want to have this at my performances, I want to try to clean things up.
And one thing she said something to me that struck me, and I will never forget this. She said, But you know, when people hear your songs, listen to this. She said when people hear you playing, is singing, they listen to your lead, they listen to you play guitar, they may want to sip a you know, a little bit of wine.
She said they may want to sip a little bit of wine or drink something.
I said, Whoa,
that was a sign. That was that was one of the signs for me right there.
That was one of the signs right there for me. Like, okay, you saying that didn't just hear me sing.
What I'm saying and play my guitar, is making them want to pick up some alcohol and drink.
For me of something that I didn't realize,
because sometimes you don't realize the effects it has on sometimes you may do something you don't realize the effect it has on other people.
She informed me about something I didn't know.
And in that case, she was it was me acting the people of knowledge.
Because she was the ringleader in this area. Yeah.
They've done they've done that. They've done hundreds of studies, I mean, the scientific studies, you know, the special frequencies of music, how they affect the brain waves, you have one particular study 2012 by a psychologist, and that Shermer talking about the direct effect, these music musical rhythms have in our perception, right? Our perceptions. And so the this is there's science behind you know, how music affects how you music, these instruments and the rhythms and the frequency, the certain frequencies, you know, the certain frequencies, how they affect they, I saw one, one video that was showing a person in the studio who's like a sound engineer. And then he was comparing the
frequency to the standard music that people listen to Beyonce, Jay Z, and all this stuff, and what it was doing, you know, to the kind of the kind of rhythms it was producing. Wow. But then he played that, that then, and it was totally was something like it was a peaceful rhythm. It was something just kind of more tranquil. Now imagine we need
a study like that. Yes, yes, we need to sponsor a study, where what people are, when they when they put the headphones on a person listening to music, because we need to, we need to do our own science behind this and Sharla do some studies serious about this, where people are listening to music, and then a person is play some Quran or the event and see the effects it has on the human body. Because you can do these studies now.
And I'm interested to see what they're able to come up with with able to see scientifically Yeah, this is one of the effects that it has on the soul.
We've been informed about that.
So we want to I want to I'm interested to see what science will be able to reveal in regards to that will be there you go this could be a catalyst to kick it off. We get some scientists Muslim scientists out there contact you contact us and let's make this happened a good funded study on this, this would be very, very, very important and crucial. So you have all these different studies you know, proving this the effects that it has on the human body mind, you know, altering your perceptions. One comparison is like you know, male malware, you know, malware and viruses and malware and then it goes into human body. So these rhythms you know, the music and you know, the
saxophone and the music, all the instruments that you enjoyed playing playing for eight hours. That's like the malware and then most
Don't listen to the lyrics that are behind many songs. That's the poison that's coming in. Right?
Talk about that talk about that. Oh, you understand that?
They get you to break it down like that.
That's a very good example. That's a very good example, man. Because, like you said, you will find people in the club, right, for example, dance into something inside of the poison inside of the song itself. Is, is defaming women. Mm hmm. When she says she, and she's singing it, can you imagine she's repeating it? That is that is the speaking badly about her.
It's the feminine,
you know, and it's very, that should tell us something right there.
She's repeating it.
Like we said, it could be repeated, it could be recite it
is listened to. And it has the total opposite sort of fit. Because that woman as a result of that, I mean, let's just be honest, music is responsible for a lot of babies outside of wedlock.
Let's, let's keep it honest, let's keep it real. Yes, is responsible for a lot of Xena raw geeky luck, or adultery,
where you may find
two people from the opposite sex just in an elevator together, for example, and they hear a song and that could do something to their heart.
While they're while they're in seclusion,
that can affect the heart. So that's why though even those places he put it can be dangerous, especially when, when music is being played. But, you know, that's, that's a that's a that's a you know,
what people would consider an extreme example, but it's real.
This stuff was
inshallah this can be of motivation to get people to really go a little bit, you know, deeper into I've had guests on who have talked about, you know, the Alister Crowley's and the, you know, the influencers, people who actually, and we talked about this last time, let's move on to that, like, direct and this last video that we had you look that you were, the brothers took, and they made, you narrate over you were narrating over some of the effects really nicely done. And you were talking about the jinn actually, you know, invoking like, what did you mean by that, like, now we add another level, right? Now you're opening up the door to this unseen world, they go even deeper when
you go, you know, with these, the unknown spiritual dimension with the world of the jinn.
