Channel: Kamal El-Mekki
everybody heard lunch like I did
the word flower.
I was told someone brought me something morning.
Let me explain to you the hope. Okay.
Okay, let's finally explain that
there was a teacher at the school for like five years and the youth were getting to the level where now they're supposed to start giving up and start giving speeches. So we were supposed to instruct them on how to give a good speech or how to make your speech worthwhile. So like, given this analogy involved when I told him Look, a good speech is like a plate of variants.
You will understand if you eat at a generous person's house, there's a lot of meat there. No, you don't have to hunt for the meat. That means right there. And this is my problem with Brianne when you eat biryani at a stingy person's place, and it's so brand
new meat which is rice, it's spicy rice, and you get a hot hot hot when you see
me I eat a piece of meat that I have.
don't give people rice. You know, some people don't
know I know howdy brothers. We need to be good brothers must be kind. learners. Let's fast. Brother, give me Howdy.
Howdy, what's fast,
human meat, so your speech and meat in your speech.
just the meat. So the more meat you have, because when you eat this spicy rice, One hour later, you're hungry again. People come on Juma and they want you to help them learn something, nourish them spiritually. Give them a lot of meat to just come from rice, you see. And so that's where the whole banana thing came. So from there, it became apparent my dislike of banana if a non generous person makes it and all you get is just rice. You have to hunt for me. You know, I like my meat to be right there on the top. I have to be clear and visible. It's talking to me. Hello. Here I am.
I don't want to hunt for my meat. What is this? So, so that's the whole idea. So I don't have any problems. But again, as long as the generous person makes it. But if you want me to go on a wild goose chase looking for a piece of paper. I'm not interested in that. So it's not that I hate vignette. dislike it I can actually eat it. Anytime you want to go right now let's go but
your speech should be like that. Don't be scared people rise like others. We should be good. But we should be nice to meet a given ID keep fill people spiritually nourish them, and then send them off. That's the whole
No, no, I promise you have forgotten my poem today.
But I think I've memorized another one. It's a bit shorter though. It's a it's a it's a friend of mine. We used to eat a lot together you know and
and actually stayed about
back then used to wait train and stuff. So he stayed a lot so me and this guy were like monsters. And and like he you know fiber like was in some town that I don't know. I bet they basically he knew all the restaurants
at the corner of this and that he's like, you know, if you go to blocks, there's a good restaurant. So then he got married, and I got married and we never eat out together again. So
I told him, sadness fills my heart and fills the sky. Marriage forces us to say goodbye.
The sun has risen, but it hasn't shown. You know I don't like to eat
whenever I was hungry or was in the
calling you was like dialing one 800 food.
You had extensive knowledge of every branch and location, even pricing, menus and hours of operation.
Now we don't eat, and we don't mean goes, I wonder if you still eat like when you were single.
And we used to go to this place, phenomenal Afghan restaurant and they had something called choppa, which is lamb chops, but they were the best place there. So I said, so give me a call sometime, if you can eat some
snack at the all you can eat, let's make them suffer another defeat.
I'm still waiting for that day when somebody just puts that on YouTube or something.
Usually when I give the speech the cameras off.
That's what we're gonna do.
Okay, let's get started. Shall I want one other method? So what do we have as methods right now, all the ways that we've mentioned.
quantifying the argument
using the flip side of the argument,
and making analogies comparisons to dounia.
statistics and facts.
One equals to link it to why we do that it's
not about the specific small action is linked to the greatness of a larger agenda. Or the sometimes you shame people out of something like the guy who says I can't be important.
Okay, there's something sometimes you might encounter some of the weirdest arguments. And so just like when a Muslim comes to you with something weird, would you tell them?
What's your name? What's your proof? So you can actually use this with other people. But one time, this guy, again, this is an example of when you encounter someone that somebody you've never heard of before. So I kept asking him, you know, what is?
You know, I say this, because that I see something else, he brings these arguments that I've never heard of before in my life, they don't make any sense. So the easy way is to go to his or her source. And then let's talk about where you got this information from. And then let's look at that in detail. and prove that that's false. That way I get rid of all your arguments. So when I want to do with this person, in this specific case, where did you get all this from? It was really weird, then, how do I tackle this guy?
