Hamzah Wald Maqbul – States and Stations 3 Ramadn Late Night Majlis 1444

Hamzah Wald Maqbul
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The speaker discusses the book of Ali bin Ruthman, which describes himself as a human and apologizes for his actions. He explains that satisfaction is a result of love and that "has inside" is the sound syllable of the heart. The concept of satisfaction is the end of a cycle and the beginning of a class of things acquired by effort. The speaker also discusses the concept of satisfaction and the relationship between it, as well as the theory of Sufism and the "has inside" and "has upon." The "how" of the language is discussed, as well as the idea of satisfaction and the concept of "has upon." The speaker emphasizes the importance of understanding the "how" in the context of the "how" of the language and how people react to the idea that everything is just a thought.
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We reached this,

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3rd night of Ramadan.

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So already more than a tenth of it

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is gone.

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And like that, 1 by 1, all the

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days are going to pass. So whoever wants

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to do something, let them do it right

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now and not think that they have,

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a tomorrow to live to or even if

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they

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do that Ramadan is gonna be there forever

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for them to do. Whoever needs to take

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whatever from it, let them take it right

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now

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and,

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not not delay.

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So we continue reading from the

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of the sheikh

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Ali bin Ruthman.

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It's a really interesting book. It's a great

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book. He, he's very human. He's not at

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all in any way, shape, or form like

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the kind of

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studio CD that you cannot touch him. You

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cannot, you know, like, get near him, and

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there's, like, 7,

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that are there to, like,

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bar you from, like, getting to him in

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any way, shape, or form, and you never

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see anything imperfect about them to the point

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that you have this about them that perhaps

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they're even more than the prophets are, alaymus,

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so how much people have about their,

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which is is is this type of excessiveness.

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If you think your sheikh is like the,

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like the sultan or whatever,

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even then, he's not gonna be Mas'ud.

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So this idea, this

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kind of popular imagination people have about the

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being, like,

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above blame and above reproach.

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In, yes, you should treat them

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you should treat them well, and there's benefit

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in it for you. But this idea that

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somehow they're divinely protected from error, this is

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this is too much. At any rate, so

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he first of all, he, doesn't have a

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crew who reads with him because he's in

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Lahore from before the time Lahore accepts Islam.

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And,

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Lahore is an interesting city, actually. The presence

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of the masha'ih was there for centuries from

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before the the city, has a sizable Muslim

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population. I don't even know if it actually

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has a a Muslim majority until the time

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of partition.

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Because if you talk to old people, they

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say the Anarkali Bazaar, which is the old,

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like, Bazar of of Lahore.

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There was only 4 or 5 Muslim shop

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keepers. All the rest of them were Hindus

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in Sikhs,

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up until partition.

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But, at any rate, he's very interesting. One

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of the things that's interesting about his book

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is throughout it he actually apologized for for

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it in the beginning. He says that,

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I'll put my name all throughout the book

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because I wrote another book, and someone borrowed

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it from me. And then they claimed that

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they wrote it and became famous for having

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written it, and I'm still, like he's basically

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still salty about that. So he'll write from

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time to time in his book,

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and he'll be like, for this reason, I,

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Ali bin Usman,

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Hajjwari, like, assert this or that. Said, it's

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not because I'm trying to pump myself up.

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It's just because I'm afraid someone's gonna, like,

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steal this book and, like, pretend they wrote

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it instead of me, which is kinda hurts

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hurt his feelings a bit. You know? There's

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a lot of, like, weird, like, things like

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that where he shows his humanity and his

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unguardedness. But at the same time, you can

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see the genius of, like, his

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his thought, how he understands things and explains

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things in a way that,

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another person wouldn't be able to, but then

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he also explains it effortlessly so that it

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makes sense

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to a person. So we continue, he's explaining

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the the tariqa of,

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and muhasibi.

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And,

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he's

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explaining the doctrine of of

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being pleased with Allah's judgment.

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And, he's going to then talk about he

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said that

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one of the peculiarities

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about

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al Muhasibi is, first of all, that he

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makes

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being pleased with the divine,

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decree,

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kind of the driver of,

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toward Allah.

