Jewish Journalist EXPOSES the Lies of I$RAEL How Piers Morgan & Chris Cuomo Are Repeating the Lies
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Well, as all of your audience probably can already tell I'm Jewish greetings of peace. My next guest Max Blumenthal declare that he's fighting human animals in Gaza as Israel cuts off the gas, the water and the electricity and I went to Hebrew school during the 1980s.
Long live Israel, God Bless America guys out here to support Israel. Yep. radical Muslim must be defeated unless we're going to all ruin the whole western civilization because Israel is for Jews since the beginning of the Bible. That's number one. Number two, the Arabs have no right to be there forcing us to kill their children to defend our children. Yes. How much do we have to bomb them before there's peace?
Yeah, how many schools do we have to blow up before there's peace?
Well, we have advanced technology. Israel knows what schools Hamas is hiding it correct. And then they blow up the whole school. They very intelligent. Yes, they are making bombs under the desks Exactly. Those who are dying are suffering God's wrath. But but we don't I seem like a good Joo young seemed like a good job. But who am I to judge? The Editor in Chief of the gray zone Max Blumenthal is an award winning journalist and the author of several books, Max has contributed to the New York Times, Los Angeles Times and much more now. Being the award winning journalist that he is, he's debunked much of the atrocity propaganda that we still keep hearing over and over again,
that's fueling the continued push for modern genocide. And for k right before our very eyes, all human life is precious. And this needs to stop. So for example, I'm gonna go ahead and play this clip from our friend Piers Morgan. And let's listen to this and then we'll bring on Max Blumenthal to go and cover this Now Terry is proof that they talk to women and children, civilians? pacifically. Well, I'll tell you the proof. What's the proof? You will all the GoPro videos? Oh, you don't think you have all the GoPro videos? So also like the doctor, you deny Oh, no, no. Videos, journalists, I will authenticate to the videos. I've seen the videos. But show me the proof that
women and children was specifically targeted, as opposed to they will naturally burned alive. Okay, where's the proof people were beheaded. Get babies were killing me one child, one child was beheaded, namely one child that was beheaded. And I will mourn and condemned with you. I just said, Pete, Amy. I didn't say a child primary object. No, no. So just to be clear, to be clear, like the doctor, you do not believe that anyone was beheaded that children were killed. Let me clarify where I'm wrong here. Where are these things happening?
Israeli civilians were killed. How many?
More Craig doesn't even know. We need to ask? How many we know at least
around 400 soldiers, so we're assuming 800 civilians were killed. And we know at least at least another 200 Odd civilians were taken hostage by Israel. And ladies and gentlemen, brothers and sisters. Max Blumenthal. How are you doing? Max? Good. Good to see you. Good to have you on interesting intro. I forgot. I've written for the New York Times and was allowed to do that once upon a time. Yeah. So you have an extensive history. You're doing what journalism should be all about spreading the truth, and highlighting the truth. But you've also debunked a lot of things that many people are seeing, it's not the truth. And there's an example with Piers Morgan, what was your
reaction to that?
Well, just because Piers Morgan doesn't know something doesn't mean that it's not true. And that's the way he operates. He has this kind of
a tendency to impose his own prejudices onto reality. And then to use his image as a sort of objective newsman to make his guests seem like lunatics. And his guests, when he met tries to make them seem lunatics. They often happen to be activists, or Muslims or people out of the mainstream. So they just don't appear objective to his audience. It's all a series of sort of psychological tricks he's using. And
was that Daley? Hussein, who is his guest? Yes. You know, delete. Yeah, I honestly, he could have done a better job. He could have been more clinical
in point in providing concrete examples of Israel killing its own citizens and citing Israeli media. And that's sort of what but I mean, it's an it's an important for it's important for him to raise that issue in front of a mainstream audience, but that's what I've been doing at the grey zone and what other independent outlets have been doing is just giving people who have this sense that what happened on October 7,
is not only shrouded in mystery, but represents a series of distortions that were used and deployed in order to create political space for this, on this just on this despicable genocide that we see playing out before our eyes. And so what we're doing is we're providing, you know, it's you have a sandwich of skepticism, you have the breads laid out, and we're providing the deli meats for you. Translating the Hebrew news pieces news packages, where they're actually for the first time this week showing tanks shelling Israeli homes in Kibbutz Barry, we're over 100 Israeli non combatants were killed there showing the tanks in those communities during the day, shelling those homes. We've
also been able to
provide turret translations of Israeli eyewitnesses who witnessed Israeli tanks after it grew dark. So a separate tank shelling a civilian home knowing that that home was filled with 15 Israeli hostages, including two children, who were 12 years old twins that had throny twins who were killed by that Israeli tank who have been used as poster children, by the Israeli leadership.
