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How To Give Shahada In 10 Minutes 3 Of 8
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So I got to load
him up in Halloween.
I mean, I think he was
always my least favorite part of the day is apart after lunch. And I do always have people dozing off. So when you get sleepy,
feel free to get up or first of all go and come back again. I've been saying that for years, I've yet to see someone do it.
So if it doesn't work crumpled piece of paper and throw it out to publicly embarrass.
You just get up refresh, we'll do we'll come back, get coffee, get to water, whatever it is we used to do.
And usually after the lunch break, oh, telephone, I'll say one of my poems on food. So
just to get me started. And everything I've said before.
We'll do another one tomorrow. But today, there was a friend of mine used to eat together a lot. So I wrote him this
Oh, and you can stop recording.
So I see you coming in your
eat and drink is what your work. Your only talk is what to eat. This type of chicken, that type of meat. This type of food that type of dessert, you eat until your stomach hurts. Follow the sun now I'm sure you've heard filled with food to about the third. But you eat the whole bird the whole chicken. Your only soon enough is finger licking.
I came from I only have two religious poems and five on chicken and
there's a there's a DVD, CD, audio CD one of my favorites laid out is by chef woody bassoon. Don't get me started on shuffle.
It's called a message from a non Muslim or message from a newsletter.
You can get a hold of that it's produced by chin RB.
You can get a hold of that. Just fervency. Basically,
what I liked about it, first of all, is they did a study, the chef made a study before he just made the tape. He asked a lot of spoke to a lot of reverbs, you know, a lot of
questionnaires, and he found out the things that they go through when they become
and he put them in the audience's voice. It's as if it's anonymous, it's a new Muslim complaining to the Muslim community.
And these are actual problems that they go through a message from a non Muslim
So you know if you can get a hold of that and listen to it, and it will help you deal with non Muslims back to their lunch and they were telling some Muslims want to say the weirdest things during Dawa, remember one time this guy became Muslim. So they had an affair for Ramadan.
And this, this other Muslim other river wanted to sit next to talk to him about the and stuff. So I kept telling him, and this guy just became Muslim like a few days ago, you saw him in Islam, for some reason, he just chose to explain to this guy, this new Muslim. And this is how he worded it. In Islam. When we can't find water to clean ourselves, we clean ourselves with dirt.
And that goes, I see. Okay, what kind of relief? Did I get myself into? What I take dirt and clean myself? He doesn't understand that. You know, it's just a quick walk through the face and hands. That's it. Maybe you got to take dirt.
So, yeah, so you listen to that David discusses things like this. So you don't need discovered as a community really,
you know, this whole thing. It's a community project. And it has to do with a lot of issues from from the patient's from therapy or from wisdom. And so many times you know, this new revert might make a mistake and stolen the uncle might smack him after the sell off. Because, you know, why did you do this thing correctly? Three days ago. So our community is not even really ready and able to accept and receive these new materials and will lead to complaints from I remember one time this guy took a shower
and just look within minutes the order that all the disagreements that he went through within minutes. So the
First guy came, shook his hand, congratulations, because this guy came once, congratulations. And the next guy comes in three times.
And then the next guy comes in three times, and he tells him the profits or loss enemies dog three times. Okay? So then I was watching this core guy, the next guy comes, and he starts hugging the guy three times. And then he says three times, right? The guy doesn't know once.
Or the thing about, you know, remove the golden, the guy comes
to take the gold off
how some, some rich guy became Muslim in the Philippines, so invite everyone to his mansion. So during the dinner, he's passing out, you know, food drinks to everybody. And those guys similar to the chef's, tell me about the golden gold grid. Yes, he became a star in the morning. This morning, I became immediately wanting to take off the gold ring. But you don't even do things like that when it comes to you. And now I'm Muslim, born Muslim practicing. You tell me what you did is incorrect is actually
and they resist, they won't change, and you want this guy to change his life overnight. So there's a lot of wisdom involved with dealing with numerous message from an industry to get your hands on that.
during the lunch break, one brother said that one time he was lowering his gaze and talking to two women who was lowering his gaze and talking and kept laughing, probably assume she was laughing at the idea that he was not looking at him.
So what do you do in a situation like that? I mean, basically,
what do you do there? And if you just ignore the laughter or the dress, who would ignore it ends up
with a dress, it
was just Canadian.
Okay. All right. So a lot of you undecided. Right.
But those who was addressing what would you say?
You teach a second grade teacher
saying you said he was addressing? Right. So I did address? I mean, address it directly? Yeah, yes, sir.
I like that. I like humor with these things. You know, like, you know, like, sometimes people tell me things like, you know, you know, just just waiting for the violence.
You guys have to do religion commanded killed, I always say, you know, for religion commanded is to kill people. We wouldn't be talking right now.
I don't do that. But I do say that. I just added that last part.
So, so good. So I like that. It's a joke. It could work very well, you know.
All right. Now? Yep, go ahead.
Okay, so that you can address it directly? Because the brother had a decent hunch that he was laughing because he's looking, he's lowering his gaze. So then, then address it. Look, there is no script. I mean, I can never imagine myself standing in front, two people. One of them is just giggling and laughing our heart out at me. And I'm just not, I'm just not commenting. I'm following my script. There is no script, I'll stop and find out what she's doing what, you know, what's the matter with, you know, in a nice way. So, find out what it is. There's no script here. I mean, I just can't sit there and just giggling at me the whole time and I never addressed and maybe it's not
the gauge thing. Maybe I need to find out what it is. Plus, do you think someone who's laughing who's who ridicules you to the point where they're laughing at you might become Muslim? Probably not. Probably. So let me fix that issue. So if you think my religion is a joke, because what I'm doing most likely probably won't become Muslim. Unless I address that issue. So I address the issue. There is no script. Okay. And if you want and you would ask
us, whatever way you want to ask, are you laughing? Because I'm not looking at you. Or you may ask what's funny. You can use can say that.
You can ask what's what's funny.
doughnuts. All right, I can easily take all the dues and reverse them and say these are the don'ts. Right? I think there's only one repetition here because there's something else about it. So we
First, the first one second one, don't use annoying approaches. I'm gonna skip the example there is a funny story about skipping it. Don't be evasive. It's not the opposite of be straightforward. It is right. So I put it here again.
