Munir Ahmed – Hadith 2

Munir Ahmed
AI: Summary © The history of Islam is discussed, including the importance of Sun satisfaction and the use of Hadith as a source of evidence. The use of media and media research in portraying the credibility of Islam is emphasized. The importance of history and the belief in a particular angle for the legal system is also discussed. The use of "naive" in the title of the book and the importance of authentic names in legends is emphasized. The discussion also touches on the origin of hip hop music and its use in various media.
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capsula Alhamdulillah

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wa Salatu was Salam ala Gambia

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savvy as a marine. I'm not bad

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fennesz Allah tala and yet

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Tina necessarily who were in magnetic disk and was here.

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Amylin salam wa Taala

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while in ethical way later we'll see what are how La quwata illa billahi la de la bien

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Aloma, Cubana wost. Let me Tina. What a bubble mean in the campus. semula alim was sallallahu ala nabina Muhammad wa ala alihi wa sahbihi Juma in a MOBA.

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We begin, as we always by praising Allah will praise Him we seek His guidance and forgiveness. We ask Allah We implore Allah for useful knowledge and understanding wide systems. And we asked him to purify our hearts and our intention

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to make this effort purely for his pleasure seeking reward from Allah subhanho wa Taala no worldly gain.

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And may Allah accept from us our efforts. And we depend on an utterly Allah subhanaw taala Of course, and to him is our return and we can be some presently final messenger Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wa sallam

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last time the session of

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shuttle, Irvine and now we're, of course we haven't started doing the shelf yet. You know my way I don't go jumping straight into it. And way of introduction we looked last time at

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a few issues to do because it's to deal with a hadith. So we looked at the definitions of Hadith and Sunnah, what the difference was recording into in the different fields of science in Islam itself, and how to understand them. Then we looked at the place of Sunnah and Hadith, and the goddess to legal rulings, and how Muslims live their life and there were a essential part without which we couldn't even understand the Quran. So after Kitab, we sent a source for Sona. And we looked at the proofs of that from the Quran itself as an evidence against those who reject the idea. So now we look to the issue of this misnomer misunderstanding, perpetuated also initially by Muslims

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themselves, and also by the orientalist. And that to the extent that modern Muslims have this misunderstanding, that Sunnah was not written down until 150. plus years later when behati Muslim and Mata was beginning to be written as though there was nothing there before. So it gives them a room to say it's all concocted afterwards. And plenty of evidence against that, particularly linked with the Hadith of the Prophet SAW solar labtech to go under the shade and don't write from anything later on except the Quran, Carmen katabami Shea and vital Quran fairly young,

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and whoever is written from me anything besides that, then let them wipe it out. And we explained the Sadiq last time so I don't intend to go into today. And I started mentioning that we have plenty of evidence, not only from the time of Rasulullah sola, sola, which is clearly many ahaadeeth and many reports and many scholars later on had actually access to

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not NASA copies parchments and books of people who wrote the the Sahaba time

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Sahaba time which are not, they're not extended. Now. That's not an evidence to say because they're not available now in the 21st century that they were never written. That's nonsense. Okay. And you have many scholars like in the Hudson Valley be referring to those?

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Yeah, those early sources of writing from Sahaba otavi from Sahaba. Even though hurayrah mixed up famous statement that nobody knows more Hadith than he does from the Prophet solo. So except perhaps that's in his opinion. Others have plenty of Hanif as well, except for hands of delight in the US because he said so hobby because he

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writes down are heavy, and I learned them off by heart.

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So well documented online that I'm going to ask is I said to you last time, of course, a son of average know us. And he wrote the study and we have authentic statements where he's asking the prophets I said, I mentioned to you last time, that the Muslim Muslim code, we're making mockery of him that you write everything. Sometimes the prophets angry, sometimes he's sad, sometimes he's happy, you know, how do you know what to write and what not to write? So he mentioned a prophet prophesized them said right from me anything for By Allah, in who whose hand is my soul, nothing but truth comes from memory. So he's encouraging the writing as he did as processor wrote letters to

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mysteries that says so now when he's writing the will seek and constitution of Medina. Yeah. Also as his extent to this day that was written as part of his son, anything and we describe that son defined it last time we have a even though Bo Herrera is not writing himself, his immediate student.

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One of them and he had many, many students as you can imagine from the therapy learning from him. I was hammam in them will not be his nose ha, his writing of a hadith over 100 million 150 Hadith or so, from Abu huraira directly that is even available today.

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As proof of this is not being returned 150 to 150 years later. From the prophesized time this is TV writing humble when I was a hobby. Yeah. That No, No sir, is available, even to this day and has been referred to by many scholars throughout the century, as having authentic Halley's Comet from Hubble Varela back for us.

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If he's also famous that summarize it near john doe, who is Sahabi had also a manuscript rissalah as they call it,

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and it is well known hustled bustling, who is Tabby died in 110 hijiri same time as his companion also, the Mohammed mystery. Also muhaddith and 32 are both

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they were both curvy, and great scholars. Yeah. And transmitted to her deem it necessary and even more accurate than personal basava Hassan bursary transmitted a hadith from the manuscript of Samara, Edna john dub,

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the Sahabi who wrote her these from the prophets of Salaam directly. So that's well documented.

