Ali Ataie – Abrogation (Naskh) in the Qur’anic Text (Part 5) Qur’anic Sciences Series
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Today we're talking about NES, NES
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Naskh which means tragedy usually application
cancellation. So this is one of the most difficult, complex,
lengthy controversial topics in Islamic legal theory
and quite often misunderstood.
And like a Scrabble resort, it is not an exact science. So scholars
are very opinionated on this issue. There's a lot of difference
of opinion. Overall, there is consensus that there's definitely
less in the poor, there is a level of abrogation, the real difference
of opinion regarding it is the scope or extent of necessity.
So we'll talk about that and shoulder. So nuts deals generally
reporting Limited Company. Generally, this only applies to I
at that our work. I'm at Morgan Kemet, remember last time we
talked about the Quran itself divides its I added to two groups
with the shabby hat that are multi dimensional, that are obscure,
unclear or anthropomorphic. And then there are commands which are
clear or one dimensional for ayat that have legal and ethical
implications. So when we talk about pneus, we're talking about
if I have that have legal or or ethical implication, essentially I
at ensiling, other I add in the legal aspect, or outward aspect,
or exoteric aspect. So the technical definition that's given
by the aroma of the Quran is referred to missionary be the lead
and shutter shattering
or through a machete in the needle shattering
to remove or lift away a legal ruling by means of illegal proof.
So why only the ASPCA
so why don't verses in the Quran because remember, we divided the I
added the Quran to the division of the heart of the moment desiring
you have I have to deal with Rubia with nebo we with my eyes? These i
After never there's never monsoon they're never abrogated dealing
with Google via Why aren't I had to deal with Google via with
lordly qualities. Why aren't they ever abrogated? Because Allah
subhana wa Tada is immutable, Allah doesn't change. Only our
understandings of Allah subhanho wa taala. Only our understandings
change and are sharpened and are refined. That's what theology
means. Theology is to speak about Allah subhanho wa taala. Right. So
people have different theological
characteristics are different theological understandings, or
descriptions will also come with time.
So we'll come back to this idea in a minute. But nuts involved in the
dial in the dial button dial, which is substitution or
replacement.
So I asked that were forgotten by the prophets of Allah. The Quran
seems to indicate this is a reality. I had forgotten that
replaced with similar I had
or as a reference to the Ashraf we talked about the seven letters of
the Quran that I have revealed in various ways to facilitate
comprehension amongst the Arabs.
So as we said, in the house, they say Maliki Ahmed de Allah is the
Owner, the wash, many pee on the deed, the kings are different
words. Both of them have talks on transmission, both remotely
attested
that go all the way back to the prophets of Allah Barney it was.
This is not given.
You also have something called a good call from Barton in the call,
nullification or cancellation.
This is the cancellation of AI apps that have legal or ethical
import.
The wisdom behind this according to the rule of law is to establish
a precedent of dynamic legalism.
That law changes as time goes on, depending on social location and
context,
the Koran
canceling any Afghan
or it's a reference to the Quran parents canceling many Afghan
found in previous revelations.
Right. So if you look at Jewish law, there's a lot more laws than
what we haven't studied a lot more. Many of them are
have, you know the best or the dark reveal? To silence around the
Quran seems to indicate that but some of them will reveal to
Linnaeus Right, yeah, but they've been cancelled
with the revelation of the Quran, because the Quran is doing
something to Jewish law. It is ameliorating the Jewish law. It's
called tacy. This is a function of pneus of abrogation. It's making
it easier for people. We'll talk about that as well.
Okay, the Quran is a universal
revelation. Right? So it can be difficult, it is something that
should be implemented by everyone on the earth.
So he said that I had that deal with Rubia cannot change because
ALLAH SubhanA, Allah does not change. A lot is immutable, but
only our understandings of God change. Jews and Muslims, for
example, worship the same God. Most people would say, most Jews
and Muslims will say that they both worship the god of people, he
might as
each claim to have a more refined theological understanding. But
it's the same guy.
