Abdal Hakim Murad – AlGhazali Paradigms of Leadership

Abdal Hakim Murad
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So,

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if there's been any unifying

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thread in this cook's tour of some very

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far flung human corners of the history of

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this, gigantic diverse

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Ummah. I guess it has been that,

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this principle of leadership,

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a very modern, really un Islamic

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category,

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is something that,

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can be applied, but only indirectly

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to certain people who, from a secular optic,

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would be regarded as leaders, leaders of jihad,

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leaders of thought, leaders of

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iftar,

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leaders

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of their own way within Islam, the kind

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of William Williamson approach. We've seen a number

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of stormy petrels. Is there a a unifying

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principle? Well, I think that as we began,

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we should end by recognizing that the modern

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conception of leadership,

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is incompatible

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with the Islamic view simply because it excludes

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the possibility of tawfiq and divine agency.

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The prophetic model itself

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is not a model of leadership in the

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sense that would make sense, say, to the

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Judge Business School or the Palace of Westminster,

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because,

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his leadership, alayhis salatu wassalam, is a leadership

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that was thrust

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He didn't make a large inaugural

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address,

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lapping up

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the flash photography.

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He was reluctant. He did not wish for

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this,

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responsibility,

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and we saw the famous,

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sound hadith

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in which he says,

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do not ask for leadership.

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Isn't our life nowadays predicated on filling in

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forms and asking for promotion and nagging our

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boss and looking for a better job?

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How does

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that cohere at all with that very absolute

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prophetic

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commandment.

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And in their varied ways, we have seen

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that

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the leadership paradigms

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that we have mapped out in the history

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of Islam are people whose success

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consists in the fact that they weren't really

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interested in glory.

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It just kind of happened as a side

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effect

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of their journey, but it was not their

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destination.

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Hopefully, that's been clear, but, of course, so

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many others, thousands, thousands of other individual leaders

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in the history of this Ooma, those whole

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centuries and whole cultural realms that we haven't

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yet,

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broached,

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would make this clear

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that, the one is a model of leadership

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through ego,

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pharaonic leadership we might say, the only paradigm

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recognized now.

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And the other is the leadership that comes

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about

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when that is subjugated, and

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the nafs is overcome as the false self,

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which means really negating modern ideas of

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individualism.

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And the true self, which is the Ruhr,

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deeply buried

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beneath layers of

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rubbish in the hearts of most of us

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nowadays,

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is activated,

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and

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whether that person wills it or not, carries

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that person up.

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So it's a defiance of gravity. It is

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the influence of heaven,

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as it were, melting the dew. The dew

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doesn't get the choice, but it moves upwards

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because of the power of what is happening

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and its own, inherent

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nature.

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So this, of course, presents us moderns, those

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who are flying desks in a modern

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company,

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or university,

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or parliament with a real paradox.

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What is,

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the legitimacy

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of what we take to be our

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natural right, wanting to see our hard work

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rewarded and to

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slither up the greasy pole,

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competing with others.

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This doesn't seem to be the Islamic model

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at all, ever. This kind of Darwinian paradigm,

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which prevails in modern capitalism, is not something

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that we respect.

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It's not that there mustn't be people who

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lead,

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because the hadith goes on to say, because

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if you are given it

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without asking for it, you will be given

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success

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in it.

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But if you

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achieve it through asking for it, it will

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be given authority over you.

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In other words, you'll be subject to its

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rules and its

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competitive dog eat dog mindset.

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The spiritual hardening,

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the kingship of the ego will inevitably eat

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you alive.

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And you can see that

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as power

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corrupts,

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not just in politics, but in any other

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aspect of life that we see it in.

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Brexit negotiations, a ridiculous circus of damaged,

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naked

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egos

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squabbling with one another. We see it with

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people who are swallowing their own political convictions

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for the sake of promises of cabinet positions

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under Hunt or Johnson, and it's very unedifying.

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It's the endless human zoo of the ego,

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the animalistic.

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It's kind of naked and obvious

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and unifying and ominous, of course, because those

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are not people who are going to be

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given telferic from heaven. So our paradigm is

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really different as we've seen, and we need

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somehow

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at least to be aware of that

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as we move through the world. That ours

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is a radical,

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discordant,

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dissident perspective as it has to be because

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we believe strongly in the divine omnipotence,

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something which doesn't occur to most authors of

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CVs or readers of CVs. It's it's that

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alien principle

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that nonetheless,

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looking at the history of the Ummah is

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that which

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makes things happen.

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So

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we began with that,

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disorienting thought,

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maybe even that humbling thought.

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Maybe it even coincides with our sense that

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however well laid our plans may be, they

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tend to go astray.

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Perhaps we have the wisdom to recognize that

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it is Allah's plans alone,

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which are an accurate map of the future,

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and our own are just

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vain and incompetent,

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usually egotistic dreamings.

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Maybe as we go through life, we have

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the humility and the wisdom to witness that,

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maybe through painful setbacks.

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But, in the context of

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our own sense of how we do things

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in this current social matrix, where everything is

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Darwinian.

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Dog eats dog,

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devil take the hindmost

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the American dream,

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means that there are some people who don't

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make it to the top and live a

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nightmare,

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end up in prison, or as members of

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a despised ghetto community for whom there is

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very little,

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mobility. There isn't a dream without the nightmare.

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And,

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with the growth of what they call the

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precariat in modern Britain, we're seeing that as

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well.

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Lots of people for whom this hugely competitive

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and heartless animalistic

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lure of the jungle view of how leadership

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is achieved

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are the left behind

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and end up in situations of of considerable

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personal and familial and economic distress. And that

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gulf is widening all the time partly because

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of this deficient and Darwinian and ultimately heartless

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vision of

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how to get to the top, how to

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assume positions of a manner

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and responsibility.

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It's an ugly process,

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But,

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because it

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releases our lowest,

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most,

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avid energies,

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has created a civilization

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that is of enormous, perhaps unprecedented

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power, that its energy sources, the lower part

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of us, not the higher. And we will

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see what its long term outcomes

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might be.

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In any case,

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what I want to do today is to

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look at somebody who is kind of,

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a paradigm

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for somebody who actually

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abandoned

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the slippery poles, seeing it for what it

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is,

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and decided to,

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turn within.

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And, of course, this has happened to very

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many people in the history of the OMA,

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but in a sense, in his life, it

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becomes the defining

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act of his,

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resume. This, of course, is Hochat al Islam

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al Ghazali,

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of whose life we remember particularly his

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crisis, his disillusionment,

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and his climbing down from the pole.

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He'd already reached the top in order to

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go off in

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humble, dervish like poverty,

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taking the hippie trail,

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wandering off, looking for truth,

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doing all of those,

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prophetic,

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but,

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not leadership

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like things. So I want to close this

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series. Who knows? If there's good feedback, we

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might look at some more

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people next year,

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because it's quite a good way of getting

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into certain principles in religion by seeing how

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they have,

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interacted with and been

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bodied forth in actual human biodata.

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It's an accessible way of looking at principles.

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But in the case of Imam Ghazali, what

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I want to do is not just go

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over the

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details of his life again because you've seen

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the movie, and no doubt this is

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familiar already, but rather to see,

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what we might learn

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if we are to address this

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current crisis,

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that afflicts the soul

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whenever we

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seek to better ourselves,

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whenever we

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write

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that CV.

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I'm a great team player, and I really

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enjoy new challenges, and these are my hobbies.

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And they're all the same, because the system

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tends to produce

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what sociologists call them monoculture.

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Because it's a math culture, everything ends up

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being the same. And you can

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download a standard CV from the Internet with

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all of those stupid phrases,

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and in a sense, you have to do

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that. You can't say, actually, I'm not a

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good team player, and I get tired easily.

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And I have unusual ideas, and I rock

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the boat, and a lot of people don't

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like me to can't do that. There's no

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way in which Ikhla, sincerity, a genuine self

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betrayal required religiously.

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Remember, you're not allowed to sell a house

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in Islam unless you indicate all of its

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defects to the buyer. We're quite quite

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narrow in our moralism.

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So this

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economic leadership model, which of course infects and

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corrupts politics as well,

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of people just making things up and making

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promises and flattering

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themselves,

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is something,

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which we view as very considerable

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disquiet and distaste. But then,

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hey. How do you write a CV if

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you need a job?

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There are certain practical considerations.

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We know what our ideals are. They are

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the traditional ideals of sacred humanity shared by

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people in other traditions as well.

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But how do we live by them

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in a world that is,

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fanatically materialistic?

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Well, let's,

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try and address this by taking a step

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back,

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and looking at

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what and where we are as

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believers,

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as people who are still interested

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in what is behind

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the surface of things,

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at this particular,

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in many ways, unsettled and extreme point of

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human history.

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Just about everything is unsettled. Even the natural

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world is unsettled, which is really new for

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human beings.

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It's interesting,

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for those who are considering their identity as

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minorities

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in the middle of this sort of mammon

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civilization,

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to reflect on what has been done to

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them.

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To what extent are we actually in continuity

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with the sacred past? And to what extent

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are we just a kind of mildly Islamic

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or eccentric version of

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the mainstream Western machine?

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Worth thinking about that.

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What where really are our roots?

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Well,

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recently, I went for the first time to

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the new Bukhary Galleries at the British Museum.

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And this is the heart of the Islamic

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Art

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displays at the British Museum.

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2 big rooms, which, thanks to a Malaysian

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donor family, have been handed over to the,

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presentation

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of some of Islam's great treasures.

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And of course, it's all

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incomparable, and it's about the busiest gallery next

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door. There's the amazing Anglo Saxon and Celtic

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stuff, which is also

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pretty astonishing

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when you think of the dark ages or

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pretty

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pretty shining, some of those things. But

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the Islamic gallery, even though Islam is kind

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of the paradigm of that which makes everybody

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kind of anxious,

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is it safe to go and Islamic. Oh

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my god. Where is that adjective normally used

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in the media? 99 times out of a

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100 or a 100 times out of a

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100, it's attached to something scary. But

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they go in, and they go in because

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it is the luminous heart

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of the museum. The ancient Egyptian stuff is

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fun, and children look at the mummies and

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this all of that.

