Haleh Banani – Transform Your Ramadan – Discover – Spreading the Light – With Eddie Redzovic

Haleh Banani
AI: Summary © The speaker discusses the transformation of Ahmed Zucker's behavior, including his journey to Islam and finding his own path. They also talk about his struggles with alcoholism and working in the entertainment industry, but eventually became a martial arts practitioner and a Jedi Jedi. The importance of learning to see one's true values and establishing one's own Islam is emphasized, as well as the need for transparency and transparency in the world. The conversation also touches on the loss of mercy and the importance of good deeds in helping to overcome tragedy, as well as the need for apologizing and educating people on the horrors of recent shootings.
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Brother Wudud.

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Sister Halley, how are you doing today? Alhamdulillah.

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Really good. The guest that we're having today,

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brother Eddie from the Dean show, all of

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you must already know him.

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His life

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is like a Hollywood movie.

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Yeah. Unbelievable

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story about how he came from this place

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of being on the street, nightclubs,

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and prison cell to

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reflecting about what is really the true purpose

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of my life. Yes. Yes. So I'm sure

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everyone is gonna be inspired

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just seeing the transformation because this Ramadan series

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is all about transformation.

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And when we have

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the examples,

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examples of giving up a habit, a bad

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habit and we all struggle with that, whether

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whether it's overeating, whether it's smoking, whether it's

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what you look at, all of those things

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are very challenging, but when we look at

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the example of a person who

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completely

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changes their life around for the sake of

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Allah

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is it's really inspiring. So I know that

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it's gonna be a great interview Insha'Allah.

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Really looking forward to it.

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Me too. So,

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and welcome to a mindful Ramadan

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transformed by the light,

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inspiring

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stories about converts.

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Assalamu alaikum, brother Eddie. Welcome to the program.

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Thank you for having me. Oh, it's a

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pleasure. We've done several shows together.

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I came to Chicago,

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and you hosted

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Clinton's town. The former president. Yeah. What was

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the town? I remember it by that town.

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Bill Clinton.

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Bill Clinton.

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Little Rock. Was that was that it? Yeah.

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Little Rock.

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Little Rock. Yes. Arkansas. Yeah. Arkansas. Oh, so

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it was Arkansas.

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Okay.

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There we go. So,

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you went from the streets of Chicago

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to the hosting your own talk show, and

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really your life is straight out of a

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Hollywood film,

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So we wanna find out about your journey,

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and we have brother Wadhud here as well.

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Everybody.

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It's in, it's exciting to meet brother Eddie

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and do this interview together, Michelle, about our

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mindful Ramadan.

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So tell us, you know, how did it

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all start off? I mean, your childhood

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led a very different lifestyle. You were into

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gangs. You were living it up. You were

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quite successful

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as a non Muslim. And then what happened?

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What was what was the transformation?

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It's, like, I gotta go back in the

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in the memory bank and go back and

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think about those times. It was, and and

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I'm just thankful every time I think about

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it is I'm thankful for the Hidayah. I'm

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thankful to

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the creator of the heavens and earth for

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the guidance because that life, you cannot pay

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me enough money to go back to that

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if you choose guidance

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and misguidance. Right? So it's a life of

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just misguidance, worshiping your desires pretty much. It

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was just about fulfilling the desires, and this

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is what it's it's unfortunate. This is what

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the most people

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are doing. And,

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Allah

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guided me, and,

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it's such a such a blessing.

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Was there a pivotal moment

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that just kinda ignited your journey to Islam?

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Well, you know, my parents are from the

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former Yugoslavia,

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so they're Bosnian. And when that broke up,

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you have Croatia. This is more

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Catholic. Serbians are Orthodox Christian, and Bosians are

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supposed

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are traditionally,

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Muslim.

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Mhmm. But they weren't practicing,

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And I really didn't have that in my

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upbringing except for my grandparents. And then what

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happened was

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I ended up going through life and

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having the things that

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money can buy and all of the other

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nice pleasures and whatnot that come with that.

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And then I just start to ask the

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supposed to be at, the nightclubs, you go

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get your burrito at 3, 4 in the

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morning. Mhmm. And then you're just like, hey.

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Was it's like we've done this so many

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times. It's like, is this really what we're

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gonna keep doing? Is it is there and

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and people know, like, we'll have these deep

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conversations, but then some go towards the path

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of seeking sincerely guidance and then others don't.

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So what what triggered it was, me earnestly

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wanting

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and seeking, and then signs would come. I

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remember one Ramadan came, and I was like,

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okay. I'm gonna stop. I'm not gonna drink

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this Ramadan. And that's, like, kind of a

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a a thing in the Bosnian community a

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lot of times is maybe they'll give up.

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I don't know my other communities, but in

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Bosnian community, this is for my community where

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I was from is, this was a big

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thing now. Okay. I'm gonna give up something,

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but then Ramadan ends, and then you're back

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drinking. Right? So I I remember gay gave

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up, alcohol for that month, and I was

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just contemplating thinking. And then story, I I

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would hear stories. I

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I was starting to read,

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more about Islam.

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I read a book by doctor Ahmed Zakkar

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called Life, Death, and the Grave.

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I remember him. He's such a You remember

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him? Kind man yesterday from Lebanon. Oh, yeah.

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Yeah. Very nice. I read that. I, actually,

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I I went back to my uncle. My

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uncle is a chiropractor, and, he used to

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patch me up, when I used to get

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in fights and whatnot and give me something

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to see how and whatnot. But a lot

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of times, it was in one ear or

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the other because you're fixated, like, on certain

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things that you gotta accomplish and get. And

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I was accomplishing those things, but then finally,

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it started to blossom and grow, And I

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went back to him. He was the first

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one I back went back to when I

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heard this story about someone being punished in

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the grave, and they dug up the grave

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and the body just looked really, like, tore

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up. And then I was like, how does

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it what is this like? And I was

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like, okay, we're going to go into the

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grave one day.