Because when you're evasive, it adds another element. What I mean when I say don't be lazy, and someone asks you a certain question about
the age of Asia, and then you don't answer that question, you move on to something else. They catch that they're not dumb. You'll catch them. And they'll think, Oh, I got him. And his religion doesn't have an answer for this. I don't have a good explanation. That's why.
So I'm putting it here because it adds another element.
Not being straightforward. Being evasive, it adds this other element that you have a religion with a lot of holes in it, you don't want to address an issue because you don't have a good answer for that issue. I remember one time this Dyer was being evasive. This guy says look, answer my question, we'll come to question. Usability in the desert, he has this analogy he loves he wants to use it, even though it's not the appropriate place. And that guy started to smirk, like, Okay, I got him. He can't answer me. That's why he's going on to something else. So he thought, in his mind, philosophy destroyed this Muslim. They don't have any strong arguments are just like us. We don't give a
Yeah. So by the way,
like, I would love, for example, the golden rule, you apply that, in that scenario, you don't apply it in every scenario. You know, I might, we might discuss, I might tell you the story of this person. And then I said this, and they said that they became Muslim. That's a specific scenario and happened to work. Now I don't think like I said, there is no formula no magic wand. So don't think I can just take this because it worked here and apply it over there. It doesn't work like. And so let's look at one issue with with
this is a true story. actual question that came to me, this man.
Well, actually, he asked, he asked chef, this question. So he said,
basically has an honest and frank, who said, there's nothing wrong with getting fornication and things of that sort. Because as long as it's done with the consent of the participants, and there's no problem with it. So the Muslim then cried a doubt technique from the prophets of Allah, he said, so it tells it would you know, this demonstration of this, I became, would you accept that for your mother said no, except for your sister said no. So he told him, would you accept it for your mother? It said, Sure. She wants it? Would you accept it free center? Sure What happened to with our consent? So the guy
who's dumbstruck This is a method of the profits or loss and failed? How can the profit zones method fail? So who put their hand up until this why this method did not work?
Excellent. So the sister saying the culture is different. And if you want to use instead of the word culture, something bigger than culture, that would be non
Italian mentality that what you're saying.
Okay. So, religion, right, the promise of the music technique with a Muslim, first of all understand common sense obedience to Allah understands all these things. And he was coming to get a rasa, like an allowance from the province. But it worked because he had all these, you know, he knew jealousy, envy, all these things he had. That's why it worked here. So the person the mistake the Muslim was making, he took a method, something that worked on the president used it on a Muslim, he was trying to apply it to anonymous. The person said, Yeah, he doesn't
have clout and punishments, okay. Yeah, she's consulting. And she says, Yeah, that's what I'm trying to say. Don't think you can take a technique or formula and apply it where it doesn't belong. It will probably work where it does belong, but not where it doesn't belong. Yes.
You're very right.
Sometimes you find books the exaggerate at a time. So the senior was ranking So, you know, when the problem came
from came to get the pledge from the woman after the country of Mecca. Amongst the things. The condition was that they did not commit Zina. So
she said, Oh, it isn't in hora, free woman COVID Xena.
Imagine gently a free woman didn't come in. Now look what's happening to the Muslims. So yeah, that's very true. So Deaf culture does hope. Yeah. But and I use the religion more so because you know, because now these arguments are just all over the place, you might find people here and there from this culture making the same argument. But Muslim, you are Muslim. And here now is the person living in this time, different culture, different religion. So what I won't necessarily be applicable, just as his take it from here, copy and paste. But so
what I meant by that last point, let's not push it technique is that it's a technique, it's just that an argument that you're trying to get someone to accept Islam, because he has the ingredients, or she has the ingredients, always a Muslim jumps in and stops, you know, don't push this, me pushing it. You're the one pushing, no one's pushing over here. So I'm just talking to the person. And you know, I don't know how it works in Canada, but in the States, you really can't push people. You can't, they will tell you in so many ways, if they're not interested, they'll tell you in French, and they'll use sign language as love. So it's not like you can push them into the kind of
You can. So it's just, I'm gonna come back to this theory, perhaps why these people don't status.
Okay, very good. This is one of our discussion points at lunch. Never interrupt the person that's giving up.
And don't do this one, you have your Muslim Awareness Week, and everybody's going to be involved, even if you're not officially someone standing by the door to
my right. Yeah, because you're inviting people to it, you're letting your classmates know about it, you're inviting your friend, you're saying everybody come even though you're not speaking, you're not possibly giving demo, but you're helping in front of the room or part of this group and on campus. So what happens is that a lot of people are excited, everyone wants to give that what everyone's got this little fact about sizing, and they want to throw it in. So we've got five people in a circle around the non Muslim, he's in the middle, and then all of them are interrupting each other. And he has to follow all of them. Because a lot tells us to looking around everyone saying
one word, and he's trying to get a pay attention. Or he might feel intimidated. And everyone's interrupting. And remember, we said, we're not just throwing information at people like we described, what a month and a half ago, that you're taking people through an organized thought process. And so in order to do that, I can't go from here to here, if you interrupt me, take me, take us over there. Then you taught me again, we'll go over here and then I try to go to the next stage you take us somewhere else doesn't work like that. And the story goes there, there was this event in a Masjid. And I was trying to give out someone talking about Oh, hate working our way to
the profits, the fillers, and there was an MD doctor and the sky basically they have some scientific fact and what chlorophyll
is itching just to get it out.
This will bring them to snap. So I'm Tom Duffy drops me. I don't know where the where the thought is that when you no matter what I'm talking about, what how does it work when you just interrupt someone, then they're giving that you interrupt you jump in with some some fact.
You don't do that with anything else in life, you know?
Anyways, so this guy jumps in talking about chlorophyll. And he was just waiting for me to breathe. So he could interrupt me while I'm catching my breath. When I was talking about this, the miracle of green cloth from the guidance. So
then I'm waiting for him to breathe.
