Ahmed Deedat – Vs Anis The Quran Or The Bible Which Is Gods Word

Ahmed Deedat
AI: Summary © The Bible is used as a reference to the holy book and is discussed in various religious and political theories. The title of the Bible is a combination of the Bible's teachings and its influence on people, including its use in various cultural and political settings and its supposedly impossible claims. The virtual dinner held by the speakers covers various topics, including the Bible's use in various cultural and religious settings and its supposedly impossible claims, the history and origin of the Bible's language and its supposedly impossible claims, and the credibility of the holy Bible and its supposedly impossible claims.
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Salam Alaikum

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Peace be with you. The Quran or the Bible, which is God's word. This is the topic for this afternoon's debate symposium, colloquium discussion, as you prefer to describe the speakers this afternoon. present with an interesting

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contrast in qualities and personality. To my right, is Dr. Elise Sharon. He has often been referred to as a Christian era.

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Dr. Xu Roche is an eminent theologian highly qualified, as indicated by the doctor which precedes his name. He is also highly qualified in the practical sense of the word as an evangelist. He is in fact, the head of an evangelistic Association. However, to ensure

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a fair focus on the credentials of each of the speakers we have agreed to that.

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A Dr. Basil Jackson will introduce Dr. Anita Sharon, in due course.

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Mr. Othman Dida has been referred to as a Muslim scholar of the Christian Bible. He has indicated to me that he does not want a lengthy introduction. But I'm nevertheless going to take the liberty as the chairman this afternoon to say a few words on him. They again in order to try and balance the focus that would be placed on each of the speakers.

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Dr. Mr. De Dodd, hails from a humble formal education background.

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He lays claim only to a standard six educational qualification in South Africa. In English terms, this would imply simply a few years of education at the lowest secondary level. However, ladies and gentlemen,

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this has not dampened his zest and zeal and enthusiasm to champion the Islamic cause. He has always been concerned with big things in law. If one looks at him. He is a man of big boats or statue. He's concerned himself in the initial stages of his life. As a salesman, he has sold furniture. He has driven trucks and in recent days, he has engaged in debates with highly qualified theologians, doctors and professors of theology. Ladies and gentlemen, I believe that amongst your number, some rather eminent people who have traveled from distant lands in order to hear the discussion, which will be presented by the speakers, you will be the jurors.

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My name is Mohammed Salim Khan. I'm a lawyer from South Africa and is it my pleasant task to be a chairman this afternoon. As Chairman I occupy a neutral position. It is my task to ensure the fair and proper conduct of this meeting. It is therefore necessary and essential that we all proceed with decorum that we all contribute to the success of this symposium. The procedure briefly will be the following. A coin will be tossed in due course, in order to decide as to which of the speakers will actually commence with their presentation, the first speaker will speak for a duration of 75 minutes, after which the other speaker his opponent will be entitled to a rebuttal of 15 minutes.

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Thereafter, the other speaker will make his presentation for a period of 75 minutes, followed by his opponents rebuttal for a period of 15 minutes, the you the members of the audience will be accorded an opportunity of directing questions at the speaker. The procedure which we intend to apply will be the following.

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You are to write your questions on pieces of paper as legibly as possible please, and to hand them to students who will actually be walking along the hours down the steps to my right and to my left, you will be able to identify them by the red badges which they will be wearing. These questions must indicate the name of the speaker who you wish to address answers to those questions. And I will in due course read these questions out to the speakers who will then

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present answers to them.

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Ladies and gentlemen, to proceed to the meat of the matter as it were. I am now going to request the speakers to come to the table in order to enable us to toss the coin and to the side as to who it is who will actually commence with the

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that needs sharrows Mr. Ahmed deedat Will you please come to the table

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I will of course, address you in due course as to the outcome of this.

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So I suppose you have to budget for

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it and you

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are going to toss it.

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It has been decided that Mr. Medina will address you first.

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Bismillah R Rahman r Rahim.

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Mr. Chairman,

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and my dear brothers and sisters,

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between myself, Dr. Sharon and God Almighty.

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I do not have to speak a single word.

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in the recitation that you heard from the Holy Quran,

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in the mother tongue of Dr. Suresh, God Almighty had delivered him and his mother, Mrs. Shiraz senior, the message,

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they understood the language.

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And as such, what is now required for the petitioners to do is to come forward is already attired in Arabic garb,

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give his hand

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he's already attired in Arabic garb, come forward, give his hand and read the Shahada.

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But for the benefit of my brothers and sisters, who might not have understood the message, the Quranic message, I repeatedly

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read says what in kuntum Fie Raven, me man, Allah, Allah Abdullah to distract me Miss Lee.

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Meaning that if you have any doubts with regards to the revelation given by God Almighty to His Prophet Muhammad,

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if you have any doubts, then produce a surah chapter like it

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was the OSHA document Gunilla in Keene and bring forth your witnesses and helpers. If there's anyone besides a law

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to testify

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says you will not be able to do it alone and you will never never be able to do that.

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This is a 1400 year old challenge

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that you will not be able to do it and you will never never be able to do it.

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For cocoon Allah de Vaca NASA Jarrah so prepare yourself for the fire, whose fuel is meaning stones.

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Now coming to the topic,

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the Quran or the Bible.

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This topic was instigated by an official Roche. He urged that we discuss the Quran or the Bible and I have acceded to his request.

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Now in any dispute

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the identification of the claimants or the disputants is imperative.

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It is a basic requirement

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that the witnesses identify themselves

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whether it is a trial, civil, criminal, or theological. The witnesses must identify themselves and in that the first witness according to the subject advertise is the cook

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subject is the Quran or the Bible, which is God's word, the Quran.

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Let us see what the Quran says about itself.

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You want to know the name,

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the name of the book? What is the name? Who is the author?

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Let the Quran speak for itself.

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In surah man,

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that is chapter 55

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verse number one in to Allah says,

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it is a rough man, the Merciful God, it is he who has taught the Quran, the name of the book, and the source of Revelation. God Almighty, the Quran speaks for itself. Some of you my brother and I can see that you are smoking please. This is a very serious topic. It is against the rules of this arena for people to smoke this, put down your cigarettes

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to help you my brothers and sisters, to find this reference in the Quran, it's difficult for the non Arab, most specially for us, Pakistanis Bangladeshis. For us it's difficult to find references such as Ramadan will be refined Rama in the Quran, which is an encyclopedia of 2000 pages. This particular one I have in my hand.

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With 114 chapters Sutras, we will find Rama if you have a translation like this.

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This is where Abdullah Yusuf Ali, it's available in the foyer outside

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a translation like this, you open the index and the back and are just like in a dictionary, look for a man it will tell you 55 and 55 is easy to find. Once you found 55 Allah number one and two was one in two easy to find.

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This book

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is so cheap. It's a very ill fitting word. As it's so cheap 2000 pages an encyclopedia of 2000 pages with Arabic text English translation and commentary. 2000 pages for five pounds. You people in Britain will appreciate this value I'm talking about when I had to buy the Holy Bible from a big booksellers here, Hudson's this Holy Bible cost me 995 nine pounds 95 pounds plus fact.

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You get two, you get two for the price of one, two, and they are available. I'm not sure to do business but by the way, they are available you owe it to yourself.

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There is no better wedding present you can give Christmas present you can give birthday present you can give to your employer or to your employee than the camera as well as you need it for yourself.

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And again, the Quran speaks about itself. In surah Joshua,

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Joshua is number one in two. It says Tenzin will kitabi Manila Caesar Hakeem that the revelation of the book is from Allah, the Exalted in my full of wisdom, Chapter 45. I am number one in

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the Quran identifies itself that I am the Quran and the author is God Almighty.

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God coming to the Bible,

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the Holy Bible, no doubt on the face of it, we have the world's Holy Bible,

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who put the word Holy Bible, the printers, beautiful calligraphic beauty

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in this vast volume, described by Dr. Sharon in a previous meeting,

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as a library of 66 books.

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He forgot that the Roman Catholics have 73 books.

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But between the 73 of the Roman Catholics and 66 of the Protestants, the word Bible is not in the Bible.

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It's an amazing situation. The witness hasn't got a name. He's anonymous. In the vast encyclopedia, the word Bible is not

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In the Bible, this is a concocted world

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conquered by learned men. They got this word Bible from the Greek word be blas de blas means a book from it. Now they got the word Bible Bible is a book. It is not a name.

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But today, we use it as a proper name, the Holy Bible, but the Bible is not in the Bible. And the Bible doesn't say that I am the book of God.

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We will prove to the contrary.

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But let us find let us see what the Christians themselves they say about our holy book.

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I have here

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the book

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is the Bible, the Word of God.

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Big question, man.

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This question is asked by Dr. Graham scroggie.

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And it is published by the Moody Bible Institute.

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They are not a moody people in America. But the name of the printers are Moody Bible Institute, they printed this book. The idea is to prove that the Bible is the Word of God.

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And in this book,

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before I can do that, I have given a reply to that book.

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In a booklet of mine is the Bible, God's word. And this booklet was supposed to have been given out to each and every one of you. In case you haven't got it, I take it on your way out, we'll be doing one. If you don't get it, get it from the Islamic Propagation center in Birmingham. It's absolutely free. This gives you an idea of what the Bible is, what the Torah is, what's the Sabbath is what the engine is. Generally, the Muslims don't know who we say, we believe in the Torah, we believe in the Sabu. We believe in the Injeel what these words signify, the Muslim does not really know. So if you want to know here is a book, they'll give you all that in detail.

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But coming to the Christians themselves, what they say about this holy book,

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Dr. grande scroggie,

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he quotes on page 22, and 23.

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A certain Dr. Joseph Parker,

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Joseph Parker, who says, This is to prove that the Bible is the Word of God. He says, what a book is the Bible. This is typical American.

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You know, the way that what a fantastic What a lovely bunch of people, you know, what a fantastic group of people. This is what a book is the Bible.

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In the matter of a variety of contents, your variety is the spice of life, things that are different, different different in the matter of variety of contents.

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whole pages are taken up with obscure names, names you never heard before in your life, and you're not likely to hear them in the future, obscure names, and more is told of a genealogy than of the Day of Judgment.

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Story is a halftone and the nightfalls before we can tell where victory lay

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is asking, Where Is there anything in the religious literature of men to correspond with this to compare with this? And we have to admit,

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but does that prove that it is the book of God? That is what we are going to analyze phrase by phrase, whatever the man says, let us analyze the serious implication of his utterances like this, his tantalizing is mesmerizing people with wounds, beautiful necklace of wounds, needs needs, meaning nothing. Listen.

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He says

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whole pages are taken up with obscure knee

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you don't know what he's talking about. So here is a page from the Bible. I'm going to read out these obscure names, names which I take it there's not a single one of you has ever heard in your life before and you're not likely to hear it again. Even if you live to 100 listen

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and I mean

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not to him, but through sim kazoo him. Now this is I'm not reading out of context here the I'm only reading a verse from one Chronicles chapter one was

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I want to know if there is a single one in this vast audience have heard these names before.

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Please put up your hand. A single one of you have heard this names ludum. And amin lahab him, not to him, but through SIM cards to him.

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Amazing, amazing. This is from the Holy Book. God Almighty took the trouble of having this dictated to you, and nobody heard it. You know, and I challenge I challenge you, my brothers and sisters, if you can produce anybody with his birth certificate at the IPC up to the end of the month with the name ludum. And I mean Ladin not to him. Patterson comes to him 100 pounds each. Anybody with these names from the Holy Bible? Anybody? you produce a birth certificate?

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Dr. Sharon,

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you heard these names before? Sir.

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Have you heard them before?

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You let

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you know who they are. You know who they are?

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The doctor says he knows who they are.

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Yes, sir. Accept. You see,

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if you give me your birth certificate.

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I have a Palestinian doctor. I was given a preview of this cop in the UAE.

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And the chairman of the meeting was Dr. Maja Shima.

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He was a Palestinian, Muslim, Muslim Palestine.

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And I'm asking the doctor, doctor, have you heard this news before?

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He said no.

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So as a shame on you.

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Shame on you. Not to Dr. Suresh. Mm. Dr. morbius. Una is he he is in Palestinian, Arab Muslim. So I said Shame on you.

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Shame on me. I said these aren't your forefathers. Because the Bible says that these are the forefathers of the Palestinians. And the Palestinian didn't know.

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You know, these beautiful names I read to you.

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Dr. Sharon,

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has published a book, Jesus prophecy. You remember the book on page 55. It says the Arabs in prophecy. This is a enlarge photostat from his book

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in which the start of the nations Dr. Shadows gives us the nations of the world where they originate. And he gives us more than 40 different names.

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The originators, the forefathers of the Germans, the western Europeans, the Indians, the Iranians, the Arabs, the Jews, the Egyptians, the Libyans, and the Europeans and on and on. He gives us more than 40 different names from the Holy Bible, but not one of them, of his ancestors is mentioned not one.

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Let us go back to our Dr. Joseph Parker.

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He says and no more is told of a genealogy than of the Day of Judgment.

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God Almighty should be interested in talking to us telling us about the deal. You have to face your law. One third of the Holy Quran one third. deals with the life hereafter heaven *. They have gentlemen one third. But our Dr. Joseph Parker is boasting that in the Bible more is told of a genealogy then on the Day of Judgment.

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Let us see whether these words are true.

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I have brought with me to genealogies. genealogy mean your ancestry, the ancestry of a person, your father, your grandfather, your great grandfather, and on and on and on.

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With you originating

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here is one

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the genealogy of Jesus Christ has given in

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The Gospel of St. Matthews.

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Here is another genealogy of Jesus Christ.

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This is Luke, St. Luke between the two.

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These two inspired authors inspired in inverted commas. They give you 66, fathers and grandfathers to Jesus Christ. 66

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is an amazing situation, a man who has no father,

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we believe.

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No Muslims are Muslim. If you contest this fact, we believe that Jesus Christ was born miraculously, without any human intervention. He had no father, his creator was gone by an act of will. God created Jesus when he's

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fine, Amaya kulula. Who

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says that whenever he wants to create anything, he may lose it. And the thing comes into being NOFA. Born miraculously, Matthew and Luke they give as 66 fathers and grandfathers to a man with no father.

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they say this is genealogy.

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There is only one name common to these two lists.

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There are two separate lists, but the only one name common to the boat. And that is Joseph.

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And Joseph is Joseph the Carpenter was not supposed to be there.

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A man who's not supposed to be is there.

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he tells us that the father of Joseph the carpenter, Matthew says, the name of Jesus father, the grandfather of Jesus was Jacob. And Luke tells us that the grandfather of Jesus was a contradiction.

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At the very start, the man was not supposed to be the is there and his grandfather's. There are six such contradictions in the genealogy alone.

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And this man who he tells us,

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says now Luke, chapter three, verse 23, it says, Now Jesus Himself began his ministry at about 30 years of age. The

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words in brackets words in brackets, as was supposed, the son of Joseph, the son of

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his son of Joseph, was in brackets, as was supposed,

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of course, Dr. will explain to you where the brackets come from, you see in the Codex is that the Christians are boasting about in the British Museum, Codex Sinaiticus, Codex alexandrinus, Codex vaticanus, the name the woods as was supposed are not the

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best so they put them in packets.

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To help the reader that Look, he is not actually the son of Joseph, it was supposed people thought that Carpenter was his father he suppose.

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So the wooden bracket, but in the 2000 different languages of the world,

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in Arabic, in in Gujarati in Zulu, in Afrikaans. The words as I suppose, are there, but the brackets are removed.

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You see, it's very, very easy to manufacture in Christian the Word of God. First you put them into brackets. In the English Bible, they are in brackets, but every other Bible in the vernacular, the words are there with the brackets are taken out. In other words, they are telling you that these are the words of Luke and Luke was inspired, meaning they are the Word of God. So this is how the words are being manufactured Word of God, which is not the word of God.

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So Allah says

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to them, who write the book with your own hands, from my akuna house,

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then they say this is from Allah lista de semonin karela that they may reap some small benefits some small reward

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by their experimentation

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at him, so walk with them for what the hands do, right? What

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a boon to them for what they

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These are not the words of God.

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Stories, Dr. Joseph Parker continues stories a halftone

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and the nightfalls before we can tell where it truly means we don't know the head of killer what the whole thing is all about.

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How beautiful

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and the night forms before we can tell if it truly what happened.

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Man, what was the outcome of all this? Here?

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I'm giving an example. Matthew, chapter 27, verses 52 and 53.

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It says, and the graves were open, grave, grave Cemetery in the cemetery graveyard, the graves will open

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after the alleged resurrection of Jesus, the grave grave with open, and many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep when were dead and buried, were raised and coming out of the grave. after his resurrection, they went into the holy city of Jerusalem, and appeared to many people came out of the graves, and they marched down the streets of Jerusalem.

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People in the coffins are napkins are all worn out only skeletons. They came out of the graves in the walk the streets of Jerusalem.

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And what happened? finish that song?

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First up,

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look, when people come out of the greens and walk the streets of Jerusalem, surely people saw.

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And that's news that become World News. You know that? If people from the Greeks come out in Birmingham, they actually will do World News. Work in the city of Birmingham in the in the napkins.

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It'll be news. But out of the 27 books of the New Testament, only Matthew records it nobody else. Nobody saw it. Nobody heard about it.

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Once you come out of your grave, would you like to go back?

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To the Where did they go? With the transform that they were taking? What happened? Nothing.

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Surely, if you came out of the grave after your death, you'd like to go and meet your wife again, no second life have a second inning.

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So stories are half and the nightfalls. Before we can tell, which really were Is there anything in the religious literature of men to compare with this? Agree, Agree.

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Agree. But does that prove is a word of God? No.

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Story is a halftone. I

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am reading to you now.

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from the book of Judges,

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a book in the Bible

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after him.

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Genesis chapter three, verse 31.

