Taimiyyah Zubair – Taleem al Quran 2021 J04-054A Translation Al-Nisa 1-6 Tafsir 1 Part 1
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Assalamu alaykum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh I hope you are excited about beginning silica new SAP in sha Allah. I am very excited. People generally have a lot of assumptions about saluto newsa and you know things that they have heard they find difficulty accepting many things that are mentioned in Surah Nisa, so I hope in sha Allah through this class in sha Allah, Allah subhanaw taala opens our hearts and Allah subhanaw taala gives us the ability to accept and surrender to the excellent Lord that he the Exalted has revealed Amin inshallah alright let's begin our with a bIllahi min ash shaytani R rajim Bismillah R Rahman r Rahim, WA Salatu was Salam ala Rasulillah Hill Karim rubbish
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Bismillah al Rahman al Rahim Surah Nisa is the fourth surah in the most half it has 176 verses and it is of the three wild Surah of the Quran. The three wild surah is are the long Surah of the Quran and these are the first seven sorrows from Saluton Bukhara to su Toba and I shall do a lot more on her reported that man, aha the sub are well for who are helped, that whoever
are masters. The first seven sutras becomes a person of knowledge. And the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said regarding the wild surah is that oral Cleito McCanna Thora T's Sabra that I was given in place of the Torah the seven any the seven long Surah of the Quran and if you think about it, the toad auth is mainly law. And the seven sorrows of the Quran also contain law. And the surah is named a new SAP and a Nyssa is its only name and the reason why it is called a new SAP is because it contains many commands related to women. And you see that there are mentioned right from the beginning, and even though there are commands related to others in the Surah, such as commands
related to orphans, and also the law of inheritance as mentioned in detail, since the majority of these commands are related to women, the surah is called a messiah. So understand that it is not exclusively about women, but since the majority is about women, this is why the surah is called a Nyssa. And some are in a man described Surah Nisa as Surah Musa al Cobra, the longer sudo to Musa and so the Talaq they call it through to Nyssa a surah, the shorter one, but also realize that these are not the only two solos in the sutra Nyssa and through the Talaq are not the only two solos were laws pertaining to women are mentioned in detail. They are also mentioned in silica Bacara as we
have studied, they're also mentioned in total AXA sootel. Does the creams or Manta Hina so the surah is not exhaustive in regard to laws pertaining to women, they're mentioned elsewhere in the Quran as well. So it would be incorrect for a person you know, if they want to find out what the Quran says about women and they only look at certain Nyssa because certain Nyssa is not exhaustive in that sense. There are other suitors of the Quran that mentioned laws pertaining to women. Now, like I mentioned that the surah is only known as SUTA Nyssa. It is it's only name and we find out that the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam himself referred to the surah as a new SAP or model the Longhorn
who frequently asked the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam regarding the inheritance of the Calella colada is a person who dies without any Ascendance or descendants any dies leaving only siblings or some distant relatives. So the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wasallam replied, yeah, Omar Al atta Kike is to save a Latifi FET Surah T Nisa, or Amal does the verse, which was revealed in the summer season at the end of Surah Nyssa not suffice you, meaning the verse that is at the end of Surah 10 Noosa is the answer to your question, is that not sufficient? So the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam refer to the surah as Surah Nisa and he also said to even miss Rudra, the Allahu
Anhu that it got aleja Surah Nisa recite to me Sultan Musa. And we see that the Sahaba also refer to the surah as Surah Nisa, who they follow the Longhorn who said that the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam recited to the Bacara earlier Imran and a new SAP. So this name is well known, and Prophet sallallahu alayhi salam himself referred to it as a new SAP. Now, in the sutra, people are given commands regarding women, and especially men are addressed in regard to what they all women, and they're given commands in their relation to women, what they owe them in regard to marriage, in regard to inheritance, etcetera. And this is something that, you know, very normal for us in this