And Spatola wow, I mean, this is, this is a whole, like I said, it's a whole different element, when you when you when you talk about adding the
the effects it can have on you, you know, that the jinn could have on you now, because for people that don't understand what the jinn is,
this is another creation
that created the heavens and earth created before us. And unlike what people believe, despite what people believe, regarding Satan, for example, being a fallen angel, just being fallen angels, because I've had discussions with people in regards to that, you know, there are different creation
is your people need to understand that they are, they are a different, completely different creation, from angels, and human beings. And they existed long before us, they are created from a smokeless fire.
We believe that a bliss or Satan, he, he is a he's from a Moza gym, he's he's a gym.
So when you understand is that there's a separate creation. And I was just speaking to the very interesting, I was speaking to someone garden this last night
as I mentioned to you earlier,
when you understand that there's a different creation, watching you.
And some of them, like I said, you know, it's not something that people should be afraid of, but it's rather you should be conscious of it, that there is another creation that lives you know, lives around us.
And many of them are not paying us any attention. They're not you know, they have their own business. You know, they have they have their families, they get married, they have children just like you or not, but then there are some that are that are interacting with human beings. And you can literally
add a you can literally type in, you can find stories where women
are complaining about something attacking them at night that they can't see. You can type this, I've seen stories of this. I mean more than
I was 16 years ago, what women are complaining about something attacking them at night that they don't see,
you know, and actually having intercourse with them, and they can't see it, something they can't see. And they're looking for help the client up.
And this seems to be prevalent in the West, by the way, where there is a, you know, I will say, a lack of connection to the to the Creator of the heavens and earth
as a result of what we're discussing now, music being played in the home.
Personally, you know, I have a number of things. But let's talk about that element of music being played in the home, and how that opens you up.
Okay, let's let's, let's give a prime example.
You know, if you had a house and they pray, they plan, Dong song, for example,
by Cisco, or some artists, or they play something that is displeasing
to the Creator of the heavens and earth, to Almighty God,
that planet song is displeasing to Him. And all all music is in a category as far as far as I'm concerned, you know, that as we mentioned, but let's let's give an example. An extreme example.
Is that creation, that creation is trying to harm you. And many of them are followers of Satan, many of the gym are follows up saying you have Muslim gym, you have Christian Do you have Hindu jinn, they have our religions, the same religions, we follow many of them, many of them follow. You know, I would, I would encourage people read sort of to Jim, read the chapter in the Quran, that is referring to the gym, you have some that are good, and some of them are not. So those ones that are not good, and they wish evil for you, they wish they wish to cause you harm.
And if you are engaging in something that's displeasing to the Creator of the heavens and the earth, this opens you up even more to them.
Because, contrary to that, if you're making your Salah you are making use of car every day. You are in other words, you're you're you're saying fame, you're saying prayers to protect yourself from them, then they, you know, they can they can they can't harm you except, you know, with the permission of Allah in the first place, they can't harm you.
But you open yourself up to these things. If you are engaging in the things that are displeasing to Allah, this is the key thing. You're engaging in something that did that's displeasing to Allah. So you open yourself up, in fact,
you know, we hear we heard a story before, there was a brother that was doing Rukia on a system.
And, you know, Allahu Allah, and how true this story is. But coming from a musician coming from a musician's background, I can totally relate to that. She was as he was reciting over, he began to gin began to speak to the brother. And he asked him, he asked the gin, why did you possess the system.
And what the gin mentioned is that she was listening to music at the time, she had headphones on ears, and she was listening to music. So as a result, it made it easy for me to present
you left the door open, so not even. Yeah.
And this is related to drugs. You know,
alcohol, because music is people don't understand music is like a drunk. It's like an alcohol. It's like alcohol is like you're drinking alcohol with your ears.
That's a very interesting way to put it
is like you're drinking alcohol with your ears, you're being poisoned.
