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Bismillah Ar Rahman Rahim
shad en la ilaha illa Allah Who? Who Nasha akena Masha Allah Mohammed Abu hora solo annaba.
Brothers and sisters it gives me great honor
to be with you here for this great convention
and the theme of the conventions. What would Mohammed Elisa that was salam, what would he do?
And I just want to take a moment before I talk about noncom unheimlich. Chavez
is to say why that this is a it's a critical and a legitimate question.
Today we were asked the question,
is it legitimate to study the life of Malcolm X? And why?
Why should we as Muslims study the life of Malcolm X, why would you include it as a topic of discussion in this convention? Why?
Everything that we do as Muslims must be seen in the light of an Quran and the Sunnah of the Prophet Mohammed Ali salat wa salam.
Allah mentioned the Quran the only be lame initiate on the regime is Narayan Rahim. What you love it Rasul Allah Amara men come for enter. Enter NASA to fishing for rudo, illallah wa Sol inconjunct tominaga. William.
O, you who believe obey Allah.
And there's no no discussion about that absolutely obey Allah and obey His Messenger
and obey those charged with authority among you.
If you differ, not with a lot is mentioned. Of course, there's no difference but a lot is messenger. But if you differ with those charged with authority among you refer it back to Allah and the messenger. If it is you believe in Alon the last day. So the question is, in the light of Quran and Sunnah, why should we study the life of Malcolm X?
And I understood that this was going to be a workshop and not just a lecture, I could give a lecture
or I can have a workshop. A lecture means the massage does all the work.
workshop me and we share on the work.
You want to lecture or workshop.
I want to begin
by asking you a couple of questions.
How many of you have read at least The Autobiography of Malcolm X? Raise your hand?
Your first assignment for those who didn't read it, read it.
read The Autobiography of Malcolm X, you must.
Why do you think
we should study the life of Malcolm X
as a Muslim?
Why do you think we should study the life of Malcolm X? Or
why should we not study the life of Malcolm X?
I assume the former
Why should we study the life
of Malcolm? Yes.
Malcolm as an example.
In the Quran, Allah subhanho wa Taala uses two words to describe both Prophet Mohammed Elisa that was lamb and Prophet Ibrahim Alayhi. salat wa salam o
Put on Hasina
a, an example a model a good model a perfect model.
To study Malcolm is not man mandatory is not far
to believe in all of the profits is mandatory. m&r soon will be my own Zilla email Robbie, one more me known Kowloon Amma de la
and we have to know know what an Adam and Moosa and Ebrahim and Isa and Mohammed Salah, Salah. We have to know the prophets, but if you don't know Mohammed don't know, Malcolm it doesn't add to our Eman or take away from our Eman. However,
there are lessons in the life of Malcolm, Alhaji Malik Shabazz that is critical for Muslims and non Muslims to know.
Whilst we studied the life of Malcolm,
contemporary American history
If you were x and polled the American people, especially African Americans, the two greatest heroes in America, African American History
99% would say, Malcolm X, and Martin Luther King Jr.
One of them a Muslim.
If you been studying the life of Malcolm Malcolm is a great hero not only to Muslims, because we go all throughout America, you will see Malcolm X Boulevard, Malcolm X school things named after Malcolm because when people want to honor you, they name something after you the name streets, the name institutions. And so many institutions are named after Malcolm. But there's a problem.
Many people are claiming Malcolm
the revolutionaries they say Malcolm is one of us. The black nationalists they say Malcolm is one of us. The socialists they say Malcolm is one of us.
So we must give the American people and the people of the world some perspective in the life of Malcolm
Muslims must learn history number one, we must learn Quranic history.
Quranic history number two,
we must study world history.
Number three, we must study American history.
And number four, my recommendation Muslims ought to study African American History is critical. I tell you why.
You will find out that many Muslims, we will repeat the histories of history of the African Americans. Some of the things that Muslims are suffering from right now in this country African Americans suffered from
but there's one advantage that Muslims have over African Americans.
And you know what that is?
There's interest in AI in Korean makalah Rajat Menon, Minh alifair, tomo Amano
and a believer in man from the family of Pharaoh who hid his faith.
You as a Muslim can hide your faith, can't you?
You as a Muslim don't have to dress like a Muslim. You don't have to look like a Muslim.