day and age. But remember that at the time when these verses were revealed, this was something unheard off, that a woman did not exactly have an existence of her own, she was only understood as an extension of men, and she did not have any right of inheritance. And this is something that was in many societies, where women did not have the right to own property and things like that. So when Allah subhanaw taala revealed these verses, and he it shows that Allah subhanaw taala gave women their rights, because the one who gives and the one who withholds is Allah, right, and he is the one who has revealed the surah and he is the one who is just allowed the Al hakam, the Exalted and he
would not wrong, anyone at all. So in this surah, Allah subhanaw taala has given women many of their rights because Allah subhanaw taala does not wrong anyone. Now this surah is a Madani Surah which means that it was revealed after the Prophet salallahu alayhi wa sallam migrated to Medina and Aisha Radi Allahu Allah and has said that this sutra was revealed. While I was with the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam. This is reported in Saheba hottie
Any the sutra was revealed after she was living with him sallallahu alayhi wa sallam and it's well known, that happened in Medina and he their marriage was consummated in Medina. So the surah was revealed in Medina meaning it is a Madani Surah but one thing we should understand is that even though the surah has many laws related to women, related to inheritance, etcetera, the surah is not just about laws. Okay, our beloved Masaru little de la Horne, who said, that there are five verses in Surah Nisa that I prefer to the life of this world and all that is in it, any they're my most beloved thing in the world. And he I love these verses more than anything of this dunya and what are
these verses? Verse number 40. Up suited to Nyssa where Allah subhanaw taala says in hola hola yo Lemo myth kala that Allah that Allah does not wrong, even the weight of an atom were integral Hassan atan you are if her were you Timmy lagoon who are Deronda Alima and if there is a good deed, then Allah multiplies it and he gives a great reward from himself. The Second Isaiah verse number 31 offsuit Nyssa where Allah says integrity will cover Ilana tune Hunan, who Naka Farah uncom say Article One of the Philco Matalan Karima that if you avoid the great sins which were forbidden to do, then we will expect from you your minor sins as well. And we shall admit you into an honorable
place of and treat meaning paradise. The third verse that he loved from Surah Nisa is verse number 48 In Hola Hola, yo funeral au Chaka be well, futile Medina Delica, Lima yesha, that indeed Allah who will not forgive that anything is associated with him, but he will forgive what is less than that. And then the fourth is verse number 64 of Sudipta Nyssa Wello unknown Illallah mu and Fusa, whom Jah aka Festung for Allah was still for Allah Houma. Rasul la hoja de la Jota. Weber Rahima, that if they when they had wronged themselves came to you and sought forgiveness from Allah and the messenger also sought forgiveness for them, then they would have found Allah to be accepting of
repentance and merciful. And the final verse is verse number 110. of Surah Nyssa Omidyar yarmulke su n o yield aluminum Sahoo so my Estelle Fetullah Yoji de la has a photo Mahima that whoever does anything wrong, or he wrongs himself and then he seeks forgiveness from Allah, then he will find Allah to be forgiving and merciful. Subhan Allah, if you ask any Muslim men today typically, what's your favorite? I have the Quran they will not even know the whole ayah but they will say much now with Olathe robar. It's the ayah that talks about marrying two wives three wives four wives. Even Massoud Radi Allahu Anhu. What are his favorite verses of surah? Nisa they are verses that talk
about Allah subhanaw taala is forgiveness that Allah subhanaw taala does not wrong anyone that Allah subhanaw taala will forgive sins that are less than schicke any it shows how he thought and he it shows us how eager he was for Allah subhanaw taala is forgiveness. So people have different goals, different desires, right, Elon Musk Rudra de la Horne who was someone who was focused on the akhira he was someone who desired Allah's forgiveness, and that's why he loved these verses so much. And we should also think about it that when I recite the Quran, then do I find any verses that I absolutely love? Any? Do I have such a relationship with the book of Allah, that there are verses in the Quran
which I read and I listened to and they just fill me with joy, they just fill me with hope and I just absolutely love them or is the Quran so distant? That we don't even know what verses there are Subhan Allah, so be eager to develop such a personal connection with the book of Allah. Alright, let's begin Bismillah al Rahman al Rahim. Yeah, uh, you her nurse, or people in the cooler have become Fear your Lord, Allah the Halacha calm the One who created you mean Nuptse Wahida from a single soul wahala come in Huzzah. Jaha and created from it. Its mate. What birth Amin humare, Jilin, cathedra run when he saw and then he scattered from both of them, many men and many women.