So she's walking around, listen to something that's displeasing to Allah, and that has an effect on the heart, soul, etc. According to this gin, if that story is true, as we mentioned, it made it easier for him to possess.
You could talk to a lot of Rocky's who confirm this hearing, you know, this would be an adult, but you can go ahead and number five, appreciate it as well. Yeah. It's supposed to be a frequently, you know, it's a frequent case. You've heard this so many times. Likewise, when you get into situations, we talk about us the Crawley and the Beatles and The beaches? Eddie, it's not something that people will consider a conspiracy theory. It's not a theory anymore. They write about this. These things are in the books. Yeah, yeah. They have their own interviews. We don't have to try to try to say Oh, this oh, this is conspiracy theory. No, no, no, no, no. They have their statements. I'll give you
example, one of the guys from the beaches. He said one his spirit there was a spirit they used to come and speak to him. And when it started to speak to him in the beginning, he used to be fearful.
And then he became comfortable with it. And this is the spirit that used to help him write songs.
Yes, they used to write it used to help him write songs like this.
Michael, you know, so he's not here to. Yeah, he's not the only one. Many of these artists have confessed that yeah, they've come out I
used to use a community,
Kate with the spirits. And what we just described, if a person says spirits to a Muslim, they will automatically understand this, for Muslim that has the basics, basic basics of you know, the basics and knowledge would understand this to be the jinn right away.
Because we're talking about spirits, and Dr. Bill Phillips, I feel Allah has written books on the subject, it was actually his book that he translated by even Taymiyah. Seo, the JIT, this assists me in becoming a muslim. I read that book two times before I was a Muslim. And it made absolute sense to me.
Especially regarding the things I had experience in my life previously, regarding the, you know, things that are unseen, my family spoke about these things, so much. So understanding the journey wasn't something strange to me, it was it wasn't, it wasn't, you know, it wasn't strange at all. To me, if a person came to tell me, you know, can't speak to me about the gym. So when I saw it wasn't strange, but the point I'm making here is that spirits, you hear about spirits, we know as Muslims and not something that you know, where people are, a court could be referring to spirits of the dead. As we know, in Islam, the dead don't communicate with human beings, when they when they simply
walking around, etc. Certain things can happen in dreams, that's a whole different story. But when you're talking about being awake, people saying that, you know, they they're dead cousin came to visit them, etc. These are, these are nothing but the gym. These things are nothing but the gym, because, you know, the dead does, they don't commit, they they're not able to communicate in that way. So when you open yourself up to these things,
you open, you open yourself up to the gym, oh, man, he talks about something different happen. Every weekend, there's so many things that could arise as a result of this, I'm talking about even things such as certain mental conditions, it can be, you know, a person feeling like, for example, that they feel more feminine, all of a sudden, that person engaged is engaging and listen to music, this could have been the doorway, to that person feeling like that, because, because because if he's a male, he could have a female Genie within
the lights likes him. And as a result has entered into him. And he feels what more feminine, all of a sudden, or a female that feels all of a sudden, more, you know, masculine, all of a sudden.
Or they feel like they were they were they were, I mean, that's a skin tone, it can get into a whole different topic. As you can see, you know, we can, we can call it all different topic. But the point being is, when you engage in these things, your openness, you're definitely open yourself up. And it's clear, when you find that musicians themselves engaged in it willingly for assistance, look at that.
Many of them engaged in it willingly seeking assistance, as you've seen Napoleon speak about this before, but certainly pop groups etc. They engaged in this seeking assistance from the gym.
Some artists would say that I was not able to sing that night. For example, my voice was gone.
So my spirit
you know, my companion or my my, my alter ego took over for me that the Beyonce
we've there was a documentary that was a showing a lot of this stuff. And one of those they had clips of Beyonce actually talking about exactly what you're talking about Sasha Yeah. Okay, you've heard it. Sasha. Yes. Yeah. Who's Who's Sasha?
example, I mean,
Lusatia. I mean, you find them speaking about Raymond. Number of artists speaking about Raymond who's Raymond. Why they define Raymond Raymond? What are they seeking from Rain Man?
And like I said, it's no way there is no way you can just dismiss all of these accounts.
