Channel: Bilal Philips
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hamdu Lillahi Rabbil alameen wa Salatu was Salam ala rasulillah Karim. While he was hardy woman is standing vicinity he niomi Deen all praises due to a law and realize Peace and blessings beyond the last prophet muhammad sallallahu alayhi wa sallam
and and all those who studied and all those who follow the path of righteousness until the last day.
The challenges facing Muslim youth
face the oma as a whole,
we tend to focus on Muslim youth,
because they represent the future.
However, for us to be able to meet
the challenges which face them, we have to deal with the challenges which face the Muslim community as a whole,
the Muslim community in the 21st century.
It is a community where first and foremost,
the challenge of culture and art authentic Islam
as a struggle for which Muslims are currently engaged.
Those who have studied in
enlightened universities, and have come back to Muslim communities around the world
come back with
knowledge, which wasn't available to those communities in the past.
they were faced
with resistance from the existing practice of Islam in the various areas of the Muslim world.
So a struggle began
that knowledge which was brought back
has gained certain inroads,
more and more people are being enlightened to it.
However, on the whole, the challenge remains
the challenge between culture
and authentic Islam.
And that's not to say
that authentic Islam does not have a culture.
However, its culture is based on the authentic teachings and practices which Prophet Muhammad Sallallahu Sallam brought
and taught and his companions carried to the generations after him.
authentic Islamic culture
can be summed up
in the verse.
Allah Yama, XML to lacantina Chrome.
Today, I have completed for you your religion.
When that verse was revealed,
whatever was religion
will always be the religion
and whatever was not a part of the religion
can never be a part of the religion.
Mr. Malik expressed that
saying that whatever was not a part of the religion when that verse was revealed can never be a part of the religion because
if we are to bring
hundreds of years later, 1000 years later, something to the religion
which was not a part of the religion.
Then it means that verse was not correct.
The religion was not complete.
We needed time to come, when others would add to the religion, what was missing.
And of course, that thought is heresy.
To say that the religion was not complete when Allah said the religion was complete is heresy. It is openly going against the statements of a loss of honor with Allah Himself.
However, when those who return,
spread this knowledge of the authentic religion,
which was there with the Prophet sallahu wa salam in his Sahaba
they are faced with rejection,
rejection from those who are following traditions that have been practiced for centuries.
And so we find ourselves in a situation where,
as a law said in Surah,
verse 104, will either appeal in the home to Allah Allah and Allah Allahu Allah Rasool Allah who has been ama Jelena La Jolla, Anna.
And if you
Muhammad's or Sallam
call them to what Allah and His Messenger
what was revealed, by a law
to His Messenger.
If you call them to it, they will say, what we found our four parents doing what sufficient for us? That was enough.
So when something is made clear,
that this was what Prophet Mohammed Salah Salam did. The response is, are you saying
my parents were wrong? My grandparents were wrong.
The same response, which Prophet Muhammad SAW Salah met, when he brought the message of Islam,
those who were living a culture
which had roots in Revelation, Prophet smila had
lived there die, they're profitable, Abraham had come there, built the Kaaba.
But in time, that message became distorted.
And the new norm
So this is the major channel challenge that
the youth face
because they are amongst the first to accept that clarification. The first to accept authentic Islam. Why? Because it makes sense.
If Prophet Mohammed wa sallam said to do it, then that's what we should be doing. We shouldn't be doing what our parents are for parents or relatives, our community
Because revelation didn't come to them. Islam didn't come to them.
to Prophet Mohammed Salah Salam. So if he told us that this is what we should be doing, then that's what we should be doing.
So we have to deal with
traditions, which have been brought here
by Muslims from India and Pakistan
And some might say, well, these traditions are minor issues.
here in South Africa, perhaps some of them are not as entrenched as they are back home in Pakistan.
India and Indonesia.
But the fact still remains
many of them have nothing to do with Islam at all.
And there is harm which comes from them
whether it is connected with the marriage traditions where people have to spend so much money to get married, having so many different gatherings and the costs that are involved, making marriage very difficult,
delay delaying marriages.
When the prophet SAW Selim had said yeah, Mashallah Shabaab man, I mean, come on.
all young people, those of you who are able to get married, get married, he encouraged early marriage, but because of traditions, and it's not just here, it's in many parts of the Muslim world today.
The marriage traditions become so elaborate, so expensive, that people are blocked from marrying at the time that they should.
Besides those inherited traditions, from Hindu backgrounds, which have found their way in the culture today,
other practices which came from Muslims imitating non Muslims adopted cultural practices,
like the molad, celebrating the birthday of the prophets, a lot of
this is going on all around the Muslim world.
In many Muslim countries, it's an official holiday.
But the bottom line is that when Prophet Mohammed Salah Salam came to Medina, and he found the people celebrating on different occasions, he asked them why they were doing it. And after they explained to him, he said, Listen, all of these celebrations
We only have two celebrations, annual celebrations in Islam.
It will fit
and it will add ha, that's it.
So, birthday celebrations, birthday of the Prophet celebrations salaam, salaam,
any of those types of celebrations which are taking place, especially with religious connotations, on a regular basis, these are outside of the teachings of Islam. And it is natural that the that young people as they come in to this knowledge, they would resist. And of course, they are faced with struggles with their parents, who have been doing this all their lives, they learned it from their parents and from their parents. So, I struggle exists.
We also have other innovations which have come in to our midst
innovations, which come under different names, different titles, were
groups movements, sex, in invite Muslims to worship other than Allah.
And, of course, this kind of change, this kind of innovation is very serious.
And it's natural, that young people when they come to realize and to understand
that worship belongs only to Allah.
With no exception.
Worship can only be directed to Allah subhanho wa Taala alone.
Then there are faced challenges with those who say, well, Prophet Mohammed Salah Salam is still alive.
You can pray to Him.
He will answer your prayers.
Or Shaykh Abdul Qadir
how's the awesome
special is not like other human beings. When he was born,
he was born in Ramadan.
he was born in the daylight hours
after his birth when his mother tried to suckle him. He refused
To drink milk.
And it wasn't until after sunset
that he began to drink milk.
So this was a special man
and because of his special nature,
he can answer your prayers. So you can pray to him.
You have others who say, well,
a been a beat on him.
And there is Fatima bint Mohammed salatu salam, and there's Hasson
urbinati. And Hussain, Ali, and descendants of Hussain who were all very special,
so special, that they also can answer our prayers.