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in, de, amongst the whole ama of Hadith, those who transmit right from early times, right from early times.

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It is mentioned by Mr. hubie Abubakar and some 500 hobbies written

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that he'd written.

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He's not a transmitter of lots of hobbies, the likes of our backer and Omar etc, you find from others, depending on how much they were busy with running the state. And he only lived a few years after prophesies. So you're not going to find lots of retransmitted from obviously, because he's in charge of looking after the state. But those who are busy in learning and teaching, they're the ones who are going to be transmitting it.

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Also, aside from that, there are various, I don't want to go through the exhaustive list of things, but it's to give us an idea, very clear idea that there were a hadith written at the prophet SAW some time from Sahaba directly, and that increased even more so even from Sahaba who didn't write from their students who would attend in

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Abu huraira. It's a case in point, I will say the three

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well, to mention, I will Sha is mentioned in authentic hadith in Bukhari and Muslim that at first to Mecca, the fourth bar of the prophet SAW so love was written by him, by order of the prophet SAW Mrs. mentionable hardy Muslim, which is Sandy Hook, but he said the Prophet Sessoms home what he's saying. So it was written even at the time by the author of Rasulullah saw, it is mentioned by Abu Dhabi. And have you seen behind a Muslim, which is authentic Cadiz.

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abess, a platinum boss got the yellow underwear that he had, he became blind at the end towards the end of his life when he became elderly

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Talking about words. Now, the latter half of the first century hegira. So his students, he had books so he students used to recite the ahaadeeth from his books to him.

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So he could hear Yeah, and he was correct. He was corroborating that this leaf is correct. And this is not correct what you're reading etc. Even though he became blind.

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Or Wah ma survive the nephew of Oman, what mean I know you're unhappy. It is documented that he wrote a D from her, all wide moves away, if you remember, mentioned the greatest scholars that he met, and he's Tabby from the Sahaba, in his opinion, was a memorial.

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greatest of scholars, he said.

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Ali Nagila

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his students wrote from him, Alia Golan has some writings mentioned authentic,

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authentic statement from him asking him did the promises some teach you any secret because the sheer idea the idea of

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Ali having special status and he was given something others weren't given started spreading even at this time, you know, this is where he started the political separation. So they asked him because some were saying he's been given secrets on the silo and given the promise I'll teach you any secrets. He said, No, this is authentically said No, I wasn't taught any secrets, except, except that which Allah gave me knowledge in understanding the Quran and the Sunnah of the prophet SAW Salem, and that which I had written on my scabbard of my soul.

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He had a few things written from the profit cycle. So even he's written things. This is all evidence to show that so much was written at that time.

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I said family and

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finish with that in in regards to the evidence, and I said Malik, who died in 179? Is the, of course the Imam of Medina. At the time. There were many he wasn't the only one. There were many Greek scholars at the time, but gay became the most famous. Yeah, because Maliki mother came from him. Yeah, with all its variations in that, who died in 179 injury, he had his own works, which is a collection of ahaadeeth. But as far as well, remember, I said I thought, statements of Sahaba and Tabby in and opinions of others all a collective in his book, The famous book al Motta,

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Al Motta, he never made it into a book only for Saia beef. He never claimed that. Yeah, he never claimed that. But in it

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water from the well trodden path.

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Well term, and that's why I call them water, meaning this is the way of, and he has a bit his opinions. He has statements of Sahaba and Tabby in his tummy Tabby. Yeah, the one who come after Tabby. So he has himself, it took him he taught his mawatha for 14 years.

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In muscle memory.

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Yeah. And when he's teaching it,

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where the students are coming to take his mortar, they take it over a short period of time,

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even though he's teaching over a 40 year period, and at one time, he makes the statements ragamala He says, it took me so many years to compile a mortar.

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And look, you come here and you just listen to it over a period of time over a few years. And you go away with it.

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Yeah, I mean, he was trying to say, oh, easy, it's where you are, look how long I've spent over it. Water. So our water

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and he's to be attorney.

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they accept the orientalist say that that the first written work on Hades is Amata 179. He died, he dropped. In other words, that's what they say nothing before. That is absolute nonsense, absolute nonsense. And that's very important for us to understand, to counter that challenge. And as I said, the person who challenged that to challenge the orientalist, especially in the modern era was Mohammed most of our army of Indian background. But he's ali-mohammadi my my fav, himself says is absolutely brilliant. He died last year. May Allah bless you in my 80 years of age.

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But he's worked for in English, you know contesting what the orientalist the claims are make on that poor knowledge and that poor research is smashed their ideas.

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Muhammad Mustafa, allow me

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allow me, the other person who presently continue is not task actually. And he is amazing

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is Professor Jonathan Brown?

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You may have heard of him.