As examples of you know, Hamas savagery. And that's not to say that Hamas militants didn't kill civilians on October 7, that there's this video documenting that. But we don't know how many people Israel killed and the number seems to be very high, considering the heavy weapons they were using. How did you What led you down this path of journalism? Because you have many journalists, they're not even as I understand correctly, they're not even allowed to go into without escorts Is that correct? Correct me if I'm ever wrong here. They're not allowed. They needed a company with the IDF. And how did you and then you go against the narrative and you put your career on the line? How did
you are you talking about how did I get into Gaza? Or how did you just start reporting on Gaza? Like so before this happened? You were actually reporting on this, and you were on the ground? Is that correct? Yeah. Well, I'm, as
all of your audience probably can already. Tell them Jewish, one of your partners also, who helped make the film killing Gaza. I interviewed him. He's also Jewish. That's very interesting. I had no idea you're Jewish also. Well, there are plenty of us who Wow or disgust were disgusted by Dan Cohen. Who was Dan Cohen. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he grew up in a much more all immersive Jewish experience than I did. But you know, I grew up in Washington, DC. And I, you know, I went to Hebrew school during the 1980s and 90s. And, you know, the First Intifada broke out around that time, I wasn't heavily indoctrinated into Zionism. But I wound up going on the birthright Israel trip later
in life when I was 22. And that's a free trip that all Jews 18 to 25 get to go to Israel. And that really showed me
what the propaganda version of Israel that was presented to me what they wanted me to believe about Israel. But the complete contrast between the the worldview of Israelis and mine, you know, I remember my guide, sitting me down because I had made some sort of humanistic statements. And the second intifada was about to break out. And then she said, we have to see all different groups, and religions and races as circles. And we have to take our circle and put it above all those other circles. And it was sort of like, opening it sort of began this process of of gradual black pilling and red pilling. First of all, I'm never going to be able to be a Zionist, which means I'm going to
be cut off from much of my community. And I'm going to be woken up to, you know, what the reality the reality that Palestinians are living in, I'd never met a Palestinian by that point. And then I got into journalism because of the post 911 era.
Just seeing the lies that Americans were consuming constantly, as the so called War on Terror was declared, and then the invasion of Iraq.
going to lead the US and the region into a terrible abyss. And so I started doing journalism just about the Bush administration and about the Christian right. And the neoconservatives. And all along I was, you know, following the situation in Israel Palestine, waiting for the day when I could actually make my move and start to educate Americans about the real Israel they didn't know that came after my first
Book which happened to just sort of be a best seller, which was more about the Republican Party of George W. Bush. And I said, I said to my publisher, I said, I just gave you a best seller. You didn't expect that at all. How about you give me the opportunity to write a book about Israel. And they agreed, miraculously. And I said, Okay, I'm going to take a trip there, scope things out, I took a trip, went to Jerusalem, Tel Aviv, the West Bank, this was 2009, I started covering the unarmed struggle in the West Bank, where Palestinians and villages that were cut off by the apartheid wall, were beginning this sort of popular struggle that wasn't being covered in the West
that cut against the grain of the image of Palestinians as suicide bombers and terrorists, and they're simply defending their land, being arrested in their beds. I got to know Israeli society. I remember the night of Obama's speech in Cairo, his sort of speech to the Arab world, which should now be looked back, look back at as sort of a moment of infamy. I went out on the streets of Jerusalem to ask
