Channel: Hamza Tzortzis
Salam Alaikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh brothers and sisters and friends,
and welcome to today's Sapiens Institute online seminar. And today we're going to be discussing something very important. We're going to be discussing the way of the prophets.
And this is an extremely important discussion because those who sincerely seek to intellectually and academically, share Islam, defend Islam, and educate other people
about Islam. They need to understand, we need to understand collectively and individually and not only understand but internalize that the best guidance concerning sharing Islam, educating others about Islam, concerning defending Islam is actually referring to the greatest people who walked on Earth, referring to the greatest human beings to have stepped foot on this planet. And these are the prophets of Allah Subhana Allah to Allah, because they were called by Allah, to call people to let Isla her Illa Allah
to call people to the fact that there is no deity where the worship, except Allah Subhan, Allah to Allah.
And brothers and sisters, this is such a significant topic, especially in the 21st century, especially in the environment of social media, and having access to 1000s and 1000s, if not millions of people all across the world. So yes, we have great opportunities for reward. But we also have great opportunities if you want to term it as such for destruction, destroying our own cells, destroying the dour and destroying the image of Islam. So we have to understand that with great opportunity comes great responsibility, as well. So I think it's time that we have this authentic discussion amongst the community concerning how must we be?
How must we relate to ourselves, relate to others and fundamentally relate to Allah subhanho wa Taala in context of the doubt. So before I introduce chef, to explain this for us, I want every single one of you to understand something.
When we engage in this work, we have to ask a fundamental question.
And the question is not is it halal, or is it haram? But rather, the fundamental question in our context, specifically, specifically concerning sharing Islam is as follows? What does
Allah want from me? In my particular context?
If you study and analyze this question clearly, is going to be it's going to open doors for you, with regards to open doors to guidance for you, in order for you to refer to the Quran, and to the way of the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam in the way of the prophets. With regards to sharing Islam, with your brothers and sisters in humanity, we have to ask that question. What does Allah want from me? What does Allah want from us? In our particular context, it could be you being on a debating panel, it could be you on social media, it could be you concerning the great work that you do behind the scenes in the Dow, whatever, whatever capacity you are involved in, concerning sharing
and defending Islam, ask this question, ask it every day. And this is the power of questioning. What does Allah want from me in this particular moment in this particular context?
And asking this question we remove will push you away from a reactionary type of dour, whether we just react to things but clearly thinking and it will remove and put a barrier to the kind of adoption of a reductionist theology because sometimes, when we're involved in the moment when we're involved on social media, social media, we're involved in the dour sometimes what we do we just react to things and only do we react to things but we try to justify it by basically referring to the Quran or the Sunnah, or Hadith of the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, and we justified in a way that is reductionist was reductionist mean that we take that particular idea, we take that
Hadith. And we remove all context, and we remove all other, more variables. And we just use it in order to justify our egocentric or egotistical reactions. And this is why it's so important brothers and sisters, that we start with first principles. We start with the Quran, prophets, and this is why today's seminar is called The Way of the prophets. And Inshallah, we'll, I'll be asking questions to the chef. And I want you all to ask questions to the chef, in order to get the best out of the chef as well, but also to get the best out of this topic today as well. So, just as a brief introduction to the chef, Chef, Yasser al Hanafy, he has a BA and an MA in philosophy and he is going to be
pursuing his PhD inshallah very soon. He is the Imam Ellsbury Masjid. He is a double alum graduate, and he has studied with prominent scholars all around the world. And he has delivered presentations and seminars and courses for prestigious outlets, such as Al Beleg Academy, and I'm very happy that Chef Yasser al Hanafi is here with us today As Salam Alikum Rahmatullahi briquette Allah come Salam wa Rahmatullah who want to start? How you doing? Good. How are you? handling that? That introduction was embarrassing to hear, but Alhamdulillah is gone. Now. I'm Mila. Mila preservation. So let's go straight into it. Check. So the first thing I want to ask you is, if someone's new to dour if
someone's new to get involved in our they've just started sharing and discussing concepts and philosophy or whatever the case may be. They're involved in sharing Islam academically, intellectually, what would be the starting point what would be the kind of Quranic first principle that you would share with them and teach them
some manual or human handling, handling it in it in a way that I live in for the delivery invited to center toward the city Malian Libyan Muslim Allah Karim, who early he was so happy to be a part of a Sega model vehicle full of our robot
was done. First and foremost, I would like to thank you for giving me this opportunity to deliver this message. And the second thing I want to mention from the onset is that the primary
the primary person that I'm addressing today is myself first, as my ears are the closest to me. So this is not I don't have an interlocutor here. I'm not addressing this to anybody is actually first myself and Insha Allah, we make dua that also benefits others. Moving on to your question.
Look, the dour, inviting people towards Allah subhana wa Tada.
This is, as you mentioned, it was the job of all of the Ambien. hardingham Salatu was Salam, as mentioned sort of Allambie Omar or send them in public and that was solid, it will know Hey, LA and hula Illa, Illa and Ramadan, every single Nebby every single prophet was given the revelation to deliver the message now Illa Illa Allah to the people. This is why when a Makita said, Whoever gives the hour of la ilaha illa Allah with the intention that they're following the footsteps of the prophets. Indeed, he or she has revived the Sunnah of all of the Gambia. Every single prophet, just by delivering the message now in
this is also a distinguished quality of, of our beloved Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam Allah mentioned in the Quran, here are you going to be in a little Santa Kosha he doesn't want to share on one or the other. Whether Allah He is any he will say Rajim monniera. The Illa Allah invited towards Allah is a distinguish is a Nisa of the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam.
And not only is this a distinguished quality of the prophets, but is also a distinguished quality of this ummah. The thing that differentiates this ummah, from the previous nations is the F of dollar quantum higher OMA, you are the best nation reject leanness, you have been taken out for the benefit leanness nom nom Intifada, meaning benefit for the people. Why you the best people that are more honorable my roof button when Allah mancha you call towards good and your fair bit from even. So, the previous nations they all they all worship. However, this nation has two responsibilities, number one worshiping themselves and number two calling people towards Allah subhanho wa taala.
I would answer by saying this, that if we if we intend to embark on the path of giving back
Well, we need to realize that Dawa initially is the word vifa and job of the MBR Alima salat wa salam. And we are there in it, we are the representatives. Therefore, the closer our methodology is,
the more chance there is of hedaya and guidance, the further and distant, our methodology is from the methodology of the Gambia, the more chance there is of God Allah of misguidance and this is one of the reasons maybe Allahu Alem, that today Dawa Alhamdulillah is increasing, but on the other hand, we have apostasy if that is also increasing, why is this not necessary postulating This is the reason I mean, this is something that we need to think the first thing I would say, is that we need to understand that this noble work of Dawa is the noble work of the prophets. Yes. And the methodology of the MBR is clear, is completely vivid in the Quran, how they address their people how
at the time of difficulties, and adversities they're, you know, tolerated, Forbid, you know, difficulties etc. So, I think if we discuss the first principles from the Quran, how the MBR DM was Salatu was Salam give Dawa and how the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam was instructed by Allah to give Dawa and this verse inshallah that I'm going to mention now this verse that will Amar the prophesy rune, the Quranic exegesis have explained this verse, as the first principle, the soul and the other, the principles and the ethics of giving Dawa so the this is our
Yeah, yeah. So to interject this verses, chapter 16, verse one to five
Yes, Surah Surah one verse one to five. Yes.
We will concentrate on not just one to five if anybody has got Quran even look at the verses after even the verses after we will need later inshallah. Yes. So 125 Then
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were in our capital, our cable minima. Okay, we're in suburban la hydrocarbylene. What's been one mile Sobotka? illa Billahi wallet as an array in order to configure by me Maya, this reverses but first we start with one first one to five. So in this verse of Surah, NL before I explained this verse, Imam Nibbana Rahmatullah Hara Imam kirkeby has transmitted this, that the people asked him regarding our see a will and will see is usually written or given at the time of death in the last throes of death. So if the Imam huband said, we'll see is written regarding wealth, I don't have any wealth, however, I have these verses to offer. And this is the verse He gave
us the below bakeable hikma verse one to five Sudan.
