Munir Ahmed – Session 40 Hadith Chain Analysis
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And after saying salaam we asked Allah smart Allah to accept from us to block out our things and forgive us have mercy upon us. We ask Allah to
inc increases in beneficial knowledge and wide sustenance and
to Allah is our return. He is our goal. On him we are actually dependent and there is no power of mind except that of Allah. Glory be to Him.
I pray to Allah you're all well, brothers and sisters, those of you guys to join us today.
In these difficult times, may Allah subhanaw taala bring the ease with the difficulty
unless it is all wise, All Merciful All Knowing he knows everything, including the very inner secrets of our hearts does he know brothers and sisters, so it turned only to him for his help and patience from him suffer from him to increases in demand
till the day that we depart this world
now, we're on the shores of Hadith number 12. For those of you remember who have been regularly in the classes
from a Norway's alibi ain, female Daniel Islam
kawaii the last term as he called his work, the 40 Hadith by the Hadith to do with the principles of Islam, the basic principles of Islam and to do with the very foundations of legal rulings. That's what he called his work to remind ourselves.
And
as I've mentioned before,
my Mom No way
676 Hijri calendar, he passed away, Rahim Allah.
So in the seventh century, this work is from then the idea of 40 Hadith of a collection of 14 As I mentioned, right at the beginning, when we started this course, is very popular in Islamic history.
And many works have been done on the basis of this idea. 14. And when 14 is mentioned, first, just remind yourself, it means approximately 40 and therefore you find another way, isn't that exactly for God? He's got 42 So when they mentioned 14, yeah, they, they brought together sometimes 40 Plus, sometimes a little less than 14, but they called it 40. Still, because approximately, it's working. Now the idea and as some researchers found, but if you go through history, then about over over 500 works have been done with the title of 40 some good 40 based on Hadith, like I know, some in other words, the best on the contents and textbook there is some good 40 to do with doing analysis of the
isnaad the chains of the ahaadeeth Some did 40 on a P that some did 40 on jihad, some did 40 In forgot in virtues of this and worst use of that.
So all kinds of 14 digit aside from those who then came and did an exposition of the ones who did 40
And one of those expeditions is for shot is by Roger as we've been one of the ones that I reference, a compendium which did
Ibn Rajab humbly Mel, who is Shafi Of course, you can read it by somebody who came
approximately 100 plus years after then no way, and it's sharp, and he called it
a jungle or loom while Hichem fie hum seen a hadith and minjiang al Kalam
basically a compendium of knowledge and wisdom from 50 Hadith from the one who had brevity in speech from Rasulullah sallallahu Sallam he means and he took the 42 of another way and added eight to it to make the 50. So his his work based on the 14th but he has made it into 50 Hadith, which is a massive compendium of work. Of course, similar was done by other scholars, perhaps the first to do it was let's be loose have not been referring to who was a Maliki scholar, just 20 or 30 years on from Norway did shelf and Norway as you know, the the sharp exposition, which is very brief, as we'll see with this hadith, and then, of course, many others, but some of the others have referred
to is Zaragoza is present day in English, which is a compendium of free books, and one by
a trophy trophy was only 716
hazera that he passed away, so only 2030 years again,
after a no way he did a sharp which is very beneficial and useful as well.
And
another famous ways that we've been
shut out of a tooth is a tie in the distinguished one in exposition of the 14 days. And fertile mobian is
a distinct exposition or clear exposition of the 14 days which was done by even 100 Other hate to me.
Now it was done about 300 years or so after Imam nawawi did his collection on June 14 Hadith, it's a necessary reminder of where what we're actually doing. Of course, to remind ourselves I don't rely on just those exhibitions. In the end we critique those as well and I had my understanding and that we are better we benefit enormously from that as well. And understanding and relevance to our lives and the application of Hadith in our lives what it actually means for us in our in our language and in our culture and time
this hadith Hadith number 12 If you got the copy of
Imam no ways in which you should have in front of you, I advise that and if you haven't got a try and please get it because we all need at least number 12 There's a long way to go yet so I urge you to get that. Then you know what I'm actually talking about and you have the text in front of you what we're contemplating. Here. I'll have you for Fannia Asha 12th belief among novices and Abby Hooray data reveal our annual on power assume lifestyle Allahu alayhi wa sallam met in the first name Islamiat Kumar La Jolla and he
had Ethan Hassan aroa Who telemovie well, how you who Hakka? So he says from Abu Hurayrah not Allah Allah and who said that the messenger of allah sallallahu sallam said, part of the
part of the goodness of Islam of a person. Yeah, is leaving alone is his or her leaving alone that which does not concern him or her. That's the meaning of the text of the matter. And then he says, and now he says it is a Hassan Hadith.
And he said it's transmitted by Timothy and others like this.
Okay, so that's what he's written. Of course, each wreath we've taken, we go back to where he's saying it is from, and he's saying this intermediary, so we go to the movie, and what do we find?
That really actually
is different to the movie.