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After him, was shamgar,

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the son of Allah

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Who killed 600 men of the Philistines.

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One man, he killed 600 of the Palestinians, one man

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with an office code ox gold.

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And he also delivered Israel.

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Now, this goat goat code I don't know how many of you know what is a code. You see the first time I read about this? As a young man. I read it in the book of Acts, Acts a CTS Acts chapter nine, verses four and five.

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Where it says that Paul, while he was on his way to Damascus, he saw a vision of Jesus.

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Jesus appears to him and he says Saul Saul

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why persecutest me? Why are you harassing me what you persecuting me for? Why clickers myself against the bricks?

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And I was shocked. So what is this using such filthy dirty language? So I went out on my search as a youngster asking the priests What is this?

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And the priests will help us. They'll help explain to me what is Jesus talking about kicking against that? I will repeat it.

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Now in the Bible that brother

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he presented to me at the Royal Albert Hall, this beautiful Bible here.

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This is the fifth major revision.

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This Bible is the fifth major revision

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fifth major revision.

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I know

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you see I thought the King James Version or in England they call it the Authorized Version was the one of 1600 11 that it has been already through five

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major revisions.

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And they still call it King James. That's an anomaly. You see, in the time of King James 1611, this Bible was brought together

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then they found the something not altogether, right. So they made a major change major, you understand English major, minor, minor, a small major is big. It's not fiddly little things.

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Major. You see, this is like your great, great, great grandfather. He made his last will and testament.

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And your great great grandfather, he made a major change in the will. And the upgrade grandfather made another major change in the will and your grandfather made another major change in that will and your father made another major change in that will. And you made another major change in that will.

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And you still insisting that this is the original last will and testament of your great great great grandfather.

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Amazing use of language. Imagine the language that they're using five major changes revisions, and they still say this is the King James Version. So in this major revision, they changed the word that would have had offensive word to go go go and ask the Americans what is a code when you go out when you meet the English man asked him what is the code? And believe me, he wouldn't be able to explain to you what is the code?

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So I

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yes, I show you this, this this this.

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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much. My dear brothers and sisters. You see to make it easy for my brothers and sisters who never heard the word original word. They never heard the word gold that this guy shanga he used an ox code.

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So I brought it for you

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see this another word for this is a capital product. The

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opscode Capital product spiked stick is a little measure spike stick for prodding.

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You know with this stick this Jewish lad shamgar he killed 600 Palestinians with this

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you know you can you can destroy 600 snowman with this.

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This thing will break 606

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is a miracle. Yes. This is a miracle. It's a miracle virus except that you see, this is now is programming people. If one Jewish boy can kill 600 Palestinians, what were the Palestinians doing?

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look as if the fools that could run they can run for the life what were the waiting way and ready to follow spike down with this to kill 601 234.

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We have with us a very learner brother here on the stage. He is a psychiatrist among Western psychology. He will be able to tell you when you make people to read stories of this nature. What a certain Jewish boy did to your people. 600 of you with this take your psychology your mentality what happens? I'll demonstrate to you what really happens. That's not the end.

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Then they tell us in credulous fairy tales, the book,

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it says yeah, another Jewish young man

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by the name of Samson, Samson, Samson and Delilah. The story that Cecil development famous Samson and Delilah, David and Bathsheba studies the film's this fellow Samson.

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I'm reading from the book of Judges, chapter 15 verses 15 and 16.

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He found a fresh Jawbone of a donkey, a donkey Jawbone he found fresh fresh.

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He reached out his hand and took it and killed 1000 Palestinians with the jawbone of a donkey

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a Palestinian he got to know that this is now programming taking place look beautiful. One Jewish boy with a Jawbone of a donkey hit us 1000 Palestinians I want to know what the Palestinians were doing you know what's 1000 1000 people you can do the job of a donkey and what they do is these 1000 people that spider in the guy would have suffocated.

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You can't even spit. You can.

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There is a miracle. The stick is a miracle the jawbone of the dog is a miracle. You know, we should go and tell these Riley's they're wasting their time because American bombs you know, in Beirut, this type of eliminated the Palestinians for good the final solution.

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The final solution with American cluster bombs in the fate I said look when I tell them find the job of the donkey and find this magic stick with magic stick. You do a cleaner job.

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And Samson after killing the 1000 Palestinians

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he sings a song.

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Job one Jawbone of a donkey heaps upon heaps with a Jawbone of a donkey Aslan 1000. Men gray. So Hooray.

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Then this book of God in inverted commas

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Book of Judges Book of Judges so the name of a book chapter 15, verses four and five. It tells us that the same Samson Samson has got magical powers.

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He went and fought 300 foxes.

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You know Fox, Fox, normally only

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you know to catch a chicken

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is to catch a chicken in the in the open. catch one chicken catch when she gets one goat.

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You know, it's an odd cheese you haven't tried? You get them in bins? You have them already dressed. Notice how we call the underscore.

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And you can pick up you try to catch one live chicken. Live sheep live goat.

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This Samson Jewish young man he caught 300 foxes.

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foxes embarrassed I really find them 300 boxes to one get 300 and he caught them and he tied them till today to two at a time to two.

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It doesn't say male or female. tu tu tu tu tu tu

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he made 150 pairs

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150 pairs of male and female

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and the cooperated. The foxes cooperated.

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tame dogs when oodles and oodles of tiny dogs. You try and tie try to tie the tails of two and see what they do to you.

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Samson, you see he had those magic powers.

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He cut them and he tightened tail to tail and he put fire between the tails fire between the tails and the cooperative. And he told them go for the fields of the Palestinians and they went and they destroyed the fields, the graves of the Palestinians. I said you believe that? You believe that? He said yes.

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Today another Jewish lad

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Celesta Stallone. He goes as Rambo Rambo three

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he is Shankar and Samson in one

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shamgar and Samson in one Rambo Rambo. Rambo three.

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This fellow single handed almost he killed 123 Russians. That's a figure if you count on the phone if you have the time, stopping stopping every time he kills them and counted 123 and he went with the whole Russian Army and the Russian army was made to leave Afghanistan.

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Samson and shunga in one Rambo three you can do it in films. Anything anything you can do anything on film, but see certainly mill failed to produce a 3000 foxes who would cooperate with him to put fire between the tails and go for the few of the policies and CFA? Is this something magical? no magic of the camera can ever achieve that.

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Rambo did it Samson and Shankar did it. You see there is a kink a twist

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in the human cranium. In the human brain, there is a twist, everyone, everyone

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that the more preposterous the proposition.

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Unbelievable fantastical imaginable, the more people

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bosses the preposition the more readily with the superstitious and the credulous will.

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Rate man, there is no limit to your exaggeration, exaggerate. And there'll be people wanting to be they'll nod their head to say, yes, it can happen, because

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the end result what it does,

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we will come to that.

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You see,

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the Christians, they say,

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and I will deal with it if I have the time.

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They say the Quran is forged.

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It is copied from the Jews and the Christians. Dr. Sharon, in the last debate,

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he said, let me challenge you 75% of the wonderful core and in my wonderful language of Arabic is from the Bible. And I would urge you to look into the Bible and find out where the sources are. Let me challenge you. I'm quoting.

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He said, let me challenge you. I don't know whether he was challenging me or the audience or all of us. So let me challenge you 75% of that wonderful Koran, in my wonderful language of Arabic

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word for word encodings.

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You can get this tape the tapes are available outside

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in case you will you doubt my words

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of that wonderful Koran, in my wonderful language of Arabic is from the Bible.

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If I have the time, I'll deal with that in detail. I will deal with that in detail is from the Bible is copied from the Bible is plagiarized from the Bible is cribbed from the Bible.

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So the Quran answers that. Look, God Almighty, He doesn't need my help. He answers it. He says I'm yeppoon afara are Buddhists at first it was fortunate

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come comm produced

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by the

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law and all your APA anyone who has a lot of income from sadiki. In other words, the challenges they produce something like a mama did it. He covered it. Come on and you with your learning. You see the western I had a good excuse swag. I've had a good excuse. You know, Jerry Falwell will have a good excuse me the guy good excuse. We don't we don't we don't know Arabic.

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Dr. Sharon

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is going to excuse

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you say thank you. Thank you.

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Dr. Chavez, no excuse. He is upon error.

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He is not a Muslim was converted to Christianity. He is born Arab. And his people have been Christians before Islam. Give them that credit. As he boasted in Birmingham at one of my meetings, he said there are 10 million Arab Christians

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10 million will be more now. 14 million, 14 million Arab Christians. I'm open to be rectified. It was 10 million on take is gone to 14 is quite alright.

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These are Arab Christians. Arabic is that mother tongue, not the mother tongue. The mothers have the tongue in their mouth.

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Look, this look is his mother tongue, which come naturally to him. And the challenge is there for 1400 years produce a chapter like it.

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Brother says he will we will be anxiously awaiting to listen to the chapter he has produced

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1400 years that pain. Dr. Sharon has managed it and we are looking forward with eagerness to his production.

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Copy copy.

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I'm asking what is the copy? What have you got that is worth copying?

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There are according to one of the mightiest evangelists. televangelists in America. He says he writes a book on *.

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You know *? I won't belabor you insist you see when you go with somebody else's wife or daughter have * out of marriage. It is adultery or fornication.

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But when you go and sleep with your own mother, your own daughter, your own sister, your own daughter in law that is *. There are 10 cases of * in this book of God.

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That types and types of insects that you can commit

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a textbook if you want to know what what types and as a result, in my country, the whites of South Africa, most of them are Christians. 8% of all whites in South Africa, the committee insists with their own daughters and 13% of the Americans are committing * with their own daughters.

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I didn't touch his name, but he's a psychiatrist, he will be able to confirm Dr. Vernon Jones, a psychologist of elite repute. He carried out experiments on groups of schoolchildren to whom certain stories were being read. And he said that these stories may certain slight but permanent changes in character, the type of story that you read between the type of mentality that you have.

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If you read junky stuff, your mind will become junky, you eat junk food, you will become chunky.

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Amazing, out of the 10 cases of *, Muhammad didn't copy a single one.

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Then you read me

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not only *, how to read your own sister if you want to. It's given to you in detail. If you want to make your own sister, one of the sons of David, he sent you an example what what you must do if your own sister

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is their son goes to 10 of his father's wife 10 in a row.

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I'm telling you this is in the holy book, a Christian lady here in the UK here in the UK. She wrote a letter she says back

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what it has vanished. But of course, your salvation.

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In his book,

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Jesus prophecy and the Middle East, on page 35, he gives us a list

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of things that is quoting listen America, by Jerry Falwell. And he gives us a list of the crime rate the way it has increased in America. This is from his book.

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The type of things that you read, this is what you read in the result.

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Book of Judges,

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the book of the Bible, Chapter 16 was one

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I'm reading

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diligent listeners

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pay attention.

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Then Samson went to Costa

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Rica with his Palestinian children, you know, fighting for the freedom.

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You call them terrorists.

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Those little children have been more than 250 have already done.

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Palestinian children.

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So Samson goes to Gaza at the same time.

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And he saw

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a prostitute and we went into her full stop.

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What does it teach you? Samson goes to casa. And he sees a holiday or a prostitute and he goes in unto her full stop nothing more. There's not a single redeeming word or phrase that this guy for what he did. Well, maybe this was a Palestinian whore or prostitute. So it means nothing to the Palestinian. Maybe she was an Israeli war. It might have been something. She was not inside.

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So God didn't give him a he didn't give him vd didn't give

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the model Bible. They say he spent the night with her. was doing what Hallelujah. Hallelujah, Hallelujah. spending a night with a prostitute all night. What do you do? Hallelujah.

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What is the more

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you see Ian Fleming. Ian Fleming. He wrote this double oh seven James Bond.

00:54:34 --> 00:54:41

I'm told that you know, wherever he goes, this is the middle room and he goes into bed with wherever you go. He's like eating peanuts. Wherever This is everyone.

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I'm asking Ian Fleming asked him. Where did you get the idea from here? The book is telling you. This guy goes to Gaza. He's

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it portrays God Almighty is Ababa. You

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he says here, the book of Isaiah bukoba says, the appearance of the prophets. You say the fifth gospel is the gospel. In the same day the Lord will shave with a higher reason. The Lord means God will shape with a hydration.

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with those who will be on the river with the king of Assyria, the head and the head of the legs, he will shave your head and the head of your legs. It doesn't say how high

00:55:48 --> 00:55:50

you tell that you are bothered today?

00:55:51 --> 00:55:52

You know?

00:55:54 --> 00:55:57

He said Don't you know about iMac or beat

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every day.

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God Almighty He He takes this and he's gonna shave people's legs hair on the legs.

00:56:09 --> 00:56:11

What are you trying to do to God? Yachty?

00:56:29 --> 00:56:33

Yeah, yeah, some no absolute

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absolute nonsense. Oh my god.

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It says here I'm reading from two seconds. Chapter 22 was a nine to 11

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it says smoke. When alpha is nostrils allows nostrils. You know people love to smoke and smell from the nose when you get diarrhea.

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Smoke came out from his nostrils

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and devouring fire from his mouth like the dragon.

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And the fire from his mouth.

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was 11. He wrote

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he wrote a labyrinth Allah is riding on it

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and flew out of it is flying on it. Should

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they do it?

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You see, I went to St. Peter's in Rome.

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St. Pete his brother has also been there. I'm sure. He has been speaking about St. Peter's in his book claims about the St. Peter's in Rome is a huge, huge church. St. Peter's in Rome, at the Vatican.

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Inside the Vatican inside

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the youngsters that be with me. You see they made me stand against the wall

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and they took some shots.

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And the shot was of this gentleman

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cherubim meaning young Criss angels. See angels are beautiful.

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In Western artistry designs, drawings you find a good proportion. This is 3624 36

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with wings

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you find this in the puzzles dictionary they give you a definition a child like a child is injured.

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So the picture is here

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for you to see. I think once it is on video you'll be able to see that rose Potter's in marble. This was in flesh colored marble. You can pass this on.

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This is

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absolutely good. Actually the marble flesh color marble

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in the Holy of Holies

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they have been

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naked you can see the breast the * and the buttocks. And if you follow the millions of hands have gone over the buttocks from the sheet on the marble you can make that everybody passes by wants to feel that model and is a sheet of shine on the marble will give you an electric shock if you touch it

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God Almighty imagine is writing these things. These young girls, young girls.

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He didn't know what a helicopter

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flying saucer. He's reading little girls.

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What are you doing?

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This is what

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you're making me

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this, Houston he might

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make a good

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Christian has the audacity

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is hard the money is hard.

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He wrote a book called Black Code and holy war.

01:00:31 --> 01:00:37

This is telling the Americans how best to fix it not tightening the screw on the Arabs. He's an error.

01:00:38 --> 01:00:41

He's an error. His name is his heart.

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And in this book is giving ideas to the Americans and the Western nations how to screw on the air.

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But by the way, he's describing

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01:00:58 --> 01:01:14

God Almighty, is describing this Christian era is describing Allah because of the ideas he has got from his book. He says, I'm reading page 17. The Muslims view of God is that an elderly,

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elderly man little baby like God, Allah.

01:01:25 --> 01:01:26

He got it from the Bible.

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You know, God Almighty, in this book, if it is a book of God, he seems to have a special predilection for preferential partiality for the Palestinians, special place he has for the Palestinians in his book,

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this Bible

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that the Palestinians can be used, not for cannon fodder.

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But for for skin for the

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one Samuels book of Samuel, chapter 18, verse 27.

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It says here, therefore, David Rose, and when he and his wife, David,

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and killed 200 Palestinians.

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And they brought the four skins. You know, when you have not circumcision, that skill, you should throw away very valuable.

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It might be used for currency.

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When you go back, one day when you might be used for currency, same currency the day when you

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200 Palestinians, Philistines, and David brought the four skins and they and they gave them in full count for Count

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1231 pound two pounds three pounds, he counted up 200 cash, cash for skills to get a life in Vince's in a solid spot that he paid out in for skins and the Palestinians was used for currency, cheap, cheap, currency. 204 monitors some special lighting, what type of thing loves them so much the Palestinians.

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And Moses I'm reading from the Book of Numbers, chapter 31, verses 15 1787 said to them heavy can

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now pay for kill every male among the little ones. Every male among the little ones of the Palestinians.

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And every kid every woman who has known men intimately

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if any woman has ever had * with a man, children also,

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but keep an eye for yourselves. All the young girls, not the little ones, little ones is a liability. You got to know man for that.

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But keep an eye for yourself. All the angles, the Palestinian girls who have not known a man intimately. This is the instruction given to Jewish soldiers in the field. Now when they see a young Palestinian girl, how can you verify whether this woman has experienced * or not? How did you get the soldier in the field? He doesn't know about the saliva test.

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She doesn't know anything about it. The only way is to read and manage this Palestinian girls to verify whether a man has been through her or not. And if they discover that she has already been used secondhand showerhead is not cheap them and they save for themselves. That the 2000 Palestinian girl

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No man had no after vaping and rubbishing them, they say for themselves, that the 2000 for themselves and out of that the Lord Almighty God Almighty must also have his pound of flesh. So it says, and that the end to was for the law.

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I'm asking, what does the law do?

01:05:25 --> 01:05:30

What does he do with 32 raped and radish Palestinian girls? You tell me

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that you put on and you're verified

01:05:39 --> 01:05:40

male and female

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you must keep and they do one that no

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law. If you believe I am asking,

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my dear whether you believe

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you believe?

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Of course he does. What happens? What happens? It changes your mentality.

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So he writes in his book,

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Jesus prophecy in the Middle East. He

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is a strange thing to him

01:06:23 --> 01:06:24

that the Arabs are fighting

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for Palestine is a strange thing. He says I'm quoting him, let me quote

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that the adage control 3 million square miles of land, but cannot allow is my kinfolk as the weather he considers us esteem for the kids

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to have 10,000 square miles, only 10,000 square miles. We have a parcel of land Palestine has actually been in the hands of the

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consumer, the descendants of Jacob, yet God promised it to this Jew.