What the Kola and fear Allah Allah the Casa Luna be he will or harm through whom you ask one another and the wombs in the Lucha Karna La Cumbre Kiba indeed Allah is Ever over you, an observer the surah
begins with ya au her nurse, Allah subhanaw taala is addressing all people over here, all of mankind, every single human being, typically. Madani Surah has any the sutras that were revealed after the hijra, they addressed the believers. So the address typically is Yeah. Are you Hello Lina Amanu, or you who have believed, but this surah begins with Yeah, Are you her nurse or people, which does not mean that the surah is a murky surah? No, because it's well known that it was revealed after the hijra, but it shows us how important and essential it is for humanity, to fear their Lord, to observe the command that is given over here, any people must follow what Allah subhanaw taala is
telling them here. And he this is something necessary for us to do as human beings, not just as believers, and it shows us that whatever is mentioned in the Surah is relevant to all people regardless of gender, race, socioeconomic status, any what the surah is talking about is of relevance to all segments of society, all people, all segments of society. So what is it that Allah subhanaw taala is telling us in this surah firstly, Allah subhanaw taala tells us here a you have NAS it the Cora bacaan have the qua of your rub it taco. You see Taqwa is that you safeguard yourself how you safeguard yourself by putting something between yourself and what you fear. Like
the Sahaba said that in war when things got intense, they would it de cana Bill Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam that they would shield themselves how? By hiding behind the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam because he was the bravest of them and the strongest of them. So Taqwa is that you will die is that you shield yourself you protect yourself by putting something between yourself and what you fear. So it Dakota Bakun, Safeguard yourselves from your rub meaning from the punishment of your Lord, from the disapproval of your Lord, from the anger of your Lord, how, what is that thing that you can put between yourself and Allah's Anger between yourself and Allah's
disapproval, his punishment, what is that thing? It is Kalama La Ilaha illa Allah, it is to say, La ilaha illa Allah to believe in that it is to believe in Him the way that you should believe in him and any good deed that you do. Like for example, you give sadaqa the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said it could now save yourselves from the fire, even if it is by giving half a date. Right? So any good deed that you do whether it is Salah, or CME, or hedge or zakaat or sadaqa anything, this is what you are saving yourself you're safeguarding yourself from the punishment of Allah. And at the same time, taqwa includes staying away from those things which Allah subhanaw taala does not
like for you to do. So. Yeah. Are you her nurse? Itakura bacame? Who is Roberto? Who is your Lord, the one who Allah the Halacha comb, the One who created you, the one who gave you life and the one who will give you that he owns you, and he provides for you. Now notice, it hasn't been said it the Kola over here, right? Or if you think about it, Allah subhanaw taala has done many things for us. Right? He owns us, He provides for us, any He knows us, but out of all the different attributes, what is mentioned over here, the fact that he created you, it Dakota bacame. Olivia Halacha, calm, Fear your Lord who created you? Why? Because by saying it the kura Buckham Fear your Lord Allah
subhanaw taala reminds humanity of his Rubia of his lordship of the fact that he is the one who has created us. He is the one who provides for us He is the one who has blessed us immeasurable and unquantifiable ways. And he he has given us more than what we can count he has given us more than what we can measure. And he says Allah, the Halacha, comb, the One who created you, because he's making us acknowledge that you know that I am the One who created you. So if you exist, you exist because of Allah. If you exist as individuals, as families, as communities, as societies, you exist because of Allah. If he did not make you, he wouldn't be here. You didn't make yourselves. You
weren't born out of nothing. No, Allah made you which means that you belong to Him. So don't forget him. And you see many times when it comes to, you know, our financial matters, which the surah talks about in great detail, or our relationships, which again, the surah talks
About in great detail, we want to operate on these two levels, any our financial matters and also our relationships while being free of any religious limitations. Alright people want to be able to, you know, buy what they want, sell what they want, deal with their money the way that they want. They don't like religious restrictions. Likewise, when it comes to marriage when it comes to this relationship, again, people want to have that freedom. But it doesn't work like that. Because how can you exclude the one who made you? The one who made you the one who created you, the one who owns you? How can you exclude him from this picture? You have to take his guidance in regard to how you
deal with your property and also in regard to your relationships because you belong to Him. So you can't forget him? You can't ignore him. It Dakota buckle and let the Halacha comb. And then Allah subhanaw taala says that He created you monopsony Wahida He created you from a single soul and who is that single knifes. It is Adam and his Salah because other money Salam is a father of humanity, the first human and then will Hello Come in Huzzah. Jaha and he created from it from what from that nipson Wahida from that single soul Allah created from it, XO Jaha. It's made its spouse, its wife as in howa. So what this means is that all of you humans are from the same origin. Right? All of you
have been created from a single soul, which means that when all of you have the same father and the same mother, then no human being is intrinsically better than another human being. And the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam made this very clear, in hajj, the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam addressed the people and he said that all people vary Lee, your Lord is one and your father is one. And he Adam is your father. All of you are the children of that one father of Adam or husana. And he said, Verily, there is no superiority of an Arab over a non Arab, or of a non Arab over an Arab or of a red man over a black man, or of a black man over Redman except in terms of Taqwa in a chroma
comer in the law he at Qualcomm, and then he said, Have I conveyed the message? They said, Yes, he said, so the one who is present should convey to the one who is absent, all of you are the children of Adam. So this means that no human being is intrinsically better than the other. And the only way in which one human being can be better than another is in terms of Taqwa. And over here Wirkkala caminhada xojo her and he created from it, it's made men over here can be understood in a number of ways. First of all, halacha Minh has older her means men Gen Z, her, and he he created of its kind it spouse, meaning the spouse of Adam was of his kind. Not some other species, Hawa is also human.