Which for the movie mentioned, with the chain,
the Masons it with the chain and then
says
call harder Hadith Overeem la vie for whom in Hadith Abby sama and Abby Hooray data and in the BSL Allahu Allah yourself in La Mina has a wedge is this hadith he says, with this chain is very, very blunt admit they use red means this is the only chain. This is the only chain, which comes in this way from Abu Hurayrah to the Prophet salaallah Salam. So that's why it means that I have read, I'll come to at least in a short while in sha Allah. He says we don't know this Hadith from Abu selama to from Abu Hurayrah Abu Salam saying from Abu Hurayrah except from this chair to the Prophet sites and except from this chain that's all he says. When he says very beautifully with this kind of comment
it means Tirmidhi thinks this is life. This hadith is life week.
What further corroborates that is that Tirmidhi mentions the same Hadith with the same words in the mud and in the text with another change in this one he says that no payback her Desna family kidney others
and his ovary
we know molecule in the * so if Malik is in the analysis reporting it then we're going to find this hadith where else
whichever committees
you're with me anybody with any answer
come on you know this
somebody's asking can you put a link to this hadith well I can't do that I'm not a technology the person if somebody's got it and they want to share the link of Hadith number 12 in other ways or buy in for those who have joined us so if he's saying in the chain is reported to us from kotoba family saying that in other words katiba is one of his teachers yeah and and who said who said all had death now Malik gave the LS who says that? It was reported from mannequin Ellis who's valid given the ls
command? Was it time for you like to sleep or for me to talk
to anybody
who's malignant others?
Nobody.
Surprise my family.
Imam Malik is Malik in Dallas. Imam Malik, who died in 179 Hijra
and the founder of the Maliki method.
Yes, and his Hadith book is almost Ah, yes.
What? So we're going to find this a bit in mallex and walk up with this chain. Yeah. And zaharie And Ali Abdullah Hussein, from Imam Zoetry, who died in 124 Hijiri reports many a Hadith from Ali ibn Hussain. I'll come back to that in a moment to Ali Baba Hussein is all he says. All other Sunova is sallallahu alayhi wa salam. The messenger of allah sallallahu sallam said in Nam in hostile mean Hosni Islam is not the only extrovert here is in this is Hadith interpreting as well. Surely from the goodness of Islam, the person character whom Allah yakni Same words,
Allah isa this is kind of merely speaking, saying himself. We're Herc and there are wild people walking with us hobbyzone And is already an ally have never seen a ninja be ESL Allah so Allah naffaa Hadith Maliki Malik in more salad. They say this is how it's reported by many people reporting from Imam Zoetry from Ali Imran Hussain from the Prophet sallallahu Sallam as similarly reported by Malik Yeah, Malik Amin is more sullen is Hadith morsel
wahala internal Assa home in Hadith, the saying this is with us Imam Tirmidhi saying is more authentic.
Yes. Then the one Hadith which mentioned that is from Abu selama and Abu Hurayrah. The other one which is Mason by No way.
Remember a sentence
ported by Abu Huraira from the Prophet saw some so telomere is telling us here that this one he's mentioning here, which is morsel.
Yeah. Is even is the most authentic he has. Yeah More centric than the other one he mentioned which Allah was taken. Yeah. In other words, it indicates the other one's weak. Even by this statement, why how to explain further and he says why Ali, even Hussein Lam youth Rick Ali Ma Ma polyp. Holly even Hussein did not meet Ali in the army Taalib
In other words, look at the chain is saying Ali Hussein said the Messenger of Allah said So he's saying terminally ill even Hussein didn't even meet Ali Raphaela how undermine the prophets. Allah salah.
Okay,
what does that mean?
It's weak.
Yet, it means that the break I'll leave the same can't say color assuming my son Allahu alayhi salam Kenny.
No, no.
You can't.
Yeah, so that's why familly said it's morsel. And this is the best chain available he said, Okay.
That's just to go see this is the benefit of not just taking one note was written here. There's no chain here. Now he's given his opinion. He said his husband couldn't believe you look at it. Community's opinion is that at best is morsel and I'll explain Walsall in a minute in a short while and the one that took the know is mentioned here from Abu Hurayrah to the perfect size hello is definitely weak in the opinion of Mr. Tirmidhi from where he gets it from, from where he gets it from. Okay, so however
now we of course when he does the exposition of this just mentioned a few lines he doesn't go into the this detail I'm going into in the Aluma Hadith and in saying because he's already said in his comment, he says is as somebody's Yeah, in other words, it's acceptable. So good. I believe you can take it as evidence. Yeah, no, sorry, has some less than side. So you can't take it for any new rulings and things which are not corroborated in the Quran and Sangiovese
Imam bofi Again,
who came 20 or 30 years after a month nowhere in a shot at thi Hien doesn't go into the into the loo hadith of saying whether it's authentic, not authentic, how weak it is. Even Roger does. Even Roger humbly in his GRBL lwml HECM he does go into it, as does Imam zarabozo.