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The Elgin Marbles,

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there's some people in there, but

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alright.

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I guess lumps of the Parthenon,

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alright. More,

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a kind of

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status experience to look at those,

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like going to a particularly

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difficult experimental

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modern opera. Something to talk about the dinner

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party in Islington,

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but after 2 hours

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of serialist

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evocations

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of sonic chaos.

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The kind of enjoyment factor might diminish, but,

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hey, it's something to talk about. I went

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to the new Philip Glass

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opera. Yeah. I had really good reviews, didn't

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it?

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It's it's all about you know, it's like

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birdsong. You just produce this chatter that demonstrates

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your place in the

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social

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matrix, but,

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intrinsically, it may not,

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do much for you.

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But, when you go to those Islamic galleries

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okay. So the world's great city

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has its great museum, and at the center

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of the great museum, there's these

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galleries, and there you see

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the Qur'an's and the carpets and the manuscripts

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and the,

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glassware, and everybody is crowding. You have to

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wait to get,

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to see some of the stuff because it's

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so busy.

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That's an interesting question. What is it about

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the artifacts of our civilization, which presumably body

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forth the world view and the spiritual states

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of the craftsmen who are producing that stuff

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that everybody nowadays in 21st century individualistic

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mammon land finds

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so delightful.

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An interesting question, even though it's Islamic.

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Isn't that like Islamist?

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We're brought up

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to have certain reflexes about that, but people

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can't get enough of that. But what you

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don't see there, and this is perhaps the

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most interesting thing in the Bukhary galleries,

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is many Muslims.

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That's really also an interesting cultural statement.

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Lots of Japanese and Chinese,

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and

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American tourists, and Europeans, and Dutch, and English

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kind of lapping up

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all of this stuff, and looking at the

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Qurans, and the woodwork, and the fritware, and

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the mameluke glass, and it's it's all astounding.

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But even though one in 7 Londoners is

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a Muslim,

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maybe 1 in a 100 visitors to the

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Bukhary Gallery is Muslim, but they don't always

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seem to be the most religious one. So

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that's a kind of interesting

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reflection on our state.

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Where do we really belong?

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Are we actually

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more comfortable in Starbucks, or watching Wimbledon, or

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doing some sort of purely Western thing? And

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when we see the extraordinary

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cultural,

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summit achieved by the ancestors of most Muslims

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in London, we're kind of,

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a bit uncomfortable.

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The world's greatest fritware

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fritware? Is that Islamic brother? What's fritware? Is

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this haram?

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We really don't know. Even though your average

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kind of chattering class is an intern person,

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probably has some in his home, and he

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can tell you the difference about the or

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Islamic carpets on his floor, but we aren't

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in that space.

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That's an interesting,

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condemnation,

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I guess,

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that we complain so much about hostility to

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the east and to our heritage,

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but we're not really inhabiting our heritage. We

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don't know it. We don't we don't seem

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to be interested.

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And it's the same at the Victoria and

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Albert Museum, where they have some

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equivalently amazing things. You don't see many London

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Muslims there. Even the kind of high flying

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city types

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who maybe rub shoulders with people who do

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go to galleries, but, no, it's not not

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what we do.

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So we begin with this interesting sense of,

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a consensual

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divorce,

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that probably the the default demography of London

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Muslims is probably 60% of cases subcontinental.

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And you could say that the deep culture

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of Islam in the subcontinent

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may be the greatest summit of human civilization.

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How do you measure these things in terms

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of the music,

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the food, the textiles,

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the architecture?

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Yeah. Taj Mahal is the world's number one

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tourist

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destination. That culture,

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their ancestral culture,

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certainly beats anything that,

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the British did in India, for heaven's sake.

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No no comparison at all.

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But the new generation

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do not inhabit that. Don't respond to it.

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Find it all a bit kind of

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disquieting.

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They leave it to the white folks to

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get have Islamic art in their homes. Whatever

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it is,

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odd. That's an interesting circumstance,

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that despite the religiosity

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of much of subcontinental

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London Islam,

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there doesn't seem to be much interest

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in pride in that staggering North Indian,

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Mughal,

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Khaledid, whatever it is, heritage. They just don't

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much respond to it or want to know

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much about it and talk to the young

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people.

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And they can't name any of those rulers,

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and it's just some kind of

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odd Arabian Nights exotic thing that nobody ever

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tells them about, because their culture is just

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the modern culture of

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the Biryani,

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the Khattam, the aunties,

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that world.

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But the greatness of that civilization,

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which could be a very good way of

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vindicating

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their culture.

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It's something that they choose

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not to know about or they've never been

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exposed to it.

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One great way of dealing with Islamophobia

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is pointing out the popularity of Islamic art.

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But because it's not popular amongst ourselves, that

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becomes a slightly problematic

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argument. We don't respond to it much now.

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An oddity.

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I remember once

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walking with my late father through,

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Benelkastrein

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Street in,

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Cairo.

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Cairo

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has the world's highest density of medieval monuments.

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Astonishing.

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And there on all sides are these staggering

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sort of,

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Memeluk Cathedral scale

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miracles,

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and he's blown away.

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And then he says, where did these people

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go?

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This is amazing. Where where did they all

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go?

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Good question.

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They're not doing those things in Egypt any

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longer or anything like. They build a few

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shopping malls maybe and hotels for tourists, but

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that, no.

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Even when they build a mosque, it's not

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that. It's a kind of

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embarrassed,

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pastiche

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with a few half remembered

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stereotypical

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motifs. They don't relate to that.

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So that's an interesting,

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if rather dispiriting,

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realization.

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The religion goes on, the civilization

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is defunct.

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The elites, particularly in Muslim lands,

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are not in any way in continuity with

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the world view and the cultural forms of,

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the

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historic elites.

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Sometimes the working classes are in continuity with

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the values that you might have seen 500

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years ago in Cairo,

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Lucknow, or wherever, but the elites, no.

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Neither do they particularly

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wish to reengage with that stuff, which is

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a shame

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because they need,

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a PR break.

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But they're not really going to use that

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stuff because it no longer speaks to them.

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So that's one,

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rather sobering realization about the precarity,

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the oddness of our situation

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that we no longer represent a civilization,

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really.

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But there's lots of piety around. But generally,

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our lives tend to be well, we pray

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and we fast

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and we have a kind of Asian style

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colorful,

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tinsley, nikar.

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But basically, the substance of our lives is

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is a kind of Western thing.

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And that,

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dissonance

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produces many of the discomforts in the

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contemporary Muslim soul. And on the modern, the

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real side of it, this,

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aspirational model of leadership is

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coercive to the soul because because it's not

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natural for the believer to get to the

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top by trampling others underfoot and by boasting

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about his or her real or imagined,

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skills.

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So

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we,

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recognize this, but then we also recognize that

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the elites

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and those Muslim diasporas in the West

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that should be proud of their ancestors, but

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in practice don't seem interested at all,

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have been dislocated

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from colonial experiences, post colonial,

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inferiority complexes

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in favor of a narrative,

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that seemed, certainly the 19th, early 20th century,

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to be absolutely insuperable.

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The traditional monchi

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goes to the new railway station in Lucknow

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for the first time, and there is this

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enormous black

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dragon of a steam engine, and he feels,

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oh, we'll never compete with this civilization.

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And that complex begins,

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and the,

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bifurcation

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between religion and civilization

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becomes a kind of sting in the soul

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of very many, perhaps most Muslims. Very few

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people are serenely and uncomplicatedly

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just a part of the narrative of Muslim

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civilization

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any longer. They're all kind of discontinuities

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and compromises and tensions that

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agitate people's souls inevitably,

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cognitive dissonance.

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So that was

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the white man has this enormous steaming machine.

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I just got my old horse at home.

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We're we're we're done for.

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That narrative of progress

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with its, shall we say, fatalism.

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In other words, this is inevitable.

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A social Darwinism.

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Just as Darwin said that we begin with

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primordial

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sludge, and then we produce,

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well, people like himself

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wearing a top hat and playing bridge, obviously,

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the climax of a 1000000000 years. Who could

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deny that?

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This idea of

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despite

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the meaninglessness

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of stuff and the fact that stuff is

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taken to be all that exists,

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there is this bordering principle,

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becomes a kind of surrogate religion. So people

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think, well, eschatology,

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head and *, that's difficult. But, hey. Things

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are getting better.

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This quasi religious miracle of

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order emerging from natural chaos is really exciting.

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And we're gonna base our music and our

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art and our sense of ourselves,

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our optimism

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on this. The strange

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collaboration

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of atheism and materialism on the one hand

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with the kind of optimism

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about the human future,

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is an interesting

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sign of our times

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and sometimes

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accelerated.

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When 20th century man wanted to step on

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the gas,

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he tended to go for something like Nazism

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or communism, which were just attempts to speed

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up natural selection

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and make us better at high speed.

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It didn't really work too well, but we

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still believe in the underlying

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teleology of getting better

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progressism,

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what Rene Guenon calls,

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the fatalism of progress. You can't do anything

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about it. Things just are going to get

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better and

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go along with it. And perhaps retain a

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few fragmentary nice things from your grandmother's

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pieties, but basically,

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the future is,

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is is the reality.

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So that

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was

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the counternarrative

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to the Islamic civilizational narrative

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really until very,

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very, very recently,

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and even a generation ago, people like Francis

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Fukuyama, the idea of the end of history.

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The West has actually cracked it. We understand,

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the meaning of life, life, universe, and everything,

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and things are going to get better. Liberal

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democracy, science, secularism

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will prevail everywhere.

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As the iron curtain came down, that seemed

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to be inexorable. But now they tend to

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look a little bit,

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doubtful

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about all of this.

