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Bismillah al Rahman al Rahim Al hamdu lillah wa Salatu was Salam
ala Rasulillah who are early he was r&b or Manuela welcome
everybody to the Safina Saudi nothing but facts live stream on a
Thursday, which is tomorrow was Yo Ma showed up today is the day or
last stream before a shooter. And so we you we will be discussing
shoulder today. But first, there was a brother who happened to know
Owen Benjamin become friends with him, I guess friendly with him to
the point that he could invite him over to the stream. And I said,
why not? The more we talk to people, I'm always into talking to
somebody new.
And let me begin with what everyone probably may say, Oh,
you're given a platform just because someone's interested in
Islam, of course. What do you think we want to do? We want to
give Dawa and we want and how does that begin? It begins by talking.
So anybody who is interested in Islam, he's only he's the one that
respond. We talked to a lot of people. We tried to get a lot of
people on but you know, their Instagrams accounts or your
Twitter accounts are so busy. Not everyone gets back. Alright, so
we're open to talk to anyone who has a genuine inclination towards
Islam. Right. And so that's, that's, that's the motivation
clearly, obviously, we don't endorse a lot of things that
people have done in the past and people. Everyone's got a past.
Right? If that if you're gonna go that you cannot even have a
conversation with someone because he has something in the past.
We say Okay, fine. Where's the line? I would put it as this one.
If someone is sad, but Rasool sabich Dean someone is a cursor he
curses your deen
and never took it back. Never said, Okay, I was young, I made a
stupid mistake. But he this is an enemy of your religion and devout
and then what's the purpose of talking? All right, I would say
this even for another Muslim who has a deviant belief.
Okay, there will be you know, how we talk is gonna have to be
moderate. So likewise, here you have a man, he's not a Muslim. So
the you don't expect him to observe by those rules. But Nate,
his approach towards Islam, there is some kind of
leaning towards it. And that's what we want to investigate. So
we're gonna ask him how Islam even got on your radar, what he finds
appealing and what stops him from entering slot? Like we're, we're
very open about what we do here. We this is how
if it's hot, why don't I invite people to it? Right? And what does
he feel about Christianity? What does he feel about? What is the
one of the most destructive forces in society? And who, who, which
faith is appearing to be or which followers are appealing to
withstand these things, right to withstand these problems in
society? And I'm telling you, for Muslims in the world today in the
west, to just be basically good Muslims. That's it basics. Right?
You're it's it's it's a it's a massive, stark difference between
the right where the rest of this country has gone. Just the fact
alcohol doesn't enter your home, you know, how much that alters
people's lives. People's up entire upbringing is consumed because the
dad comes back drunk, and they don't know what's gonna happen,
right? Their entire upbringing. This is like on their mind, it
destroys lives, it destroys upbringings, just humble.
Just the fact. People know and don't know who their parents are.
Right? You believe that? There's, I was talking to a convert. And he
was saying that in his family. There's a nephew. We really have
doubts about him.
Like my brother's son, like this, not your son, man. And he says,
No, he's my son. And I say No, he doesn't even look like you. And he
said, I can find the guy who it is right because people know who's in
the circle, right? It's that guy's son. That's it discussion.
Subhan Allah, something 99 times less than that would be a fitna in
an Islamic in a Muslim marriage and Muslim practicing Muslim
household 99 times less than that. That's cool to watch. A shutdown
would never even come close to this. a practicing Muslim family
why? It's not just you behave well. When you're practicing
Muslims. Allah protects you. If two people are on the deen of
Allah subhanaw taala ALLAH SubhanA wa Tada will stop the fitna
earlier, something would happen and boom
stops at way earlier. So I'm saying that for Muslims just to
practice the fundamentals of their deen and have these results.
People are not aren't stupid, and he's one of the people I don't
think he's stupid. He sees the big difference. He says these Muslim
people say what you want about them, they're brown they're from
other countries and make fun of they don't got these problems.
Something about their deen is a firewall just seems the
shutter just does it stops at a certain point. Right? The evil
just doesn't penetrate at a certain point. Okay. So that's the
purpose of this and that. So what were
you know what our intention is with this interview? There's
another guy want to interview we already became Muslim, but I still
want to get him on. What was his name? The Norwegian brother
Bobby's perspective. Yeah. And there was another brother who we
did this years ago way before the livestream, what was his name?
This guy was on CNN, his life blew up because he supported Palestine.
Do you guys remember who that guy was? But his is that he had an
inclination towards Islam. But we didn't get so far because he's a
complete, like type of
perennial list view of things. Like, yeah, I'm Muslim, but
there's a lot of other truths too. And he's very far on the left.
That's why it didn't go so far with him. What was his name? guy
who was on CNN, and then he was pro Palestine got kicked off CNN.
He's a professor at Temple. Oh, wasn't it? I bought him to MBSE to
have this type of discussion. Not Don Lemon, not Don Lemon, no. Mark
Lamont Hill.
He is a Muslim, like he's Muslim, but a lot of his views are more on
the left wing side of things than Islam. And I don't and he isn't
about he's tells you I'm a Muslim. We had great relationship in the
sense of as brief as it was. He's really nice. He gets along. He's,
so I enjoyed talking to him. But again, what is my purpose? It's
Dow. I'm not going to just talk to someone because I need friends. I
don't need any more friends. Hamdulillah. Right. I'm here to
talk to people to for the purpose of as a self appointed, I guess
you can say ambassador for Allah and His messenger. All of us are
whether we like it or not. And Allah is commanding us to be His
ambassadors go tell people about the deen talk to them. Okay. And
that. So I did talk to Mark Lamont Hill, we had some discussions, and
we never really continued. Right, but at least it's a bridge. He
knows where I am. Some of the positions in Islam, he just
couldn't take it his his whole career, his all his friends, his
whole life, would just he can't get close to someone like myself,
especially when we say about Comey, Lutz and all that. Right.
He he can't get too close. So if you're very cozy with the left
side of things, there's a limit. I remember like some things he said,
Well, what do you say about this? Right? I said, you know, about
like komoot. I said, this is what we say about right?
And he just went silent. Because you know, like, if he keeps he
says something like that he's finished axe. So I understand that
I'm sensitive to that. But that stops him.
On the right side, I'll tell you what it is. It's Israel. And there
are a lot of guys who support all of our family values of Islam.
They liked the fact that it's that we're clear about what we believe.
And we're not wishy washy, perennial lists who all truths are
the same. But they can't come too close to us because they're the
Palestine Israel should they are staunch Zionists. And that's what
you're going to find from a lot of the
high end of the leadership of the right.
Okay, the leadership of the right, they can't come close the Muslims,
and they have to stop any of this rank and file people being not
interested in Islam. Their instant Islam because they see this the
only group of people that is putting up the fight, let me tell
you something as a criticism within our community, every time I
look and see,
oh, a group of Muslims have, you know, marched
and given interviews on why they believe in the opt out and they
don't believe and a group of Muslims are speaking out.
Let me tell you, what's a criticism and what's a problem?
It is always there always either immigrants, or African Americans.
African Americans don't know how to speak out. They're not afraid
of anybody. They've been speaking out for ages. Then they fought
worse things. Physical brutality that we can't even imagine. Or
immigrants who don't know what it means to be cool. Don't have that
on the reference point. Don't have old friends in high school don't
have that sense. You know, that said the walk in completely
awkward. He doesn't care. It's not his country. Right? What? There is
not enough of now the coalition of virtue is led by this by one of
them second generation, Desi or Arab or ethnic whatever second
generation,
Kadeem when he is that right? But there's not a lot of others.
It's as if the second generation they're too delicate. They just
they Oh, they still want to be cool. They still want to be within
they don't want to be cringy. Now these immigrants don't care about
being cringy Hey, go in there and say I
I'm here my name was man I am disagree. Er Okay, opt out, blah
blah blah right?
He has no none of that softness that delicateness and that's a
criticism for us this is there is a bad thing about this whole opt
out this rise up who's leading it? Not the Imams and not the second
generation
it's the normal regular most of the moms and immigrant dads and
some maybe second generation okay
just looking at a lot of the stuff that judging this from the bird's
eye view
of
you know the testimonials let me let me get let me read you one
testimonial they play for you a clip okay. Just listen to this
brother. Okay.
Let's do this brother
Good afternoon everyone. My name is Theodore Schmidt. I'm testified
today as a US citizen who live on the county council Orthodox
Christian parent in us and communication targeting the
protest against your decision to add LGBTQ books you made it clear
that it was no phaser someone identifies audition of pro LGBTQ
books in elementary school as you get the point right. The guy
doesn't care any one of his next generation second generation
Wilson would really be soften it up and maybe not do it all that
stuff. Right.
So that's where we stand and that's a little criticism. How are
we on this interview? Where are we is it going on? Did our brother
our middleman get back to us
yeah
good
learning Adam says Bobby got a digital attack apparently lately.
Well, what happens and who attacked him?
What do you mean a digital attack?
Listen, any of you listeners know of anyone
from outside the community of Islam who was interested to
learning about this? Okay.
Learning about Islam has any inclination towards Islam? You
tell us we want to bring them on and talk. Right? And oh, why don't
you talk in private because people talk in private these public
personality don't have time to talk in private right?
And we want everyone to see the conversation what they say on the
record lasts a long time. Right? That's what's important. All
right, still people by the way that Imran Hussain video was like
five to double the views of every other video because they got so
triggered triggered by it. Okay, so
thing is about
what is wrong with saying something about Imran Hussain?
When it says methodology we didn't criticize the man or spread any
slanders about the man but you know people are just you know what
they are
okay
all right let's take any q&a Now because we're probably not going
to be taking many q&a
afterwards because we have to read about give a short
you know, I wish we could have done more but this interview came
up at this time about a shooter and we can inshallah continue
talking about our shooter later afterwards. Nothing stops us from
continuing on Monday
Yep, they're back.
Because all his followers
know that y'all YouTube addicts in 19 years old, unemployed. No
offense to you guys. But that's how you appear if you're doing
this. Tell me something. Does anyone with a regular job, go
around? You know, commenting incessantly like this for days and
days and days and repeating the same comment no one with a job do
that.
What is our shoulder and what is the reward of it?
Our shoulder has many many benefits and blessings amongst
them is that it's a day that the Arabs always fasted, okay.