The one from the present day which is available in English, he goes into some detail. So what's the summary of it if we look at it?
Reality is as evil and Imam Zaragoza says the same number we say it's hassen good and acceptable that's why it's called included but as imam in the region and as our Bozo says majority of the Allama of Hadith from the critics of Hadith not those who just know Hadith off by heart they said this hadith is not authentic is not authentic from the chain of Abu Hooray that missing aware from the Prophet saw some.
I'll come back to why in a minute. The best of it is is the one that Timothy mentioned and Imam Malik Messner Mata from Ali from zody Ali Baba Hussain Marcel Hadith morsel that's the best of it. Yeah.
That's what they say. That is the opinion of achmad in the humble.
That's not even the humble who was a great critic of Hadith who died in 241 Hijiri. Yeah, he I've named mine who is who is around the same time as admitted to humble and also a great critique in Hadith, and opinion of Imam Bukhari, Hari adanac Neil came sometime afterwards as well. Yeah. They also this hadith is not only not authentic, it is weak and the weakness cannot be spent and by all the weak Hadith, okay.
So,
this further, as Imam Zaragoza pointed out and my teacher Abdullah has the same opinion
and interestingly enough
observables will gently follows the opinion of Imam shall Barney in saying whether hadith is authentic or not disagrees with him this time which was a breath of fresh air actually. And he followed great big critics in the from the past and sided with them as well. Imams shall Barney actually went beyond saying his hustle which no we said. I said it's Sahai authentic. It is not authentic I think with the greatest love or respect to shareholder Barney, but it's because other not myself, my teacher shift the use of God but
Imam athma is of the same opinion yeah to deliver in and share Mr. Buhari and the savvy I will have Mr. Rossi is a great critics of the day for wall said this hadith is Mancha, Mancha, it is Week, Week.
The Hadith.
We're talking about a hadith, the Imam number we mentioned here with Abu Huraira because in the chain of that belief is somebody called
Quran Quran. Abdur Rahman.
And they say Allah says he's one cuddle Hadith, he brings Mancha, Hadith,
and brings mistakes in the Hadith Moncure Oh, he's weak, not not strong cannot be relied upon. And others like Imam Al Hosei. And other said that he made a mistake in the chain when he created this ideal cola made the mistake because he's not very strong in Hadith. So he made a wrong chain where he added where he put
Imams zaharie, from Abu Huraira. Yeah, that's where the mistake there is not up to the Prophet SAW Salem.
This is a mistake. Mistake. The best this hadith is is the chain which is more so the second chain that Tirmidhi mentioned, which is also weak. So reality, the best opinion in this hadith is is actually not Husson not good. Not reliable and not savvy. It is weak. And the best of it is more so. So what is more so
what is more, so
I'm going to mention a little bit about alumina Hadith as I mentioned in other Hadith as well, this is another aspect of Aluma Hadith, and perhaps inshallah you will benefit from it. And it will also clarify what briefly what Hassan is and what morsel is now.
Her son has Sahai terms and both terms in general without going to details. sahih hadith is that in which four conditions are met,
it is has a chain which is connected, there's no break in the chain. One track transmitter transmitting from the other one. Yeah. And it's corroborated that they took it from the other transmitter right back to the Prophet salaallah Salam. Yeah. Second, a data, that they are trustworthy, they're not liars, and cheats, etc, etc. Yeah. Third, that there are other good memory not, they are correct. They're not making mistakes like Cora did. He's not known to be good, not because he wasn't trustworthy, not because he makes mistakes and brings because of his mistakes. He brings false chains like the ones which mentions Abu Hurayrah with his mistake. So the critics of
the teeth, were able to find that out and pointing that out. That was the third
criterion, fourth criteria, that it doesn't have any hidden
problem with it. And that is found by bringing lots of, say, Hadith chains together. And you find that in them, those who are generally accepted as good transmitters, have they made a mistake. That's called an ill. So
those are the four requirements for it to be called Sahai has some hadith is less than that. And therefore we don't rely on Hassan Hadith for any major issues, but more of a supportive nature. That okay, why because in the chain is a transmitter who is has somebody who there that then memory is not at the level of strong. Yeah, they make mistakes here and there. And therefore it needs checking when they say things more checking, double checking and triple checking. Yeah, to make sure
hasn't, that's briefly, I don't know if I can talk about this already for the next hour, but we haven't got time for that. This does give you an overview
If we can ease, some people use weaker beef to cover all kinds of beef including fabricated. Yeah. So fabrication is even obviously worse than weak. Yeah, it has no basis. It's a pure fabrication, but chairs fabricated and the text of matter is fabricated as well.
So naive covers all kinds of problems and those four things that I mentioned. Yeah, which all need to be a condition which need to be fulfilled. When any of those conditions are not fulfilled, it becomes a rejected life.
All right. So that's one aspect. And these are also in one way classified. So the various ways of classifying one way which I'm going to cover today, they're classified depending on where the chain of narrators reaches.