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And then I went to tell the story

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to my uncle. He gave me this book,

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life, death and the hereafter.

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And I read this book, and I was

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just fascinated. So that kicked it off. And

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then from there, I started to listen to,

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I wanted to make sure, okay, my parents,

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I come from a background Muslim, but I

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want to make sure what the question was

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like, how do I not know? What about

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all these other religions? Like, what about Christianity?

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What about Buddhism? What about all these religions?

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So I started to take a deep dive

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into all the different world religions. And,

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I watched some Ahmed Dida. He had these

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debates going on that really was like, wow.

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That blew blew me away.

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And then the journey began.

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Masha'Allah. So first was that lack of just

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lack of fulfillment, thinking what is my purpose.

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Then it was about

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questioning what's gonna happen when I die, and

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that verse, like,

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Right? That is the one thing that wakes

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everybody up, and then you started just seeking,

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and that's what creates the the transformation when

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you're actually looking for it. Brother Wadhud, would

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you like to reflect on that? Yeah. I

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was just thinking about Ahmed Zucker that you

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said you mentioned him. I remember growing up

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in the nineties and him coming to Dallas

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for all these fundraising, and then he used

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to say, you know, don't deposit your money

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to BOA, Bank of America. Deposit your money

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in BOA, Bank of Akera. You know, he

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used to say that that's in his nice.

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I remember I remember him, and it's it

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was a blessing that we got to see

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him, you know, before he started deteriorating.

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Like, bless him. May Allah fill his grave

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with more. Mommy. And, it's beautiful that, you

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know, he's someone, one of the pioneers in

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this country that wrote books and have so

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many books, and he was just always out

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trying to support the communities and Muslims.

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And it's just reminding me of that.

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And that book, you can see, like and

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he probably doesn't he doesn't know what's happening,

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but his book

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affected me.

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Yes. His book affected

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me to think deeper. To really I read

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that book quick. I think it was, like,

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200 pages. I read that book faster than

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I think I read any other book,

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and that really just turned things on for

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me. And everything that you're doing is now

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on his scale. And Yes. So

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what happened? What was that transformation

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like? You had to make so many changes,

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and our Ramadan program is all about transformation,

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changing your behavior,

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becoming a better version of ourselves, and that

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was really hard because you had to give

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up so many habits, so many behaviors.

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What helped you through that transformation?

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I mean, the the thing okay. Deaf. Deaf

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was something that scared me. It just scared

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me straight. I really was scared

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of and I started reading more books on

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death, and I was like, wow. This is

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really, like, serious. I can die tomorrow. You

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just we're just living in la la land

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thinking, like, we got time. Shaitan is fooling

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us and whatnot, and you're procrastinating.

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I didn't wanna procrastinate. So okay. So what

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does my creator what does he want from

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me? First thing is salah. Okay? I would

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and I wasn't one of those. It took

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me time, years to establish. No. That was,

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like, right dead on. I remember Kat Stevens,

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Use of Islam, his book that he had.

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He had a audio also. I started swallowing

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up. Back then, it was VHS,

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and I started ordering all of the things

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that's out there. You know? It's like it

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said Islam. I was like, just give it

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to me. I didn't really know, like, hey.

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This is a good attempt, whatever.

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I was just like, Allah, guide me, please.

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You know? And I ended up listening to,

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his. I read some of his stuff on

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the prayer. He had some really good things,

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and I remember not knowing. I was just

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like, okay. Learning how to pray. So I'd

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have the book, and I'd be listening with

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the earphones. I remember that, and I'd just

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be going through the the motions learning the

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prayers. I established the prayer. And that prayer

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even

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the prayer, I remember because that was the

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thing that took some time transitioning because I

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I used to be really involved into the

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entertainment,

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nightclub industry, and whatnot. So Mhmm. Now I

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still I want my livelihood and everything was

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there, so it took some time to get

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out of there. But I I gave up

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alcohol, but then it was like being in

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an environment without alcohol. It was like being

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around a bunch of zombies. It was like

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it was a nightmare.

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And I remember I would leave

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at certain I would leave the place apart,

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and I'd go Faja was coming in to

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leave the car. So I can take a

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lesson from that that indeed I mean, the

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prayer is so

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connecting with Allah, and then slowly the change.

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It took time. It took time, and then

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other things you start leaving off step by

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step by step.

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That's powerful. That you had the discipline. I

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believe you're a is it a boxer? You're

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you're doing martial arts. Is it jiu jitsu?

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Yep. Gracie jiu jitsu. Yes. Brazilian jiu jitsu.

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Okay. Brazilian jiu jitsu. So you had the

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discipline. I think that you tapped into that

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discipline.

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Yeah. Absolutely. Yes. Yes.

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I wasn't whatever I do, I try to

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do it to the best of my with.

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I wasn't playing. Yeah.

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Was that was that something that you were

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trained at before you kind of came back

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to Islam

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and started finding Islam, the Brazilian jiu jitsu,

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that that discipline, or is that after?

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Islam gave me more gave me more structure

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in my life, gave me more discipline, but

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I, obviously, I had some of those qualities.

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And Islam just, enhanced them to a whole

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another level. Yep. Yeah.

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And you just recently

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had an amazing conversion.

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Could you tell us about that? The jujitsu

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practitioner,

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Royce Gracie,

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just embraced Islam. I think it was last

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week. I saw your post on it.

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Yes.

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So what happened in the background to that

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was that we had my cousin. He had

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booked

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a seminar with him, and he was somebody

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that I had also started with training with.

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He was part of the main academy, the

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Gracie Academy.

