Shadee Elmasry – NBF 229 Discussion Owen Benjamin &

Shadee Elmasry
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The speakers emphasize the importance of practicing Islam and the benefits of being a member, including the loss of knowledge and fasting during busy seasons and the importance of privacy in religion. They acknowledge the misconceptions of pornography and its negative consequences on society, but emphasize the need for verifying Islam and understanding flaws. The speakers also discuss the negative impact of foreign influence on society and the importance of preserving local community and shirts. They stress the importance of avoiding eye contact and giving too many concessions while avoiding too many clothes.
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Bismillah al Rahman al Rahim Al hamdu lillah wa Salatu was Salam

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ala Rasulillah who are early he was r&b or Manuela welcome

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everybody to the Safina Saudi nothing but facts live stream on a

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Thursday, which is tomorrow was Yo Ma showed up today is the day or

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last stream before a shooter. And so we you we will be discussing

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shoulder today. But first, there was a brother who happened to know

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Owen Benjamin become friends with him, I guess friendly with him to

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the point that he could invite him over to the stream. And I said,

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why not? The more we talk to people, I'm always into talking to

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somebody new.

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And let me begin with what everyone probably may say, Oh,

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you're given a platform just because someone's interested in

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Islam, of course. What do you think we want to do? We want to

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give Dawa and we want and how does that begin? It begins by talking.

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So anybody who is interested in Islam, he's only he's the one that

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respond. We talked to a lot of people. We tried to get a lot of

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people on but you know, their Instagrams accounts or your

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Twitter accounts are so busy. Not everyone gets back. Alright, so

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we're open to talk to anyone who has a genuine inclination towards

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Islam. Right. And so that's, that's, that's the motivation

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clearly, obviously, we don't endorse a lot of things that

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people have done in the past and people. Everyone's got a past.

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Right? If that if you're gonna go that you cannot even have a

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conversation with someone because he has something in the past.

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We say Okay, fine. Where's the line? I would put it as this one.

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If someone is sad, but Rasool sabich Dean someone is a cursor he

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curses your deen

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and never took it back. Never said, Okay, I was young, I made a

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stupid mistake. But he this is an enemy of your religion and devout

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and then what's the purpose of talking? All right, I would say

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this even for another Muslim who has a deviant belief.

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Okay, there will be you know, how we talk is gonna have to be

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moderate. So likewise, here you have a man, he's not a Muslim. So

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the you don't expect him to observe by those rules. But Nate,

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his approach towards Islam, there is some kind of

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leaning towards it. And that's what we want to investigate. So

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we're gonna ask him how Islam even got on your radar, what he finds

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appealing and what stops him from entering slot? Like we're, we're

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very open about what we do here. We this is how

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if it's hot, why don't I invite people to it? Right? And what does

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he feel about Christianity? What does he feel about? What is the

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one of the most destructive forces in society? And who, who, which

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faith is appearing to be or which followers are appealing to

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withstand these things, right to withstand these problems in

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society? And I'm telling you, for Muslims in the world today in the

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west, to just be basically good Muslims. That's it basics. Right?

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You're it's it's it's a it's a massive, stark difference between

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the right where the rest of this country has gone. Just the fact

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alcohol doesn't enter your home, you know, how much that alters

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people's lives. People's up entire upbringing is consumed because the

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dad comes back drunk, and they don't know what's gonna happen,

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right? Their entire upbringing. This is like on their mind, it

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destroys lives, it destroys upbringings, just humble.

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Just the fact. People know and don't know who their parents are.

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Right? You believe that? There's, I was talking to a convert. And he

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was saying that in his family. There's a nephew. We really have

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doubts about him.

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Like my brother's son, like this, not your son, man. And he says,

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No, he's my son. And I say No, he doesn't even look like you. And he

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said, I can find the guy who it is right because people know who's in

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the circle, right? It's that guy's son. That's it discussion.

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Subhan Allah, something 99 times less than that would be a fitna in

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an Islamic in a Muslim marriage and Muslim practicing Muslim

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household 99 times less than that. That's cool to watch. A shutdown

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would never even come close to this. a practicing Muslim family

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why? It's not just you behave well. When you're practicing

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Muslims. Allah protects you. If two people are on the deen of

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Allah subhanaw taala ALLAH SubhanA wa Tada will stop the fitna

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earlier, something would happen and boom

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stops at way earlier. So I'm saying that for Muslims just to

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practice the fundamentals of their deen and have these results.

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People are not aren't stupid, and he's one of the people I don't

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think he's stupid. He sees the big difference. He says these Muslim

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people say what you want about them, they're brown they're from

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other countries and make fun of they don't got these problems.

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Something about their deen is a firewall just seems the

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shutter just does it stops at a certain point. Right? The evil

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just doesn't penetrate at a certain point. Okay. So that's the

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purpose of this and that. So what were

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you know what our intention is with this interview? There's

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another guy want to interview we already became Muslim, but I still

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want to get him on. What was his name? The Norwegian brother

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Bobby's perspective. Yeah. And there was another brother who we

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did this years ago way before the livestream, what was his name?

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This guy was on CNN, his life blew up because he supported Palestine.

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Do you guys remember who that guy was? But his is that he had an

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inclination towards Islam. But we didn't get so far because he's a

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complete, like type of

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perennial list view of things. Like, yeah, I'm Muslim, but

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there's a lot of other truths too. And he's very far on the left.

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That's why it didn't go so far with him. What was his name? guy

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who was on CNN, and then he was pro Palestine got kicked off CNN.

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He's a professor at Temple. Oh, wasn't it? I bought him to MBSE to

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have this type of discussion. Not Don Lemon, not Don Lemon, no. Mark

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Lamont Hill.

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He is a Muslim, like he's Muslim, but a lot of his views are more on

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the left wing side of things than Islam. And I don't and he isn't

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about he's tells you I'm a Muslim. We had great relationship in the

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sense of as brief as it was. He's really nice. He gets along. He's,

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so I enjoyed talking to him. But again, what is my purpose? It's

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Dow. I'm not going to just talk to someone because I need friends. I

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don't need any more friends. Hamdulillah. Right. I'm here to

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talk to people to for the purpose of as a self appointed, I guess

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you can say ambassador for Allah and His messenger. All of us are

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whether we like it or not. And Allah is commanding us to be His

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ambassadors go tell people about the deen talk to them. Okay. And

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that. So I did talk to Mark Lamont Hill, we had some discussions, and

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we never really continued. Right, but at least it's a bridge. He

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knows where I am. Some of the positions in Islam, he just

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couldn't take it his his whole career, his all his friends, his

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whole life, would just he can't get close to someone like myself,

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especially when we say about Comey, Lutz and all that. Right.

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He he can't get too close. So if you're very cozy with the left

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side of things, there's a limit. I remember like some things he said,

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Well, what do you say about this? Right? I said, you know, about

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like komoot. I said, this is what we say about right?

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And he just went silent. Because you know, like, if he keeps he

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says something like that he's finished axe. So I understand that

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I'm sensitive to that. But that stops him.

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On the right side, I'll tell you what it is. It's Israel. And there

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are a lot of guys who support all of our family values of Islam.

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They liked the fact that it's that we're clear about what we believe.

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And we're not wishy washy, perennial lists who all truths are

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the same. But they can't come too close to us because they're the

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Palestine Israel should they are staunch Zionists. And that's what

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you're going to find from a lot of the

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high end of the leadership of the right.

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Okay, the leadership of the right, they can't come close the Muslims,

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and they have to stop any of this rank and file people being not

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interested in Islam. Their instant Islam because they see this the

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only group of people that is putting up the fight, let me tell

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you something as a criticism within our community, every time I

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look and see,

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oh, a group of Muslims have, you know, marched

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and given interviews on why they believe in the opt out and they

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don't believe and a group of Muslims are speaking out.

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Let me tell you, what's a criticism and what's a problem?

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It is always there always either immigrants, or African Americans.

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African Americans don't know how to speak out. They're not afraid

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of anybody. They've been speaking out for ages. Then they fought

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worse things. Physical brutality that we can't even imagine. Or

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immigrants who don't know what it means to be cool. Don't have that

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on the reference point. Don't have old friends in high school don't

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have that sense. You know, that said the walk in completely

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awkward. He doesn't care. It's not his country. Right? What? There is

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not enough of now the coalition of virtue is led by this by one of

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them second generation, Desi or Arab or ethnic whatever second

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generation,

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Kadeem when he is that right? But there's not a lot of others.

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It's as if the second generation they're too delicate. They just

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they Oh, they still want to be cool. They still want to be within

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they don't want to be cringy. Now these immigrants don't care about

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being cringy Hey, go in there and say I

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I'm here my name was man I am disagree. Er Okay, opt out, blah

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blah blah right?

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He has no none of that softness that delicateness and that's a

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criticism for us this is there is a bad thing about this whole opt

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out this rise up who's leading it? Not the Imams and not the second

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generation

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it's the normal regular most of the moms and immigrant dads and

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some maybe second generation okay

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just looking at a lot of the stuff that judging this from the bird's

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eye view

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of

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you know the testimonials let me let me get let me read you one

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testimonial they play for you a clip okay. Just listen to this

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brother. Okay.

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Let's do this brother

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Good afternoon everyone. My name is Theodore Schmidt. I'm testified

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today as a US citizen who live on the county council Orthodox

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Christian parent in us and communication targeting the

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protest against your decision to add LGBTQ books you made it clear

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that it was no phaser someone identifies audition of pro LGBTQ

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books in elementary school as you get the point right. The guy

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doesn't care any one of his next generation second generation

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Wilson would really be soften it up and maybe not do it all that

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stuff. Right.

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So that's where we stand and that's a little criticism. How are

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we on this interview? Where are we is it going on? Did our brother

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our middleman get back to us

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yeah

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good

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learning Adam says Bobby got a digital attack apparently lately.

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Well, what happens and who attacked him?

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What do you mean a digital attack?

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Listen, any of you listeners know of anyone

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from outside the community of Islam who was interested to

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learning about this? Okay.

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Learning about Islam has any inclination towards Islam? You

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tell us we want to bring them on and talk. Right? And oh, why don't

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you talk in private because people talk in private these public

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personality don't have time to talk in private right?

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And we want everyone to see the conversation what they say on the

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record lasts a long time. Right? That's what's important. All

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right, still people by the way that Imran Hussain video was like

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five to double the views of every other video because they got so

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triggered triggered by it. Okay, so

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thing is about

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what is wrong with saying something about Imran Hussain?

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When it says methodology we didn't criticize the man or spread any

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slanders about the man but you know people are just you know what

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they are

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okay

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all right let's take any q&a Now because we're probably not going

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to be taking many q&a

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afterwards because we have to read about give a short

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you know, I wish we could have done more but this interview came

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up at this time about a shooter and we can inshallah continue

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talking about our shooter later afterwards. Nothing stops us from

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continuing on Monday

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Yep, they're back.

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Because all his followers

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know that y'all YouTube addicts in 19 years old, unemployed. No

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offense to you guys. But that's how you appear if you're doing

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this. Tell me something. Does anyone with a regular job, go

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around? You know, commenting incessantly like this for days and

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days and days and repeating the same comment no one with a job do

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that.

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What is our shoulder and what is the reward of it?

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Our shoulder has many many benefits and blessings amongst

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them is that it's a day that the Arabs always fasted, okay.

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It's a day that the Arabs lost the knowledge of why they fasted in

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Mecca these vessel shooter

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and the reason they fasted shooter had to do with

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the sin Abraham and sin Ismail are shorter is the day that Allah

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selected according to a thought we're not going to say so he had

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it's a thought that Allah selected for many momentous events

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such as

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the flood of knew that they were saved on our shooter

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or was it the sorry the they landed on our shooter?

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Okay,

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the Benny is Surah Eid were saved. Okay, okay. They were saved on

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Assura Benissa were saved on a shoot.

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So our shooter became a day in which the Ismail said followers

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are Satanists made fasted, and the juice fast, except that the

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followers of Satanists made last the reason they forgot the reason

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why they fast that day, which you can which happens, right? People

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have events people have things in which

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you know, things happen in the side and they forgot the origin of

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it.

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Halloween is one of those examples, people just took a treat

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but the origin of it, it has an origin people forget the origin.

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So

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when the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam arrived at Medina he

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found the Jews also fasting it so we asked what you fasted to? He

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said, Yes, on this day, the Red Sea was split for us. We were

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saved from frown, because of on this day, so we fast so the

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Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said that we are more

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worthy of fasting it so we fast two days, so too fast. I showed us

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one day you get the reward of Assura cleansing of sense. Okay,

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heavy, Ballmer said it's like highlighting files in your

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computer, hit one button Delete. This is what we do with our sins.

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Right? And some of y'all asked to eat what do you mean to easy? Why

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would you get involved in Allah's decision? If that's how Allah

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wants to treat our minors Now, what does it not? It does not

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alter your debts, you offended somebody. Okay, certain things you

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still have to fix. The sin of the action can be deleted. Okay. But

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the result of the action has to be addressed. Okay. result of the

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action being for example, you offended somebody, okay, the

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sinfulness of this behavior, fine. We can remove that can delete that

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with ease, but the offense that you did to somebody

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we have to do address. All right, our guest is here.

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Let's do a Mic check. Dragwon check to

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check your mic real quick. Someone's maybe it's all right.

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Thank you very much.

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All right. Oh, and Benjamin, thank you very much for coming on. I

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think a lot of our audience do know who you are. And, but some of

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them don't. So while I'm about to you adjust the camera, so it's

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like, he's a bit we're making make us even in our sights.

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That's good. Perfect. Yeah. And sorry for being late. I thought it

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was 130 Pacific Standard Time. So no problem. No problem at all. No

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problem at all. So

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I want to tell everyone that Owen Benjamin is an outspoken former

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comedian formerly in the world of entertainment, and lives in in New

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York, upstate New York. So you're actually not that far. I know. I

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don't know. It's Idaho. Yeah. I thought it was Oswego, New York.

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That's your hometown. That's where I'm from. That's how I was born.

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Okay. So now you're

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that's mountain time. Now, Pacific Standard Time. All right. Yeah.

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Yeah. Okay. I don't even remember where Idaho is on the map, to be

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honest with you. It's like Montana, if you actually look at

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the border of Montana and Idaho. Yeah, I swear to God, it looks

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like Joe Biden is smelling somebody. If you look at it. It's

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his exact

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shine. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, well, now, they'll do comedy. I just

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don't do it in the B system anymore, but we do that something

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fun to talk about, about how we got out of that because I got

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banned from all the clubs and theaters because I was making fun

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of *. And that's a big, that's a big no, no for the bees.

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So, you know, I still do comedy, but it's just private. You know,

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it's

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it's so funny that one of my one reason why I'm into talking to you

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is one of my best friends is Muslim. And he showed me you know,

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how things are controlled with usury and stuff like that. And so

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like to get around the debt, because that's how all these

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theaters and clubs are controlled. Is there on debt. And so the

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whoever controls the, the what's it called Reba owns the theater.

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So it's like, so I really got to see behind the scenes a lot

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spiritually when it came to how things are control because it made

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no sense. I was like, wrapped at CAA. I've been in Sandler movies.

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You know, Comedy Central specials that was Vince Vaughn's closing

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act. I was a lead of a sitcom for three years like I was my pictures

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painted on the wall of the Hollywood improv like I wasn't

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some spring chicken and to watch them shut me down. It wasn't

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because I was arrested or anything or it wasn't because of a morality

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issue was because I wouldn't go with the trans kid issue or out

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and I was openly making fun of it.

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* and it wasn't like I was being crazy about it. I was just

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doing this bit about how gross it is because I had a gay friend that

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was like, Oh, you like lemon grass, and I'm not gonna insult

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your audience with vulgarity here. But I started making fun of him

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about what he's into, you know. And so I didn't realize that that

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was one of the pillars of the peace system is you got to promote

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Simon then to see how usury controls the whole matrix. I was

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like, wow, I didn't even know what the word usury was. And so, yeah,

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that's why I've been, you know, the spells around Islam for me

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broke with the 911 truth or stuff. Because that's such a key

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component, like they tell what they want our freedom or whatever.