And only he takes his breath, I jumped in the middle. So I was going back to the topic was saying that this this that then he's waiting for me. I mean, I catch my breath, he jumps in with the boat for full again, I will get rid of this guy. So until finally I saw my partners because if the partner was there, he would fix it immediately. That's why it's so good that none of my partners were there. Then I saw one of them from the district and all we had to do was lock eyes. And that's it. I have to when
he saw me he knew what was going on. He can immediately pull the doctor side.
So don't do this to each other. Don't interrupt, you have a great point you're itching to get it out. Guess what is 1001 other people you can go tell them about it. You don't have to drop this guy, and you're gonna come and ruin my couch. I worked hard. I cut this guy he was walking. I caught him and I'm stopping talking
You go catch your own guy, go get your own prospect and give them down. All right.
But unless like what's a very good reason like the overlook a certain point, the prospect ask them a certain question, but they didn't get it. But you got to ask you fix the answer that question. That's a good reason to interrupt somebody
to get into a negotiation, which is, you know, I think you I think, next new generation, you don't have to deal with that too much. But with all due respect to the older generation, oh mandate, negotiate so much. If you ever been to an interfaith with some older people, the night night, they have no clue at one interface, you know, and they just make it a negotiation where you know, you that's all good agenda, Hey, you got agenda, good agenda, and they just start to negotiate. But of course, we don't negotiate in Islam. And the laws of difference across its own
sort of column was too low to the, you know,
they wish that you would compromise with them. So they would compromise with you. But we don't compromise. That's why we almost was like Catalonia.
came after the offer they made in worship your God for the day, you worship our God for them. And they said a week, they said a month and they said a year. And you know, after a year of worshiping Allah, they're not going to go back to work, some stones
still refuse, because we don't negotiate.
I think it was another point about.
Yeah, I mean, there's some things like I always tell about how this guy is addressing a bunch of amounts. And he said, You guys need to be creative, new techniques. And he told a story about how he used to go with a coffee friend, and the counselor would ask for champagne. So that will get on apple juice. So he thinks I'm drinking champagne. So it is an innovative way of giving out. Okay, I need to understand what's so innovative about that. So this guy is supposedly going to become closer to Islam, because you can boost up
while he want to become Muslim, if he sees you drinking, and you think, oh, he's drinking champagne. Maybe I can become Muslim too.
So, but that's just again, this people trying to negotiate trying to water down and make it look like Christianity, and that might entice the Christians to join. You know, historically, that has backfired severely for Christians when it comes to the pagan faith. You've probably you're aware that there are many pagan practices in Christianity Today, how did they come they're the Christian art back then thought it was in the interest of bringing people into Christianity to make Christianity similar to paganism. And SubhanAllah. Over the years, the pagan practice had lived, and the Christian went up, like, you know, Christmas, you know, bringing a tree and decorating it and
all that stuff. pagan practice, pagan date, 25th of December, even similar to a pagan goddess or Mithra, or mythos that would have the sun and all that. So and then even though clearly in the Bible, it says it's not permissible to bring a tree into your house and decorated and all that. So it's a bit odd by their standards.
And but again, same thing with Halloween. The pagan practices are what lived in nothing Christian remains Easter, so many things. So the point is, some Muslims try to do the same thing with doesn't work that close to the water does not make it look like Christianity that might bring the Christian Well guess what, if you make a sound look a little Christian and they have 100%
Why should they feel compelled to enter to snuff? Don't give up too quickly. If the person you know, seems interested.
Don't just give up too quickly. Sometimes, you know, we've encountered people that were just being, you know, sarcastic or, or they were like,
you know, smiling sarcastically things like that you keep going. And they end up becoming Muslim actually, at the end of the talk, versus what if I saw him, you know, smirking and trying to be a wise guy, and then just walk through it. So it makes more sense to keep going with it. Don't give up that quickly. All right, once you can get up I really can't tell. Sometimes you give up a little bit before think good things might have happened. And sometimes you give up exactly at the right time, but we'll discuss it more
Again, this is kind of like what happens in interfaith, they told you know, Muslims believe that the Christians went to paradise it says so to the Quran, the Jews also enter and then that that's were falsified information in the Muslim sits down, the Christian gets up says, well, we're all you know, children of God. Therefore, I'll see you when you get to paradise. Now we're all lying to each other here. So a lot of people there.
confused, they think that in order to coexist peacefully, you need to agree.
You don't need to agree at all to live with people in peace. All you have to do is understand each other.
We don't understand each other, there is a fear of the unknown. When you know each other, eliminate that fear, that's the end of the story. So you don't have to agree in order to live together, peacefully, just understand each other. So if I lie to you and tell you, we think you're going to paradise.
And then you lie to us say, we're all children of God, we're all gonna paradise. And we're not. That means we just, we don't still walk out from that church or from that building. Still, we don't know each other. That's why make sure and exaggerate information. So you may have heard this story by some Muslims, Islam gives the women more rights in there than they're given in the West right now, is that a true or false statements?
False, not true, they can increase your rights here that really don't even belong to them these rights, they have given them these rights in the West stomach, given these rights, and logins and the rights that they deserve, but they went overboard. So it's not a true statement. It's an exaggeration. We don't want to exaggerate, we'll tell as it is, we don't need gimmicks ever to spread. But what I'm saying by change the method, not the message, it's that same message, it comes to you through internet, audio tape, CD, you know, Speaker live speaker microphones down the street, our university, whatever it is, but the message is the same to come through video, radio, but the
message is the same, that the method can change, not a problem.
So this came about one time someone was telling me there's something on the table, and maybe we're not saying the right thing. But if you're talking about two hidden pillars, you for sure are talking about the right thing. Maybe you need a different method. That's it, something to attract them.
yeah, I think we discussed that. That's the that's the
interface. Don't make misrepresents nice lumps. It's simpler. Okay, what if someone comes to you and says,
you know, what will happen? What do you believe will happen to us Christian?
Somebody asked a question.
Thank you. I don't want to word it differently. Same meaning, sir.
Sorry. You will not be resurrected.
It will be Christian will be
Because if they won't be resurrected
as a Christian
if you don't submit to the will of Allah will not be accepted.