If the chain of narrators reaches the prophets, Allah Salam, it says at the end of the chain, call out a pseudonym, Hi, Sam Allahu alayhi wa sallam, okay?
Like this one said, if you look at it, it says, with the chain like Tirmidhi mentions, and then says, Have you heard iData all of a sudden, leisler salam now it looks apparently to be going back to their prophets, Allah Islam. So we call such a beef metaphor. Metaphor means raised to the Prophet salallahu Salam, it goes as far back as a Prophet sallahu wa salam so far Hadith three Hadith, the promises obviously has to go back to the prophesy Salam, he doesn't read that far back, but he's not a little above the salah solo. So that's called metaphor or the sail connected yet, with the chain we're still talking about. Now. You can have mouthful, which apparently, like
disappears appears to be connected or prophesized. But when you actually dig deeper, you'll find that actually it was a mistake by Cora, as I mentioned before, who made the connection by mistake, actually, isn't a hadith which goes back to the Prophet sideslip. so as to be discovered, yeah. So then it becomes no longer marfo or although it appears as the zoic smartphone connected to a profit site. So if the chain goes back to a Sahabi, only, for example, we went back to Abu Bakr, Abu Hurayrah, and it says all and then it makes the statement without missing the profit size limb that is called mo golf. Mo golf means it only reaches as a hobby or D smoke. Oof, yeah.
Gonna Hadith which people think are authentic, but when it's dug deeper by the critics of the DEA, they discovered actually goes back to the statement of a Sahabi. So we say it is more Cuf to Sahabi son. So yeah, it is not a hadith number, we have the Prophet sallallaahu Salam, there's more detail with that as well, but I haven't got time to go into that.
Now,
if it reaches a tab E, only under tab E makes a statement. Yeah, which some people think is a Hadith, there's no mention of Sahabi no mention of talara sort of lie Salah Salam that is called MK door cut off MK door in this case, means actually it is an asset of a tabby II as a means it's them saying something from themselves or they're missing something in words, or in what they what they've seen, etc. So that's called MK door.
And therefore it will not be authentic hadith to the Prophet salallahu, salam,
Hadith which are merfolk to the prophets, Allah Salam, depending on how many narrators are in the chain at one generation and usually it goes by the Sahaba because after that, more and more learn from Sahaba like I will read I had so many students so so many will be transmitting from him in their works, etc. But so so the usual key link here, the the link that decides how strong the Hadith and the number of narrators in it are going back to the Sahaba that tends to be where the least number always is not further down the chain. Number of people always increases generally as you go down the chain.
So if we have Hadith we have two big divisions in Hadith called moto Swati
al mutawa tip and Ahad Hadith, Al Ahad had come from one, actually, but that's not the meaning of it here. First, let's deal
with the word tip, the best meaning of it and various definitions were given by various Mohabbatein over the centuries
but the best definition
From the leading critics of Hadith and the best definers of hadith is a Hadith which has been corroborated by a group at every level of the chain.
Starting from the Sahaba going down the chain by a large group of people, yeah, generally they don't mention numbers, but some mentioned numbers, some said five, some say 10. Some fact 20. So much variation, but really the best definition would have given a large enough group of people can be relied upon and trusted. Yet knowing that this group of people could not have colluded together to formulate a lie, or, or may all of them made a mistake.
Yeah.
So when you have a hadith that's coming by these kinds of number of moderators, and you'll look at the names that could have got together to collude to make a lie against the province, Ozlem, these people are neither worthy of the level of poor memory and present but they made all of a major mistake. So when a group like that narrate Hadith, yet, so it has many chains, yeah. Which then this hadith is known as a motor worker, meaning it is corroborated by many chains over and over. You can have Hadith which appeared on first glance, as though it was most evocative, for example.
There'll be many examples. I mean, some people for example, you can even have fabricated Hadith. So you can come across so many different chains going back to so many different Sahaba but any critical of youth will look and say this is false, this chain that's false chain, that's a false chain. Somebody's made all these chains up yeah, this is a total lie. So what appears to be water water is actually a fabricated
so that'll be excluded. So matawa tip Hadith means that which has been authenticated Yeah. Through all its chains, etc. And it is on that level. So it is of high level of corroboration. Yeah, so highly reliable. Yeah. Straight off the Quran which is mutawatir in its transmission, then come these motor water Hadith. Yeah, there's motor lateral majority of water, water are highly corroborated reason they are not the majority, but majority of those data wanted they are most Awatere. Not beloved, but but with, with Magna. So you can have single ahaadeeth and single chains, but lots of Hadith mentioning the same kind of thing in the texts on the prophesy, Salam. And
therefore, they each corroborate each other and therefore, the meaning of the IDC is water water, therefore they call it Mater water bill Magna.