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He embraced Islam more recently, he was a critic of the whole idea of heavy, thick sweater when he was a non Muslim. But he had the brilliant idea to go and find out from the horse's mouth, from the scholars of the beef in the Arab world, what this was all about. And when he did that, he was absolutely and he went, he obviously went with

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hulusi went with good intentions, to find out the truth, not with his mind made up already a lot as well opened his heart and guided him to the truth from how he was amazed at the size of Illuminati and he himself has become a master in the size of a professor Brown. You look at his work, and he has written stuff. And I had the privilege of going to his lecture for a few hours on some of those aspects of how we challenge the orientalist method of critic critiquing, where knowledge comes from how they critique it, they call it historical,

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critical method

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and how he challenges some of their ideas and save the old. There isn't only one way of critiquing, where knowledge has come from Muslims have their own way. And just because it's different to yours, don't be so arrogant as to think that your way is the only way.

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And there are certain premises and assumptions on which they come to conclusions on but we have our own premises and assumptions, which are not less, but they do to do with the man. For example, the Oriente doesn't recognize any position for Sahaba may forget that orientalist doesn't see what he coming from the Prophet because they don't see him as a prophet. So when they're making criticism, they're thrown in the bin.

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That no give no credence to Sahaba and to the statement of the prophet SAW Selim, so when Sahaba says something, yeah, we say Sahaba Don't lie. As long as it can be established as come from Sahabi. This is very important principle Illuminati.

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Because the prophet SAW Selim clearly said as Quran present prophets and forget them, the Sahaba those who are not monastics and co founder of COVID talking about the believing ones, even despite all the mistakes, so the province is not said in authentically hydro nurse economy. So mela Vinay aluna, whom some similar thing

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it's also reported a high role carbon economy that is not authentic, the best of people. He said Karani as my generation, he said met the Sahaba, then those who follow them, which is tied in then those who follow them, which is teletubby. Then after that, lies untruthfulness will begin to spread.

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So look at this. This is very special from what the prophet says I'm saying, of course we don't say about Fabien Anthony Tavi, that they're all truthful, but Sahaba have a special place from crown and from the profits otherwise.

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As long as it's proved that it is statement from Sahaba, as to be proven through the listener, and through corroboration.

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So anyway, that's to just to give you a little bit of how on orient please come in a particular angle. And Muslims come from belief in a particular angle, and the two can never be as accurate. Another way when I'm teaching, I'm actually the last time said that the two cannot be there at loggerheads. Because if you come with doubt, you don't accept revelation. Yeah. Then you're going to then you're going to treat what the prophet SAW Some say even if it's authenticated to him as rubbish,

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aren't you because you don't accept that he's got revelation.

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So the premises they base their critique on of the history of knowledge is a totally different premise, is full of doubts and follow up, treating all human beings as deceptive liars, cheats, those who get in position they're all trying to deceive. Yeah, in modern writing, but we don't see Sahaba we don't see the profits or something like that. Otherwise, it's the harbor like that the the promises have failed miserably in his mission to transform anybody. Is that right? We have to reject

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That actually never might have ease because Ron is sent brought to us by through through the Sahaba rhodiola on homogenizing. That's why we say, may Allah be pleased with all of them. Yeah, we have to reject the Quran because it came through their writing and their heft of the Quran

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we have nothing left, if you're going to go down that road, very important for us to understand this in regards to that now.

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So that was really to do with given give you an idea of some basics of Illuminati the science of belief, I don't go into details, the Luma these, you know, is one of the most tricky things and are not mastered. But I studied at a humbler with my teacher who is a master of Hadith, in the, in the in the present day, well known in the world. But you know, I'm a student here to him and he's a master or the

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especially in in that field. And many great scholars refer to him for his tech geek. Love no debate. That gig means authority of deciding whether this is authentic or not authentic in this present day and age, which is an amazing thing even scholars

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world over here in the last century, shareholder body of course, Rahim Allah, may Allah have mercy on him is well known as famous for being

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leading in the field of aluma Hades leading in that field.

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Chef avani himself mentions and has come across works of chef Abdullah

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He has met him as well. And he has mentioned and I've seen it in his writing as well, but he's mentioned other occasions about

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share, doula how he got it some hobbies together and how he deciphered them how he gave his comments on all the narrator's and then he's judgment on the heavy he said, I have never seen the light of this before from scholars over this in the past of the present Sheffield Valley center.

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Should have been Yeah, he's seen as. But it's also interesting that my other teacher spent less time we should have come none. We

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also had this Yeah, has great respect again, he's met Chef albani for sure. Halle Berry.

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has a critique in Hades critique and anyway, that's it's a field that's very specialized, very specialized. One of the things orientalist are terrible at doing and they pull the wool over people's eyes is that pull out when they want to be critical of a deef? From that these sources are these which are weak, very weak, of fabricated, and the say, take a sample like that. And then they say, look, this is laughable. We can't accept any of them.

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Because these are these scholars are passionate passing these around. They fail to tell you that the happiest scholars already before they came hundreds of years ago said that these are these are very weak and rejected and fabricated. They fell in love with

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the heavy scholars in the Muslim already know that these have you found weak and fabricated that they've already deciphered and separated them the weak and the fabricated and they know that there's people who fabricated but with their science they were able to detect that didn't require the orientalist to come and tell us that these are these are weak or fabricated. So this is great in just this how to deal with it.