You know, this will be on you know, the highest level of Hadith science when you hear something so much, and it becomes so people speak
You bought so much, you know, it has a chain of transmission that's so long. You know, this is this is definitely the case here, you can't dismiss these claims, you simply can't dismiss. You cannot brothers and sisters, ladies and gentlemen, we're bringing you an expert in this area, former Def Jam artists, somebody again, who was playing multiple instruments, who knows the ins and outs exposing the music industry. And the deeper part of it that many people just don't think about, they don't really reflect, you know, just bobbing your head, you know, to the beach. And next to you know, you open yourself up to all these traumas and dramas, you know, you're wondering, Where is
this coming from? Why am I feeling a certain way mental health issues, you know, people are not connecting the dots, you know, and this gin possession, what you said about the sister happenings? You know, many cases like this, open yourself up, why open yourself up? Why you've, you've had people come out and testify, you know, to these things, you know, you have so many stories. So the question is, why do you think some some people I mean, that's one thing, you're Muslim, you know, your purpose in life, you know, right? This, the details about it, and you have some people who kind of run they for this experience, right? Doing the Weegee boards, and they're calling upon, it's
like, people who are running towards this connection with with the gym.
So you said why do you think people run to that connection? I think it's, yeah, yeah. What, what, what drives people? You know, you think a lot of times you have the fit that that drives you to your Creator. So if you're not taking this fitrah, and connecting it to the Creator, now you got people trying to connect to all sorts of things, even the jinn? Yes, I think one of the things that that connects them, honestly, Eddie, is music, I think it was back back back back to back to the today, we're gonna use it is the number one thing that drives them to want to wanting to have that connection. Imagine if you were here, let's look at the opposite. Imagine a person that just grew up
here, and they've never heard music a day in their life before. And of course, it's very hard to find that this day and age, maybe have to go to some remote place, perhaps a more Italian, for example, when they're out in the desert, and you may be able to find a person has never heard music a day in his life, you know, as possible.
So that person is going to be striving to get closer to who they want to take want to be striving to get closer to Allah in a situation like that. Because they're always hearing his speech, they're always listened to listening to the speech of Allah, they recite it. Likewise, a person that grows up
in a household, for example, my household,
Bob Marley was being played, Stevie Wonder was being played, Michael Jackson was being played, Marvin Gaye was being played James Brown, all of these people were being played in the home. So as a result, I became what I started, what are the young age, singing, dancing, plan issues,
because of what the environment that I was brought up.
If my family was adopted was a family of doctors, Eddie, chances are,
you know, I'm going to take on that family role as well, I'm going to take on that same, that same profession,
that same profession, most likely I'm going to become a doctor as well, if the whole family
you know, I even saw one guy who stopped to talk about how his family all of them were police officers. So as a result, you know, he became a police officer. Even though his dream was to go to the NFL, he did, he ended up getting injured, and ended up going to going to become one police officer.
So likewise, if your environment is soaked in is deeply you know, it's deeply soaked in, you know, with, you know, music is soaked in the environment. And that's the reality of especially in the West. And in this area, it's almost everywhere now,
where music is soaked into these environments.
Even you look in any Muslim country,
where music has been
placed. Now people don't have the have the ability to listen to music on their smartphone, their tablets, their iPhone, you know, the iPads, whatever it is, they have the ability now to listen to music in these places. I guarantee you see more facade in these places now more, more more, more evil that has taken place now in those environments guaranteed as a result, and I guarantee you can look at the statistics, and they will tell you that is not something you don't have to listen to me. 100% of the people don't have to listen to me. I would encourage you to take my advice.
However, just look at the statistics.
Even in Muslim countries where music is entered
the youth when they're coming up, they become so distracted by
you know, and it has formed a different character within these individuals.
It has raised up different individuals versus the past, when people were engaging, and listening to listening to,
You will see, it's clear. I'm going to push back a little bit and just go ahead and
give you some questions that someone might, you know, think be thinking because they might have have had someone who's gone overseas who studied he's now a American mom, who's a someone who's a scholar, they take as and he says, Look, it's no problem, because we're identifying with the culture, Rakim or somebody other, you know, common sense somebody, some of these other rappers out there is nothing wrong with it. They're not singing, like, you know, you can't compare them to 50 cents, or some of the other Cisco, you know, these are the kinds of things I grew up listening to. This is a mom now. And he's saying like, Hey, this is okay. How would you respond to that?