One accepting this information. Okay, where'd you get this from which book was teaching? So he basically started to say some gibberish about it being
no analysis of contemplation about certain historical events. So so you may have
made it up, you know, made life easier for me. Sometimes when you're doing biblical discussion, they make things up. Like when
I was asking this one person, I was basically taking him through. So I said,
Did you know Jesus? Obviously, these are questions that are no, they have to say yesterday, is Jesus co equal to the Father equal? Because they say less than
or equal? So was he did he take part in creating the earth? Yes, the earth, the sun, the moon, the stars, as part of that? Did he know that he was going to be sent down the diaper people center with just like, you know, you just opened a piece of paper, and that's your mission. And he suddenly found up so he knew he knew, even before the earth was created, that he was gonna go and die for people's sins. All right. So then when he was put on earth, He wasn't forced and pushed into this mission. He was accepting to do it. Right. He has to say yes, because it says no, that's obviously a lesser God being forced to do something he doesn't want to do. So then, okay, so while he was on
Earth, was he aware of this idea? He totally forgot who he was and what the mission was.
All right. Why is it then
that when he was about to be arrested, he said, he goes to the rooftop and he makes the audience's father let this cup pass from me and let this not happen to me. So before the earth was created, he knew he was going to come and die for people's sins. And, and he knew what he was on earth and what Adam was created and how things were happening. And then suddenly, when before the beat the arrest, one of the events leading to it. He said, Let this not happen to me. And then he was put on the cross with
As you say,
I was waiting for steak, it would mean why have you forsaken me? He knew this was the plan. How can you understand? What's the problem that already? Why would you say why have you forsaken me forsaken you? That was the plan before he created the earth. He was there according to that. So you know, when he said that the guy said it was the human, Jesus, Jesus. See, that's just an excuse, right? So and I know that I need to say no, what's your recipes? Oh, really? That's very interesting. Never heard that before. And which verses this? And
it's not in the park.
Okay, look, let me tell you.
This, the problem we have is that when there's a description is that you always add these things, you make these things up, to justify your argument, when it comes to Jesus, like when someone is named, referred to as the Son of God in the Bible. You don't take it literally, right, just like Adam and others refer to as sons of God. You don't take it literally daily, and so on. But here, when it comes to Jesus, you take it literally, here, it's literal. And that's what it means. And so, you know, make up things like over here, who's the human psyche? Here's, where do you get this from? And you don't, it's not from from the past, you just make that up. So and it's not like, you know,
the, the human side takes over in the gods it takes over. It's not like, we're talking about Dr. Bruce Banner or something. The Hulk takes over. And then the human side thinks of what are we talking about? So one time another person gave me another argument. And they said that it's like,
it's like, you know, you come into work. Now you got out of bed in the morning, he didn't want to come into work, but you have to come into work.
That's why I said
he knew he had to do it. But he's like, didn't want to do. Yeah, you're talking about someone that you claim to be a god, who's gonna force him to do something he doesn't want to do. And he, I have to work because I have this weakness, right, I need to work. And if I was a trillionaire, you think I would be sitting here talking to you.
Say that, but that so you're using the wrong comparisons always say, what's your source? Where'd you get that from? That also helps you a lot, because a lot of stuff that's out there is made up it if I can't tackle the idea itself, because it's attached, it's linked to the source. Let's talk about that source who wrote this book, when you're the surface. And you know what's so perfect about it? What What about it makes it that it couldn't be written couldn't have been written by any human being?
read the Book of Mormon.