And we should pray to them, call on them.
We're not worshiping them, we're only calling on them. We're only making dua to them.
But Prophet Muhammad SAW sentiment said at da who la vida
that call that da is worship.
So, all those who call
to the worship of human beings,
giving them attributes, sometimes which are among the attributes of Allah.
All of those who make that call have deviated from the Islam which Prophet Mohammed Salah Salam brought,
because were there people
who could receive prayers, Prophet Muhammad wa sallam would have told us about them.
If it was acceptable, that we could pray to Prophet Muhammad SAW son salatu salam, then
he would have sanctioned it in his lifetime, and his companions would have done it.
But that didn't take place.
So we know from that, that all of those who are engaged in this element of religious innovation, they have lost their way.
They have gone astray.
So this is a struggle now that young people are faced with
how to guide their parents. Young people ask me all the time, what should I say to my parents?
They don't want to listen to me.
And when I tried to correct them, we get into arguments.
I advise them well, better you find an elder,
an elder, who has understood
and let the elder speak to your parents. Because your parents still see you as a little child.
And naturally, they feel how can this little child Tell me what Islam is, I brought him or her into this world. And now they're going to tell me what Islam is very difficult. So better to get an elder to communicate with them and help them to understand the realities of faith.
the challenge is one of acquiring knowledge because for us to be able to meet
this cultural challenge to the Muslim community of the 21st century,
especially young people, for us to be able to meet that challenge. We need to have
reliable knowledge we need to have access to knowledge. And this is where it is very important that
we attach ourselves to scholars who are righteous
who are clear in their understanding of the deen and to learn from them
If it's possible to go overseas and gain knowledge,
to access that knowledge, through whatever means may be accessible and available to us.
My University, the Islamic online university, it provides this opportunity
where in the comfort of your own home, you can study
from reliable scholars.
You can even study
get a degree in education taught from an Islamic perspective.
So we have opportunities today to gain knowledge, which 20 years ago, 25 years ago weren't available.
There are other universities online.
Like knowledge International University from Riyadh.
They also offer a Sharia program online.
miscarriages University, from us from Egypt.
They also offer so we have opportunities that were not available before, and we have to take advantage of them. It is not enough for us to say, yeah, I'm watching you on YouTube. You know, when brother met me today and said, You know, I've been watching you on YouTube longer than I've even been married to my wife.
I know, smile brother
has been married for 13 years. Mashallah. But
the point is that watching YouTube might be useful. In fact, it is useful, you will get some knowledge. But what happens is that when you watch my lectures, or you watch other people's lectures, you know, you're getting knowledge bits and pieces from here, they're everywhere. So over those 13 years, assuming maybe 14 years that you've been watching me and others on YouTube, and you've listened to so many lectures, if I asked you now Okay, brother, please give us a lecture on
tauheed aqeedah 101 can you deliver that for us, please? Is No no, no, no. Sorry.
Yeah, I did take it I did watch that class but
can't put it cannot give it and the province or sentiment said what Hey, do calm Manta allemaal. Khurana. Why llama.
It's not just the map, the learning of the Quran.
It was the learning of the Koran, and conveying its meaning conveying it to others. This is where the greatness lay.
you're not to blame. information gained haphazardly from anywhere and everywhere, will not give you a solid foundation of knowledge which you can impart to others. So what to do,
get enrolled, start to study join classes which are available by the local scholars here the community, reliable scholars who are open minded to
changing the present in order to change our future.
we have this responsibility of seeking knowledge.
we need to reconnect the community with the Quran because if we are to
bring people back to authentic Islam, authentic Islam begins with the Quran.
So we need to reconnect because the community has become disconnected from the Quran.
One may say But yeah, but we are producing so many her father, people who memorize the whole Quran every year we produce, you know, 5100 or five.
But the question is,
what did the prophet SAW Selim, actually tell us how to come Manta Allah
For Ana llama, the best of you are those who learn the Quran and teach it to others. memorization is a means of helping one learn. But it is not a goal in and of itself.
It has become a goal in the Muslim community today
in the subcontinent the common story which circulates is that
the half inch
can carry with him seven family members to paradise.
How many of you heard that before? Put your hand up?
Yeah, yeah. confirmed the half with can carry seven family members to paradise with him.
So what does that mean? The family
designates one of the children. You are meant
you memorize the Quran.
We will take care of you.
We will carry on our business live our lives.
Anyhow, in rebar here, they're everywhere. But you just make sure you memorize that Quran.
Because in sha Allah, you're our ticket to paradise.
What is that saying about the law? subhana wa Tada.
If we just stop and think for a minute, what is that saying?
That's like the Pope.
In the Middle Ages, the Pope's used to write a certificate. They were called papal indulgences. Why what did the certificate say? The certificate said the bearer of this certificate has a place in paradise.
The seal stamp signature of the Pope
the rich in Europe used to buy them they paid big money to the pope to get that papal indulgence.
A ticket to paradise.
We look at it and laugh but we are doing the same thing. We are attributing to Rasulullah sallallahu wasallam.
That he said
the half is will carry seven family members and some narrations seven generations of family members to paradise.
But let me inform you today.
If you didn't know before, that none of those narrations are authentic. They are fabricated narrations.
the half is will not carry you
and the family members you have to do for yourself.
Nobody can carry your sins will I will is 00 to one with zero okra.
No carrier of burdens can carry the burden of any other.
we have to give a law, his due praise
not reduce the religion
to simple tricks like these.
What is required is that we learn the Quran
of our children, those who would memorize which should memorize and understand.
the 60 or 80,000 of them. When Prophet Mohammed Sol salatu salam died.
Less than 10 of them had memorized the whole Quran
many of them memorize different portions of the Quran, but less than 10 of them
memorize the whole core and
had the memorization of the whole core and been a goal in and of itself, then surely, the Sahaba would not have
failed to do so. Of course, after the death of the prophet SAW solemn,
and the compilation of the first must have, many of the Sahaba did learn. But the bottom line is that their approach to the Koran was that of learning and understanding the clan as Abdullayev in mustard and others said, we used to learn the Quran 10 verses at a time. And we didn't go on to another 10 until we had understood what was in the first 10. And we had tried to implement it.
We learn the knowledge and the application of that knowledge at the same time.
And they said also, the one who memorize all of Surah Al Baqarah
or Al Baqarah,
was called half in amongst us.