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And this is what makes being Muslim in

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our time

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particularly

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intriguing,

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if not particularly comfortable.

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So in the 19th century, the old narrative

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of the Mughals and the Ottomans, the great

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climaxes of everything

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collapsing. And people suddenly think, well, the white

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man has better cannons

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and representative government and human rights, and we're

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feeling really

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put upon by all of this. And we

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have to redefine Islam as we invented human

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rights. All the Koran very scientific and that

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kind of apologetic

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manipulation,

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which doesn't really convince anybody,

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or the sort of mad fundamentalist

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Luddite

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reaction, which is causing

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the the complete systemic

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implosion

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of an increasing number of Muslim societies and

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and countries now.

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Instead of that, we now have the other

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narrative,

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the narrative that said that it had the

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answers,

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itself

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imploding,

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not just because of the philosophical

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collapse of the of the enlightenment

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idea of how to get ethics

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into the postmodern

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relativization

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of everything, which very simply, very easily becomes

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the kind of

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nihilism or,

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relativism.

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But because of what science, which is the

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kind of the dominant jewel in the crown

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of the western alternative to the sacred paradigms,

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is now presenting.

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So

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yesterday, you might have seen, possibly on the

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BBC,

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Michelle Hussein,

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who comes to CMC sometimes. She's a kind

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of CMC

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supporter, a serious person,

00:29:01 --> 00:29:01

Interviewing

00:29:01 --> 00:29:02

James Lovelock.

00:29:03 --> 00:29:06

That's interesting encounter, not just because he's like

00:29:06 --> 00:29:08

5 times older than her. He's having his

00:29:09 --> 00:29:12

100th birthday this year, but still really coherent.

00:29:12 --> 00:29:14

You know, you wouldn't want to cross mental

00:29:14 --> 00:29:16

swords with him on a dark night. He's

00:29:16 --> 00:29:18

a very bright man. He's the one who,

00:29:18 --> 00:29:20

a couple of generations ago, came up with

00:29:20 --> 00:29:21

this Gaia hypothesis,

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which is popular in some sustainability green circles,

00:29:25 --> 00:29:28

which is the scientific reasons for regarding us

00:29:28 --> 00:29:29

as part of

00:29:29 --> 00:29:31

a planetary organism.

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A lot of people thought this was

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a kind of interesting idea, even though it's

00:29:36 --> 00:29:36

kind

00:29:37 --> 00:29:39

of obvious that the ecosystem is one

00:29:39 --> 00:29:42

unitary thing. But it was a helpful breakthrough

00:29:42 --> 00:29:44

at the time when people still thought of

00:29:44 --> 00:29:45

human beings as somehow categorically

00:29:46 --> 00:29:47

exceptional,

00:29:47 --> 00:29:50

and has been a leading campaigner for

00:29:50 --> 00:29:51

nuclear energy,

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and

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for what he calls rational displacement.

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It's worth thinking about if you have relatives

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in a Muslim country.

00:30:02 --> 00:30:04

Global warming is gonna hit the Muslim world

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much harder

00:30:06 --> 00:30:07

than it will,

00:30:07 --> 00:30:09

these frozen latitudes.

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And he says it's not going to be

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stopped by technology or by anything.

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And therefore, we need to adopt what he

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calls a process of rational displacement.

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Evacuate countries like Bangladesh and find other places,

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to put all of those people because you

00:30:27 --> 00:30:30

can't save those low lying places. New Orleans,

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don't bother.

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Pakistan

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is going to be destroyed by global warming

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because the Himalayan ice cap is coming to

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an end. It'll be uninhabitable

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20, 30 years. Don't even think about science

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coming up with a solution. These places are

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toast.

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So rather dismal, but he sees things very

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much as a futurist.

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With, sufficient international cooperation, we can relocate to

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those populations. The countries will be gone, but

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the populations will be, I don't know, somewhere

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near

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Omsk in Siberia where they can grow oranges.

00:31:01 --> 00:31:03

This is the kind of

00:31:03 --> 00:31:05

prospect that he is,

00:31:05 --> 00:31:06

holding out.

00:31:07 --> 00:31:10

The optimism of some scientists is quite

00:31:12 --> 00:31:13

encouraging perhaps.

00:31:13 --> 00:31:15

In any case, what he was talking about

00:31:15 --> 00:31:17

with Michelle Hussein yesterday, and she was kind

00:31:17 --> 00:31:19

of a little bit

00:31:19 --> 00:31:21

gobsmacked by this, is artificial intelligence.

00:31:22 --> 00:31:25

He says the real solution to the wipeout

00:31:26 --> 00:31:28

of Homo sapiens by climate change, which which

00:31:28 --> 00:31:31

he sees as inevitable, is going to be

00:31:31 --> 00:31:34

that there's nothing special about us. We're just

00:31:34 --> 00:31:37

one species amongst 10,000,000. We'll come to an

00:31:37 --> 00:31:38

end, but what's important

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is

00:31:40 --> 00:31:40

consciousness.

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That's the only thing that's interesting about us,

00:31:44 --> 00:31:47

And we're gonna produce consciousness through artificial intelligence

00:31:47 --> 00:31:50

that he says will be 10000 times as

00:31:50 --> 00:31:53

quick as the the pathetic meat machine that

00:31:53 --> 00:31:54

is the human brain.

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And this new cybernetic consciousness, which will replace

00:31:58 --> 00:31:58

ourselves,

00:31:59 --> 00:32:00

will go on forever because it won't be

00:32:00 --> 00:32:03

particularly dependent on any biological,

00:32:04 --> 00:32:04

infrastructure.

00:32:05 --> 00:32:07

So at the age of a 100, he's

00:32:07 --> 00:32:07

still

00:32:08 --> 00:32:10

looking to the future, and Michelle was kind

00:32:10 --> 00:32:13

of nodding, not wishing to be too impolite.

00:32:13 --> 00:32:15

But, of course, it's a,

00:32:15 --> 00:32:16

shockingly

00:32:16 --> 00:32:17

outrageous idea.

00:32:18 --> 00:32:21

But my point is that the old sort

00:32:21 --> 00:32:22

of Victorian

00:32:23 --> 00:32:26

Herbert Spencer idea of social Darwinism and progress,

00:32:26 --> 00:32:29

instead of these funny little sacred traditions and

00:32:29 --> 00:32:31

your mogul design and

00:32:31 --> 00:32:34

your meditative music, your contemplative

00:32:35 --> 00:32:35

civilization.

00:32:36 --> 00:32:38

Get on board this train, which is going

00:32:38 --> 00:32:40

to the real paradise, which is the great

00:32:40 --> 00:32:43

future. Land and milk of milk and honey,

00:32:43 --> 00:32:46

which science and reason and liberal democracy are

00:32:46 --> 00:32:48

opening up to a hitherto benighted

00:32:49 --> 00:32:50

human race.

00:32:51 --> 00:32:52

No longer the case.

00:32:53 --> 00:32:55

Now if the science itself is saying, well,

00:32:55 --> 00:32:56

actually,

00:32:57 --> 00:32:57

we've,

00:32:58 --> 00:32:59

erased our future,

00:33:00 --> 00:33:02

But something else is gonna take over, so

00:33:02 --> 00:33:03

it doesn't really matter.

00:33:04 --> 00:33:06

There's nothing special about us anyway.

00:33:07 --> 00:33:09

Then that whole narrative of progress

00:33:10 --> 00:33:11

is no longer

00:33:11 --> 00:33:12

the irresistible

00:33:13 --> 00:33:15

seductress that it was for

00:33:16 --> 00:33:18

Indians and Egyptians a 100 years ago, but

00:33:18 --> 00:33:20

it's looking as if it's run into the

00:33:20 --> 00:33:20

buffers

00:33:21 --> 00:33:23

and is far more threatening

00:33:24 --> 00:33:25

and inhuman

00:33:26 --> 00:33:27

than anything that

00:33:28 --> 00:33:30

even the most aberrant traditional sacred civilization

00:33:31 --> 00:33:32

dreamt up. It is

00:33:32 --> 00:33:34

genuinely biocidal,

00:33:34 --> 00:33:37

threatening not just ourselves, but most other life

00:33:37 --> 00:33:38

forms,

00:33:39 --> 00:33:39

outrageous.

00:33:41 --> 00:33:41

What

00:33:42 --> 00:33:44

Lovelock said was outrageous.

00:33:46 --> 00:33:47

So that's

00:33:47 --> 00:33:49

the kind of dialogue that we're having now.

00:33:50 --> 00:33:52

Not the dialogue that say,

00:33:53 --> 00:33:55

Jumaladin Avrani had a 100 years ago with

00:33:55 --> 00:33:57

Reynold at the College de France where it

00:33:57 --> 00:33:58

was,

00:34:00 --> 00:34:01

enlightenment,

00:34:01 --> 00:34:02

steam engines,

00:34:03 --> 00:34:04

the National

00:34:04 --> 00:34:04

Republic,

00:34:06 --> 00:34:06

the imperial

00:34:07 --> 00:34:09

vision of uplifting the colonies

00:34:10 --> 00:34:10

against

00:34:11 --> 00:34:13

just Jimaladin Afongani

00:34:13 --> 00:34:16

trying to justify Islamic civilization and not really

00:34:16 --> 00:34:18

making a very good fist of it.

00:34:18 --> 00:34:20

Now the dialogue is different. The dialogue is

00:34:20 --> 00:34:21

now between

00:34:22 --> 00:34:24

the completely crazy futurist,

00:34:26 --> 00:34:28

with his predictions of a utopia,

00:34:28 --> 00:34:29

but not for us.

00:34:30 --> 00:34:32

And on the other hand, Michelle Hussein with

00:34:32 --> 00:34:35

her Islamic thing, which is real, and her

00:34:35 --> 00:34:37

work at the BBC, and her desire for

00:34:37 --> 00:34:38

career projection

00:34:39 --> 00:34:42

progression, which is entirely legitimate. She's good at

00:34:42 --> 00:34:45

her children. That conversation is is very different

00:34:45 --> 00:34:47

to the conversation we were having a 100

00:34:47 --> 00:34:49

years ago. It it is more disquieting.