Jewish Israelis and Jewish Americans what they thought of the speech. And each one of them unleashed this genocidal tirade, right on camera, and I found all these bars were drunk and Jewish Americans were coming out, and just telling me how they wanted to assassinate Obama, and how Netanyahu was going to take care of them and how Israel was going to take care of him if he pushed ahead with peace with the Palestinians. And they said, he's a Muslim, and all the all of that I put that video out on YouTube was like, You know what, I mean, I was already doing all these viral YouTube videos about the Christian right or Christian Zionist. So I had a fairly strong channel. And within two
hours at 500,000 views, it was blowing up. Black America was seeing the video and they were disgusted, it was reported on local New York news, because a lot of these kids were from Long Island. And then next thing I know, YouTube took the takes the video offline, it was censored on every channel, I was like one of the first victims of the censorship industrial complex for exposing the racism of Israeli society. But that kind of set the stage for the book that I was going to do, which was called Goliath, which really, if you if you pick up my book ally of life and Loathing in Greater Israel, which came out in 2013, it will really show you the help you understand the basis
for how Israelis are so indoctrinated that they can cut off hundreds of lives with the push of a button, knowing that they're going to kill dozens of babies with one bombing, and feel good about themselves the next day, the book is a trip into it's a journey into the heart of Jewish Israeli society, and I use my privilege as an American Jew, you know, I'm treated with special privilege in Israeli society, to be able to get access to that. And I subsequently did another book called the 51 Day War, which is about Israel's assault on Gaza in 2014. And I got
press access from the Israeli government to be able to go in then. And at that point, you didn't need to be like embedded with the Israeli military. They weren't even there. At that point. They were just bombing from the air through drones and so on. They just handed me a card and said, Go ahead. They were handing them out, like, like candy at that point. So I got to be under the bombing, that people in Gaza Experience Day after day, and I got to be in the rubble. And you know, I started filming that documentary you mentioned with Dan Cohen killing Gaza, which is free online. And I've been covering ISRAEL PALESTINE ever since. At the gray zone, what we do is we unpack the propaganda
that daily pages, Western media consumers day after day pro war propaganda, pro interventionist propaganda, and we help people understand the other side. And we also go to countries that are targets of Western regime change operations, including in Latin America, like we've done a lot in Venezuela, Nicaragua, Bolivia, places where the US does not want these countries to be independent and have access to their own resources. And with October 7, it pulled me back in TO ISRAEL PALESTINE back into this maelstrom in a much more intense way than I've ever experienced. Like all Western journalists, I can't go to Gaza. I don't even know if Israel will let me in at this point, because
I've kind of been marked. So I'm just sitting here at home in Washington, DC, unpacking the propaganda and helping people understand how they're basically being tricked into supporting a genocide. Let's get into this next clip. And you probably are going to recognize this individual and he's talking about some video that the general public hasn't seen. We've seen some of it, but this is like some private, private session for journalists. I want to see if you know
Have you seen this video? Like I said, today's been a heavy day, Tom, because three of us went to the Israeli consulate to watch some of the footage that we've never seen these images and media, a lot of it raw, some of it. They did some editing to to identify things of what happened in the massacre on October 7 47 minutes long. Now, some of it I have seen before and you can find it online. A lot more than I expected, was new to me. I realized something that I had missed before. Okay. It took me immediately and deeply into a past trauma. The exact feeling that I had when I learned why 911 happened. Charred reminders of a holocaust. The obvious desire to see as many Jews
utterly destroyed as possible. Families melted together on purpose. And yes, there are women
dead bloody groins, twisted disfigured legs. The IDF says this is not a morbid coincidence. It's a part of a pattern of rape and torture. Well, before we even started you, you had a little reaction.
You're from your
last party is the last part of your you're familiar with como?
Yeah, Chris Cuomo, I'm very familiar with he was fired by CNN and he's on this network of like the husband's who've all been fired.