It's a day that the Arabs lost the knowledge of why they fasted in
Mecca these vessel shooter
and the reason they fasted shooter had to do with
the sin Abraham and sin Ismail are shorter is the day that Allah
selected according to a thought we're not going to say so he had
it's a thought that Allah selected for many momentous events
such as
the flood of knew that they were saved on our shooter
or was it the sorry the they landed on our shooter?
Okay,
the Benny is Surah Eid were saved. Okay, okay. They were saved on
Assura Benissa were saved on a shoot.
So our shooter became a day in which the Ismail said followers
are Satanists made fasted, and the juice fast, except that the
followers of Satanists made last the reason they forgot the reason
why they fast that day, which you can which happens, right? People
have events people have things in which
you know, things happen in the side and they forgot the origin of
it.
Halloween is one of those examples, people just took a treat
but the origin of it, it has an origin people forget the origin.
So
when the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam arrived at Medina he
found the Jews also fasting it so we asked what you fasted to? He
said, Yes, on this day, the Red Sea was split for us. We were
saved from frown, because of on this day, so we fast so the
Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said that we are more
worthy of fasting it so we fast two days, so too fast. I showed us
one day you get the reward of Assura cleansing of sense. Okay,
heavy, Ballmer said it's like highlighting files in your
computer, hit one button Delete. This is what we do with our sins.
Right? And some of y'all asked to eat what do you mean to easy? Why
would you get involved in Allah's decision? If that's how Allah
wants to treat our minors Now, what does it not? It does not
alter your debts, you offended somebody. Okay, certain things you
still have to fix. The sin of the action can be deleted. Okay. But
the result of the action has to be addressed. Okay. result of the
action being for example, you offended somebody, okay, the
sinfulness of this behavior, fine. We can remove that can delete that
with ease, but the offense that you did to somebody
we have to do address. All right, our guest is here.
Let's do a Mic check. Dragwon check to
check your mic real quick. Someone's maybe it's all right.
Thank you very much.
All right. Oh, and Benjamin, thank you very much for coming on. I
think a lot of our audience do know who you are. And, but some of
them don't. So while I'm about to you adjust the camera, so it's
like, he's a bit we're making make us even in our sights.
That's good. Perfect. Yeah. And sorry for being late. I thought it
was 130 Pacific Standard Time. So no problem. No problem at all. No
problem at all. So
I want to tell everyone that Owen Benjamin is an outspoken former
comedian formerly in the world of entertainment, and lives in in New
York, upstate New York. So you're actually not that far. I know. I
don't know. It's Idaho. Yeah. I thought it was Oswego, New York.
That's your hometown. That's where I'm from. That's how I was born.
Okay. So now you're
that's mountain time. Now, Pacific Standard Time. All right. Yeah.
Yeah. Okay. I don't even remember where Idaho is on the map, to be
honest with you. It's like Montana, if you actually look at
the border of Montana and Idaho. Yeah, I swear to God, it looks
like Joe Biden is smelling somebody. If you look at it. It's
his exact
shine. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, well, now, they'll do comedy. I just
don't do it in the B system anymore, but we do that something
fun to talk about, about how we got out of that because I got
banned from all the clubs and theaters because I was making fun
of *. And that's a big, that's a big no, no for the bees.
So, you know, I still do comedy, but it's just private. You know,
it's
it's so funny that one of my one reason why I'm into talking to you
is one of my best friends is Muslim. And he showed me you know,
how things are controlled with usury and stuff like that. And so
like to get around the debt, because that's how all these
theaters and clubs are controlled. Is there on debt. And so the
whoever controls the, the what's it called Reba owns the theater.
So it's like, so I really got to see behind the scenes a lot
spiritually when it came to how things are control because it made
no sense. I was like, wrapped at CAA. I've been in Sandler movies.
You know, Comedy Central specials that was Vince Vaughn's closing
act. I was a lead of a sitcom for three years like I was my pictures
painted on the wall of the Hollywood improv like I wasn't
some spring chicken and to watch them shut me down. It wasn't
because I was arrested or anything or it wasn't because of a morality
issue was because I wouldn't go with the trans kid issue or out
and I was openly making fun of it.
* and it wasn't like I was being crazy about it. I was just
doing this bit about how gross it is because I had a gay friend that
was like, Oh, you like lemon grass, and I'm not gonna insult
your audience with vulgarity here. But I started making fun of him
about what he's into, you know. And so I didn't realize that that
was one of the pillars of the peace system is you got to promote
Simon then to see how usury controls the whole matrix. I was
like, wow, I didn't even know what the word usury was. And so, yeah,
that's why I've been, you know, the spells around Islam for me
broke with the 911 truth or stuff. Because that's such a key
component, like they tell what they want our freedom or whatever.
And then to really see like, how many things you guys are aware of
morally that keep you know, the gender roles and the usury and all
that stuff? It's been really an amazing experience. So that's a
little background on me. Okay, good. So the private equity firms
that run that, that invest in media and comedy and and
Hollywood, there are only a few in number right now. Yeah, recently,
someone had put something out there that all of this is driven
by only a handful of private equity firms. So you're the second
one who's who's made that same? So who are some what are some of
these private equity firms? Are they known in the public sphere?
Well, if you just look at those pyramids, you can just the higher
up you go, the more you just see that they are just controlled by a
small amount of people. I mean, you have the big ones, like you
know, Disney, and then Viacom and all that. But the higher up you
go, it gets real spooky. I remember like during the COVID
stuff,
that one of the biggest holding companies is called jab holdings,
literally J A B, they love these little jokes. And they own Panera
Bread, Beyonce, like they own Beyonce. I'm like, why?
Like all these little puppets that they have? Yeah, it is a small
group. And but the thing I focused on as the as the grassroots ground
up stuff, because I just don't look up. I don't look at them as
much as I used to, I just see them as like a den of vipers. And I
just look more to like, I farm and I have four sons and I, you know,
I do my live streams, I tried to build a try to build a replacement
for everything that I see is bad. Like, we have a totally clean
social media called bear Taria times where we don't allow
vulgarity. We don't even allow truther stuff. And I'm like a
truther guy. And because I wanted to replay it with no debt, no
outside forces, you know. And so that's what I focused on. I used
to look at the who they like, whose day and I went down all
those rabbit holes, and I got really mad at, you know, Zionism
and all that stuff. And then I started being like, well, you
know, they can't stop the sun from shining and the fruit from growing
and that's, that's where I'm focused now. So you're you have
this motivation. Now, what is your main driving force?
is Christianity or is it Well, I mean, Christians, I've had a riff
with a lot of quote unquote Christians, because I always
consider my Well, not always, but for the last several years
consider myself Christian, but I'm not into the Trinity. And
you know, and I'm not even like mad about it. I just asked Who is
Jesus praying to? And that sparked this, like, horrible fight on the
internet. And so it's one reason why I think I've some of my Muslim
listeners relate to me is because apparently, in Islam, you know,
Jesus was praying to God and so because my question was always,
why would God pray to himself and it's very, and I had no agenda
around it either. I want to go to a church like I'm not like this
dogma shaking religious guy, like I'm not, you know, I like to not
idle smash people's religion as much as possible. But at the same
time, I'm like, Well, you know, and then I made fun of Paul a bit,
and because I'm like, so So Paul was the last prophet that because
God can't or Jesus, who you claim is God came to Paul. So therefore,
Paul, and then they're like, they just get really mad. A lot of
Christians don't get mad. A lot of them are really great people. But
the ones that you know, seem to really want to hold that monopoly
on only through us do you get to God.
There was a real riff and that's why I talked to like Eddie, you
know, from the deen show and all these guys because I related a lot
to
to Islamic scholarship when it comes to when it comes to that,
you know, so what do you think is the biggest issue that your you
tweet a lot as if there's a matrix A, a destructive force in the
country? Yeah. Why don't you expand a little bit that and this
Second question is who or what is resisting it? In your view? And
your great question? Yeah. Well, I mean, I think, man, it's like
every week I almost would have a different answer. That's an
interesting question. I, I think the matrix is almost like a set of
agreements in your own head, where it's like,
that's why I like to what they call spell break. They say, you
know, on Benjamin, the Bard, king of bear tardy breaker of spells,
Millgrove, goat goats, you know.
That's another funny thing is, I have a ton of goats now. And so
and people, well, we'll get into that another time anyway. Go to
but it didn't end very well. What happened? You're not allowed to
have them in the city. So they just took it away. I had to turn
it back to the form. So yeah. Oh, nice. Yeah. I liked it. You had
you had the audacity to get it going to say that. Like that?
Well, we were in the middle of the city where a place where people
wouldn't complain about it. And we have a yard where we where we're
at. But there was construction on the road. So a cop was walking
back and forth, saw the goat and then decided to call us in. So
that's how the our goat got taken away. But continue.
Oh, yeah. So I think the matrix is almost like, in your head. It's
like a set of agreements, like what do you like, that's why I
like to spell break a lot of these deceptions. Like, why these media
based deceptions? Because I think the matrix is anytime you're not
having gratitude. And you're just accepting your, you're basing your
actions on an on like a given like in a logic proof. It's called a
given like x equals four, y equals three, like your Givens are off.
And so you're in this like, deranged matrix world. And I think
that there are people that do create that, to keep people in
this * scape, you know, like, ingratitude is a big problem. And
I, I became friends with the artist formerly known as Kanye
West, you know, yay, and his quote, and we had a long talk
about this once that he said, slavery is a choice. And that's
what got people so mad at them, because the victim narrative that
a lot of African Americans have, is that they will always be this
victimized class and yay, said slavery is a choice. And that, you
know, I related to St. Augustine, when he said, talked about that,
too, like, you're, you're only a slave to your vices. And so I
think the matrix is, you know, trying to keep you drunk and dumb
and sterile and without family and alone and isolated and ungrateful
and all that that's how you make a man in a state of slavery to
to the world and not God, you know, and so I I think fighting
against that, that the number one thing which I know you guys teach
in Islam, which is really cool, because I tweeted about this and a
lot of Muslims really pumped about about, it's just gratitude, you
know, like our, our family prays every meal just to be like, What
are you thankful for? And when you're grateful to like, mercy,
you know, the Merciful God and the provider, you don't fall in the
traps as much because I think
ingratitude is pretty much the quickest, fastest highway to
slavery by, you know, the evil the devil, the rebellion, the envious
one, the shaytaan, you know, like, it's, it's there. And it's like,
there is a, an abstract evil in this world that is envious and
wants to be God and can't be God and wants you in his army. But
like, he's always throwing his own soldiers in the fire like he hates
anyone who loves him, you know, it's really interesting. So he
when you talk about this in Idaho, I don't think there's much of a
Muslim community because I want to ask you what do you your
comparison your view of things? Which you see how Muslims you
don't do you get to see how Muslims live at all?