You see this brother right there? Subhan. Allah. I don't want to embarrass you. But he has a Muslim bed.
Even if he didn't have jelibean he's got a Muslim look.
Goofy Jellybean beard. Hannah.
But you can hide that.
But African Americans could not hide the blackness.
So you had 1000s of black people who were lynched only because they were black.
But Muslims, they can hide there either.
So therefore, we need to know history number one Quranic history number two World History number three, American history number four, African American history. Why? Because Muslims are following some of the same path of the African Americans. So we should study African American history. Even if Malcolm were not a Muslim,
we should we would still study the life of Malcolm X because of the great contributions that he made to the African Americans. Hence, the great contribution that he made to America.
Rose Rosa Parks was not a Muslim, but we studied the history of Rosa Parks. Martin Luther King was not a Muslim, but we studied the life of Martin Luther King because of the contributions that he made in in America. So, but
why do people claim Malcolm?
Because you know why brothers and sisters, people like to take great people and it gives them a sense of legitimacy.
If that person belongs to the group, for instance,
Jews and Christians,
Jews and Christians,
many of them do not accept why Middle East Jerusalem as a messenger,
Jews do not accept easily so that was an M as a messenger
Muslims, Christians and Jews, all of them except Prophet Ibrahim Alayhi, salat wa salam, as a messenger.
Not only that,
each one of them claim him to be their own.
So law says I'm called an ambulance. By the way, Ban says you don't have to apologize
for anything in the Koran. If a law revealed in the court and is the reason for
mechana Ibrahima yahoodi. In Walla
Walla, Qin Cana hanifin Muslim and McKellar Minh and Moshe became so lost in the Quran. Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Christian, but he was an outright Muslim. And it was not among the polytheist people claim Abraham alayhi salatu was Salam because to claim him, gives them a sense of legitimacy.
You don't even know how great Malcolm is a was in the eyesight of American people, especially African Americans. So many people, they quote Malcolm like we quote the Quran, Malcolm said it and as if if Malcolm said it, then there's no argument. But ma ma, ma, ma ma come said this knocking and you had people all over America, quoting Malcolm.
So one of the things that Muslims have to do is put Malcolm in perspective.
Because when you talk about Malcolm you'll see as we go on.
When Malcolm has said something, you'd have to ask the question, which Malcolm?
Was it, Malcolm in 1954. In the Nation of Islam, is it Malcolm in 1964 when he declared his independence from the Nation of Islam? Was it nakum in 1965, after the haunch, which Malcolm. So only the Muslims can do that. They can put Malcolm in an in perspective.
Why do we study Malcolm?
Why do you study Alhaji Malik Chavez?
Why do you want to study him? Why did you come to this?
Not the convention. This session this morning. Well, I can't go Oh, I want to see my massage. Oh,
no. You came because of the topic. Why did you come Why do you want to know about my uncle?
Still poses a very controversial figure in American society. History.
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a major figure right now in America. People still talking about Malcolm.
A little louder.
Now come when so many of the same
situation is that Muslims are going through today. That's That's good. I'm gonna come back to that. Given one more. Yes, sir. Yes.
I worked with
good. Number one sisters. Let me tell you about my credentials. I'm giving a talk right? Mmm Suraj what give what what are your credentials, I have two of them.
And not necessarily in in the order of most importance. I taught a course at a college called Manhattanville in the course that I taught was the political and religious philosophy of Malcolm X
and attended by
mostly non Muslims.
And the school that I taught was significant because it's the school that my daughter went to Basma was the daughter who, who died.
Just, I think one week short of her graduation. She started the she was the first Muslim to
start MSA in Manhattanville College,
just about nine years ago. And it was ironic that I want to becoming teaching a course in that very little school that my daughter went to. So one of my credentials that I taught a course about Malcolm X college.
But number two, perhaps more significant is that I went to a similar path of Malcolm in this regard.
I joined what was called the Nation of Islam.
And that was a minister of the Nation of Islam, just like Malcolm was a minister in the Nation of Islam. Malcolm was a minister in the Nation of Islam, not only a minister, but his, it's his major Minister
for about 12 years.