Jews and Christians, for the most part, believe that they worship
the same God that Abraham, Christians will say they have a
more refined understanding. Not that God changed and became a
trinity. Christians maintain that God was always a trilogy. But this
wasn't revealed yet, until the time of the New Testament, or was
it revealed to the time of a science. And this is something
that Jews and Muslims disagree with?
Obviously, our understandings of God change, but something
something so drastic as a triangle deity, suddenly being revealed at
such a time is unacceptable.
But if you look at sacred law, you look at how volatile you should
know this term. The Jewish counterpart, the Hebrew
counterpart to shut it off is Holika.
Like we say people have hollowed out
but it's a case of like,
this is surely obvious, right? According to their charity out
you can drink wine
in moderation.
So this is a difference we have in the Quran, why is
is not permissible. So this is a function of dusk, that is inter
scriptural. So the Quran abrogating
certain that will reveal to previous prophets.
Why is that because I'll also kind of want to add a new look kind of
alcohol would be drunk towards the end of time. Back in the day, the
pre modern world, someone my size of retirement accounts. If I
wanted to get drunk and have to drink about a gallon of wine, it's
very difficult to get drunk. But now I go to the liquor store. And
I buy you know, 120 Proof, whatever, tequila, two shots and
I'm on the floor. I've never done it.
It could happen. Right? So this is what survive the profit. Some of
you it's an uphill battle to marry some alcohol is the summation of
all sin. Right? And alcohol kills more people than cigarettes.
Definitely. But no alcohol, beer wine, such a big business in
America, that you'll never see any, you know, public service
announcement about
criticizing Budweiser during the Superbowl, quite the opposite.
Right.
Anyway, or like seafood in Jewish law, there's very strict,
meticulous rules about what Jews can eat, that's from the ocean.
They can only fish to have fins and scales. A fish has to have
fins and scale them up. Whereas in Islamic law, it's much easier
depending on which med hat but generally it's easier and there's
other you know, the beard is something that is thought of it
for work with our students.
Even trimming that err on the side is impermissible we have to grow
the laws
so Islamic law has
easier aspect of it
okay, so you know, Western
Islamist as they oftentimes criticize us. It's a this is just
a kind of a clever way that Muslim scholars feel
sort of cover up the fact that the Quran apparently contradicts
itself. So all this is has been abrogated by this.
Right? And they say, well, can God really change his mind?
A lot of Muslims actually murdered Muslims. And I was talking about
this during lecture Masjid a couple of years ago. I think it
was a theology class. And I mentioned this brother jumped all
over me and said, Are you saying that, you know, there's
contradictions in the Quran? Or does Allah change his mind and
things like that. So you have to understand the nature of 10 Zero
10. Zero needs a piecemeal revelation
10 Tenzin piecemeal, progressive revelation,
the Quran was revealed
over 23 years,
the community of the prophets have a lot of setup. It's changing and
growing and evolving. So the very ethos of the sacred law is a
dynamic reality is being shaped around the initial community.
The law as a dynamic reality, this is very, very important. There are
certain things in law in Shediac, that never change. These are
called thought that thought that they never changed. The other
things a lot, many things evolve, that are ones that I got out
variables
and changed according to social location.
So, you know, shifty eyes and some prepackaged 1400 year old law,
here it is, take it or leave it.
If you just look at the chef at school, for example. It's called
the chef at school. It's after its founder, chef in
the 1000s of scholars have contributed to the school, even
today. So if you go into a chef, a book of Shediac, because from 500
years ago, when he tried to look up, what's the fit of the crane on
an airplane?
You're obviously not going to find
his five year old book.
Nowadays be good to go to a chef, a scholar? You asked him, Do I
have to pray on an airplane?
It'll give you an answer. See what a minute look, Chef, and he talked
about airplanes. Know, the nature of the schools is that they're
dynamic, right? They're living there. There's a variable aspect
to these schools, because that's the nature of sacred law. Right?
So there's always a human element, there's an element of HDR
the principles that were laid down, all of a sudden, all of
these fatawa are taken are based on principle juristic principles.
So they're not out of nowhere to come from something, you can
always be tied eventually back to an IRA or to Hadith of the
prophets of Allah.