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before we go on to a noun we and the other bind collection,

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I want to say something about a setter setter

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or Sahar setter Who's heard of the term.

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The six authentic works, that's what it means, okay?

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What does it mean and where this where did this term originate?

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Basically the six

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There's a problem with this term. It's very famous, most most students of knowledge know about this term.

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But they don't know what the problem with it is.

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Because when I was growing up learning about Islam, I'd heard about it at that time in the early that we're talking about in my 20s. And generally accepted as a teacher that that time would teach you, me and they weren't for you from that. But they knew more than I did my teacher that time, that after Kitab, after the Quran, we have the six authentic collections of heavy

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what what's the problem with it?

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first problem with it is gives the impression that there's no other collections of relief except the six, which is nonsense.

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All right. first problem is that second problems, it gives the impression that all the relief in these six collections are authentic, the same, the six authentic, yeah, some people see it, which is also not true. Not true.

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This term started in later times, actually, probably in the fifth sixth century of Hitler. I'm talking about history century. So five 600 years after the prophet SAW

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an ugly shackle rally, he says perhaps, initially in the second from the fourth century hegira, in the second, when he was asked about what are the source of our sources of knowledge, he said after the book, then he went into his house and came out with four collections

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Sahih Bukhari Sahih Muslim

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What did he bring at tirmidhi and Abu Dhabi, not tirmidhi Sorry, I will doubt the underside

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of the doubt and the saddle.

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So, those are the 44 he brought, he said these are the foundations of Islamic knowledge after the ground. So for he mentioned at that time, and

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orlimar saying around the sixth century seems somebody called avatar had a selfie not selfie selfie his name

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mentioned then a fifth one, he added to the music to that collection, to a movie to a collection. So he said these requied are the very foundations of Islamic knowledge, these five books even imagine seems to be added later on.

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Right so when they when we talking about six authentic collections. Nowadays, most people

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they think of

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some people Hi,

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excuse my writing Sahih Muslim.

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I will download

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the movie

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and the savvy

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not necessarily necessary and ignorant magic.

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This is there's no agreement across the board on this by the way, and this is another concept that is clearing up. Yeah. Another concept is clearing. In fact,

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if you weren't even hundreds of years back when this idea started in the Maghreb.

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maglie means North Africa basically, they did have a manager some having the manager

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in Madrid, they put

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a mess in the already haven't done poses that analysis. So they added a mortar to these five Yeah, not if the manager and then if you some added like

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in our field, I think adding a daarmee.

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Son, a daughter, we

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the biggest debate was in regards to in the manager. Right. majority of people over the centuries Allah ma of Habib and scholars have little problem in agreeing these is fine now. However,

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as I said before, these are not the only sources of sun and heavy

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mortars that already we also have

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Most of the athletes

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died in 241 hazera.

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Yeah, I've met was the student of Imam Shafi Nam Shafi.

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mm Shafi dies in 205. Peter, right of the Shafi Mota.

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Aside from that,

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we have others like

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data me I've mentioned already, which is not amongst that, and what do we have? We have collections of leaf which some even came later. Like sunny in the present, we have heat in the headband. Yeah, they're in the

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more in the fourth century, early fourth century. They did their collections.

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We have

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more seneff in the abbey shaver, which is very early on. Yeah. Some of these terms I'm going to mention, just to clarify, before I mentioned some of these people in the in the category of

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most not all, they're known as massage need.

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I'm sorry, it's technical, this, but

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my lessons are usually not just for a reminder that the ideas are meant to be deeper. And I would urge you to take notes, if you want to benefit from them. I took notes when I studied it, otherwise, there's no way to remember it. Yeah. And it helps you understand as time goes on, it means referring to your nose

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COVID masani. They call them that. In language term Muslim means a Hadith, which is has a senate connected,

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complete, going back to the Prophet sauce, if not broken, they call it Muslim. But masani when they're done in collection form, like Muslim athma, most of the bizarre al bizarre who is also a collector from the early times, he has a belief as well. Yeah.

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What they mean by that is that Akmal, for example, has, how is he arranged the Hadees. He's arranged them in the way of the names of the companions. So he doesn't give titles, according to the topic. He gives titles in his chapters, according to the Sahaba his name. So if you open Muslim afterward, it starts with the names of qualified Russian,

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the formula for Russia faces as a top Sahaba and their ahaadeeth. Then he goes into the ashram oversharing, the ones who work in China were given the good news of paradise. So he begins with that Hadith. And then he goes to the rest of the Sahaba in alphabetical order. That's how he's Muslims organized, and bizarre will be the same

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interesting dimension that

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Darby who died in 255.

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I remember correctly.

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some people call his

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collection Muslims as well.

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But as I said, most of that can be used in a language sense, right of Harvey, which has a full chain.