There's nothing about that book that says, a man couldn't have written nothing. And even this information in it, if you want to argue couldn't have done all the historical, but it's still stuff that's attainable by men, a man has to gather that info, no matter how and where they get it from, it's still material, it can be written by a man, you know, we looked at before, and it's not material that can be gathered by or written by human beings, even today. From from you've probably attended some lecture or another, where it's about the grammatical miracle or grammatical stub or onward, this word here with this letter is here in this verse, but it's taken off in the next
person, just that letter missing here, what does it mean? And how much you change the meaning. And it's just so so phenomenal that no human being could sit and think this letter out letter word, and for the next verse, and it's going to have this meaning. Unbelievable. And of course, if you pause here, it means that if you pause, they're just incredible. But nothing about the Book of Mormon Bible or other Scripture says, You can't, this can't be have been written by a map. That's why you've probably heard and seen some of these experiments were unfortunately not like documented and maybe one of you might want to do this. There was a guy, he would just bring monsters in a room, but
he didn't videotape.
He would just beside it across each other. And then he would ask them, How did that make you feel? He doesn't tell him. Look, I'm gonna tell you for art or Word of God, to just sit them down beside a cookie and then say, Okay, then ask them interview them. How did you feel? Hungry? The stuff people used to tell? Most of them will talk, I think, I don't know what your said, but it made me feel strange or made me feel good and made me feel calm? Or they would say,
No, those weren't the words that a human being I think those were the words of God. One that tells him I think you're reciting the words of God. And I think it's talking about the attributes of God.
Imagine that one of the Messiah should come into it for you guys know. Yeah.
He did this thing. I watched this, but he was recently in Denmark or one place up there, I can't remember. And basically, he went up to anon and some other guy in the street and he says, I want to, I'm going to recite some things to you. He said, he has a very nice presentation. So he starts to recite regular speech. And it was a boy, his name was Muhammad, he went to the market, and he bought some apples, but he recited it like it was the same way. Same voice, same tone with him. And then so now I'm going to recite something else to you. They don't speak a word of Arabic. And he starts to recite
this, is there any difference between the two recitations? The non tells him, yes. Look at this, people don't speak Arabic. The first one word, the word do, do it just normal, no impact, like words of a man. And I think the second ones were, the second one was the word of God.
Imagine that, just you just felt something there, you know,
you know, maybe I told you the story of the story of the day that was done, the missionary was disrupting the diet, the Dow table.
So basically, these people have dealt with some Muslims. And this guy just kept harassing them, trying to stop them from reaching prospects and dismissing problems and jumping in with a dime. So then one of them got upset, pull them took me to another room to sit up, sit down, give them a copy of the foreign translation in English for meetings.
He said, open any page and re open just a random paint store theory.
And he asked him that looks like the writing of a map.
open any other page, open other read, you've read that look like the writing of a map? Like I said, No, it's an open another page, anything you've read, he starts to read for a while. So look like the writing of a map. And he would answer this guy raise his hand he was in tears.
You know, this story that I knew this story, then I discovered another person experience the exact same thing. You may have heard the story about a young girl. And again, it has happened to two people the exact same story is young girls who were 14, she got a copy of a program from her school library came home. Her parents were somewhere so she was locked out of the house. She said I sat down in front of the steps, took out the Quran, you want to read something started to read, she read. And that means that
why she said no human being begins his book with that.
This book that we're in, there is no doubt ever seen a human write a book like that. In the beginning chapter he says, There is no doubt about this entire book.
Have you heard that this girl immediately knew this has to be from reading one verse or two verses
on is so so so powerful, it is the most powerful tool, if you could call it that the most powerful. That's why the atheist if I don't have time for the atheist to hear.
The way you can read the Quran is because regular book way you might want to give them guidelines as to how to read. That's why don't worry about any book. Don't be scared of anyone.
Okay, don't be afraid of anybody.
look, let's do this. I've got
233 more techniques. But what I want to do now, we're gonna do some of the questions, right? So I'm just gonna read the question to us. And this is we need to do it like this, right? You're gonna keep your keep your reputations or your argument or information is very, very, very short. Now, I'm just going to repeat them out. Again, very quick. Just make sure you let me understand your main point. Once I get it, just stop that we need to do it. Because we have a lot of questions. We don't have too much time. We want everyone to want to get it, get it, get a quick run through. Yeah. So
it's also very good training for you to learn to be brief. A lot of times we are so used to long winded responses. Long explanations be very, very brief. Please raise your voice brothers, or sisters
and sisters. So brother when you speak it, raise your hand if you say out loud. And then we're gonna jump down to these points. So it says Look, if we're starting with is is that the number one thing so you know, maybe on the back of one of the pages, you're going to write one that's one argument two second or three
So the first one is the devaluation of the lamancha. And we've already spoken a little bit about it. Let's just get some of the points. Just give me a quick point.