So in this verse, Allah subhana wa Taala is addressing our Prophet Allah Allah who will sell them
by saying auto dial means to invite
although is imperative scale auto meaning invite instruction, invite all the dealers below your big invite towards the path of your Lord.
Okay, let's let's pause here for a while.
The first thing is,
Allah has mentioned Sabine
So, part of Allah. So the purpose of invitation the maksud the ultimate new Plus Ultra objective of Dawa is Allah
not me, Allah subhanho wa Taala we are inviting towards ALLAH. This is number one, this is where we should the point that you mentioned stages are Kamala Harris is renew our intentions. Why are we inviting Uh, why are we seeking knowledge?
And what are we what what do we plan to do with this knowledge? This is why inshallah later we'll discuss Imam Muhammad Abdullah Ali in Kabbalah L. In the chapter of knowledge, he talks about the concept of manava debate. So the Prophet sallallahu wasallam said and I want to mention this hadith at this point, so I can rectify my intention to because I don't think I started with a sincerity, but inshallah we'll do this now. Previously Allahu Allah said Hadith deportiva Imam Timothy Montalban Elma whoever seeks knowledge. Why? Leo Jharia Behala Allah
with the scholars to challenge the scholars. Oh, Leo Maria his sofa on number two to argue with the foolish ones. Number three. Oh, yes, reefer Biggie would you anass la or to attract the attention of people towards him so people can call me share? People can call me you know this, and people can follow me and people can like my comments like my videos. This is not in the Hadith, but I'm just contemporary.
The Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said or the kind of love of Allah will permit him the fate of Johanna.
So although Illa sebelah we are inviting towards you, towards Allah. The whole objective of Dawa is towards Allah nobody else this is number one. No following yes this is the nature of social media following likes for intention should be only Allah if there's any other intention but dude, you will be rejected in the court of ALLAH SubhanA wa.
robic, this is a second word. Although invite towards the path of your Lord, Allah did not use any other word. And it was super Holic Malik Rahim, Rahman, Bardeen, what are so many other smart attributes of Allah, Allah chose the word Rob Al hamdu lillahi rabbil aalameen The word Robusta is from tarbiyah
there'll be a to nurture someone to look after Imam Bebo it gives the definition that we believe will shape in our commodity shape and fashion to make something reach its destination. Slowly, slowly stage by stage with perfection and completion. So this is indication for our unit tarbiyah. Among cultivate, this is integration for Dawa, you need tarbiyah the prophets that Allahu alayhi wa sallam was directly, he directly received nurturing and therapy from ALLAH SubhanA wa Tada. We also need the Obeah we need the prophetic way as a therapy, we need the therapy of our Maasai, we need the therapy of our scholars, we need the pedigree of our elders, we need the Obeah so on. So this
is, this is the second or third order below. Invite worthy of your Lord. Now Allah subhana wa Taala has given three methods and we should stay within the three main methods. This is the default position or you could say this is the first principle of method or methodology. Number one bill hikma wisdom
number two, one more, bottle Hassan, good counseling, good advice. And number three were John Dill home Bill Letty he asked then, and do moja de la Machado Imani cathedra mentioned mo Navarra and debate with them in the best of manners. So these are three methods slightly. Should you unpack this slide? It was that yes, absolutely. Okay, so let's start with obviously the first one hikma hikma wisdom. Now in in higman, there are several Farsi but just to give two main ones one is the Quran and Sunnah. So we use the message of the Quran we message of the Hadith, etc. This is one interpretation. A second interpretation which is beautiful. Also from Allama. Lucy in rural Mani
he has mentioned that hikma here is referring to saying the right thing at the right time.
Just wisdom saying the right thing at the right time. You know, a person is going through emotional experience. He doesn't believe in Allah. He's going through emotions and you know that this person is going through emotional experience. The hikma wisdom at the time would be and Allah knows best is to ask them regarding their personal circumstance, why they're upset, but they need any help. This will be
so this is one number two more earbuds in Hi Santa, good counseling. Good. Good words. Now more again can mean Quran and Sunnah
can also mean advice can also be Quran sunnah, but the Omar mentioned Allahu Akbar, among other myofascial mentioned that we don't just give them the Quran and Sunnah we don't force the Quran and Sunnah onto them. The method has to be good, more either high center, the method has to be good, you know, in gentle
with the intention that we want, we want to pray for them. We went goodness for them. This is a big thing was that that's missing first myself. So I confess to this crime is that when we invite people towards Allah
is almost now the biller. We want them to be misguided, you know. So, approximate and reputation especially, we want them to work. We want them almost sometimes not everybody, some people we want them to utter the words of gopher, we want them to utter the words of beta now with a biller, and this is not we we advise them good counseling with the intention that we want guidance for them with the Ficker and worried that we want guidance and this is a distinguished quality again, again, of the prophets that Allahu Allah Islam, when the prophets that Allahu Allah exceeded in his character, Allah says, Allah, Allah Hoolock Navin, indeed you have been created upon exalted character. When it
came to knowledge, Allah said, visit their enema increase my knowledge. So when it came to these other apps, Allah, the Prophet of Islam increased and increased, but when it came to worry, he had worrying and concerned the Prophet alayhi salaatu Islam he had so much worry for the
And for the guidance that
the Quran was revealed unlocker burgeron Nuff said Allah Kuno meaning all my prophet, but perhaps there is the chance that you might die because of grief. Why? Because these people are not bringing a man. So having that worry and concern that how can my interlocutor accept him or how can they be guided and then waking up at the 100 and making dua for them that Oh Allah, I have given the hour to this person. Guidance is in your control, please guide this person.
So Molly has an addition this all comes in more in the hustle This is why Bobby cathedra matola Holly disburse of Surah Hud 125 It gives the verse of Surah Baha, where Allah subhana wa Tada instructed Musa alayhis, Salam and Harun for Kula Allah who own and leg in the speak to fit down in a soft Manna for your own. Who is here on hon camel Allah He made such claim Nobody in history has made the I am your God not normal standard god I'm your greatest God rabuka Will Allah
anybody who is making this claim today hon Allah and the Prophet alayhi salaatu wa Salaam is instructing Musa alayhis salam and how to not is to speak to fit around in a soft manner, in a gentle manner with kind words why Allah who is the worker? Oh Washa because he might take heat or he might fear now.
The moment and the beautiful brightening here they said Allah subhanho wa Taala knew in his pre eternal knowledge in his body that for all will not accept a man despite this Allah instruction Musa lays that out man hold on it Islam to speak softly. Why? To teach the lesson that humans they only listen or they usually assume you speak softly to them. We speak nicely to them. Yes, this was when Milena used to Candler de la la is the author of Hayato Sahaba. He would say the muladhara say aadmi, Kyle hosack them Meiling of sakta
you know, volatile discretion sometimes a person may accept your argument but he will not become inclined towards what you're saying. He might become a coil but you will not become mine.
Except by you saying Deep Mind just accept but you will not become inclined towards you. So Bill Moore Ableton Hustler, this second method, first method hikma wisdom, second good counseling, not just counseling, good counseling. And in that mentioned, Mr. McCarthy, he calls a verse of Musala is the third method. What John?
Just Just to add sorry, I think in my mind Karuturi Rahimullah, he basically says about this particular person sort of Taha that you're talking about, he, and I'm obviously paraphrasing that in his tafsir, he basically argues that if Musa alayhis salaam had to speak, speak softly to throne, who was like one of the worst creatures on this planet, then imagine how we must, at least initially, and as my addition, how we must speak to other people. So in order, to me makes this argument that Musa alayhis salam had to speak to for our own lay in and lay, you know, with soft speech, imagine anyone else. And what's very interesting, I think one scholar said, you know, when
he was I think he was speaking to do art, or some people that have similar kind of capacity, he basically said, You are not a Musa, and the person that you're speaking to, is not a federal loan.
And this is very interesting, because sometimes some of our brothers may quote, the kind of reaction of the prophets in a way as if they have the same, you know, life experiences,
you know, long standing efforts in the dour, just like some of the prophets, and they equate the prophetic context with their context. And usually it's not always the same, right?