Okay, good. Yes, sir. Any Christian Muslim to atheists or anyone who dies associated partners with God? And
I like that. You like what the brother showed us?
He added Muslims, which makes it like stop saying just you never heard that before. But it's good. Anyone else like that?
Thank you, sir. Thank you very much. Nice. Okay, sister in the back. And then we'll come to you.
Oh, sorry. Sorry. Is that what you were gonna say? He's saying that, that, you know, you know, anyone, whether Muslim, Christian Jew or so, who died, associating others in worship with a low, we'll go through that with five. So even put Muslim, which is a true statement. So he's saying it's not just us versus you. But now, let me tell you something. Most of the time, when a Christian asks you this question for a second, let's say it's a Christian. They're really just trying to see what you're gonna say. They're just trying to see if you have the guts, because they know the answer. You think they don't know the answer? Do you really think they don't know the answer?
You don't you? Do? They know the answer. More, most likely Why? Because they know that just about every fe believes they're right, and everyone else is wrong. If they're right, they're going to paradise and everyone else is going to the other place. Because if we're the only ones who are right the world going to paradise, it really means we're all right. The new this concept people it's not, it's not going to be worth it.
They know it. So they just try to see how brave you are. How are you going to word it that you're gonna be diplomatic or not? If you ask them where the Muslims going, guys will burn in hell. You know, when the rapture comes, we'll all be raised to the cloud. The Muslims will be nuked. All the nuclear stuff is gone. We come back to earth and lift
it's gonna go down
just in a nice way No, we need to we need to note here that you can't tell them where they're going right in general we say in general you know Jews Christians we're not good but we don't say this guy won't
and I can't say you know george bush will go to the Hellfire right? I can hope
he can't for sure say this go go to that you can cook collectively as a group people who commit
don't make the customer comfortable with this coffee This is Rwanda dot made this is just really good. If you tell them when you're good for you be alright to go to Paradise. What's the need
to for them to become Muslim?
Until you know, the Quran says using Christian will enter Paradise to become Muslim. Well, now you just give me the deal.
Don't make a judgement based on loads. Have you ever have you ever done that? You looked at someone who said then I don't waste my time with him. ever done that? Anybody?
A few people? What would that person look like? You want to share? And what was it about them?
None. Okay, homeless guy, okay.
Same thing, okay, anything we just felt that
Gothic kind of thing, black on black, black nails, black teeth, everything.
classmate what was
a dental commercial?
teeth, you won't give them down. You don't want to talk to maybe a bad breath. And
by the way, think that say your friend when it comes to doubt. Have mercy on people.
Okay, all right. So you know, so you know what, remember the beginning that he doesn't have to to feel. You just have to direct people to the truth that your job doesn't matter what they look like, doesn't matter. And the example I get because this guy really looks strange. We're a movie family March, this guy called pale white guy, big guy, wearing a sleeveless shirt, got tattoos from his neck, all the way to the wrists, all kinds of devils and all kinds of great things. He's got a 14 year old gold. He's got bandanas, piercings anywhere, you could put one on your face, right? And White contact lenses, white content. Just imagine what this guy looks like. Pale Blue, gold
piercing. Welcome like this. And I saw I took a look at him. I saw him coming. And then I looked over here, I saw man and his wife. I saw the birds singing, I saw the butterfly.
I waste my time with this guy. I actually looked at it. I don't have time for the shirt on. And I went over to these guys. I spoke to him for a little bit when I turned my head. A brother was calling us to hear him take the shot. He said I got out of bed today searching for a loan. That's what
I've been searching for online. And he just referred to some Muslims getting down. He became Muslim quickly. And then he was telling us this. He said Look, I don't want to just do this right now. Forget about it. He says I want to become a good Muslim on and learn to pray or to become an excellent Muslim. I lost out on that good Shahada because based on books, so I learned from that day, what the person looks like, I'm gonna give him that.
I don't care if they have
a telephone pole through their nose. Okay.
All right. Let's look at some of the techniques we have in the room here.
you don't have
another brother comes like you're talking to another brother observes. He just
doesn't know bro.
Number one guy, right? Yeah.
Another guy comes I think maybe three. Probably, at least in the states three is not pushing too much. I don't know what it is Canada. But three is not bad. But if when you see four or five and you're alone, right, but someone across the room from the other table sees five people in your
Someone, he might actually go to them and he knows they're the other four spectators might pull them aside. We don't want more than two people crowding around one person. That's it. But if it, what if five people crowd you have no partner and so on and so forth? We're gonna do
I know we can't make a rule. But I feel like bang culture here. People get offended or intimidate one one person because that is what the Mormons do, you know, they ought to, and it could be like, like a battle, you know what I mean? It's like they have to people have different hands.
Well, I would advise you to not take my opinion, I would advise you to test it out and see how that works. And,
and you might even do a survey with Muslims as well. You feel uncomfortable, because we are Canadian. You feel uncomfortable when two people talk to you? And because right now we're just we could go off of your hunch and my hunch, but let's let's test it to see. I don't know Canada will enough. But I'm hoping that two is not really a big problem. Okay, the rest of you people feel them, too, is a problem. Put your hand up. Three is a problem. Put your hand up.
no problem with any number. Okay. You want to add something? Yes.
Much more emotional. Like,
the last time someone like came up right to my face and just started, like, likely being honest. And straight up was actually Australian.
What I meant by that is, it was actually
excuse me, it's just like,
you get a sense. It's like, Okay, what are you doing here? You're gonna make him feel uncomfortable. I'm just waiting for
the spectator just to jump into some random point. Yeah, I know. And actually to go to the iPhone, comfortable like that as well, especially now.
Let's see what the command is saying. They're expecting me to be saying stuff, laying down the heavy stuff on the guy.
And you see, all these brothers are so smooth. Like I'm talking over here, over there. See a brother from the engine like this.
Guy reading the paper, right? They're
saying the exact same stuff I'm telling you right here. There's nothing new.