So like, if you want to say this was common in the time of Arabia, you're just gonna say this was known at the time of arrival. Right? And go showed us what
Okay, so the argument the pedophile would not marry the childhood, the person that they would
have attacked him on, would have used that to attack the profit center he would have used against him. Yes.
So he consummated Three years later, so why don't you wait?
Don't Don't wait, why Wait for what? And soon? Yes.
Okay, so I've sort of gone into hot climates, people mature faster, and then slash I serve God alone herself said to be larger in her life for her age. Yes, she was engaged
for the engaged workforce, and she was spoken for, but someone else would show that it was common. Also, below 100 American consumed the daughter of it later on, she was very young, he was very old children. Nothing is wrong with that. Okay. Yes.
So who is the is his opinion on the Prophet said that she feel that, you know, she was a young child taken advantage of Was it a normal thing for her? Did she ever consider Oh, my age factor was an issue. never good.
Question, but I read.
Yeah, I had from
12 to 20.
But we're gonna start stick with our defending the younger age, because especially if it's 18, or 19, or 22. We don't have to defend that. So we're working on the exercise of defending How do you answer that? Is that all there is obviously don't need to argue for it. Which is another point you can add now, that if
you wanted a younger person only, why is it that the other one if some of them weren't? 1533 when the 33 were in their teens? And it wasn't it that all of them were young? What else?
Oh, sorry. Sorry about that. Okay.
Okay, so naturally one of our revert brothers, and he will say, Okay, why does a woman with puberty so early? I would still use that. So it's a natural thing. Yes. You had something
Limitations maximum. And there's basically guidelines, basically, the age or the limitation of health.
There was no limitation is that wisdom is the limitation itself.
What else? Was there anything else? Yes. Why this society is around to marry a young girl but young girls can run around half naked, or you can run around and get after.
Right. So that's another argument. The third, another one you want to add? You know, Who says that? This is, you know, your you again, what what? Besson that right? He said, you're using, like what you feel is right to judge other cultures and other norms based on your culture. But that's assuming that you're right, that 18 is proper. Anything else is improper? Who's Who says, best is directly addressed the issue?
Was the age of 1211 or 12.
Okay, I mean, I don't know.
If that's the case, then that's another argument.
Yes, last one.
Thank you, sir. Yes.
Okay, so fellas.
What's the next one? Please?
Why can't women lead the prep? Let's hear it.
I mean, leave men. Why can't women leave men press? Zero? Yes, sir.
Because they're What? Because they're lazy.
What can lead working ladies leave men in prayer because the girls
because there is a
responsibility of men and women.
different responsibilities, different responsibilities. Okay. We want to hear from the sisters. Yeah.
Sorry if you can raise your voice
or they wouldn't concentrate.
Okay, so they would concentrate, right? They wouldn't concentrate. What else? Just as please feel free.
Right. And it wouldn't be appropriate for the woman to be in the front.
He couldn't lead the parent so that the amount of relative is a woman she spent their time when she wouldn't be able to leave the breath. That's a problem comes up.
Yeah, where were the other woman goes? Okay, that's another issue. Yes, yeah, man.
Yeah, it'd be weird that if let's suppose we left it as men in the front woman in the back. But a woman can lead the men sometimes she'll be like, right up there amongst the men. And then there's men and there's women. It's just a really weird situation. Let's use the same argument now. Why? What aren't why weren't any women prophets of Allah? And I wonder sometimes will Muslim woman asked why weren't? they asked with like me? They are not the ones in Calgary. Mashallah.