With Bill O'Reilly he was fired because he was helping his brother Andrew Cuomo. Right. You know, prepare messaging during the COVID event, when Andrew Cuomo was like getting an Emmy Award for his daily press conferences, and it was all this giant performance and he's promoting his brother as complete nepotism. Cuomo is also one of the like thickest, mentally Ficus people on the on the air, there's a lot of competition there. If you look at his Instagram, all he does is lift weights, you don't see him reading books or engaging with intelligent people in any way. It's just him, showcasing his muscles and showing off in the gym where he spends like four hours a day. And you can
see that he was an easy dupe for the Israeli government. They brought him into a 47 minute screening they've been bringing in so called journalists to an Off the record so called screening where you're not allowed to really disclose the details of what you see, you're only allowed to refer on background generally, to what you see, you're not really allowed to ask questions as a journalist, and you're not allowed to videotape or take photos of the proceedings. So why would any journalist allow themselves into that kind of Clockwork Orange style propaganda complex? If there are real journalists? They wouldn't. And what Chris Cuomo is describing at the end, is seeing the remnants of
corpses who were hit by Hellfire missiles by Israeli helicopters on their way
from southern Israel to Gaza, or just simply while being in their cars.
In Israel, some of them may have even been trying to escape from the Nova electronic music festival. It is confirmed fact that Israeli Apache helicopters killed many people in their vehicles and while walking on the fields. This is not this is not some conspiracy theory or something. This is confirmed fact. I mean, that is confirmed by an Israeli police investigation which was reported in Haaretz it's confirmed by
abductees who had been freed from Gaza Israeli abductees who complained about Israeli Apache helicopters shooting at their vehicles. While they were heading into Gaza. They complain to Netanyahu was faced during a war cabinet meeting earlier this month, it was reported in the Israeli newspaper why net? We have video of the helicopters hitting cars. And we have testimony by the helicopter pilots about how they couldn't determine who is Israeli or Palestinian on the ground. But they had to, in their words, empty the tank of their ammunition they had absolutely no intelligence. And if you look at the images, for example, from the Highway of Death from the first Iraq war, when
the US Air Force incinerated a large part of the Iraqi military as it retreated from Kuwait, which was a war crime, you'll see this they look the corpses and the cars look almost identical to those in the so called Gaza envelope of southern Israel on October 7. There's no way that the weapons that Hamas militants brought in could have done that kind of comprehensive damage to bodies were there
melted into parts of cars that Hellfire missile can do. And in one case, I mean, this is gonna sound kind of rabbit hole. But this is something I was able to figure out, I actually had to take it out of one of my articles because it was just there. There's too many details. But you might be familiar with the story of how
this so called Israeli rescuer named Ellie beer, went to a Republican Jewish Coalition fundraiser in Las Vegas and claimed that his rescue group on October 7, found a baby baked in an oven. The story really got around totally fake.
The organization itself is even sort of retracted. That story when they were asked by the Israeli newspaper Haaretz, it comes from someone in his organization who said that they found body parts that had been
melted into a heating element, you know, the kind of heating element you'd have in an oven. And they found those body parts at this kind of military base slash field hospital Israel setup.
In an Israeli city called rom lay, where they analyze all of the evidence and corpses of October 7. Okay, the heating element was actually a car seat that has springs in it that are shaped like a heating element, and somebody was hit by hellfire missile, which led their skin to melt into the car seat. And then the that piece of body part was taken to this Israeli field hospital where they basically saw it and said, Oh, my God, this looks like someone was baked in an oven. Let's just say that to invoke the Holocaust. So Chris Cuomo is just being treated to these images. And they're telling him, they may be even guiding him through it. He has the IQ of a toaster oven himself. And
he's uncapable of critical thought or skepticism. And so he then says, This is 911. This was genocide. And he actually thinks that the US response to 911 was successful and positive. The US response to 911 was a first of all a military failure, because he remember the US retreated from Afghanistan and lost to the Taliban. In one of the most disastrous military withdrawal since Vietnam, Has he forgotten that? Has he forgotten the entire military response was a failure, and that the only successful possibility was a police action against Osama bin Laden at Tora Bora, which itself failed. So everything Chris Cuomo saying there is false and this is what the American media
consumers are being treated to, which is why there was a poll link taken by Harvard last week, which found that the majority of Americans think Hamas is determined to commit genocide, and only about 35% think Israel has the intention of doing that. Let's get into this next clip here. Get your reaction to
Used to defeat them used to kill them. And one thing I saw is that whether you live in the north or the south of Israel, whether you're religious or secular, everyone agreed and united, we can no longer embrace this being Mr. Nice Guy, to the people who are in Gaza, because this is over 1000 years of mothers teaching their children grow up and kill Jews grow up and kill Jews. It's the mindset. They're trying to paint this narrative that Muslims just in tremendously, they're intrinsically they're taught, you know, to hate Jews. I have a lot of Jewish friends that I've had on the program, you might know some orthodox rabbis. I don't know if you've heard of MIKO Pillet
Rabbi Weiss, right, Shapiro, and they differentiate clearly Zionism between Zionism and Judaism and they say that Judaism has been hijacked by Zionism and now they're trying to paint this picture to the to the mainstream audience and she's repeating the same thing that this is their survival they are going to be killed by Muslims if they don't go ahead if they put down if they stop what do you hear as a Jewish man when you hear this?
