Abdullah Hakim Quick – Sects and Cults in the Muslim World Prt 2 #05 – The Qadiyani Movement

Abdullah Hakim Quick
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Bismillah R Rahman r Rahim Al hamdu Lillahi Rabbil Alameen wa Salatu was Salam ala Salle, Olean will occur in the Vienna Mohammedan. While Allah He was happy he radical salah, while praise the due to Allah, Lord of the Worlds peace and blessings be upon our beloved Prophet Muhammad, the master of the first and the last, and upon his family, his companions and all those who call to his way, and establish his sunnah to the day of judgment as to what follows my beloved brothers and sisters, to our friends, our viewers, salaam, Alaikum, warahmatullahi, wabarakatuh Alhamdulillah, we have another opportunity to reflect upon

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some very important information. And that is to be able to understand who we are as Muslims, and what is other ways that have come into our beautiful Islamic way of life? What are other concepts? What are the challenges that we are facing. And this means that we have to understand names of individuals and movements from the root. And by understanding these names from the basis, we can then look at our present situation in the world today. And we can reflect upon which way to go.

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And the basis of this is that a Muslim in the time of Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him,

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was not necessarily somebody who was certain close.

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It wasn't necessarily somebody who spoke a certain language. Because if you looked at the close of the enemies of Islam, Abu Jaha, and Abu Lahab, and the people who were attacking and killing the Muslims in Mecca,

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they had nice beards.

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They had long clothes.

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They spoke Arabic. And today if you saw somebody dressed like that, you would think, well, this is a chef. This is a leader. But no, they were the enemies of Islam. So it wasn't about the address.

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It wasn't about the language. Because Arabic is spoken by people who have many different concepts of life. The Muslim, as defined by the Prophet SAW seldom is the one who believes in Allah and His Messenger,

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who establishes the Oneness of Allah, who establishes a lot. Who pays the Zakat, the charity,

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who fasted Ramadan, who makes hajj that is that the the the Muslim, the believer, motormen is the one who believes in Allah and His Messenger, and the books and the Last Day and the cutter. These are the principles of Eman. And the Mohsen is the one who worships Allah as though he sees him or as though he sees a lot. These are the root definitions. And it was not connected to any particular part of the world. Because amongst the companions of the Prophet SAW Salem, were people of all nationalities, of all walks of life, of all classes within society.

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The believer was the one who submitted Islam is this lamb, surrender to Allah subhanaw taala. So, that is the basis from which we are looking at what happened to the Muslim world. And what entered into the Muslim world, intentionally or unintentionally, to take the believers off the path. And we reached the point of looking at the liar prophets. And we recognized that 30 Liar prophets also have been predicted by the Prophet SAW Salem would come into his nation.

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All of them claiming to be a prophet.

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All of them you could see, claiming to have some revelation

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But the Prophet SAW seldom said that he is the last prophet and messenger, there are no more to come after him. So the lie of prophets and again, I want to stress, this concept of the liar prophets, each time we go into a new movement. We need to understand this because it's difficult sometimes, for people who have just embraced Islam, or people who have renewed their faith. It's difficult to conceptualize a person having the right way, but deciding to do something else.

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A person who even speaks Arabic who has had some experiences, but yet they do the opposite.

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And so the liar prophets, and the people of the lie,

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represent a very dangerous category. And this is where hypocrites, the monastic is one of the chief people of the lie, because they live in a delusion. And the people of the lie,

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especially in relationship to the liar prophets, they proud to have extreme pride, visions of grandeur, thinking that they're perfect, and they distort the message of Islam, they will literally distort it in order to gain followers. So sometimes the liar prophets will do things, knowing that this will please the people and get them in back of them.

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And in doing this, one of the most dangerous things that happen is the cancellation of the second half of the Kalama shahada, Muhammad Rasul Allah, so to sell them that when we say there's no God, but Allah and Muhammad is his messenger to nullify this to cancel this and put your face in the face of Rasul Allah so seldom, you are not only personally attacking him, but you're nullifying the Sunnah.

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Because the Prophet peace be upon him was described as the Quran, walking and talking.

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And this is critical for us. And sometimes people say why why are you muslim, so sensitive about the Prophet?

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Why can't you just allow people to attack his name and to make fun of him and to tell wrong stories.

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And we try to help them to understand that the Prophet SAW Selim is not just a person we like, but as a person that we follow in all aspects of life. And through his life,

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we structure our Sharia, or Islamic law and lifestyle.

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When this is negated, then the liar prophets bring in a new type of Sharia, a new type of law.

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And this

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is extremely dangerous for us, and for many different angles. And so,

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in looking at the liar prophets,

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we are moving

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out of the Middle East, the Levant, and moving towards India.

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last lesson, we looked at the behind movement, we were looking at Iran, and Turkey and

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Syria and the Levant area. But now we want to look at India to see what happened there. And of course, all over the world, there are a number of people who made these claims. But we are looking at the major movements that came out of these parts of the world. And so by the middle of the 19th century, or even before the British had already gained direct or in indirect control over almost all of India.

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Okay, so you're looking at the 19th century, colonial powers are moving out, they divided up the world in the Berlin Conference, the European powers, and they gave India to the British. And by controlling that area,

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they were able to control one of the most valuable parts in the world, to the point where the British considered to be the jewel in the British crown. And if you look at the Indo Pakistani subcontinent, before the partition, and that is the breakup of India, you will see and this is a 1940.