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And then to really see like, how many things you guys are aware of

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morally that keep you know, the gender roles and the usury and all

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that stuff? It's been really an amazing experience. So that's a

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little background on me. Okay, good. So the private equity firms

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that run that, that invest in media and comedy and and

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Hollywood, there are only a few in number right now. Yeah, recently,

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someone had put something out there that all of this is driven

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by only a handful of private equity firms. So you're the second

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one who's who's made that same? So who are some what are some of

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these private equity firms? Are they known in the public sphere?

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Well, if you just look at those pyramids, you can just the higher

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up you go, the more you just see that they are just controlled by a

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small amount of people. I mean, you have the big ones, like you

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know, Disney, and then Viacom and all that. But the higher up you

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go, it gets real spooky. I remember like during the COVID

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stuff,

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that one of the biggest holding companies is called jab holdings,

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literally J A B, they love these little jokes. And they own Panera

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Bread, Beyonce, like they own Beyonce. I'm like, why?

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Like all these little puppets that they have? Yeah, it is a small

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group. And but the thing I focused on as the as the grassroots ground

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up stuff, because I just don't look up. I don't look at them as

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much as I used to, I just see them as like a den of vipers. And I

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just look more to like, I farm and I have four sons and I, you know,

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I do my live streams, I tried to build a try to build a replacement

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for everything that I see is bad. Like, we have a totally clean

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social media called bear Taria times where we don't allow

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vulgarity. We don't even allow truther stuff. And I'm like a

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truther guy. And because I wanted to replay it with no debt, no

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outside forces, you know. And so that's what I focused on. I used

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to look at the who they like, whose day and I went down all

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those rabbit holes, and I got really mad at, you know, Zionism

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and all that stuff. And then I started being like, well, you

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know, they can't stop the sun from shining and the fruit from growing

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and that's, that's where I'm focused now. So you're you have

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this motivation. Now, what is your main driving force?

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is Christianity or is it Well, I mean, Christians, I've had a riff

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with a lot of quote unquote Christians, because I always

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consider my Well, not always, but for the last several years

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consider myself Christian, but I'm not into the Trinity. And

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you know, and I'm not even like mad about it. I just asked Who is

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Jesus praying to? And that sparked this, like, horrible fight on the

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internet. And so it's one reason why I think I've some of my Muslim

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listeners relate to me is because apparently, in Islam, you know,

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Jesus was praying to God and so because my question was always,

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why would God pray to himself and it's very, and I had no agenda

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around it either. I want to go to a church like I'm not like this

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dogma shaking religious guy, like I'm not, you know, I like to not

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idle smash people's religion as much as possible. But at the same

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time, I'm like, Well, you know, and then I made fun of Paul a bit,

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and because I'm like, so So Paul was the last prophet that because

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God can't or Jesus, who you claim is God came to Paul. So therefore,

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Paul, and then they're like, they just get really mad. A lot of

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Christians don't get mad. A lot of them are really great people. But

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the ones that you know, seem to really want to hold that monopoly

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on only through us do you get to God.

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There was a real riff and that's why I talked to like Eddie, you

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know, from the deen show and all these guys because I related a lot

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to

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to Islamic scholarship when it comes to when it comes to that,

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you know, so what do you think is the biggest issue that your you

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tweet a lot as if there's a matrix A, a destructive force in the

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country? Yeah. Why don't you expand a little bit that and this

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Second question is who or what is resisting it? In your view? And

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your great question? Yeah. Well, I mean, I think, man, it's like

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every week I almost would have a different answer. That's an

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interesting question. I, I think the matrix is almost like a set of

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agreements in your own head, where it's like,

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that's why I like to what they call spell break. They say, you

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know, on Benjamin, the Bard, king of bear tardy breaker of spells,

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Millgrove, goat goats, you know.

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That's another funny thing is, I have a ton of goats now. And so

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and people, well, we'll get into that another time anyway. Go to

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but it didn't end very well. What happened? You're not allowed to

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have them in the city. So they just took it away. I had to turn

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it back to the form. So yeah. Oh, nice. Yeah. I liked it. You had

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you had the audacity to get it going to say that. Like that?

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Well, we were in the middle of the city where a place where people

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wouldn't complain about it. And we have a yard where we where we're

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at. But there was construction on the road. So a cop was walking

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back and forth, saw the goat and then decided to call us in. So

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that's how the our goat got taken away. But continue.

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Oh, yeah. So I think the matrix is almost like, in your head. It's

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like a set of agreements, like what do you like, that's why I

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like to spell break a lot of these deceptions. Like, why these media

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based deceptions? Because I think the matrix is anytime you're not

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having gratitude. And you're just accepting your, you're basing your

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actions on an on like a given like in a logic proof. It's called a

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given like x equals four, y equals three, like your Givens are off.

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And so you're in this like, deranged matrix world. And I think

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that there are people that do create that, to keep people in

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this * scape, you know, like, ingratitude is a big problem. And

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I, I became friends with the artist formerly known as Kanye

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West, you know, yay, and his quote, and we had a long talk

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about this once that he said, slavery is a choice. And that's

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what got people so mad at them, because the victim narrative that

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a lot of African Americans have, is that they will always be this

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victimized class and yay, said slavery is a choice. And that, you

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know, I related to St. Augustine, when he said, talked about that,

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too, like, you're, you're only a slave to your vices. And so I

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think the matrix is, you know, trying to keep you drunk and dumb

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and sterile and without family and alone and isolated and ungrateful

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and all that that's how you make a man in a state of slavery to

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to the world and not God, you know, and so I I think fighting

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against that, that the number one thing which I know you guys teach

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in Islam, which is really cool, because I tweeted about this and a

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lot of Muslims really pumped about about, it's just gratitude, you

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know, like our, our family prays every meal just to be like, What

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are you thankful for? And when you're grateful to like, mercy,

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you know, the Merciful God and the provider, you don't fall in the

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traps as much because I think

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ingratitude is pretty much the quickest, fastest highway to

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slavery by, you know, the evil the devil, the rebellion, the envious

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one, the shaytaan, you know, like, it's, it's there. And it's like,

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there is a, an abstract evil in this world that is envious and

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wants to be God and can't be God and wants you in his army. But

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like, he's always throwing his own soldiers in the fire like he hates

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anyone who loves him, you know, it's really interesting. So he

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when you talk about this in Idaho, I don't think there's much of a

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Muslim community because I want to ask you what do you your

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comparison your view of things? Which you see how Muslims you

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don't do you get to see how Muslims live at all?

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Well, yeah, one of my best friends up here is Muslim as I said, and I

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know a lot I know people that that are Muslim adjacent up here, but a

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lot of them are like Christians. It's like one of my my Muslim

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friend was like, Jesus peace be upon him is what he said to me

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guys brought the word it just got really corrupted by the churches.

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So really authentic Christians and authentic Muslims actually get

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along really well and there's not this huge rift that people think

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there are you know, it's like

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you know, that if you really read what Jesus said and really think

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about it, it's not off the Islamic way of life and that most of the

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lies are in the dogma you know, it's in like that. Like it's in

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like some of these. What's it called the Scofield Bible and all

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this you know, like all these like manipulations, and so yeah, there

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isn't a mosque up here like my buddy goes to Spokane.

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to a mosque there, but there is a way of life here that I find

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deeply spiritual and deeply connected to God, you know,

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because it's very agricultural, very homestudy very family

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oriented. And that way of life gets along really well. I mean,

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there's a lot of

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like really more like herbal St. I wouldn't call them pagan, because

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they're not, I don't know how to describe it, but just kind of like

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really into,

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you know, herbs and nature and hunting and all that stuff. And

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they get along great with, you know, they'd get along great with

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Muslims, because they're just all about the truth. You know, let me

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tell you this, there was a guy who said,

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he put up a picture of some degeneracy and a video of some

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really stuff that you find on lives of Tiktok. Right, put that

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up. And he said, The future is either this, or it's Christian

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nationalism. Right. So my response to that was, I don't think that's

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the case, because Christianity had 100% monopoly. over the continent,

00:31:06 --> 00:31:09

there was the only religious message, and you had every, all

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the forces supporting it, yet it led to this. So it's one thing it

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is true that most of a practicing Muslim practicing Christian, we're

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going to get along well, but when we're talking about strategy,

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we're talking about the past, how did we get here?

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And this is one of the biggest points that Muslims bring forward

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is that we got here because of the flaws embedded in Christianity.

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Okay. Now, I know that you said earlier, I don't want to smash

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anyone's religious, so I'm not gonna ask you to do that. But I'm

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telling you the our perspective, the flaws within a Christian with

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the flaws within Christianity is what led to this. Right? The

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inability to convince large, massive swaths of generations to

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choose that path over a path of temptation. You look back at the

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time of Elvis is a great comparison. Like he inflames so

00:32:03 --> 00:32:07

many temptations and desire that whole culture, right? Yeah, that

00:32:07 --> 00:32:10

whole generation had a choice to make, right. And you got to look

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at the big swath. So my response was, of course, the guy didn't

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respond back, I said, You guys had a whole 200 years, 300 years.

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We're here because that medicine didn't do the job. So my question

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to you is, you have a lot of tweets, talking about Muslims, you

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know, being resistant to these things. That's what I want you to

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talk about what drives you to make those tweets, you're making the

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same observations we made, right, because I'm a truther. So it's

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like, Whatever the truth is, I'll talk about but I will say this,

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humans are capable of bending and twisting the truth. And I, you

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know, because I can see, there's certain forces in Islamic culture

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that could end up being nonsense, like what happened in Catholicism

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where they're just worshipping bones, and a guy's got a big

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phallus on his head, you know, it's like, with like, naked kids

00:33:04 --> 00:33:06

all over the Vatican, like, you know, how do you get to that

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point? And so I think the advantage Islam has is there's

00:33:10 --> 00:33:13

only one Qur'an, like, I like to look at the fundamentals, where

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it's like, because Christianity should work, but why does it keep

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getting twist? Like why do they keep saying boat? This is the

00:33:20 --> 00:33:23

phrase that really I think gets people in a bad spot, but what he

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really means is, and then you just start doing this Talmudic

00:33:30 --> 00:33:34

reformatting definitions of words, and anyone can do that. Like,

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like, if you look at like the Andrew take right now, like he

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will throw out stuff that is very questionably Islamic, you know,

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and

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and you're just like, is there forces at work in Islam? Because

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Islam is

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where you can start saying, Well, you know, to be a good Muslim you

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got to act like Andrew Tate and get a bunch of webcam girls in

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Romania. And but you know, and you're like, Well, this is what

00:34:02 --> 00:34:07

happened to Christian because if you look at Christianity in 1850,

00:34:07 --> 00:34:09

it looks a lot like they're following Sharia law. You know,

00:34:09 --> 00:34:12

you have women covering their heads, they're wearing long

00:34:12 --> 00:34:17

dresses, women are not to be on accompanied by you know, on a

00:34:17 --> 00:34:20

company without their husband all this stuff and you're like, so how

00:34:20 --> 00:34:24

did you get to Coldplay concerts in a mega church with rainbow

00:34:24 --> 00:34:28

flags? Like how do you get to that point? You know, and so I think

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the advantage Islam has that I really hope you guys hold on to is

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you know, it's uh, the Koran doesn't change and you guys all

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learn the same language like imagine if the Bible you like

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learned it in Sanskrit, and it was one version and you can't just

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keep manipulating it. I think a really strong thing in Islam right

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now is that the Quran and Arabic is learned by children and they

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know all the words and so it makes it way harder to manipulate and

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bend and say, Well, I you know,

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The King James Version, this version, you know, because then

00:35:03 --> 00:35:07

you just get in, it's almost like my friend Vox calls him Bible

00:35:07 --> 00:35:12

lawyers where they're like, they're like arguing points. Like

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it's more about their will, it's very satanic. It's very like, do

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as thou will, where you're like, where you're just trying to make

00:35:18 --> 00:35:22

an argument to justify your behavior. And so I know Muslims

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are capable of doing that, because all humans are like, we all have

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that temptation. And when people pretend they don't like when

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people pretend they're self righteous, that's a real problem.

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But I think the fundamental of one Qur'an where you memorize it, when

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you're young is a huge advantage. And I would, I would be very happy

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if if there was that in Christianity, but like the

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translations and the fractured nature of it, I think can get a

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little. It's almost like it's like a crack in a sidewalk where it

00:35:53 --> 00:35:56

opens it up for more cracks. Well, let me tell you this, like,

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part of you said, what you said, was 100% True, the Prophet peace

00:36:01 --> 00:36:05

be upon him said that Judaism would divide up in 71 sects.

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Right, which either it's literally 71, or it's a lot of sects,

00:36:11 --> 00:36:14

Christianity, you know, they say there's 72 genders. Like, it's

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funny how these words line up, like

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Christianity will divide up into 72 sects. And he said, and this

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nation will divide into 73 sects. So the point being, is that the

00:36:30 --> 00:36:34

ways of misguidance our ways of human behavior, right? Human

00:36:34 --> 00:36:38

beings do the same thing. Now, but where's the difference? The

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difference is that so in one sense, the Prophet is saying,

00:36:42 --> 00:36:45

we'll have even more Muslims will have even more

00:36:47 --> 00:36:52

strands of misguidance within it, then the previous two religions,

00:36:53 --> 00:36:55

but the difference is the follow up question. They said, Well,

00:36:55 --> 00:36:59

which one do we follow Him, messenger of God. And he said, the

00:36:59 --> 00:37:03

mainstream, which is the difference being good, and the

00:37:03 --> 00:37:09

divine protection of the of Islam is that the sects get marginalized

00:37:09 --> 00:37:13

real quick. So we never negate their presence, but they get

00:37:13 --> 00:37:16

marginalized real quick. And the reason they get marginalized real

00:37:16 --> 00:37:18

quick, they don't exist, you can find them in the books, you can

00:37:18 --> 00:37:23

find them online, you can find people, but they will never infect

00:37:23 --> 00:37:28

the mainstream permanently. And the reason is that the way the

00:37:28 --> 00:37:30

Prophet taught was public,

00:37:31 --> 00:37:37

the, the Quran was recited publicly, five times more than

00:37:37 --> 00:37:40

five times five times in every mosque. And in Medina, there were

00:37:40 --> 00:37:45

like, 10, at least 10 masajid. So that's fifth, well take out the

00:37:45 --> 00:37:49

silent prayer. So that's 30 times at the very least. So the you

00:37:49 --> 00:37:53

cannot corrupt something that is public, everybody knows it. And

00:37:53 --> 00:37:57

there's no one central organization, unlike churches tend

00:37:57 --> 00:38:02

to be centralized organizations. So the theology of Islam is never

00:38:02 --> 00:38:04

it was something that was just spoken publicly in front of

00:38:04 --> 00:38:09

everybody. So that if I want to go off back to my city, and cook

00:38:09 --> 00:38:13

something up, right, that is bending to my will, that serves my

00:38:13 --> 00:38:17

people and myself, I could probably do that and get away with

00:38:17 --> 00:38:21

it until another Muslim comes in. Yeah, exactly. Right. And he

00:38:21 --> 00:38:25

claims the fraud that's in the Bible. That's why the main problem

00:38:25 --> 00:38:29

with Christianity is they're not listening to Jesus, like Jesus

00:38:29 --> 00:38:33

said, or two or three, gather in my name, that's a church and Jesus

00:38:33 --> 00:38:39

also did everything publicly. Like it was all about the public and

00:38:39 --> 00:38:43

like having the word be accessible to everybody. Yeah. And so that's

00:38:43 --> 00:38:46

why it's frustrating sometimes to see Christianity because it's,

00:38:46 --> 00:38:51

it's that's in the Bible, you know, and Jesus would say, you

00:38:51 --> 00:38:53

know, when people would try and worship them, you'd say, No,

00:38:53 --> 00:38:57

worship my worship God. And then people are like, oh, so that means

00:38:57 --> 00:39:00

your God. And it's like, no, that's how you create the idol.