Well, 1000 years ago Jews and Muslims were getting along fairly well and you know, my mind at ease was corresponding with it been rushed.
In the end to Lucien experience, wasn't anything like the European experience with Michelle Bachman
you know is in
Chris Cuomo maybe below Chris Cuomo is intelligence quotient
believes that Palestinian mothers have been raising their children to hate Jews for 1000 years.
She doesn't even I guess, remember the Christian crusades where Jews and Muslims actually resisted the Christian
onslaught in Jerusalem. She knows nothing about history. She's at Charlie Kirk's conferences recent conference, which is sort of conservative conservatism Incorporated. It's basically corporate conservatism. And she went on to deliver a tirade, they're calling for everyone in Gaza to be ethnically cleansed full on ethnic cleansing, and to turn Gaza into some kind of nature. Reserve one second, let me let the audience here hear that because they have one industry in Gaza. And that's terrorism. So it's time that Gaza ends, the 2 million people who live there. They're clever assassins, they need to be removed from that land, that land needs to be turned into a national
park. And since they're the voluntary mercenaries for Iran, they need to be dropped on the doorstep of Iran. Let Iran deal with those people is that she's pretty much saying to 2 million people, I mean, half of which are children that they need to be removed needs to be made a national power. How do you interpret that?
Yeah, I mean, she's calling for genocide. And the irony is she has been appointed as dean. This is a former member of Congress from Minnesota who is a very prominent member of the Christian right.
And she has been appointed as dean of Pat Robertson's Regent University, pat robertson being one of the most prominent
televangelists in American history and con artists and believers in Christian Zionism, the belief that, you know, the Messiah will descend onto Jerusalem after all of the Jews are gathered in the land of Israel, and the unclean Herot heretical Muslims and Christians are removed.
Because they actually don't believe Palestinian Christians are really Christian because they're not born again in the blood of Christ. They're Orthodox Christian. So Michelle Bachman comes from that mold. She's been appointed the dean of a university in America, and she is explicitly calling for genocide in public. And you have all of these campus. Presidents at the same time from the ivy League's being hauled before Congress, who have never said anything in favor of genocide, being asked to condemn hypothetical calls for genocide that have never happened on their campuses. And one from my alma mater, the University of Pennsylvania has already lost her job as a result of her kind
of wishy washy answer about a hypothetical call for genocide that never happened.
Harvard president is next she's on the chopping block. So that's fine. She can call for genocide. There's because because
it's genocide against Palestinians. And, you know, there's more to it. Charlie Kirk poses as an America First conservative conservative, he's sort of supposed to be one of the grassroots leaders of the Trump movement, but his entire career is owed to the Israel lobby. His first speaking tours were originally funded by the David Horowitz Freedom Center, which is entirely funded by billionaire Zionists.
So he has he owes his career to a lobby that supports an apartheid state 5000 miles away, and yet he's posing as America first. And as a Christian, he's refused to condemn the assaults on St. For furious church in Gaza, one of the oldest churches in the world, a fifth century Orthodox church. He's refused to condemn Israeli snipers, killing women outside the Latin Patriarch church, in the Gaza Strip. He is basically a Christian frontman for apartheid Israel, just like Michelle Bachman.
This is mentioning you mentioned I spoke about this with a couple of my guests the Christian Zionism and it links back to this. Cyrus Scofield and this dispensationalism. And this cyber Scofield Bible who was actually a con man and then he went to jail came out. So it seems like all of this for 1800 years, this wasn't even part of Christianity. So this is something that it seems like people also been duped into believing these fake prophecy that they're trying to fulfill. You know how much you obviously know much about this.