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You'll see that this includes not only what is now India today,

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but also you'll see on the right side Bangladesh and on the left side, Pakistan and in India,

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on Kashmir,

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all of these areas were originally part of one Indian indo Pakistani sub continent. And so the British were struggling to control this area. And there are some amazing statistics coming out of this century where a good percentage of the GDP of the world of the minerals and jewels be extracted and exported and spices and so many things was coming out of India. So, this is extremely important and really, it is the basis of one of the bases of the power of the British Empire.

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But in order to control this area, the British had to suppress resistance. And amongst the the greatest resistance came from the Muslims. We have the example of tipo Sultan, who is called the Lion of Mysore. And he struggled and struggled until finally he was killed, he was murdered on May 4 1790, as 1799. So, it was the Muslims and the Sikhs, the Sikhs also put up a lot of resistance. But the greatest resistance, again, if you look at India, that time it included Pakistan and could Bangladesh and Kashmir.

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So, the Muslims were the greatest resistance that had to be overcome. So, the British strategy was they were using economics. They began by making economic basis and bringing in their

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India trading companies, the British trading companies, and they started to tray with tea and spices and jewels and whatnot. And so,

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but they needed to control the upper class, and they needed to suppress any dissent. So that meant that they had to reach the minds of the masses who were resisting, and that was mainly the Muslims. And so enter the scene. Leia profit number 16 Mirza Ghulam Ahmed

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Mirza Ghulam Ahmed and Mirza is a name of respect sir, or something like that. He was born in February 13 1835. In Korean and Korean is in the Punjab region, which is in the north of Pakistan, sort of the north west area and

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he was coming from a wealthy family so he learned to read the Arabic text of the Quran. He was educated. He studied basic Arabic grammar and Persian language because Persian was being used as a language of culture and used also in the courts and, and also communications. So he learned the Persian language from a teacher named Fazal Ilahi and then from Fazal Ahmed and ghoul Alisha. So he was you could call a cultured person at that time. And from 1864 to 1868.

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Upon his father's wishes, Ghulam Ahmed, he served as a clerk in CL cot. Now, because of technology, we actually have pictures. So this is Gulaba. These pictures that I showed you from the beginning. This is a picture of Ghulam Ahmed himself. We couldn't do that before. When we're talking about musei Lima. We're talking about some of the other layer prophets who came along but now we are able to give you extensive pictures and scenarios are surrounding the layer prophets. And this stage of his life was a very interesting one. And it forms really the basis of the outward Qadiani Ahmadiyya movement. And that is that while he was there, and siopa, he would come in contact with the

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Christian missionaries. And the missionaries were trying to proselytize the Muslims and the Sikhs and Hindus. And when it comes to the Hindus, they're coming from a totally different religion.

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When it comes to the Sikhs, their background is totally different. But Muslims, it's different because we see the Christians as people of the book. So therefore within the court and as the stories of Musa lay cerami Ibrahim alayhi salam, Isa, la sala, we actually have the new version of their revelation.

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And so we're the perfect people to actually engage in debates with the Christians. And so he was heavily involved in debates.

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Christians had. So he developed the ability to go to the sources of Islam, and to defend the message of Islam and also to break down the wrongs within Christianity. Now, what happens to many people who become apologists or debates within Islam as if they reached the point where they are debating, and they are analyzing, and then they start looking at themselves and other Muslims. And if they do not continue to purify their hearts, the shaytaan will the other Billa can get to them and to the ego. And so you find many times that people who reach this high level of debate, and they're really eloquent with their words, sometimes it goes to the head. But at that point in his life, from

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1860 4018 68, he was a chess champion of Islam.

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He is a person that if the Muslims needed somebody to defend Islam, to stand up against the Christian, they would bring him in.

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But later on,

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that human weakness must have kicked in in his life. And he started to claim that he was much dupe, or that he was a saint who had miracles. And so by making this claim, this brought attention. It's almost like some people say, are really the only app. And so when you start talking about miracles, and sainthood, now, the people don't look at you just as a person who's cultured and who can debate Christians, they start looking at you in a different way. And so he made this claim,

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he continued, and seeing the results that he was getting, seeing the reaction of the people to his claim, and then follow was coming and his success in the field of debate. In 1882, he claimed he wasn't rejected. And this information is not secret. It is well documented. Because there are newspaper articles, there are books written, there are even text coming from his movement itself, which can show you his claims. So around 1882, he claimed that he was a magenta it. Now we use the word magenta, that's touch deed. And so this means a renewal of the faith. Remember the process, Salim said, Allah Rusik colleague, Cardinal magenta, that the head of every century or 100 years,

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there would be a renewal of the faith. And this has come over the centuries and hamdulillah to enable us to renew our faith and not fall into the dust, dust bowls of history. So he claimed that he was a Mujaddid, reviving

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the faith of Islam.