00:39:00 --> 00:39:04

That that allows this all in that's why I don't and that's

00:39:04 --> 00:39:07

really cool. You guys are like that. I like that like the public

00:39:07 --> 00:39:12

repetition of what the standard is decentralize it because yeah, the

00:39:12 --> 00:39:15

Catholic Church is a nightmare. It's like that centralized

00:39:15 --> 00:39:19

political control. And you know, that's kind of what happened with

00:39:19 --> 00:39:22

Israel like Israel and the Vatican are very similar with like, they

00:39:22 --> 00:39:26

put they made it a political entity, you know, like the Vatican

00:39:26 --> 00:39:29

is a nation state it's a country Yeah. And the same thing happened

00:39:29 --> 00:39:32

with Israel. That's why I know a good amount of my Jewish friends

00:39:32 --> 00:39:35

aren't even into Israel because they think it kind of undercuts

00:39:35 --> 00:39:39

their their religion because they're not supposed to have it

00:39:39 --> 00:39:43

until they get the their Moshiach or whatever. So it's, it's

00:39:43 --> 00:39:47

interesting stuff. I just, I judged by the fruits and I see

00:39:47 --> 00:39:52

Muslims with large families. I see them as grateful happy people.

00:39:52 --> 00:39:55

Typically, you know, you're always going to have your issues but I

00:39:55 --> 00:39:58

really liked that. Mohammed talked about how the hypocrites

00:39:59 --> 00:39:59

it

00:40:00 --> 00:40:04

Is is, you know, the worst of them all like the ones that do these

00:40:04 --> 00:40:05

these

00:40:06 --> 00:40:09

these public acts, but privately they're cynical and self

00:40:09 --> 00:40:13

righteous. And I just think that you know, I'm I enjoy a lot of

00:40:13 --> 00:40:17

your communities and you know like, like Dearborn Michigan I can

00:40:17 --> 00:40:20

tour and and I can't do are in New York and I'm a I'm a comedian, I'm

00:40:20 --> 00:40:25

an American. So it's like, that's crazy ironies are wild, you know,

00:40:25 --> 00:40:28

like I could tour right now in Saudi Arabia easier than I could

00:40:28 --> 00:40:33

in San Francisco. That's crazy. Yeah. And I like to point that out

00:40:33 --> 00:40:36

on Twitter because I like to show it in people's faces, what their

00:40:36 --> 00:40:40

freedom actually got them like, quote unquote, Freedom is slavery,

00:40:40 --> 00:40:45

you know, what is the end times like in the version of

00:40:45 --> 00:40:49

Christianity that you look up to that you that you take inspiration

00:40:49 --> 00:40:53

from? What are they have about the end times, because this is the end

00:40:53 --> 00:40:56

times, is an extremely important theme for Muslims for a certain

00:40:56 --> 00:41:00

reason is that we're living so far removed from the time of the

00:41:00 --> 00:41:04

Prophet peace be upon him. And one of the greatest drivers of Muslims

00:41:04 --> 00:41:08

faith is reading the prophecies of the End Times. And when they

00:41:08 --> 00:41:12

Muslim reads that, it's as if the prophet is living right amongst

00:41:12 --> 00:41:16

us. And it's and what a prophet is, how does it profit, validate

00:41:16 --> 00:41:20

himself, right? That he's truthful. If one person comes in

00:41:20 --> 00:41:24

and says, follow this, we in Islam, we don't follow one single

00:41:24 --> 00:41:28

claim? Once you bring it with three, four claims, or bring five,

00:41:28 --> 00:41:32

six people to verify this person, then we can follow it right?

00:41:32 --> 00:41:34

That's That's how our study of transmission is like that.

00:41:36 --> 00:41:40

How do you verify a prophet who has the moral capacity to verify a

00:41:40 --> 00:41:43

prophet? Nobody, right? Only people verify their equals, right?

00:41:44 --> 00:41:48

So prophets come and God verifies them by prophecies, the one thing

00:41:48 --> 00:41:52

we all agree is out of our control is the future. So if you are

00:41:52 --> 00:41:55

talking to God, and the only God knows the future, we all agree on

00:41:55 --> 00:41:58

that. Tell us something about the future. That's your verification.

00:41:59 --> 00:42:04

Good. So the prophecies of the Prophet came a lot of them early

00:42:04 --> 00:42:08

on, for the companions. And for the first generation, then you

00:42:08 --> 00:42:11

have a gap. A lot of prophecies did not occur for the middle

00:42:11 --> 00:42:14

period. And that's because they Muslims didn't need them. Right?

00:42:14 --> 00:42:18

You had massive Muslim empires, they didn't need to be convinced

00:42:18 --> 00:42:21

of Islam, the world convinced them of Islam. The success of the

00:42:21 --> 00:42:26

nation of Muslims convinced them, but you come to the end time, and

00:42:26 --> 00:42:30

now you have Muslims scattered all over the place. And you have

00:42:30 --> 00:42:33

crisis after crisis. There's not one single Islamic country that

00:42:33 --> 00:42:37

you could say, Wow, this is it. This is our beacon for the world.

00:42:37 --> 00:42:42

Right? So what drives Muslims, individuals to hold on to their

00:42:42 --> 00:42:46

faith? It's the prophecies of the End Times. And you have little

00:42:46 --> 00:42:49

booklets of these prophecies. The manuscripts are still there. It's

00:42:49 --> 00:42:51

not something someone made up.

00:42:52 --> 00:42:54

The manuscripts have been there for centuries. Nobody knew what it

00:42:54 --> 00:42:57

really means. We know what it means, like we see it right in

00:42:57 --> 00:43:03

front of us. So here's the question is what does that drive

00:43:03 --> 00:43:07

Christian communities to? Because this is our biggest driving force,

00:43:07 --> 00:43:10

or one of our, I should say, one of our massive driving forces. And

00:43:10 --> 00:43:14

even there's a prophecy about that. There's a prophecy that the

00:43:14 --> 00:43:17

Prophet peace be upon him said, you will see things you've never

00:43:17 --> 00:43:20

seen before, then someone in the gathering will say, Did the

00:43:20 --> 00:43:24

Prophet say something about it? Right. So the very discussion

00:43:24 --> 00:43:29

about endtime prophecies is a prophecy. So Paula, so that's my

00:43:29 --> 00:43:35

question to the Christian world do they have a concept that helps fit

00:43:36 --> 00:43:40

all that's happening into a framework? For the end of times?

00:43:40 --> 00:43:43

Well, I don't want to speak for the Christian world because you

00:43:43 --> 00:43:46

know, I'm seen as quite a controversial figure in that

00:43:46 --> 00:43:50

world. So just to put that out there that I'm not great represent

00:43:51 --> 00:43:54

representation of mainstream Christianity but I think the

00:43:54 --> 00:43:59

return of Christ and all knees will bend is something that they

00:43:59 --> 00:44:05

really look forward to. And I personally am not as then times

00:44:05 --> 00:44:11

motivated, I look at the daily fractal reality of what people

00:44:11 --> 00:44:16

say. I will say this though one of the most impressive prophecies of

00:44:16 --> 00:44:21

Mohammed was the airplane, you know, that's insane. Like my

00:44:21 --> 00:44:24

friend was reading me the description of the airplane and

00:44:24 --> 00:44:26

that was that was pretty cool

00:44:27 --> 00:44:31

but but yeah, I'm not I'm personally because I That's why I

00:44:31 --> 00:44:35

don't represent you know, mainstream Christian thought but I

00:44:35 --> 00:44:39

don't really think about the 10 times as much as maybe I should

00:44:39 --> 00:44:43

but I just think more about the daily fractal reality where like,

00:44:43 --> 00:44:47

if you live in a certain way, what is your life like? Like are you

00:44:47 --> 00:44:52

feel blessed? Do you see the fruit do you have the and the, I would

00:44:52 --> 00:44:57

say, like one of the greatest prophecies of Islam and

00:44:57 --> 00:45:00

Christianity if it's followed properly.

00:45:00 --> 00:45:03

aid is just the resistance to the evil you see right now, you know,

00:45:03 --> 00:45:08

and I know some hardcore Christian nationalists that really respected

00:45:08 --> 00:45:14

watching Qatar, not buckle to Globo homo as we like to call it.

00:45:15 --> 00:45:19

And that was a big bridge, like to see resistance to see men with the

00:45:19 --> 00:45:20

ability of saying,

00:45:21 --> 00:45:28

No, is to me incredibly validating for somebody's religion because

00:45:28 --> 00:45:32

everything else is just words. You know, it's like, if you have the

00:45:32 --> 00:45:37

ability of, you know, and I and some of my British listeners have

00:45:37 --> 00:45:40

gotten, you know, they don't like mass migration, but I always tell

00:45:40 --> 00:45:43

them, that's not Islam. That's mass migration. That's like

00:45:43 --> 00:45:47

saying, Mexicans coming in to Texas is a Christian invasion.

00:45:47 --> 00:45:51

It's like a rhetorically inaccurate thing. But one thing

00:45:51 --> 00:45:57

they will say is the most hands on anti LGBT parents are the Muslim

00:45:57 --> 00:46:03

immigrants. And that's powerful. And so for your listeners, that is

00:46:03 --> 00:46:09

that does work on people that could normally hate you. I'm

00:46:09 --> 00:46:11

actually really respect when you do that, like when you have the

00:46:11 --> 00:46:16

ability of withstanding and standing against the abuse of

00:46:16 --> 00:46:20

children and the grooming of children, and you stand up

00:46:20 --> 00:46:23

publicly for that. That's really powerful. And I think that that is

00:46:23 --> 00:46:25

a really solid

00:46:26 --> 00:46:31

statement to your faith. There's been a couple of things that

00:46:31 --> 00:46:35

altered the relationship between Muslims and conservatives in the

00:46:35 --> 00:46:40

middle of the country. So nine, there was already a preconceived

00:46:40 --> 00:46:45

notion. There was the first Iraq war. Then there was some bombings

00:46:45 --> 00:46:51

that happened in I think, Kenya, right. And then there was a USS

00:46:51 --> 00:46:55

Cole was bombed, then finally 911 was happened. And that basically

00:46:55 --> 00:47:00

put a massive line between conservatives and Muslims, which

00:47:00 --> 00:47:04

is why Muslims, they went to seek refuge more with the left who are

00:47:04 --> 00:47:05

more sympathetic.

00:47:06 --> 00:47:12

The Qatar World Cup, in my opinion, it tied Islam to a global

00:47:12 --> 00:47:17

sport, which very hard to sell, that all these people are

00:47:17 --> 00:47:23

terrorists anymore. Right? Yeah. Like it totally put like bleach on

00:47:23 --> 00:47:29

that. So then recently, this summer, this June, all the opt out

00:47:29 --> 00:47:33

marches, also really got on people's radar, and started making

00:47:34 --> 00:47:37

Alright, the middle of middle America, conservatives say hold on

00:47:37 --> 00:47:42

a second. We can benefit from this. Not only are they no longer,

00:47:42 --> 00:47:47

the terrorism's thing sort of waned away. But also, we'd like

00:47:47 --> 00:47:53

this, we can benefit and you know, they got a result. All right. So

00:47:53 --> 00:47:58

where do you see the future of the general conservative middle of the

00:47:58 --> 00:47:59

country and Muslims going in the future?

00:48:00 --> 00:48:04

That's a That's a good question. I think that the truth around 911

00:48:04 --> 00:48:08

and stuff like that is definitely helped Middle America Islamic

00:48:08 --> 00:48:12

Relations. I mean, I know some dudes that fought in those wars.

00:48:12 --> 00:48:14

And they're now extremely sympathetic to

00:48:15 --> 00:48:19

Islam because they realize the a lot of it had to do with poppies

00:48:19 --> 00:48:21

and their weapons of mass destruction was gold back money

00:48:21 --> 00:48:25

and you know, but for a while we couldn't have even conceived of

00:48:25 --> 00:48:29

that. Yeah, this is the interesting thing about

00:48:30 --> 00:48:34

conservatives quote unquote, is a lot of them the resistance to

00:48:34 --> 00:48:37

Islam is because I think a lot of them want to keep their

00:48:37 --> 00:48:39

* and

00:48:40 --> 00:48:45

their metrosexual lifestyles, I think, I think Islamic practice is

00:48:45 --> 00:48:51

the actual conservatism in America. And so and, and, you

00:48:51 --> 00:48:53

know, I know Christians that are like that, too. I'm not going to

00:48:53 --> 00:48:56

discount Christians that are do that. But if you will get

00:48:56 --> 00:49:00

mainstream conservatism like, you know, like a Dave Rubin is a gay

00:49:00 --> 00:49:05

man, quote, unquote, married to a man who adopted little boys like,

00:49:05 --> 00:49:10

that would be seen as so extreme on the left 15 years ago. Yeah,

00:49:10 --> 00:49:11

that I don't

00:49:13 --> 00:49:16

you know, I just think that that's, that's a situation that's

00:49:16 --> 00:49:18

happening. And I think that

00:49:19 --> 00:49:22

the future belongs to those who have kids and who show up and who

00:49:22 --> 00:49:26

work hard and I think that is you know, the Islamically in America

00:49:26 --> 00:49:29

they're having more kids and with a lot of the Mormons you know,

00:49:29 --> 00:49:35

like, whoever has kids and works hard and stays out of debt and

00:49:35 --> 00:49:38

stays away from sin will win regardless of what people feel or

00:49:38 --> 00:49:41

want. You know, when I see that in the billionaire quote unquote

00:49:41 --> 00:49:45

elite class a lot is they end up with no kids or no grandkids so

00:49:45 --> 00:49:48

their bloodlines dead and yeah, oh, it was all for nothing was all

00:49:48 --> 00:49:53

sand and that's why you know, this obsession with money and status

00:49:53 --> 00:49:56

and stuff like that is really all for the it's all for the birds.

00:49:56 --> 00:50:00

Yeah. It's something that's gonna lower you it's almost as

00:50:00 --> 00:50:02

As if the blessing of wealth

00:50:03 --> 00:50:08

takes away from the blessing of kids. And you end up with the more

00:50:08 --> 00:50:12

impoverished nations within a couple of decades, they're more

00:50:12 --> 00:50:16

populous than you. more populous nations have better economies,

00:50:16 --> 00:50:16

right?

00:50:18 --> 00:50:22

You mentioned some extreme case of a conservative who is gay married

00:50:22 --> 00:50:23

guy, but

00:50:24 --> 00:50:28

in the conservative world is there is *? Is there something

00:50:28 --> 00:50:34

clear in the Bible that talks about the sinfulness of something

00:50:34 --> 00:50:34

like *

00:50:37 --> 00:50:42

was culturally it's a problem for right wing Christian America. It's

00:50:42 --> 00:50:45

a huge problem. And so that's why it's one of the main things I

00:50:45 --> 00:50:48

speak against. And when I toured in the Middle East, I was in Iraq,

00:50:48 --> 00:50:53

Kuwait, Oman, all this performing for the troops. This is like 15

00:50:53 --> 00:50:57

years ago. And when I was trying to act as I used to, like, watch a

00:50:57 --> 00:50:59

lot of *, and now I don't at all, because I realize

00:50:59 --> 00:51:04

it's a trap. But I tried to look at it on my phone, and it was

00:51:04 --> 00:51:08

banned, and I remember getting so mad. And then later, when I saw

00:51:08 --> 00:51:12

the trap of it, I realized that how powerful that is, and that's

00:51:12 --> 00:51:16

why I keep trying to ask, I keep trying to bring that into the

00:51:16 --> 00:51:19

conversation of like, when are we going to ban *? Like, when are

00:51:19 --> 00:51:22

we going to stop treating our women like prostitutes, you know?