But they argue with attitude, like, you know, they're objecting against a lot of work many women. Think about let's think about together. And yes, yeah.
No, that is not in the room.
Said men are natural leaders.
Okay, what is the last time there
was a woman? Okay, so so let's break it down. Nice and soft. Don't take it easy. Remember, sisters in the room? When is the last time a woman?
Let me let me put your hand Sorry, I exaggerate what you said. But let me put what you said in a diplomatic way. Say from the responsibility.
the responsibilities of the province applies also to be the leader of the army. And in this specific role, the woman would not be any good. This would be a good position for her as well. Some other points. Yes, sir.
Okay, that's also true.
He said the woman's reputation is easier to tarnish. And it's very true, right? That's why there's severe punishment against a man
accusing a woman of something with no witnesses. That's why he's beaten whipped, punished for that. Yes, sir.
Making slick and smooth, physically can easily be defeated.
So don't I do with my wife? I was like this.
She's like, come on.
Thank you, attorney. The problem. The prophets of Allah has gotten me PMS.
cranky. Come on people. I'm thoroughly serious. So it's weird when people say things like this, or when she can't leave the salon anymore or any now during that time of the month, she has to leave the armies in two months of journey. And it just doesn't make sense. People just asked without thinking, you know, if you think about it, it's actually unfair for a woman to be profitable. And she's pregnant for nine months and it's weird. It's weird.
The burden was so heavy some of the profits are below
had difficulty with the burdens and the difficulties they experienced. Yes system.
Okay, so I'm sorry, I didn't get
Okay. All right, excellent. So I'm happy that assister said that you know, and I have to say, you know, you wait more or whatever, but good should have ended there.
Exactly. You know, do you have to have a profit at some female? Does he have to be or what's the point? The point is the message comes to humanity and that's the point. So why is this again the radical feminist movement thinking that No, man did this woman do this? Why did the man to this woman can do the wiser man profit What?
So brother sings very good point. The whole point is the message of will our riches humanity, people go to jail doesn't matter if tribe began if profits came from this job without tribal or the spoke this language versus versus that language, you didn't even have people you might complain about? The Prophet spoke commander. It's not an issue as long as the message reaches people. But Okay, next point. Difference between Sunni and Shia? Okay, skip that one, I would make a circle or Mark around and come back to the next slide.
Okay, forgive me, and really, we're talking about polygyny, right? Is polygamy is just one one of the spouses marries more than the up which so polygamy included includes polygyny and polyandry.
And polygyny. Right male. Why is that permissible? quickly now, these are both short points. Yes. Yes. token ratio to one ratio to
reduce corruption. Now, corruption, reduce corruption and you're able to marry more. Right? Okay, great. We mean, you set up citizens against corruption in Calgary. Oh, yeah.
Okay, thank you. I will repeat that. Yes.
Easier to trace. Easier to trace lineage. That's very true. Yeah. Sometimes Muslim women with attitude? Of course, they're not Calgary. attitude and constant. How come? A woman can marry for kidding me? Are you serious about this question? And actually, there was something that some documentary of where they tried that woman married to
the whole idea is to take care of for men houses for different children, clean cook, and all that just physically impossible also, and lineage in one of the aims of the Sharia, by the way came to protect lineage. Yes.
Okay. Then we also used to tell people that how do you know who's the father? And now they have the audacity to tell you DNA?
They just have they just made that up. I mean, recently, How about yours for 1000s of years? How would they solve that back then? Sure. Now you have the solution. All right. Real quick. Yeah.
There is actually a couple here in Calgary who are happily married.
Ladies, and they had a chat with my uncle was an accountant. Basically the same thing, which we're talking about. I mean, they're two women married to each other. They're Muslims as well. Oh.
Okay. See? Children.
Yeah, see, I mean, look, when you go, sit, go, sit. You're sick. You're sick enough to study.
That's how it works. You know? I mean, there's there's a documented interview with people forget.
Yeah, I mean, it's still not like, like that quick, but okay.
If I can be an adult
Good for women. Men, they're barely getting their rights from one guy now for
Sorry, I can't hear you
to look up the verb
to become a second.