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The next point that he reached, because you have stages now, first, he's much loop. So he's like, has blessings and miracles around him, then he's been rejected. So he's reviving the faith for the Muslim ummah, then he goes to the point of Maddie. Now, what he claims is the MA D, this is the guided one was the Prophet SAW Salem predicted would come before the end of time. And we know that this would be just before the time of the Antichrist, and the return of Isa alayhis. Salam is a part of the signs of piano. And so the MADI claims bring about an apocalyptic type of scenario around the individual. And again, that draws people and it draws attention. And so he claimed that he was

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Then he went up a stage further around 1891 And he claimed that he was a messiah. He was the Messiah almasi. Now we know that the Quran is speaking about isa de Salam as Alma Sia. So this is a serious claim now, because you're now going from Maddie, who was a guided one, but a regular Muslim, in a sense, he's from Ahlulbayt, on the family of the Prophet SAW Salem, to the point of saying you're a messiah. Okay, and that's around 1891. Now, what he was doing at the same time with all these people coming

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in now, march 23 1889, he founded the Ahmadiyya community. And this is a picture of him. Look in the middle of the picture, you'll see Ghulam Ahmed. And he took a pledge from 40 followers and they use the prophetic way of the pledge they join hands and whatnot and they they recite a type of pledge of commitment and we know this bear. It's something very important within Islamic leadership.

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Because the Prophet SAW Selim, you see that when the Muslims were in Medina, they had pledged himself to Islam. He had to take another pledge for the battle of better because they didn't expect that they would be attacked. But he sort of like reconfirm their faith. It happened again, Bay and Ridwan under the tree. And that is when they thought when they did the ombre and then Medina period. Okay, so that's Bayer. And that is the pledge. We all take a pledge. We take a pledge to a lot as messenger every time we pray. But this is a leadership pledge.

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And it is important to pledge and we know we have a Bayer, that once a miracle meaning comes for the Muslim world, that we have a major barrier that all Muslims should be taking to the Khalifa. There's also a pledge minor pledges that people will take to carry out certain actions that Amir's and leaders are will ask of their followers commitment, in other words, getting more commitment from their followers. And so the Ahmadiyya community that they call themselves at that time, because of good on, Ahmed. So what's our Medea? They continued along with this pledge. Now in 1900.

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On the occasion of evil, odd ha.

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He is it is said that he delivered an hour long sermon, but it was an Arabic, of course, because they spoke Persian and later, refined Urdu coming in, as well.

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But this hooba was an hour long, it's not just football Hajah your the basic elements, you know, of the football is an hour long sermon in classical Arabic. Right, he expounded on the meaning and the philosophy of sacrifice. Take us a little Aadhaar is the festival of the sacrifice. So what is sacrifice mean, for the time of Ibrahim Alayhi Salam.

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But what's different about this is that it's coming in Arabic, it's flowing through him, according to what his followers said. And it goes on for an hour. So this is considered one of the most important events in the history of the media. And the sermon was written down by his companions, and it became known as Hapa Ilha media or the inspired sermon.

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Okay, now,

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a quote from this, he said, so you can see where his mind is, remember, now, the liar profits right there in this illusion, this delusion type of thing. And so he said, it was like a hidden fountain, gushing forth. And I did not know whether it was I who was speaking, or an angel, who was speaking through my tongue. The sentences were just being audit, and every sentence was a sign of God for me.

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So this isn't his book, happy cattle why?

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He later named his revelation al Kitab. Al moonbeam. So this is the Clear Book. And it was made up of 20 parts and this becomes his book. So now you see the stages that he's reaching now, when he's going up toward prophethood. Now he's reaching the point where he's got a book. So people will say, Okay, if you've got a book,

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where's your base, his base was Korean. And Korean is also in the Punjab area, near Lahore, and Amritsar. It's there in the in the Punjab, the northern part of India.

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And he wrote, but the yarn is the mother of all towns. Anyone who cuts away from it will be cut and torn to pieces. The fruits of Mecca and Medina have been cut but the fruits of Pantheon will remain ever fresh. You see, so even Mecca and Medina might fall up at this place here. This is the Qibla so this becomes the Qibla for his followers.

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Not those three places Mecca, Medina and Jerusalem know

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its Pantheon becomes their base. And to substantiate that he made the claim because you say okay Cardian now you got to back this up. So he taught that isa lay Salam Jesus did not die on the cross. Right, well, Mark Cthulhu who were masala boo, well, I can shoot Vietnam. Right. They didn't kill him a crucified, but it was made to appear to them that they did as the Quran states. What he said was, he didn't die on the cross or was raised to the heaven. He escaped

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And he went to Kashmir

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and he died a natural death and some say even married a Kashmiri sister.

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And there's even like a bloodline. But the key point is he didn't die there. He went to Kashmir.

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And he built a minaret in guardian. Because all sort of in the north, you go to the Punjab and then a little bit to the east and over Kashmir. So, he built this minaret signifying the coming of the Messiah. Now, what is the crucial part about this? It is that according to authentic traditions, easily salaam who was raised, we believe he was raised, he wasn't killed, that he ascended into the heavens and he will come back down

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in Damascus, and he will come at a white minaret of the Marriott mosque.

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And so to make this claim, and to substantiate it, Ghulam Ahmed den said, No, this is the minaret, and they even take a map. And if you look at Damascus, and they'll draw a line, and exactly east of Damascus, his guardian.

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Okay, so they even draw a line to show where it is that this is what it actually means. So these are all justifications, again, the people of the lie live in an illusionary world. It's a construct. Now, what is the strategic reason why he's doing this?