Okay, that's the nature of sacred law. So abrogation allows people
to adjust to new prescriptions and prescriptions, like growing in
their faith. Remember a mother Ayesha? She said that if adultery
and why are prohibited early in Mecca, very very few people would
become Muslim.
Now, the Quran itself refers to its abrogated aspect.
So this idea of abrogation is not purely a scholastic
idea that doesn't have basis in the Koran.
Pi a number 106 among Bacara is the fundamental ayah that
establishes us.
Allah subhanaw taala says, My men suffering if and only see how DB
failed and min up Oh, literally. And I'm to Allah and Allah, Allah
punishing.
But then, last, right, that none of our verses, do we cancel or
cause to be forgotten, except that we bring in its place something
better, we're similar.
Don't you know that Allah has power over all things?
And then 16 101 Sort of I wonder what what either but then I
attended the Canada I am. Wala who I will be my unit zero
in the Enter booster, but accept
that when we replace one PIAA for another ion, and Allah knows best
what He is revealing. They say you're a forger, or you're just
making this up. This
is what people say today, while he's making this up as you're
going along an exome. But the majority of them they don't
understand the wisdom behind the progressive revelation.
The spirit has to be willing. This is the problem when you have an
Islamic revolution in a country where people are
dancing in clubs and
Drinking alcohol and other che are everywhere. You have to be patient
with people, then you start having things like prayer police walking
around, right?
So that the spirit has to be willing. It's a this is how the
Sahaba were trained. The Sahaba were trained gradually,
progressively.
There's wisdom, you should remember that. Oftentimes we are
brothers, I go overseas for, you know, two or three years. And they
come back with a lot of knowledge. But then they start reviving their
parents. Oh, my dad, you know, he missed the cylinder or doesn't
have a beard or something, you know? What a facet and he started
getting into debates with their parents.
We have to be patient with people we can reach out to especially
with parents.
years later that same young brothers it's back. My dad had so
much wisdom it shouldn't have disrespected him so much. He
didn't have a lot of religious knowledge but wisdom right as he
said, cannot be attained through study only through age
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Yamaha hola Omar, your shot you thought that when you fit a lot
cancels what he wants and establishes what he wants.
So I begin to now get put into the in a couple of
keywords that he had to attend to more beginner Rasulullah yet
through Superfund with a hora de haute couture will thank you but
the Quran is described as scrolls in the scrolls are different books
that are made Correct? Who would take him up? By saying Why does
Allah describe the Quran as to what books books need? Correct.
So they are gonna say here, that the meaning of this below is that
the Koran contains the essential teachings, the correct teachings
of the Torah and EG and there's
these books, the essence of these books, is captured in the Quran,
and that the shadow aspect of those books has been abrogated. So
there's no more fatwa based on what Deuteronomy says. You don't
appeal to Jewish law, the shadow aspect of Jewish law is abrogated.
This is called supersessionism.
Right, this idea, it's a Christian idea. The Old Testament covenant
is abrogated by the New Testament. This was standard Christianity.
But the covenant that God made with Bani Israel or not Sinai is
cancelled, because they failed to uphold it. It was a Tuesday was a
two way street. And because many the SWAT team failed to uphold the
covenant, that meet that ability to Hebrew, Allah subhanho wa Taala
extracted is grace from the
engagement to another nation. This is indicated also in the New
Testament esigning Salam, according to Matthew, He says the
Kingdom of God, which is an expression of meaning prophecy,
shall be taken away from you, and given to a nation that bears the
proper fruit.
So this was Denver Christianity. This is definitely what Paul
believes and writes in the New Testament.
But
the Catholic Church had
a council in the 60s called the Vatican two and can 60 to 65 or
there abouts. Where they made major statements. One of the
statements they made was that Christians or Catholics can now
have interfaith dialogue with Muslims. It was impermissible
before that time. I met a Catholic a few weeks ago.
Old lady, she told me I remember a time when it was impermissible for
me to walk into a mosque.
Before the 60s was impermissible, the Prophet sallallahu Sallam had
Christians come into his masjid. And they will not interfere in the
dial. Another thing that the church did during that council
Vatican two is that they apologized to the Jews for blaming
them for deicide or killing God.