00:51:22 --> 00:51:26

And so that's a very, very powerful thing that Muslims should

00:51:26 --> 00:51:30

really hold on to not that I need to tell you guys that but that's

00:51:30 --> 00:51:32

why did that really viral tweet about showing

00:51:34 --> 00:51:38

a billboard in Hollywood? of like a basically naked woman, I don't

00:51:38 --> 00:51:40

know if you saw that tweet in mind bear guy like millions of

00:51:40 --> 00:51:46

impressions. And under it was like a message to Iran about burning

00:51:46 --> 00:51:50

your burger or something. And I did a tweet, like, don't go down

00:51:50 --> 00:51:54

this road. Because right now, this is where it goes like that is not

00:51:54 --> 00:51:57

to enslave you, it is to protect you. Yeah. And you know, like,

00:51:57 --> 00:52:01

there are images of women in these really hot looking things that do

00:52:01 --> 00:52:05

what kind of crazy but from a Western perspective, but it's

00:52:05 --> 00:52:09

good, it's good to cover your body. It's like that, that, that

00:52:09 --> 00:52:14

protection isn't, again, I know that the whispers of the demons

00:52:14 --> 00:52:16

will tell you like, Oh, they're just trying to keep you down. You

00:52:16 --> 00:52:20

should be an airline pilot, you should have like, you should have

00:52:20 --> 00:52:23

all these things. I'm telling you guys, like as I've watched this

00:52:23 --> 00:52:29

happen, and 20 years, it's gotten so bad that like, oh, like it's a

00:52:29 --> 00:52:34

normalized thing in America now to to sell your body on on *

00:52:34 --> 00:52:39

for money. You know, and it's they're all on pills. They're all

00:52:39 --> 00:52:43

alone. They're sad, like a woman's strength is your family. And so it

00:52:43 --> 00:52:46

was funny doing that tweet, because I was basically warning

00:52:46 --> 00:52:50

the Islamic world like, no, like, this is what comes of this, like,

00:52:50 --> 00:52:55

you will see your sister on a billboard naked if you start

00:52:55 --> 00:52:57

listening to this stuff. So I think

00:52:59 --> 00:53:03

*, I think is blatantly outlawed in the Bible. But it

00:53:03 --> 00:53:07

isn't clear. And one thing I've always challenged Christians to do

00:53:07 --> 00:53:10

is kind of come up with laws. That's why I always like to

00:53:10 --> 00:53:14

promote Sharia law. I'm like, that's a set of laws with a moral

00:53:14 --> 00:53:18

compass. Like, don't just get mad at it, if you have problems with

00:53:18 --> 00:53:20

it, which thing do you have a problem with? And what would be

00:53:20 --> 00:53:25

your law based on the Bible and, and the whole, and I think that's

00:53:25 --> 00:53:28

very important. Jesus in the Bible said he wasn't here to overthrow

00:53:28 --> 00:53:31

the law. You know, that's another big misconception is you have

00:53:31 --> 00:53:35

ideas like he would no sin cast the first stone, but then they

00:53:35 --> 00:53:39

don't really explain it. And I was raised Catholic as a kid, they

00:53:39 --> 00:53:42

intentionally don't explain it, that the next part is and now rise

00:53:42 --> 00:53:46

and sin no more like what Jesus was doing was, he was in a very

00:53:46 --> 00:53:51

sinful culture, trying to help people choose to get away from it,

00:53:51 --> 00:53:54

because you couldn't force it on people. You can't just force real

00:53:54 --> 00:53:57

on people, they have to want it, you know. And so to teach people

00:53:57 --> 00:54:02

how to like not sin, so that they can start building a culture where

00:54:02 --> 00:54:06

that's seen as crazy and you can actually punish it was what he was

00:54:06 --> 00:54:10

doing. He wasn't saying, Oh, we all are full of sin. So let's just

00:54:10 --> 00:54:14

all sin. Like, that's literally Satanism. Yeah. So that's my

00:54:14 --> 00:54:18

thoughts on that. So let me ask you this. You talked about what

00:54:18 --> 00:54:23

impresses you is a visible a visible, individual or family

00:54:23 --> 00:54:30

based behavior, right, that, that this is what works and that

00:54:30 --> 00:54:36

you're, you're demonstrating this. But it has to be that there's a

00:54:36 --> 00:54:41

driving force behind that, which takes the leap from the anecdotal

00:54:41 --> 00:54:46

what my eyes are seeing. This is good to the rational or

00:54:46 --> 00:54:49

intellectual, which is the theological aspects of things,

00:54:49 --> 00:54:54

right? So that's where that's where the LEAP is, and that's

00:54:54 --> 00:54:59

where you got to have a driving force behind this and the driving

00:54:59 --> 00:54:59

force

00:55:00 --> 00:55:03

Let's say, let's say in a Muslim culture of practicing Muslim

00:55:03 --> 00:55:05

cultures, a lot of Muslims, they don't they don't practice their

00:55:05 --> 00:55:09

religion, right. But in a practicing Muslim culture, when we

00:55:09 --> 00:55:14

sit together and say something is forbidden, right? It is absolutely

00:55:14 --> 00:55:19

irrelevant. Whether or not you know how bad the result is,

00:55:19 --> 00:55:22

because the verses right in front of your eyes, and the word has one

00:55:22 --> 00:55:27

possible meaning, right? It's explicit, which is an and what's

00:55:27 --> 00:55:30

the, what's the root of that? The root of that is that you believe

00:55:30 --> 00:55:35

that this book has come down from God as a revelation to the

00:55:35 --> 00:55:39

Prophet. So it has to the anecdotal is linked to the

00:55:39 --> 00:55:44

theological, right? Yeah. If the theology isn't there, the actual

00:55:44 --> 00:55:48

faith and belief, this is God's word discussion over there's

00:55:48 --> 00:55:52

paradise here and heaven here, right. And then you got to water

00:55:52 --> 00:55:55

that plant of belief. Now that plants a belief, you got a brain,

00:55:55 --> 00:56:00

you got a View and make sure that it settles with the mind. That

00:56:00 --> 00:56:02

yes, the Prophet did speak, the truth is not just a transmitted

00:56:02 --> 00:56:07

myth, right, which goes to the like studying the chain of

00:56:07 --> 00:56:10

transmission, what we call the chain of transmission to ensure

00:56:10 --> 00:56:14

this is actually what the Prophet said, No one messed with it, no

00:56:14 --> 00:56:17

one altered it. And this is why I believe in God and His Prophet. So

00:56:17 --> 00:56:22

that's the theology that we find to be the most important root of

00:56:22 --> 00:56:26

all this. Is that investigation, that theological investigation,

00:56:27 --> 00:56:31

right now, here's my question, the conservatives, who tend to have a

00:56:32 --> 00:56:34

sympathetic view towards Muslims, or a friendly view towards

00:56:34 --> 00:56:38

Muslims, right? They seem to really be impressed with the

00:56:38 --> 00:56:43

result, but very unwilling to study the theology, or they

00:56:43 --> 00:56:47

haven't made that connection yet, like Muslims do not get a result

00:56:47 --> 00:56:51

because they're smart. Because they plan this. I remember, what's

00:56:51 --> 00:56:54

his name? PVA. What's the guy's name?

00:56:55 --> 00:56:59

Patrick bet, David. Yeah, him. He said, Muslims are really smart.

00:56:59 --> 00:57:03

They do this, this and this. And I'm like, No, Muslims do not do

00:57:03 --> 00:57:06

any of these things. There was no room board room where we made this

00:57:06 --> 00:57:10

plan. No planning is happening. It's just individual Muslims, they

00:57:10 --> 00:57:13

get the verse, they believe in it, they see the verse, they practice

00:57:13 --> 00:57:16

it, multiply that by a million, then you get the results. That's a

00:57:16 --> 00:57:21

really good point. Yeah. So that's the question is, like the

00:57:21 --> 00:57:25

conservatives, they liked the result. But there's not yet that

00:57:25 --> 00:57:29

introspection of the source of the result. It's kind of raised to

00:57:29 --> 00:57:32

it's like I was raised, like, my father was a professor. And I was

00:57:32 --> 00:57:32

raised

00:57:33 --> 00:57:39

in a very reason based, pragmatic, utilitarian way. And I do have

00:57:39 --> 00:57:41

that way of thinking, and you're absolutely right, I was talking to

00:57:41 --> 00:57:42

a friend about that.

00:57:43 --> 00:57:46

It's probably a weakness of mine, where I think, well, what are the

00:57:46 --> 00:57:50

results? And if you're motivated by the results, you're probably

00:57:50 --> 00:57:54

not even going to get the results. That's the irony of that. That

00:57:54 --> 00:57:57

you're right. Like underneath the the tip of the iceberg is the

00:57:57 --> 00:58:02

belief, the faith, the theology, and so yeah, I can, I can admire

00:58:02 --> 00:58:06

it. And I can see that and not necessarily feel it on the level

00:58:06 --> 00:58:06

that

00:58:07 --> 00:58:11

is creating such fruit, I have faith in God, I see, you know, I

00:58:11 --> 00:58:15

have a deep faith in God and I, and I have an admiration for

00:58:16 --> 00:58:20

religion that that quote unquote, works. But the reason it works is

00:58:20 --> 00:58:24

because of faith, I totally see the point you just made, but it is

00:58:24 --> 00:58:28

how my mind works. And that's why I think it's cool to, to raise

00:58:28 --> 00:58:32

children with with faith. And I think that one of the aspects of

00:58:32 --> 00:58:37

Christianity that I think is an unspoken weakness is the

00:58:37 --> 00:58:42

acceptance of translations and King James and like, I've made fun

00:58:42 --> 00:58:44

of King James to tell I mean, the guy looked like a fruitcake, you

00:58:44 --> 00:58:48

know? And so it's like, and so it's like, if you have a more

00:58:48 --> 00:58:53

valid, you know, I was a historian in college, I really take history

00:58:53 --> 00:58:55

seriously, like primary source documents, secondary source

00:58:55 --> 00:58:59

documents. When you have a, as you say, transmission, it's almost

00:58:59 --> 00:59:04

like in, in law, the chain of custody, like, who had their hands

00:59:04 --> 00:59:08

on it. Did anyone put some poison in the soup? You know? Yeah. And

00:59:08 --> 00:59:11

so if you can get a good chain of custody that looks the most

00:59:11 --> 00:59:16

logical, it allows people to have more faith in it. Yeah, I don't

00:59:16 --> 00:59:21

have a ton of faith in documents because I wasn't raised with it.

00:59:21 --> 00:59:25

And it's like habits and culture that I do think

00:59:26 --> 00:59:29

is an issue and a lot of American culture, a lot of Western culture

00:59:29 --> 00:59:34

because, you know, there is a hubris and a self righteousness to

00:59:34 --> 00:59:38

say, well prove it to me, you know, and I realized that like,

00:59:38 --> 00:59:42

I'm not God, I didn't create myself so so for me to say like,

00:59:42 --> 00:59:47

Oh, I get to like, you know, prove it to me. But that's how it's it's

00:59:47 --> 00:59:51

just weird culturally. It's how I was raised that wasn't raised with

00:59:51 --> 00:59:54

you know, being raised Catholic you don't have you don't even have

00:59:54 --> 00:59:57

faith in the Bible at all. You're supposed to listen to a guy in a

00:59:57 --> 01:00:00

robe. You know that but no kids who do

01:00:00 --> 01:00:02

definitely just pick that job because he sucks at life like

01:00:02 --> 01:00:06

that's, and you're like, and you got to eat a cracker with its

01:00:06 --> 01:00:09

flight, like all the practice and me and my brother used to just

01:00:09 --> 01:00:13

laugh like we never got super into it because it was like, this

01:00:13 --> 01:00:17

cracker is Jesus body. We're like, Nadia, we just saw you open the

01:00:17 --> 01:00:22

box of crackers. Like I know for a fact that isn't someone's body.

01:00:22 --> 01:00:27

Yeah. And so that's created this like lack of

01:00:28 --> 01:00:30

faith. And you know, like, what you were just saying, like the

01:00:30 --> 01:00:33

results, I'm in nature all the time, like, I'm always home, I

01:00:33 --> 01:00:37

like I farm, I've no doubt, like I really tried to live away, that's

01:00:37 --> 01:00:42

the most nature based way. Yeah. And it's almost like the vibration

01:00:42 --> 01:00:45

of a bee just makes a hive without intention. And they're like, the

01:00:45 --> 01:00:49

most perfect shapes. You know, you look at ants, you look at all

01:00:49 --> 01:00:54

these things and and it's just the their overall vibration, you can

01:00:54 --> 01:00:58

almost call it faith creates these giant structures around them. And

01:00:58 --> 01:01:02

you have like the inverted faith, like the faith in the material,

01:01:02 --> 01:01:06

the faith in yourself, as God will create these like, horrifying,

01:01:06 --> 01:01:11

postmodern apocalyptic structures. And so yeah, I see that because I

01:01:11 --> 01:01:14

used to think that way about a certain small hand group that we

01:01:14 --> 01:01:16

don't need to talk about, right thought that they all had this,

01:01:16 --> 01:01:20

like, meeting and cabal and all this. And the more I look at it,

01:01:20 --> 01:01:25

the more I don't think so I think it's like, their way of looking at

01:01:25 --> 01:01:29

the world culturally, is just creating these structures. Yeah,

01:01:29 --> 01:01:34

yeah. And it's the same with a lot of Muslims. Like, it's like, the

01:01:34 --> 01:01:38

way that the way their faith is oriented the way their internal

01:01:38 --> 01:01:42

world is oriented. It's just starts creating this. And it's an

01:01:42 --> 01:01:45

it creates vast wealth, like, but the good wealth, you know, the

01:01:45 --> 01:01:51

good, like, non usury based wealth isn't bad, you know, like wealth

01:01:52 --> 01:01:56

is only bad if it's replacing the wealth of like, family, you know,

01:01:56 --> 01:02:01

but you can theoretically be incredibly rich and blessed. You

01:02:01 --> 01:02:04

know, it's just, it just can't be that parasitic upside down

01:02:04 --> 01:02:07

material. While there has to be like, in service to community, you

01:02:07 --> 01:02:10

know what I mean? And yeah, and that's that, that real and good

01:02:10 --> 01:02:16

wealth, it tends to grow slowly. Yeah. Right. without sacrificing

01:02:16 --> 01:02:18

anything, and not leaving a

01:02:19 --> 01:02:24

body bags, like emotionally behind you like you divorce your wife,

01:02:24 --> 01:02:28

your daughter hates you, all that type of stuff. So I love that

01:02:28 --> 01:02:31

analogy that these ants are producing these things, and they

01:02:31 --> 01:02:34

don't know they're producing it. That one B is just doing its job.