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He believes that God promises to the Jews.

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And he says yes, not 10,000. Now he says, page 61 of the same book.

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This is in fact, according to Genesis 1518 in Jeremiah 23, seven and eight, the promise will eventually come 180,000 square miles from the

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30s. He's prepared to give it to them. He's given

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that Shanker stick and Samson's job, did the job see psychology?

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On Page 65 says, What about Israel's invasion of Lebanon in June 1982?

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Actually, southern Lebanon is prophetically considered a part of

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you Lebanese people you address what are you worried about?

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The Jews.

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He cries crocodile tears in his book, liberated Palestinian. He cries, over 2 million of my people are suffering. I'm quoting.

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Over 2 million of people are suffering. Many are sick and lonely. Some have been in refugee camps for over 35 years now over 40 years.

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Mo his father had

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his cousin was killed by the Jews.

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But what is the end result of all this? His people are censoring. He says we are bitter and sick and lonely, he says described.

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So it supports page 175. It supports a small Palestinian state on the

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Palestinian state on the west bank with its own police force.

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Traffic Police

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but without a standing army on the West Bank.

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You know, amazing this morning's paper The Sunday Times

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you find an echo of that very sentiment as if it is masters voice

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is masters voice

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had me he's selling the very same thing of me the Palestinians.

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Wait, but you wait, you wait till the election is over? And then we will give you

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on the West Bank. Let me read his words. Let's be real. I don't misquote

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It says here.

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He said the exact same Israeli Prime Minister has told Palestinians from the west

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Spain that the government might confer some authority on the occupied occupied territories, but only after the elections later this year later this year have a chance of having your wishes fulfilled.

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This is the debate is that the thing that is the word of God? Then it's it's a natural thing that you have to listen haka, whatever you are suggesting the guy saying that he has limited autonomy, running everything in the territory except security. Exactly. As if I had been going there, he had been been there sooner with the 67. He was given six months.

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Out of the seven, he was there. pictures are given. He is ministering to wounded Israeli soldiers.

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His ministry to wounded Israeli soldiers in more than 30 pictures in the liberated modern Palestinian, there is not a single Palestinian refugee in the book. No picture, but Israeli soldiers. So we have to.

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He's leading people from America on a pilgrimage to Palestine to an average of two every year. What does it this is belief, once you believe that this is the destiny of your people to become slaves to become cannon fodder and foreskin for the for the Jews?

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Is this the

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people with reason turn to the Palestinians, I would like to see a Palestinian going tell the people in

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the club, from the 1930s you should be dealing with the Jews, southern Lebanon should be doing to the Jews. What does it this is the book has done a good job, good job of insulating the minds of people.

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Gives us a test.

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How are we to know whether a book is on board or not? It gives us a test in Surah chapter four, verse 82. It says,

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consider the Quran with K Don't you see, when I

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had it been from anyone other than Allah,

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you would have found in it many discrepancy, contradiction. This is a test, which we have yet to

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see whether it is consistent with itself or there are full of contradictions. I will only give you one.

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And I'm reading from the New Testament, john chapter 18, verse nine, john at 9am, hoping

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that the same might be fulfilled, which he spoke,

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that the same might be fulfilled, which he spoke

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of those in inverted commas of those who knew me I have lost men, clause of inverted commas.

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Of those who you gave me, I have lost men. Men means not one, not a single one who says that Jesus

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is in inverted commas as any Christian preacher, and he will tell you, these are the words of Jesus. And then the Bible that's given to me.

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sugars Thank you very much. This is called a red letter Bible.

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Red Letter, meaning every word that Jesus spoke is in red. So very easy, very easy to find out whether Jesus spoke these words or not you open john chapter 18, verse nine, and he says C's it is in red, which means these are the words of Jesus in the Bible. The fifth major English words of Jesus

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just means he lost money, not wiping out the truth that God gave him. He didn't lose a single one.

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But in john 17, just one chapter before,

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was 12 St. Jesus, he says,

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while I was with them in the world, I kept them in your name. Those who you gave me. You gave me

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an optimist last month, except

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the son of perdition except one.

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Except What? Judas Iscariot

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in chapter

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17, he says,

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What did he say? He said what he said.

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stupendous difference. contradiction. One or

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word of difference.

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So the question them

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very ingenious, very ingenious. In this book, The words that are in read

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Another King James Version, the sixth major revision

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letter, printer by the same person press, same printers.

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Red Letter Bible yo minute, Chapter 18, verse nine, it is in black.

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Isn't that what happened?

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to change it back to black?

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Because they saw

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so correctly, but they're still in inverted commas, who scooped the words.

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So it says no, you see the difference is only one.

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I said you made a court of law. If you testify like that, you say on one occasion one another when you said nine, you can be charged for perjury, bearing false witness, you know that. So now Jesus is in the box. I the Jesus you put him in the box, ask him Did you say one?

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Oh, it was not Jesus, Jesus. Nothing about that. Then you put john in the box. Hey, you wrote the chapter 17. one chapter.

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How did you get that?

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But God john is supposed to be inside with who? The ghost? Who is the Holy Spirit with God.

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So now God is in the box? We put him in the box. Excuse me, Sir, did you say chapter 17? One. And in chapter 18. You said man, did you you know the difference in the meaning between one man, as

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we say this is not the word of God. This is not the word of God. But he says the difference is what?

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You see, time is running out pretty fast.

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The Quran gives us a quality control.

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He says the Quran is here to confirm what is right what is true in the previous revelation. And

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and it is a guardian in safety, a production of the previous revelation. Now let's see what it does.

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You see

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the Bible.

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In the book of Exodus, we are told, we are told that Moses wants to see God. And God tells him No.

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But he's insistent

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in two rocks,

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and he puts his hand in the opening chords and

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then he turns his back, and he takes away his hand. So Moses saw that

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this was back. This is because my face can be seen you mustn't see my face.

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But the same book tells us

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that Jacob saw the face of God. Genesis chapter 32, verse 30, it says, and Jacob called the name of the place the need for I have seen God face to face.

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in Exodus chapter 33, verse 11, the same book

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for the Lord spoke to Moses face to face, as a man speaks to his friend not showing his back.

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Now we want to know which is the word of God, did Moses see him or he only saw his backside? What is it? Why would it go to his face, the face, the human face.

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Forget for a moment Forget it. Now, whether this is the book of God or not forget it, just on the human level say so many level

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courses in the quran quran.

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In the Bible, we are told that God created the heavens and the earth in six days, and on the seventh day he rested and was refreshed

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and was refreshed. Meaning after a hard day's work, he needed rest and he had to be refreshed.

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The Quran says Welcome to mama, mama PC today. I mean, we have visited the heavens and the earth and everything in between in six days.

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And we found the word no weariness, no tiredness, no fatigue in our creation. Take your child

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who needs rest after six days and has to be refreshed, or the one who says she feels goofy in guiding and creating his creation?

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Then the doctor has made very much in the last debate about eating. This is you know, we are denying the right the pleasure of eating, you know, the street angels that came to Abraham, and the people affected cars and cakes, politics, and he said that before them and they act says the by the act of it, he had fatted calf. And the angels they act very

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similar story about the angels visiting Abraham. And they say the angels of the Lord they knew he this fool you boy patient is not the food of God, not a dangerous choice, or the Bible.

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God not omnipotent, this is the last one.

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But looking at them, Jesus said Martin was 27 with many is impossible, or not with God or with God, all things are possible.

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With God, all things are possible. But in the book of Genesis, chapter one, verse 19, I can read this. It says, so the Lord was with Judah,

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and they throw out the inhabitants of the mountains, Judah and God, they gather the truth of the inhabitants of the mountains, but they would not drive out the inhabitants of the land.

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Because they have chariots of iron, their tanks, games, our car of the day. So God Almighty she couldn't prefer the Quran says

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he is the tour of all he intends. Take your choice.

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Thank you, Mr. Othman.

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Ladies and gentlemen.

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the conduct of this meeting must not only be fair, but also seem to be fair, it is therefore necessary to address you on the following. an objection was raised by Dr. Anita Sharon, you might not have heard.

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he objected to certain parts of Mr. de la to discussion on the basis that it was not relevant to the topic of a political nature. This objection was overruled for the reason that although it was peripheral to the topic, it was employed as an example to substitute the point of direct relevance.

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Ladies and gentlemen, another very, very important point of interest, and I will appeal to you respectfully, not to interject from the floor. This is extremely disruptive and counterproductive. Dr. Basil Jackson to introduce Dr. unease. Sharon, ladies and gentlemen.

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salaamu alaikum

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what an honor it is for me today

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to participate in this meeting.

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And to be called upon to introduce my friend,

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Dr. Nice sureau.

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But before I speak specifically of him

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I would like to thank, in a special way,

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the Islamic Propagation center for all that they have done to make this meeting possible. And in particular to Mr. shamshad con, for all that he has done, and the effort and the energy that he personally has expended to bring this meeting to pass. Now, let me emphasize

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that I make no claim

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to be a specialist in Islamic Studies, or to be an Islamic scholar.

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I would like also to emphasize

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my feeling of good fortune today.

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I have visited the Republic of South Africa on many occasions. And each time that I visit there, I stay with a Muslim friend and his family in Johannesburg.

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And two years ago, he introduced me to the works into the studies of Mr. de da.

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And therefore, it is a special honor for me today, sir, to occupy the same platform as you a scholar and a gentleman.

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Now, to the task at hand.

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Dr. Nice Sharon

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is an Arab whose roots go back to Nazareth,

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the hometown of Jesus Christ.

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His tribal origins are the Rehan is of Saudi Arabia.

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Dr. Sharon Sharon, the Bachelor of Arts degree from Mississippi college,

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a master of divinity degree from New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary,

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a doctor of ministry from Luther rice Seminary in Florida. And three weeks ago, he was awarded a Doctorate of philosophy degree from Oxford graduate school, where I first met him

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and where I had the honor to be one of his professors.

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He served as a pastor in Jerusalem until 1966. Then felt God's call to international evangelism and subsequently moved to the United States.

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seven books, five film documentaries have been produced by Mr. Sharon. Thus far.

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25,000 copies of his book Islam revealed his eighth book will be released within a few weeks by Thomas Nelson publishers.

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Please let us now welcome to the second largest city in the United Kingdom.

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And to this historical occasion, the dynamic servant of Christ, my personal friend, and one of our guest speakers today, Mr. Dr. Nish. Shaw Roche rihani.

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Chairman, distinguished guests, ladies and gentlemen,

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is Melanie mahallesi. Warby, I greet you in the name of Jesus Christ, the man from my hometown, my Lord and Savior,

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Koran, or the Bible, which is God's word.

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Now to our puppet,

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or the Bible, which is God's word. Both Christians and Muslims face a rising tide of atheism, humanism, secularism and materialism throughout the global village, over 5 billion people. There is a staggering amount of confusion concerning the doctrine of God, which is sweeping our planet. We must we should, we need to bolster the fate of veterans who believe and put their trust in the revealed Word of God at this crucial period in history, large Christians

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Muslim communities in some areas in the world, such as Russia and China are placed under severe pressure to surrender their faith together. As Christians and Muslims, we must stand and insist upon the absolute validity of the 10 commandments. And the high moral standards revealed in our scripture in contradistinction to what the above mentioned philosophies seek to enforce upon us while in mainland China a few years ago, with my associate Mr. Sparks, who is with us this evening, I was urge power to leader who had been born in China from missionary parents, if the Chinese Sq don't tell them that the West is more advanced than they are amazed and amused I

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would that not be considered this honesty? The reply was No. Why not? I persisted, because we do not want them to get upset and feel badly since they are convinced they are the most advanced society in the whole world. May I ask you? What is your reaction to such a situation? How long can you keep the bright sunshine from the eyes of the beholder, either must blindfold himself forever? Or go into a cave and live there denying there is anything but darkness in this world? No, no, no. The time has come. The limit of light for the millions of eyes, God commanded on the first day of creation, the light and there was light. Therefore, to answer the very serious question, the poor are are the

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Bible wishes God's word. I will reply emphatically.

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When a yes and no. Yes. Is and no, the Koran is not God's word. Bear in mind, please. I am a seeker seeking fat, nonfiction, researching for truth, not lies, and attempting to find the right path, not the wrong one. My dissertation for the Doctor of philosophy degree, earned only three weeks ago is entitled understanding Islam. I wonder, understand and know more about the Quran, the prophet of Arabia and Islam, the religion of most of my Arab people, I say most because as of last year, when our institute gave me statistics indicating that 174 million Arabs, 14 million of them claim the Christian faith.

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I have tried to be objective in my research, careful, earnest, and many times, spending time in fasting and prayer. Believe me. Now I present you with my findings. It is my hope you have come up with open, closed minds with genuine desire to seek truth, not surface interest. Some of my findings will not be very pleasing to you. They were not to me either. It is very possible that your traditional faith will be shaken in few minutes, and your intellect challenged what I'm about to present to you. I present as truth in love, not hate. The material is perfect to instruct you not to insult you. We want to analyze,

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examine and investigate our topic thoroughly. Yet, if you fear becoming irrational, as some of you have been jumping up and down, rather than stay rational, my advice to you please stand up and leave us now.

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However, before you make such a decision, let me remind you that you will have one solid hour of participation during the question and answer period. Take notes, write your questions, and we'll try to answer them. We are holding neither a boxing match here nor a circus. You can go to the cinema or theater if you want to be entertained, rather than disrupt the scholarly and historic discussion. Mr. Dylan and I invite you please vacate the premises and leave us alone in peace. The Sunday Express has about which I saw from that room of my hotel on the Billboard it says when everything fails, men use their brains. Your stroll is a peaceful man. Even the name of my first son is called

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Salim. Which makes me Abu Salim inherit backyard Chinese story

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Since 1976, China has opened its doors to the outside world. And the Chinese are convinced now that there are other nations who are socially, scientifically and technologically more advanced than they

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do use their own popular saying, China has finally stood up. In other words, China is seeking to catch up with the rest of the advanced world, even the Soviet Union are now excited about last last, openness and perestroika restructuring after decades of Russian banks, Mr. Gorbachev, Stalin is now recognized for our three walls, a mirror of 130 million of his own people. Now, the Muslim world has been convinced for centuries that their religion is the best, and the Koran is the last testament. If this is true, not fiction, authentic documents not borrowed throughs mixed with tales. Why then are Muslim governments so terrified of the freedom of religion? This freedom is available to

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citizens of every industrialized and christianized country, but denied events? Why did the market have MLS last week, in Sharjah, denied me interest to breach an insurance there for the past week. Mr. Neeraj, to my knowledge has never been denied entry to any christianized or industrialized country in the world. Why have they built a formidable wall around the borders mightier than the Wall of China and the Berlin Wall? Why is the human being denied citizenship in Saudi Arabia is not a Muslim, we know.

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Bamboo, but few seem to recognize the Muslim culture. Why do women and children have fared so poorly in most thank God, not all Muslim countries, discrimination and prejudice are constantly the targets of the pitch and Muslim machines and rulers but not practice. If truth is superior to a false one, then the only fear one should experience is fear itself. If Muslims actually feel something about these matters, I would like to suggest they look into the truth that we are about to share with you anyway. I have a dream.

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I have a dream, a dream, when the close nations of the world will open their doors to the fresh wind, the freedom of religion. Yes, freedom as Christ Jesus proclaimed in the sun makes you free, you shall be free. JOHN 836 Yes, I have a dream, a dream with men and women, boys and girls of all towns, and tribes, races and places can make the choice accepting or rejecting the revelation of God in Christ Jesus, and not be stopped from the practice of death, with Islam, Christianity, or any other religion. I believe, if they accept Christ, please note, I did not say Christianity or the Christian religion. They can learn to love God above all else, and through His Holy Spirit, they can

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love and forgive one another, unlimited peace across the centuries of human history. We have had many revolutions, religious, political, military, industrial, technological, and now the best is yet to be the best.

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Right now, the truth revolution, what a glorious day, the truth revolution. Let us now go into deeper waters. Here are some of the results of my research, analytical findings concerning the Quran and what I can emphatically declared First, the Quran is not the word of God later, why I think it is the word of God.

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I will appreciate the kindness of you, those of you who are Muslims in our audience, in allowing me to call your prophet either by the title of the Prophet Arabia, or his personal name. After all, Muslims do not call Jesus our Lord Jesus Christ, when we mention his name and you refer to him. Thank you, ma'am.

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Mr. reader, would you care to tell us what does the word by itself Bible mean? What is the origin of that word? in one language when was accused the side

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The name of the town where it came from.

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I also like to say that it will help to ask mysteryland to see if he can explain to you where did you come up with the word

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in the Koran when his name is Yeshua in Arabic.

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I would also like to ask Mr. denat

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a question to tell this great audience about his incredible work

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on the ultimate miracle, precious fringe. This gentleman has misled multitudes by his video books and cassettes and speeches on this 19 so called theory, which is now his hopes. I wonder, I wonder what else will come up from that direction? One scholarship? What brilliance was fabulous research by computers.

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Muslims have said that Allah has revealed himself most clearly in a book, not in the person.

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In contradistinction, Christians believe that in the beginning was the Word and the Word became a human being, Jesus, the Word of God.