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And I remember him reffing for my fights

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in my early years

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at a tournament, and then he's the one

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who gave me my first belt, the blue

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belt. Oh, wow. I used I used to

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travel out to Torrance, California. That's where Horian

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Gracie Horian Gracie was the founder of the

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Ultimate Fighting

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Championship, his older brother. He's the one who

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started the UFC. Many people now know Dana

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White and they I know Khabib.

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But before

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Khabib, Dana White,

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and they were involved, you had Gracie's, Horian

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Gracie, and then Royce Gracie who's the one

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he's like the Michael Jordan

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of jujitsu of the martial arts world. Oh,

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wow. When you say Michael Jordan, some people

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still might not know who hoist Gracie is,

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but he's like the Michael Jordan of the

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martial arts.

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And what happened was that he had posted

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something.

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So the seminar was set up in Bosnia,

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and then he had posted something out there

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supporting

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the

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what's happening in Gaza. The genocide was happening.

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He posted something in favor of, Israel.

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Wow. And that just set things off. So

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then I spoke to my cousin, and I

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said, look.

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Why don't you I think he's there's a

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lot of conditioning, a lot of programming. We

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need to educate the people. Let's let's take

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this as a learning opportunity

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because most people just don't know. You know,

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the mainstream media is very it's like almost

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magic on the people like Sid. Right? Mhmm.

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And,

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so then I said, let's invite him on.

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I've had him on the program before. I

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said, so invite him on. Let's see if

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he'd like to hear the other side

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of what's going on, what's really going on.

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And then he said, yeah. I I'd like

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that. So I think that was a really

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positive step that somebody's willing to talk, willing

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to discuss, and willing to listen to us.

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So then he came down. He drove down.

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I happened to be at the Dean Center.

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He came down there. He took the initiative.

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He came down, and I had also.

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Even Farooq was there. We're planning to do

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the the next day, the opening

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for the soft opening for the Masjid, and

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he's giving What's the the foodbah. So, Alhamdulillah,

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we made it that far. And then so

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he came and we had

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back and forth. He's asking questions, this, that,

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and the other. And he's asking, like, so

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how do I go to Mecca? And before

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that so before that, when he walked into

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the Masjid, his son asked, what what is

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that over there? And I have a bunch

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of dawah materials. And Uh-huh. He said, what's

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that over there? And he's pointing to the

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translation of the Quran. So I walked over

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there. I said, oh, this is the, the

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Quran. Let me give you guys a gift.

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And his son said his son said, I've

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been meaning to read this. Oh, so And

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we we started having Ramadans coming around and

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then we start before before we start the

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program. His son is already asking questions and

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his father has his input. And I remember

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catching him. I asked him something around, Jesus

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because they're from Brazil, and Brazil is probably

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really Catholic.

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And now,

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I asked them about Jesus. Do you believe

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he's he's son of god, god? He said,

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no. I believe he's a I asked, do

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you believe he's a messenger? He said, yes.

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I believe he's a messenger. That makes it

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a lot easier when they don't see it's

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a okay. That was good. You got that

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cleared. Yes. So and then he was talking

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about he doesn't, eat pork, he doesn't drink,

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stuff like that, but I can never fast.

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He's like, I could never fast. I don't

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know how you guys do it. This is

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off camera. Then we get on camera. The

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subject comes up again somehow.

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So we start educating him on what's going

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on in Gaza. We start educating him about

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the apartheid, the oppressive state, about, you know,

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making, examples of, if somebody came into your

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home, put you in the basement, and, really,

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what's going on over there? Then we shift

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over to the other topic. He asked if

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we can go how can you go to

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Mecca? So then I say, this is the

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easiest visa. All you have

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to say is I define what that is.

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I like that. I'm gonna use that. Easiest

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visa. Alright. Yeah. I define what that is.

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The sheikh talks about the he just break

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The sheikh is breaking things down. He's agree.

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Yes. I agree. Yes. That's I agree with

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that. Then we shift back, educating him. He's

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asking questions about Philistine, Gaza, dada, and then

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at the end, he, he pretty much, ended

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up taking the Shahada. Yeah. Allahu Akbar.

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And what a figure to take the Shahada.

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That's going to cause,

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an earthquake, I think, and it already has.

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Right?

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May Allah,

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help him to really

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take, Islam serious and to really establish it

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in his life. And it's our job to

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go ahead and convey and do our Yes.

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Art. And then now

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but to see that shift, to see somebody

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who came and sat with us, talked with

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us, and and then to see him agree

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with everything that we believe in with Islam

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and Incredible.

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Brother Wadhud, any reflections on that? Yeah. It's

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a beautiful story. I was just fascinated. I

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felt like I lost all my train of

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thought, and I was really into that story.

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I saw you were really immersed.

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That story. But, brother Eddie, something that we

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are trying to ask this Ramadan,

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all our guests,

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in terms of how does that begin? Like,

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the transformation you talked about earlier, you made

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it seem very easy. Of course, it was

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not easy. I'm sure you're you're coming from

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very difficult environment surrounding,

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but in, like, less than 2 minutes, you

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said step by step by step,

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I was able to come out of that.

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Mhmm. So Muslims that are trying to go

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into this Ramadan thinking that I am going

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to give up my bad habits

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or new Muslims, converts that are coming into

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this Ramadan and thinking that I want to

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get closer to God, the reason that I

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I came into the faith. How do we

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take that first step? How do we find

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ourselves and not get distracted? What are some

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tools here? Me and, sister Halabanani, we've discussed

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this before at length, and there's no magic

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formula.

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And I take it from my experiences

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there in that transition, there was certain things

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that I had to do. One was what

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was helping me was the fueling of knowledge.

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Just constantly taking in the knowledge.

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Knowledge makes sense. It's not something I have

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to, like, force myself to believe, like a

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trinity, God being a man, a human being,

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things that just don't make sense, something strange.