01:02:34 --> 01:02:38

They didn't there was no master plan to sit down and make this

01:02:38 --> 01:02:42

unbelievable Honeycomb, that you see, every bee is just doing its

01:02:42 --> 01:02:46

job. So when you look at the Prophet peace be upon him, did not

01:02:46 --> 01:02:49

make there is not you cannot find certain statements on the prophet

01:02:49 --> 01:02:54

of what is Islam's plan? What is the political plan? Right? Yeah,

01:02:54 --> 01:02:58

what the Prophet did is he just rectified every he gave you

01:02:58 --> 01:03:03

individual rectification advice. And he lived it. And his

01:03:03 --> 01:03:07

companions watched him live it, they lived it, they transmitted it

01:03:07 --> 01:03:10

to their kids, and Islam spreads as a religion of the simple

01:03:10 --> 01:03:14

individual, then the family unit has its rules, then you and your

01:03:14 --> 01:03:18

neighbor have its rules, right? And so on and so forth. So

01:03:18 --> 01:03:21

wherever you throw these people out, wherever these people are

01:03:21 --> 01:03:25

sprinkled, and do what they're supposed to do, some form is going

01:03:25 --> 01:03:30

to take place that's admirable. That's Yes, I think this is a more

01:03:30 --> 01:03:34

controversial claim. I've said this before, and people spiral a

01:03:34 --> 01:03:37

little bit. But I think Thomas Jefferson was greatly influenced

01:03:37 --> 01:03:38

by Islam. And

01:03:39 --> 01:03:43

I think it also because Islam matches very well with agrarian

01:03:43 --> 01:03:46

lifestyle, so does actual Christianity. And I don't want to

01:03:46 --> 01:03:50

sound like like the whole No True Scotsman guide is judging people

01:03:50 --> 01:03:54

but like, you know, that's why Jefferson rewrote the Bible and

01:03:54 --> 01:03:55

took out

01:03:56 --> 01:03:57

took out Paul,

01:03:59 --> 01:04:04

you know, because, and, in Thomas Jefferson's Temple Room in

01:04:04 --> 01:04:08

Monticello is the Qur'an, you know, so it's pretty undeniable. I

01:04:08 --> 01:04:12

mean, he had issues with with some Muslims in the Philippines in

01:04:12 --> 01:04:15

blah, blah, blah. But overall, he established like a lot of the

01:04:15 --> 01:04:19

United States, the Declaration of Independence, is about the

01:04:19 --> 01:04:22

difference between public and private and all this stuff. It

01:04:22 --> 01:04:27

seems heavily influenced by, by, you know, the governmental

01:04:27 --> 01:04:30

structure because one thing that Mohammed did, that Jesus did not

01:04:30 --> 01:04:35

do is set up a government like, like a structure that you can

01:04:35 --> 01:04:39

actually function in. And so, when the founding fathers were setting

01:04:39 --> 01:04:44

up America, I think that it's pretty obvious that there was a

01:04:44 --> 01:04:48

heavy influence because the Qur'an was a major book in the 18th

01:04:48 --> 01:04:51

century in England. Because if you're trying to shape a

01:04:51 --> 01:04:54

government of wealth and prosperity, it's like even if

01:04:54 --> 01:04:57

you're doing it in a utilitarian way, I don't know if you had faith

01:04:57 --> 01:05:00

in Islam necessarily but you have

01:05:00 --> 01:05:04

After look at that, like, you have to look at how the Medina was

01:05:04 --> 01:05:08

reshaped and how that, you know, the Islamic empire. It's not

01:05:08 --> 01:05:10

really taught in Rockefeller public schools in America, but it

01:05:10 --> 01:05:16

was so wealthy and so vast, that if you don't analyze, like how

01:05:16 --> 01:05:20

that functions and how the courts function and how, you know, like

01:05:20 --> 01:05:23

the rules of private versus public, which I think are great,

01:05:23 --> 01:05:27

that's one of the thing that drew me to Sharia law as a structure is

01:05:29 --> 01:05:32

public versus private, like you have a right to bring your kids

01:05:32 --> 01:05:35

out in public and not see *, like what you do in

01:05:35 --> 01:05:39

your home is between you and God. But you can't bring this in public

01:05:39 --> 01:05:44

because, as a citizen, I have a right to raise my children in

01:05:44 --> 01:05:49

innocence. And so that's something I find awesome about Islam. And so

01:05:49 --> 01:05:53

it's like, if you want to, you know, be disgusting in your home,

01:05:53 --> 01:05:56

like, we're not going to kick in your doors or anything, but like,

01:05:56 --> 01:06:00

you can't bring it out. You can't keep it there. Right. But keep

01:06:00 --> 01:06:02

it's all about you're not allowed to teach it. Like if you want to

01:06:02 --> 01:06:06

have Santa Claus come down your chimney and kiss in the mistletoe

01:06:06 --> 01:06:10

and all these like strange practices, that's fine, but you

01:06:10 --> 01:06:14

can't do it in public. And so America actually has that in a lot

01:06:14 --> 01:06:19

of ways. Or at least it started that way. And it's just slowly

01:06:19 --> 01:06:23

kind of eroded. But the whole thing is public. And decency is in

01:06:23 --> 01:06:26

our law codes. And it's just, that's why media is so important.

01:06:27 --> 01:06:33

And why the the quote unquote ruling elite are so obsessed with

01:06:33 --> 01:06:37

harnessing media and consciousness because a law is only a law if you

01:06:37 --> 01:06:40

believe in it, like what you were just talking about with faith. And

01:06:40 --> 01:06:44

so if you look at it, like * was considered a mental illness in

01:06:44 --> 01:06:48

America when I was a kid, it's like so recent, that there's no

01:06:48 --> 01:06:51

doubt nosedive is happening I think a lot of it has to do with

01:06:51 --> 01:06:55

the mind blowing ability to shape consciousness on the internet and

01:06:55 --> 01:06:59

why I was so bad without I've never done a call to violence.

01:06:59 --> 01:07:02

I've never been arrested. I've never, you know, have a great

01:07:02 --> 01:07:06

marriage. I'm like, liked in my community. And so what was and

01:07:06 --> 01:07:09

then they'll they'll put like, complete murderous criminals on

01:07:09 --> 01:07:13

you know, Applebee's commercials. I'm like, so what is it and it's

01:07:13 --> 01:07:17

because they're threatened by the conscious awareness. And, you

01:07:17 --> 01:07:20

know, because I think we're born. Another thing that separates me

01:07:20 --> 01:07:23

from mainstream Christianity is an unbelieving original sense. So

01:07:23 --> 01:07:27

it's like, and neither did my mom. Like when I was baptized, she

01:07:27 --> 01:07:30

called it entrance into Christian community, because she said, a

01:07:30 --> 01:07:34

baby is born without sin. And that's an Islamic practice. And so

01:07:35 --> 01:07:39

I think that we have a draw to go back to God like to go back to the

01:07:39 --> 01:07:43

truth. And if that's what the matrix is this false reality that

01:07:43 --> 01:07:47

they put us in, where we're like, Oh, it's good to be evil, like,

01:07:47 --> 01:07:50

it's good to do these terrible things. But then when you're when

01:07:50 --> 01:07:53

you're presented with another alternative, you like, feel that

01:07:53 --> 01:07:57

you want to go back to it, you know, yeah. And so that's why I,

01:07:57 --> 01:08:02

yeah, that's my thoughts on that. I want to make a comment and hear

01:08:02 --> 01:08:05

your reaction to it. But and then I want to ask you a question. So

01:08:05 --> 01:08:08

two more things. I don't want to hold you up too much to too much.

01:08:08 --> 01:08:11

I know, it's just the morning getting started there. But the

01:08:11 --> 01:08:15

first comment is that when we talked about how the Islamic

01:08:15 --> 01:08:21

empire produced a great amount of wealth, and had all these results,

01:08:21 --> 01:08:24

and if you're founding a country, it would behoove you to examine

01:08:24 --> 01:08:29

how previous nations kept it for so long. Yeah. One of the

01:08:30 --> 01:08:33

important things is that the Prophet peace be upon him when a

01:08:33 --> 01:08:38

when the prophet comes down, and teaches us it's so important not

01:08:38 --> 01:08:42

just to have the lesson, but to see all the bad reactions. And how

01:08:42 --> 01:08:46

does the Prophet handle this, right? So that when you go down

01:08:46 --> 01:08:49

the path of wealth, let's say, or nation building, you must

01:08:49 --> 01:08:53

eventually be prepared to go into the field of battle. There's going

01:08:53 --> 01:08:58

to be a conflict. I'm a righteous Muslim, and my employee is sort of

01:08:58 --> 01:09:01

ripping me off. He's not working hard enough. Is it merciful to

01:09:01 --> 01:09:07

fire him? Right? Do I should I feel guilty? So in religious

01:09:07 --> 01:09:11

examples, this is why the we believe that the Prophet Jesus,

01:09:11 --> 01:09:16

His message came to complete Moses his message, because Moses led

01:09:16 --> 01:09:20

people write Moses own things he had married, he had a marriage, he

01:09:20 --> 01:09:24

had children, Prophet Jesus, we say that in his first coming did

01:09:24 --> 01:09:29

not have those things. So that cannot be the example. If I'm an

01:09:29 --> 01:09:32

entrepreneur, I want to be a righteous, God fearing

01:09:32 --> 01:09:38

multimillionaire. Right? How do I do it? Jesus did not do that. His

01:09:38 --> 01:09:42

disciples didn't do that. All right. So I gotta we'd need a

01:09:42 --> 01:09:46

bigger example. So that originally Jesus was supposed to be in the

01:09:46 --> 01:09:50

context of all the Hebrew prophets. So I spoke with David

01:09:50 --> 01:09:55

was a was was, was a King Solomon was the richest man on earth and

01:09:55 --> 01:09:58

was the most beloved to God simultaneously. So that's what the

01:09:58 --> 01:09:59

so the common is that

01:10:00 --> 01:10:04

With the when you have an example, you can't just have a good example

01:10:04 --> 01:10:07

you need to see the conflict. How does that Prophet engage in

01:10:07 --> 01:10:12

conflict? So righteous conflict is something that exists. And that's

01:10:12 --> 01:10:15

where, what you said, Man, you have a priest who doesn't marry?

01:10:16 --> 01:10:18

Well, how do you know how to handle a conflict? Then? How do

01:10:18 --> 01:10:21

you know how to raise a kid? Then? How are you an example. And that's

01:10:21 --> 01:10:25

harkening back to the first thing I said earlier is that when the

01:10:25 --> 01:10:29

Christianity ran the country, right, but it didn't give an

01:10:29 --> 01:10:33

example to JD Rockefeller, what is that he was really religious,

01:10:33 --> 01:10:40

right. But JD Rockefeller was he was a hardcore, religious guy. But

01:10:40 --> 01:10:42

where was his example of a billionaire?

01:10:43 --> 01:10:46

Like, how does he relate to Jesus? How does he relate to the priests

01:10:46 --> 01:10:51

or the whatever? Leaders? And that's the point where it what is

01:10:51 --> 01:10:57

what Islam also gives us is an example of all the unspiritual

01:10:57 --> 01:11:01

things that happen in life, and how to navigate them righteously.

01:11:02 --> 01:11:06

So, you know, if you have anything to add to that, no, it's really

01:11:06 --> 01:11:09

good point, I mean, how to navigate like how to put it into

01:11:09 --> 01:11:10

practice, because

01:11:12 --> 01:11:15

that's what a lot of us are now facing, because now it appears

01:11:15 --> 01:11:18

like there's this collapse situation happening. And

01:11:19 --> 01:11:21

I don't know, if you've looked too into, like what we do with bear

01:11:21 --> 01:11:25

Taria, where it's like, we're trying to set up a decentralized

01:11:27 --> 01:11:30

trading ability and be able to do business with each other and keep

01:11:30 --> 01:11:34

it within our community and have families and all this stuff. Like

01:11:34 --> 01:11:38

we have our own social media, as I said earlier, and our own magazine

01:11:38 --> 01:11:41

to promote our culture and all this stuff, because I'm not

01:11:41 --> 01:11:43

looking to overthrow any government or overthrow anything

01:11:43 --> 01:11:48

or fight anybody, like, honestly. But I am seeing that the future

01:11:48 --> 01:11:54

may be a rebuild. And so I love seeing examples of how someone

01:11:54 --> 01:11:58

does it. Because you're right, there is a whole thing like people

01:11:58 --> 01:12:00

say, Jesus king of kings, but it's like,

01:12:02 --> 01:12:04

where in the New Testament is there an example of how to

01:12:04 --> 01:12:09

actually be a king of a country because it's really difficult. And

01:12:09 --> 01:12:13

even just running a small online community that we have meetups,

01:12:13 --> 01:12:18

and we're decentralized, as I said, like the conflicts, and the

01:12:18 --> 01:12:23

the way it has to be handled is so difficult that I think sometimes,

01:12:23 --> 01:12:27

people like to slip into a quote, unquote, spirituality to avoid

01:12:28 --> 01:12:33

the secular realities of like, trade routes, and all this stuff.

01:12:33 --> 01:12:36

And as much as people can, like, mock the Jews or get mad at the

01:12:36 --> 01:12:41

Jews, like, at least a lot of them are managing the banking sector,

01:12:41 --> 01:12:45

which is hard, you know, and I'm trying to like, you know, my, my

01:12:45 --> 01:12:48

hate my farmstand except silver, like, that's my little,

01:12:49 --> 01:12:49

my little

01:12:51 --> 01:12:55

what's it called, just the smallest thing I can possibly do

01:12:55 --> 01:12:57

to try and get around fiat currency. But

01:12:58 --> 01:13:04

it's very, very difficult. So, you know, to see somebody start a

01:13:04 --> 01:13:10

functioning country is powerful. And, and I think that's to be

01:13:10 --> 01:13:13

looked at, and I don't think it's to be feared at all, you know,

01:13:13 --> 01:13:17

because some people, it's almost like they view studying Islam as

01:13:17 --> 01:13:20

cheating on their wife or something where it's this, I see

01:13:20 --> 01:13:24

that in, in some Christians where as soon as I bring up a hadith or

01:13:24 --> 01:13:26

a teaching or something,

01:13:27 --> 01:13:30

they freak out like it but yet I can bring up Harry Potter no

01:13:30 --> 01:13:34

problem, you know, and it's like, Harry Potter. You know, I'm saying

01:13:34 --> 01:13:38

where it's like, so are you really this purists that can only hear

01:13:39 --> 01:13:43

the Bible but yet we can all watch succession on HBO together, like,

01:13:44 --> 01:13:47

what is this like? So you can't look at like Islam is so similar

01:13:47 --> 01:13:51

to the teachings of Christianity, but you can't look at any of the

01:13:51 --> 01:13:53

wealth. Like there's this hadith that my friend was telling me

01:13:53 --> 01:13:56

about. And I don't even know if it's a hit beads, but it's a

01:13:56 --> 01:14:00

lesson that is taught about the fall. No, it's not a Deeth I don't

01:14:00 --> 01:14:05

know. But it's the fall of, of a rock, or it's the fall of the the

01:14:05 --> 01:14:10

empire of of Islam when these like horse archers are coming in. And

01:14:10 --> 01:14:13

they were just slaughtering like, one woman could slaughter like 50

01:14:13 --> 01:14:17

Guys in a house and are screaming like, you have a gold plate, you

01:14:17 --> 01:14:22

have a gold plate, why can you get more warriors and so to be taught,

01:14:22 --> 01:14:26

the softness that comes from wealth, and to hammer that into

01:14:26 --> 01:14:28

your children because right now, as you can see, like

01:14:30 --> 01:14:32

the Saudi royal family, and a lot of the Middle East is becoming

01:14:32 --> 01:14:35

super rich. And I think what they're facing is saw, you know,

01:14:35 --> 01:14:40

that, that softness that can come from that. And so that lesson is

01:14:40 --> 01:14:43

crucial in that lesson is crucial for Americans and Christian

01:14:43 --> 01:14:46

Americans. People that run businesses like what happens when

01:14:46 --> 01:14:49

you get so rich? You forget to lock the door. Yeah, you know,

01:14:50 --> 01:14:53

well, there's, there's this dude's eating rats on horses that can

01:14:53 --> 01:14:58

slaughter your whole family. If you don't say, Okay, it's it's

01:14:58 --> 01:14:59

amazing. You should read

01:15:00 --> 01:15:05

A little bit of the history of the endless and endless in the stomach

01:15:05 --> 01:15:10

West's face this two times, they became extremely wealthy and

01:15:10 --> 01:15:15

extremely fine art into the fine arts. And they just they became

01:15:15 --> 01:15:21

too, too elite to follow the strict codes of the Sharia. And

01:15:21 --> 01:15:24

they fell into this. So wine drinking, we turn a blind and not

01:15:24 --> 01:15:27

turn a blind eye. Things like that. They start turning a blind

01:15:27 --> 01:15:32

eye, they became corrupted mess. Yeah, the Christians came in and

01:15:32 --> 01:15:36

started defeating them. Yeah, exactly. Right. Now the Islamic

01:15:36 --> 01:15:41

scholars of the East discovered that there were these nomadic

01:15:41 --> 01:15:48

nomadic Bedouin, like people who started to learn Islam. Right.

01:15:49 --> 01:15:53

These guys were fighters. So the first group that called the

01:15:53 --> 01:15:59

Morava, it's Almoravids. In English, they came up, and they

01:15:59 --> 01:16:03

push back to Crusaders and went back home. So the famous Imam

01:16:03 --> 01:16:06

Ghazali wrote them a ruling, he said, If they give the Christians

01:16:06 --> 01:16:11

come back, you are obligated to go and conquer and to loose and rule

01:16:11 --> 01:16:13

it. Now, here's the thing.

01:16:14 --> 01:16:19

All they had was your basic Islamic law book. Right? They were

01:16:19 --> 01:16:24

not super scholars. But they had studied for one generation Islamic

01:16:24 --> 01:16:27

law that taught them how do you run a court who can be a judge?

01:16:28 --> 01:16:32

That is you run a military, right? Who's responsible if something

01:16:32 --> 01:16:36

goes wrong in the country, you had people who were one generation

01:16:36 --> 01:16:41

earlier, absolute Bedouins. But because they learned the law book,

01:16:41 --> 01:16:46

right? In a very basic capacity, they were able to run a country

01:16:46 --> 01:16:50

and run not only country, a civilization, right? And a loose

01:16:50 --> 01:16:53

is something here. They were coming from the borders of

01:16:53 --> 01:16:57

Mauritania, Mali, and Senegal, down here. But because they had

01:16:57 --> 01:17:00

the law book, they were able to manage it. And this happened

01:17:00 --> 01:17:04

twice. Then they ruled and and to loose the wealth of Andalus, over

01:17:04 --> 01:17:09

100 years got to their heads, they became corrupt. Another group came

01:17:09 --> 01:17:13

in and did the same thing mopped up. They mop them up. And we end

01:17:13 --> 01:17:16

because they had the law book. I'm telling you, I think I'm sitting

01:17:16 --> 01:17:21

here with the room of about seven guys, right? I think we could

01:17:21 --> 01:17:25

actually, because we study right? If you gave us Rhode Island right?