That's the one who was known as the half with the one who had memorized Surah Al Baqarah.
Saul Baqarah, about which Prophet Muhammad wa sallam had said you recite Surah Al Baqarah in your home, it will drive away shape on for three days and nights. Is there any other surah in the Quran that you heard that? No.
That is Surah Al Baqarah.
If you read it,
under understanding it,
it has that power behind it.
the most popular surah for all of us is what ya see.
Huh? yacine is the store that we all treasure.
We write in gold letters and place it on our walls, beautiful calligraphy nice frames. You put your scene on your wall and your home is now an Islamic home.
The well known statement
attributed to Rasulullah sallallahu wasallam.
Everything has a heart
and the heart of the Quran is yacine.
That is also a fabrication.
It's a fabrication. It's not authentic. Read the scene for your dying ones.
fabrication. In fact, there are no authentic ideas about the merits of the scene.
That's where culture has come and taken over the dean.
So we are caught up in these practices, these beliefs these traditions, which really don't have a foundation in the actual teachings of Islam.
So we are sidetracked
how many people have Surya seen
an object hanging in our cars from the rear view mirror? How many people have it?
Be honest now.
How many of you have it go ahead, be honest.
People are shy to put their heads up.
It's not available.
Okay, inshallah. That's a good sign if that was real, but I'm, I feel I've been in some cars already and seen this. But anyway, I won't point any fingers. The point is, that
all of such practices
are part of the cultural distortion of the Islamic teachings and practices where they have been turned into pure rituals
and the understanding of the Quran is
Lost, the understanding of the Sunnah is lost, and we have been caught up now only in the ritual.
this is the challenge that faces the community today
to bring the community back to the Quran
to make the Quran the source of guidance
in our lives individually family lives
the understanding of the Quran
about which Allah said
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we utilize it
seeking guidance from it.
And I don't mean to say anything negative.
But after the beautiful recitation of our brother, when I came in, I thought it was a recording right? He has imitated the reciter very nicely, Mashallah. However, how many of you here understood what was recited of the Quran? Put your hand up, please.
So what is that saying? What happened to the rest of us? The rest of us? were enjoying his recitation.
We enjoyed it. It was pleasing. Pleasant, it was nice.
So what had it become? It had become like music.
So it became musical. We enjoy the music of the Quran and it's true prophets. I saw them I said, Man, lamea Tawana been Quran felice, Amina, whoever does not sing the Koran is not about so it should be recited in a beautiful voice. So Mashallah our brother did that. But
who doesn't live
let us not forget that.
So whenever we have an event, and the Quran is recited in Arabic
and know that it's not actually from the Sunnah to do so, but if you choose to do so, it is not a sin.
Recite, read also the translation. So we can reflect on what Allah was saying.
And this will also tell us whether the verses we are reciting has any relevance to what we are doing here.
Because the Quran
to the needs that we have to our communities to our families, it it has relevance and we should always keep that relevance in place, the connection should be there
understanding the ground
so this is among the big challenges facing us
to bring the Quran back into the proper place that it should be in our lives.
Not just a book, which we take out in Ramadan
and we blow the dust off from last Ramadan.
We read it from cover to cover fattier had to NASS. Then we
need we put it back on the shelf to gather more dust until the next Ramadan.
This is not the way
let us be about that change. This Ramadan which is a few months away, let us
read in Ramadan Surah Al Baqarah
like the Sahaba did with understanding.
read the verses, read the tafsir tough series available to us read it. Get that understanding. If you only get through through Al Baqarah. You didn't make it to the end of the crime believe me that is way better than reading from Fatiha to NASS, and not
Understanding what you read.
That is certain.
The other challenge that we are faced in the 21st century
is the challenge of liberalism,
liberally liberalism, liberal Islam, which is being promoted very strongly from the west.
On one hand, we said we had this conservative
resistance. On the other hand, for young people coming through the system here, going into the universities being exposed to Western thought, Western secular
They're becoming affected.
In a lecture, which I gave at university in Johannesburg,
one student was there,
Palestinian headdress route over his shoulders, signifying that he supports the Palestinian cause. But he was jumping up and down and attacking me. Because I believe that homosexuals who are caught
in the act in a Muslim state
should be executed.
As the Sharia said, and my lecture wasn't about that at all. In fact, I never even talked about it. But he was
a supporter of the LGBT alphabetical whatever's, you know,
that have put me as
public enemy number one
with regards to homosexuality, so he was going to disrupt the proceedings, when we went into the q&a section over this, now this guy who was jumping up and down like this,
his father and his grandfather,
for father of the Quran,
but he had left Islam altogether when he was asked afterwards, are you a Muslim, said I, I used to be
I used to be.
And he is not the only one.
There are many others who are being whose faith is being undermined, challenge, disrupted or
current liberal Islamic movement,
we have to be clear
that there is no such thing as liberal Islam.
This whole liberal movement
is a movement in the West, our movement from the west, from the 17th century, you had an English philosopher by the name of john Locke, he is the one who first proposed it.
freedom, that's where it comes from. It comes from Lieber, which means free,
it's about people being free to say whatever they want to say, do whatever they want to do.
As long as you don't harm anybody else.
As long as you're not harming anybody else, you should be free to say whatever you want to say, and do whatever you want to do.
we don't believe that.
You can say whatever you want to say as long as it is within what is acceptable and pleasing to Allah subhanaw taala.
You can do whatever you want to do as long as it is within the framework of the Sharia, as a Muslim. Of course, in this country, individuals are free to do whatever they want to do, period.
But to say I'm a Muslim, and I'm a liberal Muslim.
I heard you all,
a homosexual mosque established
in south of South Africa.
That is liberalism, that is the consequence, something abhorrent from an Islamic perspective.
So this is a current challenge, how do we meet this challenge? What we need to do is we need to provide our young people who are growing up in this environment with proper Islamic education.
Islamic education, I'm not saying just Islamic education, but Islamic education, which includes Islamic education. But whatever else we study, whether it's math or science, it's physics, it's biology,
geography, whatever it should be taught from an Islamic perspective, we need that we need to have that other perspective. Otherwise, if our children grow up being fed, the contents of these books
of those who deny allows existence
who believe in this liberal approach,
open liberal approach, then our young people will become corrupted.
They will end up in defense of the indefensible.
back in 2013,
they passed a bill
called Bill 13.
which gave permission
for the teaching of homosexuality
in the government kindergartens, this was now going to be taught and has been taught for the last four years in Canada.