And I was in the Nation of Islam from 1969 to 1975, about six years, so haven't been a minister in the Nation of Islam,
and then become an orthodox Muslim, like Malcolm haven't been in the Nation of Islam, performing pilgrimage to Mecca, and then become an orthodox Muslim. I went to a similar transition in my life. So that kind of gives me some, some perspective. Many people
my mouth is tremendously dry. You have to forgive me, would you give me a moment? It's okay. I need your permission.
Trust me, even if you said no, I'm still drinking.
Many people they start talking about great people. And that's but they start speaking about their lives.
But let's do something that a lot doesn't go and for instance,
take musala A salat wa salam. Allah doesn't begin with Musa. Allah begins with the month of Moses.
So there's great wisdom in that.
Think about East LA salat wa salam. O. Allah doesn't begin with Isa. Allah doesn't even begin with the mother visa.
Allah begins with the grandmother of Isa
because of a dua that she made that Allah subhana wa Taala would protect her offspring, Miriam and
Miriam's offspring Isa lay so that was a lamb and that and you come to see that that was a very significant do I? Because according to the Prophet Mohammed Ali salat wa salam if you don't believe me, pick up al Bukhari Hadith volume number four, under the Kitab al anbiya. The prophets, you will see that the Prophet peace and blessings be upon on the set. Every human being that's born, was touched by shaytaan at birth, except to people
who are the exceptions.
Who said Muhammad?
Excellent brother. I could kiss you.
Not gonna do it though.
The Prophet didn't say himself.
He said Isa and his mother, Miriam.
In the Hadith, he mentions Isa and his mother, Marian.
I don't want to start with Malcolm.
I want to start with his grandmother.
You know why?
Because his grandmother was raped by a white man.
And as a result, she became pregnant.
And she made a major decision in her life. Her decision was to have the baby.
As a result of that, she gave birth to the mother, Malcolm, who would eventually give birth to my uncle.
And you go back to the ayat of the Quran, and that he who saves one life is as if they saved all of humanity. Look, as a result of one incident that happened in history, had that not happened. We would never have Malcolm because his grandmother decided to have the baby.
So hence, Malcolm became a an icon in history of African Americans. Now
studying the life of Malcolm, I want to mention two things, both of them from our tradition.
Number one, how he was born.
The moment that Malcolm was born, what was his religion?
How do you know? Kala Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam koulamallah Don EULA to Allah fitrah for Apple However, while you're here with Danny Will you not see Ronnie when you mature Sunny, every person is born is born in a state of fitrah submission to do the will of Allah subhanho wa Taala it's the parents that make them a Christian, a Jew or Christian or imagine
Malcolm was born a Muslim in the very fitrah
like everyone else, and then and by the way, this is this is shown from an Iron Curtain whether keylolo Manzil Allah and when it is said to them, follow what Allah has revealed. They said no, we will follow where we found our fathers. And again this whole idea is mentioned right there in the Quran.
And finally, the last thing and then we got to get get involved we haven't by the way we haven't started yet.
So don't get excited. Get don't get tight on me. We haven't started yet.
The other one is
almost every football you hear this iron from the Quran? Yeah, you're the nominal takala Hakata court he will add to Mottola Ella and to Muslim or you believe fail laws he should be failed and do not die except as a Muslim.
Paul r Sulu, lai la salat wa salam, the prophet said
in the Mahatma Lu bilhah. Team, your D shall be judged by your last deeds. Okay, now stop.
How long did How old was Mark how many died?
that excellent, just short of his 40th birthday. By the way, that is not an insignificant number. How old was Martin Luther King when he was assassinated.
40 years old. How old was Prophet Muhammad Ali salat wa salam when he became prophet.
What is the age when a man
reaches full maturity 40.
And we're gonna go back to that this afternoon, that assassination of Malcolm X at the age of 40, and the assassination of
Martin Luther King at the age of 40. That's not insignificant.
Now, how many years was Malcolm, a Muslim?
Now come was only a Muslim for one year.
was only a Muslim.
For one year.
He declared his independence from the Nation of Islam in 1964.
He was assassinated in 1965.
One year represents 2.5% of his life.
If you study the history of Malcolm X, you will see that when he was young, he was a brilliant student.
Bright. And you know what he wanted to be? He wanted to be a lawyer. But you know, what Malcolm had the audacity to be to be born in the air in the era of black segregation. racism. And some incident happened in the life of Malcolm, one little incident happened in the life of Malcolm that changed his life dramatically. And what was that?
one incident in the life of Malcolm changed his life dramatically? In what was it?
going to jail even before that?