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And the reader of the Quran, who is slightly familiar with Old Testament discovers that the names and events of Old Testament books and comics are very differently copied in the Quran. However, often, the stories in the Quran are garbled and confused. Mohammed must have heard these stories from his Jewish friends in Medina, where he lived during the time he said he received most of the revelations which became the Quran, his seventh wife, Rihanna, and nine Samia with juicy his first wife Khadija had a Christian background, and also an uncle, the ex wife Marian was part of a Christian sect from Egypt. They undoubtedly shared with him much of the goal, the New Testament

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literature, drama stories of comics and people that were singled out the following New Testament names from among the 28 authentic prophets according to the Quran, Adam, no, Abraham, Moses, Isaac, Jacob, Ishmael, I like to know when did Jacob right and what is my right sir, David, Solomon, Elijah, Elijah

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Surah Surah

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3231 a course of all things, a favor faking it to you just verse 30, and 31. But he states here,

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the mind imposed on both the killing of his brother on him that killing his brother is talking about

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Abel and Cain. Incidentally, the Quran doesn't know their names, they never mentioned that it stays that Allah saturator stretching the ground. And by observing that story, the scene now this brother, his brother, me and Katie, do you know that

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a story was written 200 years after the birth of Jesus tells us, Adam and he, sitting by the corpse of evil, wept, not knowing what to do, for they had as yet to know any knowledge of barium, a raven coming up, took the dead body of its stellar mate and having scratched up the earth, that it is dust before their eyes. That is the very exact word with a difference. It's Adam and Eve, instead of Canaan is brought on. If Islam could trace its origin and prophesy to Abraham, then we would expect to find the Old Testament, referring to Allah, Mohammed Mecca, the black stone of the Kaaba and the many ceremonies and practices of Islam. But the Bible is devoid of references to Mohammed. And there

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are no biblical references whatsoever to anything Islamic. It is much more reasonable to conclude that Islam grew from the polytheistic and Hellenistic culture of Mohammed shrine. In fact, the people of Mecca worship 360 idols man named Eli, Muhammad's Father, what was his name? If he brought new revelation? How come his father's name was, as most of you know,

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the servant of Allah

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from the second target, dating back to the second century, we find the source of surah NEMA and it is very fictitious. I'm not gonna read it.

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Bora Bora read you what this is and you think it's the Bron Solomon give orders our sin kings and armies against the of jimny beasts of the land and burden the air just read, a bird enjoying itself could not be found. King Solomon said that they should seize it and bring it to by force, and indeed he sought to kill it. But just then the cop appeared in the presence of the king and said,

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a bird is speaking, I had seen the whole world and know the city and victim of Shiva which is not subject to the My Lord King. They are ruled by a woman called the Queen of Sheba. The end of the story is fascinating as the bird goes and carries a letter and she comes back, and when she arrives, she sees the palace and the floor is of glass she think is what she tries to uncover her legs in the king screen isn't the Quran.

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This is not water. This is not the sea. This is glass, what an exciting story to be written in the Quran. The New Testament is borrowed so much, that in reality, there are so many sections of it, that 130 passages in the forum, refer to the Bible as low psalms in the Gospels. Also the apocryphal famous surah Emraan, the family of Emraan, verse 35, to 37 closely follows a spurious gospel account, proto evangelism, and it talks there about the famous story of Zechariah, his wife and the birth of their girl, Christian Harrison, it is fascinating to discover that Mohammed did not believe in the Trinity, the divinity and the resurrection of Jesus. To understand why this was so we must

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examine the Debian doctrines of historians and the followers of this man, sectarian Christians who migrated to Arabia 140 years before Mohammed. Mohammed apparently drew these denials from the heresy nestorius was the Patriarch of Constantinople in 8428. He did not believe the same truth as the Bible teaches, and therefore it was rejected. What did he do, he and his followers fled to different places, among them Persia and Arabia, where they made their acquaintance with a family of a prophet. Most Christian scholars believe, and Muslim history attests that Mohammed came in contact with nestorians during his travels to Damascus, when he was 12 years of age, and what Hira saw in him the

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possibility of a prophet 12 minutes later, he convinced him of that traveled with him and taught him most of what he knew about what we call the biblical stories from the Christian viewpoint, even as the ancient Arabs reported, reportedly had seven celebrated temples dedicated to the seven planets. Among them was the temple of Suriname, which was built in honor of Venus, and the one and Mecca consecrated to Central stone worship prevailed at an early period among the Arabs, as among many other nations stones shaped like the famed Egyptian herbalists and 10 feet high. You can go with me to South Jordan and see it in the city of Petra to display the ancient nabataean Arabs worship the

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stone called pellets. I want to ask you, if you've been to the Hajj, why do you kiss that stone in the cabability

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have been appointed to guard the structure. Apparently, they were careless in the duties because Abraham and his son Ishmael, are said to have rebuilt it the first time and others did the same later, after another flood. Some idols of the ancient Arabs are mentioned by name in the Quran.

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Allah, Chief item of time is supposed to mean the goddess and Lucien probably symbolized the planet Venus, although it was worshipped as the form of a Babel dream. Man X was a large sacrificial stone soul was a female deity yahoos was in the form of a lion

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in the shape of a horse, and NASA had the shape of an eagle. In front of the camera itself was the great image of the Guardian deity of matter. The secrets of inner and the testament of Abraham, the subject at hand is the famous mirage of Mohammed. It is recognized as the night in which he went to heaven by way of Jerusalem riding

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Animal as long as I could see whose face was the face of a woman with cosmetics on it. Ayesha, surprisingly enough, declaring statically the body of the Prophet of Allah did not disappear. But Allah took away his spirit by night. Here is the passage in Surah penaeus ra E, which also has another name and israa. Here is Chopin Allah, the US Ravi Leyland Minal messenger haraam, Elon Musk oxen Glorified be he who carried his sermon by night, from the inviolable place to worship, to the far distant place of worship. The elaborate story of this vision is expounded in muscadine masabi, page 580 to 520.

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Mohammed told how the angel Gabrielle took him on the winged animal Bora and showed him all the seven levels of heaven in one night. The next morning, we announced that he had seen Adam, Abraham, Moses, Jesus and others, his followers said, What a wonderful thing. But the fact is, it is not so wonderful when you know the truth. You see, the fact is, we have this story written for you.

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The records called the testament of Enoch, chapter one, verse four to 10 and chapter two, verse one, here's the exact words on the first day of the month, I was in my house and was resting on my couch, and slept. And when I was asleep, great distress came upon into my heart, and then appear to men, they were standing up my couch and called me by name, and I arose from my sleep, have courage, enough, do not fear, the eternal God sent this to me, thou shall today ascend with us into heaven, the age of stuck him on the wings and bore him up to the first heaven. As to the description of what he saw in the various levels of heaven, one can find an earlier record of the very same things in

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the details of testament of Abraham. Although Hamlet claimed he went to Jerusalem and worship at the temple of his or in his spirit, that temple Ladies and gentlemen, had been destroyed by Titus in 8070.

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Do you realize that the far distant place of worship referred to as Aqsa mosque was not built till the 12th century ladies and gentlemen. And in fact, Salahuddin made it amongst It was built as a church in a form of across two centuries before that. In other words, no such place existed at the time of the so called heavenly journey. Even the Dharma so appreciated by Muslims and others was not built till 8691. Savior. Ancient historians like me refer the Moroccan tell that Sapiens were the first religious people in the world. Their language was serious. Listen to this, they even consider Adam to have been a savior. Siva was said to be the same CBRE son of Kosh son of ham sunflower,

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mentioned in Genesis 10, six and seven. Their worship listen to this was monotheistic Islam, but of that they offered sacrifices and prayed seven times a day, Muslim made it into fine, they Sapiens tested 30 days a year. And that's exactly what we do in Ramadan, if we are Muslims, breaking the fast at sunset, much like Muslims do today.

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A friend of mine from Lucknow, India wrote a book called theology, Muslim and Christian. He tells us that some writers mistook them for followers of john the baptist, because they also beside all of this baptized new members into their group. He adds that along with God, the OSHA worship stars and a hierarchy of ancient contradictions in Islam, first contradiction of science. I read to you, it says in Arabic had that

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fine and having listened to this till when he is talking about accelerated rate reach the setting of the sun, he found it the sun setting in mid spring. Only the superstitions in the age of Mohammed, believe that the sun would ever set in Mr. Spring. Another absolute minister mystery to me is the mentioning of this Alexander the Great known in Arabic as the one with the two horns as a prophet in a book supposedly send it from God up in heaven. In surah

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verse 15, we see what are the costs We'll see. I want you to understand, it says here and he has cash into

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They earn

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firm anchors, not hills as your Koran translated into Arabic as Kenya Ababa Surah Al feature. Verse 74 states that the devil's the devil's mind you were driven away by stones talks about that. Shana Alia has a villa.

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To this day, one of the beauties of a pilgrim house and a house is to throw seven stones at the devil in Mena. Tell me about that friend, contradiction of Muhammad's mission. The Quran was and is an Arabic book for the Arab peoples, not for the word. This is substantiated by the fact that for 1300 years, no one translated the Quran into another language. In contrast, the Bible for the world has been translated in over 1800 languages. Surah Ibrahim, verse four states woman her son Nana, rasulillah inlab Melissa nicoma, he says, we and we have not sent any apostle except in the language of his people. Mohammed lived in a land where the days and nights are nearly equal all year long.

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during Ramadan, Muslims are too fast from when they can distinguish a white thread from a black one, till this can no longer be done in the evening. Inland to the far north. The sun does not set for many weeks, as I have seen it in Alaska during Ramadan, but seems only to make circles through the sky. Therefore, Ramadan cannot be observed. If Mohammed had been truly a prophet of God, His knowledge of geography would have been perfect. Incidentally, many Christians observed that Muslims spend more money on their food during Ramadan than any time of the year except weddings. It is not a fasting but a feasting man. Besides, what benefit is it to God Almighty for you to pass all day long

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and feast all night long contradiction of man's freedom. Muslims believe that whatever has or shall come to pass in this world, whether it be good or bad, proceeds entirely from the Divine Will and has been irrevocably fixed and recorded on a Muslims heart or for him. It is true that some passages of the Quran seem to attribute freedom command, while others teach a clear and distinct fatalism. The followers of Mohammed have no knowledge of God as a loving, caring, compassionate Heavenly Father, who has made us three moral beings from Surah, Titova weary say, not before, let us say that which Allah had decreed for us. Hold that you see the 911 illa magatama moulana.

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Another verse from Iran 27 sailo, Allah sent it home he will astray and guide it unto himself all who turn on the women's inferiority in Islam, polygamy on unlimited divorce, we are told in Surah An Nisa, verse three, when

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this is, I hope will not be misunderstood. But this is a verse in which it says, and if you can be fair

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to marry,

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married as many as four. But if he cannot marry just one, one is bound to ask. If Mohammed brought a greater and more perfect revelation, then why does men seem to regress, instead of progress with the moral standards of the Quran, Jesus Christ enunciated who made them at the beginning made them male and female. If God wanted men to have four wives, he should have made more than one he. Certainly, a Muslim husband may cast his wife adrift, without a Muslim husband may cast his wife adrift without giving a single reason or even a notice. The husband possesses absolute immediate question power of divorce. He can simply announced to his wife I divorced three times and she's gone. No privilege of

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a corresponding nature is reserved for the wife. Be quiet. I asked you to be quiet

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Are you

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In the Old Testament, the last book declares God despises divorce. In the New Testament, we are encouraged and warned, a man should not divorce his wife.

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I'm not talking about what they're doing and no but the Word says you'll be fine. There are too many verses from Surah Nisa 411 176, which then Ferranti of that mushroom and our plates there are large charges, you notice that concerning the provision for your children to the nail, the equivalent of the portion of two females.

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Ladies and gentlemen, here is an amazing admonition

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from Surah Nisa, verse 34. Men are in charge of women, because Allah has made the one

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of them to excel the other and because they spend over property for the support of women. So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret, that which Allah hath God. As for those from whom you fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and Scourge them.

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In contrast, God instructs Christians, husbands love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave Himself for their friend. I'd like to remind you, it was really an interesting thing. When Mohammed began while at Mecca, Mohammed realizing that he was surrounded by enemies, thought his followers toleration, he was simply a teacher commissioned to deliver a message even for a time at Medina. He was moderate. In Surah Al Baqarah, verse 256, we are told, there is no compulsion in religion, like karate, it was very different after Muhammad's power was established, when the Muslim armies when fought to attack the surrounding tribes and nations, they offer them three options is lamb to a

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beard, or the sword. Incidentally, is this not approved, then the spread of Islam was not for a religious and divine pole, but economic because of the three beard. You didn't have to be a Muslim. Put yourself in that position with these choices. What would you and your family choose? As a result, numerous Christians paid when their lives yet the numbers of those who took the easy way out, vastly outnumbered the monitors. History informs us that 12 months following Mohammed's death, were spent in bitter battles, led by heritage annually to bring back the Arab tribes who became apostate over 1 million Armenian Christians were savagely slaughtered by the Turkish Muslims at the

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beginning of the 20th century. Since that time, and Armenian secret organization assassinates, a Turkish leader or diplomat in some country, at the anniversary of the massacre in this world. This is their way of impressing on the minds of the world, the horror of that atrocity and their insistence on revenge. Such was not the past, it is still going on. In the present. Over 1 million people have been killed in the war between Iraq and Iran, which are two great Muslim countries. According to a 23 page report, filled with demand

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by university professors who shamima Moon and Suleiman Ali boldo. More than 1000 Dinka citizens, including women and children were massacred in the western Sudan

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in 1987, the Baptist record newspaper story of November 587 ads that dozens of pastors have been killed, and many churches destroyed since Islamic law was imposed in 83, which was officially declared as an Islamic Republic. Another report appear in the Baptist world Alliance newsletter of September 87, page two indicating that 130 church buildings and pastors homes of all Christian denominations in Kaduna state in Nigeria were destroyed by Muslim rioters sorority

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scapes the following instructions for dealing with Jews and Christians

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Whenever you meet up here, where are you Hi Ramona, Mahara mala, fight against such a those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the last day, according to tradition, even Abbess, an Isaiah, the prophet is said to have permitted the blood to be shed even of Him who abandons his religion and separates himself from the community. This practice continues with some Muslim countries. However, the backslider is to be given an opportunity to repent in the Western world, rather than have his bloodshed consult Surah Al haram M. Ron 83 to verse 19. Ladies and gentlemen, I would like to ask you have you noticed that one of the great things are people say is

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that the Prophet Mohammed was illiterate. That's why the Koran is so great. Many experts have the life of Muhammad believed he was, however, such a claim is not tenable or credible. That claim may be an attempt to magnify the work of Mohammed in producing the Quran. Though he was an illiterate, thus substantiating The so called miracle of the Quran. Here are my reasons for your listening pleasure. We are told that when the treaty with the Meccans was to be signed by Mohammed, they refused to acknowledge him as the apostle of Allah. relenting to their demands. He struck out that title and wrote with his hand instead of Mohammed

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Rasulullah, Mohammed, son of

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a second incident, supporting his literacy occurred and

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realizing that he was dying, he motioned Dr. Shea's favorite wife out of 15 of them, to bring him something upon which to write the name of his successor, but he was too weak to write, Sir, he served for many years as a trading Camel Caravan merchant, who had natural law than three Rs Reading, Writing arithmetic, traveling to the Masters a number of times for while visiting the St. Catherine's monastery at Mount Sinai in 1979, was shown by the monks, a personal letter said to be signed by Mohammed itself, guaranteeing the freedom of the monks and their monastery. If this is if this can be verified, it presents strong proof for Mohammed's literacy. Finally,

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I wish to seal the truth and provide you an unequivocal solid, sound and overwhelming proof that Mohammed was literate. Here it is, from the famous frequently memorize surah Allah

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this Merapi, kehlani Allah, Allah Allah, Allah,

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Allah, Allah, Allah, Allah, Allah, Allah, Allah, Allah May Allah

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one notice is that Allah told Mohammed

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and Mohammed read, theoretically speaking, if one can read, then can he not also right? Why would have much God also state who taught by the men by the pen? Allah May

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Allah Allah Allah, you realized that in the matter of which mystery that and in the seats at rabbit hole, face three to six, we are told, I wish she said that the angel Gabrielle ordered Mohammed to read three consecutive times. And he read, I cannot understand for the life of me why Muslims insist on calling the most famous Arab leader, fascinating, formidable leader of our Arab world and ignoramus and electorate. This is not proper, and I don't believe that and nothing supports that. Now, I'd like to ask you something.

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No one who studies the Quran in any language will fail to notice that there are monumental problems in its contents. Arabic speaking Muslims have made actually the Arabic translation to be sounding like the only word of god friend. Let me show you something. Do you realize this is the type of Arabic the Quran was written in? I challenge you not 1% of you can read it, the top and the bottom in the same must have you see Arabic did not have powers you could not tell whether it is to Riba or

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beside that it is claimed by Arab scholars that the literary style of the Quran is superior to other books in the Arabic language. Although this is not totally true. This claim no more proves the inspiration of the Quran than a man's string.

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demonstrates his wisdom or a woman's beauty hair virtual only by its teaching principles and conceptual content, can a book be judged rightly, not by its eloquence, elegance, poetic strength, or attractive cover. By reading the life of Mohammed and the history of the Quran, it is easy to conclude that the Quran reflects the life and character of Muhammad and the seventh century culture of Arabia.

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The Quran is not a unique literary masterpiece. There are numerous examples of other beautifully crafted poems, FX and scripture from the classical period, many much older than the Quran, very Veera of the area of India, was composed in Sanskrit between 1000 to 1500 years BC. It is larger than the Quran, similar in nature, and was written by several men. A blind boy by the name of Homer is responsible for the two most eloquent points in the Greek language, the Odyssey and Iliad, what should we say of the Gilgamesh epic? The code of Hammurabi, the Book of the Dead of the ancient Egyptians, the tablets of Ebola and other archaeological finds of ancient cultures, just because

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these materials are unique or eloquent, does not necessarily give them the status of divine inspiration. What about the fascinating writings of the prophets of Israel, which are creating also and pros as well of the highest order? embroil case, some of whose claims were among the famous Malacca suspended planes at Kaaba was one of the most eloquent of the ancient and upgrades before Mohammed in one of these points, which was not part of the Malika four verses and Pierre, which were borrowed and inserted by Mohammed into the Quran. They appear in Surah verse 129 31, and 46 I don't need to read in English or German Arabic, you can hear it, the sad one shall come on. That's the

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That is sad, chuckle common, first 29 in our cell nallah him

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for kanuka Shimon verse 46 way that malvani satin cannot be sad.