And the Vatican was one of the first governments and it's a
government called the people state for the first states to endorse
Hitler's government.
They also
declared that the Jewish covenant is now valid.
Right, so this is called Dual Covenant Theology. So they sort of
revoked this idea that the Jewish covenant is meant to abrogate now
official Catholic doctrine
If you're a practicing Jew, even though you might hear about the
silence a lot, be presented with the gospel and you reject it.
You're not a Catholic. As long as you stay committed to Judaism,
you'll go to heaven. This is another Catholic position.
Okay, so.
So,
beliefs articles of faith, fundamental principles of law,
narrative, spiritual profit, illogical theological verities are
not subject thus, are not subject in us.
suit he also mentioned it was funny, there's a very good book on
the sizes of the Koran if you want something in addition to been done
by a South Asian scholar named Mufti Mohammed Smalley.
It's called an approach to the sciences of the Quran was
translated in English, very good text. I teach from it, that's a
tuna
where he actually goes into some examples from the Bible of NUS. So
this is not a Muslim concept.
So you have what's known as what he calls inter scriptural
abrogation, inter scriptural meaning one scripture abrogates
another, in other words, the New Testament abrogates, the Old
Testament, or the Koran abrogates, the Torah.
And then you have interest, scriptural interest within a into
interest, scriptural abrogation
is when the New Testament in many instances
abrogates itself.
And we find that, for example, in Matthew chapter 10, Jesus tells
the how water you enter you not into any Gentile land, with the
talents of Samaria, Enter ye not, but will rather than for the lost
sheep of the house of Israel. Matthew 15. Think not that I've
come to Matthew 15, he says
that I was only sent to the last week the House of Israel. So in
other words, he's only he's talking to how are you? Only to go
only to go to Jewish homes with the NG don't go to non Jews. When
in Matthew 28, he says go into all nations. Why is that? Because now
the teaching is complete. It's a progressive revelation.
Now they have the full gospel.
So it seems like a contradiction because a way to explain it to us.
The irony is oftentimes, Christians will point to things in
the Quran
and will explain it through the lens of dusk. And they'll say, Oh,
that's very convenient cover up. They have the same concept in
their text.
You have this an example of the New Testament abrogate the Old
Testament
in Jewish law.
And that in divorce is why for any reason, anytime you want. You
could just write a letter to repudiate his wife no problem and
bury somebody else.
He saw a salon parody says if you'd like to do that, you can
only do that if your wife is guilty of pornea which is the
Greek word
which is where we get the word * from a poor nega means
adultery. Only if she commits adultery, can you divorce your
wife? So in this sense, what he's doing is he's making it more
strict. This is going to lead
to steed.
So when it comes to industry, you have to see it in cash you need
to see it means to ameliorate something, make it easier,
make it easier. And this idea is in the Quran, there's actually a
statement attributed to the Saudis in the port.
Number 50 were in silence and unsettled were suddenly talking
about alien DNA in a coal rock. When he hit them up on Battlenet
you hurry Malika? I confirm the Torah. But I also make how some of
the things that were hot out
it's gonna taste you making things easier for people. Right? This is
a function of NUS
but also tissue EEG
intensification to make things more stringent
like what it says in Matthew about divorce
it's it's under the rubric of lesson. There's different types of
loss. One might even describe us as
a refinement of a previous Island and that seems to be how even
Tamia is using it. We'll talk about that.
All of these things so so even dad get a dad substitution replacement
is under the rubric of less than or equal pod. Total cancellation
is under the rubric of nursing. Tastes you amelioration, making
things easier. Tissue deed making things harder.
Okay.
So, a few terms here, the abrogating verse in Arabic is
called Nassif, Nassif, that's the verb. That's the verse that's
abrogating, the abrogated diverse a canceled verse with a refined
diversity will is called Min Soo. So these are active and passive
partisan fighting methods. NASA minzu.
The classic example.
Let's talk about
the classic example of this
is the graduate prohibition of alcohol.
So you have mdsap, I have 43.