Malcolm told his teacher, no Bronx, this is not me stop here and say this to you? Can you hear me? Sound is good. Hey, tell you something.
I tell you something.
You don't know the value of a teacher teaches a powerful. Allah blessed me what nine children, every one of them went to a Muslim school. Every one of them went to a Muslim school, I send my children to Muslim schools. Why? Because I know the value of education, education is critical. And the teachers that teach are very critical.
You don't know the impact that a teacher makes on a student.
If you think it's no problem, having a gay teacher that doesn't have an impact on your child, you don't understand. If you don't think that a teacher doesn't transmit how it feels to students, you don't understand. But being brought up in a segregated south on a segregated country, in a time of great racism. You don't know what it's like Yo, Malcolm, the brightest in the school, Malcolm the brightest in the school. And all the questions the brightest in a at that time, integrated school.
Malcolm was one of the few African Americans and in the school, and he excelled. And then the teach x students, well, what would you like to become? I want to, I want to be a lawyer.
You want to be a lawyer, Malcolm, oh, Malcolm, Malcolm, Malcolm, be real My God. Be real. Malcolm, you don't want to be no lawyer, be real. Malcolm wants you to be a carpenter.
And you know what he meant? had a teacher said, Oh, Malcolm, I'm going to help you be a lawyer. I'm going to help you research it. I'm going to make sure you become the best lawyer. But the teacher did the very opposite. He discouraged him. And Malcolm himself said that that was a major change in his life.
one incident that you think is insignificant, winds up being very significant.
So Malcolm then lives a life of crime.
And then Malcolm goes to jail.
And in jail, he joins a group called the Nation of Islam.
Why did he join the Nation of Islam?
Why did I join the Nation of Islam in 1969? I was a student at New York University. And you know what you want to hear the truth. How many you go to student school right now in college, raise your hand
How many of MSA
well think about this 1969 I'm sitting in cafeteria in New York University.
People coming in proselytizing,
inviting me to go to their movement to join the movement, the Nation of Islam.
They sit down next to me in the cafeteria. They put their arms around me, and they rap to me.
And you know what?
No Muslim ever came to me.
No Muslim ever sat down next to me and handed me a piece of paper or flyer or a book, environment to anywhere. But what happened? The Nation of Islam. They came, they sat next to me in the cafeteria, in the lounge, the student lounge, and they started talking to me in one Wednesday, I'll never forget
1969 I had an afro. You know, an afro is.
My Afro was so big, you can land a helicopter on it.
And I remember the suit that I wore that day, I never forget, I wore this pinstripe suit brown shoes. I never forget. I went to 120 Madison Street.
A minister named author 14x was teaching that day. And I joined the Nation of Islam in 1969. Malcolm was in prison. And his brother was in the Nation of Islam. And there was somebody in the prison who was a Muslim, and they proselytize. Malcolm, in brothers and sisters. You never know. One moment that you talk to somebody. You never know what that person will become.
Think about this. Think about all the people you know the speakers that you know who was converted to Islam.
Think about Suraj Maharaj, who used to be a Christian?
Abdullah came Jackson used to be a Christian.
Hamza Yusuf used to be Christian. Mm hmm. He used to be Christian. Abdullah Hakim, quick used to be Christian bow Phillips used to be Christian. And you start naming all these speakers that you know, conventions that you go to that you listen to. They were non Muslims. But somewhere along the line, somebody went to them and gave them a word. And it made a difference.
Somebody spoke to Malcolm,
and look what Malcolm became.
When Malcolm joined the Nation of Islam. This man took the Nation of Islam, out of
darkness and boarded into light, by the power and strength and charisma of Malcolm, the Nation of Islam was transformed into a big movement and brought on the world scene. Because of Malcolm.
What lesson do you learn? Consider this.
Number one says please don't, don't, don't get offended.
a person with a good product
but a bad salesman.
And then you have a person with a bad product. But a good salesman.
You can have the best product in the world but if you have lousy salesman.
A person with an inferior product can outsell anytime.
You can argue what we have.
We have our core and we have the sun. We have Mohammed Ali salat wa salam. But where are we?