01:17:25 --> 01:17:26

Now we could run it.

01:17:29 --> 01:17:32

Yeah, that's merciful. That's the thing. It's almost like, it's the

01:17:32 --> 01:17:37

David and Goliath story where it's like, you, you beat the giant with

01:17:37 --> 01:17:41

the blessing, which is following the law. So it's like, it's so

01:17:41 --> 01:17:44

fascinating to see. And the same, a similar thing happened to Rome,

01:17:45 --> 01:17:50

where they got so corrupted, and so secular that the Germanic

01:17:50 --> 01:17:54

tribes took them. And it was like, merciful. There's like, it's not

01:17:54 --> 01:17:57

even like, quote, unquote, conquering it's almost like,

01:17:58 --> 01:18:01

I don't know, I like that, because we're gonna see more and more of

01:18:01 --> 01:18:02

that, where you're seeing, like,

01:18:03 --> 01:18:07

people that desperately need structure, you know, and they're

01:18:07 --> 01:18:11

there. They're just like falling at their own addictions. And so

01:18:11 --> 01:18:14

that's why money doesn't win wars, like I was, I was saying this

01:18:14 --> 01:18:17

years ago, and people said, I was crazy. I'm like, dude, Afghanistan

01:18:17 --> 01:18:21

is the new Switzerland. If you look at it, it's like, okay,

01:18:21 --> 01:18:26

Switzerland used to be warriors, and mountainous and poor and

01:18:26 --> 01:18:30

hardcore Christians, and they could beat anybody. And now you

01:18:30 --> 01:18:35

have Afghanistan beat, you know, the great Goliath of America with

01:18:35 --> 01:18:41

like, you know, rifles and stuff, and just by not consenting. And if

01:18:41 --> 01:18:44

you look at where it's situated, like as the world's well shifts,

01:18:44 --> 01:18:47

you have the mountainous region, right, in an area where you have

01:18:47 --> 01:18:51

the Indian population, China's manufacturing, Russia has

01:18:51 --> 01:18:55

resources and you're like, that's, that's the new Switzerland. And

01:18:55 --> 01:18:59

so, as the West falls into indulgence, and it's so

01:18:59 --> 01:19:03

interesting, because that the money and the positions and the

01:19:03 --> 01:19:07

aircraft carriers, they really don't matter. It's like, if you if

01:19:07 --> 01:19:11

they're just being driven by a bunch of transsexuals on math,

01:19:11 --> 01:19:14

it's like, they can't shoot straight, you know?

01:19:15 --> 01:19:20

That's the whole day, you're not gonna last if no, no, if it draws

01:19:20 --> 01:19:23

out, you're gonna be so depressed, you just gotta want to put your

01:19:23 --> 01:19:28

hands up, right? And I walked down, we go to Manhattan, we go to

01:19:28 --> 01:19:34

places. And I just say to myself, these people need conquering. We

01:19:34 --> 01:19:38

can teach you how to live, right? You might not you may be kicking

01:19:38 --> 01:19:42

and screaming, but give it six months you'll be thanking us,

01:19:42 --> 01:19:46

right? Like if we had conquering benevolent God, we reframe real

01:19:46 --> 01:19:49

quick because, like I talked about how slavery isn't evil, so I

01:19:49 --> 01:19:54

reframed it to build your buddies because like, Hollywood's made the

01:19:54 --> 01:19:59

word slavery sounds so insane, like conquering. Sounds like

01:19:59 --> 01:19:59

death. So

01:20:00 --> 01:20:03

As someone who is conquering they think, Oh, you're gonna get your

01:20:03 --> 01:20:06

crooked sword and you know, kill them eaten it now Now imagine a

01:20:06 --> 01:20:11

world where it's restructured. Or like, it's everyone has been dying

01:20:11 --> 01:20:15

of fentanyl. You know, it's like, it's like, that's what's killing

01:20:15 --> 01:20:17

people. It's killing people's their own indulgence. Like imagine

01:20:18 --> 01:20:22

if there was like a, you know, like a business sector that wasn't

01:20:22 --> 01:20:27

just this like, malevolent, you know, gross beast that makes

01:20:27 --> 01:20:31

everyone poor. That's why the Islamic empire got so rich and

01:20:31 --> 01:20:34

various empires and Christendom have gotten so rich is when you

01:20:34 --> 01:20:39

follow, you know, God's law for money, gold, silver, and then how

01:20:39 --> 01:20:43

you, you implement business, you get rich, slow, but when you get

01:20:43 --> 01:20:47

rich, you get super rich, and this upside down Fiat world, you get

01:20:47 --> 01:20:51

rich real fast, but then when you get poor, you get real poor and

01:20:51 --> 01:20:54

live fast. And you're gonna want people that know how to run a

01:20:54 --> 01:20:58

court and the American court system is pretty good. It's just,

01:20:58 --> 01:21:02

it's just been corrupted. It's just been, like, handled, you

01:21:02 --> 01:21:05

know, it's just been handled by people that, that, you know, they,

01:21:05 --> 01:21:09

they're just too indulged. It's like, so what it really means is

01:21:09 --> 01:21:12

we can be drunk all day. And, and you know, like, now, dude, you're

01:21:12 --> 01:21:17

losing your edge. And so I think with the word conquer, it's not

01:21:17 --> 01:21:22

about like, like force as much as it is just a restructuring,

01:21:22 --> 01:21:26

because because, you know, I think a lot of the West has become hyper

01:21:26 --> 01:21:29

emotional. So like these, because I trigger people all the time. So

01:21:29 --> 01:21:32

I have to always think about, like, what a word means to people.

01:21:32 --> 01:21:36

Yeah. So like, a restructuring. Sounds great.

01:21:38 --> 01:21:42

What you said about slavery? Like, if you look at it from the Islamic

01:21:42 --> 01:21:47

context, what is the origin of slavery? The actual origin of

01:21:47 --> 01:21:52

slavery? Is a nation coming to try to kill you? They're armies trying

01:21:52 --> 01:21:56

to kill you. Right? So you took them captives.

01:21:57 --> 01:22:01

You had the moral right to kill them. But there is now another

01:22:01 --> 01:22:06

option. I take you prisoner, I can kill you as a prisoner, right then

01:22:06 --> 01:22:10

and there on the spot. And nobody has any moral qualms with that,

01:22:10 --> 01:22:14

because you were just trying to kill me. Yeah. Or, I could

01:22:14 --> 01:22:17

actually benefit from you because you have skills. So when it's what

01:22:17 --> 01:22:19

Islam comes, does not come at promote.

01:22:20 --> 01:22:24

Slavery came to give it some kind of softness, because it's not

01:22:24 --> 01:22:29

going anywhere. And to give it some kind of rules, you cannot

01:22:29 --> 01:22:31

abuse you can't whip you can't do all these things. You can't starve

01:22:31 --> 01:22:34

him. You can't hit him, you, but you can benefit from him, because

01:22:34 --> 01:22:39

he was trying to kill you. You can sell him, right? So he came with

01:22:39 --> 01:22:42

those things. So it's not like so the word slavery also, like you

01:22:42 --> 01:22:45

said, people get triggered, we have to just give them the idea.

01:22:45 --> 01:22:49

That's what slavery was. That's the origin of it. And that's the

01:22:49 --> 01:22:53

morality behind it. You were trying to kill me. Right? So for

01:22:53 --> 01:22:58

me to benefit from your skills, and mercy to you. And it's also

01:22:58 --> 01:23:01

dead, it's like, and you can become a slave because you're so

01:23:01 --> 01:23:06

in dead. And then you can get out of slavery. It's like, I'm against

01:23:06 --> 01:23:09

racial based slavery, obviously, you know, like, is Hollywood's

01:23:09 --> 01:23:12

made it like, Oh, if you like, if you're okay, with slavery, that

01:23:12 --> 01:23:16

means your race, like you, you think Black should be slavery.

01:23:16 --> 01:23:20

Now. Now, like, people don't realize they're already slaves

01:23:20 --> 01:23:22

financially, like 13 years of slave.

01:23:23 --> 01:23:25

That joke, the joke I did about as I was, like, I thought that

01:23:25 --> 01:23:29

student loans, you know, it's like, it's like, they already have

01:23:29 --> 01:23:32

a mechanism of slavery that you can't get out of, and they put you

01:23:32 --> 01:23:35

in a little queue. And so if you look at the Islamic slave codes,

01:23:35 --> 01:23:39

and how like the slave is, gets to eat the same quality of food is

01:23:39 --> 01:23:42

the master and stuff like that. It's actually a better system than

01:23:42 --> 01:23:46

the current system. And you're right. It's like, when you're,

01:23:47 --> 01:23:51

when you're at war, you can either just execute everybody or, you

01:23:51 --> 01:23:54

know, keep them alive, allow them to possibly get out of slavery,

01:23:54 --> 01:23:57

have a family, can they follow your rules, if they can't follow

01:23:57 --> 01:24:00

your rules, and they might have to go, but, you know, it's like, can

01:24:00 --> 01:24:04

they be reshaped because a lot of the citizenry in war is fairly

01:24:04 --> 01:24:07

innocent. So if you're shooting at someone, they have a right to

01:24:07 --> 01:24:11

shoot back at you. If you're captured, they might just be, you

01:24:11 --> 01:24:15

know, a peasant. Like they're not Yeah, evil. You know, it's like,

01:24:15 --> 01:24:18

like, look at Americans like America has been a part of so many

01:24:18 --> 01:24:21

of these disasters, wars. And if you if you take the average

01:24:21 --> 01:24:25

American like, are they evil? No, it's like, would they are they

01:24:25 --> 01:24:29

like, yeah, we have to go get all the opium in Afghanistan. Now, a

01:24:29 --> 01:24:34

lot of Americans, myself included, thought that there really was this

01:24:34 --> 01:24:38

thing called terrorism and they were trying to kill us. And so as

01:24:38 --> 01:24:42

that spell falls apart, you're like, Oh, my God, it's because the

01:24:42 --> 01:24:45

Taliban would sell their opium like, That's seriously what that

01:24:45 --> 01:24:49

was about. And most Americans wouldn't sign on to that and

01:24:49 --> 01:24:53

that's why they do these spells because like, the best warriors in

01:24:53 --> 01:24:56

America would not go kill people for opium. I mean, that's, it's

01:24:56 --> 01:24:59

like crazy. That's how you get your real low grade. Done.

01:25:00 --> 01:25:04

Bad soldiers. Yeah, yeah. Let me close with this. And I thank you

01:25:04 --> 01:25:07

for your time. And it's been a nice discussion.

01:25:08 --> 01:25:11

I want to close with a question we talked about a lot of things that

01:25:11 --> 01:25:15

we find in common. And you were talked about a lot of things that

01:25:15 --> 01:25:19

you found interesting and admirable in Islam. Now, let me

01:25:19 --> 01:25:22

ask the opposite now, in the conservative world that you're in,

01:25:22 --> 01:25:25

in Idaho with the people that you're around,

01:25:26 --> 01:25:32

I want to sort of know, like, where what is their biggest thorn,

01:25:32 --> 01:25:36

in their view from Islam? Like, what is it about it that they

01:25:36 --> 01:25:40

don't find they find that they could never survive with this? I

01:25:40 --> 01:25:42

think it has to do with mass migration. I don't think it has to

01:25:42 --> 01:25:45

do with Islam at all. I think it has to do with what people

01:25:45 --> 01:25:49

perceive it's tied to where it's like they perceive that Islam

01:25:49 --> 01:25:53

means everybody around you is going to be from Senegal.

01:25:54 --> 01:25:58

And that you're not going to be able to culturally survive, you

01:25:58 --> 01:26:05

know, and so, that's one of the biggest mind thorns when it comes

01:26:05 --> 01:26:09

to Islam because most people have not, you know, because it's all

01:26:09 --> 01:26:13

about rhetoric. So it's like the Mexican invasion from the south

01:26:13 --> 01:26:16

are never called Christians. Yeah, they're always called Mexicans,

01:26:16 --> 01:26:20

you know, but yet when they come when, when you have like Middle

01:26:20 --> 01:26:25

Easterners are called Muslims. And so I always can spot that I can

01:26:25 --> 01:26:29

spot tricks. Yeah. Because I know several, like super white,

01:26:29 --> 01:26:33

Caucasian Muslims. Like it's not a race, you know. And so that's

01:26:33 --> 01:26:36

probably one of the biggest things is people feel threatened that

01:26:36 --> 01:26:40

they will be overpopulate you know, that they in the irony is I

01:26:40 --> 01:26:45

told people I'm like, if you followed Islam, you would actually

01:26:45 --> 01:26:48

get a bigger population, like That's the funniest irony ever,

01:26:49 --> 01:26:53

is, if a white family was Islamic, they would have way more white

01:26:53 --> 01:26:53

kids.

01:26:55 --> 01:26:59

The reason they're replacing you is because they have a bunch of

01:26:59 --> 01:27:03

kids, because they're not like raging gay guys.

01:27:04 --> 01:27:09

And marriage for us, mainly marriage happens. I can't maybe

01:27:09 --> 01:27:12

speak for everybody, but in the main marriage tends to happen

01:27:12 --> 01:27:15

locally. If you have a strong local population, I would say

01:27:15 --> 01:27:20

seven out of 10 women will marry a local guy, right? If you have a

01:27:20 --> 01:27:22

big Muslim population, like why would you marry someone from

01:27:22 --> 01:27:26

another state? Like, why would you matter? Like, what what would that

01:27:26 --> 01:27:29

how would that happen? It would only happen if your population is

01:27:29 --> 01:27:33

not that big. But once you hit a certain number, the vast majority

01:27:33 --> 01:27:38

of community members will marry from within a generous range of

01:27:38 --> 01:27:42

miles because that's who the family knows. We already know

01:27:42 --> 01:27:45

their family. why would why why would I bring a stranger in our in

01:27:45 --> 01:27:49

our house when we have these people right here? Right? So it's

01:27:49 --> 01:27:54

a very locally driven popular religion is you end up living a

01:27:54 --> 01:27:58

very strong local life. And that's where the power is. That's why you

01:27:58 --> 01:28:03

got her are gaining power, which is good. Because I'm just all

01:28:03 --> 01:28:08

about fair. Like I'm just, I don't I don't have a dog in a fight and

01:28:08 --> 01:28:11

lasses, just whatever that's why we like to say the good, the true

01:28:11 --> 01:28:15

the beautiful, it's like, whatever is whatever is fair and good and

01:28:15 --> 01:28:19

true. That's good. And that's why I was joking with somebody

01:28:19 --> 01:28:22

recently about race. I'm like that's why it's called a race

01:28:22 --> 01:28:23

compete

01:28:26 --> 01:28:32

that's why I love when a Muhammad Ali was like, I love Muhammad Ali

01:28:32 --> 01:28:36

when he was like blueberry like blue birds. Like I like my black

01:28:36 --> 01:28:40

woman. I don't want no Chinese woman. And this like in this like,

01:28:40 --> 01:28:44

kind of broken. cuckolded British guy was like our I find that to be

01:28:44 --> 01:28:49

full of despair. Because I don't want a woman like you. I want a

01:28:49 --> 01:28:53

woman that understands me. And I'm like, Yeah, that's That's it. Like

01:28:53 --> 01:28:58

why is like That's the funniest thing is I'm I am slightly racist,

01:28:58 --> 01:29:00

but I'm not a white supremacist. Like I don't think whites are

01:29:00 --> 01:29:03

better than people. I just liked that Japan exists. And yeah,

01:29:03 --> 01:29:08

Afghanistan exists and like that the French like, what they like, I

01:29:08 --> 01:29:11

like that. I like that people have their own thing. And then the

01:29:11 --> 01:29:15

world is more beautiful place and, and so that's, I think that that's

01:29:15 --> 01:29:20

the main thing against Islam in America is its association with

01:29:20 --> 01:29:25

feeling like you're being replaced. Yeah. And the irony is

01:29:25 --> 01:29:29

that if more people lived, like Muslims, they would have bigger

01:29:29 --> 01:29:32

families and they wouldn't be getting because the thing is, is

01:29:32 --> 01:29:36

America does like there is a lack of labor because people used to

01:29:36 --> 01:29:40

have five kids and now they have one kid and so who's gonna pick

01:29:40 --> 01:29:43

the berries, you know? And so then you have to bring in people that

01:29:43 --> 01:29:46

are willing to live simply and have a lot of kids and those

01:29:46 --> 01:29:50

people will inherit your wealth like that's, that's a fact. It's

01:29:50 --> 01:29:53

already happened. It's just like only a matter of time. And then

01:29:53 --> 01:29:57

once you get the wealth, your real struggle happens like can you keep

01:29:57 --> 01:30:00

the FE like, can you not become your own?