With the New Jersey, it was our shop on Saturday, Sunday, we went off to some street down broke into groups and stuff. And we come back and we reconvene at the end of the day. And all the groups the pairs that were telling you what to expect the number of shots basically, was the number of days back then. So one guy who was a young kid, and you know, he attended the workshop and everything. And he's just waiting for my group to say what the number. So this this group, watch this group, and I'm watching this little kid, and then it came for our groups to come on your group. And then this kid was just
waiting, anticipating and we said zero.
And zero. Yeah.
I've got something phenomenal that I didn't tell you that you got to sneak up behind me and hear it off. That's how he does it.
The rest you do your part.
Saying that basic stuff like that you address it? How do you address the issue? Not being basic?
Just to give an example, a specific issue, right? working? Let me let me work on these issues. We're gonna come and answer that with Shut up. What I'm trying to do right now is tell you that if someone does ask you a question about an issue, you've addressed that issue. Don't try to run around and escape. How we address the issue. That's when we're going to discuss later. But for now, what I want you to know is if someone asks you a question, don't escape it. It looks very bad. So answer the question. You might say well, I don't know the answer.
I love when I do these things that oh my jokes like I just don't find that funny.
If you start to, you know, affect each other with their negativity, there's two good splitting apart if you can, if you can find talk to them, you can talk to 50 at one time, if you want to solve an issue that, no, it's not.
Yeah, it's sometimes not everything is within your control. It's not like you can always get the idea that our situation, sometimes you start talking to one guy, and he's actually there with 19 of his beer buddies, and they're all hammered, or whatever. And what are you gonna do, you can't always get it the way you want. So you just you deal with your situation.
You are talking about like going out in groups, what is the minimum number of brothers are actually going in one group and the maximum break up into groups of two pairs? One, two, that's it. But your whole crew, you let's say you took a bus of 50 people to hit a Central Park in New York, big place, and then they break up into groups of two.
Okay, but then when you come back,
we're just sharing, you could have in a mirror if you want, but we just talking about, we all sit down at the insistence of God come and sit and talk after the event. Because if we're at 10 groups, and we all spent one hour out there, if I get, you know, this person says this group tells us the report, this guy asked us this tough question. This is how we answered it, or how do you think we could have answered it, and then we all put in a good input. So when you share with all the time, whoops, talk about the one hour of experience, if you got 10 hours of experience, from their feedback. That's why By the way, if you look at any salespeople in the audience, men or women, right
now, I don't know which kind of environment you work in. But a lot of times, you'll find that within a sales team or sales force, they have the short cubicles, the cubicle wall doesn't extend above the desk. Purposely do that for the sales team, by the want the sales team to talk together. They also sometimes give them breaks companies, where it's you know, sales oriented, they give them lunch break together, they want them to talk so they can share different techniques. So we use the same technique with DOD, I want to hear your experience, I will learn from it, you know, and, you know, I learned your way in this way. Honestly, that's why Tomorrow, I will ask you how you would answer the
question. And so many times, I will hear such a perspective that I never considered before. No, over the years, I've got some excellent responses to things that I never considered. So I benefit from your experience, and you benefit from my experience. And then just like the sales team, the sales force. So that's good. Do you have some sort of like arrangement, just like with the brothers? Do you also recommend the same stuff?
I mean, most of the things that we're talking about today, and tomorrow can be done by brothers and sisters. Okay. Like, I wouldn't recommend sisters have a weekly or daily table in front of a metro station or bus station.
But I mean, I would recommend they do that in a property, school or a safe place, something like that. But generally, for the most part, most of the things that the men can do, the sisters can do.
Sometimes there's some things to tweak here.
Here's another question your sister.
A lot of times
whenever they want to ask a question.
That's it. That's the right way. I mean, there's nothing you can do beyond that. No, no, no, not no question is offensive. And no question is that is not a good question. And that's what I'm here for. Feel free please, to talk to me. Just like that. use their name, do all these things, smiles, do all these things that will get them to try to try to open up to you. So that's it. There's nothing beyond that. I know that you could do.
Okay, but let's look at some creativity over here. You know, handshakes. I'm talking about men with women and woman shaking hands with men. What are your ways of avoiding handshakes? Share with us? Yes.
You know, that's actually one of my jokes that I tell
the guy who said that woman
she doesn't want to try to shake that hand. So you got to sneeze. Okay, can you do a good sound?
Good, sounds nice.
It sounds really
good one and you put glue between your hands
Okay. All right. So you must walk around with the full bag all the time.
Something that I improvised.
I use a lot
in my culture, not to shake hands, these hands.
can't have broke, but so
he's going out the other route they explain. So now let's hear specifically some explanations. So just explosions for now. How would you explain it verbally?
The job interview
because of the sponsors.
Nice because of Islam's respect for a woman. I don't shake hands with. Nice, what up?
Yeah, so this brother is a poet.
Especially Yeah, it's very nice. What are the explanations?
I said, this brother says I don't have the right to talk to women. And this is very honored and respected. It's kind of nice. He doesn't have to go through the whole list. And you know, we can you can shake hands with cousins. No, but it's kind of nice and quick and very, you know, I don't know what the word is.
flowery. Anyone else? So, please forgive me.
Okay, good. What else? And how does that work for you?
Wait resistors to say something. What do you say? Because you could say the same thing. You know, this number no love to touch and shake hands with the opposite.
Okay, and that will work. I think most people understand that. So it's a religious thing. And you're politely apologizing that you're not going to be shaking my head? he'll accept that. Yes.
Sorry. No, still, even if you're worried.
now, of course, please. Any I know one time I asked what we're trying to think of creative alternatives. 1000 guy put his hand up said Well, sure. So and So give a better word. It's okay. I understand. It's a federal verb. We're trying to be creative beyond I'm not trying to be rude. I'm just trying to say we're trying to be creative beyond the federal because I just said the beginning. Avoiding handshakes. Yep. So and So said there's a photo you can check out. Okay, next point. But I'm trying to be creative here beyond the federal system.
Okay, so maybe the sister saw that these are a little apologetic. And even though others amongst us might see it as just an explanation, but you might have something you know, more of an explanation and according to you less of an apology if you if you do feel free to use that. If you feel that yours is a bit apologetic, you might kick it up a notch or something like that. Yeah.