00:34:50 --> 00:34:52

And from the materialistic point of view, it's

00:34:52 --> 00:34:53

not nearly

00:34:54 --> 00:34:54

so triumphalistic.

00:34:55 --> 00:34:58

So my point is the simple one, which

00:34:58 --> 00:35:00

is that we find ourselves in a new

00:35:00 --> 00:35:00

situation.

00:35:01 --> 00:35:02

It's not just

00:35:02 --> 00:35:03

tradition and modernity,

00:35:04 --> 00:35:05

progress and conservatism.

00:35:06 --> 00:35:09

It is a model of life that for

00:35:09 --> 00:35:10

all of its failings,

00:35:10 --> 00:35:11

produced sustainable

00:35:12 --> 00:35:12

civilizations

00:35:13 --> 00:35:16

that believed in a higher reality and produced

00:35:17 --> 00:35:18

a staggering cornucopia

00:35:18 --> 00:35:21

of art, music, and other things that indicate

00:35:22 --> 00:35:25

the profound serenity and happiness of the souls

00:35:25 --> 00:35:26

that generated

00:35:27 --> 00:35:27

those artifacts

00:35:29 --> 00:35:30

against

00:35:30 --> 00:35:32

a global catastrophe,

00:35:32 --> 00:35:33

climate emergency,

00:35:34 --> 00:35:35

not to mention all of the other

00:35:36 --> 00:35:37

potential threats,

00:35:38 --> 00:35:40

that science represents. You should all go and

00:35:40 --> 00:35:43

watch Doctor Strangelove, which is Kubrick's greatest film,

00:35:43 --> 00:35:45

which is his kind of prophetic vision of

00:35:46 --> 00:35:47

human cleverness,

00:35:48 --> 00:35:48

outsmarting,

00:35:50 --> 00:35:51

human wisdom.

00:35:52 --> 00:35:55

If you don't know the story, it's, the

00:35:55 --> 00:35:57

head of an American nuclear bomber

00:35:57 --> 00:35:57

airbase

00:35:58 --> 00:35:59

who decides,

00:36:00 --> 00:36:01

that

00:36:01 --> 00:36:02

the

00:36:02 --> 00:36:05

virility of the American man is being compromised

00:36:05 --> 00:36:06

by the addition of

00:36:07 --> 00:36:07

fluoride

00:36:08 --> 00:36:10

to drinking water. And because of this evil

00:36:10 --> 00:36:11

conspiracy,

00:36:11 --> 00:36:13

he is going to bring down the establishment

00:36:13 --> 00:36:15

by launching his nuclear bombers against Russia. They're

00:36:15 --> 00:36:17

gonna launch a counter strike. The whole world

00:36:17 --> 00:36:18

will go up, but there won't be any

00:36:18 --> 00:36:21

more fluoride in our water, and the virility

00:36:21 --> 00:36:23

of the American man is going to be

00:36:23 --> 00:36:25

restored. It's kind of amusing,

00:36:27 --> 00:36:30

but it also is indicative of the kind

00:36:30 --> 00:36:32

of wonky paranoia,

00:36:32 --> 00:36:34

that exists, particularly on the other side of

00:36:34 --> 00:36:35

the Atlantic,

00:36:36 --> 00:36:37

as its finger

00:36:38 --> 00:36:39

drifts somewhere

00:36:39 --> 00:36:41

egotistically near,

00:36:41 --> 00:36:42

the red button.

00:36:43 --> 00:36:45

It's quite a prophetic, although it's a black

00:36:45 --> 00:36:48

comedy, really. We should all watch it as

00:36:48 --> 00:36:50

an example of a secular critique of

00:36:50 --> 00:36:51

of the

00:36:52 --> 00:36:55

catastrophic risks, that modernity and science can present

00:36:55 --> 00:36:57

to us. So

00:36:57 --> 00:37:00

so the point is the old progress in

00:37:00 --> 00:37:02

science and reason and human

00:37:03 --> 00:37:05

happiness against reaction, religion,

00:37:05 --> 00:37:07

sexism, conservatism of the family,

00:37:08 --> 00:37:09

primitivism,

00:37:09 --> 00:37:12

That dialect isn't really in place any longer,

00:37:12 --> 00:37:14

and things were a lot more complex,

00:37:15 --> 00:37:16

which means that religiosity

00:37:17 --> 00:37:18

of the Islamic option

00:37:19 --> 00:37:20

is about,

00:37:23 --> 00:37:24

not a kind of nostalgic

00:37:24 --> 00:37:26

retreat into grandma's

00:37:26 --> 00:37:27

pieties.

00:37:28 --> 00:37:29

But in the real world of work or

00:37:29 --> 00:37:30

whatever,

00:37:30 --> 00:37:31

you

00:37:31 --> 00:37:32

go along with

00:37:33 --> 00:37:35

the the the world view of the dominant

00:37:35 --> 00:37:36

civilization

00:37:36 --> 00:37:39

that has to involve us in a, a

00:37:39 --> 00:37:41

more radical and existential

00:37:42 --> 00:37:43

dissidents.

00:37:45 --> 00:37:47

Not the kind of blow yourself up in

00:37:47 --> 00:37:48

the street mad Al Qaeda,

00:37:49 --> 00:37:52

aberration, but something rooted in the spiritual

00:37:53 --> 00:37:54

depths of our civilization

00:37:54 --> 00:37:56

rather than just in our capacity to get

00:37:56 --> 00:37:57

really angry.

00:37:58 --> 00:38:00

So Imam al Ghazali comes in, and as

00:38:00 --> 00:38:02

I said, I don't want to go through

00:38:03 --> 00:38:04

the biodata. It's,

00:38:05 --> 00:38:06

pleasantly familiar.

00:38:07 --> 00:38:08

But,

00:38:09 --> 00:38:10

the the key

00:38:11 --> 00:38:14

tension in his life, of course, is

00:38:17 --> 00:38:18

the mind and the heart.

00:38:20 --> 00:38:22

Even when he was a teenager

00:38:22 --> 00:38:23

in

00:38:24 --> 00:38:25

Central Asia,

00:38:26 --> 00:38:29

during the day, he would attend

00:38:30 --> 00:38:31

the majlis of,

00:38:32 --> 00:38:34

Imam al Haramain al Juwaini,

00:38:35 --> 00:38:37

the greatest philosophical theologian

00:38:38 --> 00:38:41

in the world at the time, with the

00:38:41 --> 00:38:43

crack students of the age who'd come to

00:38:43 --> 00:38:45

sit at his feet from everywhere.

00:38:45 --> 00:38:46

And it was

00:38:47 --> 00:38:50

forms of the syllogism, the construction of arguments,

00:38:51 --> 00:38:51

analogy,

00:38:52 --> 00:38:52

very

00:38:53 --> 00:38:53

refined,

00:38:54 --> 00:38:55

elaborate

00:38:55 --> 00:38:56

mental gymnastics,

00:38:57 --> 00:38:59

which have their place in our civilization. We

00:38:59 --> 00:39:01

like to construct good arguments. We've always emphasized

00:39:02 --> 00:39:03

logic.

00:39:04 --> 00:39:04

And then

00:39:05 --> 00:39:08

the classes were over by the Zohar prayer,

00:39:08 --> 00:39:10

and he'd get on his donkey or his

00:39:10 --> 00:39:11

mule

00:39:11 --> 00:39:13

and trot off to the suburbs

00:39:14 --> 00:39:15

of the city,

00:39:16 --> 00:39:18

in order to sit with a Sufi,

00:39:19 --> 00:39:20

Abu Ali al Farmadi,

00:39:22 --> 00:39:22

where a different,

00:39:24 --> 00:39:25

sort of journey

00:39:26 --> 00:39:27

was being celebrated.

00:39:28 --> 00:39:30

Not the way of the mind, but the

00:39:30 --> 00:39:31

way of the heart.

00:39:32 --> 00:39:35

Not the way of logic chopping and demonstration,

00:39:36 --> 00:39:37

apodictic proofs,

00:39:38 --> 00:39:38

but instead,

00:39:39 --> 00:39:40

the affective,

00:39:41 --> 00:39:43

possibly that which is closer to what makes

00:39:43 --> 00:39:45

us most paradigmatically

00:39:45 --> 00:39:46

human.

00:39:47 --> 00:39:48

Daught in a rose garden.

00:39:49 --> 00:39:50

This is Persia

00:39:50 --> 00:39:52

after all. It's mostly poetry.

00:39:53 --> 00:39:54

It's ecstatic.

00:39:54 --> 00:39:56

People are sitting in a circle,

00:39:57 --> 00:40:00

and as it were, the metaphorical flagons of

00:40:00 --> 00:40:03

love are being passed around. You don't get

00:40:03 --> 00:40:06

that kind of intoxication in a logic class.

00:40:08 --> 00:40:10

It's dry, and it has to be dry.

00:40:10 --> 00:40:11

You have to exclude

00:40:12 --> 00:40:14

your humanity and your emotions from

00:40:15 --> 00:40:18

the rigorous intellectual construction of of arguments in

00:40:18 --> 00:40:19

law and in

00:40:21 --> 00:40:21

metaphysics.

00:40:23 --> 00:40:26

But in Faramad, it's gathering. It's the Sufi

00:40:26 --> 00:40:26

thing,

00:40:27 --> 00:40:29

and the Persian Sufi thing, which is the

00:40:29 --> 00:40:31

climax of that, civilization,

00:40:32 --> 00:40:33

certainly in terms of its literature.

00:40:35 --> 00:40:36

And that bifurcation

00:40:37 --> 00:40:39

was, of course, on everybody's mind,

00:40:41 --> 00:40:44

and leads to his famous crisis. Am I

00:40:44 --> 00:40:45

sincere?