01:30:00 --> 01:30:03

Got in your head and up conquered by the next people that can do it.

01:30:03 --> 01:30:07

Yeah, it's them. It promotes this indigenous, it promotes a

01:30:07 --> 01:30:11

localized and indigenous culture wherever it goes. That's awesome.

01:30:11 --> 01:30:16

And it doesn't require you to break out of that, right? So

01:30:16 --> 01:30:19

that's why there are three guys out there three friends of mine,

01:30:20 --> 01:30:23

who you may come across, right? And if you ever interested to talk

01:30:23 --> 01:30:28

to them, we can arrange for one of them is in Oklahoma. And his his

01:30:28 --> 01:30:32

channel is called the revival of men. All right. He's an he's a

01:30:32 --> 01:30:35

Norwegian, and he broke away from his family. When they converted he

01:30:35 --> 01:30:39

they cut him off, but he's a Norwegian American. So the revival

01:30:39 --> 01:30:42

of men is the name of his channel now, right?

01:30:43 --> 01:30:46

Then there's another one who surprised a lot of people because

01:30:46 --> 01:30:49

he called his channel the Muslim cowboy. And he wears a cowboy hat,

01:30:49 --> 01:30:54

and he's got a big beard. And he just like, like a regular southern

01:30:54 --> 01:30:58

guy. He's from Texas. He's from a well off family in Texas. And when

01:30:58 --> 01:31:01

he goes back to his community, he's exactly so very similar what

01:31:01 --> 01:31:05

you said. They think that he's been foreign iced. Like he's

01:31:05 --> 01:31:10

adopted a foreign culture, where he has adopted some he's a

01:31:10 --> 01:31:13

religion and some of the culture but his the point of that he calls

01:31:13 --> 01:31:17

it the Muslim cowboy is to show everybody, I'm actually the

01:31:17 --> 01:31:21

continuation of the original Texan culture. I'm going to continue it

01:31:22 --> 01:31:26

to show just to prove the point that Islam isn't erasing these

01:31:26 --> 01:31:29

things. So we call this channel the Muslim cowboy. And it's

01:31:29 --> 01:31:32

interesting what he has, and he's always arguing heavily with the

01:31:32 --> 01:31:34

Protestant guys. But

01:31:36 --> 01:31:39

but that's the exact reason is he's trying to prove that he's

01:31:39 --> 01:31:43

that's not erasing that the other guy is robbed of four cameras.

01:31:43 --> 01:31:46

What is his organization's called, but he's the opposite. He's

01:31:46 --> 01:31:50

Canadian. He's way up north. And he's also bringing this thing

01:31:50 --> 01:31:54

where I'm a Muslim, but I'm not no longer here. I'm not erasing my

01:31:54 --> 01:31:59

Canadian Heritage here. Right. And he says, he we talked a lot about

01:31:59 --> 01:32:06

what of what if we had a nation that were like, we could have a

01:32:06 --> 01:32:09

conference or meeting, we can have a conference of Latino Muslims, no

01:32:09 --> 01:32:13

one have a problem, right? Let's all we're all Latino converts

01:32:13 --> 01:32:17

known, whatever problem. If we came, we say we have a black Imams

01:32:17 --> 01:32:22

forum, imams who are African American to discuss our issues. So

01:32:22 --> 01:32:26

he then asked me, he knows, he knows there's going to be a

01:32:26 --> 01:32:31

problem. He said, What if I said a white convert conference? Right? I

01:32:31 --> 01:32:33

said, What would be wrong with that? Right?

01:32:35 --> 01:32:37

What would be wrong with that? Because you have your own issues,

01:32:37 --> 01:32:41

right? That relates to your culture. The wrongness is the

01:32:41 --> 01:32:46

imagination of superiority, right? And he's like, excluding people

01:32:46 --> 01:32:49

making people feel left out. That's what the wrong is. Right?

01:32:50 --> 01:32:54

So it was an interesting conversation. Do you have anything

01:32:54 --> 01:32:56

else that you'd like to bring to the table? I can talk about this

01:32:56 --> 01:32:59

all day, because it's so it's so interesting to me, because it's

01:32:59 --> 01:32:59

like,

01:33:01 --> 01:33:03

I gotta go soon, though, obviously. But that point you just

01:33:03 --> 01:33:07

made like about how isn't one of the guarantees of Islam, like your

01:33:07 --> 01:33:10

culture, like your your family lineage? As long as you don't

01:33:10 --> 01:33:12

think you're better than other people? Yeah. Yes.

01:33:14 --> 01:33:18

The Prophet said he loves his tribe, or he loved his lineage.

01:33:18 --> 01:33:22

Yeah, exactly. Like, like, it's so it's so ironic, because so many

01:33:22 --> 01:33:27

Christian nationalists are like afraid to even talk that way, but

01:33:27 --> 01:33:30

they want it and blah, blah. I'm like, dude, Islam literally

01:33:30 --> 01:33:34

guarantees that like you have a right to your people. You just

01:33:34 --> 01:33:38

can't say that your blood means you can kill other blood, which

01:33:38 --> 01:33:43

I'm all about, like, I don't want that. So it's super interesting

01:33:43 --> 01:33:44

when people call it a foreign religion. I mean, so it's

01:33:44 --> 01:33:48

Christianity. Technically, the, you know, the American religion

01:33:48 --> 01:33:51

would be Mormonism, or Scientology or something like that. Like,

01:33:51 --> 01:33:55

those are actually made in America. It's for NASA.

01:33:58 --> 01:34:02

But anyway, bad. Thanks for having me. No, thank you. Great chat.

01:34:02 --> 01:34:05

Anytime you want to come on and talk about Islam, we can we can

01:34:05 --> 01:34:09

talk and if you want to ever meet some of these other guys that are

01:34:09 --> 01:34:14

in your neck of the woods, between you know, in the central area in

01:34:14 --> 01:34:19

the more open lands of America, I can connect you with those guys.

01:34:19 --> 01:34:23

So thanks for coming on. And, you know, look forward to maybe

01:34:23 --> 01:34:26

talking again in the future. Absolutely, man. Alright, peace.

01:34:26 --> 01:34:27

Thanks. Take care.

01:34:29 --> 01:34:31

All right, everyone. There you have it.

01:34:32 --> 01:34:36

How do you guys think it went? Good, brought up? Yeah, the guy

01:34:36 --> 01:34:40

is, he's got a lot of good things to say. That's why I said I'd

01:34:40 --> 01:34:42

listen. I don't want this just to be

01:34:44 --> 01:34:45

you know, totally just

01:34:47 --> 01:34:50

agreeing, which is good to agree. Right. But I want to genuinely

01:34:50 --> 01:34:54

want to know what is it that they would have against Islam? Right.

01:34:54 --> 01:34:57

And one thing I didn't mention that I think that a lot of guys

01:34:57 --> 01:35:00

who are living the way he does, I want to be live in nature. I want

01:35:00 --> 01:35:00

Want to have,

01:35:01 --> 01:35:06

you know, guidance in my life, I want my family to be together.

01:35:06 --> 01:35:10

They have that we have something in Assam that those fathers would

01:35:10 --> 01:35:14

really like it. I didn't want to go too long. But I wanted to say,

01:35:14 --> 01:35:17

Listen, when you guys are living like this, and your daughter says,

01:35:17 --> 01:35:20

Hey, I'm leaving, right? I love this family. But I also love

01:35:20 --> 01:35:24

Hollywood, going to Hollywood. Right? What do you guys say? We

01:35:24 --> 01:35:27

have rules for this. We have motum rules, we have marriage rules, we

01:35:27 --> 01:35:30

have something called Edward Lee. Right?

01:35:31 --> 01:35:34

That does not, that's not going to happen. It's just not gonna happen

01:35:34 --> 01:35:37

that I you raised you for 30 years, for 20 years.

01:35:38 --> 01:35:42

20 years I raised you 25 years you lived in this home, we protected

01:35:42 --> 01:35:45

you and raised you, you don't just get to turn that switch off and

01:35:45 --> 01:35:50

said, Goodbye, I love you, as I'll write you, I'll text you. I'm

01:35:50 --> 01:35:53

going to Hollywood to pursue my dreams of going to New York to

01:35:53 --> 01:35:58

pursue my dreams or whatever. We don't have that. And people think

01:35:58 --> 01:36:01

that that's something that it scares off like liberals it scares

01:36:01 --> 01:36:02

off.

01:36:03 --> 01:36:07

Maybe like a feminist leaning to people. But

01:36:08 --> 01:36:13

those are the rules, we have rules on how men can travel and rules of

01:36:13 --> 01:36:16

how women can travel, how men can live and how women can live

01:36:16 --> 01:36:18

because Allah said they're different. So they can't be

01:36:18 --> 01:36:21

treated to say they're not gonna have the same treatment one has

01:36:21 --> 01:36:26

the potential to be abused. And one has the potential, right to be

01:36:26 --> 01:36:31

used and to be misled. And is, is physically weaker, and the other

01:36:31 --> 01:36:35

has responsibilities. So where he's weak, we say get strong.

01:36:35 --> 01:36:39

Whereas if a woman has a weakness, we say, Stay as you are, you're

01:36:39 --> 01:36:42

not obligated to change your nature. Right? Whereas for a man

01:36:42 --> 01:36:46

who's you have to change your nature, you can't be a 25 year old

01:36:46 --> 01:36:50

and just living without any sense of responsibility, without any

01:36:50 --> 01:36:55

sense of growing up and working. Alright, so and even the men in

01:36:55 --> 01:37:00

the book, right, so parents, if a youth, a young men can earn in his

01:37:00 --> 01:37:03

town and his parents say I want you to live next to us.

01:37:04 --> 01:37:08

His mom and dad say to him, live next to us, because we're old now

01:37:08 --> 01:37:11

we want you to we want you around, we need you around, he's obligated

01:37:11 --> 01:37:15

to observe that he has to search for a job locally. First. I'm

01:37:15 --> 01:37:18

telling you, this team, it's stable. It doesn't allow for this

01:37:18 --> 01:37:22

insanity. But the same stability is a protection, right from making

01:37:22 --> 01:37:23

mistakes.

01:37:24 --> 01:37:27

If the parent lets him travel, then he can travel. If he can't

01:37:27 --> 01:37:31

find a job locally, then he can also disobey them and travel. See

01:37:31 --> 01:37:35

a lot of people talk about the obedience of parents. Last week I

01:37:35 --> 01:37:40

gave the lecture on when it is allowed to disobey not allowed.

01:37:40 --> 01:37:43

When is it allowed? And when is it obligatory to disobey your

01:37:43 --> 01:37:45

parents? Because they're two different things. There's a time

01:37:45 --> 01:37:48

it's allowed to disobey your parents and the time is when you

01:37:48 --> 01:37:50

have to disobey your parents. Now they're like, wait, wait, tell us

01:37:50 --> 01:37:55

about what's wajib. Okay, when is it obligatory when your parents is

01:37:55 --> 01:37:59

infringing upon your rights, the rights of others that you owe

01:37:59 --> 01:38:03

rights to? or the right of Allah subhanaw taala Cydia? Well guess

01:38:03 --> 01:38:04

what they want to do now?

01:38:05 --> 01:38:08

Study the city. Right? They want to know what their rights are.

01:38:09 --> 01:38:13

Right? So our Sharia, it's fair for everybody, that parents have a

01:38:13 --> 01:38:18

lot of rights. Children have some rights. And they're both given by

01:38:18 --> 01:38:21

Allah to Allah, there's no oppression here. So if you want to

01:38:21 --> 01:38:24

preserve a local community, that's what I suppose conservatives is

01:38:24 --> 01:38:25

supposed to be right?

01:38:26 --> 01:38:29

You, you, we can teach you how to preserve it. Not we're not we can

01:38:29 --> 01:38:34

teach you only Islam can preserve it. Because it needs the buy in

01:38:34 --> 01:38:37

from the hearts of everybody. And only Allah can guide those hearts.

01:38:37 --> 01:38:41

And it needs a crisp, clear cut law, what can I do? What can I do,

01:38:42 --> 01:38:45

then what's different upon we can discuss that, right? So

01:38:46 --> 01:38:47

Hamdulillah I hope that

01:38:49 --> 01:38:52

you know, the talk was beneficial. And he seemed to be someone who

01:38:52 --> 01:38:55

was very close to nature. And

01:38:58 --> 01:39:01

you know, you never know what's up. I think the best the best

01:39:01 --> 01:39:06

interaction with such people is to have many, over the years, over

01:39:06 --> 01:39:08

the decades, they'll see the difference. They'll run into

01:39:08 --> 01:39:13

things that I believe that you know, that they're the Christian

01:39:13 --> 01:39:16

world, or the Christian life, or this the general belief,

01:39:16 --> 01:39:20

conservative and believing life, this has holes in it. Like there's

01:39:20 --> 01:39:24

nothing that actually gives you security that you with your kids,

01:39:24 --> 01:39:28

you have to work for it for us. We'd say we don't have to really

01:39:28 --> 01:39:33

work that hard. We just have to be good enough. Nice enough and put

01:39:33 --> 01:39:37

them in the position to receive the seat of Amen. Than the taco

01:39:37 --> 01:39:38

we'll do the rest. Right.

01:39:40 --> 01:39:43

All right, let's take the q&a here. Real quick. Before we wrap

01:39:43 --> 01:39:47

up, clearly we're not going to be able to get to what we wanted to

01:39:47 --> 01:39:50

do. Okay, which was

01:39:51 --> 01:39:54

the shoot up but we'll do it Monday. There's no harm in doing

01:39:54 --> 01:39:57

it Monday. Don't have to be done just on the ninth or the 10th.

01:39:58 --> 01:39:59

Some comments here

01:40:00 --> 01:40:03

Rob's channel is called a slam for Europeans. And he doesn't mean by

01:40:03 --> 01:40:08

that Europeans continentally he means by that European American,

01:40:08 --> 01:40:13

European, I guess, Canadians whites basically because, yeah,

01:40:13 --> 01:40:14

because

01:40:15 --> 01:40:18

that's what they are. And there was a speaker there. His name was

01:40:18 --> 01:40:20

Abdul Malik. You remember I was a medic, the fundraiser. I don't

01:40:20 --> 01:40:23

know if you guys know him, he's to fundraise for Suraj Rojas. He's he

01:40:23 --> 01:40:26

so he says African Americans and European Americans. He said I was

01:40:26 --> 01:40:29

talking to a European American the other day and I thought like a

01:40:29 --> 01:40:33

Norwegian immigrant or like a Swedish immigrant. I didn't know

01:40:33 --> 01:40:36

what he was talking he said all these European Americans like I

01:40:36 --> 01:40:38

said, Hold on brother. Where do you see these Europeans? I never

01:40:38 --> 01:40:42

seen European immigrant right? What was the last time you saw a

01:40:42 --> 01:40:46

Belgian walking around right? Or a Swede walking around? He's like

01:40:46 --> 01:40:49

no, no, no, but I mean whites they originated in Europe. I was like

01:40:49 --> 01:40:51

oh, that's another word so

01:40:52 --> 01:40:53

so he's he uses that term.