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But really the way he's organized it, he's organized it. And on the topic of Afghan legal rulings to do with dahar to do with Salatu will do to do with sound fasting had all the rules, regulations. mamilla. Right. That's how he's organized it. So that's why that better term, I suppose said is to call it sulan at daarmee. Anyway, so most nerd collection usually means that we also have a collection. They call them Mahajan, encyclopedias. Yeah, more Jim, the more famous of those are more gem of a top Ronnie. He has three different ones. The cubbies, the old set and nursery. The big one, the middle one and the small one. Yeah. How we organize the day. He does the leaf according to the

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names of his scholars to show how many scholars here so that's margin but it's got Hadith in it as well. Yeah.

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It's got authentically Finnick we can Ethernet fabricated Ethernet. This is

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margin, margin metabo Ronnie

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and then we have

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jalama. Compendium.

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These are the jalama and committee. In fact, Mr. Bahari and my Muslim and tirmidhi called as collection, Jamia? Jamia matassa Believe it or not yeah Compendium which is an abbreviated Compendium,

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both Muslim and Mohali abbreviated meaning a shortened version of all the halifa new mahari for example knows more than, you know,

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six 600,000 Hadeeth and he puts only a few percentage of those. Amongst those are many authentic ones but Mr. Mohan is

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criterion for beef and that he wants to put the most authentic ones that's why some others come afterwards and say, Well, why didn't Buhari put this but Biharis critique and he's

00:36:07 --> 00:36:29

his criteria with strict to pick the strongest hobby. So in mumble mumble Hari, Rama Hola. Most of these collectors at least is amazing is from the area of the sun, iran iraq area, the present day, Uzbekistan, and Mahara summer camp. Nearly all of these are from that area, by the way.

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Except my mother

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suddenly shifts and they traveled around you see everywhere in the Muslim world,

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collecting honey. In those days imagine traveling from life on time they spent corroborating There is nothing like it. No wonder scholars in their time and after all, we said like the likes of blood, the robotic and it's not minute, Dean. The chain of narration is from our dean. If it was long, leissner, lapel, Masha, Masha.

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And he goes, if it wasn't further, the fact that we have a chain to check and corroborate if somebody actually said that people would say whatever they will, whenever they will, and we will to know probably said this prophet said that, and they did. And they did. So during that times, some of the leading scholars would ask people who are who are preachers, who are throwing out these the prophesied, some said, this surah has so many virtues, this is so many virtues, blah, blah, blah, there's so much about that, by the way, most of our Hadith to do with the virtues of surah in the Quran, and if you are not authentic, you should know that as a rule of 100, they know that most so

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anything you've come across that needs double checking, for example, you are seen is the heart of the Quran, really are seen at the dying person of the grave. None of it is authentic, there is nothing authentic and heavy from the virtue of your sin. For IRC, that's the message not virtues is part of the grace of Allah. No, we don't need fabric at the week elite to corroborate that. And when they were asked, actually some of them we have authentic people that the SE was saying to soul so preacher, I know. You said this, about this and this. And you said the Prophet said it and you gave a chance as well. And have we've checked with those people. You went in the chair and they don't

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know anything.

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I wanted he said, it's documented. He goes, Yeah, I did it because people are too busy with the mother Babu hanifa and Sega studying the life of the prophet SAW Islam and they are his detracted from the Quran. So I thought I'll make up some Hadith about the Sooners of the Quran. So I could bring people back to the ground. They say is well they admitted

00:38:52 --> 00:39:08

that those who admit it, and then those who don't admit it, yeah, so when when the Mojave says to them, but did you not come across the Hadith on the prophesies of them said, Man, Canavan. Lega Mota and middle of the rewired team be doing Mohammedan mantova la

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familia de Beauvoir makhado manana Did you not come across that the whoever lies from me will find a seat in the fire. So, some of them played tricks with Word and said, we're not lying.

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on him, we're lying on behalf of him just playing with language words.

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Anyway, so

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forgive me a little bit. How are we doing for time?

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Yes, margin. We did. So, Joe ami, what is your ami mean? Janet multiservice Jamia Mukhtar says I'm a Muslim

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in Mumbai

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This is Muslim judge Mr. McCarney, who dies in

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256 a jury.

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And Mr. Muslim who dies in 261 years later

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the Java net because if you compare them to the light itself the collection of doweled and the satin, they call their books the summer.

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Summer, because they deal mainly with the akam to do with

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Voodoo taharah Salah fasting, and they collect their honeys and their chapters are all to do with that more, more on the law buying selling contracts married divorce.

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But jalama is wider than that. They go into the issues of knowledge of Eman of sila topics life The prophesized level, that's the word you'll find out how to deal with that. Yeah, so it's much wider. Hence it's a compendium. Yeah. And they're, they call them that they call them savvy themselves, the office

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savvy, they're saying these is this is what we've authenticated. And we've only put in what we think is authentic or heavy. My mother doesn't say that.

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My mother doesn't say that, even though he's seen at his time, as the leader of those who transmitted as my teacher says that any heavy chain transmitted by Mr. Malik, and with a full chain from the Prophet size to them in his mortar, they're all authentic.