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And then on top of that, he has

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this doctrine about it being a a state,

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a how that a person goes through rather

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than a maqam, rather than a station that

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a person has permanently, and then he'll explain

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all of that.

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So,

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he continues,

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says satisfaction

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that the hardship,

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consider the eternal choice of god on behalf

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of his creature,

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I. E. Whatever befalls him, he should recognize

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it as the eternal will of god and

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his past decree, and should not be distressed,

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but should accept it cheerfully.

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Again, this is, this is

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a

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together,

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which is what the idea that Allah is

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above time and space. He's transcended above time

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and space. The that Allah chose for us.

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Why is it that we're here and we're

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not somewhere else? Why is it that we're,

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you know, white or brown or black and

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we're not, you know, purple or green? Why

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is it that someone else has money and

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we don't, or we have money and someone

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else doesn't? All of these things, these why

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questions that people have,

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they're all when you realize that they're in

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the end of

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before the creation of the heavens and the

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earth, not chronologically before because that doesn't exist.

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Time and space are a creation of his.

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He's not trapped inside of them. So they're

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before

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they they're before the creation of the heavens

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and the earth in rational priority,

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not chronological priority. Meaning, Allah created the heavens

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and the earth. All of it was in

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his knowledge all at once.

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Today, tomorrow, yesterday, they're all the same in

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front of Allah Even though we're stuck in

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them with some sort of sequentiality

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that goes, like, frame by frame. So this

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is when you think about it that way,

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when you understand your properly,

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instead of having this kind of new Platonist,

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like, pagan

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that the universe has been around forever and,

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like, that god is,

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you know, somehow, like, somewhere in the sky

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and, you know, and this and that, this

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type of stuff. No. We push that away.

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These are the ideas or the conceptions of

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divinity of paganism. They don't fit with the,

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idea of Allah in the Quran.

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When you understand properly,

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you will know that,

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you will know that Allah

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because his transcendence above time, that his choice

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is something that's not

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it didn't just happen, like, through circumstance.

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It's something a lot more solid than a

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person really realizes.

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And it's, you

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know, it's from his

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his knowledge, his his omnipotence, and his his

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desire.

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Right? Is that he knows it's gonna happen.

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Is that he's the one who has the

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ability and is making it happen. And Irada

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is the fact that it's happening, and he

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it's not it's not like, you know, like

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fire burns without having really much choice in

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the matter.

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Like, cold freezes things without having much choice

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in the matter. Why? Because that's just the

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way they are. Rather, no. This is He's

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he's doing what he's doing, and he's doing

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because he wants to do it.

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And that all of these things are together.

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When a person ponders over that, they think,

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okay. Fine. Maybe this was meant to be

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this way for some other good.

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And

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chose it for me, and he's the only

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one that we're ever gonna have. So we

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should be pleased with it, one way or

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the other. And it takes people to think

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certain things that normal people don't don't usually

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think, but this is the of the,

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which is the sign of people being from

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the rather

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than being,

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from the

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not in the sense that, like,

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we have a different sharia than other people

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do.

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But, like,

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like, being a human being rather than just

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being like an anthropomorphic

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cattle,

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walking around.

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So he says, that when a person thinks

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of all things, that they

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should accept it cheerfully.

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Hadith al Bhasid, the author of the doctrine

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says,

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rida is the is this is the is

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is the quiescence of the heart. Rida of

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the sukun of the heart, under the events

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which flow from the divine decrees. This is

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a sound doctrine because the quiescence and of

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the heart are not qualities acquired by man,

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but are divine gifts.

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And as an argument for the view that

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satisfaction

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is a and not a matam,

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they cite the story of Utba Al Gulam,

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who once at night did not sleep, but

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kept saying

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to Allah,

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if you chastise me, I love you, and

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if you have mercy on me, I love

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you.

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I. E. The pain of your chastisement

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and the pleasure of your bounty

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affect the body alone, whereas the agitation of

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love resides in the heart, which is not

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injured thereby.

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You know the choices from

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Allah. Like a person is, like, happy that

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Firaun got drowned.

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In that sense, even Firaun should be happy

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that he got drowned.