01:40:55 --> 01:40:58

Alright couple q&a And then we wrap up for the day we got a

01:40:58 --> 01:41:05

hectic and a busy Thursday today which involves meetings meetings,

01:41:05 --> 01:41:09

meetings and office hours then class at seven o'clock

01:41:10 --> 01:41:14

then mug break fast for those fasting

01:41:15 --> 01:41:21

with a light break a fast if some samosas and then we got the of God

01:41:21 --> 01:41:24

or night of remembrance of the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa

01:41:24 --> 01:41:26

sallam here's the question learning edifices May a woman move

01:41:26 --> 01:41:29

out to live alone without a motto. They want to experience

01:41:29 --> 01:41:31

independent living not far from home for a few months.

01:41:32 --> 01:41:34

Nobody should have technically it's not allowed.

01:41:36 --> 01:41:38

I'm giving you the rule. Maybe there are exceptions here and

01:41:38 --> 01:41:41

there. You have to see if you're an exception, but that's the rule.

01:41:42 --> 01:41:45

Don't permissible for weddings only Yes, that's a medically

01:41:45 --> 01:41:49

position. The other methods No, they open it up the duff permitted

01:41:49 --> 01:41:53

all the time. Okay, and the Shafia even have discussion about the

01:41:53 --> 01:41:54

wind instruments

01:41:55 --> 01:41:58

and the other mazahub DPS from the duff to all precautionary

01:41:58 --> 01:41:58

instruments.

01:41:59 --> 01:42:02

Is it permissible permissible to work assisting in medical

01:42:02 --> 01:42:06

autopsies? Yes, it is. What is the reward of Oshana fasting the

01:42:06 --> 01:42:09

removal of since for a year got

01:42:11 --> 01:42:13

any other caught or da to do tomorrow?

01:42:14 --> 01:42:18

Jimmy father Roger Quran what

01:42:21 --> 01:42:25

spending on your family yet Miss specific ideas on that

01:42:29 --> 01:42:33

can you so some vicar gathering sometimes from your mosque weekend

01:42:33 --> 01:42:36

inshallah show some clips of that? What's the difference in meaning

01:42:36 --> 01:42:40

between suddenly and Berek? Berek has always test to do with

01:42:40 --> 01:42:43

increase, increasing something increasing.

01:42:45 --> 01:42:47

Something that you already have to bless it.

01:42:48 --> 01:42:54

Salah has the meaning that is greater than that. So there's

01:42:54 --> 01:42:59

Baraka, there's Rama, mercy, that means something bad will come

01:42:59 --> 01:43:04

soften or eliminated. There's all of these

01:43:05 --> 01:43:09

gifts that Allah gives a Salah is the combination of all of them,

01:43:09 --> 01:43:13

that's why it is the highest of all things. Okay, and that's why,

01:43:13 --> 01:43:14

for example,

01:43:16 --> 01:43:20

in Hydra last Kalani, he says if Salah means Baraka, then it's

01:43:20 --> 01:43:24

redundant. If salam means Rama, then it's redundant, right? So

01:43:24 --> 01:43:31

Salah and Rama and Baraka must and Salem must all have different

01:43:31 --> 01:43:35

meanings. Salam is known, avoid harm in the first place. Rama is

01:43:35 --> 01:43:40

known hardship comes soften it. Baraka is known have rare increase

01:43:40 --> 01:43:45

it Karim is known give you the hair in the first place. Salah he

01:43:45 --> 01:43:48

said is the combination of all these things and that's why it is

01:43:48 --> 01:43:51

the greatest of all things why the prophets I seldom is told in the

01:43:51 --> 01:43:53

Quran, suddenly I lay him

01:43:54 --> 01:44:00

means make dua for everything good for them. So as Salah is from

01:44:00 --> 01:44:04

Allah to His Messenger, sallAllahu, his and all the Hyatts

01:44:04 --> 01:44:05

okay.

01:44:06 --> 01:44:08

And when we make a lot on the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa

01:44:08 --> 01:44:13

sallam, we are pulling down from those clay dots for us. And the

01:44:13 --> 01:44:15

salam to the prophet is the personal greeting.

01:44:17 --> 01:44:20

It's personal as your personal greeting. And that's the meaning

01:44:20 --> 01:44:22

of a Salah was salam.

01:44:23 --> 01:44:29

And Salam also means avoidance of harm in the first place. Okay, so

01:44:29 --> 01:44:31

those are some of the different meanings.

01:44:33 --> 01:44:35

Is it better to fast both days?

01:44:36 --> 01:44:39

Before and after? No, just one of the two days.

01:44:40 --> 01:44:42

But if you were to do both, it doesn't harm you.

01:44:44 --> 01:44:44

Okay.

01:44:46 --> 01:44:50

What if a woman is divorced, still impermissible to live alone? It's

01:44:50 --> 01:44:55

not not it's when she lives with her Willie, and leaves without a

01:44:55 --> 01:44:59

reason. Right? And of course life. We have these rules.

01:45:00 --> 01:45:03

Those are the rules. There can be exceptions to the rule, there can

01:45:03 --> 01:45:08

be a time where she can't live with her Willy anymore. Firstly,

01:45:08 --> 01:45:10

the willie may be so old cannot protect her, for example, maybe

01:45:11 --> 01:45:14

cannot even provide for her. Maybe she's the provider for the Willie.

01:45:14 --> 01:45:19

No, it's always the city as desired to have the woman with her

01:45:19 --> 01:45:23

mahtim. But sometimes she can't. There are we're not unaware of

01:45:23 --> 01:45:27

that there are unique situations, right? But we don't change the

01:45:27 --> 01:45:30

rule to bend to unique situations. This is the rule, you may have a

01:45:30 --> 01:45:32

different situation, right.

01:45:33 --> 01:45:37

And you may be sinful in what you're doing to just because we're

01:45:37 --> 01:45:39

friendly and nice with people doesn't mean don't admit to you're

01:45:39 --> 01:45:43

also sinful, right? Happens all the time with my friends. Right?

01:45:43 --> 01:45:48

So I first came, he said, but you can say Bismillah and eat

01:45:49 --> 01:45:52

McDonald's. And all these places. I said, No, it has to be

01:45:52 --> 01:45:55

slaughtered. Right? People have the book. Yes. If the person of

01:45:55 --> 01:46:00

the book slaughters, if I go to the Amish, and the guys right

01:46:00 --> 01:46:02

there wearing a cross. He's the People of the Book, and he

01:46:02 --> 01:46:06

slaughters the cow. Good. That's where I'll say Bismillah on it and

01:46:06 --> 01:46:09

eat it because you slaughtered it. Okay.

01:46:10 --> 01:46:14

So he said, So you're basically saying that I'm doing something

01:46:14 --> 01:46:18

haram said, Yeah. You think I befriended you because you're a

01:46:18 --> 01:46:21

saint or you're a prophet. I befriended you because you have

01:46:21 --> 01:46:25

more good qualities and bad, but you also have bad qualities. This

01:46:25 --> 01:46:27

is how I'm what you're doing. Right. So

01:46:28 --> 01:46:31

it's okay to say to someone that what you're doing is haram and

01:46:31 --> 01:46:34

we're still friends. You're not publicly promoting the haram.

01:46:35 --> 01:46:39

Right? You're making a mistake. Right? Innocently making a

01:46:39 --> 01:46:42

mistake, maybe out of ignorance. Now, maybe you're stuck in some

01:46:42 --> 01:46:46

situations. So I don't also it's not reasonable to say okay, now

01:46:46 --> 01:46:49

that we know the ruling, tomorrow, we got to change. Very few people

01:46:49 --> 01:46:53

have that strength. Right, very few people. Alright, some people

01:46:53 --> 01:46:56

live with a little bit of cognitive dissonance. I know I'm

01:46:56 --> 01:46:59

not supposed to be doing it. But they don't have yet to go. The him

01:46:59 --> 01:47:02

to change it. Or they're not totally convinced by you either

01:47:02 --> 01:47:05

because they're heard it from one person. And they hear from 10

01:47:05 --> 01:47:09

other people. No, you're fine. So they don't, it's not firmly

01:47:09 --> 01:47:13

established. All that you come to realize is the case when you're

01:47:13 --> 01:47:18

trying to promote and preach a law book. This is the law. There's no

01:47:18 --> 01:47:22

discussion. Yet at the same time you live with people have

01:47:22 --> 01:47:26

different levels of certainty, different levels of him different

01:47:26 --> 01:47:30

levels of Taqwa. And we're also trying to get along. Right?

01:47:30 --> 01:47:34

There's not such a massive Muslim community. And it's not the way of

01:47:34 --> 01:47:38

Dawa and the way of the Habib that you only live with the people

01:47:38 --> 01:47:40

living 100% by the law, then you're not gonna have any friends,

01:47:40 --> 01:47:44

right? We live with everyone who has a goodwill towards this lamp

01:47:44 --> 01:47:46

towards the Muslim comes to the massage and trying to do their

01:47:46 --> 01:47:50

best. And there's a range so you may be in that range. I don't know

01:47:50 --> 01:47:52

asylum, but I'm telling you what the law is. That's what we should

01:47:52 --> 01:47:59

aspire to. Okay. Okay, hustle and bustle is said, if every person

01:48:00 --> 01:48:02

only teaches what they practice,

01:48:03 --> 01:48:06

nobody would teach anything. Because even if we were to be

01:48:06 --> 01:48:09

judged by the law book, you're going to find many misdemeanors,

01:48:10 --> 01:48:11

many mistakes.

01:48:12 --> 01:48:12

Okay.

01:48:18 --> 01:48:21

Now, this brother is talking about this shirt. You know what this

01:48:21 --> 01:48:27

shirt was? It's a weird, there's a weird American Pacific Coast's

01:48:27 --> 01:48:32

thing where guys, they were. It's like a thorough job. But it's so

01:48:32 --> 01:48:37

skinny. And it's cut all the way to the top. Right. So it's a weird

01:48:37 --> 01:48:42

garment. But the beach guys wear it. I don't know why they were but

01:48:42 --> 01:48:46

they were right. So I saw the top and I bought it.

01:48:47 --> 01:48:50

But then when the whole thing came, it's a very weird garment.

01:48:52 --> 01:48:55

Yeah, so then what am I going to do with this? It's like a long all

01:48:55 --> 01:48:58

the way down to the ground. But the sides are slit all the way up

01:48:58 --> 01:49:02

to like, as Archimedes said, what I'm gonna do with this thing, I

01:49:02 --> 01:49:05

just left it there for weeks. Then I thought Hold on a second. Want

01:49:05 --> 01:49:09

to just cut it. I just cut it across. And I'll have someone so

01:49:09 --> 01:49:14

the edges later, but that's how mostly we need shutter a shirts.

01:49:14 --> 01:49:18

It's like a long, this is like a Long Tunic. Skinny tunic, right?

01:49:18 --> 01:49:20

Weird. You can't wear it as a job.

01:49:21 --> 01:49:26

So just cut it across. So we need shutter a closed, right? All the

01:49:26 --> 01:49:29

clothes. I've been complaining. The shirts. They're all like skin

01:49:29 --> 01:49:34

tight. Okay, I'm not even gonna lie to you and say I'm not going

01:49:34 --> 01:49:39

to wear a skin tight shirt because it's form revealing our form. Not

01:49:39 --> 01:49:42

many people have that much muscles that they're going to be a fitness

01:49:42 --> 01:49:46

anybody, right? But you have another set in your body that you

01:49:46 --> 01:49:50

don't want people to see. That looks terrible, right? People they

01:49:50 --> 01:49:54

have stomachs, right? They look terrible in these clothes. Right?

01:49:54 --> 01:49:59

It's skin tight and he's got a stomach, right. I once saw a guy

01:49:59 --> 01:50:00

who

01:50:00 --> 01:50:02

He's making fun of himself as a man I need to lose weight. And his

01:50:02 --> 01:50:07

daughter tried to be nice to him. She said but you're not fat. You

01:50:07 --> 01:50:08

just look pregnant.

01:50:10 --> 01:50:15

His daughter, but some guys they use you guys a guy should not be

01:50:15 --> 01:50:17

wearing tight clothes. You

01:50:18 --> 01:50:22

I could see if you are fit. Why you're tempted to wear tight

01:50:22 --> 01:50:26

clothes because you work so much. You want to show a little bit of

01:50:26 --> 01:50:27

it right?

01:50:28 --> 01:50:32

But you're not that you are someone who is unfit. Okay, and

01:50:32 --> 01:50:37

yet still are wearing these tight clothes. So we need like more

01:50:38 --> 01:50:43

shutter a close, so I now buy anything that is wide. And if it's

01:50:43 --> 01:50:48

like a kameez, then I cut it. Right? If it's like way down to

01:50:48 --> 01:50:53

the way long I cut it, I cut it a mid length. That's neither, like

01:50:53 --> 01:50:57

short. Nor is it too long. Right and you could wear it however you

01:50:57 --> 01:51:00

want to wear it. She was like we have 11 sisters starting up like

01:51:00 --> 01:51:02

these clothing companies. Yeah, like you know, hello clothing,

01:51:02 --> 01:51:07

whatever. But then it's like the prices are insane. Yeah, retail is

01:51:07 --> 01:51:10

a miserable business that h&m Yeah, I just go to any old store

01:51:10 --> 01:51:13

and I'll cut the clothes. Same thing with the with the pants. I'm

01:51:13 --> 01:51:18

not wearing cut up bottoms to be cool. I just cut the pants right?

01:51:18 --> 01:51:20

Because you know that everyone's wearing ripped clothes these days.

01:51:20 --> 01:51:22

Right? I just cut them

01:51:24 --> 01:51:27

and if it get to somebody who knows how to sew I'll get to

01:51:27 --> 01:51:33

somebody but in the meantime I'm just wearing it as is but the

01:51:33 --> 01:51:38

other thing with the Desi soaps right so I went and I saw a friend

01:51:38 --> 01:51:40

man a perfect sarcomeres I saw this perfect for male guy and I'll

01:51:40 --> 01:51:45

cut it but let me tell you what the like. I want to tell the world

01:51:45 --> 01:51:49

does everything have to have some flowers here. Can we go

01:51:49 --> 01:51:53

minimalist? I'll save you the effort right? Charge me the same

01:51:53 --> 01:51:58

price but can do we have to have 1000 designs right on the thing

01:51:58 --> 01:52:02

can we just get a plain shirt? And that would be my garment like

01:52:02 --> 01:52:08

Junaid Jamshed yeah Junaid no flowers. Oh good. So we have a

01:52:08 --> 01:52:11

Junaid Jamshed there. That's what I need. I need to go get a whole

01:52:11 --> 01:52:15

bunch of those those shirts, okay? And I don't care about the size

01:52:15 --> 01:52:17

now. Right The bigger the better because I'm going to cut

01:52:19 --> 01:52:24

and none of these little things. Well that's we in the West we

01:52:24 --> 01:52:26

don't wear that in the East. They love that.

01:52:27 --> 01:52:28

Right?

01:52:29 --> 01:52:32

All right, ladies and gentlemen, we have to stop here. Just Docomo

01:52:32 --> 01:52:38

O'Hara Subhanak Allah Moby Dick. No shadow Allah Illa illa Anta

01:52:39 --> 01:52:43

nostoc Farooq when a taboo headache well as in Santa Fe, of

01:52:43 --> 01:52:47

course. It'll Alladhina amanu administrator had to watch a while

01:52:47 --> 01:52:49

so but Huck what was said let's close with draw a note.

01:52:50 --> 01:52:55

Okay, what is the dua for having a lot of successor brothers asking

01:52:55 --> 01:52:58

with kulula Kathy rondalla controvery Hoan Allah says in the

01:52:58 --> 01:53:01

Quran very simple with guru Allah cathedra not looking to freehand

01:53:01 --> 01:53:06

you want to have a general success. We did have success much

01:53:06 --> 01:53:09

remembrance is not any specific victory. It's muchness of the

01:53:09 --> 01:53:12

victory we must do with good luck if you don't allow them to

01:53:12 --> 01:53:17

freehand What do you want? Give you the shot job a shot

01:53:18 --> 01:53:22

this one Amanda Rahim Allah Madani Nord on field Calbee one

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misogyny no or or while Tony Nora were jolly Nora or SallAllahu ala

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more certainly you know Al Hamdulillah he robbed me.

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us

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know

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who you are along

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