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But he doesn't transmit only authentically. He's giving other things which have opinions of others, etc, etc. So that's why this is not follow the Saudi collection, because he didn't call it a Saudi collection. But these two assigned collection they called a Saudi.

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They call this site now, you can have critics of Hadeeth and great scholars who are on par with them that they can look at it again and say, well, you made a mistake there because they're human beings. It's not the growl is it? Because they can still make mistakes. Yeah.

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They can still make mistakes. And yet, my teacher I say, how come we both say anybody who criticizes say Mr. Bahari, we criticize them.

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And then we'll have the theme. And my teacher says any heavy reporter recorded in a Mambo Holly's Sahai, which is recorded with recording with a full chain to the prophet SAW Salem. There is no at least which is not authentic. That's his caliber. His teacher was Ali in the Medina who was also muhandis. There are Mohandas seen. Nowadays, you hear the word Mohanty, theme specialist in heavy majority of mahad the thing I just transmitted somebody they don't know which is authentic and which is not and they don't know how to corroborate it, then they are critiques those who are critics of critics of a deal. They are called low carb or napkin. Yeah, they are few and far between. They are

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not just transmitters. Yeah, they are the likes of Alina Medina, his teacher. Yeah. And before him, others like shoba didn't have a judge who was early times and his two students. Yeah, the State of Qatar and the MACD. Yeah, these are all before Mr. Mahalia Muslim, they were great critics of a deal who these dentists learned from.

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Yeah, they weren't just transmitters. Mr. Malik was a critic of HUD, he wasn't just a transmitter

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wasn't just a transmitter.

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Anyway, so

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they put and over the centuries, people have found that there are a handful of hobbies nevertheless, in Muslim which are not authentic, which are not authentic.

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They're heavy and stateless in Imam Buhari, when he finds that there's a problem with it, he won't transmit it as a chain Hadeeth he'll put it he said, or it is heard. You put it in a different way. It's there. So we all have the same home. No, but he's put it in a particular way to show you that he's not happy with it being authentic, but he's putting that just for completion for knowledge what was being said

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there's many issues but I don't want to go into I'm just giving you an overview of what I can

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adapt me as I said was similar time if if he

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dice in 261 Peter and he 256 era. And he's 255. so silly darnay data makes scholarly level of this is very good. His teachers are similar to their teachers, actually, similar to their teachers. But that to me doesn't put the condition I'm going to put just say in my collection, and therefore in his collection, you find broken chains of heavy, you have statements of Sahaba, Tabby, authentic, non authentic, weak and also fabricated

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from the same area.

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Many of them are from the same area. Yeah.

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Iraq, Iran in all that sort of area, but they traveled around and, of course, Barbara summer, and he's taught me summer candy. Summer cannon bahara in the same area, knee support. Muslim Ebner hija de sapori. Knee support is also in the

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northeast Iran, where north or northeast Iran is close to this area, again, northeast of around Yeah, we've got

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the likes of us, Pakistan and some are all in that sort of area. Amadou Humboldt,

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a great muhaddith and critic of Hades again, he's in Baghdad.

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He's in Medina, of course, Malik.

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Now, these collections, even though telemovie calls it some people started calling type of attorney. You'll see the statement, Jamia sorry, Attorney V is not not correct. not correct. He didn't call it that. Nobody call it that he called the gentleman we never set aside. He never put those. In fact, he actually

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tirmidhi is well known to actually critic at the end of the day, I find this at least to be he said Hassan sorry, this is authentic, or he said this is Hassan is good, or this is Moncure is rejected. Yeah. Or this is very strange. And if so is saying all that with majority of the heavy. So when he's saying that, obviously he doesn't think they're all saying so how can you can you call it Jamia Sahih misnomer. It is not Jamia say it's just gentlemen. He's collected here and where they are weak. He points it out in most places. That's his opinion. Yeah, critical believe his teacher. His most famous teacher of the movie is a mumble hottie.

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Mr. Buhari,

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and he's from total most us back us Pakistan.

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And he dies to 79. Yeah. After he dropped

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to the movie is a critic of these. Yeah, he's a critic of Hadoop.

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His main teacher is a Mambo firing. Yeah. So his caliber is amazing. Actually.

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something on the look of hobbies, which is the illness in Hades in that topic, which is part of sometimes part of the summer tirmidhi, as it's called, people call it summon. Because to me these chapters, headings. Yeah, he put it in a similar way fashion to Abu Dhabi and the Saudi and then the imagine so instead of calling a Jamia, they often call it summon. Yeah, but actually himself called Benjamin. Yeah, so this is just a confusion. It's fine to call it something just the way to arrange

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a Buddha. Buddha ODE is his main teacher is at Medina humble. Without

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mama Hari, I will download.

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Actually much the hits. They're not just more hard the thing. They are scholars as well. For haha. In other words for keys, that's the field as well are their own right. majority. Others are following a particular other method. Yeah, we have other scholars.

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I'm humbled.