And that's probably what that is. And this is a lengthy iron. Yeah,
you're gonna need a laptop
to sukar
chapter
or you believe.
Don't approach the prayer while you are intoxicated, until you can
understand what you're saying.
short time later, you have to 19 and Bacara revealed to the Prophet
salallahu Salam, which is now making a moral argument against
alcohol
that summer and Mesa. So alcohol and gambling, it says
industry but
the harm of them is more than their benefits.
This is no an argument we're on the road to NUS
and then not either either number 9590 a loss dataset about
alcohol and gambling fudge, Teddy boo boo, riches of the abolition,
fetch candy boo, they are an abomination of Satan's handiwork
shun them completely
so how do we go about this? What is it based on? It's based on
reliable reports
from the Prophet satellite Center and the companion
similar to how the zoo was was no, there's also an element of HDR
from the scholars.
It's good to be with the majority of the line but I do not have the
protection of guys but the majority of the talk about four
classes of abrogation
four classes, you have come on abrogated abrogating
like the wine example, the alcohol itself
upon abrogating
all classical scholars believe in intro, Quranic abrogation
the difference of opinion again is the extent or scope of the
abrogation in the park
there's always a difference of opinion about everything except
the three questions in your brain
that's why that's the wisdom of the three questions. There's only
one answer to each question.
Lender up who whose reward lender the Yukon who is your Prophet
Matthew What is your religion
so you're not gonna be asked Matt Matt happened man cheerful
man sorry. Tell you
these questions I
mean, they're there they facilitate our understanding of
are more in the profit in that religion. But there's more than
one answer to those questions. But these three there's one answer
knowing or not.
So
according to security, aggregation happens 19 times and that's it
19 times some REITs Realty differently take no means 21
But
according to the translation of the discount like 19 times
more modern scholar Shalini EULA Indian scholar like 1762.
He says it's only actually five times
and
we'll talk about why there's a difference of opinion here
in a minute, but basically, according to Ben, take me up the
center use the word NUS very broadly, to celebrate the early
Muslims
When they say this is monsoon
they really meant that this idea has been refined by a number not
absolutely nullified.
Right? That's how they're using it to have the later scholars, when
they say best, they tend to be absolute glorification.
Give me an example. In Me Imran one or two, Allah subhanaw taala
says, Yeah, you really need it, tap Allah Chattarpur potty or you
will believe to your Allah as he has the right to be feared.
So let's hop over were saying, Wow, can we fear Allah as it is
right? So the ayah was revealed
through the 64
verse number 16, for Topo la must attack, fear Allah as much as you
can.
So Is there really an abrogation happening here?
The goal is the same fear Allah as is the right of Allah. So kind of
what the goal remains.
But the method
is now revealed. So there's a refinement of how to get to the
goal. How do we how do we feel alone, in other words, as this is
right, by fearing as much as you can,
so the seller did not mean absolute vilification.
Or if you look at what you know soon he says it is
mentioned this last week also about the verse in the Quran and
up to 190.
Allah says Makati Luffy is a BB legale in your party look at what
I try to do in the wildlife people were attacking, fight those who
are finding you
but do not go to extremes a lot does not love extremists. chapter
two verse one nine you might see what he says this idea is
abrogated the first part of October, but I will label assuming
that you know a declaration of immunity by Allah and His
Messenger breaking all covenants with machine King attack the
machine again wherever you find them. Right. So what he means by
that, is that the first part of Toba abrogates that verse apart
off in its immediate context
right it's not indefinitely abrogated
fight those who are fighting you Okay, anarchy fighting with right
one.
There's nothing on the Earth.
Even if there's abrogation. There's a
lot of times there's a very cost very specific context to that
abrogation. That's not a blanket abrogation.
These things take a lot of HD.
They take knowledge of Hadith knowledge of Syrah
technology to see you
but it's not the simple you know, okay, whatever is in Medina
abrogates Mecca No,
that's how a lot of kuffaar present nuskin the Quran.