Very good question. And
as I was mentioning to a young, young man, even yesterday,
I've had these discussions or certain scholars,
that was a scholar of Sierra, for example, that I spoke to.
And see people try to eliminate the effects of the music itself. They try to eliminate that from the conversations, and they try to remove that from the conversation. And they try to focus just on lyrical content. No, it's not about that. Let's go to jazz. We're not hearing novel lyrics at all. We're just hearing a band play, for example, many of the jazz musicians, Eddie, we're known to engage with
many of the jazz musicians, many of you know, the top jazz musicians, musicians,
musicians of the past, they were known to engage in certain practices with the gym. Outside of that, let's say they never engaged with the metal.
Music itself. Eddie, like I said, as Allah mentions, plus and bad effects in quantum let on the moon in regards to this issue, and who are the extra people of knowledge?
If you don't know,
if you don't know something? And in regards to this question, many of the people that are, you know, are quote unquote, scholars. In certain fields, they're not scholars in this field.
People like myself and
Dr. Phillips, for example, shake me out, spoke about how he himself used to be a musician. We understand these things on a different level, it's hard to explain to someone, but even when you're speaking to me about music, like I mentioned to you, I spoke to the the had a discussion with a scholar of Sierra, in the past, in the UK, and I'll give you a prime example.
And I asked the chef, because he, he was he asked me what is wrong with this? So why did you stop playing guitar? Because my whole show that I did was based on
transformation, how I got away from playing guitar, etc. He said I don't understand what's the issue with this. And he wanted to the Arabic terms that were used in the past he said notice is not really related to music mas if it's not related to music, etc, he wanted to the things
you know, from from an Arabic language he wanted to it, he addressed it from an Arabic language standpoint. So I flipped it on.
I started speaking about the effects
of it. And this is what I normally do, rather than going into the Seuss going into going into the text itself. Sometimes I speak about it from a from a effects standpoint, I believe in my Muhammad Rahim Allah, he's to speak about it from this angle as well. So as to share, I said shift.
How long did it take you to memorize Quran because by the way, he brought up a point he said, My son plays guitar, just like you still to this day. And anyone I want to say is gonna shock you. So I said [???], and he and I had a long walk. We were walking around in London.
Having a discussion. He was very confident about what he had to say in the beginning. But I will explain later what ended up happening. So I asked the chef, okay, a chef, how long did it take you to
memorize the Quran.
He said it took me about two or three years keep in mind he is an auto. So when you understand what is being said it should, you should be able to memorize the Quran much, much faster. So it is general generally speaking, Allah knows best. He said it took him about two or three years to memorize the Quran.
I said what about your son? Because he mentioned by the way that his son started memorizing Quran, it shortly after he started learning how to play, play the plague and play the guitar.
He said I said so what about your son? How long did it take him him to memorize the Quran already knew the answer before he said Subhan SubhanAllah.
He said his son has never finished.
I said [???], you mean to tell me after 16 years.
From the time your son started memorizing Quran, it is an auto.
He has a fitness the Quran.
The chef, as I said to you, what I'm going to say at the end is going to shock you the shed, he came in, in the conversation very confident, he left the conversation with me shaking his head out of confusion.
He was confused because he realized that his son had not memorized
what I was trying to explain to my sous chef but the reason your son has never finished and finished the Quran is because he was learning he was playing guitar at the same time. And those two things can't mix in the hearts
they cannot mix an art
and Edie from my experience living in Egypt for example, Egypt is a place upon Allah where you find so many fun there is so many people that have memorized the Quran in Asia.
So, whenever I will get into a car with a taxi driver, if I found him listening to music, I will kindly ask him Brother, can you kindly turn off the music Sharla Luffy and he will do so and then I will engage in conversation with him. I will ask him I will say Brother You know I will ask them how you know when he started listening to music etc.
etc. And I would ask him how much of the Quran key how much of the Quran he had memorized.
in a place like Egypt
where I said there are so many people that have memorized the Quran in Egypt.