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But if he knew that, then he wouldn't

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be Firaun. Right?

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That's what they mean by this.

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This corroborates the view of view.

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Satisfaction,

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is the result of love inasmuch as the

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lover is satisfied by that which is done

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with the done by the beloved.

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Says, during the last 40 years, God has

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never put me in any state that I

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disliked or transferred me to another state that

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I resented.

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This indicates continual satisfaction of perfect love. The

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story of the dervish who fell into the

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Tigris River is well known. Seeing that, he

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could not swim,

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a man on the bank cried out to

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him, shall I, tell someone to bring you

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ashore? The dervish said no.

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Then should you wish to be drowned? He

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said no. What then do you wish? The

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dervish replied,

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that which God wishes, what do I have

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to do with wishing?

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This is obviously like I had mentioned yesterday.

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Right? These are, like, weird people. The their

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love of made them kind of. By all

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means, when you're drowning in the Tigris River,

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go ahead and ask for help.

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But somebody is thinking they're preoccupied with something

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different. Sharia actually commands you should you have

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to save yourself. Right? But he was thinking

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about something else that distracted him from that.

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And so, the point is not necessarily to

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emulate the

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the the conduct of such people,

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which there's a nice story about that at

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the end of this chapter. But,

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it's to think about those things and to

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understand them. That imagine if he had drowned,

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there's khair in it. If he was saved,

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there's khair in it as well.

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And so the Sharia obliges us to go

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through the motions with certain things, But at

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the end of the day, what ends up

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happening is what ends up happening, we're just

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obliged to, you know, to try, to to

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put in

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to put in action the commandments of the

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Lord,

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which is what a slave does. And

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then afterward, what happens? That's Allah Ta'al's choice,

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So what the master does. So a person

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should not be excessively, like, frustrated. Like, why

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isn't this working? Like, I've been praying for

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40 years or whatever. How come I haven't

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become king yet or whatever? That's not your

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job. Your job is to pray 40 years.

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That's itself a a success. Right?

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It's not to resent and ask why this,

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why that. Just am I doing a good

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job as a slave or not? That's the

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preoccupation people should have.

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The

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have uttered many sayings on satisfaction, which differ

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in phraseology, but agree in 2 principles, the

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2 principles that have been mentioned.

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And then finally, he ends us out with

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a

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short discussion about the distinction between Hal and

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Ma'am, between

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state and station.

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You must know that both of these terms

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are common, in use amongst the amongst the

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Sufis, and it is necessary that the student

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be acquainted with them. I must discuss this

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matter here, although it does not belong in

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the present chapter.

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Maqam or station denotes anyone standing

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in the path to Allah Ta'ala, Tariq to

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Allah Ta'ala.

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His fulfillment of the obligations appertaining to that

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station and his keeping it until he comprehends

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his perfection so far as lies in man's

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power. It is not permissible that he should

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quit his station without fulfilling the obligations thereof.

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Thus, the first station is repentance.

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Right? So I wasn't making it up day

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before yesterday. Right? He says, the first station

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is repentance, Tawba,

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and then comes conversion, Inaba, then renunciation,

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Zuhd,

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and then trust in Allah,

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and so on. It is not permissible that

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anyone, should pretend to conversion without repentance

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or to renunciation without conversion or to trust

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in Allah without renunciation.

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Obviously, this indicates that there's an entire that's,

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like, systematized

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and that is, understood,

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by people that we don't talk about and

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we kind of pretend will, go away if

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we ignore it for long enough or whatever.

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But, there is an entire and there's an

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entire system that people should read about and

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think about, but it's not enough to read

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about it. You actually have to try to

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put it in practice as well.

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He says, Hal, on the other hand, state,

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on the other hand, is something that descends

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from god onto a man's heart without his

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being able to repel it

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when it comes or to attract it when

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it goes by his own effort.

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Accordingly, while the term station or, maqam denotes

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the way of the seeker and his progress

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in the field of exertion and his rank

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before god in proportion to his merit, The

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term state or how denotes the favor and

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grace which Allah bestows upon the heart of

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his servant, which are not connected in any

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way with the mujahada on the part of

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the ladder, with the mortification. He he he

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describe you know? Nicholson's a good translator. He's

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like the best. These are the type of

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orientalists. We don't have these anymore. If you

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go, like, take Islamic studies, NELQ, or whatever,

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they're all CTEEN people.