In the Nation of Islam. I was there I preached it. I know what they taught wasn't Islam. But you know what? Those people in the Nation of Islam, including Malcolm X, they were out there
on the street corners. They were knocking on the doors. Do you know brothers and sisters that every day in the Nation of Islam, you know what I did? inspired by people like Malcolm they had a newspaper called Muhammad speaks.
And I was a student at New York University, full time student on the one hand and going working full time full time student and a full time worker just got married.
And you know what I did? Because I was dedicated to that movement. I quit my job. And so Muhammad speaks newspapers every day.
You know what I did? I bought a blue suit.
I'll never forget this.
And I put in that blue suitcase, at Muhammad speaks newspapers and put 50 under my arms.
I wasn't driving, and I walked all through Brooklyn at those days, I was known as Jeffrey 12x.
Which means I was a 12 Geoffrey in New York, to be in the Nation of Islam. Malcolm X was the first Malcolm, Malcolm to x the second, Malcolm 3x 4x 5x. You get your x according to your name? How many people in that city had the same name?
And you know what I did? I walked all throughout the neighborhood,
knocking on doors, Muhammad speaks newspaper, Muhammad speaks newspaper, Muhammad speaks newspaper. And I got so many customers, I had 1000 customers.
Many of them I brought into the Nation of Islam.
but dedicated salesmen.
You know what? In those days, you asked the people what they thought about Malcolm and the Nation of Islam.
The majority of the African American people, they loved them, because they showed that they cared. They came to them. They talked to them. Nobody from the MSA came to me in school, but the Nation of Islam they came and I joined Malcolm X.
He joins, he goes to prison. And those in the Nation of Islam, they proselytize him. He joins, he becomes a minister and he becomes a great minister.
No one says, Let me recommend a couple of books to get before I go on to the questions and answer period.
nonconvex is one thing, the autobiography. That's a must. Everyone should get that. But then there's another interesting book that you might want to pick up. It's called growing up x.
By le ASSA shabads. I'm so why this is important book alyansa shabads is one of the daughters of Malcolm X.
And if I were you and your MSA, I would get her to speak. And I'll tell you why.
While the many things that you learn from The Autobiography of Malcolm X, like the Hodge, and we're going to go into that later this afternoon.
But this book gives perspective.
did you know that Malcolm made Haji what year
64. The year before he died?
The same people that invited him to make hodgin 64 invited him again and 65 but he was assassinated. So they came to his wife, Dr. Betty shabads and said, You know what? We're gonna send your husband for Hodge. Now we want to send you
Malcolm X. Malcolm X, Y for Dr. Betty shabads made pilgrimage to Mecca, the same year that Malcolm was assassinated. When she had twins. She was pregnant with twins, when she made a pilgrimage. And then she made a second pilgrimage.
Malcolm had nothing but daughters. And in this book, Elissa tells us how after the death of her father, Malcolm X, the mother took their children to 72nd Street Masjid in New York every week.
There was an Imam, Imam tafi, who's the mom of MIB the mesh of Islamic brotherhood 113 Street every Wednesday night.
Dr. Shibez will take her children to his house, where he taught them Arabic Islamic Studies and black history. So there are a lot of things that you get that you didn't know about Malcolm into intimate things about his life and his family grown up x, you might want to pick that up. And the last book,
very interesting book, and I may talk about this in a later session is the assassination of Malcolm X.
Three people were convicted of assassinating him. I know all three of them.
All three of them became Sunni Muslims in prison. In fact, all three of them became an Imam.
I two of them that were that were guilty. That was convicted. We believe to this day the innocent. They spent 20 something years in prison for crime. They didn't commit. One of them did it.
Tom Woods here, changed his name to Mujahid haleem
I know him and I'm gonna tell you some personal things about a conversation that I had with him recently. So I'm going to talk about that maybe in the question answer period or maybe this afternoon session, but you might want to pick up this book. It's called the assassination of Malcolm X by
I can't even see.
Yeah, George George, Brett, Minh, b r e i, t, ma n,
you might want to pick up was a very fascinating book about the trial of these three men who are accused of killing or killing Malcolm X. Number one says I'm gonna stop now, with this last point. And I want to emphasize it.