Quran is like drinking water. memorize the Quran is like drinking water in Egypt. You will go on the bus and you will see oh man resigning on the bus like closely.
You will see him reciting sounded like [???] oh, sorry, right Allah. And he will just be sitting on a bus resigning while the people are watching in amazement. That is the culture of Egypt is beautiful.
And every single time that I've spoken to someone that was listening to music as a taxi driver, and I asked him how much Quran is he memorize? He would tell me three or four sources, and he will be referring to the small source in the Quran.
don't we see? The clear example? Isn't it? Isn't it clear to us? Yeah, the effects of music that's really deep.
This is the shape. That's the shape that you were talking to. So he was an advocate because his son was learning how to play the guitar. He was an advocate. And he was asking me why why did you stop playing guitar? There's nothing wrong with that.
And when he engaged in conversation with me when he and I converse regarding this issue.
He was completely confused afterwards, after he actually saw the loss effects now he spoke to the light light bulb went on now like my his his son, he's memorized Subhanallah Yes. You know, in sha Allah, hopefully I opened up something for him, hopefully open up for a lot of people because it doesn't it doesn't
happen. So you said it happened so many times. It's happened so many times to me when people engage with gays in this conversation with me. And they leave leave leave confused because the reality is that, you know, the truth is going to stand clear for falsehood.
Cut the bay you know, rushman Ave, is going to Allah is going to make the truth set clear from the falsehood.
That's what's going to be clear. So if you ask a person of knowledge regarding this issue, he will clear it he will clearly understand like look, okay, now the information you're brought to me. Now my opinion is a bit different. Now I see where you're coming from. Perhaps some of the some of the quote unquote scholars or people of knowledge maybe they have not spoken to a person of knowledge in this
you know, they have not spoken to a person of knowledge from this field, which kind of clouds their judgment. Me personally, I don't see how they can dismiss the clear narrations, the clear text regarding this issue in Islam. I don't see how they got away from that first. And if you go ahead, you know, you don't know how they got to finish your thought. But being that they escaped that being that they want to put that to the side, right?
Then you have to come speak to someone such as myself, or others that have engaged in this practice, you have to come and speak to us because then we will clear up the misconceptions.
Anytime you sit with a scholar and area, someone that has mastered something, you sit with that person, if you have even if you even if right now, if I have an issue, if there's an I want to understand that I'm having an issue, understanding the first thing I'm going to do, I'm going to go speak to a specialist in TFC. I'm going to go find one of the one of the scholars here in Gambia that have specialized tapsee. And I'm going to get him a sous chef, can you explain this to me explain this idea to me, because I'm having a hard time understanding, or I want to get a deeper insight into what this time means. I'm going to go access specialist with Epstein.
Likewise, in the area
of such as music, you know, someone has to ask someone who specializes in that area.
So they can clear up these misconceptions. And I encourage, you know, every any well known speaker, whoever it may be, come speak to me.
I challenged them always do.
Come and challenge. Challenge me in, you know, regarding
the permissibility of music, and perhaps you're always shaking your head. And this is not to boast. It's just something that Allah has blessed me with. I feel confident
in discussing this matter with people. I feel very confident there is no, I have no doubt. There's no doubt in my mind that music is not permissible. I have zero doubt.
You know, someone could be up against the fence.
I'm not I'm not to get not up against the fence in regards to musical issues. Forget about the lyrical content, I said, you don't even have to add the lyrical content and
understand the effects of it even without lyrics being involved. Now, even if now, now let's get to the issue of what some scholars have said about music. Generally speaking,
let's go to the more liberal side, right?
Even if you go to the more liberal side, and this gives you an indication adding that people just unfortunately, there are a lot we ask Allah subhanaw taala to assist us all. As I said earlier, we're all under construction. We are all under construction, until we go to the grave.
We are all under construction.
And we are striving to be better individuals every day.
with that being said, we we see something
such as music, and spiral law you you can't you can't it's
the reality here, you can't. As we said you can't dismiss many of the arguments, many of the things that take place.
This can last my thoughts. But
you are going on before we conclude we got a few minutes left you were mentioning the liberal scholars. Ah, yes.