Right? She's not some other species. Okay. And what is more well known is that min over here means min Nuptse. Her meaning from the nuts itself. Allah subhanaw taala created, however, from Adam, Allah subhanaw taala created how up from Adam, and this is something that's mentioned elsewhere also, for example, the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said, that he who believes in Allah and the hereafter, if he witnesses any matter, then he should talk in good terms about it or keep quiet. And then he said, act kindly towards the woman, for the woman is created from a rib and the most crooked part of the rib is its top. If you attempt to straighten it, you will break it. And if you
leave it, it's crookedness will remain there. So again, he repeated that act kindly towards women. And another narration the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said that If you enjoy her, and if you live with her, you will do so while crookedness remains in her. And if you attempt to straighten her, you will break her and breaking her is divorcing her. Now many people misunderstand this hadith. They think that this hadith means that the woman is, you know, perverted, her nature is evil, it is faulty. Know what this Hadees means is that you will find that a man will typically find things in a woman that he doesn't get, he cannot rationalize, he's not able to understand like, it
doesn't fit his logic. So, if he is bent upon changing her the way that he wants her to be than what will happen, this marriage will end up in divorce. So the prophets of Allah who already sent him is telling me
Men that accept your wife as she is, and do not be harsh and forceful with her. Because if you are harsh and forceful with her, and you attempt to straighten the rib, what's going to happen? It's not malleable, you cannot mold it. The only outcome is that you will break it and breaking it means that you will divorce her, and that marriage will not work at all. And this hadith shows us that marriage is not a one way road, that things only have to be according to the man's wishes and the woman always has to oblige. No. In fact, in this hadith, the Prophet salallahu Alaihe Salam is telling men basically that they need to change instead of forcing their wives to change. Alright, so the Prophet
salallahu Alaihe Salam said that the woman is wholecut Min Lilla and he she has been created from the rib and he the first woman was created from the rib rib of who rib of Adam. Okay, so halacha Minh has algebra, that is the source of her creation. And this shows us that women are from men, right? Women are from men, but they're also different from them. They're not men. Well halacha Minh has Zoda and the word xojo means one of a pair okay Zoji means one of a pair or a counterpart of something okay? Any with its counterpart or its partner it becomes complete. Like for example, you have the left shoe so the right shoe with the left shoe complete pair Okay, so though just what one
of a pair, so zones and zones, any zone and Soulja XO Jane, any husband and wife, complete pair, so wahala come in her zoologia Any Isn't this amazing that Allah subhanaw taala created it's made its spouse from that single soul. And in this is the perfection of Allah subhanaw taala is blessing on the human being right that the mate is suitable the spouse is suitable so they're sukoon Penny made for each other. We're both them in Houma regional and cathedra on one Isa, what Bertha and he scattered Minh Houma from them to, from who to from the single soul and it's made from Adam and Hawa, he scattered Allah subhanaw taala, scattered from them to Regina and Catherine, many men that
Egil plural of Rajan cathedra is describing ritual, so many men when he saw and also women meaning and also many women, so many men and many women, Allah subhanaw taala scattered them throughout the earth. And, you know, this shows us that Allah subhanaw taala only brought out from Adam howa men and women, okay, not animals, birds or insects. Okay, not the saya mentioned men and women, right that the children of Adam and Hawa are basically men and women. A lot of people wonder what about intersex people, people who are neither fully male nor fully female, and he physically they're born that way. So first of all, understand that intersex is not trans. Okay? Many people like to mix the