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I remember sitting around one time and I

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was I had this kind of mystical music,

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and I was

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just sitting there just waiting for something overtake

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me because I was really, like I remember

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sitting up late at night hearing Tony Robbins,

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just ordering all of his stuff, you know,

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the the infomercials.

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Right. And the

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awaken the power within. Yeah. He's got a

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lot of good stuff on there. No problem.

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I was searching, and then I remember even

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doing that, sitting around, and I'm just waiting

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like some like the Christians. They they have

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this concept. The Holy Ghost takes over them.

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It's not like that in Islam. It's something

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that the truth comes, the guidance comes,

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and you you submit to it, and then

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you start implementing the things. And then your

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iman starts to go up. Your face to

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increase, and that's what was happening. Another key

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point was the friends there. I mean, I

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really wanted good for them, and I was

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out you know, right away, I was like,

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man, if I just show this to him,

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I remember going to Brazil, and

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I would take Dawah materials. I say, man,

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if I just get them to read this,

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they'll be enjoying this with me. And that's

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the beginning, those sweet stages of Mhmm. Of

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iman. Like, I mean, the the Sweetness of

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iman. When you start tasting the benefit It

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it's, like, you know, amazing. I was just

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at on a cloud night. You know? Love

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it. So you were getting, like, the true

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high. Right? Like, it wasn't Exactly.

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Oh, much so I I remember going to

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the my instructors and even the head, Carlos

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Gracie junior. He's,

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Hoists' I believe cousin or and then his

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father developed the art. And I remember going

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there. It's a main academy, and I was

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like, man, how I had this courage. And

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I'm sat and sitting there, he

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I gave him a gift. I gave him

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For us. Gave him the, I gave him

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a copy of the Quran. I gave

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him a brief illustrator guy to understanding Islam.

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Mhmm. And he's we started going off, and

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he started talking about jinn and the magic

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healers there in their country that they have,

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and they they got these, beliefs now of

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religion that they're weird. And

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so everything that they've seen around them, so

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they've gone away from from religion. So it

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was a very interesting conversation, but I just

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look back and I,

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it was just the the hunger, the zeal.

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And then going back to the point I

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wanted to make was friends. I had to

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make

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my friends people that now I disattach with

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because they're either taking you up or down.

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And the friends, they weren't, like, really

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even the love I had for them, but

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it wasn't their time, and they really weren't

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accepting. So either I was gonna stay and

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they're gonna take me back down, or I

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had to distance myself. And that's that's something

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that is very is crucial is the companionship

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that you have.

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This keeps coming up again and again with

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other hosts, and, really, a friend can be

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like an anchor, an anchor not in a

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positive way. It's something that just takes you

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down.

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Right? And so it it is important sometimes

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to detach yourself from the the negative influence.

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Very good. And so you were getting this

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high. You're benefiting. You're trying to help your

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friends. They're not only coming on board.

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And is that what fueled you to start

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the talk show? 1st, tell us about the

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talk show because you were, like, the first

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Muslim

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to have this talk show,

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and then tell us about, like, the Dawah

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Center.

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That's a good question. Thank you.

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So what happened was that was one example,

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going to Brazil

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and sharing there. I just naturally, no one

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told me that, Daul was something that was

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essential part of Islam that we had to

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get out there and share.

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And I just started doing it because I

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believed in it was something that was, it

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made sense, worship the creator, one God alone.

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And the purpose of life was clear. Everything

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was clear. So I just started to, you

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know, with my friends, my family,

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and some would accept, some would reject. At

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some good times, some very sad times also.

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But then what happened was, I was planning

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my first Hajj. I said, okay. Earlier I

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said, okay. What does my creator? What does

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Allah want from me? We got salah now

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that was established.

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There's a cat fasting, so to implement these

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things. And then now the Hajj.

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So it was,

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2,006.

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And I was like, okay. Hajj has a

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lot of different steps.

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Let's record this,

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and we'll see.

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We had the shit come out

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and we had a little panel discussion. I

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recorded it and I was like, he liked

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it. And I said, wow. This can be

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a good way that I can reach a

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lot of people. I was like, okay. I'm

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going individually

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talking to people, but this this is a

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great way. YouTube, I just started at at

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that

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time. So then I invited the shade back

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out. Which year was this?

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2006.

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Okay. Wow.

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Yeah. But it took it took time to

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build up to 2,006,

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but that's when we initially started the program.

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And from there, we just kicked it off.

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We had

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more filmings with the with this one shake,

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and then we just started to post our

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stuff on the,

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YouTube. Then we got connected

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to the CAN TV Chicago access on the

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cable station, took some classes there, and,

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just continued to grow.

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That motivation to spread

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this spread Islam. You just wanted to take

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that passion and share it. My my main

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thing was also that what was being attributed

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to Islam was something opposite to what it

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was. I'll give you example.

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When I was taking some brothers, my son

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and this other brother to get some, some

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food to eat in the morning, I was

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driving the rental car. And as I was

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driving, I heard this noise. The car starts

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pulling to the right, and then it starts

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getting louder. And then we stop at the

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stops, light, and I asked the brother, did

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you hear that? He said, yes. He jumps

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out when I stop the car. He said,

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you got a flat tire.

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Okay. So we push on, and we get

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to the, Panera Bread.

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And there's a juice place I wanted to

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take them there. So we get there. It's

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a few minutes away. Anyways, long story short,

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I had to change the tire. I said,

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okay. Good opportunity. Let me show him show

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my take the good from it. Show my

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son how to change the tires. It's a

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it's a life skill. So as I'm changing

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the tire,

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a gentleman comes up because the car fell.

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I took off the tire. Now I'm gonna

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put the dummy tire. I took the tire

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and put it under the car for safety.

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But the way I put the jack as

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I start to lift up more to put

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actually, whatnot jack, but this way,

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the car actually fell. So the guy saw

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it,

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and he came. He said, what what what's

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going on, guys? You need some help, and

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that's happened to me before. You gotta put

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the jack like this.