Okay, very nice. Yes, sir.
keep their hands busy. Haha, very good. Yes.
I was taking a class, hearing Calvin and Jewish guy sitting beside me. cold beer, practicing Jewish and teacher who's trying to shake his hand we're playing a role. And I'm very sorry not to offend you but religious purposes. I can't shake.
And then when she came to shake your hand, you said
Uh huh. There you go. Excellent. Very good. Excellent. Now,
there's some other people who used, you were saying that you occupy your right hand.
And you gave her say you give her something. And that's another method that we that were taught that this company,
he said when it was a Muslim company, so they said, if a woman extends her hand to shake your hand, you put your business card in her. And then you bring the Chinese attention to the car. So and it works. So wonderful. So she extended her hand and said, well,
you turn the attention to the card, because if you just give her the card, she might take it, and then put her hand. What do you do?
Walk on that company, we had cards everywhere.
then we used to ask them, did you notice that I didn't shake your hand? And they would actually say, No, I didn't notice. It's kind of like what she was doing earlier with, you know, look, looking, it's as if you're looking, but you're not, they won't even probably not even notice it.
And here, same thing with acid, you notice I didn't shake your hand and say No, well, actually, because of religious reasons. And you explained, and because of that, now you've explained and save yourself from the goodbye handshake. So it works well. So if you do have a pamphlet, fine. Now what if you don't have a password, you can do this other thing where you, you occupy your right hand. And you don't make any effort to free up your right hand. And so and you stoke the greed, because there's a greeting with the handshake, and there's one without, so if you caught someone's like this, you might expect them to quickly flip your right hand and shake their right. But what if you
come up to them like that, for example? And you say, Hi, how are you, I called you on the phone, my name is so and so. And you're doing this like very clearly I'm not for suppose even your left hands in your pocket, I'm not making any effort to free up my right hand, you know, and you will actually see see them, they will look at your hand, and then they start to flip the right hand and then they leave it alone. Now, I used to work somewhere a lot of sales, people would try to come in and get our business and one of them a lot of times sales woman would come and you would see them because it's part of sales at from handshake. And I would occupy my right hand and they would start to put
the folder on the other hand when they see I'm not making any effort to free my right hand. And they just talk and they would say goodbye without trying. So you could there are ways we can even stop someone from initially putting your hand up psychologically. Also. Now as the brother was saying when you have your wife with you or your husband with you, there's no need to shake the other person's hand because your wife will save the day if a woman lunges at us and if a man tries to you save the day
just want to stay awake after lunch
All right, so that's as far as the handshakes How about how about
anything else that I forgot what the handshake
and that's why you try to keep your explanation is nice and sweet as possible and in the end what are they gonna do if you're one of those people who want compromiser What are you gonna do? You're gonna
offend them and offend a lot at some point. No good.
sensitivity and much more. Yes. Actually. More interesting A lot of times when
we actually ask
people because they don't want to offend someone else. Right, very good. Excellent. So it's very true. We go to an Arab country new foods to shake
What am I
gonna say these things to me you're saying
and, and one time story.
And they shake hands.
Yes, that's true. That's true. So basically, what if
What if sometimes you refuse to shake? Well, I have a lot of friends. And
they shake my hand.
I'm actually a kind of Muslim, I'm called fundamentalist.
So what are you gonna do right? To work somewhere? You have to shave your head now, you said, Well, my boyfriend is Muslim, and
he's got a girlfriend and you use him as an example, a role model. Now.
You deal with these things all the time
a respectable scholar, woman, young girl became Muslim. So she says, I want my mother to meet you tomorrow. He said, Fine, just let her know that we don't shake hands in Islam. So the next day, the girl brought her mother, and her mother came to the ship. And she said, My daughter tells me you guys
don't get what it means.
who likes to use the name a lot? Put your hands up.
Okay, and who likes to use God?
And who uses both?
Excellent and who gives no doubt whatsoever?
Okay, so look,
I mean, I love to use Allah, but I also use God's mission. But there are two things I want to talk about very quickly on this point, one, why some Muslims don't like to use Allah. And to the benefit of using
some Muslims don't like to use a lot because they think the non Muslim might think Allah is some other God.
So this is going to be happening for a while. Oh, okay. Anyways, some Muslims think that if I say Allah, they might think I'm talking about some other God. So the answer to that the remedy to that is just a quick 15. Second disclaimer. So you just say, so a lot of these profits, and by the way, a law means is the same. It just means God, an error is the same God of the Christian, same God, the Jews just means God. If you go to a church in any Arab country, the Bible says a lot. And they say in church, a lot understood, understood.
The problem, that's it. And by the way, there are very few people who, if any, who believe this whole moon God thing, so most of the time, people understand that Allah is God. It's just a name of God, Arabic explained to them like that. And you can feel free to change your energy go between using the same God as well. The thing, that advantage of saying a lot is that it sets you apart from everybody else. The Jehovah's Witness knocked on their door and said, God, you know, this person, you know, Mormons knocking, they said, God, and when you say, God, you sound like, you need to submit to God. Well, I do submit to that need to submit to allow, feels like I need to move towards
it will set you apart in your speech from everybody else. I mean, I don't you don't say Lord, but imagine you said you need to submit to the Lord,
on the lower part. So there's no rule that says you have to use a lorry after you've got us both. But if you're afraid that you might misunderstand who will give a quick disclaimer explanation as
to why Fine, fine, we can we can go even further from
this, whatever this brief will suffice to come to life not you can
the word God has been mentioned a lot. Yeah.
Okay. Okay. clothing. And this is I'm trying to get something else out of the discussion.
Suppose I'm going to give streets that I do, but suppose I'm giving a street down?
Well, you know, I don't know if this works for Canada this question or not, but let's let me take it to the US. You can just guess here. All right. I'm not really interested in what the answer is just want to get to another point. Suppose we're going to give that one washington dc
should boom and how many people think you will be more effective if I put on some white film versus some paths which I
thought was more effective on will think it's more effective, I put on pants and a shirt and
those who didn't put their hands up? I don't know what you're wearing.
Now, you maybe you think well, both are probably the same. We think they're both equal.