It was already going on in America, it's going on in England.
And that's where the liberal
democratic approach is headed.
This is where it's headed. And I'm not against democracy, where it benefits the masses of the community, but where democracy reinforces corruption and destruction. And definitely, we all as Muslims should oppose it.
But oppose it of course, in proper in a proper manner, not engaging in any form of violence, etc, etc.
The bottom line is, this is where things are headed. It's there in America, they're in UK, they're in Canada, know that it's coming here. It's just a matter of time.
So, we have to as a community, in order to meet this challenge. And remember,
in his tour of Africa, before leaving the presidency, he went from leader to leader of the African countries, ending up in Addis Ababa with the African Union meeting, what was his message? Accept homosexuals. That was the key that was instead of coming with, you know, improving economy, fighting against corruption, you know,
the main message was you must accept homosexuality, it should not be a crime in your country.
this and the other connected
deviations and corruption will be coming at our communities in the near future. So
We have to prepare.
And the best way to prepare is to ensure that our educational institutions
provide the alternative.
If our children or young people are raised up in these institutions with correct teachings, Islamic teachings, inshallah, they will be able to meet the challenges of the future.
And they will be a part of the progress that we hope would take place here in South Africa.
Finally, I would just like to mention, among the challenges which we face
with regards to the role of Muslim organizations in
the future of this community,
the role that they need to play,
whether we're starting with the masjid,
which has become, in many cases, just a place where people pray and go,
we need to establish masjids, which are living centers, living in the sense that they function the way the masjids function in the time of the Prophet sallallahu sallam.
In his time, they were centers of learning.
It is time they were centers of learning.
They were places where charity was distributed.
There were shelter for the homeless, a hostel for Muslim travelers, nursing home,
there are even places where marriages took place, there was entertainment there, it was a living institution, not
a structure, which people came together on Fridays came together for EADS, etc, etc. It was a living institution.
And that is why,
way back in 1975, International Islamic conference for the mission of the mosque
held by the Muslim World League, they said
the mosque should be the center of Muslim social life.
It should be the heart of the community.
Not just a prayer hall, it should be a prayer hall.
But it should be for males and females.
So many masters here have no place for females.
That should have a library where people can get access to knowledge.
It should be a social multifunction in Hall also.
Koran teaching and Islamic Studies should be there but it should also have a play area where children can play.
It should have an emergency clinic, funeral facilities and accommodation for guests. These were their 10 recommendations back in 1975.
We have yet to see such masjids.
We need this as part of the challenge that we need to set up
or modify what we have to fulfill these types of goals to make the masjid again relevant.
Remembering that the masjid problems are celebrated said
that among the seven who would be shaded by a lost throne on the day when there will be no shade except for the shade of a throne would be the individual whose heart was attached to the masjid
The one whose heart was attached to the masjid so we need to revive our masjids our mosques and make them places where we want to be.
We want to spend a good portion of our time
So that they can be in the forefront of the revival of Islam
locally and globally.
And in closing, I would just like
to remind you,
for those of you who have heard me say it before,
especially for those who heard me say it, hear it again
Alhamdulillah in spite of all the negativity, that's there,
the struggles that we face, the opposition,
locally and globally, Islam is alive and well. It is.
It is on the rise. And the challenges we face.
The efforts to distort its picture its image in the world
is the natural consequence of that awakening that has taken place in the Muslim world
50 years ago.
You would not see what you're seeing today.
Sometimes because we're sitting in the middle of things, we can't see the progress. But reality is that things islamically and the Muslim communities globally, in spite of Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, things globally, are far better than they were 50 years ago. Baraka Luffy said on Monday Kumara Mata la he warahmatullahi wabarakatuh
we think Allah subhanaw taala for such profound advices that have been rendered to us by shake Bilal Philips
and we ask Allah subhanaw taala. To grant this understanding of whatever has been saved by chef, this is throughout his love and His experience that he has traveled to share with us the beauty of the Quran, and the way that we have the Quran, and we have to keep on learning, understanding and propagating the deen of Islam. without much further ado, I'd like to take this time to open the floor for questions. And I would like to suggest that the one who's going to be asking the question, it will be much more beneficial and removing confusion, if we stick to the topic at hand, let us make our questions relevant to what has been discussed. So that it will be of benefit to one at all.
If there are some other questions that a person might feel he needs to ask, then the shift is always free after the lecture and he can conduct with him and can clarify whatever needs to be clarified. So I think the mic for the question
is over that side.
And as for this side
as for the site
there is a mic Okay, the mic also be shifted to the side for questions and also those who feel they will do better in writing the question they can also write the question and they can please present them forward Jazakallah
Salam Alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh
could one of the sisters just take the mic please
alchemilla Ohio for your inspiring words.
There are three points that I want to make especially for us here in South Africa that I would like you to advise us inshallah. Three questions. Yes, one will be a comment.
The first one is that we are facing
a kind of
racism in South Africa as black people.
I'll prove my point.
There are madrasas and Islamic Islamic
that are catering for the Muslims in general.
But you will find that these schools are very, very expensive that the indigenous of South Africa cannot afford to pay. Some of them. They have cater for those people who cannot afford. But
you will find that when you go there, you must for you to be accepted. You must, you must either affiliate yourself to this to the so called groups that we find in Islam, that's number one you would be held. But unless you affiliate yourself to those groupings in Islam, that's the only time that you'll be you'll be accepted. Okay, but would I call that racism? I don't think that's racism, brother. Be careful.
Let me let me let me go on to your next point. That's my comment on your point. But go on to your next point in this in the madrasahs that we find.
In South Africa, you will find that even the children's in the in the madrasa a put according to where they are coming from the
children from Malawi, they will be in a certain apartment, children from Somalia will be in the same apartment, children from
Uganda and South Africans will be the one Okay, that's it. That's the question of organization. I still I wouldn't call that racism, brother. I'm just saying just be careful of the terminology that we use, because racism is a very strong term. Let's say, you know, anyway, these matters are matters that we can take up with the heads of organizations, if we have alternative suggestions to make, we suggest them.
If you have a question, it's better than making a comment better to give a question, I can deal with the question and then give other people a chance to ask questions also.
Okay, so my question question was, why can't we be treated equally? When you talk about Islamization that when we apply when we apply, there must be a standard that cater for all and when we send our children in different in different madrasa. They should be, they should be put together. That was my question.