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We believe that it is the shape time or the other biller himself was inspiring people. But the Devils on Earth Shayateen on its, who are who are inspired to dominate and colonize the people of the planet will use individuals for their means. And Ghulam Ahmed

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was being used by the British Empire. Now, there's a lot of debates around him one way or another, was he actually a paid agent of the British? Or was he inspired by shaytaan? Or was he really a magenta Prophet, you're going to hear a lot of things swirling around our basis is the basis of Islam.

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Once you have Islam as a basis, then we can judge other things and see where it has deviated off the path. And in this case, one of the key issues that he was dealing with is the concept of jihad. And we know that Jihad does not mean holy war. Jihad is a struggle. And it has many dimensions. There's a dimension, there's a jihad, enough's, we're struggling all the time within ourselves, to to make the right choice. There is a type of a middle built model for Naya mancha calling to the good and forbidding evil in our families and our societies. But there's also a level of jihad that involves armed struggle.

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Now, remember, in the Indo Pakistani subcontinent, it was the Muslims, who was giving the greatest resistance to the British crown.

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And so he rejected the idea of armed jihad. And there's a number of arguments surrounding this. One version of the arguments is that he looked at struggle. How do you fight against evil

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and the time of Musa alayhis salam, you are nihilists your enemies. And you come in fire and brimstone you know, annihilate, destroy, take over completely. And the time of Prophet Muhammad Salah Salem, you struggle against evil, if you have to fight you fight, but you fight with conditions. You do not kill the innocent, you do not destroy property, you do not kill priests, people are the book, the elderly, non combatants, there's a series of conditions surrounding war, the rules of engagement. His position was that this form of of jihad or armed struggle on the type of province on seldom it is, an out is canceled. And in his time, the only thing that's present is

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to defend Islam by the pen and the tongue.

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And remember now, his original struggle that he was involved in. The early part of his career was he was defending Islam, with his pen and with his tongue. He was a champion.

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Now he takes it to the point where there shouldn't be any armed resistance by the Muslims and you can obviously see how this can be used by the British

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Empire at the time, in order to suppress any resistance to the call of the colonization of the Indo Pakistani subcontinent. So by the year 1901, that's another phase now. Now he declares that he's a full Prophet and Messenger of this time period. So this is a major claim. And you can imagine how the Muslims are going to react to this, because now you're clearly a liar, Prophet. There's no vagary inside of this. It's clear, and it's open. He's saying he is the prophet of this time. And there's a lot of semantical arguments around I remember reading an argument where they said that yes, the prophet is horrible and be our Mursaleen. He is the seal of the prophets and messengers. So

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the letters in those days, you would have the letter and then you would take some gum, you know, and you would pour the wax on the letter, and then you would stamp it. So that's cotton.

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Okay, so he's saying that Mohammed salah is the seal on the letter, but he's the letter. You see if he really did, he played on words. So yes, he's the hotter but I'm the letter.

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So I am the one for this day and this age. Of course, a powerful resistance came from the scholars.

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The three most vocal opponents were malata abdulhak, a lot of cyber law and check sunagro law of Amritsar. This is very close to cardio. But there was also Allama Iqbal, the famous poet scholar himself, he was also very vocal in opposition to rule.

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So this resistance is coming. Obviously, when the person claims that their Messiah it's one thing you say you're rejected, or, you know, you are inspired by Allah, people can get a type of Kurama. But when you say you're a prophet, you crossed the Red Line. And so opposition came,

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and a series of debates were going on.

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And Ghulam Ahmed himself

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launched these debates. And in writing with with with Allama Sadat, Allah of Amritsar and April 15 1907, gulab sent a major cursing and mobila challenge to Salah Allah. So you see this surrounding sunnah Allah and up to hop. You know, this MOBA, Allah came in and this MOBA Allah is based upon Surah Ali Imran verses 60 to 61. And that is where when Allah subhanaw taala, you know, is talking to the province on Salem, showing in the method ISA and Allah He can mentally Adam, he said that the example of Isa, to Allah is like the example of Adam. And then Allah brings that revelation.

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And then he said, if somebody does not believe in this, then you should say to them, bring your children bring your your women bring your families, and let's invoke the curse of Allah, upon ourselves, whoever is wrong, that's more by Allah. So you're literally going to invoke the curse of Allah, on yourself. And this played out in the time of the Prophet SAW Selim, you remember, near the end of the prophet hood, when we had our mineral food, and this is the years when delegations came into Medina.

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One of the delegations was the Christians from Nigeria, and the Christian Nigerian, which is in Yemen.

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They were one of the strongest Christian communities in the Arabian Peninsula. And they came in and they came to the Prophet Solomon said, we were Muslim before you.

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And a debate happened till it reached the point where the Prophet SAW salem said, Okay, if you're going to be arrogant like this, then let's do mobile Hello.

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And report say that the process Alan brought his close family, Ali and Fatima and Hassan was saying, they were ready now. You want to invoke the curse of Allah. But Elijah Ronnie's intelligently said that's too far.

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So can you accept that we are not going to be Muslim, but we'll pay the Jizya. We will pay the tax the poll tax. And the Prophet peace be upon him agreed. And then the journeys went back to the area. Eventually, they embraced Islam in crowds. But the Shah had here, the witness is wobei Allah.