And, and tonight's this afternoon's latest session, I'm going to go into more details about his life, I wanted to lay the philosophical foundation. Before we have our discussion about details of the life of Malcolm, I kind of want to took this morning to kind of lay a foundation and build on some of the things that we're going to be speaking about this afternoon
about critical things in his life, especially when he took Shahada, and things that will happen to him and the impact that he made on African Americans and on on America. So um, so we stop now, and we got about 10 minutes for questions and answers.
If you want to ask a question, you have two choices. You can just stand up and ask the question or you can write it down either way with accepted shot whatever is easy for you.
By the way, let me tell you something interesting.
If you study the theology of the Nation of Islam, especially if you look at the book written by larger Muhammad called the
name of his book, a message to the black man
Malcolm is considered a hypocrite in the Nation of Islam.
When I was in college,
Malcolm was my man. My mother would tell you I will go around the house quoting Malcolm right I just graduated from high school. And I was Malcolm said this and Malcolm said that Malcolm said that
the field Negro in the house Negro back during slavery, there are two kinds of slaves he was a field Negro in the house Negro now in the field Negro he'll, he'll go around, quote, Malcolm Malcolm
is 69 when I went to the temple, and by the way, I had automark was records. Right? So in those days, we didn't have CDs, right. You know, we had you don't know you don't know what they want, man. What do you call it stuff now?
For photographs, yeah, I need I need the old timers to help me.
Right. So we had these record albums right? of Malcolm X. And I had an I had a how to speeches in 1969, when I joined the Nation of Islam.
So thoroughly was brainwashed.
And never forget this. I went home and got all my record albums. And there was a friend of mine name. Reggie.
All these record albums of Malcolm, I don't need them anymore. You take him.
He says, he said, Jeff, are you are you serious? I said, Yeah. And he knew how much I loved Marco. So you take him
because of information that I had
wrong information. A real hero of mine became someone that I hated. Because of the misinformation that I got. And I gave them all away. You will come to see brothers and sisters. It is critical that when you have the truth, that you take the truth out there because there are people with darkness that are misguided and people with darkness and those who have the light. If we stay at home, then the darkness will prevail.
Questions or statements about Malcolm raise your hand please. Or you can write it down. Yes, sir.
I when I was younger, as a child, I saw the movie.
The movie it seemed as if he knew he was going to get assassinated.
Very accurate, Malcolm.
He knew he was gonna die. Let me tell you something. There's another book that you might want to pick up. It's called remembering Malcolm. Remember, Malcolm was written by one of his close associates named Benjamin Kareem Benjamin Kareem was the minister who opened up for Malcolm the day he was assassinated.
Benjamin said that Malcolm saved his life.
Usually when he opens up for Malcolm he will sit right there.
That day Malcolm said don't sit down.
He's going to back I'm looking for I'm expecting someone let me know when they come.
Prior to the last day, Malcolm's life. That whole week he felt that he was going to be assassinated. One week before he died, if you remember, he just can't just come from abroad. At two o'clock in the morning his house was firebombed.
And that day, he was scheduled to give a speech in Detroit he went
and by the way, can anyone tell me who was sitting in the audience in the front row? Today? He gave a speech one week before he was killed anyone? No.
Hint, her name is
Rosa Parks. Rosa Parks wrote a book called my story. And in that her last chapter, she spends two pages speaking about Malcolm and his philosophy, how he changed he went to Mecca. And she was there that night and Malcolm autograph the program.
And, and, and but the week prior, in fact, the weeks prior to that months prior to that Malcolm felt he had this premonition that he will be he will be killed. So yes, my Spike Lee got it right. He felt that he was and it was there was a lot of evidence people tried. It was choose poison on the flight to friends. So yeah, there's a lot of reasons for in the field that he was going to be assassinated.
Yeah, you can't get his lectures videos. You know, if you go online, you may find out where I'm not sure in Houston. We're in New York the normal place you can get some some CDs and some some audios of Malcolm I'm sure. Anyone know here where you can get him. Would you add? Can you find out inshallah, but yeah, I'm sure you can. You can find them again, you might go online, and you might put Malcolm recordings, and you should be able to get it. That's that's pretty easy. I know, we have New York City. The second thing is a very interesting question that really requires a lot of dialogue about why the Malcolm declares independence.