Well, yeah, one of my best friends up here is Muslim as I said, and I
know a lot I know people that that are Muslim adjacent up here, but a
lot of them are like Christians. It's like one of my my Muslim
friend was like, Jesus peace be upon him is what he said to me
guys brought the word it just got really corrupted by the churches.
So really authentic Christians and authentic Muslims actually get
along really well and there's not this huge rift that people think
there are you know, it's like
you know, that if you really read what Jesus said and really think
about it, it's not off the Islamic way of life and that most of the
lies are in the dogma you know, it's in like that. Like it's in
like some of these. What's it called the Scofield Bible and all
this you know, like all these like manipulations, and so yeah, there
isn't a mosque up here like my buddy goes to Spokane.
to a mosque there, but there is a way of life here that I find
deeply spiritual and deeply connected to God, you know,
because it's very agricultural, very homestudy very family
oriented. And that way of life gets along really well. I mean,
there's a lot of
like really more like herbal St. I wouldn't call them pagan, because
they're not, I don't know how to describe it, but just kind of like
really into,
you know, herbs and nature and hunting and all that stuff. And
they get along great with, you know, they'd get along great with
Muslims, because they're just all about the truth. You know, let me
tell you this, there was a guy who said,
he put up a picture of some degeneracy and a video of some
really stuff that you find on lives of Tiktok. Right, put that
up. And he said, The future is either this, or it's Christian
nationalism. Right. So my response to that was, I don't think that's
the case, because Christianity had 100% monopoly. over the continent,
there was the only religious message, and you had every, all
the forces supporting it, yet it led to this. So it's one thing it
is true that most of a practicing Muslim practicing Christian, we're
going to get along well, but when we're talking about strategy,
we're talking about the past, how did we get here?
And this is one of the biggest points that Muslims bring forward
is that we got here because of the flaws embedded in Christianity.
Okay. Now, I know that you said earlier, I don't want to smash
anyone's religious, so I'm not gonna ask you to do that. But I'm
telling you the our perspective, the flaws within a Christian with
the flaws within Christianity is what led to this. Right? The
inability to convince large, massive swaths of generations to
choose that path over a path of temptation. You look back at the
time of Elvis is a great comparison. Like he inflames so
many temptations and desire that whole culture, right? Yeah, that
whole generation had a choice to make, right. And you got to look
at the big swath. So my response was, of course, the guy didn't
respond back, I said, You guys had a whole 200 years, 300 years.
We're here because that medicine didn't do the job. So my question
to you is, you have a lot of tweets, talking about Muslims, you
know, being resistant to these things. That's what I want you to
talk about what drives you to make those tweets, you're making the
same observations we made, right, because I'm a truther. So it's
like, Whatever the truth is, I'll talk about but I will say this,
humans are capable of bending and twisting the truth. And I, you
know, because I can see, there's certain forces in Islamic culture
that could end up being nonsense, like what happened in Catholicism
where they're just worshipping bones, and a guy's got a big
phallus on his head, you know, it's like, with like, naked kids
all over the Vatican, like, you know, how do you get to that
point? And so I think the advantage Islam has is there's
only one Qur'an, like, I like to look at the fundamentals, where
it's like, because Christianity should work, but why does it keep
getting twist? Like why do they keep saying boat? This is the
phrase that really I think gets people in a bad spot, but what he
really means is, and then you just start doing this Talmudic
reformatting definitions of words, and anyone can do that. Like,
like, if you look at like the Andrew take right now, like he
will throw out stuff that is very questionably Islamic, you know,
and
and you're just like, is there forces at work in Islam? Because
Islam is
where you can start saying, Well, you know, to be a good Muslim you
got to act like Andrew Tate and get a bunch of webcam girls in
Romania. And but you know, and you're like, Well, this is what
happened to Christian because if you look at Christianity in 1850,
it looks a lot like they're following Sharia law. You know,
you have women covering their heads, they're wearing long
dresses, women are not to be on accompanied by you know, on a
company without their husband all this stuff and you're like, so how
did you get to Coldplay concerts in a mega church with rainbow
flags? Like how do you get to that point? You know, and so I think
the advantage Islam has that I really hope you guys hold on to is
you know, it's uh, the Koran doesn't change and you guys all
learn the same language like imagine if the Bible you like
learned it in Sanskrit, and it was one version and you can't just
keep manipulating it. I think a really strong thing in Islam right
now is that the Quran and Arabic is learned by children and they
know all the words and so it makes it way harder to manipulate and
bend and say, Well, I you know,
The King James Version, this version, you know, because then
you just get in, it's almost like my friend Vox calls him Bible
lawyers where they're like, they're like arguing points. Like
it's more about their will, it's very satanic. It's very like, do
as thou will, where you're like, where you're just trying to make
an argument to justify your behavior. And so I know Muslims
are capable of doing that, because all humans are like, we all have
that temptation. And when people pretend they don't like when
people pretend they're self righteous, that's a real problem.
But I think the fundamental of one Qur'an where you memorize it, when
you're young is a huge advantage. And I would, I would be very happy
if if there was that in Christianity, but like the
translations and the fractured nature of it, I think can get a
little. It's almost like it's like a crack in a sidewalk where it
opens it up for more cracks. Well, let me tell you this, like,
part of you said, what you said, was 100% True, the Prophet peace
be upon him said that Judaism would divide up in 71 sects.
Right, which either it's literally 71, or it's a lot of sects,
Christianity, you know, they say there's 72 genders. Like, it's
funny how these words line up, like
Christianity will divide up into 72 sects. And he said, and this
nation will divide into 73 sects. So the point being, is that the
ways of misguidance our ways of human behavior, right? Human
beings do the same thing. Now, but where's the difference? The
difference is that so in one sense, the Prophet is saying,
we'll have even more Muslims will have even more
strands of misguidance within it, then the previous two religions,
but the difference is the follow up question. They said, Well,
which one do we follow Him, messenger of God. And he said, the
mainstream, which is the difference being good, and the
divine protection of the of Islam is that the sects get marginalized
real quick. So we never negate their presence, but they get
marginalized real quick. And the reason they get marginalized real
quick, they don't exist, you can find them in the books, you can
find them online, you can find people, but they will never infect
the mainstream permanently. And the reason is that the way the
Prophet taught was public,
the, the Quran was recited publicly, five times more than
five times five times in every mosque. And in Medina, there were
like, 10, at least 10 masajid. So that's fifth, well take out the
silent prayer. So that's 30 times at the very least. So the you
cannot corrupt something that is public, everybody knows it. And
there's no one central organization, unlike churches tend
to be centralized organizations. So the theology of Islam is never
it was something that was just spoken publicly in front of
everybody. So that if I want to go off back to my city, and cook
something up, right, that is bending to my will, that serves my
people and myself, I could probably do that and get away with
it until another Muslim comes in. Yeah, exactly. Right. And he
claims the fraud that's in the Bible. That's why the main problem
with Christianity is they're not listening to Jesus, like Jesus
said, or two or three, gather in my name, that's a church and Jesus
also did everything publicly. Like it was all about the public and
like having the word be accessible to everybody. Yeah. And so that's
why it's frustrating sometimes to see Christianity because it's,
it's that's in the Bible, you know, and Jesus would say, you
know, when people would try and worship them, you'd say, No,
worship my worship God. And then people are like, oh, so that means
your God. And it's like, no, that's how you create the idol.
That that allows this all in that's why I don't and that's
really cool. You guys are like that. I like that like the public
repetition of what the standard is decentralize it because yeah, the
Catholic Church is a nightmare. It's like that centralized
political control. And you know, that's kind of what happened with
Israel like Israel and the Vatican are very similar with like, they
put they made it a political entity, you know, like the Vatican
is a nation state it's a country Yeah. And the same thing happened
with Israel. That's why I know a good amount of my Jewish friends
aren't even into Israel because they think it kind of undercuts
their their religion because they're not supposed to have it
until they get the their Moshiach or whatever. So it's, it's
interesting stuff. I just, I judged by the fruits and I see
Muslims with large families. I see them as grateful happy people.
Typically, you know, you're always going to have your issues but I
really liked that. Mohammed talked about how the hypocrites
it
Is is, you know, the worst of them all like the ones that do these
these
these public acts, but privately they're cynical and self
righteous. And I just think that you know, I'm I enjoy a lot of
your communities and you know like, like Dearborn Michigan I can
tour and and I can't do are in New York and I'm a I'm a comedian, I'm
an American. So it's like, that's crazy ironies are wild, you know,
like I could tour right now in Saudi Arabia easier than I could
in San Francisco. That's crazy. Yeah. And I like to point that out
on Twitter because I like to show it in people's faces, what their
freedom actually got them like, quote unquote, Freedom is slavery,
you know, what is the end times like in the version of
Christianity that you look up to that you that you take inspiration
from? What are they have about the end times, because this is the end
times, is an extremely important theme for Muslims for a certain
reason is that we're living so far removed from the time of the
Prophet peace be upon him. And one of the greatest drivers of Muslims
faith is reading the prophecies of the End Times. And when they
Muslim reads that, it's as if the prophet is living right amongst
us. And it's and what a prophet is, how does it profit, validate
himself, right? That he's truthful. If one person comes in
and says, follow this, we in Islam, we don't follow one single
claim? Once you bring it with three, four claims, or bring five,
six people to verify this person, then we can follow it right?
That's That's how our study of transmission is like that.
How do you verify a prophet who has the moral capacity to verify a
prophet? Nobody, right? Only people verify their equals, right?
So prophets come and God verifies them by prophecies, the one thing
we all agree is out of our control is the future. So if you are
talking to God, and the only God knows the future, we all agree on
that. Tell us something about the future. That's your verification.
Good. So the prophecies of the Prophet came a lot of them early
on, for the companions. And for the first generation, then you
have a gap. A lot of prophecies did not occur for the middle
period. And that's because they Muslims didn't need them. Right?
You had massive Muslim empires, they didn't need to be convinced
of Islam, the world convinced them of Islam. The success of the
nation of Muslims convinced them, but you come to the end time, and
now you have Muslims scattered all over the place. And you have
crisis after crisis. There's not one single Islamic country that
you could say, Wow, this is it. This is our beacon for the world.
Right? So what drives Muslims, individuals to hold on to their
faith? It's the prophecies of the End Times. And you have little
booklets of these prophecies. The manuscripts are still there. It's
not something someone made up.