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And then very sad,

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sad and how are these verses? You can look at them if you get the book and find out the truth of the very same thing.

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I had a daughter, who once she heard the surah recited aloud, she immediately recognized their father's poem and demanded to know how her father's versus who had been dead for about 50 years appeared all of a sudden beginning the surah in Parramatta, Sadhu unshackle Kumar. And here it is definitely sad the one shocker common and omoyele case was before Mohammed Kane.

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And now to meet the challenge of the Quran in surah, 1790 and 1039 as mystery that said, I'd like to remind you that quakes before Mohammed, and after him, they just that Furthermore, his whole group of scholars in Jerusalem labored to achieve the fulfillment of a 16 year old project

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Bismillah Ar Rahman Rahim

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wait to see Donna who yochanan for Carlos de Ville Hawaii Milena arena, Moroccan vena cava said to me no bad workers come to

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me and Ronnie, where can I get

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for you who do not know Arabic. This is precisely taken from chapter 14 verse one through six of the gospel of john.

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Moreover, eloquent points expressed in beautiful Arabic various religious longings and other themes, menorah

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husana with himself now with his lawyer. Another example of alley even Evie has fallen in the man dunia Farah laserline Jr.

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Verily, this world is transitional in the world there is no permanence and barely this world as as a house with a spider has spun okay fear to manipulation

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okay fair okay fear to jump out of economy over the actual

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fact a recall was started as an SME man's man comprehend it is not the character of men. How much then does the character of the omnipotent take the preeminence, He it is Who produced all things as an inventor How then the one who renew his breath, comprehend him. There is no denying that the complexity of the Quranic scripture and Arabic must be explained by an expert of the Arabic language and culture before one can understand the contents. However, the same is true in Arabic poetry. While in secondary school in Nazareth. I studied and memorize some of the Malacca points to my utter astonishment, some time ago I found in my library while preparing for this debate, my own

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handwritten note book with coins and there comes imagine looking at a booklet You rose in class 40 years ago. Now we come to the exaggerations in the Quran, which are very obvious to anyone who studies in Solomon story, distorted and exaggerated. The Bible says that Solomon employed the people of pyre who were skilled workman to assist him in building the temple. The Quran says in Surah kill NBA that he want to add to that the devils and the shins actually did that for him. In surah baqarah the Quran says Rosie and his donkey died for 100 years. And we're then raised to like, we may accept the raising of a man. But when what possible use is there to raise up a donkey after he's been dead

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100 years. The Bible says that God gave the 10 commandments from Mount Sinai. It never was a covering over the children of Israel as the Quran states in Surah aarav 171 God turned humans into monkeys. So does the Quran say in Surah, Tillman? Verse 16, don't you know that they may read it to you?

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Are you ready?

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All right, shall I tell me of a worse case than failing

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for retribution with Allah, worse is the case of him, whom Allah has cursed him on whom his rat had fallen, whereas is he or who sought Allah have turned some to apes, and swine?

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Sounds like Mohammed may have believed in reincarnation, that the Quran bring any new Revelation. Revelation is the process by which God imparts to man truths which cannot be known natural. For example, since man was not created until the sixth day, God had to reveal to Moses details reflected in Genesis one through five. The uniqueness of the color of the Quran is also claimed, due to the information it presents regarding the past and the future. However, these claims cannot be substantiated. The teaching of the Quran

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concerning God, creation, prophets, and what have you were proclaimed long time before Mohammed. Mohammed brought nothing new. Perhaps some of this was new to his hearers who were ignorant Nananana percent of them could not read or write Mohammed revelation were in no way superior to the revelations given by earlier prophets, and neither did they unquestionably provide evidence of a fresh divine revelation. theological authorities demand that six conditions be fulfilled before accepting any suppose revelation can be accepted as true revelation. First, it must satisfy the yearning of the human spirit to obtain eternal happiness. Second, it must coincide with the

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conscience which is the moral law written in man's mind. It must reveal God's true attributes for

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it must confirm man's reasoning that God is one find. It must make very clear the way of selling

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Six, it must reveal God Himself in books through prophets and in person. Neither Mohammed nor the Quran fulfill all of the six requirements. The Quran may fulfill the fourth partially, and perhaps the six. That's about Oh, really? Now,

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Muslims believe that certain passages of the Quran or mansukh, or a novel by verses revealed later chronologically than themselves, which are called net. Ladies and gentlemen, I appeal to your intelligence, please. This is taught by Mohammed in Surah Baqarah verse 106, man

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listen, would you act? What would you act like civilized people?

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submit our lucea

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is that What say? Such of our revelation? As we aggregate or close to be forgotten? We bring in place one better have the light there are? No it's not that Allah is able to do things.

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What is called the sword verse in Surah, Titova analysis 120 verses which originally encouraged tolerance. What tradition has it that I should declared emphatically that the surah a sub ranks 61 and 200 verses during Mohammed's lifetime, when Mohammed actually died, and Othman standardize the Quran, the surah had only 72 verses. Incidentally, most of the Quran you have has different verse numbers. The number of verses are so numerous because there are 40 sutras which are played with this major problem of a so called inspiration. This concept is certainly very unacceptable, and foreign, all wise God. Compare such belief of Muslim theology with what Christ Jesus announced, according to

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Matthew 517, and 19, do not think that I came to destroy the law or the prophets I did not come to destroy but the fulfill whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven. But whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. The problem with

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another proof of this strange belief is recognized in that Mohammed communicated to his early followers in Mecca, that the Qibla the physical direction of their prayers was the word Kava. Then he abrogated that once he migrated to Medina, so as to please the predominant Jewish population. Now he emphasized to his followers, they must turn toward Jerusalem. Surprisingly enough. 17 months later, 17 months later, Allah changed his mind for the second time by commending Mohammed to look towards Mecca again, and no longer Jerusalem when Muslims pray. A man makes mistakes Ladies and gentlemen, and needs to correct them is not the case with God. God has infinite wisdom and cannot

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contradict himself, we must ask, does God have to Koran if the system of abrogation is valid? We ask again, what does one do with this emphatic declaration in Surah, Callahan said before when

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we can, and there is no changing or altering to the declaration or decisions of Muslims claim that the Quran was originally written on tablets preserved in heaven. This concept, however, is clearly borrowed from the Bible, because Exodus 3216 tells us now the tablets were the work of God and the writing was the writing of God engraved on the campus. Mohammed profess to have a revelation through Gabrielle when it should have his purpose many students believe students so that is

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Mohammed, messages came from heaven, were given to justify his political and moral conduct, as well as much of his religious precepts. battles were fought wholesale executions inflicted wives added and territories and next, under the pretext of the old Mike is command. Now I want to challenge you, mistakes in the Arabic of the Quran. You say you speaker, let's find out. Muslims believe that the Arabic Quran is the perfect, exact representation of Allah's word. That is why only the Arabic Koran is considered authoritative, and why so many Muslims who know no Arabic still feel a compulsion to memorize portions of the Quran in Arabic, although they cannot speak again communicate with you.

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However, the number of foreign words or phrases in the Quran leaving questioners wondering if God's language is deficient enough to need help from other languages. an auditor demonstrates his speaking abilities by borrowing expressions from other languages. How then do we have the opposite in a book which God Himself is supposed to have inspired in Arabic? foreign words, for all comes from the Egyptian language, Adam from the Akkadian language, but Sharon should have been the word or incense, which are Arabic words, Ibrahim comes from the Assyrian. A more accurate word will be abou Rahim from virgin we have Harun maruf Sarah Oh jen virtuos from Syria, taboos, tacos Maluku,

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from Hebrew, heavy Sakina Johanna brown from Greek in G which means beshara good news. That is not all. Here is the Arabic Quran with words from Egyptian Akkadian, Assyrian virgin, Syriac, Hebrew, Greek, seven languages. An Arabic reader is astounded also at the obvious mistakes in the following suris first Surah Al Baqarah 177 the word savarin should have been sovereign if you know Arabic, then again Surah killara 160 wacana who

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should have been in

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Surah kilesa 162 well Wolfie Meena Salah should have been warm up mana Salah then surah verse 69, a sabihin is the more correct Arabic than a Serbian then at Toba, Baden Salah Ashura, Iran should have been favored Salah Laura, the words

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are a gross error in Arabic, that grammatical structure demands good can let there be and there was not there shall be as in the Quran. Yes, sir. Going forward, Abraham's father is wrongly called Izod in the Quran at Surah Al Anam, verse 74. The Bible however, which is much earlier than the Quran named him correctly, Tara Abraham,

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summary of the Quranic errors concerning Abraham, Abraham didn't have two sons, he had a Genesis 25, not two wives, but three democracies, descendants in the valley of Mecca, but in Hebrew, which is called by his name in Arabic, to this day in a hurry that a friend of God according to Isaiah 41, eight and Genesis, Genesis 11 discloses that his home town was poor in Cambodia, not much. He wandered through Heron as Genesis 11 recounts not Arabian, he went to Canaan as God instructed him in Genesis not to make us very, there is no record that Abraham and Ishmael went to Arabia and built the Kaaba in Mecca, although he did spend several years in Egypt in Surah, Safar, those who set

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their ends, verse 112, William Abraham sacrifice of his son, but with son, the Bible states it was Isaiah, Genesis 20 to get the Quran intimates it was Ishmael. The Arabs have considered Abraham as the earliest Father through Hagar, Abraham's second wife, and Ishmael his firstborn son. As for Mr. deedat question, my roots go back to Jonathan, who is the father of most of the people of Saudi Arabia. However, historically, the first photo the Arabs is this one mentioned in Genesis 1025 is named baton in Arabic job done in English, the names of some of

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sons are reflected in geographical locations in Arabia, such as Shiva has a mode of fear Avila until this very day. A third strain came from Abraham's nephew locked, whose two daughters gave birth to the NEMA teens to the moabites. an ominous a four strain came from Jacob's twin brother, Asia, according to Genesis 36. Finally, and most people forget this trade, but to whom Abraham married after serious debt, gave birth to six more sons also became forefathers of more Arab tribes. Therefore, Abraham was only one out of five of the forefathers of our people, the savage struggle

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that's going on, between the children of Ishmael and the descendants of it has caused many to wonder, instead of the blessing of Abraham, there seems to read bloodshed. We read in Galatians 316, that it is, neither is nor Ishmael, who are to bless the world, but Messiah Jesus as Galatians

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316 affirms now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made, he does not say, and to the seeds, as of many, but as a one, and you see who is Christ, Ishmael.

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We see promises made to him. Listen to this fantastic truth. And Abraham said to God, Genesis 1718, all that Ishmael might live before you. Then God said, No, Sarah, your wife shall bear you a son, and you shall call his name Isaac, I will establish my covenant with him for an everlasting covenant and with his descendants after him. God's promises to Ishmael, one is mystified at the precise fulfillment of the four promises made to the atoms by God through a smell, even in our very day. And as for Ishmael, I've heard you, the whole I have blessed him will make him fruitful, will multiply an exceedingly he shall we get to a princess, and I will make him a great nation, but my covenant

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our will establish with Asia, first, with three fourths of the free world's oil reserves, the Arabs believe they are definitely blessed. Second, there are 174 millionaires as a seven as I said earlier, 14 million of them claim Christianity according to suomen Institute said he shall get well princess we have practiced it wise that many Arab nations today for our will make emigrate nation was fulfilled when the Muslim Empire became a reality from the seventh to the 12th century. Moses, listen to this. The Koran says,

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baby Moses was adopted by Pharaoh's wife.

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The Holy Bible says Moses was adopted by Pharaoh's daughter.

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The Koran pours, hey man, a friend of Pharaoh, the barber places Hey, man, 1000 years later, in the book of Esther, the Koran says God appeared to Moses in the fire in the valley of the Bible says it was a Mount Hood in Exodus 31. For the Quran says the golden calf worship by the Israelites in the wilderness was molded by a Samaritan. The Bible says Aaron made the golden calf x ministered to two through four. In fact, the term Samaritan was not used until 722 BC. Five rocker arms says the cow sacrifice by Moses was yellow. The Bible says it was read in numbers 19, one through two. These are just a few of the contradictions between the Koran, and they will testament

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marry the mother of Jesus. One of the most erroneous errors in the Quran is the reference to marry the mother of Jesus as the sister of Aaron. Here identity seems to be irrevocably confused. The investigation taken up in Surah Maryam 1928 says yeah, of the Haruna mechana boo ki embrun Serbian woman,

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marry, or are depicted as the mother of Jesus is 1570 years removed from the genuine Mary, as indicated from numbers 2659 the name of amraam amraams wife was the daughter of Levi who was born to leave Iran, Egypt and to Emraan she bought Aaron and Moses and their sister Miriam, the valiant effort of Muslims

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theologians to explain that the Koran is simply stating her lineage from the priestly family of Aaron and Emraan is totally unsatisfactory and non substantive. This mistaken Quranic identity is obvious. Historically, if you read Luke chapter one, you'll find who she was. Now the birth of Jesus, the Quranic account in Surah, Maryam 21 to 23 tells us that miraculous birth of Jesus took place under a palm tree. When you read the Gospel of Luke, Jesus was born in a stable, where do you find the story of the birth under a pine tree? Here it is, and I have the book.

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This book has it for you. And here are the words based on a from

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a third from a second century AD apocryphal fable, now on the third day, after she married, was waited in the desert by the heat and asked Joseph to rest for a little while under the shade of a palm tree, then marry look it up and seeing its branches laden with fruit. They said, our desire if it were possible, to have some fruit, just said the child Jesus looked up from below with a cheerful smile and sick to the pantry, sent down some fruit immediately that rebate itself toward her and so they ate. This is from a fable.

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Now, fables about Jesus, two of the most far fetched Ladies and gentlemen, and fantasy film fable ever attributed to Jesus are recorded in the Quran. Surah Miriam says verse 29, to 30 parashara la

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Harlow. kafer. lueken limo mechanicville Samia color in nampula. Nikita was Jada needed. Then she pointed to him. They said, How can we talk to one that is Jesus who is in the cradle a young boy, he spent, though I am the slave of Allah. He had given me the Scripture and had appointed me a prophet. The first gospel of the infancy of Jesus Christ, which is a second century Arabic apocryphal fable from Egypt is the source for this Quranic fable. chapter one, verse two and three, Jesus speak, even when he was in the cradle, and said to his mother, Mary, I am Jesus, the Son of God, that word which thou bring forth, according to the creation of the angel. Next, we look into the tale that Jesus

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breathed life, Jesus breathed life into the burdens of clay, according to sobre la Emraan. Jesus breathed life into that verse made of clay. Incidentally, if that is true, only God can create. So what Jesus what was Jesus, the source for this Quranic fiction is found in the earlier Thomas's gospel of the infancy of Jesus Christ, an apocryphal table from the second century. Then he took from the back of the stream some soft clay, and formed out of 812 sparrows, then Jesus slapping together, the palms of his hand, hold the sparrows, and said to them, go fly away. Neither of the above quotations are recognized by biblical scholars, historians or theologian as authentic events

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in the life of Christ. Now ladies and gentlemen, listen, please, the bar on the veranda, although anyone who reads the Quran, files instructions about God, morality, worship, God and the lives of some prophets, one thing emerges as a missing ingredient. This ingredient, ladies and gentlemen, brothers and sisters, fellow human beings is how can Amen. Please go. How can a man be justified on my right with God Almighty. The Koran encourages personal glory. God is presented as an intelligent giant with a will and hello to which man must be without any example of Divine Love, such as Calvary, God is like a general marching with a sword to subdue the world and force men to become his

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slave rather than his sons. A Muslim is told to declare the kalama or a Shahada pray five times a day fast one

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Here, give arms go to Mecca, these will open the gates of paradise for him. Better still, as one leader declared last year, ill and be killed for Allah is a declaration for each stage that is the highest honor for a Muslim, I questioned the credibility of such a statement sooner or later, when we get tired of such a life or get too old for even if we agree that keeping the five pillars of Islam is good and honorable, tell me how or who is going to pay for your sins. For example, here is a man who owes you 100,000 British pounds, he struggles to pay you back, but all he can pay is 10,000. Then who is going to pay the rest? Again, add brakes the speed limit. The policeman stopped

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Sir, she saw Bingley tells him I'm sorry, I didn't know the speed limit on on, he will certainly sympathize with her. But she broke the law. Again, this man robbed, raped, then murdered your daughter. He is captured in prison brought to trial. He weeks and please, I made a mistake. I've done wrong, forgive me.

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When you let him go free. God's Holy Bible states, the soul who sins it shall die is he killed? 84. Therefore we ask Who will pay for our sins? You say? why our sins? Because God tells us all have seen how? By being bored from an E the first center is by choice by inclination by phone by site by D.

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Have you ever told a lie?

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Ladies and gentlemen, have you ever told a lie? If you have raise your hand please?

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If you don't,

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if you don't,

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you want to be in heaven. That's the only perfect people in the world.

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in short, the dead, the dead, the dead has to be covered. That breaker of the law has to be penalized. The criminal has to be condemned to death, judges and magistrates see to them, conversely, that justice and holiness of God demands payment for our sins. our good works, unlike some cracks in the sight of God Almighty problem must be resolved my friend. If not, then mankind, according to Islam, is accepting the seeking of man's glory through good works, rather than obeying the will of God Almighty by accepting His Atonement, a free gift of salvation. How do you deal with a radical evil of the heart? Where can you find justification, holiness, salvation, assurance of

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eternal life, man's need is not to know what is right and wrong, but we know that it is for the power of the Holy Spirit that can make that a reality. Please remember, justification is not found in religion is not found in the can is not found in Bangladesh. It is not as

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it is found only in Christ Jesus.