And, and, similarly, they also, sometimes, you know, have a reductionist approach to these ayat and even some Hadith and say, Look, see, they did it, I can do it. But I think there is a there's a massive misunderstanding of the more variables the social variables the context of the time and there's a basically inability to apply that in a contemporary context. But that's for we could discuss in a few moments but yeah, continue check. So the third one is what Jay did, whom been letting us debate with them in the best of manner. So now look, Allahu Akbar, Imam. Lucy Rahim Allah He mentioned something grammatically amazing here. So Allah has mentioned three method, wisdom, good
counseling and debate, but debate is restricted with past and I asked to be the best of method. So what do you mean by that?
The method again your tone is correct your intention is correct. And and you present such evidences that your interlocutor can easily understand them.
So you don't go into detail in a type of syllogism that even you don't understand yourself. Rather you present the argument in simple terms. So your interlocutor understand and your intention is also that the your interlocutor is guided by your debate. These are all things Imam Ghazali has mentioned eight conditions in this area Lumad in eight conditions, when amendment debating with your with your interlocutor. Now, the point I want to mention here in terms of grammar
is SubhanAllah. If you look at this verse two and a half 125125 Allah says call towards the part of your Lord Bill hikma wisdom. Well, more Eva till Hasina and good counseling. Now both of these words are a smart, they're nouns. hikma is a noun ism in Arabic language, and memorial and Hasina are also nouns. And as you are aware of that, in nouns, they have a steady state
it continues to let go so for example, if I say Zaidan gemmy loan, Zaid is handsome or beautiful. So the predicate Jamal
the predicate beauty it remains Yes. So, likewise
and more evil Hasina wisdom and good advice are the continuous states of data meaning the default position are these two
good counseling. Now whenever there is a need
need what God why because Dhoni Allah use the verb jardel is a more imperative from Giada Yuja dilemma Jonathan woody doll from Bob bufala
which is a verb and verb is the process is is something that's occurred and you know, action drinking is occurrent Punching is a feral setting, these are limited momentarily they occur and that's it. So, this also indicates the manava
knee sometimes sparing conditions, but the default and the predominant positions are the first to wisdom and good counseling, wisdom and good counseling.
This is why Imam Al Ghazali Rahmatullahi Allah He gives a beautiful analogy of the of this verse he says the first two are like water
everybody needs them good words wisdom we are all in need like
everybody is in need of water in order to live more now there is like
only the ill
If you stop prescribing medicine to everyone in your power, everybody those who are not in Dell become in
medicine only that person can prescribe a medicine who knows medicine means a doctor to be likewise a person who engages in MANOVA and debate they need to know the soul the double MANOVA otherwise they will be more harm harm done Hamdan benefit.
So these are the three main methods of study of Dawa and if we analyze the Quran, we will see that the Gambia Allahumma Salatu was Salam they stayed within these three methods. Even the debate of the Brahim Ali Salam when nimbu alum todo el de de Hodge Ibrahim A fear of be an atta Allah will work many debate in the mood in the Pali Brahim Obeah levy if you meet he said a prime minister that was nuts in Maya Rob is the one who gives life and death I'm going to move said well I can do that you brought two people give killed one and let the other live. Then Ibrahim Ali salat wa salam very give a very cogent, cogent and strong argument guarded by him for in Allah yet DB Shamcey mineral
machinic fight to be Hamad Al Maghrib the Milord he makes the sun rise from the east from Mushnik. You do the opposite way. But to be having a mug if you bring it from the magnet for booth under the cover. It became silenced. So giving strong arguments. This is not against Modula. A person can give a strong argument it can give a rigorous vigorous argument a cogent evidence, but the method build the asset. And if you look at the MBA Allium Silicon Valley, Santa Monica salat wa salam study is beautiful. Allah subhana wa that is mentioned. How do Alison give Dawa to his people? How many years 950 years Welaka arson new Han ala Khomeini all of a sudden no one told me Well listen Subhanallah
Alfa forgot the rest of the Quran but 950 years Allah subhanho wa Taala
St Louis No one has said I'm sorry give out for 950 years they are night call or be in the the auto me lane and want to get a night to give out well in Nicola mad I would only talk to
Danny was talk shows here but from what I saw was the broomstick bar and look when you get down to them. What did they do? They put the fingers in the ears. They covered their faces. Just imagine you're trying to talk to someone. They and I give them doubt and when they do,
he didn't give up. He's making dua to Allah. All I'm doing this, the older man say,
from the etiquettes of a die, that they do do a night. And they mentioned to Allah this is this these are the hardships I face in my Dawa today like no one Islam did to me any doubt on jihad on any Island.
Then he changed method he start giving them doubt loudly, quietly so they could hear but they ignored what happened near the end.
What was the home state in New Orleans Salatu was Salam
ala Akbar, where is this better? Quarter? So we know if we studied su Aarav verses from 59 to 67. We define the stories of two prophets New Orleans Lama who Dallas
New Orleans Salatu was Salam. Yes. So I don't need to eject. But let's let's we're going to go into this in a few moments just in my own learning as well. So
from the from the from the first principle approach of giving dour, yeah, chapter 16 Verse one to five is very critical. Allah subhanho wa Taala says call to the way of Allah subhana wa Tannous Allah is central to this you also made it indication that Allah says, quote to the way of your Rob, which which relate to the word, the tarbiyah therefore this an indication that we need to be as well when we're giving Dawa. Then you said, and there's all In summary, of course, then you said the three main approaches to the Dawa with hikma with good counsel, and with manava, or debating and discussing and with hikma means Quran and the Sunnah, and he can hikma basically means saying the
right thing in the right way or in the at the right time.
And then you spoke about good counsel, which again can also mean Quran and Sunnah. But specifically, you know, as you know,
our crew to be talks about this and obviously other Mufasa in concerning Musa alayhis salam speaking to for our own Lena sauce speech, kindly, you know, with a sense of kindness and softness and compassion. And then you said that the other method is, you know, monada debate discussion, but that has to be in the context of, you know, the best possible manner as your McSherry, I believe, the famous grammarian he talks about this verse, and he basically says that you it's without any gruffness, or any harshness, yeah, debate with them in the ways that are best or the best possible ways.
And you said there is a distinction that the main two methods of giving Dawa is actually hikma and it's actually good counsel. But from a linguistic point of view, there is a strong indication to show that debating and when other and these type of discussions, they should be used in a particular context. And you talked about a lemma talked about certain conditions. So it's not the default position for the dollar. No, and he has to be done. As long as there's obviously sincerity, and they have to be done in the right way. And it has to be done oversea with certain conditions is not basically the first thing that you do all the time when you're giving data. So that's the summary so
Bismillah let's now go to the chunk of verses that you're about to analyze inshallah. Bismillah.
So Surah, verses from 59 to 67. Allah subhana wa Taala speaks the garden to prophets
know is now give Dawa for 950 years what are called New Han Illa COVID fellow beta FIM Alpha Saladin il Nakum Sina Arma now diverse came through my mind SubhanAllah 950 years give Tao it at the end What did his people say to him call mela Amina pony he in the neurography about early moving in the leaders amongst his people they said to him, Oh, no, indeed.
We see you that you are obviously in error in misguidance.
Just imagine that let's just contemporize this I give Dawa. Forget 950 years for nine hours.
And then my interlocutor I'm talking about myself here, okay, nobody myself. He turns around and he says to me, you built the you innovator.
stuff. I probably say you're an innovator, your dad's an innovator and your grandpa's innovate
stuff and then and this is sometimes this will tell you disproportionately now, what do I listen to Santa Luca his reply Allahu Akbar.
He said Kalia told me needs to be about Allah. Allahu Akbar. Oh my
Goodness Oh my people. I'm not misguided when I came near a pseudo Mirabella Alameen, however, I'm a Prophet from Robben Island in from the lab of all of the university. So this is a G Allah. Look how he answered. He just said what you're accusing me of, I'm not this. I am this.
I'm not this I am this Allahu Akbar. And on the mansion,
the in Dawa. In Dawa, you need to have a common link.
You need to have a link in order to invite them because you are inviting them towards Allah. You are calling them towards Allah, you are connecting them with Allah, therefore you need a rabbit. You need a link. And if you look at the link that I'm being used, they use this link of brotherhood of my people.
You know, Jacobi calm is mentioned throughout the Quran. Every Prophet mentioned on Yom actually he's Yako. Me, but the year has been a minute it has committed my people, my business. My human fellow members. Yeah. So this compassionate is there, even though the people that insulted them bi Misurata. Who de la Salatu was not what did they say to him in the same Surah Surah. Paul Mullah Hola, vena cava Rumiko mini in El neurography Safa.