00:40:45 --> 00:40:47

Why do I enjoy sitting in front of

00:40:47 --> 00:40:49

the best students in the Islamic world?

00:40:50 --> 00:40:52

Why am I accepting the patronage of Nizam

00:40:52 --> 00:40:53

al Mulk, the most powerful man in the

00:40:53 --> 00:40:54

world, probably?

00:40:56 --> 00:40:57

Why am I hobnobbing,

00:40:58 --> 00:40:59

walking the corridors of power,

00:41:00 --> 00:41:01

taking the state's,

00:41:02 --> 00:41:03

dinars,

00:41:06 --> 00:41:09

when quite possibly, I'm just digging my own

00:41:09 --> 00:41:11

spiritual and moral

00:41:11 --> 00:41:13

grave. I really enjoy my professorial

00:41:14 --> 00:41:14

chair

00:41:15 --> 00:41:16

and the Odeon Academicum

00:41:16 --> 00:41:18

that goes with it. And famously, in the

00:41:18 --> 00:41:20

middle of a lecture, he's kind of thunderstruck

00:41:21 --> 00:41:22

by this experiences

00:41:22 --> 00:41:24

what we would probably call a breakdown and

00:41:24 --> 00:41:25

just leaves

00:41:26 --> 00:41:26

to

00:41:27 --> 00:41:28

the consternation

00:41:28 --> 00:41:30

of his students who want him to

00:41:31 --> 00:41:32

finish the argument, but,

00:41:33 --> 00:41:34

he leaves.

00:41:36 --> 00:41:37

And he goes,

00:41:38 --> 00:41:40

well, not back to the rose garden, but

00:41:41 --> 00:41:43

God's rose garden, the wider world,

00:41:44 --> 00:41:46

which is where the believer

00:41:46 --> 00:41:50

finds his spiritual nourishment, because this is in

00:41:50 --> 00:41:50

the Quran.

00:41:51 --> 00:41:52

The Quran tells us

00:41:53 --> 00:41:54

that faith

00:41:54 --> 00:41:56

is gifted by heaven

00:41:56 --> 00:41:58

to those who humbly open their hearts to

00:41:58 --> 00:42:01

the signs of of God in the natural

00:42:01 --> 00:42:02

world and in human beings.

00:42:04 --> 00:42:06

That's the current argument. Argument from design, but

00:42:06 --> 00:42:08

not really philosophical, but rather

00:42:09 --> 00:42:09

existential.

00:42:10 --> 00:42:13

Shaking us and saying, leave aside all of

00:42:13 --> 00:42:14

your clever syllogisms.

00:42:15 --> 00:42:16

Look at all of this.

00:42:17 --> 00:42:18

Does it look as if it just

00:42:19 --> 00:42:20

emerged from some

00:42:20 --> 00:42:21

primordial

00:42:22 --> 00:42:22

nothing?

00:42:23 --> 00:42:25

Not very likely, is it? That's a kind

00:42:25 --> 00:42:28

of argument that's deeper than arguments. It it

00:42:28 --> 00:42:30

appeals to that which is most commonsensical

00:42:31 --> 00:42:32

and real about human beings.

00:42:34 --> 00:42:37

And incidentally, it's another thing for us to

00:42:37 --> 00:42:38

think about in our world,

00:42:39 --> 00:42:42

part of whose ethos has been human mastery

00:42:42 --> 00:42:43

of nature.

00:42:45 --> 00:42:48

We want to control nature.

00:42:48 --> 00:42:50

We queue up to get to the top

00:42:50 --> 00:42:51

of Mount Everest

00:42:52 --> 00:42:55

at vast expense and personal risk.

00:42:56 --> 00:42:57

Why should we want to do that? Because

00:42:57 --> 00:42:58

we want to stand on top of the

00:42:58 --> 00:43:01

world, and this makes us feel that we've

00:43:01 --> 00:43:03

dominated nature, and part of our civilization

00:43:04 --> 00:43:06

has said, that's how we will achieve happiness,

00:43:06 --> 00:43:07

because nature is

00:43:08 --> 00:43:10

threatening. It's got tigers in it. And,

00:43:11 --> 00:43:12

but there is,

00:43:13 --> 00:43:14

of course, in nature,

00:43:15 --> 00:43:16

in its threateningness,

00:43:16 --> 00:43:18

as well as in its

00:43:21 --> 00:43:21

soft rabbit

00:43:22 --> 00:43:22

aspects,

00:43:24 --> 00:43:25

a lesson for the soul.

00:43:28 --> 00:43:29

During Ramadan, I was in

00:43:30 --> 00:43:32

the Malay world, and

00:43:33 --> 00:43:35

somebody in this gathering said, look what I

00:43:35 --> 00:43:37

saw when I was driving.

00:43:37 --> 00:43:38

Had his phone.

00:43:39 --> 00:43:41

He'd been sitting behind the dashboard in the

00:43:41 --> 00:43:42

car, and the car stopped,

00:43:43 --> 00:43:44

and there was a tiger in front of

00:43:44 --> 00:43:45

his car.

00:43:46 --> 00:43:48

And the tiger had her cubs by the

00:43:48 --> 00:43:50

side of the road, and people had stopped

00:43:50 --> 00:43:52

just to look at this thing. What was

00:43:52 --> 00:43:55

interesting is you could immediately see the kind

00:43:55 --> 00:43:55

of,

00:43:56 --> 00:43:58

what he said, the majesty

00:43:59 --> 00:44:01

of this animal, and its complete

00:44:01 --> 00:44:02

existential

00:44:03 --> 00:44:05

indifference to our own egotistic

00:44:05 --> 00:44:06

cleverness. The

00:44:07 --> 00:44:09

the majesty of it just being a tiger

00:44:09 --> 00:44:11

and challenging us and making us realize our

00:44:11 --> 00:44:14

smallness. It was a sacred moment. And this

00:44:14 --> 00:44:15

is what the Quran is

00:44:15 --> 00:44:18

telling us. Even in something that could

00:44:18 --> 00:44:19

eat you,

00:44:20 --> 00:44:22

there is something that is going to spiritually

00:44:22 --> 00:44:24

bring you to life. And so the believers

00:44:24 --> 00:44:26

have always enjoyed

00:44:26 --> 00:44:26

nature.

00:44:27 --> 00:44:29

Muslims have always loved gardens,

00:44:30 --> 00:44:33

and we've always tried to bring the indicativity

00:44:33 --> 00:44:35

of nature into our

00:44:35 --> 00:44:37

homes and our sacred spaces.

00:44:38 --> 00:44:40

The mosque doesn't have pictures,

00:44:41 --> 00:44:42

but the mosque has

00:44:44 --> 00:44:44

indications

00:44:45 --> 00:44:46

of the geometric

00:44:46 --> 00:44:48

indicativity of nature.

00:44:49 --> 00:44:51

Islamic decorative art, which is the essence really

00:44:51 --> 00:44:52

of

00:44:52 --> 00:44:53

our

00:44:53 --> 00:44:55

architectural civilization,

00:44:55 --> 00:44:59

is about stylized vegetal motifs, tessellations,

00:44:59 --> 00:45:00

arabesques,

00:45:00 --> 00:45:04

the exploration of the strange platonic mystery of

00:45:04 --> 00:45:05

symmetry

00:45:05 --> 00:45:05

and,

00:45:06 --> 00:45:07

geometry

00:45:08 --> 00:45:09

brought to the surface.

00:45:10 --> 00:45:11

That's what Art does.

00:45:12 --> 00:45:14

It says, an infinitesimal

00:45:14 --> 00:45:16

distance behind the surface of things,

00:45:17 --> 00:45:19

which seem to be kind of messy,

00:45:19 --> 00:45:20

there is

00:45:21 --> 00:45:22

order, symmetry,

00:45:22 --> 00:45:23

perfection.

00:45:23 --> 00:45:26

There is a kind of platonic space where

00:45:26 --> 00:45:28

everything is ordered and geometry

00:45:28 --> 00:45:31

prevails, not just the snowflake, but the atom.

00:45:31 --> 00:45:34

And Muslim art has always sought to remind

00:45:34 --> 00:45:35

us of the orderliness

00:45:35 --> 00:45:36

of God's creation,

00:45:38 --> 00:45:40

and it it's very effective. And that's one

00:45:40 --> 00:45:41

reason why

00:45:42 --> 00:45:44

people like to crowd out those galleries at

00:45:44 --> 00:45:44

the British,

00:45:45 --> 00:45:46

Museum

00:45:46 --> 00:45:49

because on some level, they're being told

00:45:49 --> 00:45:52

there's something really interesting about the fact that

00:45:52 --> 00:45:53

creation is orderly

00:45:54 --> 00:45:56

rather than just you what you'd expect from

00:45:56 --> 00:45:57

a

00:45:57 --> 00:45:59

world without an order, which is

00:46:00 --> 00:46:02

either nothingness, which is the only logical thing

00:46:02 --> 00:46:04

to expect, but some kind of

00:46:05 --> 00:46:05

radical

00:46:06 --> 00:46:08

fractal chaos. But no, there is

00:46:08 --> 00:46:11

order. There are physical constants. There's the speed

00:46:11 --> 00:46:13

of light. There is gravity. There are triangles.

00:46:14 --> 00:46:16

There are 8 pointed stars. There is

00:46:17 --> 00:46:18

real order is part of the fabric of

00:46:18 --> 00:46:21

things. And that's what Doctor. Khan is saying.

00:46:22 --> 00:46:24

Science for people who have loved the deeper

00:46:24 --> 00:46:25

part of ourselves,

00:46:26 --> 00:46:27

which is activated

00:46:27 --> 00:46:28

through contemplation,

00:46:29 --> 00:46:31

not through cleverness. It's not really a function

00:46:31 --> 00:46:32

of IQ.