There's a and I feel I feel I feel bad because I feel they've made it seem like and if correct me, what do you think? I mean, it seems like Christians who are seeing, you know, children just being blown to smithereens massacred, because they feel this is a part of their faith now that they're sinful if they go against this, but then when I bring on other Christian senior Christians and from Allison, we're from Americans, if Americans only knew if you've heard of her, they're saying this has nothing to do with Christianity.
Yeah, I mean, this is a uniquely American form of commercial Christian immersion.
You know, they have many of them believe in the prosperity gospel that if you give
money to the pastor, he will plant a seed in heaven that will multiply and you yourself will become rich. And of course you just become poor and the pastor becomes extremely wealthy. John Hagee is the most prominent Christian Zionist pastor in America, he pushes that mentality along with faith healing. People who go to his church believe that he can actually heal them of their, their sicknesses, and they owe their lives to Him. And then he tells them that the Jewish people have been blessed by God, in order to fulfill biblical prophecy. And you have to see Jews in a sort of fetishistic way as a special people and defend them in everything they do. And Israel supposedly
represents the Jewish people. And therefore, if you don't defend what Israel is doing in the Gaza Strip, where it's just massacring babies in this ungodly way, day after day, with no regard for human life, then you will not go not only will you not go to heaven, you will not get what's owed to you after the rapture. Where were all of the good Christians who've been born again, will go up to heaven, and experience unbelievable pleasure, while the people who've refused to submit will burn an everlasting lake of fire, including many Jews, by the way. It's void as John Hagee get out of that. John Hagee has been turned into an extremely politically powerful and wealthy figure by the Israel
lobby, which set up his Christians United for Israel organization. I mean, he's been turned into a national figure that presidential candidates from the Republican Party must pay homage to every time they run for office, including John McCain, who wasn't even religious. AIPAC set up his entire organization. So once again, you have a Christian frontman for a foreign apartheid lobby, duping millions and millions of Americans into supporting genocide. Wow, this is deep there's a lot to unpack here. I mean, this is incredible. I mean for people you can see you're very well read and you're very well versed in many of these things. Just a few more questions before we conclude this
Hannibal directive. You cover this extensively can you bring our audience up to speed What is this directive What is this Hannibal directive?
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Manuwa issue claiming that we shall abide? Well, just to put it really simply, the Hannibal directive is a one secret Israeli military policy in which the Israeli military kills Israeli soldiers or civilians when they're taken captive by Palestinians in order to prevent the kind of politically painful negotiations that we're seeing Israel forced to undergo now to get its captives out of the Gaza Strip, which means letting go Palestinian captives political prisoners in Israeli prisons. And we saw the Hannibal directive employed on October 7 on a massive level. When helicopters took aim at cars on the ground filled with Israelis when tanks took aim at homes like
the home in which the heads Roni twins. The Israeli hits, Roni twins were being held captive. It was mas Hannibal.
First time the Hannibal directive came into play after the Jabrill agreement in 1986, which was a deal in which Israel swapped like
maybe is over as many is definitely 3000 As many as 6000 Palestinian prisoners for just about three Israeli soldiers, who I think had been captured by the PFLP. GC. It was it was secret. And it came out that this was on the books in 2014. When Israel when an Israeli soldier named Colonel huddart Golden was captured in the Gaza Strip during the Israeli assault on Gaza on August 1 2014. That was Black Friday for Palestinians in the city of Rafah, because when he was captured there, Israel rain down tank shells, missiles, they brought all forced to bear in the area where he was captured in order not only to kill the team that took him, but to kill her dark golden himself, so that they
wouldn't have to cut a deal for him. And they killed him over 100 Palestinian civilians in the process. I was actually there a few days after I found just shells and missiles scattered everywhere marked made in the USA. So that came out that you know, huddart, Golden's family was upset with that. And it came out that they had this secret directive. And now we see it playing out in real time where you have over, I don't know how many people were freed in the last prisoner captive swap. But like over 80 people, and they're all speaking some of them are speaking out of their families are speaking out. And what they're saying is, at first, we were afraid when we went into the Gaza
Strip, that Hamas was going to kill us then we saw that they were taking care of us we were important collateral, and we were being bombed constantly by the Israeli Air Force. And we saw people dying all around us. And our biggest fear was that Israel would kill us. And then they would say Hamas did it. So in many ways, this is a kind of Hannibal directive, because you can see the Israeli leadership does not want to negotiate for these hostages. They don't want to do it, because it's going to require at least a two week ceasefire. And a two week ceasefire could roll into something longer if international pressure comes to bear, so the Hannibal directive is something