The liberal scholars in this regard, let's take the most liberal team
that there's nothing wrong with music, musical instruments, and you can listen to anyone you want to listen to. Without, you know, as long as the lyrics are good. That's the most liberal liberal opinion that I've heard.
It gives you this gives you the gives you the example. It shows you
people people unfortunately, they want to follow their desires. The reason I say that you have not heard a single scholar, not even the most liberal people that say you can listen to Jay Z, or Beyonce, or Rihanna
or any of these artists you have you have not heard a single Scholar so you can listen to them. That's across the board. Now we can end that debate. There's nothing no one just get that out of your mind. I'm not heard of the most liberal. I've never heard of them saying you can listen to them. Because all of them are talking about CNET. And alcohol drugs or whatever it may be. Well, you know, so I've never heard of a person say you can listen to them. So it shows you how unfortunately we as human beings, we tend to follow our desires.
When we want to follow what Allah subhanaw taala revealed and not do without us to crawl the mansion, which many people are preaching
to us do do what you want to do in other words and Modern Standard English there was no well yeah there's a human being does die well,
we find many brands out there actually promoted that was kind of dial up which is the complete opposite. Well masala to the Jinda will insert in laelia.
Allah says that he has not created the gym, nor mankind except that they should do what worshiping
Allah subhanaw taala mentions also
under the helical motorworld hired, they have a local a Yukon us and Wamena that Allah has created death in life, to see which which one of us are best in doing good deeds
are best a lot in say the ones that I can do that can do the most deeds. Allah said the ones that are doing the best deeds and laminate. So that means it must be done with sand there's conditions A person must be seeking the absolute pleasure of Allah is flawless. And it must be done according to the Sunnah of the prophets of Allah he was suddenly. So where does seeking your own desires come into play?
When you're talking about this, this game of the dunya, trying to seek this this life, trying to seek the pleasure of the Almighty Creator. So you can enter into the agenda, the power dies. This This life is nothing but a deceiving enjoyment. So we're here only
only to seek the pleasure of Almighty God as a lot clearer to define for us what is the purpose of life?
What he said, Well, my what my noble insight is.
I have not created general mankind except that they should worship.
So that's what we have here on this planet. That's what it happened not long. But hey, this is what you you've been calling people to for many years on the D show, to come to the worship of the Creator of the heavens and earth and distance yourself from the worship of the creation.
staying away from worshipping the creation and that includes yourself, your own desires.
As Allah mentions, have you not seen the one the English translation Allah says, Have you not seen the one that made his desires? A law besides besides he has made this his desires a lot
his rope he's made it this his desires his Object of Worship his inner
you understand? So?
This should this this show us a lot about the plots of music, the plots, etc. Because when you look at the concept of idol, American Idol, what are they doing? Anything's clear. They're making these people what what it wasn't what is an idol? And idol is an object of worship, worship. Yes. Do you direct your worship to
so what would people want Michael Jackson, they were worshipping Michael Jackson.
So when you modern modern is your idol, modern day worship? Yes, the person. People will let's let's let's be honest. And when people used to meet Michael Jackson, or when he's performing, people will be facing their audits.
People will be facing crying profusely when when I meet Michael Jackson. You understand? When the Beatles were performing? People will be going crazy. They were worshipping them.
What Allah says
in May should be not
from Allah, Allah Allah in gender
and who may should be Allah subhana wa Tada mentions that the person who dies and he has made partners with Allah.
Allah has made the paradise forbidden for that person.
When met Wow. And that person's place is in the Hellfire
Well, we'll forgive anything other than that. There is this out there as always, you know.
There's always Allah, Allah always leaves hope for the people.
Because Allah says that he forgives anything other than that, we all feel mad Duna that in another verse.
Allah says that he forgives anything other than shirt other than making partners with him. He forgives anything other than that. So if a person dies as long as they
Not many ship with Allah, they have a chance and this should give people a person delights, they have a chance even though we want to, we want to strive to be the best. But if a person dies drinking alcohol person dies committed, see that person even dies listening to music, Inshallah, they still have the opportunity to enter the gym. You know they Allah can punish them if He wills or Allah can choose to choose to let them be without punishing them.