The manuscripts have been there for centuries. Nobody knew what it
really means. We know what it means, like we see it right in
front of us. So here's the question is what does that drive
Christian communities to? Because this is our biggest driving force,
or one of our, I should say, one of our massive driving forces. And
even there's a prophecy about that. There's a prophecy that the
Prophet peace be upon him said, you will see things you've never
seen before, then someone in the gathering will say, Did the
Prophet say something about it? Right. So the very discussion
about endtime prophecies is a prophecy. So Paula, so that's my
question to the Christian world do they have a concept that helps fit
all that's happening into a framework? For the end of times?
Well, I don't want to speak for the Christian world because you
know, I'm seen as quite a controversial figure in that
world. So just to put that out there that I'm not great represent
representation of mainstream Christianity but I think the
return of Christ and all knees will bend is something that they
really look forward to. And I personally am not as then times
motivated, I look at the daily fractal reality of what people
say. I will say this though one of the most impressive prophecies of
Mohammed was the airplane, you know, that's insane. Like my
friend was reading me the description of the airplane and
that was that was pretty cool
but but yeah, I'm not I'm personally because I That's why I
don't represent you know, mainstream Christian thought but I
don't really think about the 10 times as much as maybe I should
but I just think more about the daily fractal reality where like,
if you live in a certain way, what is your life like? Like are you
feel blessed? Do you see the fruit do you have the and the, I would
say, like one of the greatest prophecies of Islam and
Christianity if it's followed properly.
aid is just the resistance to the evil you see right now, you know,
and I know some hardcore Christian nationalists that really respected
watching Qatar, not buckle to Globo homo as we like to call it.
And that was a big bridge, like to see resistance to see men with the
ability of saying,
No, is to me incredibly validating for somebody's religion because
everything else is just words. You know, it's like, if you have the
ability of, you know, and I and some of my British listeners have
gotten, you know, they don't like mass migration, but I always tell
them, that's not Islam. That's mass migration. That's like
saying, Mexicans coming in to Texas is a Christian invasion.
It's like a rhetorically inaccurate thing. But one thing
they will say is the most hands on anti LGBT parents are the Muslim
immigrants. And that's powerful. And so for your listeners, that is
that does work on people that could normally hate you. I'm
actually really respect when you do that, like when you have the
ability of withstanding and standing against the abuse of
children and the grooming of children, and you stand up
publicly for that. That's really powerful. And I think that that is
a really solid
statement to your faith. There's been a couple of things that
altered the relationship between Muslims and conservatives in the
middle of the country. So nine, there was already a preconceived
notion. There was the first Iraq war. Then there was some bombings
that happened in I think, Kenya, right. And then there was a USS
Cole was bombed, then finally 911 was happened. And that basically
put a massive line between conservatives and Muslims, which
is why Muslims, they went to seek refuge more with the left who are
more sympathetic.
The Qatar World Cup, in my opinion, it tied Islam to a global
sport, which very hard to sell, that all these people are
terrorists anymore. Right? Yeah. Like it totally put like bleach on
that. So then recently, this summer, this June, all the opt out
marches, also really got on people's radar, and started making
Alright, the middle of middle America, conservatives say hold on
a second. We can benefit from this. Not only are they no longer,
the terrorism's thing sort of waned away. But also, we'd like
this, we can benefit and you know, they got a result. All right. So
where do you see the future of the general conservative middle of the
country and Muslims going in the future?
That's a That's a good question. I think that the truth around 911
and stuff like that is definitely helped Middle America Islamic
Relations. I mean, I know some dudes that fought in those wars.
And they're now extremely sympathetic to
Islam because they realize the a lot of it had to do with poppies
and their weapons of mass destruction was gold back money
and you know, but for a while we couldn't have even conceived of
that. Yeah, this is the interesting thing about
conservatives quote unquote, is a lot of them the resistance to
Islam is because I think a lot of them want to keep their
* and
their metrosexual lifestyles, I think, I think Islamic practice is
the actual conservatism in America. And so and, and, you
know, I know Christians that are like that, too. I'm not going to
discount Christians that are do that. But if you will get
mainstream conservatism like, you know, like a Dave Rubin is a gay
man, quote, unquote, married to a man who adopted little boys like,
that would be seen as so extreme on the left 15 years ago. Yeah,
that I don't
you know, I just think that that's, that's a situation that's
happening. And I think that
the future belongs to those who have kids and who show up and who
work hard and I think that is you know, the Islamically in America
they're having more kids and with a lot of the Mormons you know,
like, whoever has kids and works hard and stays out of debt and
stays away from sin will win regardless of what people feel or
want. You know, when I see that in the billionaire quote unquote
elite class a lot is they end up with no kids or no grandkids so
their bloodlines dead and yeah, oh, it was all for nothing was all
sand and that's why you know, this obsession with money and status
and stuff like that is really all for the it's all for the birds.
Yeah. It's something that's gonna lower you it's almost as
As if the blessing of wealth
takes away from the blessing of kids. And you end up with the more
impoverished nations within a couple of decades, they're more
populous than you. more populous nations have better economies,
right?
You mentioned some extreme case of a conservative who is gay married
guy, but
in the conservative world is there is *? Is there something
clear in the Bible that talks about the sinfulness of something
like *
was culturally it's a problem for right wing Christian America. It's
a huge problem. And so that's why it's one of the main things I
speak against. And when I toured in the Middle East, I was in Iraq,
Kuwait, Oman, all this performing for the troops. This is like 15
years ago. And when I was trying to act as I used to, like, watch a
lot of *, and now I don't at all, because I realize
it's a trap. But I tried to look at it on my phone, and it was
banned, and I remember getting so mad. And then later, when I saw
the trap of it, I realized that how powerful that is, and that's
why I keep trying to ask, I keep trying to bring that into the
conversation of like, when are we going to ban *? Like, when are
we going to stop treating our women like prostitutes, you know?
And so that's a very, very powerful thing that Muslims should
really hold on to not that I need to tell you guys that but that's
why did that really viral tweet about showing
a billboard in Hollywood? of like a basically naked woman, I don't
know if you saw that tweet in mind bear guy like millions of
impressions. And under it was like a message to Iran about burning
your burger or something. And I did a tweet, like, don't go down
this road. Because right now, this is where it goes like that is not
to enslave you, it is to protect you. Yeah. And you know, like,
there are images of women in these really hot looking things that do
what kind of crazy but from a Western perspective, but it's
good, it's good to cover your body. It's like that, that, that
protection isn't, again, I know that the whispers of the demons
will tell you like, Oh, they're just trying to keep you down. You
should be an airline pilot, you should have like, you should have
all these things. I'm telling you guys, like as I've watched this
happen, and 20 years, it's gotten so bad that like, oh, like it's a
normalized thing in America now to to sell your body on on *
for money. You know, and it's they're all on pills. They're all
alone. They're sad, like a woman's strength is your family. And so it
was funny doing that tweet, because I was basically warning
the Islamic world like, no, like, this is what comes of this, like,
you will see your sister on a billboard naked if you start
listening to this stuff. So I think
*, I think is blatantly outlawed in the Bible. But it
isn't clear. And one thing I've always challenged Christians to do
is kind of come up with laws. That's why I always like to
promote Sharia law. I'm like, that's a set of laws with a moral
compass. Like, don't just get mad at it, if you have problems with
it, which thing do you have a problem with? And what would be
your law based on the Bible and, and the whole, and I think that's
very important. Jesus in the Bible said he wasn't here to overthrow
the law. You know, that's another big misconception is you have
ideas like he would no sin cast the first stone, but then they
don't really explain it. And I was raised Catholic as a kid, they
intentionally don't explain it, that the next part is and now rise
and sin no more like what Jesus was doing was, he was in a very
sinful culture, trying to help people choose to get away from it,
because you couldn't force it on people. You can't just force real
on people, they have to want it, you know. And so to teach people
how to like not sin, so that they can start building a culture where
that's seen as crazy and you can actually punish it was what he was
doing. He wasn't saying, Oh, we all are full of sin. So let's just
all sin. Like, that's literally Satanism. Yeah. So that's my
thoughts on that. So let me ask you this. You talked about what
impresses you is a visible a visible, individual or family
based behavior, right, that, that this is what works and that
you're, you're demonstrating this. But it has to be that there's a
driving force behind that, which takes the leap from the anecdotal
what my eyes are seeing. This is good to the rational or
intellectual, which is the theological aspects of things,
right? So that's where that's where the LEAP is, and that's
where you got to have a driving force behind this and the driving
force
Let's say, let's say in a Muslim culture of practicing Muslim
cultures, a lot of Muslims, they don't they don't practice their
religion, right. But in a practicing Muslim culture, when we
sit together and say something is forbidden, right? It is absolutely
irrelevant. Whether or not you know how bad the result is,
because the verses right in front of your eyes, and the word has one
possible meaning, right? It's explicit, which is an and what's
the, what's the root of that? The root of that is that you believe
that this book has come down from God as a revelation to the
Prophet. So it has to the anecdotal is linked to the
theological, right? Yeah. If the theology isn't there, the actual
faith and belief, this is God's word discussion over there's
paradise here and heaven here, right. And then you got to water
that plant of belief. Now that plants a belief, you got a brain,
you got a View and make sure that it settles with the mind. That
yes, the Prophet did speak, the truth is not just a transmitted
myth, right, which goes to the like studying the chain of
transmission, what we call the chain of transmission to ensure
this is actually what the Prophet said, No one messed with it, no
one altered it. And this is why I believe in God and His Prophet. So
that's the theology that we find to be the most important root of
all this. Is that investigation, that theological investigation,
right now, here's my question, the conservatives, who tend to have a
sympathetic view towards Muslims, or a friendly view towards
Muslims, right? They seem to really be impressed with the
result, but very unwilling to study the theology, or they
haven't made that connection yet, like Muslims do not get a result
because they're smart. Because they plan this. I remember, what's
his name? PVA. What's the guy's name?
Patrick bet, David. Yeah, him. He said, Muslims are really smart.
They do this, this and this. And I'm like, No, Muslims do not do
any of these things. There was no room board room where we made this
plan. No planning is happening. It's just individual Muslims, they
get the verse, they believe in it, they see the verse, they practice
it, multiply that by a million, then you get the results. That's a
really good point. Yeah. So that's the question is, like the
conservatives, they liked the result. But there's not yet that
introspection of the source of the result. It's kind of raised to
it's like I was raised, like, my father was a professor. And I was
raised
in a very reason based, pragmatic, utilitarian way. And I do have
that way of thinking, and you're absolutely right, I was talking to
a friend about that.