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He gets on there under there, and he

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starts helping out, and I'll never forget this.

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So

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when we finish, we we have a good

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conversation with him. And I remember asking him

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this question after we we got into, obviously,

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So I was like and this is a

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common reoccurrence. I asked

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this many times. So what does he know?

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He knows nothing, but he he is worse.

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That's it. Just Islam and the propaganda. The

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propaganda. So he's not even in a neutral.

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He's in the negative. Yeah. Yeah. So that

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was something even back then, it was probably

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much worse. It's, again, reignited again. So this

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is the state of Americans. Over 300,000,000 of

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them

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here that they know nothing about Islam, and

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what they do know is something negative.

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So that was what motivated me to get

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the correct information

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and the guidance at the end of the

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day. It took me a while to finally

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understand that the guidance is in the hands

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of Allah, but you get rewarded for even

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trying just to do your best to go

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ahead and convey the message and to clear

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up some of these, myths and misconceptions.

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Amazing. Sister Halley, I'm gonna share just a

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quick reflection

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that I was thinking about. I mean, there's

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a lot that brother Eddie is sharing, and

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I'm just taking it in. Mela bless you,

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and Mela make it a source of inspiration

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for all of us that, he talked about

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just taking in the knowledge.

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And, you know, there's a reason that

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the meditation, contemplation, reflection, you know, it was

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a backdrop before we started seeking knowledge. It's

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very prophetic. Like, if you think about

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Abraham or Ibrahim alaihis salam or the prophet,

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there was a sense of reflection of, like,

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who is God? You know, where is God?

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And Ibrahim alaihis salam goes through this cycle

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of reflection, meditation, contemplation.

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Same thing with the prophet withdrawing himself from

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the distraction, getting into a sense you know,

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a sacred space of meditation. Brother Eddie is

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reflecting on death, reflecting on the hereafter, reflecting

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on where is my life? Where am I

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heading? That's that reflection, you know, the that's

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deep, like, reflection of,

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the meditation,

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contemplation

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that Islam talks about.

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It helps you unlock what is already within

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yourself that we have witnessed. Our souls have

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witnessed God.

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We know deep down, but to unlock it,

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we have to, like, meditate, contemplate, sometimes disconnect

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from all the distraction,

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and that was a backdrop. You know, it's

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very prophetic if you think about this this

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journey. The second thing is after that meditation,

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reflection, contemplation, now the angel appears from Allah

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and says,

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read.

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And now the knowledge.

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And he started seeking knowledge.

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He's getting into the knowledge, and he's getting

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everything he can get his hands on on

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knowledge and the prophecy. And a lot of

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times people ask me, like, okay, brother Lula,

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I understand this mindfulness meditation. All that is

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really good. Where do I start? And I

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say, you know that reading is a form

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of meditation.

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Writing is a form of it. You can't

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you can't be distracted and read at the

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same time. You can be distracted and write

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at the same time. You know? So read

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and write, reading, and a and a few

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hours later,

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Allah teaches you by the pen. So reflecting,

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meditating

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with reading,

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in this Ramadan, if there is one way

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that you wanna get closer to God, pick

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up 1 or 2 books that you would

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like to read that'll take you closer to

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understanding who God is, names of Allah, for

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example, what hereafter is like, what your purpose

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of life is like. You know, just picking

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up a few books, surrounding yourself with reading

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is such a beautiful way to kinda, like,

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go deeper.

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The third thing that I really took away

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from this reflection from brother Eddie was the

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heart, his heart. No one told him about

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Dawa.

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No one told him to do this. You

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know, for many of us, we we know

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about Dawa, and we think, like, a 100

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times, how do I even do this? No

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one had to even tell him anything. It

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just came from his

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heart. And that just you know, that gave

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me that principle of Islam. Like, what's up,

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Allah? If you're mindful of God, if you

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have that connection with God, you

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Allah will teach you.

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God gave him that inspiration, and he was

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not he was just real. Right? He's not

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seeking anyone's validation.

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Right. He's not seeking anything from anyone, but

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it's just, like, what makes sense in my

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heart, that's what's gonna flow. Much so. What

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is some beautiful reflection, therefore,

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you know, from his journey that I feel

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can become, like, our tools

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of transformation. If we want transformation,

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contemplate, meditate,

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read, and connect your heart to God.

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Alright. That was a very profound reflection,

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brother, while I do it. I loved it.

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Thank you so much.

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And something that you said, brother Eddie, is

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about the 300,000,000

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Americans that are either misinformed

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or don't know Islam. And I remember when

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you were doing your advertisements for the Dean

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Center, and we would love to hear more

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about that. That was something you kept emphasizing,

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that there are 300,000,000

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people, and they don't know about Islam, and

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it's our responsibility.

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So what gives you the drive, and what

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how did you come up with that the

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concept of the Dean Center?

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I've always wanted to now

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just take things to a level where we

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can reach more people, that we can go

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ahead and

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have a better production,

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and, alhamdulillah, Allah opened up the way. So

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that's what the Deen

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Centre is about. So we first phase,

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the masjid.

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We're able to purchase the property. Now the

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masjid, we just had the opening,

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and we established the jummas, the prayers there.

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It's in Florida. Correct? Ma'am, yes. Yes. In

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Florida. Made you do it in Florida? You

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live in Chicago.

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So I'm going, back and forth now Wow.

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Once a month, 2 weeks at a time,

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usually k. Out of the month. I like

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Florida better than Chicago.

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Okay. And and and to get something like

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this in Chicago

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Mhmm. Most people who've come out from even

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other cities like Philly

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or, California,

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they're like, to get something this size

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and make sure you guys stop by when

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you're in the in the area. To. Yes.