00:46:32 --> 00:46:35

It's a function of whether you can overcome

00:46:35 --> 00:46:37

the jumping thoughts and the distractions

00:46:37 --> 00:46:40

of the lower self, and allow the loop,

00:46:40 --> 00:46:43

the real self, to ponder these things

00:46:43 --> 00:46:45

and to be nourished by them.

00:46:48 --> 00:46:49

So another question

00:46:50 --> 00:46:52

in our contemporary reality, since that seems to

00:46:52 --> 00:46:53

be the

00:46:53 --> 00:46:56

the puzzle that we set for ourselves today,

00:46:56 --> 00:46:56

is

00:46:57 --> 00:46:58

if modern man has

00:46:59 --> 00:47:00

ransacked nature

00:47:00 --> 00:47:04

and intimidated it and terrorized it, so that

00:47:04 --> 00:47:06

probably that tiger has now been killed or

00:47:06 --> 00:47:07

something because

00:47:08 --> 00:47:09

it's on a public highway.

00:47:10 --> 00:47:11

If we are the terroristical

00:47:11 --> 00:47:14

enemies of just about every other species apart

00:47:14 --> 00:47:15

from those that we can

00:47:16 --> 00:47:17

enslave because we like

00:47:18 --> 00:47:20

chicken nuggets or something. If this is our

00:47:20 --> 00:47:21

our function

00:47:22 --> 00:47:22

on the planet,

00:47:23 --> 00:47:25

not to be Khalifa and stewards, but to

00:47:25 --> 00:47:26

be,

00:47:26 --> 00:47:27

rapists

00:47:28 --> 00:47:29

and mass murderers.

00:47:30 --> 00:47:33

Because the Quran says the other species are

00:47:34 --> 00:47:36

nations like yourselves, which when you think about

00:47:36 --> 00:47:37

it,

00:47:38 --> 00:47:40

it's a pretty radical statement.

00:47:41 --> 00:47:43

The world of rabbits has its own integrity,

00:47:43 --> 00:47:45

and it's right to have a global distribution

00:47:45 --> 00:47:47

just like the world of human beings. They

00:47:47 --> 00:47:49

have their own logic, their own consciousness, their

00:47:49 --> 00:47:51

own integrity, their own right to be here,

00:47:51 --> 00:47:53

and they're not just there for us. They're,

00:47:54 --> 00:47:55

autonomously

00:47:55 --> 00:47:56

as

00:47:56 --> 00:47:59

another way in which creation testifies to the

00:47:59 --> 00:48:01

majesty of its author.

00:48:02 --> 00:48:03

But we don't see that, so we just

00:48:04 --> 00:48:06

run them over on the a 14 or

00:48:06 --> 00:48:08

maybe eat them or shoot them, just whatever

00:48:08 --> 00:48:10

it is we do. But we we can't

00:48:10 --> 00:48:13

just let them be, because modern civilization doesn't

00:48:13 --> 00:48:15

see the point of letting anything be.

00:48:15 --> 00:48:17

Make money out of it, enjoy it,

00:48:18 --> 00:48:20

treat it as some kind of leisure activity,

00:48:22 --> 00:48:25

Go hunting for elephants in Botswana, but

00:48:25 --> 00:48:28

just capitalize everything. What's its monetary value?

00:48:29 --> 00:48:30

And the consequences

00:48:30 --> 00:48:34

for the poor old vandalized natural world are

00:48:34 --> 00:48:35

something that even the most,

00:48:36 --> 00:48:39

sort of crazy atheistic scientists like

00:48:40 --> 00:48:43

Lovelock have to acknowledge. They just say, oh,

00:48:43 --> 00:48:44

we'll come to an end because of all

00:48:44 --> 00:48:47

this cleverness, but there'll be something even smarter,

00:48:47 --> 00:48:48

so let's be optimistic.

00:48:50 --> 00:48:51

It's a kind of,

00:48:51 --> 00:48:52

weird

00:48:52 --> 00:48:53

eschatology.

00:48:55 --> 00:48:55

So,

00:48:57 --> 00:49:00

the question is, if humanity treats nature as

00:49:00 --> 00:49:03

an enemy rather than as just something that

00:49:03 --> 00:49:04

we are part of

00:49:05 --> 00:49:08

and are spiritually nourished by,

00:49:08 --> 00:49:11

how do we find our way to that

00:49:11 --> 00:49:12

contemplative

00:49:13 --> 00:49:13

tafakkur,

00:49:14 --> 00:49:17

which the Quran says is how you absorb

00:49:17 --> 00:49:17

faith.

00:49:19 --> 00:49:21

How do you get a natural belief if

00:49:21 --> 00:49:22

you're in

00:49:22 --> 00:49:24

terminal 5 at Heathrow, for instance?

00:49:26 --> 00:49:27

Maybe if you look out of the window,

00:49:27 --> 00:49:30

you can see beyond the smoking runway. There's

00:49:30 --> 00:49:32

a few trees out there. Otherwise, nature is

00:49:32 --> 00:49:33

decisively

00:49:33 --> 00:49:34

abolished.

00:49:35 --> 00:49:36

Even the food is kind of

00:49:37 --> 00:49:40

god knows how many additives and things have

00:49:40 --> 00:49:41

been added. And part of the weirdness of

00:49:41 --> 00:49:44

the modern food industry is that

00:49:44 --> 00:49:45

the

00:49:45 --> 00:49:46

more

00:49:46 --> 00:49:48

they manipulate the food and the more they

00:49:48 --> 00:49:50

add to it, the cheaper it gets.

00:49:50 --> 00:49:51

Should be the other way around when you

00:49:51 --> 00:49:53

think about it. This

00:49:53 --> 00:49:55

is the inversion that we're living. So

00:49:56 --> 00:49:58

how do you remember your Lord in these

00:49:58 --> 00:50:00

modern spaces that are the consequence of the

00:50:00 --> 00:50:01

radical

00:50:01 --> 00:50:02

ransacking

00:50:03 --> 00:50:04

and disenchantment

00:50:04 --> 00:50:06

of the world? Well, you do it through

00:50:08 --> 00:50:10

the Quranic verse that says,

00:50:15 --> 00:50:17

We shall show them our signs on the

00:50:17 --> 00:50:19

horizons and in themselves.

00:50:21 --> 00:50:23

I was talking to the prison chaplains a

00:50:23 --> 00:50:24

few days ago. In prison,

00:50:25 --> 00:50:27

you really are detached from nature.

00:50:27 --> 00:50:28

You don't have a spouse, you don't have

00:50:28 --> 00:50:29

children,

00:50:29 --> 00:50:31

maybe you can see a bird occasionally through

00:50:31 --> 00:50:32

the window

00:50:32 --> 00:50:34

in a high security prison. That might not

00:50:34 --> 00:50:36

happen very often. You don't breathe fresh air.

00:50:36 --> 00:50:38

If you've been to a prison, you'll see

00:50:38 --> 00:50:40

how at least the white folks are whiter

00:50:40 --> 00:50:43

than ever before, because they just don't go

00:50:43 --> 00:50:43

outdoors.

00:50:44 --> 00:50:45

How can they,

00:50:45 --> 00:50:47

enjoy this organic

00:50:47 --> 00:50:48

celebration,

00:50:48 --> 00:50:50

this feasting on the signs of nature?

00:50:51 --> 00:50:54

An interesting question, pastorally for them, putting it

00:50:54 --> 00:50:56

together. It's in other human beings.

00:50:58 --> 00:51:00

That is where the real sign is to

00:51:00 --> 00:51:02

be found. The inward universe is even more

00:51:02 --> 00:51:04

interesting than the outward universe,

00:51:05 --> 00:51:07

And this is the meaning of and Imam

00:51:07 --> 00:51:08

al Ghazali says this.

00:51:09 --> 00:51:10

It's one of the key points of his,

00:51:10 --> 00:51:11

Ihya al Mu'malat.

00:51:14 --> 00:51:15

There's a whole section on Muamalat,

00:51:16 --> 00:51:18

and he talks about

00:51:18 --> 00:51:21

the preference of being with others over being

00:51:21 --> 00:51:22

on one's own.

00:51:22 --> 00:51:24

Other people are pain, aren't they? I mean,

00:51:25 --> 00:51:27

most of our grumbles are about other people,

00:51:27 --> 00:51:28

and

00:51:28 --> 00:51:30

what they say about us, or what

00:51:31 --> 00:51:33

they've done to us, why not just

00:51:34 --> 00:51:35

be on your own?

00:51:35 --> 00:51:36

Like this new novel,

00:51:37 --> 00:51:37

Individutopia,

00:51:38 --> 00:51:40

which is doing quite well at the moment,

00:51:40 --> 00:51:42

which is about a future in which nobody

00:51:42 --> 00:51:43

ever talks to each other.

00:51:44 --> 00:51:46

In the shop, in the bank, whatever,

00:51:46 --> 00:51:48

everybody is an individual

00:51:48 --> 00:51:51

on their phones. There's no human to Amol.

00:51:51 --> 00:51:53

Isn't that better? Other people are just a

00:51:53 --> 00:51:54

pain.

00:51:54 --> 00:51:55

No?

00:51:55 --> 00:51:56

Well,

00:51:57 --> 00:52:00

in the in Imam Ghazali's vision, it is

00:52:01 --> 00:52:03

nature, and of course he spends 10 years

00:52:03 --> 00:52:04

in the wilderness,

00:52:06 --> 00:52:07

that restores

00:52:07 --> 00:52:08

our contemplative

00:52:09 --> 00:52:09

functionality.

00:52:10 --> 00:52:11

But also,

00:52:13 --> 00:52:13

the

00:52:14 --> 00:52:15

inward horizon.

00:52:16 --> 00:52:18

So there's the outward horizon,

00:52:19 --> 00:52:20

the few beech trees that you can see

00:52:20 --> 00:52:22

on the other side of the runway at

00:52:22 --> 00:52:22

Heathrow.