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It is found in a person

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whose name is Jesus the Christ. He loves you, and he gave his life to set you free. I conclude. I conclude you Yours

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is the word of God. All right.

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Ladies and gentlemen.

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One more minutes, run through one more minute and Andrew.

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Jesus said,

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Jesus said, Don't throw your pearls before pigs.

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Can if you understand what it means I want you to understand Yes, the more on is the word of God.

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I am glad you're happy. The Koran is the word of God. It

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only when it gets precisely when it precisely, completely, absolutely agrees with the Word of God the Holy Bible theologically, doctrinally and linguistically only

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Please have your attention.

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Ladies and gentlemen, may I please have your attention.

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Now they appears to have been some confusion amongst some of you with regard to time, as demonstrated by your gesticulating to your watchers. Dr. Roche actually presented his rebuttal 15 minutes and the router is unresponsive in five minutes. The dealer will in due course. Presented rebuttals, 15 minutes.

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He had 75 minutes.

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She didn't show one example.

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75% of this book is copied in that and they could not show as one example. You see, do you know what is copy? What is to clip what is to plagiarize stealing somebody else's literature?

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Look, the Christians and the Jews have been angered.

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I do not think it deserves clapping because none of you is so intelligent to know all the answers because you would be God.

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Dr. Shara said Muhammad was not

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he was illiterate man. And he lied again about the history of Islam that Muhammad changed the words to Muhammad not the lives of Muhammad Rasulullah what the Holy Prophet Muhammad did was, he is instructing the scribes when the Quraysh the pagans, the mushriks when they objected to Muhammad Rasul Allah Muhammad Sallallahu Sallam he told the scribe cut off Mohammed Rasulullah. So the disciple in love and feeling they said, No, we can cut it off with our own hands. We can cut it off, we can say that Muhammad is not Rasulullah. So know what to do. The treaty was being jeopardized. So the Holy Prophet is asking where are these words? Muhammad Rasul Allah. So he saw the word Rasul

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Allah and he took the pen and he marked it off. That is what he did. He didn't put Muhammad Abdullah

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You see, what we need for things like this discussions like this we need more time. We need point by point of discussion.

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In 75 minutes, you throw 150 red herrings, a second cach, cach, cach, cach, cach, cach is this.

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Ladies and gentlemen, I now call the parliament

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to present your rebuttal for 15 minutes.

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Mr. Chairman,

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Mr. Chairman, and my dear brothers and sisters.

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You can sense the difficulty that is ahead of me

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in 75 units,

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Dr. Sharon, she was able to draw before us 150, red herrings,

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catch them.

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At the speed you realize

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I'm an older man of 17. And reading at a speed of 100 miles an hour.

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Makes it very, very difficult.

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You appreciate which is very difficult for anybody.

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you know, towards the end, she made some charge,

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about the prophet of Islam

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that he didn't know

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the difference between Maria

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the mother of Jesus and Maria

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The system

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therefore, Dr. Shadows concluded that the Quran is not the word of God that says his vision is logic.

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Now when the Muslim explained

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that this is a respectful way of talking,

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as the Quran says,

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reading those verses from the beginning

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for us to be here v karma Ha.

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This is Surah 19 Maria Edlin she brought the beam to her people carrying arms.

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They said,

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Maria, CO, maybe truly an amazing thing has brought

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elegy insinuating that how is it that you brought this child into the world without a husband

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insinuating that the child is illegitimate?

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What is she to do?

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Can she tell them as you know, I have invoices and I carry the baby for nine months and now I delivered it in about a year

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to listen to her know. So they say tabula

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rasa mama can

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see your father was not a man of evil, no die mother woman unchanged. You coming from such a noble family of the priests of the bunnies. Because Musa and his salon in a salon with

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Emma leadership was a family tradition among the Jews. And as such, you coming from a noble ancestry of being in the family.

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And your mother was a good man, your mother was a gorgeous woman.

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What is she to do? She points to the baby. Ask him because she knew that this is not for her Shara LA, but she pointed to the baby and the baby. Jesus spoke from his mother's arms. But that chart still remains that the prophet of Islam Muhammad didn't know the difference between this Marian the mother of Jesus and that Maria, mother, sister.

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The difference is, as the doctor said, 1300 and some odd years.

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most reasonable explanation used by the Muslim, the Christian nods his head, he says no. Muhammad didn't know the difference.

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Muhammad didn't know the difference. So this can be the Word of God.

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I said you see the answer to your problem is in

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the Bible,

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the Bible, where is it? It is in the first book of the New Testament. First Book, chapter one, verse one, you'll never forget 1113 aces in a game. You'll never forget.

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What does it say?

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You asked me What does it say?

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I tell you what it says. It says, You remember I showed you the genealogy? Yes. The first verse. It says, This is the genealogy of Jesus Christ. The son of Abraham, the son of David asked him asked him, is that what it says? Jesus is the son of Abraham. He is the son of David.

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Then in the Gospel of St. Louis in the genealogy, he is the son of

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Then in the book of Mark, he is the Son of God.

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He is the son of Abraham with his father. He is the son of David. David is his father. He is the son of Joseph. Joseph is his father. He is the Son of God. God is his father, a man who's got four fathers in your language, sir, in America, what do you call it?

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You can respond

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back. So what does it mean? So, planning, as you see is the same. You know, Jesus told you he won't. He's a judge not that he

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Do not judge for with what judgment ye judge you should be judged.

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Why is he is that the

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MCs not the people that own I suppose remove the beam from your own

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work whoops, whoops, whoops I

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have an Arabic, Arabic, but his knowledge of Arabic you get the tape and you will find that he has been speaking also to the people, more than twice. I will give you the examples. At the first meeting in the Royal Albert Hall. Dr. Shadows come forward at question time, and he was fortunately being videotaped. He comes there and he tells his asking, it says Mr. deedat you Muslims, you believe that Jesus Christ, you see this is a lie, said yes. But it's what can you say about the Quran? The Quran says it is ridiculous Arabic,

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la Yama or Yamamoto

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which means and the mistranslation, if you remember, when you see the mistranslated, for which he has not apologized, yet

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the mistranslated he said, therefore Jesus was born, he died and he rose again. So pieces on me the day that I was born, the day that I died and the day to live again. He stressed as an adult,

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it was inexcusable. Knowing Arabic, English translated the word

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Yamamoto as die when it is in the future tense, the day that I die not died. The mistranslated

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if that was deliberate is devilish, if it is inexcusable, then again at the second debate, he goes on to tell his audience in the Royal Albert Hall that the Trinity is in the Quran 113 times and the coast Bismillah R Rahman r Rahim.

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We see the Trinity 113 times in the Quran like the Bible says Bismillah R. Rahman r Rahim

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Trinity, the Trinity as an error in excusable, if he's deliberately doing it is diminished. Look, his knowledge of Arabic for

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the same sickness is coming again and again. With which 115 minutes which one you're gonna catch. Now.

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He lied. In the previous meeting, he said. And I quoted if you remember, what I was quoting, I said, you quoted this, what you said is, let me challenge you 75% of the wonderful Qur'an in my wonderful language of Arabic is from the Bible. This is let me challenge you,

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or the audience, or let me challenge you.

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75% of the wonderful people are in my wonderful Arabic is from the Bible. You remember that? And he said, he said, if you can show it, you now have your patience. He had 75 minutes.

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She didn't show one example.

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75% of this book is copied in that and he could not show that as one example. You see, do you know what is copying? What is? What is to plagiarize stealing somebody else's literature?

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Look, the Christians in the Jews have been edited. They have been added. They have

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Judaism in the Koran by Abraham cash, few 100 pages. Then the sources of Islam. The source of the Quran by Reverend St. Clair

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books books, they have written more than 60,000 books against Islam from 1800 to 1950. More than 16,000 books.

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say they behave like innocent little children, little babies like cherubims

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they have written more than 60,000 among

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Sources of Islam source of the Quran Reverend St. Clair

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river and St. He wrote the book.

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And he's giving versus versus giving versus versus versus.

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But this was originally written in Farsi portion

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in the Persian language. So, Reverend,

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so William, where

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he translates this into English

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and he writes a preface.

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He writes a preface to his translation. And he says,

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It is strange, it is strange. It's all it's unusual.

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It's extraordinary. Isn't it strange that through the Jewish and Christian scriptures are spoken of throughout the Quran, with the utmost devotion.

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The Quran speaks about the Jewish and Christian scriptures the Torah

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with utmost devotion.

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Only one passage, only one passage is quoted from them. That's all only one, though. The Quran is speaking about the 75% is copy says 73 quarter is copied from the Bible. Yet this great man Sir William was a scholar. He says, Only one passage is quoted from them, mainly me quotes

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mainly me quotes, the meek shall inherit the

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petition. Now,

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look for it. There isn't such a verse in the Quran. The mirrors is what

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it means.

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says that we had given to

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this message that to my righteous servant, my righteous servant will inherit the earth. That is what the Quran says. But this condition the meek shall inherit the earth. You find that in Matthew chapter five, verse five, where Jesus says, the meek shall inherit the earth.

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Now you see that in the Bible that our doctor has given me there are cross references and it tells you that this quotation is from Psalms, Chapter 37, verse 11.

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That quotation is from Psalms, Jesus says, Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth. But when you look for it, you find it in Psalms Chapter 37, verse 11, word for word.

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But Jesus didn't give the credit.

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To them, he said, Look, I got this from the songs, Muhammad is meant to say that this is, is actually quoting This is written is giving you credit. It is there, and you find that this is what the Quran says. Jesus Christ is actually plagiarizing. If he didn't mention it, if he didn't give credit, he is plagiarizing. He's stealing from somebody else's writing, not Muhammad. So

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you see, what is the copy? What is the human show us? I have the Arabic Bible

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in case he hasn't got it, and

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what he must show here, that in the Arabic Bible, Jesus says, I am a mother of one.

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In the Quran, Muhammad says

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in the Bible, Jesus says that he

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also says, for example, that he received this in the past.

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This is what is called copy. This is what is called clipping. This is what is called plagiarism so far in the 75, long minutes, unbearable. minutes, he has not yet given as a single

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75% in the Bible, the Bible is Yes sir.

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Easy for you. And the Arabic Quran is also making it easy for you. Thank you, Mr. Gaeta.

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There appears to have been a little confusion. Dr. Ernest Roche was of the opinion that he will be quoted additional time for his rebuttal.

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He appears to have

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Been laboring under the mistaken belief that the turn allocated and in fact utilized by him Initially, the 90 minutes did not include the 15 minutes for the rebuttal in view of this, both the sides have agreed that he will be now allocated 15 minutes for his rebuttal. After which, please, ladies and gentlemen, please repeat complete. Afterwards Mr. Othman will be given another 15 minutes to continue his rebuttal.

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Please bear in mind that this meeting has to be conducted failing, and that means you're participating in a fair manner as well. Please let both speakers express their views and opinions. You could raise objections after they have spoken, not worthy of speaking

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for 15 minutes.

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Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And I'm sorry to say that I understood I was coming for rebuttal. I didn't realize I've taken the time.

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How can a young man cleanses way by taking heat, according to your word, verse 11, your word I have hidden in my heart, that I may not sinned against you. Verse 133, direct my steps by your word, and let no iniquity have dominion over me. Second Timothy 316, to 17. All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work, Romans 15. For, for whatever things were written before were written for our learning, that we through the patience and comfort of the Scriptures might have hope. There are no less than 300 prophecies that

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were fulfilled in the time and lifetime of our Lord Jesus Christ.

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In the Quran, we are told an argue not with the People of the Scripture, unless it be in a way that is better, we are also told and if thou Muhammad, are in doubt concerning that which we reveal onto the then ask or inquire if you please, those who read the Scripture. That was before they. Then we read in Surah. Tillman from Pickthall interestingly enough, it's verse 44. In alleys, it's 47. And this one it says, as wise as who revealed the law to Moses, Barney, it was we who revealed the law to Moses, there in was guidance and light, by its standard have been judged the Jews by the prophet who love who loved Allah, Allah, when by the rabbi's and the doctors of the law for to them was

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interested, the protection of a large box called Allah. Now, Mr. deedat.

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As to the questions concerning these matters, of figures and the lives of people, let me first mentioned to you that I'm amazed that a man of your caliber, does not realize that in Matthew, we have the lineage of Jesus from the side of Joseph is adopted father, and you know, as well as I do, 66 fathers were not the real fathers. It was very simple. There was grave importance in those days, and today, placed on one's ability to prove his lineage, because the inheritance depended on that. Therefore, Jesus was connected to the royal line of David from the tribe of Judah through Joseph, Dr. Lu, followed another line from Mary, because they were not brother and sister. And as you will

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know, King Hussein of Jordan traces his lineage to the hashemites and therefore, to that of Mohammed himself, because of the importance involved, accuracy, mystery, that must be the idea. As for the other matters that you mentioned, such as Samson.

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First of all, ladies and gentlemen, no one has the right to make fun of the Word of God because He is playing with fire. Secondly, I have noticed ever since I met Mr. deedat, that he has a problem with the biblical miracles. Why? It appears to me that his Allah is too small for such demonstrations of the Almighty. Surely, one can say Allahu Akbar all day and all night.

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But I would rather say Allahu Akbar, God is the greatest and therefore, he is capable of providing his anointed servants with incredible powers to do his bidding. Listen to this mess Rudy in Marathi volume for page 376 tells us that at the Battle of Seraphin Ali with his own hand, no weapon, no stick, no Giovanna vaness had killed 525 men in one day. Now I wonder if this story is more believable than Samson killing 1000 men with a large job going over donkey. Samson even killed more people.

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Samson even killed more people without a weapon in his hand. If you know the Bible, he simply prayed then push the pillars of the heathens temple apart by his powerful arms, causing the roof to crumble over the 1000s who were gathered there he killed more without a weapon than with one.

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As to the foxes mystery that apparently you haven't studied about foxes? Do you know that their favorite food is lamb and chicken? Could not Samson have placed the foxes favorite food and a fenced area so as to lure them into it? A common saying in most languages were foxes lips steaks, as sly as a fox. Why? Because my dear friends, when captured a fox plays

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till he is left alone. Then he takes up. Samson could have tied their tails while they were playing dead. Then with a rope tied the torch between them. What the hilarious side It must have been to see those creatures running throughout the fields where the flaming torch tied to the tails and setting fire to his enemies corn. After all, Samson, my friends was a practical joker like I'm sure some of you with a good sense of humor, and very clever.

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I'd like to ask you, please. The Koran states, God inspired David churidars abou,

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let me ask you a question. Do you know that there are 150 songs which God inspired 50 are anonymous, we do not know who wrote them humanly speaking. 12 by asef 10, by the sounds of Cora, two by Solomon, one by Moses, and the balance of the 150 by David, therefore, the Quran is not correct. In claiming David wrote the Bible, we also must ask you, what about the Injeel? You say it was given to Jesus only Galatians 379 declares, therefore know that only those who are of faith are sons of Abraham. And the scripture foreseeing that God would justify the nation's by faith, preaching the gospel to Abraham beforehand, did you get that same in you all the nations shall be blessed. So then

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those who are a faith are blessed with believing Abraham. God warns My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge, because you have rejected knowledge, I will also reject you, Hosea four, six, Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God, for all Muslims, is that they may be saved. For I bear them witness that they have real zeal for God, but not according to knowledge for the being ignorant of God's righteousness, and seeking to establish their own righteousness have not submitted to the righteousness of God. For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes for Moses writes about the righteousness which is over the law, the man who does those

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things shall live by them, by the righteousness of faith speaks in this way, do not say in your heart, who will ascend into heaven, that is to bring Christ down from heaven, on who will descend into the abyss, that is to bring Christ up from the dead. But what does it say? The word is near you, even in your mouth, and in your heart. That is the word of faith which we preach that if you confess with your mouth, the Lord Jesus, and believe in your heart, that God has raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes through righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made to salvation. So then, Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God, for

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the grace of God that brings salvation has appear Toleman, teaching that denying ungodliness and worldly loss, we should live soberly.

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righteously and godly in the present age, looking for the blessing, hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ, who gave himself for us that he might redeem us from every lowly steam and purify for himself his own special people, zealous for God, and for good works. Ladies and gentlemen, these are not my words. These are from Hosea chapter four, verse six, from Romans 10, one through 10 and 17. And from Titus 211 to 14, how much time do I have? About three minutes? All right. Old Testament was concluded 1000 years before the Quran, the New Testament was concluded by over 500 years before the Quran. Therefore, authenticity stands firmly with the Holy

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Bible, not the Quran, from a scientific and archaeological viewpoint. Therefore, whenever the Quran does not agree with the Holy Bible, one must conclude scientifically speaking that the Quran is inaccurate and wrong and not the Bible. I will urge you, I will urge you to study the Bible and know where the Quran came from, instead of getting emotional.

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Thank you.

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Ladies and gentlemen, your attention please.

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There are a few announcements before I call, Mr. de.to present his rebuttal, ladies and gentlemen, they will be a sequel to this debate or symposium at this venue tomorrow at 6:30pm.

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There was a newspaper report which expressed negative sentiments about Dr. Anita Sharon, having to come all the way from America to engage in the symposium or debate her apparently there were some objections raised by certain theologians, local theologians, they felt that they are competently, they sufficiently competent themselves to actually engage in a debate or symposium with Mr. Obama did out as a result of which the organizers have decided to actually record these people and opportunity of presenting themselves tomorrow at 6:30pm and participating in a debate or symposium with him, but should no one present himself, then Mr. Murat will present a lecture and will

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entertain questions from the floor, not the procedure, which we apply today questions having to be written and then read out to you, but rather you will be accorded the opportunity of actually directing questions at the speaker from a microphone which will be presented at the foot of the stage. So do not forget tomorrow at 6:30pm. There will be a sequel to this debate or symposium. And I'll call upon Mr. t.to. Present further about 15 minutes.