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It's it's literally almost one city block as

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far as I built. I'm a So this

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would be probably in the over $10,000,000

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to get a property like this.

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That's, one main reason also

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is what you're able to purchase, the purchase

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price, and then the growing community there is

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also

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something that triggered that. It's a it's a

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really

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growing community in the area, and it's well

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needed. And I and I had seen many

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different properties. Right. And what's interesting about this

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also is that I was doing a lot

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of we were doing window shopping, looking, looking,

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looking. There was really not nothing that just

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kind of fit to what we wanted to

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do. You have to change some of the

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the the the zoning. It it wasn't set

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up the way you have to go through

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a lot of paperwork for just to get

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it. And then the construction, you have to

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build it out the way you want it.

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But then finally,

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this came up. It was like the day

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of.

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The realtor said, hey. This just popped up.

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You wanna go see it? So it wasn't

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even on the list of properties.

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So that was something like, wow.

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And then I said, okay. Let's go see

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it. And that was we had a list

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of properties, and we went to see that

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one. I said, this fits. You know, when

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something like you don't have to force it,

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the other one was like,

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yeah. But and it was getting to the

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point we had already exhausted

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so many different properties.

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So I was like, okay. You gotta just

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choose 1. Okay? Then it's like, okay. Do

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I almost like selling yourself short. You gotta

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make it somehow fit, but this just fit

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in every which my because you have to

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the the first building

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now

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is a dawah center, the mega dawah center.

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So people have an exhibition. They come in

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there. The learning stations, live filming. We have

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Inshallah. We have,

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our recording studio.

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And then for the second building, you have

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the

00:31:01 --> 00:31:04

the masjid. Then the 3rd 4th, we haven't

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even started on. Then you have the 5th,

00:31:05 --> 00:31:07

the facility, and then not even talk about

00:31:07 --> 00:31:09

the outside 4 acres

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that you can go ahead and put the

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basketball courts and do all the youth activities.

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This is such a such a vision, such

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a vision that you had. And when I

00:31:20 --> 00:31:22

reflect back to you have talked about your

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childhood

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before in some of the previous interviews,

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and you had immigrant parents, and they were

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they were quite busy, and you started hanging

00:31:30 --> 00:31:31

out with people

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maybe of not the best influence and maybe

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subconsciously,

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you are creating this to create a safe

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haven for people.

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Because imagine

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if you had a Dean Center back then.

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Right? So instead of hanging out in the

00:31:46 --> 00:31:48

street, you have this beautiful

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positive environment

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where you're able to enjoy yourself and yet

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be in the company of of Muslims and

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this can be Inshallah,

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replicated

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in in many of the states, and we

00:32:01 --> 00:32:02

need to have a Deen center

00:32:03 --> 00:32:04

in in every state, Inshallah.

00:32:05 --> 00:32:08

Inshallah. That'll be the that's the vision Inshallah.

00:32:08 --> 00:32:10

Inshallah. If Allah opens up the doors, then

00:32:10 --> 00:32:11

that's

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that'd be something that Inshallah I love to

00:32:13 --> 00:32:14

do. Inshallah.

00:32:15 --> 00:32:17

Unbelievable. So, Tara, can I ask a quick

00:32:17 --> 00:32:19

final question? Of course. Of course. The question

00:32:19 --> 00:32:20

to brother Eddie is

00:32:21 --> 00:32:22

a lot of times people are in this

00:32:22 --> 00:32:24

doubt, self doubt. Like, who am I to

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do anything? How am I gonna make any

00:32:26 --> 00:32:28

difference? Do I really have any bandwidth to

00:32:28 --> 00:32:29

do anything?

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And they don't find themselves or their value

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or their meaning or their purpose, and how

00:32:33 --> 00:32:34

can they make an impact.

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And it seemed like as soon as you

00:32:36 --> 00:32:38

found the truth, you just didn't wait. You

00:32:38 --> 00:32:41

just went for it. So what guidance do

00:32:41 --> 00:32:42

you have? Anything that you wanna leave behind

00:32:42 --> 00:32:45

for the audience in terms of finding their

00:32:45 --> 00:32:47

potential to make an impact? I mean, go

00:32:47 --> 00:32:49

back to, what we just started on. This

00:32:49 --> 00:32:51

life is very and it's not just cliche.

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We just say it. I mean, honestly, I

00:32:53 --> 00:32:55

could just reflect back in when we first

00:32:55 --> 00:32:57

met and just when we started and and

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how time had just flown by. You have

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a limited amount of time. What are you

00:33:01 --> 00:33:03

you gonna do with it? What are you

00:33:03 --> 00:33:05

gonna leave behind? Everything's gonna stay behind, but

00:33:05 --> 00:33:07

the things now that will carry on over

00:33:07 --> 00:33:09

and this is very important. Just do your

00:33:09 --> 00:33:11

part. Everyone has something that they can contribute.

00:33:11 --> 00:33:12

Not everybody has to be in front of

00:33:12 --> 00:33:15

the camera. Not every somebody can be helping

00:33:15 --> 00:33:16

behind the scenes. Something that you dedicate

00:33:17 --> 00:33:18

some kind of time

00:33:18 --> 00:33:21

towards something that will not just benefit you

00:33:21 --> 00:33:23

in this benefit people and help create a

00:33:23 --> 00:33:25

legacy in this life, but in the next

00:33:25 --> 00:33:26

life. And then I think this is very

00:33:26 --> 00:33:28

important because we get caught up with the

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dunya, and that's it. It takes over, and

00:33:31 --> 00:33:33

we forget that we will die. And then

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what's

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going to be helping us to rack up

00:33:35 --> 00:33:37

those good deeds on the scale that's gonna

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help us to get a lost mercy. Because,

00:33:39 --> 00:33:41

obviously, it's not just because of the deeds.