The simple answer is that he, you know, saw the light understood Islam,
as is really was meant to practice the practice any left. But it's not that simple. There were a lot of intrigues in the Nation of Islam, and consider also the personal life of the leader, Elijah Muhammad. Malcolm had interviewed his secretaries. And so there was a lot of
improprieties, some of the secretaries of Elijah Muhammad became pregnant by him. And so there's a lot of issues about that. They will people in the Nation of Islam was trying to drive Malcolm X out of the Nation of Islam. But I think the best answer is all of the above. And then after he left the icma, pilgrimage, and we really saw Islam, he's very, very clear on all of his last speeches. In fact, we should talk about that. All of his last speeches, especially the one in Detroit a week before he died. He was very, very clear about the distinction between Islam, orthodox Islam, and with the Nation of Islam. In his book, in the end, Malcolm X's autobiography talks about the
distinction. So ultimately, he left because he understood the truth of Islam. But there was a lot of intrigue that drove him out there, in that perhaps, in the Nation of Islam, had they kept Malcolm maybe Malcolm would have stayed allow alum, and maybe never reached the point where he reached when he actually ultimately left alone.
Yes, sir. Amen.
but if you're
regularly around workday, meaningful round.
Robin you're writing about
Ma'am, thank you, Zack Okada. I am of the opinion that whenever they have these programs about Malcolm X, even if it's commemorating his birth, or his assassination, sometimes they do around May in which he was born on February 21, which he was assassinated. I think we should go there.
reason that we go we're not going to celebrate his birthday. And everything for us as Muslims in the month I'm a little vignette is according to Ania our intention. Our intention is not to celebrate the birthday, Malcolm, we don't even celebrate the birthday of the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him. We don't celebrate the birthday of Isa Li salat wa salam, we here and this convention, we're not celebrating the birthday of Jesus right? It happens to be at a time when it's convenient for us to come together to have a program. Likewise, when they have these programs on commemorate and Malcolm, we should go there. If we don't go there, other people will go there and they will
hijack Malcolm, and they will talk about Malcolm, the revolutionary, Malcolm, the socialists, knock on the black nationalists, and now convention all of those things, by the way, brothers and sisters, and it hurts me to say what I'm going to say, well, lying hurts me.
There is a movement of people called gay people right now that are claiming that Isa was game, stop for law. And I really honestly hurts me to say that, but it's a fact people doing that. So anytime that we have the opportunity to go to set the record straight, we ought to do that.
Ah, you mentioned that the Nation of Islam people approached you in college, and he was receptive to that. What was it
about their approach that made you to accept Islam? Let me tell you some brand sisters.
You will not believe this
you will not believe this is the human touch. The feeling of concern in one of the things that the Nation of Islam had. And you can't argue this is that when they dealt with their people, they had this love.
We don't they don't feel that from us. Even when we give Dawa it's like, you know, it's like,
you're not interested in Islam Are You?
Here, you know, I mean, it's like they're like in your in your face. And like your brother, man, what's happening, man, you know, that's the way they want. And that's part of it. So it's not only the message, it is even the approach and the confidence that they had. See the Nation of Islam on terrorism, argue with Sunni Muslims, I blow them away. In the Nation of Islam, I was ignorant, right. But one thing that we had in the Nation of Islam was confidence, you will find out sometimes the difference between a great athlete
and an ordinary one
of both similar talents
is confidence that superstars is is is supremely confident in their ability in the Nation of Islam they were confident in the other thing that they had going for them is that black people were so oppressed, so that when the Nation of Islam came, talking about the oppression that appealed to the African Americans.
So we brothers and sisters have to speak to the injustices that the people suffer in this society.
This is another this is another issue.
Do you feel is right to have gender segregation? I don't think Malcolm X would have liked it.
The theater can be split vertically instead of horizontally for sisters have a closer interaction with the speakers. All right. Yeah, I don't you know, I don't we don't mind that. But we want to get away from this knowledge. The conference theme is what would the Prophet do? Right. Now what Malcolm would do, because Mark was not the criterion. Mark was not loose with what the prophet is. So even this, the women came to the Prophet Alayhi salat wa salam, and said that you teach the men give us a day where you can teach us. So he was always concerned about the free mingling of the sexes. So if the issue is segregation, the issue of segregation is Islamic. It's for protection of the men and
the women, sometimes in some conferences is okay. They have a place for the families they want to sit together husband wife, that's okay. Now, if the issue is one of Nana's space, it's okay. We can do it either way. We could do it vertically. That's I don't think that's a problem. You know, but the problem is, I tell you some about men and women. See,
men and women.