Allahabad is all Hadith which don't fit the category of water, water. And under that you can have various categories. So I had all those who don't fit the criteria of automotive and I'm just giving you a brief overview without going into details brothers and sisters. So under the Allahabad
Yeah, we have
first level is Elma Shoal, Hadith mature per se. Mature has two meanings. One is a language meaning so somebody says, Oh, it's a very famous Hadith for example. Yeah, for example.
Allah will lie Elmy for either Allah coulomb is Muslim.
the seeking of knowledge is obligatory on every Muslim.
Is this a famous Hadith? What do you think?
Yeah.
Okay, who's
me? I should actually ask who hasn't heard of this, please?
I can't see any hands operating or nobody spoken.
So I presume on this group, I don't know how many people are on everybody's heard of this at least.
Um, all right.
Well, the one that I normally hear is also double L Mirelle. Medela. Heard that more often than
okay, but okay, so no, so you haven't heard this terrible Elfrida seeking knowledge is obligatory and every Muslim normally comes with
terrible lfra That Tamala called a Muslim or Muslim. Ah,
yeah, they studied as many chains. All right. That is famous as well. Yeah. So this, and yet this hadith is even though it's famous, because lots of people have heard about it. It's some people say it's fab.
created. Yeah. Or very weak, and it's more near fabrication than than weak. It's very famous. Lots of people use it. Yeah.
And that one you just mentioned about what global oil may mean that the elaborate that's even worse than that at least that is definitely a fabrication
or traveled to China even if you have to. That's a fabrication as well. So these are famous or these are people just mentioned willy nilly here they are, though they and they say the prophets of Allah Hassan said, Oh, no, he didn't.
Okay, so Moscow can mean that, but but so in, in the
in the,
in the alumina Hadith sense, when it's used, and in a Lula's Hadith, when they say this was hole in the definition sense, it means that HUD needs which has more than three transmitters at every level of the chain. Yeah, more than three transmitters. So you can imagine what a lot and therefore must be more than four or five, six, and you can carry on, but more than three or more than three is Hadith mature, there are hundreds and 1000s of Hadith which are much followed by that definition. Now the worst transmitted by more than three Sahaba or three almost herba.
Then we have another category called Hadith a category of a Had Allah had gives you ideas one but no, it doesn't mean that was what I said to you doesn't mean one. It just means it's not what the word did here you have three people transmitting a war, but it's still called Hadith
100 and the other one, Al Aziz al Aziz can have the meaning of Hadith being a rare Hadith they also use it
and it's rarely used like that as he's this is as ease meaning it's a rather beef you don't find many liking or it is used more in a technical sense. Yeah. Appropriate for the science of Hadith to mean. Yeah, two transmitters, minimum of a true transmitters transmitted this hadith.
Yeah, and there's not many lightness. And perhaps a famous example would be which is authentic? Yeah, which is actually authentic as well. is a Hadith which says, la you, you asked to come hubba Hatha and Hakuna hubba lay him inwardly he will want to be here. When does he mind? None of you truly believes until I am more loved. Yet to them then the children that terrorists and the rest of humanity this hadith is Hadith al Aziz, it is reported by analysts and Abu Hurayrah Gabriella who Anupama
then we have the third category under lahad which is called hadith
of glory allover Eve or Kareem Kareem was used by Timothy already yeah in the chant dibny After that makes me very sad this this hadith is worried from this chain. Yeah, so gareeb means that he only has one chain he could find he could only find one chain with this mention of Imam
Imam Zary through Abu Abu Salah to Abu Hurayrah the one that I know is used Yeah. So it is and that doesn't do the single chain doesn't make it weak. The problem was in the chain itself as well okay, you so you can have a single chain Hadith which is hurry, but it's actually authentic.
But it's actually authentic. For example, hadith of Overbeck pabrik Allah in the manner Anna Lubin yet by definition is actually hurried. Because only Ahmed bin Khattab reported this hadith
only Alton Khattab reported the study. So in Chang mon placed in the chair, it is only honored to the prophets of Allah Salah and then the rest come after that in larger numbers. Yeah, but this is authentic hadith. Yeah, used by so many Mahatma thing.
And corroborated as being authentic.
Now
so that's
just to finally just to mention to for today's lesson, what more so isn't. So, morsel is when
a tabby ie a tabby II says all other sort of lie sallallahu alayhi wa salam
who have the left go
this herb
yeah Sahabi the left go Tabby Cara Tabby II say I heard the Messenger of Allah say
no.
This no of course by definition, they will be called taboo ie that they'll be called savvy.
Okay, so when when a taboo II says con su lifestyle hola Salam yeah by definition it is more so why is it called morsel? Because it's from our Salah yo silho and Sal, they sent it meaning they sent it to the prophets Allah so Linda tidy and jumped over the sahabi Yeah.
Therefore what it actually means it's got water in it
got a break in it in the chain hasn't made
something a Sahabi is missing therefore it's gonna break in the chair. Is that right? Yes. So morsel hadith is a kind of Hadith which is Moncada. Mon cutter means cut? Yeah, so it's cutting the chain, but a cut is a Sahabi.