00:33:41 --> 00:33:42

It's the lost mercy, but it's a manifestation

00:33:42 --> 00:33:44

of your faith and belief are the good

00:33:44 --> 00:33:45

deeds. Right?

00:33:46 --> 00:33:48

So and this is this is something that

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all the prophets and messengers, this is their

00:33:50 --> 00:33:51

main mission to get out there and to

00:33:52 --> 00:33:53

share this beautiful message.

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Beautiful. Beautiful.

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And I wanna honor your time, but do

00:33:59 --> 00:34:01

we have time for one last question? Yes.

00:34:01 --> 00:34:01

Yes?

00:34:02 --> 00:34:04

Okay. Yes. So, you know, we have witnessed

00:34:04 --> 00:34:07

the past 5 months just so much destruction,

00:34:07 --> 00:34:11

so much death, so much horrific acts that

00:34:11 --> 00:34:11

the Palestinians

00:34:12 --> 00:34:13

have gone through.

00:34:13 --> 00:34:15

And I just wonder when you look at

00:34:15 --> 00:34:17

this and you reflect, what have you learned

00:34:17 --> 00:34:18

from their

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resilience or from how they are

00:34:21 --> 00:34:21

handling

00:34:22 --> 00:34:24

such tragedy? Sometimes young children

00:34:25 --> 00:34:27

are teaching adults and world leaders

00:34:28 --> 00:34:30

life lessons. What have you learned from this

00:34:30 --> 00:34:31

experience?

00:34:32 --> 00:34:34

Well, I can package a lot. That's, really

00:34:34 --> 00:34:36

deep there. I've done a lot of programs

00:34:36 --> 00:34:37

on this,

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and a lot of masks have come off.

00:34:39 --> 00:34:41

That's the the one thing. We see a

00:34:41 --> 00:34:43

lot of people who

00:34:43 --> 00:34:45

you would think had human have humanity,

00:34:46 --> 00:34:47

but now we're we're seeing

00:34:48 --> 00:34:50

never again seem like it was just a

00:34:50 --> 00:34:53

cliche. And we're seeing right now in 4

00:34:53 --> 00:34:54

k a

00:34:54 --> 00:34:57

genocide and Netflix cleansing happening. Mhmm. And the

00:34:57 --> 00:34:59

world is just sitting there and the world's

00:34:59 --> 00:34:59

leaders

00:35:00 --> 00:35:01

of the, genocide Joe and these kind of

00:35:01 --> 00:35:03

people are just sitting there. I mean, there's

00:35:03 --> 00:35:05

I could just go on and on. There's

00:35:05 --> 00:35:06

just so many things. But to see the

00:35:06 --> 00:35:08

resilience of people, I did a program where

00:35:08 --> 00:35:09

you had

00:35:10 --> 00:35:12

not an non Muslims, not yet Muslims out

00:35:12 --> 00:35:15

there, and they're seeing they're seeing the Palestinians,

00:35:16 --> 00:35:17

which by the way, you have Christians also

00:35:17 --> 00:35:20

are Palestinians. Mhmm. But in this case, we're

00:35:20 --> 00:35:22

talking about the Muslims saying, Alhamdulillah.

00:35:23 --> 00:35:25

They're praising Allah, the most high.

00:35:25 --> 00:35:27

They're not seeing their

00:35:27 --> 00:35:30

so and so. They're not cursing and whatnot.

00:35:30 --> 00:35:32

And they're these these non Muslims are like,

00:35:32 --> 00:35:34

I wanna read the Quran. I I'm like,

00:35:34 --> 00:35:35

what's with these Muslims?

00:35:36 --> 00:35:37

And you had a lot of them. I

00:35:37 --> 00:35:40

remembered doing this, and the ladies now who's

00:35:40 --> 00:35:42

our sister. She's without the hijab. She wants

00:35:42 --> 00:35:44

late she's wearing the hijab. She actually took

00:35:44 --> 00:35:46

the shawarma because we sister is this? I

00:35:46 --> 00:35:47

don't know her name, but I didn't interview

00:35:47 --> 00:35:49

her, but she had a clip. These were

00:35:49 --> 00:35:50

TikTok videos.

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Oh, we got one of those. We got

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one of the most famous ones on this

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program, Megan Rice.

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And she was the one who's like, how

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do they have a clad iron

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belief and faith? And someone is like someone

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told her in the comment section,

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girl, that's Islam. Look it up. And that

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made her look up the Quran, and she

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started a book club with 16 16,000 people,

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non Muslims, reading the Quran with her, which

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and she she embraced Islam and put on

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the jobless. She's probably she's probably one of

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them. Yeah. That we so we see that,

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And then we see a lot of the

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projection I've seen. I've I've interviewed people like

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Max Blumenthal and, investigative journalists. I've had, rabbis,

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orthodox

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rabbis, to show that this is not something

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that is because the picture that the they're

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trying to paint, and this is a Muslim

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Jew thing. And this is such hogwash. This

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is such nonsense

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because we don't have a history of persecuting

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Jews.

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No. No. No. Not at all. The Palestinians

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welcome them. When they were being persecuted in

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Europe, they opened up their

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homes, and this is the this is the

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tragedy. This is the tragedy that most people

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don't know. Exactly. So we go ahead and

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clarify this. We bring this to light, and

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it's a very sad state. The mass are

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coming off, and we pray for our brothers

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and sisters there. Oh, yeah. Palestine,

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Mela Free Palestine. And, I mean, the people

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of humanity step up. You do also on

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the flip side. You have a lot of

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people's perception changing. Now they're they're getting to

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see through the lies and through the programming.

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Right. They're getting to see this place, the

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state,

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really more than what it's been painted out

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to be, and it's not just coming from

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me. I have I have rabbis on the

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show coming out and calling them for this

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apartheid,

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racist state. This is a state that now

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Jews who who went there thinking that this

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was some Disneyland, they got to see it.