They said the leader and those who are
with eminent ones, from his people, they said, the disbelievers they said inhale neurography Stefan indeed we see you in clear flute foolishness so far. We're in Nobunaga Melaka Debian and indeed we see amongst Elias chi they mean you are lying. What did you say? Again? Oh, they call me they said
well, I can Nero solo Mirabella me, all my people, I don't have any suffer, I do not have any foolishness. So what they accused him of, he said, I am not this rather I am this. And he continued his Dawa. And if you look
at the message of the MBR Alma Salatu was Salam. Throughout the Quran, you will see that this is the retaliation they will always retaliate like this. Now, there might be
an objection on this. And I've heard this and I think you mentioned this to me regarding Latos law when he was making the ark.
He was making the ark.
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thing is torah hood was only going to get the Quran because I just went to this verse just came out to my head
Sorry, I'm one of those rooms on half is the only no my Quran in Ramadan outside Ramadan.
I forget that I was learning for Tara we and that's it.
So is here.
I just want to mention this verse here is important. So this is Surah ood Surah Hood, verse,
verse 38 and 39 Surah Hood, which is 411 Verse 3839 is now full. He was making the Ark he was instructed by Allah to make this work will Lama Mala la mala Amin told me every time the eminent ones are the leaders of his people they passed by some room in the market.
So he said call interest her room in if you mock us. Nurse thirimanne Come that indeed we will mock you come out of school and the way you are mocking
so sometimes people use this look, no one is allowed to a salon. He mocked his people now Oh, the builder mean that this is out of context. Number one.
Here hear it isn't mentioned. What words? No, at least not worse than I'm used in mocking.
Yes, because the verses should arrive clearly mentioned that he didn't he didn't use the same words as they used to call him misguide. He didn't use the same word. The other thing a lot of them have assumed including the early imam in Brasilia poverty. He says in Nanus Hello minicom calmatters Haroon, that indeed we will mock you many in the Arca
like you are mocking us in this dunya and mocking the akhira there's no retribution there is no punishment because there are no laws Amahl in Africa and the de Lille for this interpretation is the next verse For so for Darla moon, my TRW z y Halo any other movie that you will show shortly no meaning in the future upon whom
the Punisher will come which will humiliate humiliate them meaning after the destroyed to enter the actor you will know so down here number one, it isn't so it didn't it doesn't tell you that knows to build a new alias Latos law
use such a bad language now. The other thing is this is what a man but as he mentioned, this Imam does it so quickly and mocking.
Mocking is a sin
and this is established from the Quran. Now you saw the old woman pulled me aside and said, Should Gerard Allah cleave says people should not mock one another, and mocking is a sin and our Aqeedah is the MBR Alima Salatu was Salam infallible they cannot commit sins. So what does this verse mean? So one interpretation is that this is Allah Sybil mashallah Jani. When a word is used
as a retort not not that it means the same thing. So for example, this happens a lot in the Arabic language, Allah in the Quran, fell Yeoman and so on command is to
forget them like that forgotten this day. Now with Allah does not forget
Allah who yes Does it will be Allah will mock them.
Allah is free from his to his way means that Allah we pay them for their mocking
Oh, you heard the owner Allah. They are trying to deceive Allah subhana wa Tada that's it Bukhara in the beginning of Surah Baqarah if you if you if you look over my Where did you say I say you had your own Allaha Well, letting me know, why am I don't wanna Illa and for some, okay, we are diverse and we are diverse for luminance, or communistic compared to men and so so it's the exact mocking has we attribute towards ALLAH, ALLAH is freed from mocking. And Miss Yan
forgetting is attributable alive, he is free from forgetting. So this very small MRC is Allah assalamu chakra, as the same word has been used, just as you know, when you return back as an answer, but it's meant something else meaning
we will, we will mock you, meaning that we will witness the punishment of your mocking in the orchestra. So these are interpretation I've given for
the other thing that's very important to acknowledge as well as look at the context, even if they will take the interpretation. The new era Islam is looking back, say they will take the interpretation, you can apply in your kind of nega dalla state, with all due respect, you haven't been giving Tao for 950 years. That's that's something very important to understand. And you're kind of ethical, moral social context is almost incomparable to the ethical moral context of North Alehissalaam. So, you know, for you to like compare to situations like with like, and for you to derive a kind of ethical ruling that now you could do the same with all due respect is, is, is
unfounded, just based on context? Even if say, for example, that analysis of some people that know how Alayhis Salam, he mocked, therefore we can mock? That would be a very crude analysis, just based on the fact that there are definitely two different context that you haven't applied the context effectively.
Yeah, exactly. Here. So just, just just just to add on this point, so, so regarding versus sort of Hood, mocking and beyond, they're free from mocking, right that this is a sin. So down here, there's several interpretations like I've just given given by them before soon. If we take this, if we take this interpretation that the new idea Salatu was Salam did mock
Imam Raj Rahmatullah Ali says, then that will come on to the rest of Surah Assura verse 40, where Allah says what Joseph will say it, say to me through her, yes, that the retribution of an evil is evil to is equivalent.
So there is this permission. Now, I need to elaborate slightly on this was that there is this permission that if somebody uses harshness,
you can in return use harshness. If somebody uses certain words, derogatory words, in retribution or in revenge, you can use similar words. But the condition is myth Loja, he has to be equivalent in measure. Now this is the difficult thing. This is why the owner man say that taking retribution and taking revenge is more difficult. And forgiving them is more easier. So why? Because if somebody gives you a slap, you're allowed to give a slap back but if you got heavy hand and your slab hurts them more than you, you're because you become a violin now you become the transgressor.
This is why the vs student, one to five will go back to that verse of student, one to five, the brothers and sisters of worship that opened the Quran. And they look at the verse, Allah subhana wa Taala
talks about the three methods of Dawa. What's the next verse that he says And remember, this is verse many was revealed. Subhanallah when the uncle of the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said Hamza
What are the Allahu Taala regarding the Prophet alayhi salaatu wa salaam estar de la was the rosary is the line of Allah is Rasool he was brutally murdered the story is famous. So the Prophet is not was not you know he was discredited and upset by this and he made intention to take revenge. The Quran said we're in our capital. This is a next verse one to six or seven. Immediately after the free method. We're in our capital for our kibou be Muslim our ok button being that you're going to take revenge then you have to take revenge in equal measure exactly the same, no more. However, when in Sebata, la Hyrule is slavery, if you exercise patience, then this is better. This is better. So
even when retribution is allowed with equal measure, even they're forgiving, a tolerance encouraged. This is why in Surah Shura
verse 40, where Allah subhana wa Taala says, What does that say? I didn't say you admit to her, that the retribution of evil is evil or to its equivalent measure. What does Allah say immediately after from an alpha or US law, however, whoever forgives and those Islam rectifies the situation for a guru who Allah Allah, indeed his reward is upon Allah.
Even when we are allowed to take revenge, what the encouragement that they're given, the Quran is that no you should forgive even in that incident. Even in that incident, you should forgive and the Prophet is allowed to not forgive. And then Allah says in the hula, you have full body mean, indeed, Allah does not love the transgresses. Why is he saying Allah does not know the transgressive? Why is he saying this at the end of the verse? Were you saying you could take revenge? Because normally in revenge you what happens? Somebody swears that he wants to give him 10 swears and return
the line? Are we talking about profit or not to Islam, how we forgive and how it is? And what do we do? Somebody says one thing, we say 10 things back and all our life we keep on repeating that thing to them.
So yes, there is this, you know, context where you can do retribution, maybe even in the context, let's take the argument. Okay, let's take that Melissa to Islam. Literally, they didn't mock with a mock, he would have an equal measure because he's the Prophet of Allah cannot commit and you say,
in equal measure, and the thing is, there is no evidence there to suggest what words he used. The Quran is cited in this regard, rather than before Cyril mentioned down he is referring to occur in akhira. We will knock you off he said this as as a retort unless even mashallah, these are seven interpretations regarding this verse. And I think it was interesting to to know as well is that no, no Allah, Islam was patient for 950 years.