Yeah, so it is definitely a week at least we don't accept it scar breaking the chain. Remember, the first condition of accepting a sigh of relief is that it must be all connected. This is not connected straightaway it is weak.
And that's what the situation with this hadith is.
So the one that
never we mentioned is actually not wersal it is monka monka. Are these all very weak, you can say they've just been? Yeah. But we have one internally, which is from not Abu Hurayrah but it is from as it says here in the chain that is mentioned by Timothy and he's saying that's the best I can find as the the other critics his teacher said the same poster meet his most famous teacher.
And I mentioned him already because I've told you some of the leading
Hadith critics from the past what they said
was Imam Timothy's most famous teacher
no offers
inshallah you'll start remembering because I've repeated I've said this many times regarding when? Absolutely right. Who's that?
Jaffa How did you remember?
Can you told me?
Jennifer? Well done. Mr. Bahari as we when we were covering the six
set half cipta. We mentioned in them as well. So So nontrivially is following hear about what Imam Buhari has said already anyway and Athlon in the humble and Yahad, Nima ain and Abu Razi critics of Hadith undara Putin Courtney as well, they all said the same that this hadith at best is more so and how is it more so because in this chain it says
Malik and Malik Ibn Anas and as Annie, Zohar, imams, Ori and Ali even Hussein all all our civilized life as
we know early even Hussein is not a Sahabi
who's Ali ibn Hussein
that's the next question.
I'm asking you look
Is it the son of Hussein? Very good.
Which you're saying
the Fitz grandson, very good. Very good. Somebody's on the ball.
Okay, so this is
Ali even Hussein. What is the tablet a tablet E or tablet a
tablet a
why? Because the questions give somebody else a chance.
Why is he Tapi?
Because he has seen his father who is a Sahabi.
Who's his father again remind me
his father is Hussein Ibn Ali. The Allah Tala. Very good. Who's that speaking?
Shaheed should be
welcome. Yes, so So do we accept that Hassan Hussein was a hobby?
Yes of course.
Yeah, we do. Because of course they met their grandfather. Yeah, they were young when the prophesy someone passed away but young young they still learn some Hadith from a we mentioned one of the Hadith from from them before the way
Yeah.
And so yeah, there's a hobby and therefore, Ali given Hussein not to be confused is grandfather's also called Ali izany
Yes Ali Ali Eva was say is Tabby II was buried in Medina. Ali Hussain is also called, you'll have heard of this name Zainul Aberdeen, who's all heard that name
yay. Hands up. Say something. heard of the name? Zainul. Aberdeen
May.
Very,
very famous, but most people don't know whose Angel Augustine is. It's even the same, same person.
Yeah, he was a scholar and an abbot. That's why he's known as saying labin Zahid ascetic kind of person who like to live a poor kind of life. Yeah. But a scholar nevertheless. His son, his son was Muhammad Ali.
Even Hussein.
Yep, in the alley.
His son was Muhammad Ali, one of his sons. He had two sons who are famous. Muhammad Ali was a great scholar.
His other name was Al Al Bashir, Al back in
Zainul, Aberdeen and Al back here. I'm humbled me Ali, famous, because they are some of the there are the fourths and fifths of the 12 Imams of the Shia.
Anybody know that?
First of the 12 Imams of the Shia, is Ali don't allow and of course then Hassan and Hussein second and third. Then they don't go down the progeny on the children and the grandchildren great grandchildren of Hassan they just cut him off completely. For whatever reason, even though he's still linked back to Ali and the prophets, Allah Salam, and they go down only the chain of Hussein of who they pick. Not everybody. So from Hussein, who's the the third out there 12 Imams comes the fourth one who we're talking about today, Ali, even Hussein Zainul Aberdeen and his son was Muhammad Ali Al back yet who is a fifth of the Imams and his son 60 Mom is the famous
anybody know? Mom? Jaffa Very good. Who's that? Shaheed
very good. So you know your CI Mommsen.
While I have got a some knowledge of Islamic history, very good Jaffna. Saavik is known as Yes. Yes. So jofra Sadiq was the best of the scholars. Now, let me make it clear. These people that we're talking about, I've mentioned their scholars. Yeah. They never call themselves Shia Imams, by the way.
Yeah, they have not called themselves Shia Imams.
Let's come back a bit to today's Allium ever seen?
Yeah, who's the great grandson of the Prophet SAW Salem. Zane lobby Dean. I remember I said he had two sons famous.
I'm not saying he only had two sons, but two famous sons. Muhammad Ali will send his I'll backup who they took as the fifth of the 12 Imams. Strangely, they did take the other son, who's also a big scholar. Yeah, his name was Zaid ibn Ali.
Even Hussein instead of Muhammad Ali. He was a good ally even was saying
some of the car went to date
and said, What do you say is
am Ali about Abu Bakr and Allah will be allowed Anoma. Well Did it say hello and Omar, I'm saying the Shia definitely didn't say that. They went to what do you say about them? So they did when Ali he said, I say the same as my grandfather had said. He's talking about Ali Abdullah one that they were the best of people.