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Mr. Chairman in

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the Quran, and the Bible had been both begging Dr. Sharon, to find those three quarters 75% of this was puppets and God

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will remain begging.

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Dr. Sharon began

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at the beginning of this rebuttal office

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with a verse from the Bible

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to Timothy 316.

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He quoted,

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he said All scripture is given by inspiration,

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and is profitable for doctrine, reproof, corrections, and instructions and righteousness

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is a beautiful test.

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Which from that he concludes that all scripture meaning the Bible is based on these four tests. If it is a word of God, it must prove one of these four points. It must either be your doctrine, your teaching,

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anything if it is from God, it must serve some purpose is not for your entertainment.

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It must be your doctrine. reproof, you do certain things wrong, you'll be punished. correction, not like this, but like that, and encouraging you to good deeds, instructions and to righteousness beauty.

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Actually, Paul was talking to Timothy about the previous verses in verse 15. Talking about the Old Testament. He was not talking about Matthew

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Luke and john,

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and Peter and James and Jude.

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But however, if the Christian wants to lump it all together, so lump it. Now.

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You see, I quoted one brief verse about Samson. Samson goes to casa, and he sees a harlot, and he goes into her.

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This is supposed to be in the Word of God. Now, under the test that is given to us, by Dr. Suresh, where does it fit in?

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Does it is that your doctrine?

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That when you go someplace and you see a prostitute, you go in into her, your doctrine? Is that your teaching? reproof? Was there any reproof given by God Almighty say, I'll punish you. I'll put you in *. Nothing.

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correction is no, you mustn't do this, but you must marry her. And then you can quit. What? What instruction, nothing at all. So I'm asking the doctor, or any Christian at any time, please, please read the Bible. With this critical eye. There are things that are in the Bible, you can't fit in any way. Genesis, chapter 38, you read about Judah, the father of the Jewish race.

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He has three sons. And he gets the eldest son married, and he does something that God didn't like. So God, children, Genesis, chapter 38, as the Christian, where does it fit in?

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He says, reproof, which is correct. God told him not to do certain thing, and he did it. So God killed it. So now Judah tells his second son, oh, man, you go in and be your brother's wife, according to a Jewish custom and bigger child by her. So the name of the disease might carry on

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this guy on and he goes on to his brother's wife, trying to fulfill his duty, but at the critical moment,

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the jealousy enters his heart is the look, the seed is mine, but the name will be my brother's. So he spills it on the ground. I'm reading the Bible, he spilled it on the ground. So what killed him also?

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Where does that fit in? reproof. So look, this is your custom, you're supposed to do certain duty you perform. You don't got choose you also. Now the old man sense is not law.

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The old man sends his daughter in law back to a father's house, telling her that the next time the third fellow is grown up, I will call you, but conveniently he forgets conveniently.

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So the woman wants to take revenge. So she gets a news that her father in law is going to tell him that I'm reading the book of Genesis, chapter 38. He's going to timnit to share a sheep. So she goes and says, By the way, by the wayside, and covers a face, the old man passing by, he sees this woman and his game, his game. So he comes to her and reading the Holy Bible. He says, allow me to come in unto thee what Samsung did in Gaza, same thing, let me do to you.

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So she says, I'm reading the Holy Bible. What will that give me?

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So he said, I'll give you a kid from the floor. Look, there are Christians here. You have your Bibles with you. If I'm misquoting anything, please take me up a question time.

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He said, I'll give you a kid, a good kid from the floor.

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So she says what guarantee that they will give it so what guarantee Do you want is your signature ring and your patient and your staff so the old man gave it to her and he cohabited with his daughter in law by the roadside and made a pregnant twins twins straightaway, one eight pins.

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And these twins

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are forest and Sarah, who are the great grandfather's of Jesus Christ, according to the genealogy. Children of * are the great grandfather's of Jesus. I'm asking in this test that with a beautiful test, to Timothy 316, doctrine, reproof, correction, and instruction and righteousness. I'm asking, Where does this fit in? into the book of God tell me

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and if you can't fit in any way, then it fits into *. *.

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You see, he had a small joke against the Muslims about polygamy. The cc system allows Islam allows you to marry for

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he didn't go to divorce. Currently, he was saying that Anissa was three or something to the effect.

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The Quran says marry women of your choice by twos and threes and fours. But if you cannot do justice between them marry only one

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The only religious book

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I'm saying the only religious book on the face of the earth

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which has this expression, married only one is the Quran. There is no other.

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And this is a solution to your problem. He has settled down in america he is married a beautiful young lady and American woman. Congratulations. But now, wait, wait, wait.

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The American statistics they tell us there are 7.8 million more women than men in America. That's almost 8 million more women in your country. Sir. The length of your domiciled 8 million woman who can't get husbands is every woman every man in america got married. There still the 8 million women who can't get husbands. I'm asking in this book of God that you are boasting about what is the solution to your problem.

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Jimmy Swaggart

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if you get the tape the tape is available. Jimmy Swaggart Anisa rush the tape is available you can get it before you go there a *.

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Jimmy Swaggart, if you see this debate at the outset, he is also having a laugh at our expense. He says, you know, Mr. D, that he says, you know, we had a chat in the waiting room and Mr. D that says that the Muslim can have four wives. Tulum allows four wives.

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He's just corrected me set up to four.

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I said, Well, Mr. De dot Christianity only allows us one, so I had to get the best on the first shot. So he said, But you see, Christianity allows us only one. And I had to choose the best.

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Get the tape. Get the tape. He said I had to choose the best.

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You know, the best wasn't good enough.

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This all these study evangelists or one by one. They're all falling. Reverend mark.

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Marvin Garmin

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evangelist, you know televangelists on television. tantalizing millions. He was probably the prostitute.

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Jim Becker, Jim Bakker

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with Jessica hands, not a prostitute.

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Jimmy Swaggart average of two trips a month to the prostitute for the satisfaction.

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said you laugh at us. Your food is on you.

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You Americans you have a problem. You British. You have a problem. You French you have a problem. You Germans you have a problem. And to these there are no solutions in your book. No solution. Islam gives an answer to your problem.

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Divorce, Divorce, Divorce, but other services think about divorce. You know how the Muslims look. When you

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malpractice when you do something against your own teaching, you are culpable.

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No doubt the general Muslim community seems to have but that idea that when you want to divorce your wife, you just have to have faith Allah, Allah, Allah, but he's supposed to have known the Quran. There is a chapter in the Quran the whole chapter is called surah Allah, meaning chapter divorce.

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You must have read it surah Allah, Allah

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at the outset, brother Sharon, she said he has been studying the Quran for two years now. Two years.

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See what the Quran says Please brother and then point the finger at the Quran. So look, this Quranic teaching is not right. It's not feasible is unreasonable. Talk about the Quran.

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Don't talk about the Muslims. As much as we have bad Muslims, you have bad Christians.

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They also quoted the Quranic verse, like 18.

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Which means there is no compulsion in religion.

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comparison is worthless. At the point of the gun or the knife, you force somebody to say, hit the Shahada, the kalama, the creed of Islam, and the man is forced to read, what is it worth?

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There is no compulsion in religion, but the insinuation is that the Muslims were being compassionate. I said, Look, my brother, suppose you are a proof that the Muslims didn't use any compassion for 1400 years.

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For 1400 years, you and your other Christians will say number 14 million, they live in our midst. In Egypt, the Muslims have been the Overlord of the country for 1400 years, for a few years, the French thing for a few years the British game, but overall for 1400 years, the Muslim has been ruling that land and yet, and yet

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today, you can boast there are 10 million Coptic Christians in Egypt.

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If there was compassion of any kind, they would not have been a single Christian left in the country.

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The Muslims ruled Spain for 800 years.

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800 years.

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We, because we failed to deliver the message, we were kicked out.

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We were kicked out shame on us. We didn't fulfill our obligations. But if they had used any type of force, even economic force for 800 years, they would not have been a single Christian left in the country.

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We Muslims, we ruled India for 1000 years. But after 1000 years of Muslim rule, eventually when partition takes place, the Muslim gets one quarter, the Hindu quarter. Why? Because we didn't do the job. We didn't use any compulsion.

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And this Muslim army went to Indonesia. Which Muslim army went to Nigeria, which Muslim army conquered the east coast of Africa, which Muslim army.

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Today, the British Muslim, the British, and the American is coming towards Islam. What song What song? What sort is

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the sort of the intellect.

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George Bernard Shaw, he said, if any religion has a chance of conquering England, may Europe within the next 100 years so that religion is Islam.

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Bernard Shaw had the foresight to see

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but we Muslims. We have failed Islam. Allah we have failed. We have failed. We haven't made a statute. We believe we still believe but we have not made a statue. This is our problem. The destiny is ours what light is our Allah says we use a hero who Allah.

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He has given you the a way of life that is the master super overcome and supersede them all bulldoze them all, whether it be Hinduism, Buddhism, Christianity, Islam, communism, Judaism.

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So I'm asking what sort

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Thomas Carlyle, Thomas Thomas Carlyle, Thomas Carlyle, in 1800 40, he delivered a series of lectures here in the UK. In England, Thomas Carlyle, one of the greatest things of the past century, Thomas Carlyle.

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And he says, the sword, the sword is the sword indeed. But where will you get your sword? Is it every new opinion at this beginning is precisely in the minority of one in one man's head alone, there it goes as yet that he takes a sword and try to propagate with that will do little for him. So at first, you must get your sword and how do you get your sword through the intellect through reasoning?

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Do we last I believe that

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Allah says invite all to the ways of the Lord with wisdom, the sword of the intellect of wisdom will not result in person at the end with beautiful preaching.

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And reason with them in the ways that our best and most gracious, this is the song.

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This is the last point that I can handle in the time given to me.

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Dr. Chavez said Muhammad was not in me. He was a liquid man. And he lied again about the history of Islam, that who they are Mohammed changed the words to Muhammad Abdullah, Muhammad Rasul Allah, what the Holy Prophet Muhammad did was, he is instructing the scribes when the Quraysh the pagans, the mushriks, when you objected to Muhammad Rasulullah Muhammad Sallallahu Sallam he told us, that of Muhammad Rasool Allah, so the disciple in love and feeling they said no, we can cut it off with our own hands, we can cut it off we can say that Muhammad is not Rasulullah. So not what to do, the treaty was being jeopardized. So the Holy Prophet is asking where are these words Muhammad Rasul

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Allah. So the saw the word Rasul Allah and he took the pen and the market off that is what he did. He did he put Muhammad Abdullah.

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You see, what we need for things like this discussions like this, we need more time. We need point by point of discussion.

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In 75 minutes, you throw 150, red herrings, and second cach cach. cach, cach, cach cach is this.

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I'm going to select papers from this basket, which have questions on them. And when you read some of the questions, it's going to be impossible to go through all the questions.

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So the students are collecting questions.

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I don't think we're able to go through those questions. So it's really pointless. First question.

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to Dr. Sharon.

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Jesus forgave the woman caught in the act of adultery.

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Reference john 480, saying, Go and sin no more. If Jesus was part of

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the Triune God,

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when Adam and Eve disobeyed him and the Holy Ghost in Why did Jesus not intervene, being the embodiment of love and forgive Adam and Eve and ascended saying Go and sin no more?

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Question, I would simply say this, the background of the story is number one, the Jews had developed, unfortunately, two laws, one for the women and one for the men.

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It was to be both stone. Jesus lovingly asked if any man had not sinned to throw the first stone at her, which meant that they were guilty too. And when they left the stones and left her, he forgave her sick, because God is nothing God have a double standard one for women and one for men, but one and the same. Number two, as for his ability, from the beginning, God had planned to reach to redeem men. And in chapter three of Genesis, verse 15, we are told God made him promise them to Adam and he, that he will sin from the seed of the woman. And remember what Mr. Rogers said, miraculously, not the seed of men notice, but the seed of the woman, one who will crush the serpent's head, and it

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was Christ Jesus of Nazareth, fulfilling this promisee who did that on the cross by dying for sinners?

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Not just Adam and Eve. Thank you.

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Ladies and gentlemen, if you have the opinion that the speaker has not answered the question, and if you're correcting your belief, then that obviously amounts to default on the public speaker.

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So I would suggest that you refrain from disturbance

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expressing opinions from the floor. First question.

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Mr. Medina?

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Do Muslims believe in the virgin birth of our Lord Jesus? Or do they believe his father was Joseph

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Are we now the question again?

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Do Muslims believe in the virgin birth of our Lord Jesus? Or do they believe his father was Joseph?

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The question whether we Muslims believe the question is is our Lord now we don't believe that there are law.

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In the virgin birth of our Lord Jesus, we don't believe in the Lord Jesus, we believe in Jesus,

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Jesus Christ, that He was born miraculously, without any human intervention. So in the genealogy is given by Luke, he is a son of Joseph, and the world's ever suppose impacts which means the Holy Ghost inspired Luke to say, as well suppose these are the creations of them. In other words, this there is still sense that the Joseph the Carpenter was the actual father of Jesus, we do not believe that we believe that he was born miracles. And the Holy Quran testifies to that fact, in Surah, Allah when the good news is given to us,

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she says,

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Bashar says, Oh my Lord, how shall I have a son when no man has passion? So the angel says, reply, Allah says Allah, Allah

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said even so Allah creates what he will.

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Whenever he decrees a matter Allah tala, whenever

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in Amaya kulambu

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sspp. And it is so we believe in miracles,

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that without any intervention, he was born and Joseph the carpenter does not have any place in the house of Islam. There is no place for Joseph.

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The next question, ladies and gentlemen.

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It reads a Dublin housewife is obviously from a Dublin housewife.

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Mrs. Ann Spicer had asked the Irish senses to ban the Bible because she claimed one, it glorifies six, two, it accepts the sexual abuse of young girls. And three, it supports

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mutilation as an expert on the Bible. What have you to say about her accusations? Dr. nishiura?

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You can take it.

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Take a look here.

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Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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I would like to respond to that by reminding not just whoever asked this question, but Mr. Era as well. You see, the Bible is not a biography of your life, grossing over your bad things and showing how nice and great you are. The Bible is truth. And it shows you the wrong and the right so you will learn not to do the wrong. That's the part of it. As far as, as far as

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the Koran

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the Quran, also glorify * in as much as it tells you, you have 72 ladies waiting for you when you get there.

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As far as the record of the Bible, it tells you, it tells you the truth. And when you read the Bible within the context, God never condoned any of these events. They are recorded to show you how evil people were, and eventually how God judged them. It never proves that wrong, because right and wrong, don't go together. directness and light don't go together. And therefore, the Bible tells you that to remind you to escape these as he tells you in Romans chapter one, how God eventually gave them up because of their immortality and sensuality. Thank you

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The next question is addressed to Mr. Dena.

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And it reads, through your knowledge of the Muslim faith. Can you vouch for the fact that Muhammad was not antichrist?

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In short, the question is whether Mohammed was not the Antichrist. antichrist means one was opposed to Sally Salah one who's the char that jar is the term we use for antichrist.

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How can it be?

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Look, Islam Mohamed Salah, Salah made it possible for us Muslims to believe in Jesus. No Muslim is a Muslim, he does not believe in Jesus.

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We Muslims are made to believe

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on the authority of this holy book the Quran, that Jesus Christ was one of the mightiest messengers of God. We are made to believe that he was born miraculously. We are made to believe that he was the Christ, the Messiah, the Messiah. We are made to believe that he gave life to the dead by God's permission, and he was born blind in the lepers by God's permission.

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And the Christian Bible testifies to this. That I wanna be a Kareem Salah Salah is a true messenger of God that tested us. In the first episode of john chapter four. It says,

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He says, beloved,

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believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God. For many false prophets have gone out into the world. It continued the spirit that consisted that Jesus is the Christ is of God.

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His true spirit is a true prophet. And a false spirit is a false prophet. The Prophet that says that Jesus is the Christ is of God says his holy book.

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This is the test.

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Now why don't you apply? The Holy Prophet Muhammad is made to say, why is Carla Malika to Yama Yama, Behold the angel said Oh, marry him Allah ha you basuki Kalamata Minho says Allah gives you glad tidings of a word from him His mercy, his name will be the Messiah translated Christ, that Jesus is the Christ. If this is the test, here is a test. Why aren't you reasonable? Why don't you look up your own book and your book gives you the test apply. And the book also says set by the fruits you shall know that do men get a fix from the pistol or grace from the thorns is that every good tree will be good fruit, and every evil tree will be evil fooled by the fruits, you shall know them, and

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you count them on a man to man basis, the Muslim and the Christian, the Muslim in the Hindu, the Muslim and anybody else in brotherhood impiety, in charity in sobriety. There is not another community that can show a candle to us that we are better than us. We have our shortcomings.

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We have our black sheep we have like any other community, we have the good and the bad. We have our drunk cars that might put many Christian under the table.

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We have, but as a people as a whole, the biggest Society of tea totals in the world and the Muslims, bigger Society of people who don't invite all other Muslims. We have in my country and boasting and nobody has contradicted me yet the Muslims of South Africa, we have the lowest alcoholic consumption. We have the lowest gambling rate, we have the lowest suicide rate. We have the lowest prison rate, we have the lowest divorce rate, and we have the highest charity rate in the country.

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Jesus said, by the fruits, you shall know them, judge them by the fruits, not by individuals. This ruler had done something wrong and that guy had done certainly wrongs as they want you to get your own man. You know, Hitler, who was a Christian, Mussolini, who was a Christian.

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I've just been advised that we have sufficient time only for six more questions. That is three questions each.

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To Reverend Sharon, this question reads, in Matthew 27, we read about the wandering corpses after Jesus was put on the cross. Why do

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Will the other books of the New Testament not mentioned this great event of mass resurrection? Is not resurrection a fundamental belief in Christianity?

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Shall I repeat the question?