Okay, you know, what we found from collective years of collective I just
we thought there isn't really much of a difference? Not really. Now I know someone knows thinking, well, I can think of a scenario where if you were in a film, you could get shot, probably a scenario like that.
And at the same time, I can think of a scenario where if
you come off as more, what's the word I'm looking for?
credit? Yeah. So the truth is, yeah, there could be some weird scenario. But in general, we didn't find much difference.
But actually, believe it or not the slight edge we found in that scenario that I mentioned, not saying put on a film and stand in North courtyard. But I'm saying, in that scenario that I mentioned, we actually found that there's a slight advantage to the film, believe it or not, because people think of you as a little bit more credible. And think of you as clergy within your religious system, someone with the rank, even though we don't have rank. And at the same time, that also brings you down. Now remember, I said that one time, one guy said that was just can't believe that. And he next Friday, he's wearing a film and some non Muslims, and he said, Tell me, what is this
about? What is this religion? So that though, does bring it out? And you know, I remember one time I was at a restaurant, he said, Are you a rabbi? Say, yeah, I'm a black rapper.
Alright, can you be aggressive? Sometimes?
Who says yes. Put your hands up? Who says never put your hands up?
Okay, you can't be aggressive.
Who can give us an example from the seller when he was hard one time? Yes.
was coming to him.
Was he aggressive with him? Didn't you grab him? shake him? Don't do it next week. Please. Shake anyway. So any other times you can think of in the setup?
You're right. Okay.
Okay, any other thing?
No, there wasn't it wasn't it was actually very gentleman.
Oh, no, it wasn't like that.
Like, I don't want to see your face. And it was actually the president said not, because he's a profitable law didn't want to do any injustice to achieve. So he said, make sure I don't see you. Just so that because the person was so hurt. But what why she did that the product because this is the profit of a lot of people. He didn't want to even grimace or lose a smile If he if he was smiling. And he saw a heat and the smell disappears out of the Prophet of Allah that's very, very harsh and very hurtful. So the President was so detailed and delicate, they didn't even want to frown at the face of what she if he ever saw him, because when he sees what she he will remember the
hurt, his face will change. That's how detailed the problem was. He didn't even want to affect him that much. That's why I told him, you know, don't let me see you. He didn't mean you become a symbol. I don't want to see your face ever again. That's not how the contract so it was actually very gentle.
Anyways, the idea is sometimes or the debate is, in a sense, aggressive. You know, I think I tell the story of the drug dealer in DC. You know, we're trying to get him down. He's just being so arrogant. This guy is talking to us about bricks. The bricks are
kept bugging me a brick becomes a brick. He said a brick of cocaine.
Apparently, that's the wholesale. I mean, they break it down into the retail.
Anyway, so we got really aggressive with this guy. And he just constantly making fun of us at his beard agenda. So yeah. All right. So I started to let him have it about the questions in the grave and so on. And so when we left, he was just standing just like
he couldn't speak. You know,
the brother said at the shop come out of his comfort zone for anyone to sometimes it can be sometimes, but generally it's it's an invitation. It's nice and sweet. It's kind of it's you know, it's gentle. And you know, some of the best laughter we know there's a best because the care process was the best because he cared. Even when they harmed him. He could have retaliated, he cared. And, I mean, that might sound a little bit, you know, wimpy or whatever, but it's actually the truth. Those who care they're the best stuff.
One of the best doctors and VCs to say these are my people, I love them
and want to come into the salon. That's why he worked better than we did. Because he can.
Alright, what's your time looking like?
340. And we start with five.
So how about this, then? 350? We'll take a 10 minute break and start at four. Okay, so I'm going to be the timekeeper.
Okay, walk away points. Do you know what they are? I can't give you any, any guidelines whatsoever. You may do something. Yeah, sure, if someone is intoxicated, you walk away. They're crazy. You walk away for sure. If they just want to simply argue.
They just want to argue for the sake of arguing, you might want to break it off and say, Well, you know, nice talking to you. This is a reading material. And we're here, you know, for the rest of the week. Same place, feel free if you have any questions, and you break it up, right.
But I'm also afraid to tell you give up too quickly. Because there's one sister she's to never give up. And she would send me a message with her partner, you know, come help me out, man. Look, he's being difficult people and go on to someone else, which doesn't. And then every time I look, she's still giving demo. And then in the end, they're calling me to tell the guy hate to say the chat. So I learned from her don't give up too quickly. So you will have to figure it out. When you walk away. When do you walk away? Exactly. You you'll know when you walk away?
Sorry, I can't hear you. If you're
Okay, well, I mean, there's, I mean, I guess we need to define how I mean, it says turns but we have to, let's say, determine if the person is tipsy, or hammered or wasted.
All these other terms that they have,
I think probably keep me as
I can't give you a photo. But as a brother, if someone's a bit tipsy, you keep talking to them, if they're with their mental faculties are there they understand what you're saying? If they're a little bit if they're beyond, you know, understanding and tomorrow, they won't recall any of this going on? Okay, what is asking about? You know, tell me about the form of that? Sure.
So I wouldn't waste my time if someone's beyond the point of comprehending what I'm saying. But as a sister, especially, I mean, I think in your scenario, you didn't say that you're alone with the person, right? Because obviously get out of this guy's drunk already. That's not a good situation. But if it's a public place, he's a little bit beyond comprehending what you're saying, don't waste any time.
Contact them and say, tomorrow on the soap or on
the cold shower, in some coffee that talk to somebody else.
So what else?
If you look at the if that mentioned,
they all say,
code to the way of your Lord
Illa whoever calls to Allah, so
it's telling you, it's an indication that there is a cluster, because you call him to Allah.
And what is for a lot of religion, it's not about you. It's not about your ego, you don't get personally offended. If someone and this is the key. If someone refuses to take your athletes, you don't get upset if someone you know, you know, makes an argument and he's just trying to, you know, and he's got an ego and he says something that attacks your pride. You don't get offended, because it's all about. It's all for the sake of advisors. That's what was the most important part. And you're the most important thing.