It's probably a weakness of mine, where I think, well, what are the
results? And if you're motivated by the results, you're probably
not even going to get the results. That's the irony of that. That
you're right. Like underneath the the tip of the iceberg is the
belief, the faith, the theology, and so yeah, I can, I can admire
it. And I can see that and not necessarily feel it on the level
that
is creating such fruit, I have faith in God, I see, you know, I
have a deep faith in God and I, and I have an admiration for
religion that that quote unquote, works. But the reason it works is
because of faith, I totally see the point you just made, but it is
how my mind works. And that's why I think it's cool to, to raise
children with with faith. And I think that one of the aspects of
Christianity that I think is an unspoken weakness is the
acceptance of translations and King James and like, I've made fun
of King James to tell I mean, the guy looked like a fruitcake, you
know? And so it's like, and so it's like, if you have a more
valid, you know, I was a historian in college, I really take history
seriously, like primary source documents, secondary source
documents. When you have a, as you say, transmission, it's almost
like in, in law, the chain of custody, like, who had their hands
on it. Did anyone put some poison in the soup? You know? Yeah. And
so if you can get a good chain of custody that looks the most
logical, it allows people to have more faith in it. Yeah, I don't
have a ton of faith in documents because I wasn't raised with it.
And it's like habits and culture that I do think
is an issue and a lot of American culture, a lot of Western culture
because, you know, there is a hubris and a self righteousness to
say, well prove it to me, you know, and I realized that like,
I'm not God, I didn't create myself so so for me to say like,
Oh, I get to like, you know, prove it to me. But that's how it's it's
just weird culturally. It's how I was raised that wasn't raised with
you know, being raised Catholic you don't have you don't even have
faith in the Bible at all. You're supposed to listen to a guy in a
robe. You know that but no kids who do
definitely just pick that job because he sucks at life like
that's, and you're like, and you got to eat a cracker with its
flight, like all the practice and me and my brother used to just
laugh like we never got super into it because it was like, this
cracker is Jesus body. We're like, Nadia, we just saw you open the
box of crackers. Like I know for a fact that isn't someone's body.
Yeah. And so that's created this like lack of
faith. And you know, like, what you were just saying, like the
results, I'm in nature all the time, like, I'm always home, I
like I farm, I've no doubt, like I really tried to live away, that's
the most nature based way. Yeah. And it's almost like the vibration
of a bee just makes a hive without intention. And they're like, the
most perfect shapes. You know, you look at ants, you look at all
these things and and it's just the their overall vibration, you can
almost call it faith creates these giant structures around them. And
you have like the inverted faith, like the faith in the material,
the faith in yourself, as God will create these like, horrifying,
postmodern apocalyptic structures. And so yeah, I see that because I
used to think that way about a certain small hand group that we
don't need to talk about, right thought that they all had this,
like, meeting and cabal and all this. And the more I look at it,
the more I don't think so I think it's like, their way of looking at
the world culturally, is just creating these structures. Yeah,
yeah. And it's the same with a lot of Muslims. Like, it's like, the
way that the way their faith is oriented the way their internal
world is oriented. It's just starts creating this. And it's an
it creates vast wealth, like, but the good wealth, you know, the
good, like, non usury based wealth isn't bad, you know, like wealth
is only bad if it's replacing the wealth of like, family, you know,
but you can theoretically be incredibly rich and blessed. You
know, it's just, it just can't be that parasitic upside down
material. While there has to be like, in service to community, you
know what I mean? And yeah, and that's that, that real and good
wealth, it tends to grow slowly. Yeah. Right. without sacrificing
anything, and not leaving a
body bags, like emotionally behind you like you divorce your wife,
your daughter hates you, all that type of stuff. So I love that
analogy that these ants are producing these things, and they
don't know they're producing it. That one B is just doing its job.
They didn't there was no master plan to sit down and make this
unbelievable Honeycomb, that you see, every bee is just doing its
job. So when you look at the Prophet peace be upon him, did not
make there is not you cannot find certain statements on the prophet
of what is Islam's plan? What is the political plan? Right? Yeah,
what the Prophet did is he just rectified every he gave you
individual rectification advice. And he lived it. And his
companions watched him live it, they lived it, they transmitted it
to their kids, and Islam spreads as a religion of the simple
individual, then the family unit has its rules, then you and your
neighbor have its rules, right? And so on and so forth. So
wherever you throw these people out, wherever these people are
sprinkled, and do what they're supposed to do, some form is going
to take place that's admirable. That's Yes, I think this is a more
controversial claim. I've said this before, and people spiral a
little bit. But I think Thomas Jefferson was greatly influenced
by Islam. And
I think it also because Islam matches very well with agrarian
lifestyle, so does actual Christianity. And I don't want to
sound like like the whole No True Scotsman guide is judging people
but like, you know, that's why Jefferson rewrote the Bible and
took out
took out Paul,
you know, because, and, in Thomas Jefferson's Temple Room in
Monticello is the Qur'an, you know, so it's pretty undeniable. I
mean, he had issues with with some Muslims in the Philippines in
blah, blah, blah. But overall, he established like a lot of the
United States, the Declaration of Independence, is about the
difference between public and private and all this stuff. It
seems heavily influenced by, by, you know, the governmental
structure because one thing that Mohammed did, that Jesus did not
do is set up a government like, like a structure that you can
actually function in. And so, when the founding fathers were setting
up America, I think that it's pretty obvious that there was a
heavy influence because the Qur'an was a major book in the 18th
century in England. Because if you're trying to shape a
government of wealth and prosperity, it's like even if
you're doing it in a utilitarian way, I don't know if you had faith
in Islam necessarily but you have
After look at that, like, you have to look at how the Medina was
reshaped and how that, you know, the Islamic empire. It's not
really taught in Rockefeller public schools in America, but it
was so wealthy and so vast, that if you don't analyze, like how
that functions and how the courts function and how, you know, like
the rules of private versus public, which I think are great,
that's one of the thing that drew me to Sharia law as a structure is
public versus private, like you have a right to bring your kids
out in public and not see *, like what you do in
your home is between you and God. But you can't bring this in public
because, as a citizen, I have a right to raise my children in
innocence. And so that's something I find awesome about Islam. And so
it's like, if you want to, you know, be disgusting in your home,
like, we're not going to kick in your doors or anything, but like,
you can't bring it out. You can't keep it there. Right. But keep
it's all about you're not allowed to teach it. Like if you want to
have Santa Claus come down your chimney and kiss in the mistletoe
and all these like strange practices, that's fine, but you
can't do it in public. And so America actually has that in a lot
of ways. Or at least it started that way. And it's just slowly
kind of eroded. But the whole thing is public. And decency is in
our law codes. And it's just, that's why media is so important.
And why the the quote unquote ruling elite are so obsessed with
harnessing media and consciousness because a law is only a law if you
believe in it, like what you were just talking about with faith. And
so if you look at it, like * was considered a mental illness in
America when I was a kid, it's like so recent, that there's no
doubt nosedive is happening I think a lot of it has to do with
the mind blowing ability to shape consciousness on the internet and
why I was so bad without I've never done a call to violence.
I've never been arrested. I've never, you know, have a great
marriage. I'm like, liked in my community. And so what was and
then they'll they'll put like, complete murderous criminals on
you know, Applebee's commercials. I'm like, so what is it and it's
because they're threatened by the conscious awareness. And, you
know, because I think we're born. Another thing that separates me
from mainstream Christianity is an unbelieving original sense. So
it's like, and neither did my mom. Like when I was baptized, she
called it entrance into Christian community, because she said, a
baby is born without sin. And that's an Islamic practice. And so
I think that we have a draw to go back to God like to go back to the
truth. And if that's what the matrix is this false reality that
they put us in, where we're like, Oh, it's good to be evil, like,
it's good to do these terrible things. But then when you're when
you're presented with another alternative, you like, feel that
you want to go back to it, you know, yeah. And so that's why I,
yeah, that's my thoughts on that. I want to make a comment and hear
your reaction to it. But and then I want to ask you a question. So
two more things. I don't want to hold you up too much to too much.
I know, it's just the morning getting started there. But the
first comment is that when we talked about how the Islamic
empire produced a great amount of wealth, and had all these results,
and if you're founding a country, it would behoove you to examine
how previous nations kept it for so long. Yeah. One of the
important things is that the Prophet peace be upon him when a
when the prophet comes down, and teaches us it's so important not
just to have the lesson, but to see all the bad reactions. And how
does the Prophet handle this, right? So that when you go down
the path of wealth, let's say, or nation building, you must
eventually be prepared to go into the field of battle. There's going
to be a conflict. I'm a righteous Muslim, and my employee is sort of
ripping me off. He's not working hard enough. Is it merciful to
fire him? Right? Do I should I feel guilty? So in religious
examples, this is why the we believe that the Prophet Jesus,
His message came to complete Moses his message, because Moses led
people write Moses own things he had married, he had a marriage, he
had children, Prophet Jesus, we say that in his first coming did
not have those things. So that cannot be the example. If I'm an
entrepreneur, I want to be a righteous, God fearing
multimillionaire. Right? How do I do it? Jesus did not do that. His
disciples didn't do that. All right. So I gotta we'd need a
bigger example. So that originally Jesus was supposed to be in the
context of all the Hebrew prophets. So I spoke with David
was a was was, was a King Solomon was the richest man on earth and
was the most beloved to God simultaneously. So that's what the
so the common is that
With the when you have an example, you can't just have a good example
you need to see the conflict. How does that Prophet engage in
conflict? So righteous conflict is something that exists. And that's
where, what you said, Man, you have a priest who doesn't marry?
Well, how do you know how to handle a conflict? Then? How do
you know how to raise a kid? Then? How are you an example. And that's
harkening back to the first thing I said earlier is that when the
Christianity ran the country, right, but it didn't give an
example to JD Rockefeller, what is that he was really religious,
right. But JD Rockefeller was he was a hardcore, religious guy. But
where was his example of a billionaire?
Like, how does he relate to Jesus? How does he relate to the priests
or the whatever? Leaders? And that's the point where it what is
what Islam also gives us is an example of all the unspiritual
things that happen in life, and how to navigate them righteously.