that is so central to everything we're seeing right now. And it goes to the core of the mentality of Zionism, which is a total disregard for human life, including the lives of their own citizens. So
So Hannibal directive meaning hostages never taken, even if it means killing your own people, is that correct? Yeah, it's named after the Carthaginian general who killed himself rather than be taken hostage by the enemy. And then we take and then we see this is documented you have evidence police investigation is rarely pleased to investigation confirms you had tanks, helicopters unloading the belly, you had friendly fire, indiscriminate firing. This is from Israeli sources, the H A, R, E, tz hearts, hearts hearts, our hearts. So these this is confirmed as not any conspiracy based on Israeli sources that people on October 7, who were said to have been killed by Hamas and or
other Palestinian militants, were in fact killed by friendly fire by Israeli forces firing indiscriminately at some of the areas that were targeted on October 7. And for that, you were called conspiracy theorists including by Haaretz. But now, an official Israeli police investigation in Israel has confirmed exactly what you reported, which is that an Israeli helicopter did hit Israeli Israeli citizens on October 7.
I was reading newspaper is reporting this an Israeli army helicopter may have fired on partygoers at the dance festival that was attacked by Hamas fighters on October the seventh, more than 360 people were killed at the festival in southern Israel, Haaretz is Quoting an unnamed police source citing an investigation. According to the paper, a combat helicopter arriving at the scene fired on Hamas fighters, and apparently also hit some festival participants. So pretty extraordinary revelations handed talk to us about this investigation that's being reported. An Israeli attack helicopter that was dispatched to shoot on Hamas fighters at the scene may have apparently killed some Israelis
fleeing the area as well. And then you have testimonies from people like us mean Poirot, and others who are coming out and confirming the same thing that you also have reported on.
I mean, how arts initially called me a conspiracy theorist from my article about October 7 that I published in late October. And now Haaretz is declaring in an op ed that we need to talk about the friendly fire deaths on October 7 and the Hannibal directive, so they're acknowledging it. Israeli channel 13 just did a documentary feature on Israeli tanks shelling Israeli homes on October 7, shot himself in the game, the berry,
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So it's all coming out. Now. The problem is the Israeli government is doing everything it can to bury this reality because it will cost Netanyahu his career for sure. And it will weaken the morale of Israeli society as they're starting to lose lots of soldiers in the Gaza Strip because their military operation is not going that well. And why do you think journalists other journalists like Piers Morgan, who we opened up the show with why are they discussing these things, these important facts that people should know about?
Well, he's not a journalist. I mean, a journalist is someone who's just naturally skeptical and they don't hold to one position and they're not also they're not.
They're not controlled by fellow elites and elite opinion. They don't need to the journalist is supposed to exist on the margins, and even accept social isolation, but Piers Morgan he likes to hang out with fellow wealthy people, including wealthy British Zionists and he doesn't want to be castigated. So he's just sort of naturally pro Israel because that's the mainstream position. And he's not someone who follows the
He's not someone who follows a skeptical tendency towards inconvenient facts and truths. That's why you see him when he goes up against Hillary Hussein. He can't even believe someone is saying this to him. Even if it's true, he has to dismiss it as a conspiracy theory because he's never heard it before. Because he's not a real journalist. He's not that skeptical.
I mean, most of the people in our media class have succeeded precisely because they are not very intelligent. They're not critical thinkers and therefore they're useful tools for our are useful stenographers for the powerful forces that are centered around the national security state. Piers Morgan happens to be one of them. I mean, just the funny thing is he he positions himself as someone who is open to all opinions and is willing to entertain controversial views. He's actually a gatekeeper so and people can go and look at most of these articles. I went on the site grade zone it's called the gray zone and you have for instance you go on I started reading and there's some I
think all journalists who are in the field I mean, this is very important formation you're bringing to light a couple of them here are scandal stain Israeli rescue group fuels October 7 fabrications that's one report there you have his really tank gunner reveals orders to fire indiscriminately into Caboose that's the report is really October 7 poster child was killed by his really tank I witnesses reveal. All of this is the gray zone. Hmm.