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And they don't put in the time and

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effort to learn English properly or to learn

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Persian properly, to learn Arabic properly, Turkish, anything

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properly. Everything they do is just time passed.

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Why is that? Abdul Hakim Winters once

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I asked him this question.

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And

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because when the 2 years I taught at

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the, I would try avoiding the head table

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because it's very stuffy.

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I'll try to sit with the students in

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the back and, like, pretend nobody knows me

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so I can sit back and relax. And

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you go, oh, and so they'll say, oh,

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no. No. You go sit with the sheiks.

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And so Sheikh Hamza is there and he's

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talking about god knows what and, you know,

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Sheikh Abdul Hakim is talking about god knows

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what. Imam Zaid is there, and there's, like,

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just like a bunch of dignitaries and, like,

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diplomats and government officials or whatever. So I

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just kinda try to stay quiet the whole

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time.

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I asked him this question. He says, I

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think the reason that the old school,

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orientalists were good, whereas the new ones are

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not, like, good at what they did, is

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because they had colonization

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as some sort of, like, divine mission. They're

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like, look. We have the gospel of Jesus

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Christ, and we have to give it to

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the, like, savage barbarians for their salvation.

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So they studied the deen with religious fervor,

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which is the only way a person will

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ever even learn Arabic, much less any of

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the other, sciences of deen. So his translation

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of Mujahadda as self mortification, what does that

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mean? It's a means, like, literally to kill

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yourself for Allah's sake and struggle. You're fighting

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against yourself. Right? You're fighting against the enemy.

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How do you win the battle? By killing

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your enemy. Right? If your enemy is yourself,

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that's kinda rough.

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So he at any rate, he's talking about

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the howl. The howl is not attained through

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mujahada. Is this the maqam is maqamat that

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that were aforementioned,

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maybe attained through,

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which says these are not connected in any

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way with mortification with on the ladders in

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the part of the ladder.

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How, sorry, Maqam belongs to the category of

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acts, and,

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how belongs to the category of gifts.

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One is, one is,

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and the other is. Right? The is and

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the is.

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Hence, the man that has a a maqam

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stands by his own, Mujahhadah, whereas the man

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who has a hal is dead to the

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self and stands by a hal which Allah

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creates in him.

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Here, the sheiks are at variance. Some hold

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that howl may be permanent, while others reject

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this view. Hayrat al Muhasibi maintains that howl

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may be permanent.

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He argued that love and longing,

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and contraction, qabl, and expansion, bust are all

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ahawal, they're all states. If they cannot be

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permanent, then the lover should not be a

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lover until a man's state becomes his attribute,

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hisifah, and the name, of the state is

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not properly applied to him. Him. It is

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for this reason that he holds satisfaction to

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be one of the ahuwal, one of the

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states. And the same view is indicated by

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the saying of Abu Uthman al Hayri who

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says, during the last 40 years, God has

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never put me in a state that I

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disliked.

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Other Shirkhs deny that a state can be

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permanent.

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Junaid

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He's

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kind of

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like the

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complimentary,

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juxtaposed and diacritically opposed

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Sheikh to Muhasidib.

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And,

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Imam Ahmed's tariq

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is more

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akin to,

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that of Imam Jannid

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The masha'if of the Mujdahidun,

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they're also masha'if of the tariqa. The reason

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their names don't appear on the, shajarah is

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because of Urlul. Otherwise, too many names go.

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There's a shorter connections between people. So as

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to save the the isna, it's for the

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barakah that that it connects to the prophet

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for the sake of meeting names so that

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the becomes shorter, they're not there. But Imam

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Ahmed is very clear, actually. Junaid is a

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a an even in his to the point

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where he was, had the licensure of a,

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that he's he's he's connected with the the

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with the, Imam Ahmed

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So Junaid said,

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states are like flashes of lightning. Their permanence

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is merely a suggestion to the nafs.