00:52:25 --> 00:52:27

The inward horizon, which by definition

00:52:28 --> 00:52:29

is what you are, and you can't get

00:52:29 --> 00:52:31

away from it. So inwardly,

00:52:32 --> 00:52:34

there is a dhikr, just as outwardly there

00:52:34 --> 00:52:37

is dhikr. But also inwardly, in our transaction

00:52:38 --> 00:52:38

with others,

00:52:39 --> 00:52:41

we intuit transcendence.

00:52:42 --> 00:52:44

And this is really important in our civilization,

00:52:45 --> 00:52:45

which emphasizes

00:52:46 --> 00:52:46

soba

00:52:47 --> 00:52:48

and engagement with others.

00:52:49 --> 00:52:52

What is interesting about the external world

00:52:53 --> 00:52:53

well,

00:52:54 --> 00:52:56

I guess mountains and trees and those things

00:52:56 --> 00:52:57

are pretty interesting.

00:52:57 --> 00:53:00

What is really interesting is

00:53:00 --> 00:53:01

the existence of other,

00:53:03 --> 00:53:05

little points of light, other consciousnesses,

00:53:06 --> 00:53:07

other

00:53:08 --> 00:53:12

phenomena, miracles, arroir, that also have self awareness,

00:53:12 --> 00:53:15

and to which you have moral obligations.

00:53:16 --> 00:53:18

That's why the ethical is so inextricable

00:53:18 --> 00:53:19

from the spiritual

00:53:20 --> 00:53:22

in Islam, because the whole process of

00:53:23 --> 00:53:26

Imam Ghazali makes this very clear, is about

00:53:27 --> 00:53:28

recognizing your own

00:53:29 --> 00:53:30

inward weaknesses

00:53:30 --> 00:53:31

and failings

00:53:31 --> 00:53:32

and needs

00:53:33 --> 00:53:36

by engaging with the mirror of the heart

00:53:36 --> 00:53:38

of somebody else. And this is the famous

00:53:38 --> 00:53:40

hadith, the believer is the mirror to the

00:53:40 --> 00:53:41

believer. Mir'atul Muqman.

00:53:43 --> 00:53:44

That when you're with other people,

00:53:45 --> 00:53:48

you are challenged and brought out of yourself

00:53:48 --> 00:53:50

far more reliably than if you're just on

00:53:50 --> 00:53:52

your own or looking in a mirror or

00:53:52 --> 00:53:54

taking a selfie, which is what we,

00:53:54 --> 00:53:56

nowadays seem to do, which is very characteristically

00:53:57 --> 00:53:57

modern

00:53:58 --> 00:53:59

sort of narcissism.

00:54:00 --> 00:54:02

Center of Cambridge yesterday.

00:54:03 --> 00:54:04

Everybody's taking photographs.

00:54:04 --> 00:54:06

I would say 90% of them are taking

00:54:06 --> 00:54:07

photographs of themselves,

00:54:11 --> 00:54:13

because it's the me generation and the self

00:54:13 --> 00:54:15

is the center

00:54:15 --> 00:54:18

of our concerns. But, actually, the other is

00:54:18 --> 00:54:19

more interesting.

00:54:19 --> 00:54:22

And Immanuel Vasili puts all of those chapters

00:54:22 --> 00:54:23

in the IHIA,

00:54:24 --> 00:54:26

the adab of traveling.

00:54:27 --> 00:54:29

That sounds like a rather kind of pedestrian

00:54:30 --> 00:54:31

thing, but a whole book on it.

00:54:32 --> 00:54:33

The adab of eating.

00:54:33 --> 00:54:34

Really?

00:54:34 --> 00:54:36

This is the greatest spiritual text of the

00:54:36 --> 00:54:37

greatest monotheistic.

00:54:37 --> 00:54:39

He's got a whole chapter just on

00:54:39 --> 00:54:40

eating.

00:54:41 --> 00:54:41

Marriage,

00:54:44 --> 00:54:45

CASP,

00:54:45 --> 00:54:47

what we call business ethics, I guess.

00:54:48 --> 00:54:49

These are important,

00:54:50 --> 00:54:52

not just because God is testing us to

00:54:52 --> 00:54:53

see whether we follow the rules when we're

00:54:53 --> 00:54:55

with annoying other people,

00:54:56 --> 00:54:57

but because in

00:54:58 --> 00:54:59

the human intuition

00:54:59 --> 00:55:00

of the

00:55:01 --> 00:55:01

inalienable

00:55:02 --> 00:55:02

integrity

00:55:03 --> 00:55:04

of the other's spirit,

00:55:05 --> 00:55:08

there is a reminder of the unseen world.

00:55:08 --> 00:55:11

This is important in Ghazali's Sufi Sufism and

00:55:11 --> 00:55:12

generally in Tarsal Wolf.

00:55:14 --> 00:55:16

There are reminders in the geometry of nature,

00:55:16 --> 00:55:18

and that can be a philosophical argument. It's

00:55:18 --> 00:55:20

also a spiritual nourishment.

00:55:20 --> 00:55:23

But the great sign of transcendence in the

00:55:23 --> 00:55:25

world is that to which the angels bow

00:55:25 --> 00:55:26

down.

00:55:26 --> 00:55:27

Human beings

00:55:29 --> 00:55:30

seems improbable.

00:55:33 --> 00:55:35

You created him of clay, but the angels

00:55:35 --> 00:55:36

bow down to

00:55:37 --> 00:55:40

any Adam or to that which is within

00:55:40 --> 00:55:43

us. So it's the the. And says that's

00:55:43 --> 00:55:44

what it's all about, but he's not gonna

00:55:44 --> 00:55:45

talk about it

00:55:46 --> 00:55:48

because it's something that cannot be encapt

00:55:49 --> 00:55:51

encapsulated in the net of words.

00:55:51 --> 00:55:54

But really the whole of the is moving

00:55:54 --> 00:55:56

towards a position in which we have sufficient

00:55:56 --> 00:55:57

self awareness,

00:55:58 --> 00:55:58

mindfulness,

00:55:59 --> 00:56:00

you might see nowadays,

00:56:01 --> 00:56:03

and sufficient compliance with the outward forms of

00:56:03 --> 00:56:05

the prophetic perfection

00:56:05 --> 00:56:06

for the contemplative

00:56:07 --> 00:56:09

mechanisms within ourselves to operate properly,

00:56:10 --> 00:56:12

and for us to see transcendence

00:56:13 --> 00:56:15

in and through and with other people.

00:56:19 --> 00:56:21

God's hand is with the congregation, and this

00:56:21 --> 00:56:22

is a collectivist

00:56:23 --> 00:56:25

movement. The holy prophet was not a hermit.

00:56:25 --> 00:56:27

He comes down from the mountain, comes down

00:56:27 --> 00:56:30

from the Maharaj, and his greatness is with

00:56:30 --> 00:56:31

his people.

00:56:31 --> 00:56:33

Not because that's a kind of

00:56:34 --> 00:56:35

necessary

00:56:36 --> 00:56:36

nuisance,

00:56:37 --> 00:56:39

but because it's in the intuition

00:56:39 --> 00:56:42

of the miracle of the other

00:56:42 --> 00:56:44

consciousness that you most reliably

00:56:45 --> 00:56:46

grasp transcendence.

00:56:47 --> 00:56:50

Beauty of the world, beauty of other people,

00:56:50 --> 00:56:51

that's all,

00:56:52 --> 00:56:53

abundantly celebrated

00:56:53 --> 00:56:55

in Ghazali's subsequent

00:56:55 --> 00:56:57

Sufi tradition. The idea of the shahid,

00:56:58 --> 00:57:01

beautiful human being who bears witness

00:57:02 --> 00:57:04

to the beauty of his or her creator,

00:57:05 --> 00:57:05

for sure.

00:57:06 --> 00:57:08

So in the airport, you can look at

00:57:08 --> 00:57:10

babies and so forth. That's a very Islamic

00:57:10 --> 00:57:12

thing to do, because

00:57:12 --> 00:57:14

the miracle of beauty and the purity of

00:57:14 --> 00:57:16

the young is certainly a shahid.

00:57:17 --> 00:57:18

But

00:57:18 --> 00:57:20

the engagement with the proximity

00:57:21 --> 00:57:23

with the human other, which is only ever

00:57:23 --> 00:57:25

possible if the ego is mastered, because the

00:57:25 --> 00:57:27

ego is the veil that shuts you off

00:57:27 --> 00:57:28

from seeing

00:57:28 --> 00:57:30

the integrity and the need of the human

00:57:30 --> 00:57:31

other.

00:57:32 --> 00:57:35

Really to see the miracle of somebody else's

00:57:35 --> 00:57:37

existence, to be close to that person,

00:57:38 --> 00:57:39

your teacher,

00:57:39 --> 00:57:40

your grandfather,

00:57:41 --> 00:57:41

your child,

00:57:42 --> 00:57:43

your lover,

00:57:44 --> 00:57:44

your

00:57:44 --> 00:57:47

colleague, your fellow tariqa member, whatever it might

00:57:47 --> 00:57:50

be. And thereby, really to experience the perfume

00:57:50 --> 00:57:51

of transcendence

00:57:51 --> 00:57:52

in your

00:57:52 --> 00:57:55

quite ordinary human activities,

00:57:55 --> 00:57:57

the ego has to go away,

00:57:58 --> 00:58:00

because it just gets in the way.

00:58:00 --> 00:58:03

It is the rust over the heart.

00:58:03 --> 00:58:06

That's the Quran and the Hadith puts it.

00:58:06 --> 00:58:08

That's what it does. The heart is

00:58:08 --> 00:58:09

the eye

00:58:10 --> 00:58:11

which perceives,

00:58:13 --> 00:58:13

and

00:58:14 --> 00:58:16

that which is a kind of cataract over

00:58:16 --> 00:58:17

its surfaces are egotistic

00:58:18 --> 00:58:19

interest

00:58:19 --> 00:58:21

in doing our own thing. And when we

00:58:21 --> 00:58:22

engage with somebody else,

00:58:23 --> 00:58:26

the ego is activated, the spirit is activated.