Of course, if she had been like that, yeah.
But they will. Ali is also famous because there's a sect of Shia who are not known as the twelvers or the jafria. Yeah, who don't believe in these 12 Imams who are known as aidea. They are named after because they followed Zyban, Ali.
Therefore followed Zyban Ali. So they are known as Zevia. They are not the ones who hate and do Cofer on the sahaba.
Yeah, it tends to be those who are from the 12 as the Rafita. And there are many sects beyond that I don't want to go into the whole story in history of sheer accent etc. That was just to let you know, in link with who Oliver Hussein is that we know who we're talking about Zayn lobby Dean now
how are we doing for time we're having a look, we've already gone nearly an hour isn't right.
So
let me come back to where we were.
This study, therefore,
the best opinion on it is it is more so they
can wait we shouldn't say all on a single lie sallallahu alayhi wa salam therefore
in this regard.
So this is one of the Hadith Imam and now these are Bahrain, which is not authentic.
And we'll come to one or two others on another occasion.
So if I say today for us to say what Imam know we says, And he makes only a very brief comment, he accepts this hadith remembers Tyson. He only makes a very brief comment in his shot or in his exposition. He reminds us of what was said about
we also said right at the beginning, when we discussed in the Malama, Lavinia the first Hadith.
Remember about that hadith and Nan Shafi Rahim Allah He said that in the Malama, Lavinia was a third of all knowledge. Yeah, that was so powerful
and
others like a Buddha award, for example,
he said in a statement, he said, I looked at the I collected their Hadith to do with the Sunnah, sunnah sunnah of the Prophet salallahu Salam, and I managed to collect more than 4000 and he has more than 44,000 in a sudden Although
it's interesting this wreath is not in the cylinder without is in Tirmidhi. And if the manager
Yeah, and it definitely burn
and water and water in my Malik's on water, but not enabled out, but he says I will download that for Islam revolves around for Hadith
he mentioned in the Malama, Labine yet every deed is judged by its intention. Then he mentions in Valhalla, but you were in the Sahara, but yeah, I think he's had he's six and memories. And that's why I'm always trying to indicate includes him in this. Remember his 40 is hadith is chosen, which are the very foundation basis of Islamic principle and the very foundations of Islamic legal ruling. Yeah. So he's pretty he's always picked Hadith which Islam revolves around. So I would bow says, four of them in the manana Lavinia then he says, surely that which is halal has been made clear that which is Haram has been made clear, obeying the Bangor Houma mod watershed we had between the both
issues which are of gout, etc. We did all the research of that already.
And then he says Hadith number three in the law, but you don't lie to him Paiva number I think it was 10 Surely Allah is good and accept only that which is good to do with the exception of that person. And then he mentioned the fourth one, he said
This one min horsnell Islam will not try to Kumala me from the goodness of a person Islam is him or her leaving that which doesn't concern him or her.
So that's why it's in no way mentioned from recording Abu Dhabi.
As far as what the meaning is, are we going to therefore look at this hadith? Yeah, we're going to look at it not because it is authentically clarified, but the meaning of this is already corroborated without needing the Prophet saw some to say that say it in these words. This meaning of good person goodness of Islam is linked with them leaving that which is a concern, but we will now in the next lesson elaborate we have plenty of texts from the Quran and Sunnah to show bring out this meaning right? This meaning is correct, but they're not the words directly as they come in this particular date from the Prophet size. So we will look at that next time in sha Allah
as to this idea this meaning how it is a shown from the graph this time what does it mean in our lives because Islam already teaches this actually from the ground somewhere yeah.
A call to call you have what's the federal law Holualoa come in the home over for a home any questions or clarifications more on what we've covered today? Because you may have been left confused about something so please ask
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Why did he say that? He said he said in other words, he was warning Be careful of the seed because a lot of the first seed in the books of Taha seed are reported by
RTL. Yeah, and,
and people who are not trustworthy and reliable and see the likes of a walker the who's a liar. from HUD, the theme of this talk, who is the best of them, but even he is so broke just acceptable when he transmits with a good chain or a correct chain. And also for tare. For Gary, for history, Islamic history, majority of it you have to be take with a pinch of salt. Yeah, because it's reported by people who are not trustworthy and reliable from what the theme is just
some of it can be corroborated. So that's just to be careful of when you read about Islamic history, don't accept everything that you read in the books of Islamic history by the way.
questions
rather than a
I have a question that he writes on the very beginning. Is there any shame or authority for this hadith number 12, which actually lends itself to be authentic? Or are we yet to cover that?