two categories, they're not the same. Okay? trans and intersex are completely different. Secondly, we see that Allah subhanaw taala mentions only male and female, Allah subhanaw taala does not mention a third gender. Okay? And Allah subhanaw taala is the Creator. And in the time of the Prophet salallahu, Alaihe Salam, there were intersex people that existed, all right. So, an intersex person in a nutshell, an intersex person is like someone who has an extra or an abnormal growth. Like for example, a child is born with an extra finger, right or something is missing from their body, right? Like, for example, a lung is missing or part of an organ or an entire organ is missing,
right? So either an extra development or an under development. Now, depending on which organs function and how they develop with time, it does become clear whether they're male or female. Alright, so essentially what has to happen is that such a child has to be raised in a particular way the either they're supposed to be raised as a male, or they're supposed to be raised as a female, depending on which organs function. Okay, so basically, if they're more male, then that's how they will be raised. If they're more female, then that is how they should be raised. And this is necessary to understand because, you know, for example, when it comes to the laws of inheritance,
the share of the male is different from the share of the female. All right, so we cannot carve a new gender a third gender in the middle, because if we do that, it will raise a lot of problems. Any for example, if someone has a child who was like that
Well which share of inheritance will they get will they get the male share or the female share? Right? When it comes to Salah, a woman has to cover her body, right she has to wear her hijab etcetera. A man does not. When it comes to Hajj or Umrah the man has to wear a haram and the woman eonni she is also in a state of Iran, but her clothing is different. So there are many issues where you know, it needs to be clear as to whether a person is a man or a woman. So basically, it has to be decided in each child's case, how they're going to be raised and what rules are going to be applied to them. You cannot carve out a third gender. So a birth I mean who Maddie Jalan Kathy Iran
one Isa. Now, Bertha Bertha. Bertha means to scatter and to divide, to disperse. Think about the I call Faraj Elizabeth Ruth, that people on the Day of Judgment will be like moths that are my booth booth. My booth isn't scattered. So Allah subhanaw taala has catered all over the earth, many men and many women. Why is this being mentioned over here this is being mentioned to first of all remind us that all of you human beings, no matter where you are on earth, you are all descendants of who? of Adam and Hawa. Right? So you're all the same, you're all part of a huge family. All right, and Allah subhanaw taala is the one who has made you. Secondly, this should make us realize the power of
Allah, that he created all of you from a single soul. And he think about it all over the world. So many men, so many women, Allahu Akbar, and all of them have been created scattered all over the earth, by who by Allah, and sold the room and number 20 Allah subhanaw taala says women Aya T, and hello, Coco Mintu Robin, some either and timber Sharon, then the Sharon, that it is obvious signs that he created you from dust, and then all of a sudden you all are human beings scattering everywhere, and you have spread all over the earth. And really, if you think about it, no matter what part of the earth you go to, you will find human beings living over there. Right? Regardless of
the climate, the landscape, any from the most coldest, to the hottest, right to the most wet to the most dry. Subhanallah somehow people live all over the world. And Betha min humare Jilin cathedra on one Isa, he so many of you, and this means with all of your differences, because Allah subhanaw taala is the one who has scattered you. So with all of your differences, he is the one who has made you different races, different languages, in sort of room I have 22 Allah subhanaw taala says women if teehee help us somehow it will all work Tila for Al Cinetic como el wa Nico that among His Signs is the creation of the skies and the earth and the difference between your languages and your
colors. And he this is of the signs of Allah in pseudo gerat Ayah 13 Allah subhanaw taala says yeah, Are you a nurse inna hola canal come in Vicodin were unfair, or people we have created you from a male and a female which are now come Shubin. Wakaba Elita Rafo and we have made you into nations and tribes so that you know one another in a chroma comer in the law here at Arkham. Indeed, the most honorable of you in the sight of Allah is the One who is most righteous. So about them in Houma, Regina and Catherine, when he saw all of you are from the same source