So one of the last
sutras to be revealed was October. So this Oh Toba, which describes
the rules of engagement, what to do with it. People commit Fianna
against the muscle polity. Oh, that's the sore muscles going back
in history doesn't bear that out. When Muslims were going into
different lands, they didn't you know, just slaughter everyone
wholesale. There's no evidence of that in North Africa. People
willingly became Muslim. You don't even admit this. There's a book
called answering Islam was the website was a book written in the
early 90s by Norman Geisler, a big, anti Muslim polemicist. And
his ghost writer up on Sunday, he says that he has a spread in Saudi
was a former Muslim, Abu Salim slave, the cross, but he probably
doesn't exist. Obviously, that's probably a figment of his
imagination. A lot of these Christian guys in order to sort of
bolster their work.
They sort of make up some this guy. So he knows what he's talking
about. Anyway, he says in that book, many, many Christians in
North Africa willingly accepted Islam because of Islam stress on
brotherhood and low taxes. That's what he says in that book.
Because there's no historical evidence of wholesale bloodshed of
invading Muslim armies.
You take the largest Muslim country, Indonesia
882 jar that also a traders, traders. So like Trader Joe's
tagit
merchants take merchants they weapon to Indonesia. And they just
showed good character.
And they have to literally was in Indonesia. A Muslim soldier never
stepped foot on the soil of Indonesia.
People can't explain that also in a debate one time in America with
a guy named Lakota. And he said his argument was people in
America, because I said 20,000 People in America become Muslim.
And it's not due to immigration. I'm talking about black Americans,
white Americans, Latino Americans. And he said, Well, that's because
it's almost spread by the sword.
Who has a gun to people's heads.
So walk around from behind the podium and walk so if you've seen
a weapon on me, and I turned around and said, I must have left
it outside next to my camel, that's double parked, right?
And it's just nonsensical. It deserves to be ridiculed, but they
say another argument is, men become Muslim in America because
they want to practice polygamy.
How many Muslims do you know? Erykah Badu Muslim men in America?
Do you know that more than one wife? I mean, certainly that's not
a major factor why people becoming Muslim don't want to admit people
become Muslim because they believe it's true.
Okay, so put on abrogating Quran is one class of application
but very limited.
Then you have Poron abrogating sadhana,
for example. And sunnah is not just happy, it's authenticated,
happy. The normative practice of the Prophet is sunnah. We believe
in the cylinder, right? There's some people who conflate the two
and so how do you you know, some of them are weak. Of course, some
of them are weak, some of them are are forged. He'd have a mobile app
with no Josie has a whole book on forged it. So, this
is somewhat of an informative
the agreed upon ethos, the agreed upon normative practice of the
Prophet Solomon. So this practice was to follow Adam kitap
Against The Machine, when there was no a command from Allah. So
you will face later notice for the Salah, right if you face
Jerusalem, and then the I was revealed in 144
to face mecca for one thing which I got shot to the Masjid Al haram,
turn your face towards the Inviolable box
for about abrogating sooner.
Then you have the controversial classification,
which not agreed upon sunder abrogating for
the Hannity's believe it's possible. The Maliki's believe
it's possible in the shower the Jaffa is if you will also believe
it's possible that sooner to fabricate the Koran
but only sooner that is considered to be to lotto multiple attested
and the proof texts of the enough is sort of legend while Maya or
any power the Prophet never speaks from tower
in whatever watching everything he says is why so if we know if it's
multiplayer tested that this is definitely what he said
in a hadith as well and if it's still something he said and it's
watching
so it's possible for a multiplayer testing Aggie to abrogate
something in the Quran. Of course the Hanafis Malik is
the chef Aries the knight this is sort of different buttons. Imam
Shafi position was the sun is never as strong as the point one
and he points to an eye and
so the unis either 50 with a machete can come to the offices
and they say this isn't good for arm but changing a little bit
is a major corner the angle but the law is not for me to change
anything.
So this is the proof text that no sunnah, no matter how strong
can abrogate the Koran.
And there is a difference of opinion as to what you want Shafi
is actually an actual opinion was that he just believe it's not
possible or did he believe that it never just occurred.
So that's a controversial one. So navigating,
and then you have Sundar abrogating sadhana which is
agreed upon. You might have 40 Hadith on one issued.