But if a person dies committed shirk will allow.
Allah has forbidden the paradise for that person
and music to listen to music, and I say this to connect the dots listening to music can lead to any fog, it can lead to hypocrisy in the heart. This is another danger in music.
Because it can lead to hypocrisy.
A person having hypocrisy in the heart and then leaving the fold of Islam and end up that person can end up committing Schick or making partners with Allah and I've seen this on multiple occasions we have service
Subhanallah Allah it is a scary situation scary Oh my God Almighty Allah the critic protect us from that and inshallah this could be a benefit mandatory watching for the father mother who are facing this issue son comes to his father daughter comes at wise music haram mandatory watching or for the people who are intelligent University whatever sit down and watch this and with an open heart open mind and inshallah this can be of great benefit thank you so much. Now let us like the last time we left you left us with something be so beautiful some Quran would you can we
before we end can you go ahead also and recite some Quran for us? Yes, yes it will be it will be my pleasure inshallah. This time I will I will open up the
the most half of the phone show could be from the show
we can recite a Beautify. Now we have ladies and gentlemen former Def Jam musician went from playing with all the different famous celebrities musicians to now being someone who submitted his will to the credit of heavens and earth is living his true purpose and he's going to recite some of the verbatim Word of God Almighty gonna get to hear it maybe for the first time now. This is the words of the Creator now compare how that will make you feel compared to all the other stuff that's making your heart race and and god knows what else is doing to you.
Now there's a wonderful verse
wonderful sort of
monologue when people hear this I believe
really has a wonderful effect effect on the hearts of the people because Allah subhanaw taala spoke speaks about a time where
they probably weren't even thought of
people in you know we didn't even know ourselves last panel down speaks about this
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Thank you. Thank you very much, brother. Thank you very much it was an honor having you again on the program. Tell us now you also have started in Gambia, you're doing some wonderful work in the last couple of minutes that we have tell us about, you know, someone who went from leading the former life used to live to actually dedicating your life to making a difference in the world. You know, tell us about my work
as people can see, one of our one of the missions, I would say,
my top mission, most my top missions in this dunya now is, is helping people to connect to the book of Allah subhanaw taala. And here at Hamdulillah we have a girl school. Here in Gambia, we have over 100 Students Hamdulillah. And these students are young girls memorizing the book of Allah.
Every day, sunup to sundown, analyzing the book of Allah, and becoming better individuals, they learn in the religion becoming better individuals in the society. And it's amazing. It's amazing how even some of the parents here how they are so appreciative, appreciative, you may find parents here that have not memorized ground themselves, or they may not even be, I will say strong practicing Muslims, but yet they are bringing their children so they know even the most simple Muslim, the simplest of Muslims, they know that they know how important how important the Quran is.
They know how important it is. So they wish for their children to memorize the Quran. They wish with the children to memorize Quran. And the effects you see the it has, it has a major effect and on the on the on the parents themselves, when they see their children memorizing planning. It's amazing. It's really amazing here, and Hamdulillah, where we're finishing up one of our buildings, finishing up the construction here in the area costs Tanya, and Gambia, and Hamdulillah. We're looking forward to moving into that building, hopefully in some time, sometime in late, once all of the funds have been raised in sha Allah. And we plan to move the girls from the current location
to a better location where it's more spacious. And it's more it's more of a long time long term location because the actual founders of the organization actually own that land. And so it's a huge it's a huge profit, huge project
humbler if someone wanted to contribute or support? Is there a means ways I can do that? Yes, we can. What we'll do is shot let's share some information with you. That way you can be able to share with others in sha Allah. But a website is currently going through it's under construction at the moment, but we shall out with the next few weeks should be ready to even maybe receive donations on the website as well.
All right, brother, thank you once again for sharing your insights. We've got an expert on exposing the effects of what's happening in this industry that many people are following and hopefully like God Almighty, Allah tells us go to the experts. We brought the expert in this area. So hopefully any moms or shares or anybody has some doubts of something, you know,
they're offered a challenge. So
Watch this and also we can make the connection so we can clear these doubts because the truth is clear and hum did it thank you so much May Allah bless you installments
Salam aleikum Tala while you sit down on the label the cat