Ah, that's what I'm saying the meaning the meaning is authenticated from Quran and Hadith. Islam itself is teaching what this elite is saying. But this hadith is not authentic for results in these words. Okay, I see
that difference you need to understand sometimes you come across our beef, which is saying what Islam is already teaching in other Quranic verses or Hadith, but it doesn't make the Hadith correct. If there's a problem with the chain, and it's been shown to be
weak or fabricated. The idea of seeking knowledge yet is good, isn't it? Quran or Hadith teach you to seek knowledge because there's no Imam without knowledge anywhere. The first one is a claw. But we don't need to have a fabricator that is saying, seeking of knowledge is obligatory in every Muslim male and female and say the Prophet said that you understand the difference? Yes, that's a lie against the Prophet SAW Islam even though the idea is good.
So therefore, the next lesson we'll be looking at the idea that this study is mentioned which is not often
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does
anybody else?
You said these deeds are not authentic. But why would he include them in his 40 Hadith, then?
Oh,
because he's he's given his opinion. And now he said his hustle.
That's his opinion, but the majority of greater critics have a deep disagreement in from before him and after him.
Because Because you clearly said they stated that there was a break in the chain of narration.
Why would you not have considered that?
To put it slightly below the completely authentic? He said, it's her saying,
if he realize it, sure, he would have
disregarded that. Why would he have regarded it as acid? If there's a break in the chain? You have a bigger question than that before you've come to know me? Why is Tirmidhi included it? Where he's getting it from?
You to answer that one. Very easy to answer it. That Allah ma See, Tirmidhi said, I've only put savvy in my book, and I discussed this with you when we discuss car sector. Sure. Yeah. Al Bukhari and Muslim say that. But Abu Dhabi never says that a mantra Medina says, and the Saudi doesn't even say that. And therefore, they'll include her beef on a topic. And they'll point out like Timothy has done with this one that this is not authentic.
Yeah.
And then when then they can be critics of a piece of different caliber. And, you know, there'll be those who were talking about this earlier today, we're Imams who will be will be piping it as though as an authentic hadith. So why are they doing it? Because they made a mistake.
Ah, and there can be differences of opinion, but the majority in the strongest opinion I'm giving you, yeah, if you want to have some will follow. Maybe I'm giving you the opinion of great critics of Hadith, which is therefore, from present, and even before numbers time, admittedly humble and mumble hobby, a terminal P and the SAT II will have them a Razzie. Yeah. Had them. I mean, they're all well before.
No, don't worry.
About No, they will before. And they've already given that to you. Yeah. So we always give an excuse. I mean, look, that from present day with the
gentleman we talked about, is in great service to the idea of Hadith and the importance of checking Hadith before using anything in the in the last century, Rahim Allah.
And he said, he's sorry.
He said, It's authentic. So if a lay person and I said this before, what came across it and saw Cheryl Barney saying sorry, and said, Well, if you have money set aside, fine, you can follow that if you want. You don't go home? Kind of kind of critique of a leaf making mistake? Yes, they can. So the other critique, somebody is appointing I see this as a mistake. It is not authentic. It's a mistake by CFO money, but I have a whole lot.
Does that
mistake my mom? No way.
Okay.
Anybody else?
I'm sorry, it was a bit technical today.
So if I lost you somewhere, I do apologize. My
I'm only giving you a cursory look at when I talked about alumina, Hadith, the issue of a hand and whatever. I'm just giving you overview very brief. I'm going to details. So you have some idea about it. When you come across these perhaps these terms, you understand, because I think it's beneficial. This class is to go into some depth, isn't it? And therefore, even though I'm going into the
things, I will omit these, I can go into a greater detail, but that's not what it's because it was linked with this at least and we had a term called morsel. And I had to mention something to
linked with that. That's the reason why I did
but I hope it was useful to you. And if you have perhaps a recording available
then you can always go over it again and make your own notes so you can remember those things
should I leave you all alone? If there's no more questions?
If there is I can answer in the next five minutes and we'll finish
regarding her taste number 12 Yes. Is it much worse to have Bill McDonough then?
No, we don't say that.
Because Motorworks it would mean that many Sahaba reported it and we found chance for it.
How many Sahaba report this hadith we only got
so we don't say what tomato will matter because for first say it's motivated with meaning we have to have authentic hadith coming like that. And it's not authentic
Yeah, you can only use that for a particularly once it's weak we can't say but mortar logical manner
I know what you're getting at. You're saying we can get the meaning of this from Quran from the overall meaning of Islam. And I'll come to that next time but you'll see we can't say about this a bit after I've clarified that for you. You can't say still about this is what it will matter. No, you have to have similar Hadith coming from different Sahaba with authentic chains not morsel chains, not cut off chains. Coming with similar words to this Yeah, they're all authentic saying the similar words from the mouth of the prophet sighs Salam then we say this hadith in moto moto mana this doesn't fulfill that criteria and desert
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Yeah, yes Rick just like a lesson for today. Thank you. No problem. So next week inshallah Yes, we'll hopefully complete this and if and then we would the holiday will be our break. I was everybody okay for next week.
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maybe people are busy.
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I was working. He was on the way can't hear anything.
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