To give you a good example, that says do not go to graveyards.
Another heavy that says go to graveyards.
All right. So if one isn't initiated in the sciences of heavy
one to make grave errors in deriving rulings from Hadith. So
these sound six books to haughty Muslim, we have them in our homes
for Baraka, we can read them,
but don't extract legal rulings from them. That's for the Oregon
law. That's what they were written for. That was the intention of the
mobile Hardy was to write these things for hula know how to deal
with them.
So
how do we deal with the graveyards issue? Well, initially, the
profits of the bodies
DB impermissible for this hobby to go to graveyards, because many of
them would go there and worship their ancestors.
So they're coming out of jail. Right? So he's weaning them off of
that. So it's forbidden to not go. And then in the medieval period,
what they're established is to eat now it's permissible, go to the
graveyard. You know, pray for the dead recycler on Twitter, and then
leave document these excesses. Don't circumambulate them, don't
grab them and use them and rub them
these types of things don't pray no power towards them.
Please wean them off. This is the wisdom behind abrogation
another example of oh
yeah, that's good.
Okay, so he said according to the according to the definition of
mescaline, the definition of the Salah later scholars
that is absolute
absolute negation.
So ut says it happens 19 times in the fall.
In the Quran, we have this will talk me through the tilava. Thus,
I'll hook me to that in our we have an abrogation of the legal
ruling without its recited iron.
So in other words, the iron is still recited, but the legal
ruling has been fabricated.
For example, the verse about why 443
letter from Supra don't come to the prayer while you're
intoxicated.
Now that doesn't mean that the ayah has no meaning anymore.
Remember that he said what did Qurani volume
there's an exoteric meaning to the Koran can be so Tarik meaning.
Mo Jaffa sada who is a mom about a sunnah. He said every verse of the
Quran has four layers of meaning. He called them by the fall you
Keyshawn rocks Lokar F and haka
the expression
the illusions, illusions, the subtleties and the realities of
the earth. And I would argue here sukar Robinson toxicated. But
there's different meanings.
It could mean distracted.
We'll come to the prayer while distracted. So we've talked about
thus we're talking about the esoteric meaning has been lifted.
The very clear, apparent meaning, don't come to the prayer,
intoxicated on wine. That's clear. But there's other meanings that
are there that are isa Tarik in nature.
You know, in other words, serial, but don't be in toxic with dunya
with worry with despair.
Right. Get that out of your mind and then come to the grip.
So there is a meaning that still there's an esoteric meaning that's
good for all time.
Just to make that clear, as well.
So as we said, the court has a definition of necessity. If you
don't see it says it's gone. There's 19 Or so I have to report
on that or abrogate trouble you will not he said that happens only
five times. And none of the five times that show when you love
demonstrates has anything to do with
the latter class the debrief
or that I have to save activates
diversity so sword abrogates any of the so called peaceful verses
of the Quran.
Now, others disagree and say there's no application in the
forum.
Content there actually no sound reports on this issue at all. More
modern is a more modern opinion. Right. The trend nowadays is sort
of to downplay thus. So Ashima say back met
the founder of the nega University in India. He did not believe
there's obligation in the form
of an Abu Sheikh Mohammed la Egyptian reformists are called Neo
Baroque because he like proto Salafi whatever people refer to
them.
They did not affirm abrogation in the bottom number, position is
that there is no obligation. So what does it like? Island was the
Muslim and it's funny.
It's funny, you said that there's no there's no intro or UnYk
application. The Quran does not abrogate itself. There's only
inter scripture, abrogation, meaning the Quran abrogates the
act of the Torah add.
Some would say that these are not really applications, they're more
specifications.
One verse explains another in more detail or according to special
circumstances. So going back to the wine example 590 says wine is
forbidden.
Okay, for 43 sets, but you know, if you happen to get drunk, then
just don't come to the prayer and then muster
the two 119 to 290 says there's some benefit of alcohol, so you
can't use that as an excuse for moderate drinking. So really,
there's no abrogation here
or specifications.