But of course, it's also one of the most difficult things as well. So set out doing it for the sake of the whole week. This whole week is for the sake of I'm calling to the religion of Allah, to the Dean of Muhammad. So therefore, if the person refuses, I did my job. Okay. It's not about my reputation as a W, you're going to be the best daddy out of the students that had the largest number of shots. That's why this whole number thing doesn't work. Not only does it push you to get cheap quality shots for the sake of counting the number
But it's not about you. It's about the religion of Allah.
And that's why there's lost so many things won't won't matter. So many things.
Your title, the name of the poster, all these things don't matter if it's for the sake of Allah. So, the good news is you can always refresh your NEA and renew your NEA in a snap. So for example, you're, you decide, okay, for this whole week, I'm going to be giving down with the MSA, some awareness week, it's all for the sake of
Tuesday, things start to creep into your knees, right? Because you got one or two shadows, and then all the brothers, wow, you're the best amongst us. And we all want to spend some time and learn from your techniques to get some your, your book and all that. So now things start to get to your head. Good news is Tuesday night, you can refresh your intention, renew your intention for Wednesday morning. And so constantly Don't let the * on come to you from this door. Always refreshing intention, renew your intention, remind yourself that it's about a lot. It's for the religion of a lot. It's not about you, your reputation or what happened. So
what are the
the first slides?
Thank you, sir.
Can I look Can we go to the first page
says in that verse, women to be herded only under Allah to him in to snow in the movie is enough for home.
So you cannot guide the blind from their strength, you know, you Only you can only cause him to hear, you know, the proofs the if you can only cause him to see these signs, or to hear the sounds or to know these signs, that's your job to direct them to that to let them know that.
we said that one
evil Gods for the sake of Allah azza wa jal. And at the same time, you know, the third slide there on that page, you see the rewards, if you see the rewards of doubt, and it just keeps multiplying, and keeps going on and on, if you bring one person to Islam. Another one is one brother's very business minded. And he showed me this idea that he had, and if one, if two people become Muslim, or one person become Muslim, he married and they have children, and the reasonable point is done within 10 years, the number of if suppose each, you know, they just get to children, the number of offspring, the reward that will be related to you is phenomenal. Within 10 years, how many people
have become Muslim because of you and your reward keeps going, then he does it like within 50 years, within 100 years, and comes up to be a huge number of people, you're in your brand, and you're still getting good rewards, you know, now, and but what if we
got one person through you, it's better for you than the whole world and everything that's in it are better for you than the best of worlds. If we really felt that hamster wheel we do we really felt that. Or that your reward keeps multiplying and multiplying, you teach one person so you get rewarded every time they pray. And then they teach them people salon, you get rewards every time these 10 people or these total 11 people pray. Now, if it was a stock that worked like that brother comes to use it as a stock just going to multiply despite your same way. But you have, it's going to close in one hour, you have to put everything you can in to act like crazy and get gather all your
money and put it in because it's going to multiply so much. What if we really felt like this about our agenda, and we'll give them how much they really Give. Give a tremendous amount of time to try to take these things to heart. Do it for the sake of Allah towards seeking the reward with a lot. So
let me see.
What if someone is being very argumentative? Not five minutes. What are ways you can stop someone from arguing with you?
Just like that guy. Yes, sir.
what? what he wants to go about? And then answer that question is like that. I've never heard that.
Or maybe just to make you
more confident about his argument.
I don't understand what you're talking about the whole time.
Maybe I can carry that back.
So that his thoughts so everything you say he argued, you know? So you say there's one guy but how do you know
In other words, it is arguing with you so much. So good. Okay, so you're saying what, what's, what are you really looking for? What's your issue? But yes,
Okay, but what but it's not just he's just repeating one argument. He is, which is your right if that was the case, if that were the case, well, here he, whatever you say just jumping on it. And with it actually took us to a place like this one time these two were arguing over every little point. And we just came up with one sentence every time we'd say it would stop arguing. Yes, sir.
Okay, and that would stop them from arguing.
Okay, but yes. What do you
what do you have to pull you up the game? We hope to gain from arguing with me like this.
Okay, anyone else? sisters? So we'll keep charging. Yes.
You're married sister.
I push it sometimes.
I don't know.
They're always wrong.
But they're still gonna keep going. How do you stop them from being argumentative? Yes.
arguing argue back? Are you actually letting him win?
Why do you think we're doing this?
Oh, I like that.
We can't we just missed it.
That's what we're doing. This was Austin, Texas. They took us to this place. Everybody was arguing, the minute you start to speak, they argue with you. So we just, were just ending it the whole day. We just don't people. Look, I'm not here to argue with you. And it would say, mean either guy.
What did you tell me? Look, what are the chances you tell someone? Look, I'm not here to argue. And they say, Well, I am.
There's not much of a chance. But some time it did happen to me actually. I thought it was all smarter than I am.
That makes life easier for me. Because if you're only here to argue, then we can't get anywhere. Because you're just gonna argue. If I give you the truth, you're gonna argue. So let's do this. This was a co worker. So I said, let's do this at another time, when you really want to find out what the truth is. I don't want to argue that I ended it. Because he just told me Look, I'm going to be a jerk today. So I'll kill it. But what the brother said, Look, I'm not here to argue most people, especially the stranger will say, Well, why? And he said, Tell me tell me if we did a number of times that one place and they would say I'm sorry, go ahead.
Go ahead. You know, that's it.
You start arguing you they you lose. You did what they wanted you to do. There's another way also we can just totally ignore the fact that they're being argumentative. Just take your Take it easy. Just take your time or let me finish the point. Like that.
So you're telling you that's an analogy to deal with argument arguing? argumentation, okay, great. You can give them that analogy as well. Very nice.
Oh, it's time to take a break. Sorry. Alright. It's break time.
This is a this is not a lotta This is a 10 minute break. Okay, this is the sisters want this break for me at all. Or I can just do what I do.
Okay. I mean, yeah.
But the organizers, they were saying they were gonna pray awesome. After we're done at five.
Yeah, not close. But if that's okay with everybody, then we'll do one hour then we'll do also. So this is a break 10 minutes.
There we go and I'm going to be here.