That wasn't a question. That was a statement. You know, the fear. The point is,
if we want the ideal madrasa
then we need to make it
there's no point in saying they should. He should.
We need to do it ourselves.
We try to gather those people who are like minded,
who are open minded, who see the importance of integration.
Having students from all backgrounds study together,
and I agree with you 100% that's what it should be. That's how it is in the enlightened institutions.
what is going to change the situation is what we do about it. So we need to get together with people who are like minded and establish alternative institutions where that full integration takes place. People are not separated according to their language groups, although people do it. You know, we have an Ethiopian Masjid. I went and gave a talk at Ethiopian Masjid. I went and gave a talk. You know, the brothers from the Somali master. They wanted me to come and give a talk there too. There was a Somali mustard. The people of that area are mostly Somali. So they set up a Masjid and since most of the people there who are bringing in Somalis and the ones who set it up for somebody, it's
called a Somali Masjid.
But it's just a Masjid
in the end, it's just a
Masjid and we as Muslims should strive to
be culturally interactive, dealing with all of our various cultural groups in our we should be fully represented in all of our Islamic activities. And this is something I can say personally, I have expressed to
the brothers who have organized my coming here that they need to include, be more inclusive in their gatherings, their efforts, etc. And they're trying, they're trying, they're coming from a period the whole society is coming from a period of apartheid divisions and segregations and it is a learning and growing process. So let us inshallah work together and establish the kind of institutions which properly represent Islam in the 21st century. inshallah.
Are you all ready to support this project?
That sounds kind of weak. Are you already
know Just say yes.
Are you already
from the women's side? Are you already
after kind of weak? You know, we, we still have a lot of work to do. Sharla carry on. So question from the sister side, please.
Who has the microphone?
The microphone, is there somebody? Could you just pass it? Please?
Sister would like to ask a question. Just put up your hand. Take the mic.
Okay, you're afraid it's okay. Brothers, please carry on.
Okay, just one second. Sorry. Hold on one second. Go ahead, sister. I Salaam Alaikum alaikum. Salaam Rahmatullah. I just want to know what challenges does the youth face in Canada? What what challenges
does the youth face in Canada?
What challenges do youth face in Canada? Yeah, the Muslim youth, the Muslim youth, Muslim youth? Yes. they're faced with the same kinds of things that we've been talking about. This is not new. The community Muslim community there in Canada is mainly an immigrant community.
The original immigrants were Pakistanis, Indians, Bangladeshis, Egyptians, Palestinians, etc. Later waves came from Somalia, from Ethiopia. It's such a similar situation. But because of the way in which the schools operate there, the impact of Western secularism
I believe, has shown up far more strongly. Just before I went to Canada, I was just there a month ago.
And before I went there,
one sister had called up
She told me
she was from Pakistan. Originally. She told me herself and her husband were practicing Muslims.
Their son, accepted as memorize the whole Quran when he was 10 years old.
he memorized the whole Quran when he was 10 years old. So tahfiz is going on there in Canada. However, she said
he learned the Quran memorize the Quran attend and he used to pray full time five times daily prayer He fasted Ramadan, everything but at the age of 15.
A week ago, he came home and informed the family that he was not a Muslim.
He said I don't believe in Allah.
Because at age 15,
you can leave home.
Your parents cannot stop you. They don't have a right to keep you in their home if you want to leave.
15 years old. He came and informed them that he was not a Muslim.
Where did that come from?
That came from school. It wasn't from the home. They were practicing was
They were around other Muslims are going to the Islamic gatherings and all these other kinds of things. And this was not just one case. I came across many cases like that. Actually, I stayed back in Canada for a year in 2012.
And 2012, I was the mom of what was known as again, Somali mosque, though most of the people praying in there, were not Somalis. But those who founded it, were Somalis. In that Masjid, I was the mom there for almost a complete year. And people were bringing people from the community and there was mixed community, Pakistanis, Egyptians, Somalis eretrians, from all over the Muslim world. They were bringing their children in and asking me please speak to my child. My child is upset with me, because I won't accept homosexuality.
What's wrong with homosexuals, there are good people.
Parents bringing in their children questioning about the existence of a law of God, number of cases. So they're under major stress and pressure. They're in the community, but 100 law like yourselves, they're trying to make a difference, trying to change things. And they're faced with the struggle of the cultural baggage that has been handed down. And the struggle to find correct Islam and to set up institutions that will address their needs. People are happy to build mosques. But youth centers Islamic youth centers, we don't have Christians built the YMCA and YWCA is all over the world.
But we don't have
youth centres. Place where young people can get together in a wholesome atmosphere
and interact, share,
learn about Islam,
entertain, enjoy each other's company in a halal way. We need that these times especially we need it.
Can I mentioned one question please? No statements or long statements? Thank you.
slowly come. Thank you chef for being here quickly.
But they need to women in mosques in the time of prophets Lao Salaam, what was the position? Because we given examples of women walking and scraping against a wall so that they're not seen. And they they're supposed to be hidden away and not visible at all. I can't quite make out a saying the mask and the time of the Prophet sallallahu Sallam were women allowed in merchants and what role did they play? Because the teachings here in our environment is that women should be should rather not attend the masjid pray at home, not be seen anyway. One of the examples we given is that one of the great women of Islam used to walk against a wall to such an extent that she made marks on a wall so that
she was not seen.
Are you talking about women in the mosque? Yes. Well, we have the clear statement of the prophet SAW Selim, do not prevent your women from going to the mosques. So after that, Any other discussion becomes irrelevant? People might say well, okay, and the women in the prophets, I send them this time they didn't use to wear makeup and
the prophet SAW Selim gave a principle, do not prevent your women from going to the mosques.
Also hobby so and so did the prophet SAW Selim said, Do not prevent your women from going to the mosques. That's the end of the story. We need to stop there.
Do it in a good way in a decent way.
But that is the way to prevent
a woman from going to the mosques is in direct contradiction to the statements the instructions of Rasulullah sallallahu wasallam.