Say, you say what you want to say. I know the reality is that
you know, when a man is standing next to
and a woman stand next to man. Some happens, some kind of electricity or some,
some kind of something. It misses the brain of the brother.
He can't think anymore.
But you know, Brandon says I'm telling you something. It's wise. If I If it were up to me, high schools, I would have a separate High School for the men and a separate High School for the woman. It was up to me. It was up to me, I would have a separate junior high school for the men and the women.
It was up to me.
I'm serious. You think I'm kidding. You go to the schools in New York City. And you'll see at the age of four, five and six, the problems between the sexes. I'm telling you brothers, sisters, we know Islam is right and exact, and I'm telling you, it you do yourself a favor, to separate the two until they ready to get married. One of the problems in this society is a free intermingling of the sexes. So I don't have a problem with with the, with the segregation. And Malcolm as you know, I tell you one thing about Malcolm, Malcolm kept growing
in you know, and and, and one thing about Malcolm, you and his daughter said it, that one thing about him is that once you heard the truth, he accepted it. And Malcolm kept growing and growing and growing and growing and growing from the law. And by the way,
I think that in time, you will see most of the people, the Nation of Islam become a Muslims. I've spoken to the head of the Nation of Islam minister louis farrakhan on a number of occasions. And they've made a number of changes over the years, I've been fighting with him trying to get him to put his community in the nation to bring them to orthodox Islam. And hamdulillah is getting closer and closer and closer. And I think ultimately, all of them will be Muslims on them.
Okay, a number of questions. What is the Nation of Islam? What is his teachings? I'll do more of that this afternoon, inshallah.
got five minutes to go. Anyone else got a question from the guesser.
again, the question about the nation with some theology I'll do in a second session this afternoon. Oh, the second was a different question was similar to it.
This Morning about that, okay, I say hello, Adam. All that I know. All that I know is that he believed. He taught what he taught. Listen, my point here. I never questioned a person's Nia, I leave that to Allah subhanho wa Taala only thing that I can judge and we can judge what people say and what they do, according to what he said and what he did. It's against Islam. 100%. And you don't even have to go to all the theology. Just one point. If you look at the newspaper today called the final call. There's a point number 12 what the Muslims believe. Even today, it says we believe that God came in the person of master fraud, Mohammed, this shirt once that's there, it's finished. I
don't know him to have denounced that. And the problem is if you read his book, his book is full of those misconceptions about Islam. And the problem is, is that these books are still being sold. Without saying, We no longer believe in that and that's problematic. really understood that to be honest with you.
What Yes, sir.
The Nation of Islam you cannot say wasn't religious because I was there. I know. It was very, very religious. They prayed. And by the way, the Prophet peace and blessings be upon him said I go more into this afternoon. Salah Kamara, I tune in Sunday prayers. You see me pray in the Nation of Islam, they didn't pray to Mecca. They pray to the east. They didn't make such the Mr. up like that, but a hands out like that it made it
so it you can say it wasn't religious, it was religious and a social movement at the same time. And and because if you study it very much, the Bible the Quran, so was religious movement, both
one more? Yes.
That's a very good question.
panela In my opinion, how many people you think, who were affected by the life of Malcolm became orthodox Muslim? It's, you know, actually really that's very hard, hard to say. But I can say this is that the more we do our job of emphasizing the Islam city of Malcolm,
when people are de emphasized and others are de emphasizing his Islam, then the more of the people will come to say, oh, Malcolm was a Muslim. I like Malcolm, I want to be like Malcolm, but the source of Malcolm was is Islam.
So, though, so no one I don't I've never read anywhere, what's hard figures. But I can tell you this if you do a a poll of many African Americans who converted to Islam, many of them will say Malcolm had something to do with it. Something about Malcolm something I read, I've heard people tell me directly, they became a Muslim after reading all about The Autobiography of Malcolm X directly, when in terms of giving you hardcore numbers, I couldn't do it. So brothers and sisters, may Allah bless you, inshallah, we'll see you this afternoon session, where again, we're going to go into various specific history of Malcolm X, especially the three people accused of assassinating him
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