It is and no one's debunked a single thing. We've no no, no one has debunked a single thing that you've wrote. No, they have any hearts tried. And they called me a master manipulator. And then Haaretz wound up admitting to pretty much everything later on. And no one will debate this. But if you read these articles, you will find everything that you're seeing all the different examples, all the lies being you'll you'll, you'll see it debunked, and everything is sourced their citations for everything. And we also have a YouTube channel. We do daily, we do weekly live streams, me and my colleague, Aaron Matej. And we address all of this propaganda. So we're going to be live streaming
tomorrow. And we're also doing reporting from the ground in Gaza, working with local Gaza journalists, and I think that will provide you with a perspective that you're definitely not going to get in mainstream media. When I get off this stream, I'm going to publish a piece about Israel's attack on the Nasser Hospital in Han Yunus were to attack the hospital with a tank shell and killed a 13 year old girl who had already been orphaned, had lost her parents and siblings and her leg. And then they killed her in her hospital bed. Where are you hearing this story? In US media, we just all we hear is about the October 7 hostages, and we see constant interviews in US media with their
families. We never hear about people like this. This young girl, Dr. Boone, duniya, Abu Mohsen, who was interviewed days before she was killed and said her dream was to be a doctor and get to get a prosthetic and walk and become a doctor so she can help other people like herself. And here is what Israel did with her dreams. Why? So we're doing everything we can to bring the other side of the story, which I think is much closer to reality to you with very little resources. And it's all there at the gray zone.com and are on our YouTube channel. You can follow us on Twitter at the gray zone news. And we have an Instagram channel as well. Highly recommend everybody go Chuck's What's your
workout couple more questions, human shields, you often hear this just repeated over and over. How do you like to address that?
Well, there's there's been no evidence of human shields is understood in the traditional sense of a gunman actually operating deliberately behind civilians in order to gain cover in the Gaza Strip. Except when the Israelis have done it on camera In Jabalia taking men out of their homes, taking their shirts off, and forcing them to march in front of them or strapping them with explosives and force forcing them to go into tunnels ahead of them because they're too cowardly. To face the aka some fighters themselves. We have that on camera US media won't show it. Then we have just the whole concept of human shields that Israel's applying where Oh, a Hamas member, meaning you basically like
it's like you belong to the conservative or Labour party you belong to Hamas is political party. So we're going to bomb your entire family and say that your family are human shields. Well, let's flip that on its head. Israeli soldiers are walking around in Israeli cities going to amusement parks and beaches with their guns and their uniforms. So let's say Hamas had an Air Force, they'd be able to bomb the entire beach and pretty much
Every home and office building inside Israel, if they applied Israel's genocidal logic of human shields, they pulled out they pulled out in 2005 2006. They left them they could have made this into a vacation resort. They could have made it a paradise on earth. Right, right, right. Yeah, there was there was going to be a Trump Tower In Jabalia refugee camp if they had just sat there and enjoyed their occupation and enjoyed being controlled by Israel forever. Now, this whole like the US and UK policy. I mean, the UK policy is the US policy, US policy on Gaza is guided by a few basic racist principles, one of which is that Palestinians are just supposed to accept being controlled by Israel
forever, because Israel is the state that was granted to because of the Holocaust in the Bible, and Joe Biden accepts that logic, and therefore October 7, was unacceptable, along with every form of resistance, including the great march of return, when Palestinians just basically tried to march to their lands that had been taken from them in Israel without weapons, and were all sniped shot, had their legs taken out from under them were paralyzed, were killed. So no form of resistance is acceptable. They just need to accept Israeli control. And the benevolent master will give them wealth and allow them to be a Singapore on the Mediterranean because
that's just there. I mean, where's the where's the pretext for that? Where's that ever happened before? Ladies and Gentlemen, gentlemen, this is Max Blumenthal, here with us award winning journalists go to the gray zone, check them out. Max, thank you so much.
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