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He's Deaf is two

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75 majoring

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I would always summon is perhaps the most comprehensive. Yeah, the thing with double down old

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is that he comments on many hobbies in his solo in his collection, but not all of them,

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often stays quiet about them. So then scholars have a different opinion. And only those who are versed in hobbies can have those opinions about the ones who stayed quiet about, he never said I was going to pull all your authentic teeth. He's trying to collect the sun now what he can together. And obviously majority of them are authentic. Yeah, but they're also in them, those who are weak, those which are very weak, those which are rejected, and perhaps a handful of those which are fabricated as well. But he's made no statement or he's made a mistake somewhere. Yeah. However. So when you come across a Buddha, you don't just accept that it's authentic. We're more likely if you say if we

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said Adi and Muslim for the public. If it says, especially Bali and Muslim both agree on it is very likely suffering t then the problem comes in its interpretation, because you can't just interpret it because you come across one or if you have to look at the whole topic, what the Quran says about it. What other Hadith on that topic? Yeah, one thing that's why I tell for the public, you do not go and study directly. Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim, you confuse yourself, you will confuse yourself

00:51:44 --> 00:51:47

what I was going to say, and I'm not gonna say

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dies in 303 meter.

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His level of brilliance in Hades is very high after Bihari Muslim, they say and the same.

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His criterion for choosing her This is brilliant. Apparently he did a collection first in while he was in

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which he called Sunil Cobra. The the major work on solar, but the imiev on the governor in his area, I asked him to pick only the most authentic leaf in his opinion, or the authentic ones. As soon as he didn't say I was gonna collect only the authentic ones. So then he chose from that some people say other chose from him, wrote from him in the somni, for example, who's a great scholar as well. Student are among the sorry, yeah. His collection is called al much tuber or the selected ones. Yeah. And also it's known in by some people as much tenor and much tenor, which is a similar meaning actually, two words have the similar meaning.

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yeah, most famous he said the evening assuming his student is the one who transmitted his album which tada on which tena, which is also known as,

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as soon as Sabra, the smaller sooner taken from Sunil Cobra, which is major work. So all of the Cerner saga is internal Cobra. Yeah.

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All of small Cobra is not available today, much of it is available, but Sunil Sabra is the son of Maasai that

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circulated nowadays,

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those selections that he took, in the merger, Alka Sweeney, which is in Iran, who dies in

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two to 73.

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Probably with a merger, even though he's Hadeeth, transmitter scholar, but he's not a critical, fatty, he's a collector. So in his book, although there are many authentic belief, but there are also more than a significant number, as is mentioned by other scholars, or halifa came later very clearly many of them mentioned it, there are many very weaker these and also fabricated a vif incident in the merger. So they said Sunday we imagine those scholars like a lobby and others said it shouldn't be put amongst this list because it has too many weak, very weak or fabricated belief in it. So when you have something just an imager, you have to be even more cautious then you have to

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be with Abu Dawood and tirmidhi. And say

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it's level is not even the same level as the army. I'm not the same level and what are Muslim documents? Yeah. Also the other collections and

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The issue with the collection of in the merger although it still contains many authentical internet, but then he corroborating yeah by those who are critics.

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Something shall burning as a doubt

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that they did something but did they in a particular and different way and some criticize you for money for doing enough. He did Sahai and they have telemovie sorry and Dave have

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without and the site etc, of the sooner

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so he did his own authentification and weakening of a heavy of the sooner, okay, which is published. The thing what he did was, he separated from telemovie and produce a separate book of Asahi, according to him on a separate book from turmeric called life. Other scholars have a leaf and a gentle critical cell, you should have kept it together as one book. And and because it doesn't belong here. The book is of a monster movie. You're giving your Eastern opinion on the Hadith. You shouldn't have separated kept it together and give me your opinion. Yeah, because he had his own opinion,

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which is what I'm now did.

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He did it by keeping the book together and he gives his own opinion as to what is authentic and what in his opinion is weak in in the sooner.

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Something to finish off with.

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Who's heard of Mischka to masabi?

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Come on. That's the first elite book I came across in my early 20s

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fat that's the only because that was translated in English by Roxanne I think I remember in the central library used to go to like a SWAT used to go to revise for my air levels, I think. And I remember in the Islam section. That's one of the books I used to look at and read her isn't it?

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And that's very, very famous. miska miska from wasabi. What does it mean? Muscat means like a niche or an alcove masabi headlamps? an alcove of lamps, lamps and leaf.

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This heavy book, many people use it as a source because it's available in English. So you can easily refer to it. Yeah, it doesn't even sometimes you put the Arabic with it. Other times we just have the English. Yeah. This was originally written in the

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fifth sixth century.

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On the title of masabi, as soon by Alba hawi,

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Emmanuel badawy, muhandis and Mufasa is famous tafsir is tuxedo bubbly, which came before a few 100 years before tafsir is like a tea for example. So that's always known as

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a professor Mohammed, more of a collector rather than he's not doing topic himself so much meaning property myself I'm doing. So he decided to collect Hadeeth in his though, the lamps of the Sun

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masabi asuna lamps with a leaf.