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Some have said to the same effect that

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states, Hawal, are, like their name. They vanish

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almost as soon as they, descend on the

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heart. Whatever is permanent becomes an attribute, an

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attribute subsistent in object,

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which must be more perfect than the attributes

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themselves. Right? This is talking this is a

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monthly,

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not discussion about, like, a falsify discussion about

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the the Johar and Arab. Right?

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That

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you guys read that. Right? You you guys

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read it. Right? That the the the the

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itself has to have a to subsist in.

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If the if the itself is impermanent, then

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it's not a at all, and so it

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cannot take attributes.

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All this stuff has applications in the study

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of Kalam, by the way. He says, and

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this reduces the doctrine of states, that are

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permanent to an absurdity.

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I have, set forth the distinction between state

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and station in order that you may know

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what is signified by these terms wherever they

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occur in the phraseology of the Sufis or

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in the present work. In conclusion, you must

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note that satisfaction is the end of,

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and the beginning of.

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So this is the genius of

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He's saying that, you know, they say that,

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being pleased with Allah's decree.

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Is it a is it a maqam?

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And the masha'ih differ with each other.

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What the sheikh is saying is that what

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when you get to the maqam of Rida.

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Right? Right? Remember what he mentioned yesterday that

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the shrine is greater than the gate.

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A person has,

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they're doing without the dunya because they're seeking

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something. Whereas the person who has has already

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arrived there. They don't want anything else anymore.

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The shrine is better than the gate. What

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he's saying is that this

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this attribute that the the has inside of

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him that he's pleased with Allah Ta'ala and

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his decree.

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This is the dividing line between

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That you've gotten to the maximum sign that

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a person who's pleased with the Lord's decree

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to arrive there, they've gotten to the maximum

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extent of their mujahada.

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And now afterward, what they experience, there's still

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word, but these are all. They're they're gift

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gifted by Allah for a

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person, taking up residence in that in that

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place.

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It is a place,

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of which one side rests on acquisition and

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effort and the other side,

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on love and rapture. There's no station above

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it. There's no above it. It is at

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this point that mortifications

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cease.

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Hence, its beginning is in the class of

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things acquired by effort, and its end is

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in the class of things that are divinely

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bestowed.

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And therefore, it may be called either a

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station or a state. This is the doctrine

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of Muhasabi as regards to the theory of

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Sufism. In practice, however, he made no difference

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except for that he used to warn his

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pupils against

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expressions and acts,

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which,

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though sound in principle, might be thought of

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as evil.

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And so this is remember the, like, don't

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try this at home, type of stuff. I

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mentioned he'll mention it at the end of

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the chapter.

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So, Mohseniyu was very careful because a person

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who's truly

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pleased with the divine decree may start acting

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weird.

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Like, really, it's weird. It's not normal for

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a person, like, oh, look, I got, like,

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shot. You know?

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It's not normal. Not, like, part of the

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normal human human human experience. Then we saw

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some didn't used to do stuff like that.

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Some of the companions would say stuff like

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that that time, but you see from the

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from the from the top of the pyramid,

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you know, the

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they used to actually these types of feelings,

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there's indication they used to come over them,

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but they used to

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hide them from people. Why? Because, otherwise, if

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that's the part of the that everybody else

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has to take their example, you're not gonna

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be able to take the example of somebody

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who's

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experience is so far removed from that of

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normal people that, that that you just can't

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relate to it.

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So he says he says that in practice,

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however, he made no difference except for he

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used to warn his pupils against expressions and

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acts which, though sound in principle, might be

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thought of as evil. For example, he had

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a a king bird, which he, which used

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to utter a loud note, Shahmuri.

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He had a pet bird, basically, that used

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to utter a a loud screech.

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One day, Abu Hamza Bardad, who was Harith's

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pupil,

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an ecstatic man, came to see him. The

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bird piped, and Abu Hamza also shrieked back.

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So what is this? It's just like the

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sign of, like, he was like

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like Majzub.