So, you know, if you have anything to add to that, no, it's really
good point, I mean, how to navigate like how to put it into
practice, because
that's what a lot of us are now facing, because now it appears
like there's this collapse situation happening. And
I don't know, if you've looked too into, like what we do with bear
Taria, where it's like, we're trying to set up a decentralized
trading ability and be able to do business with each other and keep
it within our community and have families and all this stuff. Like
we have our own social media, as I said earlier, and our own magazine
to promote our culture and all this stuff, because I'm not
looking to overthrow any government or overthrow anything
or fight anybody, like, honestly. But I am seeing that the future
may be a rebuild. And so I love seeing examples of how someone
does it. Because you're right, there is a whole thing like people
say, Jesus king of kings, but it's like,
where in the New Testament is there an example of how to
actually be a king of a country because it's really difficult. And
even just running a small online community that we have meetups,
and we're decentralized, as I said, like the conflicts, and the
the way it has to be handled is so difficult that I think sometimes,
people like to slip into a quote, unquote, spirituality to avoid
the secular realities of like, trade routes, and all this stuff.
And as much as people can, like, mock the Jews or get mad at the
Jews, like, at least a lot of them are managing the banking sector,
which is hard, you know, and I'm trying to like, you know, my, my
hate my farmstand except silver, like, that's my little,
my little
what's it called, just the smallest thing I can possibly do
to try and get around fiat currency. But
it's very, very difficult. So, you know, to see somebody start a
functioning country is powerful. And, and I think that's to be
looked at, and I don't think it's to be feared at all, you know,
because some people, it's almost like they view studying Islam as
cheating on their wife or something where it's this, I see
that in, in some Christians where as soon as I bring up a hadith or
a teaching or something,
they freak out like it but yet I can bring up Harry Potter no
problem, you know, and it's like, Harry Potter. You know, I'm saying
where it's like, so are you really this purists that can only hear
the Bible but yet we can all watch succession on HBO together, like,
what is this like? So you can't look at like Islam is so similar
to the teachings of Christianity, but you can't look at any of the
wealth. Like there's this hadith that my friend was telling me
about. And I don't even know if it's a hit beads, but it's a
lesson that is taught about the fall. No, it's not a Deeth I don't
know. But it's the fall of, of a rock, or it's the fall of the the
empire of of Islam when these like horse archers are coming in. And
they were just slaughtering like, one woman could slaughter like 50
Guys in a house and are screaming like, you have a gold plate, you
have a gold plate, why can you get more warriors and so to be taught,
the softness that comes from wealth, and to hammer that into
your children because right now, as you can see, like
the Saudi royal family, and a lot of the Middle East is becoming
super rich. And I think what they're facing is saw, you know,
that, that softness that can come from that. And so that lesson is
crucial in that lesson is crucial for Americans and Christian
Americans. People that run businesses like what happens when
you get so rich? You forget to lock the door. Yeah, you know,
well, there's, there's this dude's eating rats on horses that can
slaughter your whole family. If you don't say, Okay, it's it's
amazing. You should read
A little bit of the history of the endless and endless in the stomach
West's face this two times, they became extremely wealthy and
extremely fine art into the fine arts. And they just they became
too, too elite to follow the strict codes of the Sharia. And
they fell into this. So wine drinking, we turn a blind and not
turn a blind eye. Things like that. They start turning a blind
eye, they became corrupted mess. Yeah, the Christians came in and
started defeating them. Yeah, exactly. Right. Now the Islamic
scholars of the East discovered that there were these nomadic
nomadic Bedouin, like people who started to learn Islam. Right.
These guys were fighters. So the first group that called the
Morava, it's Almoravids. In English, they came up, and they
push back to Crusaders and went back home. So the famous Imam
Ghazali wrote them a ruling, he said, If they give the Christians
come back, you are obligated to go and conquer and to loose and rule
it. Now, here's the thing.
All they had was your basic Islamic law book. Right? They were
not super scholars. But they had studied for one generation Islamic
law that taught them how do you run a court who can be a judge?
That is you run a military, right? Who's responsible if something
goes wrong in the country, you had people who were one generation
earlier, absolute Bedouins. But because they learned the law book,
right? In a very basic capacity, they were able to run a country
and run not only country, a civilization, right? And a loose
is something here. They were coming from the borders of
Mauritania, Mali, and Senegal, down here. But because they had
the law book, they were able to manage it. And this happened
twice. Then they ruled and and to loose the wealth of Andalus, over
100 years got to their heads, they became corrupt. Another group came
in and did the same thing mopped up. They mop them up. And we end
because they had the law book. I'm telling you, I think I'm sitting
here with the room of about seven guys, right? I think we could
actually, because we study right? If you gave us Rhode Island right?
Now we could run it.
Yeah, that's merciful. That's the thing. It's almost like, it's the
David and Goliath story where it's like, you, you beat the giant with
the blessing, which is following the law. So it's like, it's so
fascinating to see. And the same, a similar thing happened to Rome,
where they got so corrupted, and so secular that the Germanic
tribes took them. And it was like, merciful. There's like, it's not
even like, quote, unquote, conquering it's almost like,
I don't know, I like that, because we're gonna see more and more of
that, where you're seeing, like,
people that desperately need structure, you know, and they're
there. They're just like falling at their own addictions. And so
that's why money doesn't win wars, like I was, I was saying this
years ago, and people said, I was crazy. I'm like, dude, Afghanistan
is the new Switzerland. If you look at it, it's like, okay,
Switzerland used to be warriors, and mountainous and poor and
hardcore Christians, and they could beat anybody. And now you
have Afghanistan beat, you know, the great Goliath of America with
like, you know, rifles and stuff, and just by not consenting. And if
you look at where it's situated, like as the world's well shifts,
you have the mountainous region, right, in an area where you have
the Indian population, China's manufacturing, Russia has
resources and you're like, that's, that's the new Switzerland. And
so, as the West falls into indulgence, and it's so
interesting, because that the money and the positions and the
aircraft carriers, they really don't matter. It's like, if you if
they're just being driven by a bunch of transsexuals on math,
it's like, they can't shoot straight, you know?
That's the whole day, you're not gonna last if no, no, if it draws
out, you're gonna be so depressed, you just gotta want to put your
hands up, right? And I walked down, we go to Manhattan, we go to
places. And I just say to myself, these people need conquering. We
can teach you how to live, right? You might not you may be kicking
and screaming, but give it six months you'll be thanking us,
right? Like if we had conquering benevolent God, we reframe real
quick because, like I talked about how slavery isn't evil, so I
reframed it to build your buddies because like, Hollywood's made the
word slavery sounds so insane, like conquering. Sounds like
death. So
As someone who is conquering they think, Oh, you're gonna get your
crooked sword and you know, kill them eaten it now Now imagine a
world where it's restructured. Or like, it's everyone has been dying
of fentanyl. You know, it's like, it's like, that's what's killing
people. It's killing people's their own indulgence. Like imagine
if there was like a, you know, like a business sector that wasn't
just this like, malevolent, you know, gross beast that makes
everyone poor. That's why the Islamic empire got so rich and
various empires and Christendom have gotten so rich is when you
follow, you know, God's law for money, gold, silver, and then how
you, you implement business, you get rich, slow, but when you get
rich, you get super rich, and this upside down Fiat world, you get
rich real fast, but then when you get poor, you get real poor and
live fast. And you're gonna want people that know how to run a
court and the American court system is pretty good. It's just,
it's just been corrupted. It's just been, like, handled, you
know, it's just been handled by people that, that, you know, they,
they're just too indulged. It's like, so what it really means is
we can be drunk all day. And, and you know, like, now, dude, you're
losing your edge. And so I think with the word conquer, it's not
about like, like force as much as it is just a restructuring,
because because, you know, I think a lot of the West has become hyper
emotional. So like these, because I trigger people all the time. So
I have to always think about, like, what a word means to people.
Yeah. So like, a restructuring. Sounds great.
What you said about slavery? Like, if you look at it from the Islamic
context, what is the origin of slavery? The actual origin of
slavery? Is a nation coming to try to kill you? They're armies trying
to kill you. Right? So you took them captives.
You had the moral right to kill them. But there is now another
option. I take you prisoner, I can kill you as a prisoner, right then
and there on the spot. And nobody has any moral qualms with that,
because you were just trying to kill me. Yeah. Or, I could
actually benefit from you because you have skills. So when it's what
Islam comes, does not come at promote.
Slavery came to give it some kind of softness, because it's not
going anywhere. And to give it some kind of rules, you cannot
abuse you can't whip you can't do all these things. You can't starve
him. You can't hit him, you, but you can benefit from him, because
he was trying to kill you. You can sell him, right? So he came with
those things. So it's not like so the word slavery also, like you
said, people get triggered, we have to just give them the idea.
That's what slavery was. That's the origin of it. And that's the
morality behind it. You were trying to kill me. Right? So for
me to benefit from your skills, and mercy to you. And it's also
dead, it's like, and you can become a slave because you're so
in dead. And then you can get out of slavery. It's like, I'm against
racial based slavery, obviously, you know, like, is Hollywood's
made it like, Oh, if you like, if you're okay, with slavery, that
means your race, like you, you think Black should be slavery.
Now. Now, like, people don't realize they're already slaves
financially, like 13 years of slave.
That joke, the joke I did about as I was, like, I thought that
student loans, you know, it's like, it's like, they already have
a mechanism of slavery that you can't get out of, and they put you
in a little queue. And so if you look at the Islamic slave codes,
and how like the slave is, gets to eat the same quality of food is
the master and stuff like that. It's actually a better system than
the current system. And you're right. It's like, when you're,
when you're at war, you can either just execute everybody or, you
know, keep them alive, allow them to possibly get out of slavery,
have a family, can they follow your rules, if they can't follow
your rules, and they might have to go, but, you know, it's like, can
they be reshaped because a lot of the citizenry in war is fairly
innocent. So if you're shooting at someone, they have a right to
shoot back at you. If you're captured, they might just be, you
know, a peasant. Like they're not Yeah, evil. You know, it's like,
like, look at Americans like America has been a part of so many
of these disasters, wars. And if you if you take the average
American like, are they evil? No, it's like, would they are they
like, yeah, we have to go get all the opium in Afghanistan. Now, a
lot of Americans, myself included, thought that there really was this
thing called terrorism and they were trying to kill us. And so as
that spell falls apart, you're like, Oh, my God, it's because the
Taliban would sell their opium like, That's seriously what that
was about. And most Americans wouldn't sign on to that and
that's why they do these spells because like, the best warriors in
America would not go kill people for opium. I mean, that's, it's
like crazy. That's how you get your real low grade. Done.