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In Matthew 27, we read about the wandering corpses after Jesus was put on the cross. I wonder what happened. Dozier and his donkey after he was raised 100 years after they were dead. Why do all the other books of the New Testament mentioned this great event? I guess what he means Why not? Why do all the other books of the New Testament not mentioned this great event of mass resurrection? I do not feel embarrassed to say to you, I do not know why. But I know this much. It was.

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I do not think it deserves clapping because none of you is so intelligent to know all the answers, because you would be gone.

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Now, I'm not finished. I'm not finished.

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Number two. Number two, this was a token from God Almighty, about the coming resurrection, which will take place at the end of time. So God was giving us a foretaste, if you please, of what is about to take place, he says, is not the resurrection a fundamental belief in Christianity? Yes, it is. And that's why Jesus was the firstborn of the dead. And that's why he tells us that we one day when the trumpet will sound which is also borrowed by Mohammed Barak, by Muhammad from the Bible, when the trumpet sounds that dead in Christ shall rise first. And we who are alive shall be taken in the clouds, God's word is to be believed. Whether you understand it or not, is a difficulty that you

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may face. Take for instance, the Quran, I would like to ask how many of you Arabic speaking people understand the Quran in Arabic?

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Oh, yeah. No kidding. You're not telling the truth. Because colors. Oh, no. Oh.

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Listen to this. The commentator, the newest Listen, the most Madryn, the most Madryn book, about the Islamic versus, which is a fake. This fake by Dr. caceis save that the Koran is unfriend salable, untranslatable, from Arabic to any other language.

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And therefore, it is not understood.

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That's a true.

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Thank you. Next question to Mr. DITA?

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Don't you think that it is proof enough that Jesus is God? Because he brought Lazarus back from the dead?

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The question was,

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I think something like this, that Jesus is God, because he rose Lazarus back from the dead.

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Nowhere does the Bible say that Jesus gave back life back to Lazarus knowing

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Jesus Christ when his friend Lazarus had died. If you read the Gospel of St. JOHN,

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that he was not there. When he goes to the village, where his friend Lazarus, supposed to be. And the sister of Lazarus, Martha tells him he said, Look, if you were here with us, my brother might not have died, meaning by some miraculous

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performance, you might have saved my brother's life. So Jesus tells her is that even now? If you have faith, you shall see the glory of God even now, not my glory, the glory of God. So saying is lead me to where you have laid him. So they take him to the soccer, soccer is a great count out of Iraq.

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And while he is going, he's crying to God for help. The Bible says he moved in the Spirit. He groaned in the spirit, meaning is crying, talking to God, which is not audible to the people that are with him. As it is crying, moaning

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something to the effect

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And he was actually communing with God. And when he got the assurance from God, Jesus Christ looks up towards heaven. And he says, Oh, my father, God Almighty, I know that thou has heard me what that groaning, that crying, that beseeching Allah for help. I know that he has heard me and I know that they'll hear me always. But because of the people that stood by this superstitious credulous people, they will think that I have done the job I have given life back in the day. Because of the people that stood by I said it, meaning I'm talking alone, that they may believe that that has sent me that's all that you have sent me It is you who are doing the words, and he says, I cannot do

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I by the finger of God cast out devils, I, by the Spirit of God do these things, where they say, Jesus that I gave life to the bed knowing

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the next question to Dr. Sharon

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doesn't appear to be very legible, I'll do my best.

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Which version of the Bible? Do you accept as authentic? Do you agree with the versions which were removed?

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One john five, seven, which read the three who be witnessed in?

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I don't know what was read lean, and I think the follow the words and the Holy Ghost,

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and that these three are one

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doctor should have you understood that question.

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This question, ladies and gentlemen, deals with

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text that is supposed to be in the text of the Scripture, code in the

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proper language of biblical, textual criticism, interpolation. That means it is not in the original text. When we talk about the Bible, ladies and gentlemen, I think I need to remind you, you believe the Quran came in Arabic. The Old Testament came in Hebrew, the New Testament in Greek. In order to understand precisely the meaning of the Scripture, you need to go to the origin of language, in criticizing that scripture, shall we say, approaching it in analytical manner, we are not afraid when a passage has been interpolating the scripture to identify it. Whereas you are, you have never been willing until this day in a public manner to approach the book in an analytical mirror. And you

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have not been very carefully listening to what's being said, instead, you've been jumping up and sounding off. Secondly, as for that verse itself, that verse itself,

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in the new textual translations, depending on the copies that we have from ancient Greece, such as the copy of Sinaiticus, such as the copies in Greek, at the museum here in London, we have discovered the more ancient discoveries archaeologists make, the more carefully we are able to analyze and show you the precise writing from as far back as we can find. The question I have for you is this. Why did Othman burn all your arms? Do you realize

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I have here in my hand,

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materials for the history of the text of the Quran, in which we have identified must have seen in Al Azhar and in Damascus, that go back to the days of Muhammad himself, where the variant readings are identified. And I challenge you to get the book by author Jeffrey, who is a scholar that spent about 14 years studying that. So the answer to the question is, that verse is not in the Scripture. And this is what we believe, because we believe in the authenticity of the Scripture itself, according to textual, analytical, archaeological criticism that we appreciate to believe that truth is the truth.

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Next question, Mr. deedat.

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Don't Muslims also have different versions of the Quran for Arabs and for non Arabs

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The question was, do Muslims also have different versions of the Quran?

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We have no different versions.

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We have we have different translations. What is the difference between a version and a translation? I tell you see translation, you have a choice of words. Like the ghosts, I quoted you from the Gospel of St. JOHN, Chapter 18, verse nine, where it says, I have lost men.

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That's one, one translation, another one says,

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not one, or many choice of words, not a single one. These are what is called choice in, in translating words is not worship.

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But the version is, as the brother was trying to explain. He said that the verse on the Trinity is an interpolation.

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He said that interpolation in something that has been pushed into it, which is not supposed to be there.

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And in the Bible, he presented to me that verse is a part of the text. In other words, now that's a version, you open another book,

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The Roman Catholic version of the Bible, which is the RSV version, Roman Catholic, they threw it out as a fabrication. That was, it's a different version.

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This RS V is a different version. You remember the verse I quoted You, Jesus telling Paul, why kickass thyself against the pricks. That verse, that filthy dirty verse is not thrown out of this as an interpolation as a fabrication as an adulteration. So it's a different version. Now, you know, what's the version, you see the version that that one, this one has it, this one is thrown out version, this one here has 66 books inside.

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This one here has got 73 books inside. It's a different version of you understand that? My Simple English

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so we have no different versions of the Quran. The Arabic Quran, university is the same no difference between one part of the word or another. In translations, we have pig Paul, Muhammad Ali Yusuf Ali Daria body as

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you can have 100 of them. There are different translations, but they are not different versions, only choice of words in which they differ.

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Just two more questions, and I urge the speakers to address these questions as shortly as possible. I'm told that we have to round up now to Dr. Aneesh Roche.

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Why are the Apocrypha

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which were accepted up to the time of Martin Luther as God's word rejected by a portion of the Christian world and why the Roman Catholics still accept them as God's word was in your opinion disqualifies them from being the Word of God?

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Whoever as the as the question apparently does not know what he says. Because in that lesson, Please behave yourself. Now.

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All right.

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Don't act like children please. All right.

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the question

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if you read this copy of the Bible, you will notice that it introduces you to the words that indicate these are suggested as helpful reading material, it never says they are inspired like the rest of the 66 books. And apparently, you think that they are in my hand. I have the Quran by Pixar. And I read here Phantom Anna hula ilaha illallah wa masterfully then be covered in macmini in our movie net one La Jolla Allah moussaka.

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Now in English here is that translation, so no Mohammed, that there is no God save Allah and ask for forgiveness for by sin and for believing men and believing women. Allah know if both your place of turmoil and your and then he forgets the rest of the verse.

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It's right here. They forgot to translate the whole thing. What do you think of that?

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What do you think of that? Thank you.

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Ladies and gentlemen, ladies and gentlemen. Ladies and gentlemen, your attention please. Your attention please. We have about a minute to go. And I want to put the last question to Mr. deedat v that will you please answer this question as quickly as possible. Original Sin is a reality. Why do Muslims reject this most important belief? Repeat the question Original Sin is a reality? Why do Muslims reject this most important belief?

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The question is asked about the original sin, that it is a reality.

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What do you mean the original sin? You see the Christians they believe that what Adam and he when they act the forbidden fruit because of that sin entered into the world and every human child, from the time of Adam up to Doomsday is a sinner and as such as destined to *, every human being goes to *, because of the sin of Adam and Eve what they did they add the forbidden fruit. So God Almighty is going to put everybody into *. Unless you believe,

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as Dr. Suresh would say, you believe that Christ paid for that sin, you are absorbed.

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Otherwise, each and every one, whether you call yourself Hindu, Muslim, Jew, whatever you are, everybody goes to *. For the sin of Adam and Eve, has a look. That is not just law. Because the Bible your Bible says, the soul that sinneth it shall die. The one that sins, that one will be punished, that one will be destroyed, the son shall not be the iniquity of the Father, the father Adam sin, his children will not be made responsible for his sins, the son shall not be the iniquity of the Father, neither shall the father be the iniquity of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him any good deed the good man does, he takes his reward and the wickedness

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of the wicked shall be upon him. Whatever evil thing the evil man does, he will be punished. But if the wicked will turn, will repent, do is too far from all the sins that he has committed, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live he shall not die. In other words, every person is personally responsible for his his or her action. There is no such thing as men inherit sin, which is in the words of one great British major heat Brown, he wrote a book on the life of a balla Lancer, in which he says, referring to the Christian doctrine of the original sin, and redemption by the blood of Christ.

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Major eats Brown, he says, no heat and dry, has ever conceived so grotesque an idea filthy, dirty, ugly idea, no hidden tribe has ever thought of such such silly things. It says no hidden tribe has ever conceived so grotesque an idea involving as it does the assumption that men was born with a hereditary stain upon him, and that this stain for which he was not personally responsible was to be atone for and the Creator of all things had to sacrifice his only begotten Son to neutralize this mysterious curse is it hasn't occurred to any backward barbaric people, no hidden tribe has ever thought of such such things. such nonsense. There is no such thing as the original said.

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Ladies and gentlemen.

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Ladies and gentlemen, you're once again reminded about the lecture or debate which will be held at this venue tomorrow at 6:30pm. you requested to attend and to support

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gratitude must be expressed to the organizers, Mr. Asma Gita, Mr. Abdulla dira, misuse of data and especially Mr. Sharma, Shahrukh Khan of the Islamic Propagation Center, which is situated at 481 Coventry road, small Heath Burg Birmingham and his team who labored so relentlessly, our appreciation to the speakers Mr. Madeira and Dr. Nice Shiraz for their presentations, but perhaps the most important thank you for attending a Salaam Alaikum Peace be with you.

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If the Quran is indeed from God, does it contradict itself and as much as it says, Okay.

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Therefore, Jesus was born, he died and he rose again. The second question is go I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

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Let me challenge you.

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75% of the wonderful course and in my wonderful language of Arabic is from the Bible. And I would urge you to look into the Bible and find out where the sources are. And the

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I'd like to urge you to consider that when we say Bismillah R Rahman Rahim,

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we see the Trinity 113 times in the Quran, like the Bible says Bismillah as well as in order to produce we must love one another. We must recognize that

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even the Quran testifies that Jesus is the only person who knows the hour of judgment. Matthew's Gospel we are told.

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I also like to say that, we'll have

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to see if we can explain to you where did you come up with the word is in the Koran, his name is Yeshua in Arabic.

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Furthermore, his whole group of scholars in Jerusalem labored to achieve the fulfillment of a 16 year old project.

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Bismillah Ar Rahman Rahim.

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Kalia, you know it good to

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in New Zealand.

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When a

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and a woman are funny,

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una Whoa, whoa, Cyrano.

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De Ville Hawaii. Milena,

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feanor takahisa.

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Rama, Rama Rajan. For you who do not know Arabic.

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We are told in Surah

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verse three, when

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this is, I hope will not be misunderstood. But this is a verse in which it says and if you can't be fair

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to marry,

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married, as many are four. But if you cannot marry just one, one is bound to ask. If

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he didn't go to the host correctly, you're saying Surah Nisa was three was something to the effect.

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The Quran says marry women of your choice by twos and threes and fours. But if you cannot do justice between them marry only one.

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The only religious book

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I'm saying the only religious book on the face of the earth.

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Is has this expression, married only one is the Quran.

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A Muslim husband may test his wife.

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A Muslim husband may cast his wife adrift without giving a single reason or even a notice. The husband possesses absolute immediate question power of divorce. He can simply announce to his wife I divorced three times and she's gone. No privilege.

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But he's supposed to among the Quran, there is a chapter in the Quran the whole chapter is called surah Allah meaning chapter divorce.

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You must have read it surah tala tala.

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At the outset, Sharon, she said he has been studying the Quran for two years now. Two years

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See what the Quran says Please brother pointing the finger at the Quran.

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In surah baqarah verse 256, we are told there is no compulsion in religion.

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It was very different. After Mohammed's power was established, when the Muslim armies went forward to attack the surrounding tribes and nations, they offer them three options is lamb to Arabia, or the sword. Incidentally, I said, Look, my brother, Soros, you are a proof that the Muslims didn't use any compulsion for 1400 years.

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For 100 years, you and your other Christians will say number 14 million, they live in our midst. In Egypt, the Muslims have been the Overlord of that country for 1400 years. For a few years, the French King for a few years the British came, but overall for 1400 years, the Muslim has been ruling that land and yet and yet

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today, you can boast there are 10 million Coptic Christians in Egypt.

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of any time, they would not have been a single Christian left in the country.

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We are told that when the treaty with the Meccans was to be signed by Mohammed, they refused to acknowledge him as the apostle of Allah relenting to their demands, he struck out that title and wrote with his hand instead of Mohammed Rasulullah, Mohammed son of

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a second. And he lied again about the history of Islam, that who they are, Mohammed changed the words to Muhammad Abdullah Muhammad Rasulullah. What the Holy Prophet Muhammad did was, he is instructing the scribes when the Quraysh the pagans the mistakes when they objected to Muhammad Rasulullah Muhammad Sallallahu Sallam he told us cut off masuleh so the disciple in love and feeling they said, No, we can cut it off with our own hands, we can cut it off, we can say that Muhammad is not.

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So know what to do, the treaty was being jeopardized. So the Holy Prophet is asking where are these words Muhammad Rasul Allah. So he saw the word Allah and he took the pen and he marked it off. That is what he did. He didn't put

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press 106 man

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before when

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the kalamaki left and there is no changing or altering to the declaration or decisions of Allah. Muslims claim

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to at Marion 1928 says yeah, after Haruna McKenna

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most erroneous errors in the Quran is the reference to marry the mother of Jesus as the sister of Aaron. Here identity seems to be irrevocably.

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So you see, the answer to your problem is in you.

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The Bible

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the Bible

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Is it? It is in the first book of the

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first. Chapter One was 11113 aces in a game. We'll never forget.

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You asked me What does it say?

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I tell you what it says. It says, you remember, I showed you the genealogy? Yes. The first verse. It says, This is the genealogy of Jesus Christ, the son of Abraham

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Is that what it says? Jesus is the son of Abraham is a son of David.

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In the Gospel of St. Louis, in the other genealogy, he is the son of

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he is the son of Abraham.

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He is the son of David David, his father is the son of Joseph, Joseph is his father is the Son of God, what is his father, a man who's got four fathers, in your language, sir, in America.

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So this is explaining, as you see, it's the same. You know, Jesus told us, he said, Judge not that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge shall be judged.

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Why is he is that the

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MCs mother, I suppose, from your

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second Timothy 316, to 17. All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good word, Romans 15.

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You see, I quoted one brief verse about Samson. Samson goes to casa, and he sees a harlot and he goes into

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this is supposed to be in the Word of God. Now, under the test that is given to us, by Dr. Suresh, where does it fit in?

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Does it is that your doctrine?

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That when you go someplace and you see a prostitute you go in unto her, your doctrine is that you're teaching? reproof? Was there any reproof given by God Almighty say, I'll punish you? I'll put you in *. Nothing.

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correction is no You mustn't do this, but you must marry her. And then you can put what? What instruction, nothing at all. So I'm asking the doctor or any Christian at any time, please, please. Read the Bible. With this critical eye. There are things that are in the Bible, you can't fit in anyway. Genesis chapter 30.

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The next question, so Dr. Suresh,

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doesn't appear to be very legible. I'll do my best. Which version of the Bible Do you accept as authentic? Do you agree with the versions which were removed?

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One john five, seven, which read the three who be witnessed in

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addition to what that was read lean in, I think, the Father, the words and the Holy Ghost,

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and that these three are one.

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Dr. Sharon, have you understood that question?

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This question Ladies and gentlemen, these weather

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texts that are supposed to be in the text of the Scripture called in the

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proper language of biblical, textual criticism, interpolation. That means it is not in the original text when we talk about the Bible, ladies and gentlemen.

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But the version is as the brother was trying to explain, he said that the verse on the Trinity is an interpolation.

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He said that interpolation in something that has been pushed into it, which is not supposed to be there. And in the Bible, he presented to me that verse is a part of the text. In other words, now that's a version you open another book,

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The Roman Catholic version of the Bible, which is the RSV version, Roman Catholic, they threw it out is a fabrication that was is a different version.

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by hand, I have the Quran by Pixar, and I read here Phantom and the hula, Allah Illallah was still fairly then be covered in many in our movie net Wallah.

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Now in English here is that translation, so no Mohammed, that there is no God save Allah and ask for forgiveness for thy sin and for believing men and believing women. Allah no with both your place of turmoil and your and then he forgets, the rest delivers. It's right here. They forgot to translate the whole thing. What do you think of that?

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What do you think of that? Thank you.

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