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One story that fascinated me was I could

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just share this with you. So is it

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rabbi David? I got him on a show,

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and he's telling me, like, look. I went

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there,

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and then I saw this kid. He was

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injured. A little kid. He had a cut

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or something on his hand. I took him

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to the proper authorities,

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and they said he spoke some Hebrew, and

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they said,

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get what are you doing? Get this Arab

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out of here. Right?

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And he was, like, stuck. He was, like,

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he was, like,

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he was in a state of cognitive dissonance,

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he said, for almost 30 years until he's

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he snapped out of it. Now he's on

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the front line speaking

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on behalf of, the truth.

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Bless you all. And we would be also

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I wanna make this point. As Muslims, I'm

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sure you would agree. If this was happening

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to Jewish people because it's all human life

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is precious, we as Muslims would be sitting

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there

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against

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killing of any innocent. Absolutely.

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Am I correct?

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Absolutely.

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No doubt about it. And history shows that

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even I remember being in Spain,

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and the tour guide said when Muslims

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were in control, when they were in

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power,

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we lived in peace and harmony for, like,

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7 or 800 years,

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and they take pride in that and they

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talk about it, And so this is it's

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such an important point you bring up. Let

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me if you guys know who held the

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keys also for our Christian

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brothers and sisters out there. Right? Yeah. And

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it's a shame that you have 80% of

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Zionists

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are and this is the differentiation. There's a

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differentiations as the Jewish rabbis would tell us.

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Zionism has hijacked Judaism. Yes. For our Christians

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out there

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that the Muslims held the keys for the

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the oldest churches in Palestine for 800 years.

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There's another thing, like, you know, it's very

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important. Jews, Christians, Muslims lived in a relative

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peace. I don't know if you know his

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history. This is very important if you've heard

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of, dispensationalism.

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When I asked

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a senior,

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Christian pastor, I said, why Christians

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who talk about Jesus, the prince of peace,

00:39:33 --> 00:39:35

blessed are the peacemakers,

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love, love, love, love, why would they be

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supporting and sending their money? So, Eddie, look.

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This is what happened. I'll give you guys

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a really condensed version. You can watch this

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on a program. He said that, Eddie, it

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starts with a man. 1800 years of Christianity.

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There was none of this rapture and Mhmm.

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This these fake prophecies that are now linked

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to Israel

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and these two comings of Jesus. So they

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had a man by the name of Cyrus

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Scofield.

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This is the Cyrus Scofield Bibles. Have you

00:40:02 --> 00:40:03

guys heard of this?

00:40:04 --> 00:40:06

He had got he had got many of

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these teachings of the rapture and these stuff

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that this is why the Christians support this,

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and they feel this is a part of

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their their faith. And John Nelson Darby has

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started to take fringe teachings as it and

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I, as the pastor was telling me from

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Christianity.

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So then a man who had went to

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prison, he was a con artist, Cyrus Scofield.

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He got out of jail. He all conveniently

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got his DD,

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and he started what's called the Scofield Bible.

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He ends up getting funded

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by the American

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Oxford Press. They push out 1,000,000 copies free.

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This is

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free. So you say, what does the Skyra

00:40:42 --> 00:40:44

Scofield Bible have to do with what's going

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on? In this Cyrus Scofield Bible, you have

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it's the exegesis of verses. Wow. So, this

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is like one verse that's bread and butter.

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It says, whoever blesses thee is blessed. Whoever

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curses thee is cursed. So they're connect this

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in the footnotes

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to the modern state of Israel.

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So now

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Christians have been hoodwinked

00:41:03 --> 00:41:05

many series. The late great planet Earth produced

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40,000,000

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copies and whatnot. So they've been tricked to

00:41:09 --> 00:41:11

believe that this is part of their religion,

00:41:11 --> 00:41:12

their Akita, to support

00:41:13 --> 00:41:15

something like this when it has nothing to

00:41:15 --> 00:41:17

do with Christianity. You're killing your own pal

00:41:17 --> 00:41:20

your own Palestinian Christians who've been there for

00:41:20 --> 00:41:21

how long,

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and now you're sending your money. What is

00:41:23 --> 00:41:24

it? Like, 3, 4,000,000,000

00:41:25 --> 00:41:26

a year

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instead of putting the money here. Look how

00:41:28 --> 00:41:30

many problems we have at home. You're going

00:41:30 --> 00:41:32

there to support a genocide. So these are

00:41:32 --> 00:41:34

just un unbelievable things, but this is a

00:41:34 --> 00:41:36

lot of part of the programming that's happening.

00:41:36 --> 00:41:38

Wow. We have to educate people.

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For shedding light on that. It's,

00:41:41 --> 00:41:43

a lot of a lot of these misconceptions

00:41:44 --> 00:41:45

need to be cleared.

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Brother Wajud, any I know. Beautiful beautiful educational

00:41:49 --> 00:41:50

piece there that I think would be really

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beneficial for our audience, Inshallah. Absolutely. And and,

00:41:53 --> 00:41:55

and do not give up hope. Keep making

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dua this Ramadan. Keep showing up with whatever

00:41:57 --> 00:41:58

you can, Inshallah.

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Yes.

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Brother Eddie for

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on sharing

00:42:04 --> 00:42:05

your inspirational story

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and and

00:42:07 --> 00:42:10

just sharing everything that you're doing. It really

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guides us and inspires us. So may Allah

00:42:12 --> 00:42:14

put more barakat in all that you're doing.

00:42:15 --> 00:42:17

Thank you so much. It does. It's it's

00:42:17 --> 00:42:19

all heart. It's all heart. I I just

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I just could feel the heart the entire

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time.

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Alright. We'll see you in person in the

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Dawa Center.

00:42:26 --> 00:42:27

Alright.

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