Bad soldiers. Yeah, yeah. Let me close with this. And I thank you
for your time. And it's been a nice discussion.
I want to close with a question we talked about a lot of things that
we find in common. And you were talked about a lot of things that
you found interesting and admirable in Islam. Now, let me
ask the opposite now, in the conservative world that you're in,
in Idaho with the people that you're around,
I want to sort of know, like, where what is their biggest thorn,
in their view from Islam? Like, what is it about it that they
don't find they find that they could never survive with this? I
think it has to do with mass migration. I don't think it has to
do with Islam at all. I think it has to do with what people
perceive it's tied to where it's like they perceive that Islam
means everybody around you is going to be from Senegal.
And that you're not going to be able to culturally survive, you
know, and so, that's one of the biggest mind thorns when it comes
to Islam because most people have not, you know, because it's all
about rhetoric. So it's like the Mexican invasion from the south
are never called Christians. Yeah, they're always called Mexicans,
you know, but yet when they come when, when you have like Middle
Easterners are called Muslims. And so I always can spot that I can
spot tricks. Yeah. Because I know several, like super white,
Caucasian Muslims. Like it's not a race, you know. And so that's
probably one of the biggest things is people feel threatened that
they will be overpopulate you know, that they in the irony is I
told people I'm like, if you followed Islam, you would actually
get a bigger population, like That's the funniest irony ever,
is, if a white family was Islamic, they would have way more white
kids.
The reason they're replacing you is because they have a bunch of
kids, because they're not like raging gay guys.
And marriage for us, mainly marriage happens. I can't maybe
speak for everybody, but in the main marriage tends to happen
locally. If you have a strong local population, I would say
seven out of 10 women will marry a local guy, right? If you have a
big Muslim population, like why would you marry someone from
another state? Like, why would you matter? Like, what what would that
how would that happen? It would only happen if your population is
not that big. But once you hit a certain number, the vast majority
of community members will marry from within a generous range of
miles because that's who the family knows. We already know
their family. why would why why would I bring a stranger in our in
our house when we have these people right here? Right? So it's
a very locally driven popular religion is you end up living a
very strong local life. And that's where the power is. That's why you
got her are gaining power, which is good. Because I'm just all
about fair. Like I'm just, I don't I don't have a dog in a fight and
lasses, just whatever that's why we like to say the good, the true
the beautiful, it's like, whatever is whatever is fair and good and
true. That's good. And that's why I was joking with somebody
recently about race. I'm like that's why it's called a race
compete
that's why I love when a Muhammad Ali was like, I love Muhammad Ali
when he was like blueberry like blue birds. Like I like my black
woman. I don't want no Chinese woman. And this like in this like,
kind of broken. cuckolded British guy was like our I find that to be
full of despair. Because I don't want a woman like you. I want a
woman that understands me. And I'm like, Yeah, that's That's it. Like
why is like That's the funniest thing is I'm I am slightly racist,
but I'm not a white supremacist. Like I don't think whites are
better than people. I just liked that Japan exists. And yeah,
Afghanistan exists and like that the French like, what they like, I
like that. I like that people have their own thing. And then the
world is more beautiful place and, and so that's, I think that that's
the main thing against Islam in America is its association with
feeling like you're being replaced. Yeah. And the irony is
that if more people lived, like Muslims, they would have bigger
families and they wouldn't be getting because the thing is, is
America does like there is a lack of labor because people used to
have five kids and now they have one kid and so who's gonna pick
the berries, you know? And so then you have to bring in people that
are willing to live simply and have a lot of kids and those
people will inherit your wealth like that's, that's a fact. It's
already happened. It's just like only a matter of time. And then
once you get the wealth, your real struggle happens like can you keep
the FE like, can you not become your own?
Got in your head and up conquered by the next people that can do it.
Yeah, it's them. It promotes this indigenous, it promotes a
localized and indigenous culture wherever it goes. That's awesome.
And it doesn't require you to break out of that, right? So
that's why there are three guys out there three friends of mine,
who you may come across, right? And if you ever interested to talk
to them, we can arrange for one of them is in Oklahoma. And his his
channel is called the revival of men. All right. He's an he's a
Norwegian, and he broke away from his family. When they converted he
they cut him off, but he's a Norwegian American. So the revival
of men is the name of his channel now, right?
Then there's another one who surprised a lot of people because
he called his channel the Muslim cowboy. And he wears a cowboy hat,
and he's got a big beard. And he just like, like a regular southern
guy. He's from Texas. He's from a well off family in Texas. And when
he goes back to his community, he's exactly so very similar what
you said. They think that he's been foreign iced. Like he's
adopted a foreign culture, where he has adopted some he's a
religion and some of the culture but his the point of that he calls
it the Muslim cowboy is to show everybody, I'm actually the
continuation of the original Texan culture. I'm going to continue it
to show just to prove the point that Islam isn't erasing these
things. So we call this channel the Muslim cowboy. And it's
interesting what he has, and he's always arguing heavily with the
Protestant guys. But
but that's the exact reason is he's trying to prove that he's
that's not erasing that the other guy is robbed of four cameras.
What is his organization's called, but he's the opposite. He's
Canadian. He's way up north. And he's also bringing this thing
where I'm a Muslim, but I'm not no longer here. I'm not erasing my
Canadian Heritage here. Right. And he says, he we talked a lot about
what of what if we had a nation that were like, we could have a
conference or meeting, we can have a conference of Latino Muslims, no
one have a problem, right? Let's all we're all Latino converts
known, whatever problem. If we came, we say we have a black Imams
forum, imams who are African American to discuss our issues. So
he then asked me, he knows, he knows there's going to be a
problem. He said, What if I said a white convert conference? Right? I
said, What would be wrong with that? Right?
What would be wrong with that? Because you have your own issues,
right? That relates to your culture. The wrongness is the
imagination of superiority, right? And he's like, excluding people
making people feel left out. That's what the wrong is. Right?
So it was an interesting conversation. Do you have anything
else that you'd like to bring to the table? I can talk about this
all day, because it's so it's so interesting to me, because it's
like,
I gotta go soon, though, obviously. But that point you just
made like about how isn't one of the guarantees of Islam, like your
culture, like your your family lineage? As long as you don't
think you're better than other people? Yeah. Yes.
The Prophet said he loves his tribe, or he loved his lineage.
Yeah, exactly. Like, like, it's so it's so ironic, because so many
Christian nationalists are like afraid to even talk that way, but
they want it and blah, blah. I'm like, dude, Islam literally
guarantees that like you have a right to your people. You just
can't say that your blood means you can kill other blood, which
I'm all about, like, I don't want that. So it's super interesting
when people call it a foreign religion. I mean, so it's
Christianity. Technically, the, you know, the American religion
would be Mormonism, or Scientology or something like that. Like,
those are actually made in America. It's for NASA.
But anyway, bad. Thanks for having me. No, thank you. Great chat.
Anytime you want to come on and talk about Islam, we can we can
talk and if you want to ever meet some of these other guys that are
in your neck of the woods, between you know, in the central area in
the more open lands of America, I can connect you with those guys.
So thanks for coming on. And, you know, look forward to maybe
talking again in the future. Absolutely, man. Alright, peace.
Thanks. Take care.
All right, everyone. There you have it.
How do you guys think it went? Good, brought up? Yeah, the guy
is, he's got a lot of good things to say. That's why I said I'd
listen. I don't want this just to be
you know, totally just
agreeing, which is good to agree. Right. But I want to genuinely
want to know what is it that they would have against Islam? Right.
And one thing I didn't mention that I think that a lot of guys
who are living the way he does, I want to be live in nature. I want
Want to have,
you know, guidance in my life, I want my family to be together.
They have that we have something in Assam that those fathers would
really like it. I didn't want to go too long. But I wanted to say,
Listen, when you guys are living like this, and your daughter says,
Hey, I'm leaving, right? I love this family. But I also love
Hollywood, going to Hollywood. Right? What do you guys say? We
have rules for this. We have motum rules, we have marriage rules, we
have something called Edward Lee. Right?
That does not, that's not going to happen. It's just not gonna happen
that I you raised you for 30 years, for 20 years.
20 years I raised you 25 years you lived in this home, we protected
you and raised you, you don't just get to turn that switch off and
said, Goodbye, I love you, as I'll write you, I'll text you. I'm
going to Hollywood to pursue my dreams of going to New York to
pursue my dreams or whatever. We don't have that. And people think
that that's something that it scares off like liberals it scares
off.
Maybe like a feminist leaning to people. But
those are the rules, we have rules on how men can travel and rules of
how women can travel, how men can live and how women can live
because Allah said they're different. So they can't be
treated to say they're not gonna have the same treatment one has
the potential to be abused. And one has the potential, right to be
used and to be misled. And is, is physically weaker, and the other
has responsibilities. So where he's weak, we say get strong.
Whereas if a woman has a weakness, we say, Stay as you are, you're
not obligated to change your nature. Right? Whereas for a man
who's you have to change your nature, you can't be a 25 year old
and just living without any sense of responsibility, without any
sense of growing up and working. Alright, so and even the men in
the book, right, so parents, if a youth, a young men can earn in his
town and his parents say I want you to live next to us.
His mom and dad say to him, live next to us, because we're old now
we want you to we want you around, we need you around, he's obligated
to observe that he has to search for a job locally. First. I'm
telling you, this team, it's stable. It doesn't allow for this
insanity. But the same stability is a protection, right from making
mistakes.
If the parent lets him travel, then he can travel. If he can't
find a job locally, then he can also disobey them and travel. See
a lot of people talk about the obedience of parents. Last week I
gave the lecture on when it is allowed to disobey not allowed.
When is it allowed? And when is it obligatory to disobey your
parents? Because they're two different things. There's a time
it's allowed to disobey your parents and the time is when you
have to disobey your parents. Now they're like, wait, wait, tell us
about what's wajib. Okay, when is it obligatory when your parents is
infringing upon your rights, the rights of others that you owe
rights to? or the right of Allah subhanaw taala Cydia? Well guess
what they want to do now?
Study the city. Right? They want to know what their rights are.
Right? So our Sharia, it's fair for everybody, that parents have a
lot of rights. Children have some rights. And they're both given by
Allah to Allah, there's no oppression here. So if you want to
preserve a local community, that's what I suppose conservatives is
supposed to be right?