I love these topics.
We're trying to go fast now we stopped for
half an hour.
But you know, you bring up a good point. Yeah. If, you know, how does the period work? If she's still married to three other men just to go through it. That makes sense, right. Good point. Yes, sir.
The last one
has to be
Oh, no, I
want to clarify these issues.
The first one is not.
Okay. Also cuts off avenues to evil.
I remember it, but I like to have sisters quickly did finish the first part.
A lot of times, brother, that is just a macho thing. Yeah.
You know, just the fantasy world that they live in. Take care of that one. We have severe severe problems. We'll take care of one one. No, like one speaker said. He said he needs to try to analyze the whole divorce issue. In the end. He just after years of looking at it. You know what his conclusion was? He said the men are just not real men.
It's true, isn't it? The men are not real men. That's all the stuff we do.
Last last last one, yes.
If they say, Well, why can't you just stick to one way
to control yourself from
to society that never no one is faithful in this society. They're either cheating reality or cheating with their eyes.
No one is actually faithful. They say the wife here.
Okay, so you're falling back into look, in one way or another. It's actually happening. No one's really one woman.
Okay, last last one, because it happened in the last lecture in Toronto.
And the reason is like, I'm just thinking like, what would happen if the human population grows? Because in India, if you look at it now, it's 6040 ratio 60 of women and 40 of men so how would you compensate them. I love you concern for the
Excellent, you know, he's thinking Calgary's thinking, India.
Great, you know, one time, this one shift and don't get me started with that
said this woman in a lecture actually said this woman came to me to do this now Mr. Q Would you marry for women? And all that is because of sex?
What do you think? No one is for chess. One is for ping pong. Yes, it's there. You know, just like, why did
this whole 70 virgins and so when you when you look at it, like you mentioned that? Yes. And that's why you had some speakers that that went.
They went, you know, when Whitby after 911, right? When the guy said that, you know, the rain is actually a cotton flower.
You heard that
some guy in the States, very, very popular.
So he said, that
we went into cutting flowers. I don't know what you're planning to do with it.
What on earth is this?
Do you talk to the flowers?
So but you know,
look, let's end.
Now I don't have time to stop in every argument to say, Look, he's using this method using that method. But you're getting the idea from a different
religion markdown, in this show, we'll come to later.
what came before? what came before God? And the answer is nothing. And if they see how we can wrap our minds around the people, and there's things in this dunya, we can wrap our minds around. So you don't insist on wrapping your mind around this one issue and you won't be able to, and we can take it back to our appointed boss and said, Look, this situation was there. He was always there. How? I don't know. But he's there and you're here. What are you gonna do about? Right?
You're not allowed to ask. But this is anonymous. He doesn't have that. So yeah, you're right. Brothers saying that certain things. We don't ask how the last one is done. We don't ask how do you don't ask that? And I'm just gonna ask you, how do we know how come nothing came before God? What have you, we all know the answer to that. Next one.
Okay. Now, why does God worship? We did that one, right? We did that one, correct.
Evolution, do evolution now. Okay, let's hear it real quick. There
is the wrong word. There's still monkeys around. And basically, his argument is How come these monkeys went after them that they didn't evolve into human beings go extinct. Animals go extinct.
The Missing Link? Yeah. So you know, they tell us that, you know, the fish became this. And this became that and that became this, but they don't show us the middle part when they're halfway between because the missing link also between the eighth to him all these things. So it's, and by the way, it's called the world of evolution. The theory of evolution. When people tell me big bang theory or theory of evolution before I've discovered I say, you know, the theory is, what is the theory?
Not really met, but theory.
Yeah, it's like, yeah, it's like, basically, it's conjecture. It's like a scientific guess, you know?
Yes. It's not proven. It's not fact. It's not like a hypothesis that you can set up an experiment to test your hypothesis whether it's right or wrong. You know, that right? You can't set up an experience and prove it. You know, any scientist in the room?
Okay, I right or wrong? Am I right? Or am I not wrong?
Thank you. These are the choice