The system side
First of all, I would just like to make a comment on something I heard earlier on one of the brothers, right? He said that he spoke that he feels that South Africans are racist. And I would like to inform him that we are very active in our community. I am an example. We are volunteer and I teach Muslims of different races without pay in someone's house. I mean, there, there are many other people that are also taking that incentive. So though it's not visible, they can't see much, but it is taking place in the avenues like that. So the brother must find out ways on that, but definitely it is taking place. Right. But my question directly to
shed light is on. He made a comment previously on surah. Yasin right. And I disagree with what she has said on surah. Yaseen. Because in the key tabs, I read the benefits of surah Yaseen is shown, for example, protection against evil, or thieves, etc. and malanez, right, these key tabs and some of the key tabs that I read like key to the treasures of Janet, and to ask for the contentment of the heart. Please comment on this and clarify.
I'm very sorry, but I was just me, I couldn't hardly understand what our sister was saying. Can you keep it in a short in one sentence, or your translate for me? translate for you? So the lady says, firstly, she felt that
the critical gain so in terms of us against racism is unwarranted and unfounded?
Is it the sound system? Is that come closer? Sorry, I think it's a sound system problem. Okay.
There's a lot of virtue associated with it.
I'll deal with the second part, the issue of,
of the communities and presence of racism or not racism, we, I think what I said was sufficient concerning
the issue of sorry, our scene.
It doesn't matter who said, there are virtues in Surya scene.
If Prophet Muhammad sallahu wa salam did not say it, then what anybody's opinion may be is irrelevant.
Those are personal opinions. Our religion is not based on personal opinions. It's based on color law, or color. Rasulullah sallallahu wasallam. So, whatever you virtues you have seen, if you don't see after this virtue, which is mentioned
Rasulullah sallallahu Sallam said, in Sahih Bukhari or Sahih, Muslim or Abu Dhabi, sunon, Abu Dhabi, Buddha, whatever. If you don't see a reference that you can go back to, to confirm, then please know that you do not accept that our religion is based on what we have authentically from a last man to Allah in the Quran. And the statements of the prophet SAW Selim in the Sunnah, as the prophet SAW, Selim told us, I've left with you two things, two things.
If you hold on firmly to them, you will never go astray. The Book of Allah and my Sunnah, the Book of Allah and my Suna he didn't say and the malanez opinions that are gonna come after me. Okay, so this is not the basis of our Deen. We cannot make HD had
in matters of religious pronouncement, saying about the Quran, that it will if you read it 10 times
because you can find this
re read some chapters from the Koran or some words from the Quran.
If you weren't able to get pregnant, you can get pregnant.
We have this written in books, isn't it? You have books on the names of Allah. If you recite this name of a law 1000 times in the morning and you fast for two days before and so on, so your business will be successful. And they will give you a whole list of things that happens when you recite the names of Allah. Do they have the authority to say this? No. Only rissalah law Sunrider seldom has the authority to say that if you recite this Koran
pu Allahu Ahad throughout the class, you recite it it is equal to one third of the Quran.
He has the authority to say it as anybody else got the authority to say that if you recite Soria scene or soil cough
it is equivalent to half of the Quran.
No, nobody else has that authority, because this is based on revelation.
That's the point. The scholars deduce based on the evidence which comes to them from the Quran and the Sunnah.
What is authentic?
is the basis of our Deen what is not authentic? is not a basis for our Deen. Okay.
Are they consider obeying the misguided leader of poofer and accepting the principle of means a bye week misses the people in tandem with me from the religion of Allah as taught by the proper
makalu robina in
with a message and
load we omega which gives a number gradients and they mislead us on the path.
Can I just have the translator help me with that? Thank you. Okay.
so the uncle is saying, Can you come close here to please God? It's just the reverberation of the sound.
Okay, I'll just read out. I don't know if there is a further question. But our brother mentioned, verse 64, and 67. From
from the Quran.
In the 33rd chapter.
I'll just read the English. Verily Allah has cursed the unbelievers and has prepared for them a blazing fire to dwell there in no protector will they find nor helper, the day that their faces will be turned upside down in the fire. They will say woe to us would that we had obey the law and obeyed his messenger and they would say Our Lord, we obeyed our chiefs and our great ones, and they misled us from the right path. I think this is affirming what I just mentioned that what the people who have decided to follow other than Allah and His Messenger, they will be in a state of greater regret in the Hellfire for having been less misled by those who they blindly followed. Now we all have to
We all will have to follow someone. As Allah said, First Allah Allah decree in kuntum lotta Allah moon, ask those who know if you don't know none of us has knowledge of everything. So we must ask others and get knowledge from them. But the point is, we
When we ask others, we don't just hear whatever is said and we accept it blindly.
We must have evidence for what is being said, if we find we go to a scholar and every time he just wants to say, dude, don't do do don't do
go find a scholar who will say due because the law said, and the Messenger of Allah said, that's the scholar who is going to benefit you, the one who will give you the where that information has come from, to let to assure you that it is from Quran and from the sun now.
Okay, from women side, another question.
Is a sister
who has the microphone?
Oh, microphone is there?
Okay. Nobody's very from the brother side, please.
Okay, give a chance to some of the people in the back please, brother, because we've only been giving it to the people in the front, sorry.
So I can share our concerns regarding
share. The biggest problem we have in South Africa is a lot of times and our own olema have also picked it up with a lot of times people are quoting a Heidi, which are fabricated or very weak.
Can you hear me? difficulty? I don't know, why are you able to
get something wrong with my ears?
A lot of times,
sorry, we're faced with a lot of situations where our lemma or scholars or
who are not particular about the idea they quote, and fabricated, ahaadeeth, weak ahaadeeth are passed on as, and therefore creates confusion. So even when it comes to sariah seen, for example, you have said that it's not authentic? And they will argue with what the lay man that it is authentic. So how does the lay man in a situation especially in South Africa, then decipher what is and what isn't authentic? It's going to be a consistent battle.
Okay, the question How does the lay man or a woman
determine what is authentic and what is not authentic? If some scholars say such and such a thing is authentic, and some say it is not authentic,
what you can do is to ask those who say it is authentic.
To bring the evidence, can they please show you the evidence for its authenticity? And those who say it is not authentic? Can they show you the evidence for its lack of authenticity. Then, when you have that information in front of yourself, and you read from both sides,
the side you are convinced of you follow?
That's what Allah is going to ask you about. You found out you saw the two evidences and you felt this one was more authentic and you followed it. But if you look at the two and you say well,
I can't really say Is it this one or is it that one? Then you go to another person who is more knowledgeable than yourself and bring these two evidences to him? Can you clarify this for me, please? which one is right?
If he can't, then you try to find somebody else.
That is the
Question from the woman's side.