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And so this was the challenge that was being sent out by Ghulam Ahmed. It was taken on and there's a number of

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reports about what actually happened, that they got into debates, they were cursing each other. And even some reports are saying that Ghulam Ahmed said to Abdul heart that you're going to die.

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You know, before me, I have this revelation. There's a number of things going back and forth. But it is reported that on May 26 1908, that Ghulam Muhammad died horribly many people say from color.

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But he died at that time, abdulhak was still alive and well.

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So that is the individual himself. And whenever discussions come with the idea, or what we call Qadiani, movement,

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you need to go back to the actual so called prophet himself. There's a lot of semantical arguments. How do you interpret the word Hutton seal? How do you interpret easily Salah what actually happened to him? What does it mean? There's a lot of arguments back and forth. And the Qadiani is to their credit, they study debate.

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And they're actually pretty good at debating with Christians. Because remember, Gula, Muhammad was doing that in the early part of his life. But he crossed the line

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when he said he was the prophet. And he was the final prophet from these time. And so this brought about unanimous condemnation from the Muslim world. And the Qadiani movement was condemned. And this is the old original building of the Muslim World League in Mecca. And this is where the scholars from around the world came together. robata Parliament Islami unanimous that the members of this movement are outside of the fold of Islam.

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But the Qadiani movement split into factions.

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The first main faction was the the only faction headed by Nora Dean, and Muhammad Ahmed, this the sons of God,

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and they continue on, he's a prophet. Pantheon is the base.

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You know, he's, he says, already come

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that extreme position. And so they believe that he was everything that he said the Promised Messiah, covenantal, muddy, even superior to all the prophets. And if you don't believe in Him, you're an infidel, your coffee, and you shall enter hellfire. So that is the extreme. So it's not like people were calling them Kofa disbelief. They believe that if you're not following Him, you are a disbeliever.

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The other movement is the Lahori faction. And this is the one that confuses people. And it was led by Muhammad Ali, who was one of the scribes of Ghulam Muhammad. They declared that Hulan was not a prophet or an apostle. But he was a revivalist, like Magette did.

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they they also said, though, if you don't accept the fact that he was a reformer, or revivalist, that this is a very evil thing. It's an abomination.

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And so in a sense, they were sort of a hidden, indirect faction.

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They didn't go to the point of prophethood.

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But they maintained the concept of SLA Salam, because one of the first available core ends in America, in Canada in the western world was this translation of the Quran, Maulana Muhammad Ali. I remember, back in 1970, entering into Islam, this was the key book that we were reading. And you'll see that people at the time because it's well laid out. But if you read in the footnotes, then you'll see how isa goes to Kashmir, then you will see the strange concepts that they actually bring in a while making a very excellent translation of the Quran itself. So, but the unanimous position of the Muslims around the world is that both of the movements are outside the fold of Islam. This is

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But still, the British Empire facilitated the movement of this group to their colonies. And I had the opportunity to travel to 63 countries visiting Muslims.

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And in a number of the countries that I visited

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the British speaking ones you'll see Australia, Nigeria,

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Trinidad there's a number of places

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You know where the British controlled, you'll see that the in the 19th century, 20th century, it's really going into the 20th century, that the British gave them visas, and they allow them to travel. So they were in many parts of the world, the first indo Pakistani Muslims who are coming into the area.

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In some of the parts of the Western world, as we have learned, they were African Muslims, who came some before Columbus, some during the slavery period.

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There were indentured laborers, who also came in the 19th century. But really the first group, visible group that could establish itself in the 20th century, and build their centers and start to proselytize and they were really good at talking to Christians, it was the Ahmadiyya Qadiani movement. And this is an extremely important time point for us. Because up until today, they're very visible. This is their, their temple,

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which is in Vaughn in Toronto, look at this beautiful structure.

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So they have beautiful structures, all around the Western world, in some parts of Africa and Asia, and they still making the claims. They're very hostile to Muslims now in terms of our interactions with them. But this is the Qadiani, Ahmadiyya movement today. Now,

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this leads us again, as I mentioned, the movement across the Atlantic. Remember, the slavery and the colonies. So the British alt Neo first to do the Portuguese, the Spanish, the French than the British, the Dutch, moving people across in the slavery period from 1500 to 1870.

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So they're moving people across. And we recognize the fact and I want to just touch on this a little bit. This is Black History Month. So this sort of like ties in with for those of you who are not aware of African Muslims and, and about Africa.

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We recognize now that somewhere between 15 to 30%, of the African enslaved people and political prisoners brought to the West were Muslims. Some places that even more than a third were Muslims. And it's a beautiful story, to see the resistance that went on to see the scholars. It's coming out. And And despite what is happening, it is now coming to the surface. But unfortunately, African Muslims suffered greatly. It was a brutal form

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of slavery. You couldn't speak Arabic, you couldn't speak your native language. Religion is outlawed, you can't praise you can't fast. They force you to eat pork. You can't get married families broken up. And so for many African Americans, and I say that to mean, Canada, US, Central America, Caribbean and South America, Islam became a distant memory.

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It was there to a certain extent in some areas, but a distant memory.