And we know and we know that kind of characteristic of the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, as expounded in sort of facilite verse that before, because that is I think the person's life is a manifestation of sort of facilite verse 34, especially kind of Tao context, where the prophets on had him and Allah says, and you're going to discuss this shortly, that good and evil are not the same repelled by that which is better. And between two people there is hatred, to attend to intimate friendship and then Allah continues, continues and says this is very difficult except for the patient for the patient. So, you know, patience is very important in the Dawa and it's extremely
important for us to have a form of help. Now, move is there more you want to say about these verses? Or shall we continue to the next part should be adjusted on this patience?
The Quran is clear. Allah says, Allah emitting you doing a B M Brina.
We are made them the leaders the aim of guidance,
the guide the art of hedaya, the guide towards Allah subhanaw taala. But when does guidance spread? Lama Saba when the exercise patients
Yeah, so this is it could be argued that it is a senior Cornyn is actually a prerequisite for a DI to be a Serbian meaning to to
to access herbal because through his Sobor Allah will guide people and this is one of the reason Imam Shafi volumen he said in the learning Amina Mohammed Assad will also in that in Santa Fe course in learning and I'm in a slightly harder what also will have to also be stubborn and this is the Sunnah of some of the self and the Sahaba that when they would depart they would mention the sewer as a reminder, Allah takes us by time indeed entire you might isn't great, except for those people for things. Eman Ahmad is slowly the building Eman they do good deeds number three what also will help with also with hotkeys Dawa inviting one another in joining good and what's after was mentioned
after that what the wasabi server server is mentioned after that and orlimar mentioned the reason somebody is married to after Tao because $1 unit server hmm
It was BTC I think through this conversation already chef, it shows the beauty of looking at the whole Quran together, you know,
chapter 16 Verse one to five connects with verses FAHA. Then also the verse that you just mentioned, now connect with the verses concerning
in the chapter by time, and so on and so forth. You see, everything comes together, when you look at the whole of the Quran, and you try to sincerely seek guidance from the book of Allah subhanho, wa taala, everything comes out, right? And then it starts to basically guide your, your, your worldview guide the way you you approach certain old topics, and specifically in the context of the dour, it really makes us focus on you know, you know, we have to really use the Quran, use the Quran and the way of the prophets as a reference point as a guide for the way we interact with with other people and to do in a sincere way in sha Allah. So check let's talk about now, sort of facilite verses 33
and 34. Inshallah, these are my favorite verses, concerning the dour. I really believe, you know, verse 33, is a holistic, holistic guidance concerning what the DAO is, who is better in speech and the one who calls to Allah. So you have the direct call to tell heed to the fact that Allah is worthy of worship, does righteous deeds is a righteous person, you not only talking the talk, but you walk the walk, and then says I am one of those who submit to Allah. So you connect your actions in a way to the fact that you are someone who submits to the Lord of everything that exists. And then straight after this iron is good and evil are not the same, repelled by that which is better.
And between two people there is hatred returned to intimate friendship. And this is very difficult except for those who are patient. And what's very interesting, the Arabic word repel was not followed by a direct object here is as if you repel anything by that which is better. And the lemma basically summarize for us and say that repelling by that which is better is repenting with what is more virtuous, and what is more beautiful.
And obviously, you know, the life of the person is very much like this, for example, the famous story with the Jewish man came to the Prophet salallahu it was on and pulled him by the neck. And you know, there was always almost going to be a confrontation, but the way the person responded was that over Helm, that forbearance, Allah is at Halim, and we should be, you know, a human manifestation of what Helen is, you know, from a human context. And the process I'm responding in such an amazing way that this Jewish man became a Muslim, because he was looking for the final sign of Prophethood because he said, there were three signs of Prophethood he was looking for, he saw two
of them, but one of them that he wanted to find out and he tested the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam was that a forbearance? And that of repelling with with what is better and what is more virtuous, but when you do discuss this, I actually I want you to also try and answer this question. When is it okay? Oh, what in what context? Can we repel?
In a way that doesn't look very beautiful, but could be seen as assertive and being assertive in that context is actually the most virtuous thing to do? It is actually the better thing to do. So, when Allah says Republic that which is better, when is it that there is a context where you can repel but that which is better, but that which is better is actually quite harsh and assertive? So, you know, after discussing these two verses, maybe us are trying to answer that question, inshallah.
Inshallah, I don't think there's much to discuss, because Alhamdulillah you have summarized two verses martial law very succinctly. The only point I would like to add on this,
to what you've already
mentioned, is that the evil villain still has another way to say yeah, the good and evil are not the same.
So this the concept of good and evil is mentioned immediately after the verse of tower woman asked an Ebola moment in Allah, who is better than a person in speech will invite towards Allah? Will Amina saw the hand and then they do good deeds work on and they say in the name of Muslims, this is humility, that I'm no I'm not I'm not nobody special. I'm also a believer from the rest of the believers, there are many like me. So that's what Dawa, inviting towards ALLAH subhanaw taala requires, it requires humility, and we understand that from this will call in any middle Muslim in the indeed I am amongst the believers, I'm not, I'm not special. I'm also like the rest of the
believers in this in this job. So that's one. Immediately after this verse, Allah says, person good and evil, they're not the same. Now. What does it mean by good and evil here? So Imam Razi mentioned that in the beginning of the Surah, Allah mentioned, obviously for select verse five, or Luke Guru Buddha fee
Kinder Tim, the owner Eli, what we learn in our work woman being in Albania hijab farmer in and I'm you know, they said that our hearts you know the veil from in regards to who you are inviting towards meaning we can't we're not going to listen to what you're saying and in our ears that props in our ears we can't hear you and been an outstanding job. And between us there's a very you know, we don't want to listen to you and then in in the next next ruku or two later in verse 26 of the same Surah will call a lead in Accra, Allah then mentions the stamina of the kuffaar when they said lattice normally huddle Quran do not listen to this Quran. Well Hopi make noise rather when he's
reciting make noise so you don't listen to the Quran. So Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam he was facing this hardship when giving Dawa
was facing facing hardship in a given hour. They were not listening they were making noise. They were being disrespectful, rude etc. So is in this context, Allah said that good and evil are not the same meaning your data which is good
is which is good. And the evil meaning them insulting disrespect them making noise at the time of recitation of Quran is not the same.
So, we what we understand from this that the person even at the time of giving Tao if our interlocutor is being rude,
the position that is being encouraged in the Quran is and this is very difficult. That's why Allah says Omar will occur in London in a suburb.
Only those who are patient, they're able to do this because it's very difficult that your interlocutor is insulting you, and they are patronizing you and in the face of this you carry on giving, giving Dawa. But this is the method of the Gambia and just to let the rest come to my mind, quickly Surah Surah Surah Surah Shuara we'll start where Musala salatu salam he, he stood in front of her own to give Dawa and he What did francais all lm neurography No worry don't worry, Mr. Fi phenomenon Cassini were for as the fall is eternity for Alto and terminal caffine so he stood in front of Tehran Iran give him Tao and fronds like saying are you know the one who I nurtured and
were brought up in my house or same person and you stayed amongst us for many years and then you did the action? The action that you did
when when he accidentally killed that person?
So what did
Muslims call of Aalto? You don't want a minute Bali? I did this Yes, I made a mistake by that time I was unaware because it he did it accidentally he didn't deliberately want to kill
that person but okay. Musa Islam carried on business downward is carried on so on set.
Well, Moto Barnum, you know, given downward towards Allah who is disrupt will Allah mean you're talking about he said, all Europe was somehow they will Adama abena Houma. Musa salat wa salam decried he is the hub of the heavens in the earth and whatever is in between in quantum opinion, if you're going to have conviction and
so now look, now it's escalated but on is escalating. Now, first step, we just said oh, you're that person now. Okay.
Now we'll look at his reply. Call him and how to stimuli said to the people around him. Are you listening? Are you saying the rubble al Amin is Allah because he called himself Rob
which adds some credence to Darwin. He ignored this. He said Colorado Fukumura by como la nina Ferroni. Is Europe and the ravago forefathers.