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And he divided each chapter and he put the headings on the chapter like Bukhari and Muslim wood, starting with the man knowledge etc. And then all to do with the other issues of akam washing, fasting, Salah, etc, etc, etc, very comprehensive, as much as but he divided each chapter into two sections. In the first section, he put only halifa Bihari Muslim or either one of them or both of them

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without chains, so you don't call this book of the

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look of source of these have to have the chain all these of the chains. Anything without chains is not a source of these. They've taken it from elsewhere.

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You follow me?

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So it's a collection of a D. So here he did he put colossal Isola lolly and then for at the end, Bihari Muslim mojari are Muslim. In the first section on each topic. In the second section, he took these

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from the sooner from other sources. So there you will find a Buddha or maybe a dozen doesn't say whether it's authentic or not or anything, just put some collection together. Okay.

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Now a couple of 100 years later cortiva tabrizi comes along and he takes the masabi sooner and now he puts it together, expands on it. He adds a third section in each of the chapters.

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01:00:00 --> 01:00:17

Easy. He again is not a Mojave of a critique of heavy, more of a collector. Again, he's not doing it with a chain. So in the present muscato masabi, which is by tabrizi, but it's based on a previous collection, it's not his original Ababa when

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he added in the third section, other hobbies

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so in that is weak, very weak fabricated no clarification.

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Shall Barney does, you know to sort of have Michelle to massage as well he does clarification of a very acidic, authentic or not authentic. He published that by him a whole lot.

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So this is about miskell masabi tabrizi builds on it, but tabrizi the only difference he does besides giving the reference of where he got it from doesn't give a chain but he gives the name of the Sahaba so you'll find on Abdullah said the promises from said this is almost said the prophet SAW slim said so you just find the name of the Sahaba which is copied from there. But Moscato Masami, when we talk about sources of Hadith, it is not a source book of a beef source book. So the beef are the ones that came with chains. Yeah, I'll be happy, who came later talking about fifth sixth century of a dominant and exactly much later, for example, Southern obey happy has changed mum

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be happy. He was changed for his family.

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So any of the collections of these that I'm talking about as a sources of abuse and others which have not written here, most of him the other result? And the result was very early on even before Mambo Hari.

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Abdul Razak, Sinani from Sunnah in Yemen. Yeah, so I've got a Zack masana because he classified his ahaadeeth collection with chains into topics.

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That's why they call it more sun. So more sun of the resort

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others as well, which.

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So that's mostly about giving you an idea of what the idea of SAS sector is, and what's behind it, who are the people.

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Amongst them are critics of these, like, Mr. Malley, like number 40 and Muslim like the likes of the movie, and society and others are not in my ultimate critique of Hades.

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And their critique of the vif is of the high high caliber.

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Mr. Mohali used to say about his teacher Ali of nun Medina who I mentioned before

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there's only one person I feel small in front of me in regards to knowledge and a decent critic, he said is Alina Nadine and his teacher used to say the opposite he said he's never come across anybody like him and he's talking about a student

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because if I'm worried surpass them

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so much so that the oma till this day mama Holly is level, you know, of, of critique of Hadith

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is just amazing. Amazing.

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into getting the truth

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of was this really set by the prophet sallahu? wa salam.

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Okay, that's something else. Yes. What we'll carry on with in future just to give you an idea in Sharla, bring your notebooks is we will move on in Sharla to look at. I would like to say something about him another week. Next time. Yeah, you need to know when we're talking about arbaeen. And now we need to know one Amanda was to give respect to that. So something about a mum, no, we then will also look at

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his introduction to his alibi.

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Yeah, it's a short introduction. But we'll do a sharp or an explanation of that as well, because there's some very important things in there. And following on from that, I will have I will be saying something because he mentions Hadith, of course, in it to do with the arbaeen y decompiler by mentioning something about 40 heavies and this idea about summer in other examples, because actually hundreds of people wrote arbaeen 40. Why? What kind of things did they write who are some of those people? And we look at the idea of they

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fadeev its place amongst all of our scholars and the theme over the centuries. And some misconceptions to do with that. I'll explain all that before we go too deep number one, which will be in a few weeks time in Sharla of India Mahatma renea

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Baraka low FICO, any brief question before the end of what we've covered today,

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01:05:31 --> 01:05:50

Mr. Bahari, Mr. Alia madine is one of his teachers. He had many teachers but most famous one is Oliver Medina. Teachers are his shakes we who he transmits relief from and those who actually taught him the critical of these like Elisa Medina

01:05:56 --> 01:06:02

sokoban Rahway, which he's muhaddith, as well, same sort of time, as

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Mr. Atma did the humble

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many teachers but one of his most famous ones.

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Anything else?

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Hope it wasn't confusing for you.

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It takes a long time to remember names and absorb this, it takes years so you have to keep repeating. That's why I said make note because when you refer to it, when you read more about it, hear about it again, when you hear the names again, they start sticking in putting this on the website. I hope once we were certainly recording it, once our people sought out the website and I've been chasing them for years. Perhaps we'll get something on there. I feel sorry for you all, but you can't access all the stuff we recorded over the years. A lot of a lot of people. I've only gone out our stuff at a low level in our local Rahim family.

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