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But slavery had to end and there was resistance that is called abolition and famous abolitionists Harriet Tubman. Again, it's Black History Month, very important woman to study and Frederick Douglass. And he's one of the reasons why they chose February to be black history month because he was born in February. And it's interesting because historians have traced his lineage and found that within his mother's family, the Bailey family, you will actually see Bella Bailey Bella, Bill Ali, that more than likely he comes from a Muslim background and he looks like a man from the full on nation, full Bay, or the Fulani nation. He has that Fulani look about him. That's Frederick

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Douglass. And so the heavy part of the slavery in the United States, they were underground railroads and people were escaping slavery and going to different parts of the Americas. But finally, it was abolished.

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And there was a great migration, because you have a huge population of African Americans in the South. But there are what they call Jim Crow laws that were instituted another form of slavery and brutality. The Ku Klux Klan, so over 6 million African Americans migrated from the rural south, to the urban Northeast and Midwest and the West. Between

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In 1916, and 1970, so very important time to study. It's a massive migration. Now what happens during this migration, you're dealing with people whose lifestyle has been taken away, their names have been changed. Their original religion is taken away.

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Their their families broken up. And so they are seeking not only physical redemption, but also a return to their roots are returned to Africa or returned to some sort of progress in their lives. Because what does freedom mean? If you cannot advance physically and spiritually as well. So there was an awakening.

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And Ultra black nationalist movements developed, we say black nationalism, we need people who were dedicated to raising the status of black people or people of African descent, especially the enslaved people who suffered during the slavery period. And so there's an individual named Marcus Garvey, another important person to mention during Black History Month, and it's interesting to note that one of his main teachers was Deuce Muhammad Ali. And he was a Sudanese, part Egyptian, and clearly an African man who identified with his African base, but a Muslim, practicing Muslim. Deuce Muhammad Ali had established a base in Detroit, Michigan. He was the mentor, one of the mentors of

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Marcus Garvey, extremely important person, and Marcus Garvey basically said, if there could be a religion, if I were going to take one, I take Islam.

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But he was trying to unite all people of African descent and raise their status in the Western world.

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And so the movement is now coming. People are looking and joining. And so within this movement, they're seeking Africa, they're seeking to get away from Christianity. Within this movement, black nationalists, what I would call pseudo Islamic Christian movements arise, hodgepodge, they're mixing things up because there's no base. The Christianity and secularism has destroyed people's background. One of the these these groups was the more science temple of America, founded by Timothy Drew, later known as nobles rally. And here we have Prophet Leia Prophet number 17.

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Number 17. And this is, he was called prophet Noble Drew Ali. And that's a picture of him. And you see what his followers wrote. Prophet Noble Drew Ali blesses the Moors. Okay, so this is not something made upon him. This is their own records in their own understanding and belief.

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And he was originally Timothy drew Ali.

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Again, these are actual pictures of the individuals because of the time that we're dealing with. And he was born January 8 1886, in North Carolina, in the United States.

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The sources around his early life are fairly vague, it's not clear. But basically, what the clearest story and there's a number of reports is that his family

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were ex slaves from his father, you know, another up, but they were living in the area of the Cherokee Nation.

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This is the first nations native people. And so there was mixtures between African Americans and the First Nations people. So they were literally living on those tracks mixed into those areas. And that's another interesting discussion, because we have proof to show that there were African Muslims who even Came Before Columbus, and they actually mixed with the native population.

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But at 16, according to one of the reports, and there may be others as well.

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He joined a group of Romani people or what some called gypsies, a gypsy is not a nice work. So these Romani people were like nomadic groups that moved around. They were some in America, but especially in Europe and Eastern Europe, you'll find these Romani people and he traveled with them because they were actually originally from the Middle East,

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sometimes say even more toward India. And he traveled with a group of them to Egypt and to the Levant and the Middle East.

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According to some reports,

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he either worked as a circus magician, because the Gypsy groups are moving around. They literally moved with the surface.

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Excuse me.

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They literally moved with the circuses. And so he became like a magician in the circus. But there are other reports that said that his travel he was a merchant seaman.

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So through traveling around with these trade vessels, he was able to visit the Middle East, Egypt are different parts of the world.

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But according to what has come to us, some of it through his followers and other reports, he brought back a type of belief. And it has said about him that he met a priest of Egyptian magic.

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Okay, so this is important to remember the liar prophets. Go back to Kufa go back to even the the Shia in Kufa, Iraq, and how the magicians come in, and they distort. And so you'll see that Alchemist concept coming throughout, especially with the liar prophets, that's part of the delusion, the illusion with that is developed by them. And this priest, considered

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Timothy Dru to be a reincarnation of the Prophet Moses, Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him and other prophets.

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He was really impressed by by by Timothy Drew. And he gave him he opened up to him, what they call the last section of the Quran.

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And later, their movement called the Holy Quran, of the more science temple of America. And it's interesting because this book, you'll see what it says on the book today.

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The Holy Quran of the more science TEMPLE OF AMERICA seven, because seven is their key number. Remember that the seven is amongst the amongst the Shia. Right? Then it says, divinely prepared by the noble Prophet drew Ali.

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Okay, then it says, By the guiding of his father, God, Allah, the great God of the universe, to redeem man from his sinful and fallen stage of humanity back to the highest plane of life with his father, God, Allah. So you can see that they have gone off into an illusion.

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And this is based not upon what my opinion or your opinion is, it is based upon the Islam that came with the last messenger, Muhammad bin Abdullah alayhis salam after salatu wa Teslin. It's clear.