Now he escalates peran escalating Memorial, he said call in or Sula como la de oro sila na comme le Majnoon the indeed your Rasool was been sent you now with Bella is insane
He insulted Musa listener during the hour by saying Majnoon
ignore this carried on honorable Machito Almagro Omar, Omar in contempt that you cannot get me out of Allah. That is the robber the mushfiqur Normally, but whatever is in between, in contempt, if you understand. So, the position that we understand from the Quran is that even at the time when our interlocutor the people who are interlocutor don't say interlocutor, but the people who are we are invited towards Allah subhana wa and if they become rude, they become harsh, they say things and be very clear from the Prophet sallallahu Sallam and Musa alayhis salam story that they carried on positively giving our and ignored those those remarks. Now going back to your question or style that
when When is it okay? Or when? Or when is it? The best asset to actually be assertive? Yes, be assertive, and that is the best method at the time. Now look, I just want to make it very clear from the onset Being assertive
is fine. Musa al Islam he said look and this
If you don't didn't like this, because you're on call himself, Musa Islam said rabuka Mora Bigler he's not only Europe is Rob of your forefathers, in
a surgeon he said this to being assertive in your Dawa and given the message of Allah, Allah without any hesitation, this is fine all the time. Now, the problem I think is, is using certain language is using certain language which patronizes or which belittled or humiliates the person you're giving out, I think this is something that we need to avoid being assertive
in your power,
hour and being assertive are not mutually exclusive, you can easily be a DI with assertion with conviction without being rude without being patronizing foolhardy, severely, so user friendly that will hide the sabini Allah say this is my PA, which, calling towards Allah, Allah, Allah, Allah mercy with conviction with a surgeon, yes, this is my path Allah exists, etc. The thing that we need to be careful is if if I'm going to mock my interlocutor and this is I think we need to discuss start the when Imam Rosina was early and have is retained me reading all these books. Older mom and dad wrote these books, they don't have social media.
Today we have social media. Today we have social media is my interlocutor.
I'm not gonna mention name because today, I'm trying to change my life. But if my interlocutor is rude, and you know, he probably deserves
approach. That might be fine. being harsh and assertive with him to an extent might be fine, but we have to be careful. And this is where the hikma comes in. And this way, the ability as a comedian, if I have assumption of a dominant assumption, or if I anticipate, if I use these words, if I patronize or belittle this interlocutor, he has a million following.
There is a chance that many of his followers they might be neutral about Islam, or they might not Islamophobes, for example.
But if I use this
this instant, there is a great chance that the followers
remember, it's not only our interlocutor, millions of people watching our his followers, My show sympathy towards him,
they might show sympathy towards him, and they might even become even more grounded in their beliefs. So what you're saying, when we because we have a social media context, now, we have many audiences all in one. So when we are given this live stream, for example, it can have many audiences, Muslims, non Muslims, those on the fence those in the fence, whatever the case may be, right? We have to appreciate that now we have to adopt what you call the kind of muscle heart and Massada. Right? What are the positive outcomes and the harms, what harms on my reducing? What kind of benefits are increasing, and so on and so forth. And it's obviously far more important to reduce
any harms. So even if we think we are justified from a kind of textual perspective, to react in a certain way, and to say certain things, it is more befitting, as I mentioned, the question in the beginning of today's live stream to ask the question, what is does Allah want from me in my context, if it's more pleasing to Allah, to remove the Masada to, to remove the harms, and to increase the musclehead benefits, and by doing so in my particular context, I just hold my mouth a little bit more, and maybe be a little bit more softer. If that increases the muscle Aha, and reduces the Massada then that is more pleasing to Allah.
But it could be that in a certain situation, if I'm too soft, then it could increase the Masada increased the harms, and crease, the benefits the muffler. However, we're not here to analyze everyone's situation, we want people to be principled and not reactionary. And if you're a principal, you would ask yourself that question, do not do a post hoc analysis of your actions as as do art when we engage in dour, intellectually, academically and whatever the case may be. We shouldn't justify our positions after we've done something, we should have a lot of thought, and a lot of Zen about excellence and loss and sincerity. Before we do an action to actually think about
number one, is it blameworthy? Is it more in line with Allah's pleasure? Am I increasing the muscle? Aha, am I removing the Massada? Am I increasing the benefits removing the hands? And then when we come to an answer, then we do it for the sake of Allah. And that's why I want people to be more principled. So it's very important you brought this up because in today's social media context, even if something could be technically okay to do is is it more
pleasing to Allah. And this is exactly we have to be more nuanced. This is this is dour. I mean, when it comes to business and getting a job and, and you know, going up in rank concerning your profession, we have a lot of excellence when it comes to these things. But this is the greatest job you could ever do in your life, which is the dour, we shouldn't just do it willy nilly, we should basically ask the question, what does Allah want from me in this particular context, and it could be that something could be okay to do. But it's not necessarily in line with Allah's pleasure in that context. So that's what we have to talk through what is going to increase the muscle, increase the
benefits, and decrease the Massada increase or decrease rather than the humps. And it could be that you don't adopt that, that strategy, you adopt a different strategy. And I'll be so happy if all of the dot online and offline, always had this in their mind. hamdulillah lots of brothers doing great job. You know, I believe all of these brothers are better than me. I'm more sinful than these brothers. But I it will be such a beautiful thing to see that if everyone collectively in the DAO ecosystem, if you want to call it that, as suborder calls it, that everyone basically adopts that mindset. What does Allah want from me in my particular context? What is going to be more closer to
Allah's pleasure in my particular context? And that's why in that context, it may not just be I am allowed to do it might be something even higher, what is increasing the benefits the muscle heart, what is decreasing the Masada? That is the thing that I should be following. And it could be something totally different from the current strategy that we've adopted, which could be a reactionary stance or something that's based on our knifes, and may Allah protect us from this. So
it's very important brothers and sisters, for us to adopt this mindset. So may Allah subhanho wa Taala make you I mean, when every one of us so continue, please continue. So I just want to mention this point of handler. And this is, you know, when I read this first time, I thought is Imam was only talking about our time. So I have this facade, the facade. This was an approximate in 488 ad. It was written just before he had that crisis, the two crisis he talks about, inside his movement, Ebola deliverance from he has a spiritual Christ, and then he has intellectual Christ,
the Spirit of Christ, he talks about the fame and name of the entourage. You know, I mean, 300 students per session and, and the intellectual crisis is a notable lesson people say that he had crisis in mind. He didn't have crisis in demand. He had crisis in how to answer skepticism. And okay, I want to go into that. So he wrote this book. Just before the episodes about an accredited man was early says this is the
for a student who wants to pursue Calum. This is the final book they should study.
Here, I've got this book here, that'll mean hedge print, page 110.
This section he starts off by categorizing the general public into four groups.
So this is true with polemics, philosophical discourse, etc. So the fourth group, I'm not going to go through all three, just the fourth one the fourth which is the majority of the misguided people, are you causing the type of bottle so like, let's contemporize this, you know, the followers
of these Islamophobes for example, have followers a lot of these deviated people Yeah 1000s of them.
There are many amongst them that the intellectual dark honest and they want to know the truth.
Local Imam was ALLAH says regarding these people, for her hola Jezebel, a lot of being Fisty multimodal help. These people are no costard I think a lot of the people on social media come on this category, he says is necessary to be gentle with them inclining them towards the truth, what it shot them in the car, and guiding them towards the true Aqeedah laughy model the Mahabharata also not in the method of
you know, argumentation and fanaticism.
Gently why because if you're going to be very harsh in your approach for inner radical zero feed the white ball and this will increase the means of misguidance and they said, why you hate you Baba is a tomato Assad and this will instigate the causes of extremism and
stubbornness. And look at this now.
This is what I see, you know, things that he wrote 900 years ago they are applicable today that he says, What October Jaha lat in nama rasa cut few colluvial awam with the Asobi Jama It Mean Joe Holly, I will help you will help a female auditor do well in the law. We're Novo in the CUSUM behind Takita what is raw for Thau mean? verwalten him Delilah? Morando Maharlika what was the
But Rob, was the HUD fee puluh been affino fusi
Baltierra? Well I surah Allah Allah my alma mater, Dr. Maha Maha Buddha Satya, he mentioned
the most of the ignorances of the deviated believes they consolidate and solidify in the hearts of the general people here the general followers we're talking about why? Because of the extreme approach from the ignorant amongst the people of the UK. And in one place you call them Giles, radical Islam and ignorant friend of Islam. He's a Muslim, but he's ignorant.