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He was like, what is Majzub? Majzub is

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like different than Majzunun. Both of them would

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be like crazy, like a normal, like a

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Kafir saw them. Majzub is someone who's the

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the akel is mahlut, like their ability to

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reason has become like mixed up, jumbled

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up. The majzub is the person who is

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so absorbed in,

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thinking about Allah to Allah that

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he no longer functions on on worldly logic.

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He's thinking he's thinking about things in a

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different way.

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And so what happened was in that time,

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there was a set of

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and

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that had, the doctrine of hulul that they

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used to say, I see Allah in everything

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and everything monism, which is

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like kufr. It's completely wrong.

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And so some of the some of the

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people who,

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made so much liquor that they didn't, and

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weren't able to control, these experiences that came

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over themselves. They would utter things

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that, looked

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like Kufr to the others, and God knows

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if they were or not. But, at any

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rate, the the judges didn't take kindly to

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it. So if you start saying, oh, I'm

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the hap. I'm the hap. Like, you know,

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someone might say, well,

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someone might say, well, this person has made

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so much zikr that they don't see their

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own nafs anymore, you know? And so that's

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all that's going on. He's not actually thinking

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that he's saying he's God. But it sounds

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like he's saying that he's God, so the

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judge is still gonna hang you for it.

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The judge will still hang you for it,

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and he should.

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Allata will sort it out later on if

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there's another explanation.

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But it's very unfortunate, and the didn't take

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kindly to this. So he mentions about Muhasabi

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that this guy shrieked back at the bird

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when the bird shrieked at him, which was

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something that made him look like he's one

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of those guys.

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And so,

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and so, Harith rose up,

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seized his knife, and said, you're a Kafir,

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and and

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would have killed him if the disciples did

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not separate them. So the had to save

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save, save Abu Hamza

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from the sheikh.

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He then said to Abu Hamza, become a

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Muslim or miscreant.

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The Murids, exclaimed, oh, Sheikh. We all know

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him to be one of the elect saints

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of the people of Dohid. Why does the

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Sheikh regard him with suspicion? Hayarth replied, I

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do not suspect him. His opinions are excellent,

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and I know that he's a profound person

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of Tawhid. But why should he do something

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that resembles the action of those people who

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believe in,

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in monism, the?

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Why why should he do something that that

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resembles them? And thus has the appearance of

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being derived from their doctrine. If the census

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bird pipes after its fashion, capriciously,

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why should he behave as though the note

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were the voice of god? God is indivisible

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and the eternal does not become incarnate or

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united with phenomena or mingled with them.

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Again,

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it's all.

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This is why we don't say Allah is

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a body in time and space and things

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like that. Allah

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have

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within time and space within the Hadith world.

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So, you

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know, he was upset and offended. And this

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was something

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that I read Kalam with. He mentioned this,

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Fafrudir Razi, who's, like, level 7 black belt

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of of the Ashari school.

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Once he came to the he came to

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the, pulpit,

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and,

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someone left a nasty note for him and

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says, you're like this, and your mother is

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like this, and your wife is like this

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is a complete like, just completely, like, went

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off on him in in the worst way

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possible.

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And so, he read the note in front

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of everybody, in the Masjid. And then at

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the end of it, he said, Alhamdulillah, fumal

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hamdulillah, at least out of all the things

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he said about me, at least he wasn't

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able to say that you ever said that

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God has a body and sits in a

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chair.

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So at any rate, so he says he

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says, if the census bird bird pipes after

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its fashion capriciously,

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why should he behave as if it's noteworthy

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voice of God? God is indivisible and eternal

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and does not become incarnate or united with

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phenomena or commingled with them. When Abu Hamza

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perceived the sheikh's insight, he said, oh, Sheikh,

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although I am right in theory,

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nevertheless, since my action resembled the actions of

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heretics, I repent and withdraw.

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May God keep my conduct. This is the

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Sheikna Ali Hajuri saying, may God keep my

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conduct above suspicion,

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but this is impossible when associates with worldly

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formalists whose enmity is aroused by anybody who

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does not submit to their hypocrisy. And,

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if you're a Sallik on the path, Insha'Allah,

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you're gonna have a lot of haters and

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some of them actually pray 5 times a

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day and have good Tajweed as well. So

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Allah protect us all.

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