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So this is the book that he is claiming. And his followers took the name Bei,

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or you'll see a person named Khalid El, they put out like that Now obviously, this is a misunderstanding of Arabic as people who don't speak Arabic, and also Turkish. Because remember, now he was moving around in that area he ran into into the Turks, the Ottomans and Bay in those of you who are following the Turkish movies now, it's becoming very popular. So you will say

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or SMAD base of mid bass. So when you say that you mean

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your leader, your base, your soul time.

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But they took it as a family name. So you will see people in even in Canada, a singer Salome Bay, she's a very famous singer in Toronto, Canada, right and the Bay family in Detroit, Michigan. So you'll find this bay and L. This is what they took on as their names. And so he crafted together more science. And it is said to be a network of alternative spiritualities that focus on the power of the individual to bring about personal transformation through mystical knowledge of the divine within.

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So he's mixing up aspects of Islam, of Christianity, of Freemasonry, of rasa, culinary recirculation, religion,

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magic, he's mixing it up all together to come with this understanding of Morris science. And this is interesting because this picture here, this is in the early part of the 20th century. Not

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This is amazing, thinking about African Americans whose total culture was taken away.

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But look at what is happening to them.

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And so by the late 1920s, this began to spread, because people needed a direction in their lives. And so by the late 1920s, they had over 35,000 members, and 17 temples across the US, especially in

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the Midwest,

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of the United States. But he felt that Chicago that was his base, and it would be a new Mecca. But to his credit, he was trying to be he was non confrontational. And he was trying to uplift people through his teachings. But he crossed the line,

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he crossed the line by saying prophethood. And with prophethood, he is allowed to have as many wives as he's want, he can say what he wants to say, he has licensed because a prophet is with Sharia. And this is what we recognize Allah given. That's why we say, to break Muhammad Rasulullah in the Kalama, is very serious thing.

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You may have the good intentions underneath. But when you cross that line when the devil comes to your mind, and then confuses you, and then visions of grandeur comes into the person's life. And so

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this hodgepodge comes about, and this is amazing, amazing for those who are studying the history of Islam in America, this picture here on the left, this is a convention taking place. In America, I believe it was in Chicago, and this is October 15 1617 1819 2019 28.

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More Science Temple of America. And what does it say under it, Prophet, Noble Drew Ali, founder. And there he is, in the middle of the picture with his hand, on his chest.

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Various, but it's amazing for those who understand the culture of African Americans look at this picture.

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They are dressed in eastern clothing, the women are covering up.

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The men have closed the clothing of the Arab world or the Turkish world, they're wearing the fence, the fence became very common. Amongst them, some would wear black faces, some were red faces. And to the right here is temple number nine in Chicago. This is an impressive building. Now you can see that churches that were being abandoned, were being taken over, especially in the black community. That's a very impressive building.

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And so this is the movement, how that was spreading at that time.

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Now, a number of conflicts went on inside because they did not have divine guidance. And you know, there's a lot of ego involved. It, there was a breakaway, with some of his lieutenants, one of them was was killed. Drew Ali was not around at the time, but he was imprisoned. This is a 1929. But shortly after his release, he passed away.

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And so he passed away, leaving a legacy of alternative culture,

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in the name of Islam.

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And so he's a very critical person, if you're studying Islam in America, but at the same time, we have to recognize the fact that he's one of the liar prophets. And this is important for his followers to move on. There are many young people who are still impressed by the fence and the alternative culture, but they need to move on into mainstream Islam, which you'll see amongst his followers, Professor is the Dean was one of His followers, moved on and went to the to the east and really learned Arabic and came back. And from him, you'll see our listener will Gemma in the black community being developed.

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But this is a key point that comes on with

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Drew Ali, who was known to his people as a prophet, but he hasn't been there.

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So with this saw, I want to open up the floor. We covered a lot of ground with these two movements. And I want to open up the floor for any questions that anybody may have. We're going to move out

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here, let me just take this down.

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so I want to open up the floor to see if there's any questions in the chat

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that anybody had concerning

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today's lesson, the floor is open for any questions.

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So if you have anything, put it into the put it into the chat room

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and then you know we can continue on

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Okay, so the floor is open for any questions that anybody may have. I just want to

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Okay, now

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one question coming from Orlando Rosario JazakAllah, khair. Saudi Kamal Lando, you Muslims to all the brothers and sisters? Could it have been possible for a conspiracy by secret societies to create schisms and people so that when true Islam came, they would be confused about Islam? Definitely, definitely, we can see. Now, remember, these secret societies you will see from way back in the time of Kufa, they're usually connected to a type of force. It's usually some sort of Sun garden, it's really shaytaan. Because remember, that the devil shaytaan is from the jinn. And so the jinn are created from smokeless fire and the gin inspire people and inspire all of these secret societies. So

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directly through the societies, this is one of the methods being used in order to take people off the path. And you can see the innocent people, African Americans coming out of the South who want to go back to their culture. Many of them have Islamic roots, especially in Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, and they want to go back to their roots. So a false door is opened.

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Okay, and then giving in May Sonic teachings and, and confusing people. So they're not really on the path. They think they're on the path, but they're not really on the path. Okay.

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Other questions?

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One is from Malaysia for non Muslim who's ready to embrace Islam? They get excited and follow the innovative paths. Besides to our how do we alert them? Or how do we do a self check? Now one of the important things is not to be hard on people.