What does this guy do? He exposes the truth in the method of challenging and arrogance. And he looks down weaknesses of his interlocutor with the eye of patronization and condescending
interlocutor like is nothing, nothing is nothing is on my level. Because of this, the viewers, the followers of the awam of this our interlocutor in the hypothetical scenario, they become even more stubborn in their beliefs, and they show him some sympathy towards him. And then he says, For 30 Min verwalten, him Dawa ILMOR, annual Maharlika and what happens, the causes of
obstinacy and opposition becomes even more rooted. And what does he know? forcement ethical about the law and the false Ateca they become even more stronger now. Because I'm showing this guy, our interlocutor, you know, he's been so calm and nice. He must be right. Unfortunately, people think like this. They think emotionally you understand? I think I heard you mentioned, I've learned so much from you. That's why I call him a starch. Allahu Akbar. You mentioned on place. We're not we're not just intellectual beings. We're not just people of acting, you know, we're not just
reduced to alcohol, we have emotions, we have our and then Imam Ghazali says, because of the scenario, what happened because of these Johal blood, what happens?
In moto doc defeat, it becomes difficult, and the Euler Maga gentle approach to eradicate this.
I don't know what to do. This is
this is very deep. This is very, the insights of Allah Ghazali Rahimullah was just phenomenal. But here's a question though.
Because many of our do art many people who engage in the data know these things, right? But here's a deeper question. In today's contemporary context, where you have two audiences, now you have the Muslim audiences and within the Muslim audiences, a range of Muslims, Muslims that need a sense of confidence. And then you have the non Muslim audience. And there's a range of non Muslims, those who hate against Islam, those who don't know those who are ignorant, and so on and so forth.
That what do you do when you have those two audiences in mind because it could be the case that you're debating someone who's a well known as some or phobe? He's a hater. He's been like, you know, hating his son for over a decade, he's been cursing the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa salAllahu alayhi wasallam and cursing Allah subhanho wa taala. Now, if you show a softness with such a person, it could, you know, it could actually send the wrong message to the Muslims the wrong message to the community thinking that, you know, we're, you know, we're always going to be walked all over.
So if you have that audience in mind, but you have also the non Muslims in mind, then what do you actually do? How do you balance between positive assertion confidence and, and, and what I would call ethical harshness when necessary, and speaking in a way that is conducive to bring in people to the deen of Allah subhanho wa taala. How do you balance that?
Balance is very easy to start. First, we stick to our default position.
wisdom within that methodology, the first verse, we mentioned verse one to five, so
we stick to the framework, and be assertive, you know, being assertive and being strong in your arguments and intellectual, rigorous, this is totally fine. What we need to avoid is a direct mockery of our interlocutor where we put him down so much that I guess you're correct.
The thing is, for example, a person who's mock the Prophet salallahu idea center, it makes my it makes my blood boil. The reality it makes my blood boil. But the thing is that the question that we need to ask us is, if we mock that person, in the same manner,
the Prophet said, Allahu Allah cinema is and his respect is not going to go down to
Allah has given him the state is that nobody else can imagine. Right? That's not gonna happen. But what is the fear? The fear is that
even his followers might increase in their obstinacy like mama
that emotion might increase. Look, I don't want to mention certain incidents but there was recently you know, the stripping of the Quran
the methods of stripping the Quran it became like a trend in on social media. Now
I'm not a Law Academy member how we started but really to ask these questions that if we're going to a certain thing and that becomes a mean of these guys increasing in this behavior, and it's humiliating behavior in this derogatory behavior. Isn't it best for me to stay silent or give a positive response and this is in the Quran? is a horrible ninja he Lucado Salama, but the ignorant they just say salaam to them because you know
speaking to them now it's just going to cause more harm. So I think I think you know, pleasing the Muslims, I think they just answer your question, how did you consign this is that you got Muslim and you got non Muslims. Our main down here is the non Muslims. Why was that? Allah Allah and Mufti turkeys
his own his elder brother, Mufti Rafi SAAB is the principal of Dunham Karachi Pakistan. He actually mentioned something in Michel Baca Bradford I was there. And he said, he said the
the one thing if there is one thing hypothetic if there's one thing that is stopping non Muslims from entering Islam is the character of Muslims
look So alhamdulillah you know, I don't you know, stuff in the Senate birthday bar must be all machinability the 60s now but my character myself looking just in England, over like two or 3% And look how many was we are in jail?
13 or 14% or so? So the thing is, yes, Muslims, we need to be assertive. We're not We're not saying that, you know, we're soft. And we are, you know, being really pally, pally with this person. No, we're grounded on principle, we're gonna give them a robust answer. I say your intellectual beating, we can give them an intellectual ability we can humiliate intellectually, people clearly see that, look, his argument is that he has no people see this, a lot of the people see this, you know, people are not dumb, they're not idiots, people actually see that this person has no argument, this person has a strong argument. So against intellectual intellectual, to be assertive, rigorous, without
going to his level. Because once we go to their level, once we stepped up to their level, the thing is, even, even though there is permission, I mean, with a verse record sort assured, it's very difficult, because then the retribution has to be number one. Equally. It has to be also as you as the art we should be seeing anything that is close, we should be doing anything that is closer to the pleasure of Allah subhanho wa taala.
And also, what you've just mentioned here is again, it's the reinforcement of the idea of the Masilela and Massada. What if you say this, are more people are going to rip the Quran? are more people going to curse the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, you need to start thinking about these things. Look at the are you increasing the muscle her? Are you decreasing the Masada? are you increasing the benefits, decreasing the harms? Again, this is saying very important to assess. So you know, this, the whole point of this session is not to analyze every situation and give an answer but to give us a set of principles, which hopefully we've unpacked in order for you to be more
effective in your data and fundamentally for us to please Allah subhanho wa Taala because that's where the baraka is going to be it's going to be in the pleasure of Allah subhanho wa taala. So, Chef, we've been going on for about one hour and 20 minutes. What is the next may probably pre final or final thing you want to say about this whole topic, inshallah.
I think the final thing I would say this is, you know, ask you a question or a question. So, you know, we've been talking about the way of the prophets we've been talking about hikma, we've been talking about things like Rama, good speech, we've been talking about good counsel, when we're talking about Monado discussion, increasing the Muslim or decreasing the Masada. We've been talking about all of the prophetic way, Helen forbearance, repenting by that which is better, and so on and so forth.
You know, reflecting on your dour journey, and you know, I hear you're quite a famous
chef online all those years ago.
Obviously, everyone is on that journey. I'm on my journey. Everyone's on a journey. I totally think it's despicable. To reduce people to the errors. This is not the way of the self this is not the way of the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, we see people on balance and so on and so forth. And I'm my principle is I would join with anyone, whoever they are, wherever they from, if they want to talk about something good. If they want to spread spread, the higher I believe it's a scholarly and Quranic principle to join with such people. And oh,
See, I have a lot of love for you as well. And I've learned a lot. And today was a great session bringing, you know, different parts of the court and together in principles together, you know, encouraging people to have a class to have access to think about the muscle behind the muscle, not to be reactionary, not to reduce, not to post hoc, you know, justify our position after we've done something because it's reactionary, maybe based on knifes, based on emotions, but rather to be very, you know, to
excellence and a class and sincerity when we're thinking about what we utter with our tongue and tongues and what we do with our actions in the context of the data to think about what is more closer to the pleasure of Allah? What does Allah want? For me in this particular context? How do I increase the muscle ahead? How do I decrease the Masada? You know, if we have this approach? Now, in your own life, what would you maybe you would want to you What would you say? What would What lessons have you learned? Or what are some of the things because I hear they have been contentious?
You know, there's been a lot of manava going on.
The reality is, the reality is, I have many mistakes that I'm still working on.
And I think as you get older, and as you get wiser in Sharla, and as you keep connection with your teachers and people who are senior, you realize that what you what you did 10 years ago, or five or 10 years ago, it wasn't the correct way, it was the wrong way.
And, and this is something I would like to share. You know, sometimes I was almost deluded, Subhan Allah, may Allah Tala forgive me for this. I'm all I was almost deluded in thinking in thinking that this speech that I'm giving or this deliverance I'm giving, I'm actually helping the dean.