No, men side
further in the back further to the back?
shacks, please advise, is it better? Is it better for our youth to go in Jamaat to connect Muslims better Muslims, or to learn the team to invite non Muslims to Islam?
Okay, I'm assuming this is correct translation, that which one is better for Muslims to go in Jamaat meanings yamata to make Muslims or
to make Muslims better Muslims.
For it for the youth, for the youth, for the youth, to go and Jamaat
to make Muslims better Muslims
or for youth to go and learn the deen
to be able to invite non Muslims to Islam? Well,
these are two
issues which need to be done.
On one hand, we do need to encourage Muslims to be better Muslims. And on the other hand, we do need to learn more about the deen and also call non Muslims.
actually calling non Muslims to Islam is an obligation on all Muslims. Whether you have learned so much about the dean or not, because probably saw some of them said Bendigo Annie walau
even if all you have learned from me is a single verse of the Quran
conveyed to others. So that is an ongoing responsibility. So while you are
trying to encourage Muslims to become better Muslims, you should still be calling non Muslims to Islam.
If you need to gain knowledge, and you go to institutions, etc, because you want to play a more effective role, then you should go and do it. So these don't have to be mutually exclusive things. Either you do this or you do that. How about doing both?
I would say try and do both. Encourage Muslims to come to the deen to practice your family members, your relatives etc. You don't necessarily need to go anywhere. You don't necessarily go and sleep in a Masjid to do that. You are you every one of you have relatives, family members who are not practicing Islam properly. So calling
Muslims to practice proper practice, this we should all be doing. This is our responsibility to those, you know who are close to us. You know, the Lord told us we're under a Sheraton carabin we should call those who are close relatives etc. That's who we first have a responsibility to. But at the same time, we do have the responsibility to gain knowledge of the deen get involved in in organized and structured programs of learning. increase our knowledge. And in both circumstances we should be inviting non Muslims to Islam taking the message of Islam to them.
From the woman's side
no one. Okay.
The mic is up front.
returning the speaker Go ahead.
Yeah, you go ahead. You can say it from there, I'll just get the transmission in case. Sorry.
Basically, I would like to thank you share for the talk that you gave us.
Really much appreciated.
My question is, in regards to the Syria scene and this argument that has been happening are led to us like how does the person or how, which route Do you take in lending Islam? Because it gets a bit confusing like for a normal person, you know, as you consult from shares in terms of the religion and then they tell you that they give you like a fabricated hiring to see that suit is in can do this for you can do this for you. And then you take that and implement it in your life. So my question is like, what route should apply
antique in learning the correct Islam.
That's me. Okay, that was clear.
I don't know why are you speaking clear English or what we return the speaker that came through loud and clear within the Speaker of the vicar. Okay, they change the speaker okay. hamdulillah okay.
I thought it was me. Anyway, this the same question actually repeated about how can we learn? Correct Islam? If people are telling us different things, you know, somebody tells us one thing, and
we thought it was right, we implemented it in our lives, and then we came across somebody else who told us something else. And so we have to stop doing it. And then so on and so forth. How to just find the right person who will tell us everything. Well, this is part of the struggle. Allah said in the Quran, Allah, Allah cannon, in Santa Fe cupboard.
I created human beings in struggle.
The knowledge will not come on a silver spoon, you just have to,
you have to struggle for it.
We have to make effort. That's the bottom line. When you read the stories of the scholars of the past, how they travelled and, and sacrificed and what they did to gain that knowledge and hamdulillah today, we don't have to do that. It's at their fingertips, but we still have to make some effort. But know, if somebody who you trusted
Maulana share doctor
told you something, that this was good for you so and so on. So and you trusted that individual.
And you did what he told you and it was wrong. He carries the sin.
If he knew better, he carries the sin.
If he was ignorant,
he carries the sin. Because if he is playing the role of teacher and he has not gained proper knowledge, then he is deceiving. He is held responsible. So you just
try to learn under those who have some
credentials, which show that they have been
they have studied and the community and the people who have more knowledge than you tell you that this person is a good and reliable person. That's the best you can do. If you find out later that what they gave you was incorrect. Don't worry about it. You correct your information and you
It's not the problem.
That's part of life. If you read the story of the Imam Shafi
how he studied under so many different scholars how he changed his opinions. One time he wrote and held certain opinions. He wrote a book called alhaja.
And that was a summary of his conclusions after studying with a number of different scholars. Then he went to Egypt, and studied under more scholars in Egypt, and he realized that some of the positions he held in his previous book, were not correct. So he wrote another book called alone, and that is now the well known book of the what is called the Shafi madhhab. So if a great scholar like that can do that. Who are we?
Can't we do the same?
One sec, again, from the woman's side.
Give it to our brother here, this brother who had a question why I asked it pass back.
Somali alaikum Salaam very quickly share.
If you have some advice for the Muslim community when it comes to drug abuse, we are suffering with the problem of drugs in some of our communities. If you can just share with us from your experience how we can deal with this problem.
To be honest,
this is not my area of specialization.
And this has to do with the, the situation in the community here. What I can advise is that the head of our Department of Psychology, Dr. Ghulam Rasool, professor, Dr. lamba school, he specialized in addiction, addictive behavior and its treatment. He wrote his thesis in that. So, my advice to you, you really want to do something, invite him here for a week, and let him prepare workshops to help you in dealing with the problem. Because this involves amount of research, I cannot just go and make pronouncements. You know, when I don't know the background of what is going on in the community, how it's going on, where the where the problems lie, what leads to these matters. So he is a specialist
in addictive behavior and addiction therapy. So my advice is invite him because that's what you do. Do you need to do if you don't have the knowledge
as those who know if you don't know.
an IRA to nostril Kalinka, and other cataracts and Madhava omalu Madonna's Hannah
Amaterasu an official word
from a data center.
Well, I heard part of what you were saying about calm loot.
But another part of it I didn't catch what do I advise?
I understand, understand, but the laser philia dica suta.
Basically, indica, Asuka
that he lives in an area where the homosexuals are prevalent and, and active
seeking to corrupt the youth etc. What should he do?
My advice, you don't have authority to do anything beyond
advising the youth that they're trying to corrupt that what they're involved in is false. And for yourself personally, my advice would be to move if you can. If you and your family can move to another part of the town or the city or whatever, then that's it's time for Hydra. If your area is taken over by homosexuals, it's time for major This is like you know, profit loot leaving.