You, you, we can teach you how to preserve it. Not we're not we can
teach you only Islam can preserve it. Because it needs the buy in
from the hearts of everybody. And only Allah can guide those hearts.
And it needs a crisp, clear cut law, what can I do? What can I do,
then what's different upon we can discuss that, right? So
Hamdulillah I hope that
you know, the talk was beneficial. And he seemed to be someone who
was very close to nature. And
you know, you never know what's up. I think the best the best
interaction with such people is to have many, over the years, over
the decades, they'll see the difference. They'll run into
things that I believe that you know, that they're the Christian
world, or the Christian life, or this the general belief,
conservative and believing life, this has holes in it. Like there's
nothing that actually gives you security that you with your kids,
you have to work for it for us. We'd say we don't have to really
work that hard. We just have to be good enough. Nice enough and put
them in the position to receive the seat of Amen. Than the taco
we'll do the rest. Right.
All right, let's take the q&a here. Real quick. Before we wrap
up, clearly we're not going to be able to get to what we wanted to
do. Okay, which was
the shoot up but we'll do it Monday. There's no harm in doing
it Monday. Don't have to be done just on the ninth or the 10th.
Some comments here
Rob's channel is called a slam for Europeans. And he doesn't mean by
that Europeans continentally he means by that European American,
European, I guess, Canadians whites basically because, yeah,
because
that's what they are. And there was a speaker there. His name was
Abdul Malik. You remember I was a medic, the fundraiser. I don't
know if you guys know him, he's to fundraise for Suraj Rojas. He's he
so he says African Americans and European Americans. He said I was
talking to a European American the other day and I thought like a
Norwegian immigrant or like a Swedish immigrant. I didn't know
what he was talking he said all these European Americans like I
said, Hold on brother. Where do you see these Europeans? I never
seen European immigrant right? What was the last time you saw a
Belgian walking around right? Or a Swede walking around? He's like
no, no, no, but I mean whites they originated in Europe. I was like
oh, that's another word so
so he's he uses that term.
Alright couple q&a And then we wrap up for the day we got a
hectic and a busy Thursday today which involves meetings meetings,
meetings and office hours then class at seven o'clock
then mug break fast for those fasting
with a light break a fast if some samosas and then we got the of God
or night of remembrance of the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa
sallam here's the question learning edifices May a woman move
out to live alone without a motto. They want to experience
independent living not far from home for a few months.
Nobody should have technically it's not allowed.
I'm giving you the rule. Maybe there are exceptions here and
there. You have to see if you're an exception, but that's the rule.
Don't permissible for weddings only Yes, that's a medically
position. The other methods No, they open it up the duff permitted
all the time. Okay, and the Shafia even have discussion about the
wind instruments
and the other mazahub DPS from the duff to all precautionary
instruments.
Is it permissible permissible to work assisting in medical
autopsies? Yes, it is. What is the reward of Oshana fasting the
removal of since for a year got
any other caught or da to do tomorrow?
Jimmy father Roger Quran what
spending on your family yet Miss specific ideas on that
can you so some vicar gathering sometimes from your mosque weekend
inshallah show some clips of that? What's the difference in meaning
between suddenly and Berek? Berek has always test to do with
increase, increasing something increasing.
Something that you already have to bless it.
Salah has the meaning that is greater than that. So there's
Baraka, there's Rama, mercy, that means something bad will come
soften or eliminated. There's all of these
gifts that Allah gives a Salah is the combination of all of them,
that's why it is the highest of all things. Okay, and that's why,
for example,
in Hydra last Kalani, he says if Salah means Baraka, then it's
redundant. If salam means Rama, then it's redundant, right? So
Salah and Rama and Baraka must and Salem must all have different
meanings. Salam is known, avoid harm in the first place. Rama is
known hardship comes soften it. Baraka is known have rare increase
it Karim is known give you the hair in the first place. Salah he
said is the combination of all these things and that's why it is
the greatest of all things why the prophets I seldom is told in the
Quran, suddenly I lay him
means make dua for everything good for them. So as Salah is from
Allah to His Messenger, sallAllahu, his and all the Hyatts
okay.
And when we make a lot on the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa
sallam, we are pulling down from those clay dots for us. And the
salam to the prophet is the personal greeting.
It's personal as your personal greeting. And that's the meaning
of a Salah was salam.
And Salam also means avoidance of harm in the first place. Okay, so
those are some of the different meanings.
Is it better to fast both days?
Before and after? No, just one of the two days.
But if you were to do both, it doesn't harm you.
Okay.
What if a woman is divorced, still impermissible to live alone? It's
not not it's when she lives with her Willie, and leaves without a
reason. Right? And of course life. We have these rules.
Those are the rules. There can be exceptions to the rule, there can
be a time where she can't live with her Willy anymore. Firstly,
the willie may be so old cannot protect her, for example, maybe
cannot even provide for her. Maybe she's the provider for the Willie.
No, it's always the city as desired to have the woman with her
mahtim. But sometimes she can't. There are we're not unaware of
that there are unique situations, right? But we don't change the
rule to bend to unique situations. This is the rule, you may have a
different situation, right.
And you may be sinful in what you're doing to just because we're
friendly and nice with people doesn't mean don't admit to you're
also sinful, right? Happens all the time with my friends. Right?
So I first came, he said, but you can say Bismillah and eat
McDonald's. And all these places. I said, No, it has to be
slaughtered. Right? People have the book. Yes. If the person of
the book slaughters, if I go to the Amish, and the guys right
there wearing a cross. He's the People of the Book, and he
slaughters the cow. Good. That's where I'll say Bismillah on it and
eat it because you slaughtered it. Okay.
So he said, So you're basically saying that I'm doing something
haram said, Yeah. You think I befriended you because you're a
saint or you're a prophet. I befriended you because you have
more good qualities and bad, but you also have bad qualities. This
is how I'm what you're doing. Right. So
it's okay to say to someone that what you're doing is haram and
we're still friends. You're not publicly promoting the haram.
Right? You're making a mistake. Right? Innocently making a
mistake, maybe out of ignorance. Now, maybe you're stuck in some
situations. So I don't also it's not reasonable to say okay, now
that we know the ruling, tomorrow, we got to change. Very few people
have that strength. Right, very few people. Alright, some people
live with a little bit of cognitive dissonance. I know I'm
not supposed to be doing it. But they don't have yet to go. The him
to change it. Or they're not totally convinced by you either
because they're heard it from one person. And they hear from 10
other people. No, you're fine. So they don't, it's not firmly
established. All that you come to realize is the case when you're
trying to promote and preach a law book. This is the law. There's no
discussion. Yet at the same time you live with people have
different levels of certainty, different levels of him different
levels of Taqwa. And we're also trying to get along. Right?
There's not such a massive Muslim community. And it's not the way of
Dawa and the way of the Habib that you only live with the people
living 100% by the law, then you're not gonna have any friends,
right? We live with everyone who has a goodwill towards this lamp
towards the Muslim comes to the massage and trying to do their
best. And there's a range so you may be in that range. I don't know
asylum, but I'm telling you what the law is. That's what we should
aspire to. Okay. Okay, hustle and bustle is said, if every person
only teaches what they practice,
nobody would teach anything. Because even if we were to be
judged by the law book, you're going to find many misdemeanors,
many mistakes.
Okay.
Now, this brother is talking about this shirt. You know what this
shirt was? It's a weird, there's a weird American Pacific Coast's
thing where guys, they were. It's like a thorough job. But it's so
skinny. And it's cut all the way to the top. Right. So it's a weird
garment. But the beach guys wear it. I don't know why they were but
they were right. So I saw the top and I bought it.
But then when the whole thing came, it's a very weird garment.
Yeah, so then what am I going to do with this? It's like a long all
the way down to the ground. But the sides are slit all the way up
to like, as Archimedes said, what I'm gonna do with this thing, I
just left it there for weeks. Then I thought Hold on a second. Want
to just cut it. I just cut it across. And I'll have someone so
the edges later, but that's how mostly we need shutter a shirts.
It's like a long, this is like a Long Tunic. Skinny tunic, right?
Weird. You can't wear it as a job.
So just cut it across. So we need shutter a closed, right? All the
clothes. I've been complaining. The shirts. They're all like skin
tight. Okay, I'm not even gonna lie to you and say I'm not going
to wear a skin tight shirt because it's form revealing our form. Not
many people have that much muscles that they're going to be a fitness
anybody, right? But you have another set in your body that you
don't want people to see. That looks terrible, right? People they
have stomachs, right? They look terrible in these clothes. Right?
It's skin tight and he's got a stomach, right. I once saw a guy
who
He's making fun of himself as a man I need to lose weight. And his
daughter tried to be nice to him. She said but you're not fat. You
just look pregnant.
His daughter, but some guys they use you guys a guy should not be
wearing tight clothes. You
I could see if you are fit. Why you're tempted to wear tight
clothes because you work so much. You want to show a little bit of
it right?
But you're not that you are someone who is unfit. Okay, and
yet still are wearing these tight clothes. So we need like more
shutter a close, so I now buy anything that is wide. And if it's
like a kameez, then I cut it. Right? If it's like way down to
the way long I cut it, I cut it a mid length. That's neither, like
short. Nor is it too long. Right and you could wear it however you
want to wear it. She was like we have 11 sisters starting up like
these clothing companies. Yeah, like you know, hello clothing,
whatever. But then it's like the prices are insane. Yeah, retail is
a miserable business that h&m Yeah, I just go to any old store
and I'll cut the clothes. Same thing with the with the pants. I'm
not wearing cut up bottoms to be cool. I just cut the pants right?
Because you know that everyone's wearing ripped clothes these days.
Right? I just cut them
and if it get to somebody who knows how to sew I'll get to
somebody but in the meantime I'm just wearing it as is but the
other thing with the Desi soaps right so I went and I saw a friend
man a perfect sarcomeres I saw this perfect for male guy and I'll
cut it but let me tell you what the like. I want to tell the world
does everything have to have some flowers here. Can we go
minimalist? I'll save you the effort right? Charge me the same
price but can do we have to have 1000 designs right on the thing
can we just get a plain shirt? And that would be my garment like
Junaid Jamshed yeah Junaid no flowers. Oh good. So we have a
Junaid Jamshed there. That's what I need. I need to go get a whole
bunch of those those shirts, okay? And I don't care about the size
now. Right The bigger the better because I'm going to cut
and none of these little things. Well that's we in the West we
don't wear that in the East. They love that.
Right?
All right, ladies and gentlemen, we have to stop here. Just Docomo
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