But I wasn't helping the dean, I was actually venting my ego. I was venting my own ego and I was acting upon my own spiritual illnesses and Subhanallah and I think this is a big challenge. When especially comes to polemical discourse one of the biggest challenge is it's to to address the issue as the issue without getting you know, staying away from other guns and staying away from jealousy and anger and love for fame and Imam was added to law here and he actually mentioned inside his you know, he this is I have heard a little bit Dean. First Volume One kitab. In the chapter of Elvis was section on by Brianna. Toby's feet should be heard in mono Bharat do Masha Allah is Sahaba, one
MUFA, one boufal robotic. So this entire section is about the deception in giving resemblance to our debates with the consultation of the sahaba. And the debates of the self.
You know, some additions honestly, I see this I used to think I'm doing this why because I'm defending the dean. And the Sahaba defended the dean. And Will Mr. defended the dean, that he mentioned that this is a deception, because then he mentioned eight conditions that if a person wants to actually engage in one hour, he has to
consider these eight conditions. And if you look at those eight conditions, that's how the debates were of the seller. They were according to these eight conditions. And this is a story of just came to mind now in Abu Hanifa Rahim Allah, Imam Abu Hanifa, before he engaged in fic, in jurisprudence, he was a he was a theologian, and he debated he said he said himself, I entered Bazzara to debate the CADRE approximately 17 times.
You traveled to Buster just Bursar alone to debate the Korea just the Korea 17 times Korea who denied
pre ordained matters.
So this is we're talking about the halal Quran here. We're talking about the federal Quran here we're talking about the first few generations.
So then he left debating and then he started he engaged in fact and jurisprudence. So once he saw his son, Ahmed,
Abu Hanifa, and he was debating. So he went up to him and he said, Who told you today who give you permission to debate? The father? All my life I've been seeing you debating is that standard? He said when one of us would debate,
the debate the debate debate in time, when one of us would debate we would be so cautious and Allah ROTC appear as though there was a bird standing on his head. This is like a demonstration of being scrupulous and careful, even a bird stand on your head. You don't want to move much to the birds in flight. You want the bird to remain on your head. This is a way of demonstrating how careful they were and they said the reason we would be like this, because we didn't want our interlocutor we did not want our interlocutor to slip because of what we say. In case I might say something
It might be an argument which might lead and force my interlocutor to say something which will be displeasing to Allah. However, Imam Juanita says today I am seeing people, they are saying things as though they want the interlocutor to slip.
So my job, I'm still learning stuff. I wouldn't say I was definitely perfect a few years ago, I'm definitely not perfect now. And I think it's because of age is because of the knotch naturally social media and when you come on social media new, as they say, Cool Russia in Jedi levies, every new thing is tasty, you know, you can all our guns blazing, you know, and then you realize, wait a minute, this is all expensive Quran is all against the Quran. Inshallah. You know, as long as we do, Toba and we rectify ourselves, before we die, Inshallah, there's a chance. Yeah, Inshallah, and I'm a strong believer that eventually over time someone's work will always speak for themselves.
So, you know, just like, for example, today, you know, it's very, very beneficial in terms of talking about the principles. And by the way, I want to, I want to mention to everybody, there's so much more to talk about on this issue, but it will cover a few hours. But hopefully, this was a very good introduction in the analysis of the way of the concerning, you know, Islam, and we've given you a bunch of principles that you could apply in a way that will make your data far more effective. So, yeah, I mean, let's end it there shall I leave you with the last words Insha Allah, then we'll end the broadcast. And then what we'll do, I think, you know, maybe in the future, we could have a cup,
a series that really breaks down the verses, connects them to all the other verses in the Quran, connects it to various ahaadeeth connects it to contemporary scenarios, I think that'd be very beneficial for everybody, Chef. And if you're willing to provide that service for us in the future, that'd be absolutely wonderful, like, online series for everybody, because I really enjoyed it. And I and I felt and it affirmed a few things, then it also basically clarified a few things at the same time. And it shows what kind of leadership we really need in the dowel. I mean, there's great work going on. But I think we all we all need this type of reminder. Because I truly believe that you
know, you know, Baraka will always come with holding on to the principles. You know, I have this saying that, you know, if you have, if you if you
give up your principles for power and authority, then your power and authority will become your weakness. But if you give up your power and authority for principles, then your principles will become your power.
And I believe that's the case with, you know, even in an Islamic context that if you stick to your principles for the sake of Allah, in the long term, it's always going to have benefits and
some Allah bless you, Chef, I leave the last few words with you, then we'll end the broadcast inshallah.
Stan, I think what you've said in Hamdulillah, I think that's sufficient.
Why would end with is, you know, the thing that I started off with is our intention.
Why are we seeking knowledge? Why are we giving Dawa and this is why Imam Muhammad Allah and he started his book with enamel Alma linea. Indeed, it actually will be will be judged according to intentions. And Imam Abu Dawood, Allah Allah He mentions that I have studied 500,000 Hadith and four of them, four of them I have found to be sufficient for personal guidance, four of them, and one of them is in the ML ama the first one in the ML Armello. beanie, because ostentation RIA creeps in very easily, very easily, and this is what the prophet is allowed to Islam feared.
In regards to his OMA, a shekel copy, the subtle shake is ostentation. And so the Omar mentioned the ostentation of two types, some handles so listen to this when I read this I was terrified. There's one ostentation
here which is quite obvious and I'm playing Salah and my father walks
extra in Hulu Hulu. This is clear ostentation, where sometimes we demonstrate ourselves in the public openly that we are showing up. But there's also a certain form of ostentation. And that is this a person who seeks knowledge in solitary.
in isolation, he or she does worship the vicar in isolation they prepare wherever why so in public people can respect them.
For example, I am studying on my own.
I'm doing my record Ibadah why so when I go to the masjid people can respect me, they can call me sharehouse and respect me. This is another form of ostentation,
which is reasserted. So the point is that any armor
We do, whether we do them privately or publicly, privately or publicly, especially our is only for the sake of Allah. And I want to conclude on this. There is this notion now that it's been promoted on social media that the larger
the more acceptance the euro dollar. This is categorically wrong. This is clearly wrong from the Quran. sunnah isn't a Muslim, in the Hadith or Muslim, that many Ambia prophets will be resurrected on the day of judgment and we will not have a single follower.
Single follower stuck for a lot. Can anybody say that? There was deficiency in the dow of just profits? Never high sugar cola. We can never imagine this. Yet. They will have no followers. New Orleans salatu salam Nyeri 50 years we only had a handful of followers. So because there's no social media, this is something you need to talk about. It's about following a lake and Subhanallah I've met certain people who are better than me. But I said that they will not talk to anybody unless the following is a simple amount it comes on par. So if I have 50,000 subscribers, I'm going to talk to someone who is my level if he has only which are 510 subscribers, I'm not going to talk to him. So
we need to change our attitude that we're doing this only for Allah subhana wa we are given our for only for Allah, whether we agree with our in solitary and private on one or two people or whether we give him down from the 10 of 10 million people. We are only giving Dawa for the sake of Allah subhanho wa Taala and we cannot claim I cannot claim I'm sincere Subhana Allah I don't think there's a single day that I've been sincere but what we can do from now inshallah From now onwards, every day we make dua to Allah especially in this is my humble request to the brothers that we pray to the cause, especially the Lord. We pray to the gods every day. And we make to our we make dua for the
preservation of our Eman for Hidayat for the OMA and we make dua for the world the more we make dua for Islam Inshallah, the more ALLAH SubhanA wa Taala will make our Dawa effective inshallah So may Allah First give me the Tofik give us all the ability to act upon what's been said we'll start once again is akmola fade and for this vacation, I actually benefited more than you that you benefited from me. So
I don't think so. tobuy discipleship, Allah bless you definitely be in touch and may Allah grant your future academic success with the with the future PhD and everything else that you do, and inshallah hopefully you'll be at service to us again with regards to analyzing the Quran in the prophetic way. Because it was very insightful. May Allah bless you and reward you and your family and grant you and your family, the best in this life and the best in the life to come. Brothers and sisters. Hopefully you've benefit from this and we'll be in touch very soon there's going to be another live seminar. Hopefully next week, we should be resuming our seminars on the argument from
reason why, you know, basically why atheism is irrational. I think the next one should be on the laws of logic which can be very interesting argument to articulate and MLRS every single one of you is actually a chef salaam aleikum, WA