Yeah, so you do have
the honorable mention. You have abrogation of the recited verse
with its legal ruling. But there's only one example they can think
of, apparently is a Muslim, I shall reveals, though, says there
was a verse that dealt with something like 10 Somethings that
make a marriage impermissible than it was then was reduced to five.
It's a very enigmatic statement she's making, but apparently there
wasn't I like that a double of 10 sucklings and validate a marriage
that's no longer recited in the forearm and the legal ruling is no
longer applied.
But some would say that this report is spurious.
Or it can refer to
something that is related to the action of the Quran, where you
have
synonyms in some Surah Sua
is that for example, that the most half of the witness rude, he says,
What's going on Japan? Castlefield lanforge. It's
so is a possum is wo two seven. So this could have been
a
In a form that was revealed to the province of Ohio,
in order to facilitate understanding of the certain Eric
tribe, that didn't use another, the other word.
But over time that that version of the eye if you will,
just fell out of use wasn't, wasn't recited anymore. So that
says it was forgotten.
Or the moment to say that that moon c hat is really referring to
the previous scriptures.
We don't have authentic Scriptures or the Torah. So I'll replace them
with the Koran. Something better or similar?
Was the majority of
the majority opinion is that the Sunnah is that there's definitely
an aggregated aspect in
the Quran
does abrogate sort of africat within itself.
And that's across the board from classical scholars, the modern
trend denies that and that's based on you know, that's based on
scholarship and that's something
to take seriously.
But the real difference of opinion amongst the setup was the extent
of application
how often this has happened in the
Yeah
besides the 632
combination beginning of sorrows, or any other priors, that the
meaning the general meaning is agreed upon.
No one can say complete certainty. Is there any other items? Yeah,
the if the two shall be hot.
So verses in the Quran that
that have theological implications?
Or is that seem to present?
Allah Subhan Allah to Allah as having the qualities of creation
using words that
may conjure up physical images
to let us know
that he is the word the harsh
what does that mean? Somebody asks people now think about that.
Right? Do we go into that? Begin with admitted so it's not one of
the things that is still up is do looses to sit with Arash, one of
the days of arches
footstool or bench or chair
so I met Kenny law Malik and he said What is it a star archery and
he was one of a photo anthropomorphised letter from
refers to someone who believes that God has body parts he's in
space and they don't matter.
So in America, he said it's still not at all the verb is the wise in
the Quran there's no doubt
that he said caveator Who very well
that how is it still out it's beyond your
comprehension
was so I'm going to ask him about it is innovation.
So nobody really knows what that means.
And the tendency of the Sabbath was to leave the meeting to God
it's called tough wield. Allah knows what it means whatever it
is, whatever it is becoming of His greatness and majesty
love where it lays it in this relation and they leave it
wouldn't call it
hello sometimes would comment on these things because you have
other muscle groups saying deviant things about these if
so the shabby had
the Quran says that however, the verses that are that are easily
understood there will teach there the essence of the book. So if you
even in translation, you'll get the essence of the Quranic of the
Quran teaching for the work
are there any is there any verses in the Quran right now that we
still don't know?
Of course Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean,
I mean that same
scene Yes. replies to that. I mean, they're they're tough SEO
for every item
with the with the i f that are too shabby, either obscure or
theological. multi-dimensional.
These are certainly
these are certainly open to further inquiry.
Are they big a number I guess is my question.
No,
And again, the
the essence of the text.
So those are easily understood, even with shabby hot
reader
that if you really good to see her on, it's pretty clear what
apparently, you're saying. But it is a universal scripture and it's
good for all time.
So that's the point of modern FCM is to make the point on relevant
for
different audiences.
You say he said there are nine innovations. Yeah. And
it didn't because they did the same thing differently. Your
interpretation different reading the same thing, right. So
they justify rationalize.
Yeah, it's all about how you define us.
So
this isn't really abrogation, it's not a total nullification.
It's a different way of explaining the previous AI the refinement of
the AI
so they didn't like the idea of a coffee with total cancellation of
the episode I will say that definitely does happen. Why was
permitted one point that was made
well, we'll come back next week in Charlotte. There's more questions
about this topic, and then we'll start to see