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And the promises seldom used to say to his followers, Bushido will add to Nafi do, yes, zero will add to us Sado. He said, give glad tidings be positive, don't be negative, don't drive people away. So when you're dealing with somebody who's off the path shows them love. Show them the true Islamic message within your life.

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And through love and kindness,

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their eyes, inshallah will open up, we got to be firm, and tell what the truth is, but do it in a kind, soft way. The problem is that many brothers and sisters who get the zeal and who realize that, yes, these things are not true, and we've got to stop it. They get harsh on people. So they end up driving people away from the truth. And this is a mistake and is not the way of Prophet Muhammad SAW Salah does not his way.

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Okay, so we need to check ourselves and our character, and to be able to call people through art through our character through our actions and through our love. And then with the proper explanation, and this is where history comes in. Because many people, when you deal with history, they listen to you, because you're not attacking them physically or mentally. Let's go to history. And so when we bring that up,

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it can become very clear. Now, our question also came a comment I've met some Muslim African American brother who were on the Sunday Well, Gemma i with the last name base. So this is something that people have maybe inherited from their families.

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So the same way that we bring in names from Christianity or other ways, there are people who were originally part of the more science, and then they accepted Islam, and the last last name was Bay. Now to educate the person.

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It is important to explain to them what Bay actually means. Because if they understood what they meant, they might even change their name, because it's not used as a name. It's not the name of a family. It's a title. It's like saying sir or governor

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also time like that it's a title. Vice President. So you say base.

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Right? So this is important as well.

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And the it's also mentioned about the 5% is nation. And so this is another group that we will inshallah be going on to, as we go further in understanding this

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there's a number of comments that are coming in.

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And one is saying, I remember in the 70s seen the Koran we as young Muslims on Sunday Gemma with a bound, bound at this chord and

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used by the Nation of Islam, yes to the Mohammed Ali version of the Quran at the time and I can say that coming into Islam in 1970 it was the best English translation even in terms of the binding and the pages and everything so we all had it but it wasn't later to we started understanding Islam and reading the footnotes and even the translation, go to the section on Jesus. And then and then you'll see where they come in with the Qadiani.

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Okay, so let's go further on.

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questions coming in, but it's not the people of the book, what we believe in Allah.

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Okay, I'm trying to find a question here.

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One sister is saying so much confusion, may Allah protect us from at all and keep us steadfast on the Quran? Yes, I mean, you know, go back to the basis of the deen. You see, many times we spend too much time understanding the wrong ways. Not Islam. Islam is Islam or miss Lam, or the other forms, we need to study Islam. So we need to go back to our foundations. The stronger you get within your foundations is the clearer everything will become. The Prophet SAW Selim said Tarak to come, Allah Mahajan, Al Bayda Lu hawk and the Hadiya. Lawyers ego Anna Illa Halleck. He said, I left you on a clear way. It's night is like it's day.

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And nobody, anybody who follows the one who goes off is the one who's going to destruction. So once you understand it, go to the root of our religion, and things will come clear. The problem is today is that they did the forces of evil they've tried to to cover things up to veil it with confusion that is the way so it's important for us to go through the veils, and that is with first two are praying to Allah Azza wa Taala constantly for hedaya guidance, making Estacada purifying our hearts, learning the Arabic language going to our sources. That means learn the science of Hadith. Understand the Quran, don't just read the Quran for tilava. For recitation, study the meaning of the

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This is all important as we come toward Ramadan, get the whole package, study Hadith study Sierra, the life of the provinces elements so important. He is ban. He is the walking and talking quartet. So the more we understand this life is the clearer everything will become for us as well.

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So the floor is open for any other questions that anybody may have. I don't know if anything else is in

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the section.

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For those who are coming in, you know, late

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you'll be able to get this through the islam.ca It'll be on YouTube as well, if you're not registered with us, but try to register and also you'll find it on the YouTube inshallah. So we can make this clear.

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Yes, so Alhamdulillah I think we've reached a good point at this junction. And if there are no other questions that anybody has, we'll be moving on in Sharla next week, to see how this develops within the Americas itself and you'll be surprised the things that have gone on and then we'll see, you know, in the 20th century, the liar profits. We want to look at it through this there's a lot of angles

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that you can take. But this is an important angle angle because we're clear. Yo La ilaha illAllah Muhammad Doris wa sallam that is clear what happened to the Prophet and the first generations, it's clear. And so you need clarity we need fresh water to drink from in order to avoid polluted water, the polluted water that has come in the name of Islam. So we pray that Allah subhanaw taala would show us the truth. Make it clear to us for what it is, and keep us from falsehood and make us stay far away from it. And may Allah subhanaw taala protect our children. And this Anwar had unite us May Allah guide those who had the wrong guidance. Those who may have come in through the more science

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those who may have come into the different movements. May Allah guide them to the truth, because everybody makes mistakes. We all make Toba repentance there's a way for everybody. May Allah guide those who didn't have the guidance, and forgive us, those who have the truth, but did not live live up to it in the way that they should have. I leave you with these thoughts, aka dot Juana And Alhamdulillah. Rob Bell Rabbil Alameen wa salam ala Hautala say that Muhammad Ali he was happy he were Baddeck mycelium was Salam alaykum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh

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