Can you take a written question? Yeah. Okay, so
you're in South Africa, a lot of them massage it, when they preach they do not go the Quran or the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam rather they got some pious persons from somewhere on the subcontinent. I find it uninspiring, am I wrong? If I do not listen to them,
if you listen to them, am I wrong? If I do not listen to them? Okay.
The question concerning
hearing advice or lectures or information or reading that information,
where particular individuals names are quoted as the source of this advice
Are you wrong in not listening to the advice since they are not bringing evidence along with it, but just these are merely statements attributed to these people? Well,
when we talk about advice individual
People can give advice from experience and wisdom,
So, if somebody advises you, for example,
in terms of looking after your children, educating your children, that it is good for you to start them to memorize the Quran when they're seven, instead of starting when they're three and a half.
Is there a Quran? Sunnah, which talks about this? No. So this is just advice here. They said, Well, you know, I have experienced it. I'm a Quran teacher. And I found that the children when they're seven there, it's easier for them to, to learn and to understand. This is advice. So
the as the prophet SAW Solomon said al hikmah, to dollar to movement, you know, wisdom, wise, advice is the Lost Treasure of the believer. So if you hear some wise advice, which makes sense to you, etc. There is no harm in following it. But when that advice now steps into the realm of halal and haram in the deen, this is when you now need to have evidence.
Okay, you need to have evidence for example, if somebody says it is haram for you to eat shrimp
because it is a scavenger
you shouldn't eat shrimp.
This is no halau and Haram.
Remember that the province wa sallam
told us what was halal and what was Haram. He gave us the guidelines for halal and haram. And he said that the animals of the sea are all halaal.
And he no matter to even the dead, the animals of the sea that die in the sea of fish you find floating on the water
in the sea, it is Helen, you can eat it, though on the land. You can't eat dead animals because the province or Sallam said it.
So, if somebody is talking about halal and haram, then they must have evidence is to back up what they're saying.
Question from sisters?
Can I take a written question and again, okay, we've got a written question.
Sure. My question is Jamal, why is it allowed in Islam, because a lot of our youth are doing it
is Jamaat tably allowed in Islam, because a lot of our youth are engaged in it. whether or not they're engaged or not allowed or not engaged is not the issue of whether it's allowed or not allowed. The issue goes to the organization as a whole and what it is teaching in general.
If it keeps young people off the streets, helps them to get back to their Dean's practice pray when they didn't used to pray five times a day etc, it helps them to do these basic things, then there is no harm. But if it is misguiding if the branch that is here or the group that is in your city, or are taking them into areas which go against the teachings of Islam, then you avoid it.
So organizations have good parts, bad parts, better parts, so you have to judge the situation that exists in your area.
Check we can keep it to the last question if that's okay.
Are you ready to take more questions or should we?
Well, it's up to you.
Okay, I think I think we'll do one written question and then we'll take maybe one or two oral questions and then we can shut it down today. Okay, okay. Check from the sisters again. First. Any question from sister side
No, go ahead. Okay, so do you support youth sports programs such as soccer, etc? Yes, if the boys that are playing soccer are wearing appropriate garments, they're not exposing their our, in the in the game. And also if those who are organizing it, or using it also to get Islamic information to them.
So it's not just the sport.
When they gather together, they are reminders given to them after the game is over. They're doing some activities to try Islamic related so we try to blend and have Islam a part of that process. Otherwise, sport is good prophet Mombasa Sallam used to wrestle used to raise
for the question, or for the sisters, we have a question.
Is it permissible? I mean, is it compulsory for women to a niqab? Is it compulsory for women to wear a niqab? Some scholars hold that it is and many scholars hold that it isn't.
My advice in these this type of matter is that you look at the evidence for those who say it is and look at the evidence for those who say it isn't.
And then you decide even those who say it isn't, they still say it's maybe preferable or it's commendable or whatever. So doing it definitely is permissible is no issue about it those people who say that it's not really from Islam, it's from Persian culture and these kind of things, this is totally incorrect. But for yourself, if it is in fact, obligatory, then and you
sought to understand and you found out it was then it becomes an obligation on you. If you are convinced from your research that it is, then it's an obligation on you. But if you are convinced that it isn't, then it's not an obligation on you and allow will not hold you accountable. So those sisters who have researched and concluded it is an obligation, you cannot and should not also browbeat or put down the sisters who chose not to, you know, we should have that balance and nor should the sisters who chose not to look at the sisters who are doing so as being holier than thou, you know, we are better Muslims than you are, you know, we should neither go this way or that way,
but be able to tolerate both opinions.
Final question. Final question.
except our efforts to get closer to Quran and understand it better? I mean, I mean, my question is that, especially in Indian subcontinent
and all over the world also but mainly the way we are taught by Islamic organizations are some Allah, my cramps with due respect to them, that we they, in fact,
promoting the idea of refraining we must refrain from understanding Quran by our own.
And that's one thing that Okay, let me answer that. Sorry. Let me answer that point where people
are promoting the idea. Yeah, but I just want to say one more thing that Muslims should not seek to understand the Quran themselves know that this is misguidance Yeah, but my question is further to their sorry about it to interruption. On on top of that, they come out with a lot of books with fairy tales and fabricated books to confuse us. So my question is, it is innocent,
ritualistic innocent approach, or is probably an international conspiracy behind for Muslims to keep it keep away from the Quran and damage or do the harm.
International conspiracies. You know, I usually don't try to get into those areas. You know, there are so many stories about that circulate about the Illuminati and the this group and that group that is working behind the scenes.
So I won't go into that area, all I would say is that if there is misguidance know that shaitan is busy in it, how he is busy in it, who works for Him and who does not, etc. Allah knows best. But if it's not coming from Allah and His Messenger know that it's coming from shaytaan and his friends, his followers, so
that's enough To know such books or such teachings are to be avoided. You have the truth, share it with others, and inshallah Allah will reward you and his truth will prevail. barakallahu li combs Alaykum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh.
We think the SEC wants more time for his time and his knowledge that he is shared with us. And we now take this time to end our program. And we ask Allah subhanaw taala to make us understand whatever has been said, and to try our best in learning our Deen till we leave this world. Just two more announcement. I would kindly request the brothers and the sisters to kindly help in the picking of the chairs as you leave. Just hop in the picking of the chairs as you leave. And also outside. There is some coffee which is being served Jessica Lohan