00:58:26 --> 00:58:27

And he talks about this in the Kitab

00:58:27 --> 00:58:28

of Mahaba.

00:58:28 --> 00:58:30

2 thing 2 parts of us are engaged

00:58:30 --> 00:58:33

naturally when we meet another human being.

00:58:33 --> 00:58:35

When we meet another

00:58:35 --> 00:58:36

element of creation,

00:58:37 --> 00:58:38

a dog

00:58:38 --> 00:58:39

or something,

00:58:39 --> 00:58:41

certain reflexes are triggered. But when we meet

00:58:41 --> 00:58:44

another human being, there's certain instinctive human,

00:58:45 --> 00:58:45

consciousnesses

00:58:46 --> 00:58:47

which come to the surface.

00:58:48 --> 00:58:50

Attraction might be one of them. Fight or

00:58:50 --> 00:58:52

flight might be another. These are obvious things,

00:58:52 --> 00:58:54

but there is also spiritual

00:58:55 --> 00:58:56

osmosis, and that's twofold.

00:58:57 --> 00:59:00

Firstly, the ego thinks, is this person a

00:59:00 --> 00:59:00

threat?

00:59:00 --> 00:59:02

Am I better than this person?

00:59:02 --> 00:59:05

Can I emerge from this encounter with my

00:59:05 --> 00:59:06

status intact?

00:59:06 --> 00:59:08

Is he earning more than me? Blah blah

00:59:08 --> 00:59:11

blah. All of those things, which are normal,

00:59:11 --> 00:59:12

out of

00:59:12 --> 00:59:13

natural humanity.

00:59:14 --> 00:59:14

It's the,

00:59:17 --> 00:59:20

the the Darwinian aspect within us. But also

00:59:20 --> 00:59:21

the,

00:59:22 --> 00:59:24

which is interested because of its nature in

00:59:24 --> 00:59:27

seeing the beauty and the integrity of the

00:59:27 --> 00:59:27

other.

00:59:28 --> 00:59:29

And that's the difference

00:59:30 --> 00:59:32

between the profane regard

00:59:33 --> 00:59:34

and the sacred

00:59:34 --> 00:59:36

regard. The eye of the heart,

00:59:37 --> 00:59:38

is what brings us,

00:59:39 --> 00:59:42

the happiness, which Imam al Ghazali says. This

00:59:42 --> 00:59:43

is the path of sadah.

00:59:45 --> 00:59:46

To the extent that you're happy and as

00:59:46 --> 00:59:49

well spiritually happy, The abode of sadder happiness

00:59:50 --> 00:59:52

is necessarily yours in the next world, and

00:59:52 --> 00:59:53

this is what you've kind

00:59:54 --> 00:59:54

of established

00:59:55 --> 00:59:55

as your

00:59:56 --> 00:59:56

priority.

00:59:58 --> 00:59:58

So

00:59:59 --> 00:59:59

the

01:00:00 --> 01:00:02

wants to see the faults in others and

01:00:02 --> 01:00:04

all of the 7 deadly sins, and vices,

01:00:04 --> 01:00:05

and pride,

01:00:06 --> 01:00:07

and envy,

01:00:07 --> 01:00:09

and all of that are activated and triggered

01:00:09 --> 01:00:12

by that whenever we meet another human being,

01:00:12 --> 01:00:13

we feel insecure,

01:00:13 --> 01:00:15

and all of that stuff, which we often

01:00:15 --> 01:00:17

spend most of our lives,

01:00:18 --> 01:00:20

trapped by and made

01:00:20 --> 01:00:21

stressed by.

01:00:22 --> 01:00:23

But the ruh,

01:00:24 --> 01:00:25

to the extent that it can still see

01:00:25 --> 01:00:27

anything at all, is looking to see the

01:00:27 --> 01:00:29

other ruh and to see the beauty, because

01:00:29 --> 01:00:31

the ruh is from the almul arawar, from

01:00:31 --> 01:00:34

the divine realm, and its natural habitat is

01:00:34 --> 01:00:35

beauty.

01:00:36 --> 01:00:38

It's in a space where there is only

01:00:38 --> 01:00:38

beauty.

01:00:39 --> 01:00:42

And its natural gravitation in this world is

01:00:42 --> 01:00:44

to see other tokens of beauty.

01:00:45 --> 01:00:47

So in the meanwhile, in

01:00:47 --> 01:00:50

Kitab Shar Hajjah ebel Kalb, which is maybe

01:00:50 --> 01:00:52

the heart of the the Ihir, he calls

01:00:52 --> 01:00:54

it the exposition of the wonders of the

01:00:54 --> 01:00:55

heart,

01:00:58 --> 01:00:59

asks us

01:01:00 --> 01:01:01

how we would be

01:01:01 --> 01:01:02

if,

01:01:03 --> 01:01:04

that was our

01:01:04 --> 01:01:07

automatic way of dealing with human transactions.

01:01:07 --> 01:01:08

If in all of these,

01:01:10 --> 01:01:12

we engage with another human being,

01:01:13 --> 01:01:16

Somebody who's reading my passport or somebody who

01:01:16 --> 01:01:18

stops me for speeding or whatever other profane

01:01:18 --> 01:01:21

thing it might be. And instead of the

01:01:21 --> 01:01:22

ego being activated,

01:01:23 --> 01:01:25

the ruach is activated. And there was another

01:01:26 --> 01:01:29

miracle of a ruach to which angels bow

01:01:29 --> 01:01:30

down, etcetera, with me at

01:01:32 --> 01:01:33

the day of interesting.

01:01:34 --> 01:01:37

In other words, an experience of solidarity

01:01:37 --> 01:01:39

and of beauty and of intersubjectivity,

01:01:41 --> 01:01:43

which is necessarily the case even if that

01:01:43 --> 01:01:44

person is

01:01:45 --> 01:01:47

poking you in the eye. That person still

01:01:47 --> 01:01:48

has a somewhere,

01:01:48 --> 01:01:51

and there's always spiritual interest in that situation,

01:01:51 --> 01:01:52

whether it's Jaman or Jalal.

01:01:53 --> 01:01:55

And the nourishment that we would experience,

01:01:56 --> 01:01:57

this is what I was saying to to

01:01:57 --> 01:01:59

the chaplains, even in a prison situation,

01:02:00 --> 01:02:02

where the external

01:02:02 --> 01:02:03

horizon

01:02:03 --> 01:02:05

signs are really abolished.

01:02:06 --> 01:02:07

But the human engagement,

01:02:08 --> 01:02:09

the the Muamala

01:02:09 --> 01:02:11

engagement between souls is still something that the

01:02:11 --> 01:02:14

believer is interested in. And if you spend

01:02:14 --> 01:02:16

time with people who are

01:02:16 --> 01:02:17

spiritually

01:02:17 --> 01:02:19

trained and refined,

01:02:19 --> 01:02:22

you will notice how much they seem to

01:02:22 --> 01:02:22

enjoy

01:02:24 --> 01:02:26

learning about human beings.

01:02:27 --> 01:02:28

They really

01:02:28 --> 01:02:31

smile when a new person joins their majlis,

01:02:31 --> 01:02:32

and they want to know who they are.

01:02:32 --> 01:02:34

What is this person really about? And you

01:02:34 --> 01:02:36

ask them questions about job and children and

01:02:36 --> 01:02:38

so forth, and these are the kind of

01:02:38 --> 01:02:39

standard ritual,

01:02:40 --> 01:02:40

formulas,

01:02:41 --> 01:02:43

particularly in eastern cultures that are exchanged. But

01:02:43 --> 01:02:45

it's not really about that. It's let me

01:02:45 --> 01:02:45

see

01:02:46 --> 01:02:49

what this person is and what god means

01:02:49 --> 01:02:50

by this unique

01:02:50 --> 01:02:52

human being and how I can be nourished

01:02:52 --> 01:02:53

spiritually,

01:02:54 --> 01:02:55

how this person can contribute

01:02:56 --> 01:02:57

to the Maglis'

01:02:57 --> 01:03:00

pouring out of the wine of divine

01:03:00 --> 01:03:01

recollection, because

01:03:02 --> 01:03:02

that's

01:03:03 --> 01:03:04

the only thing worth drinking.

01:03:06 --> 01:03:06

And this,

01:03:07 --> 01:03:09

actually is the way to read the Ihir,

01:03:09 --> 01:03:11

and you get a sense of what happened

01:03:11 --> 01:03:14

to Imam al Ghazali on those 10 years.

01:03:15 --> 01:03:17

Many of which were spent, it seems, kind

01:03:17 --> 01:03:19

of in a state of seclusion.

01:03:20 --> 01:03:21

That he understands,

01:03:22 --> 01:03:23

that we are ourselves

01:03:24 --> 01:03:26

when we are in accordance with our fitra,

01:03:26 --> 01:03:27

which is naturally

01:03:28 --> 01:03:28

God

01:03:29 --> 01:03:29

inhaling,

01:03:30 --> 01:03:31

nourished

01:03:31 --> 01:03:34

human beings. We're not designed to

01:03:34 --> 01:03:37

be rocks or stones. We're praisers.

01:03:38 --> 01:03:39

Ibad,

01:03:40 --> 01:03:41

slaves of God is

01:03:41 --> 01:03:44

what we should be and what makes us

01:03:44 --> 01:03:47

most healthy, spiritually, even physically. It's just good

01:03:47 --> 01:03:50

for us. It's our natural way. It's our

01:03:51 --> 01:03:51

the,

01:03:53 --> 01:03:55

the air, the mixture of gases into air

01:03:55 --> 01:03:58

that we are designed to breathe, unlike the

01:03:59 --> 01:04:00

unpleasant

01:04:01 --> 01:04:03

mixture that modernity gives us. It's,

01:04:04 --> 01:04:05

it's it's right for us.

01:04:06 --> 01:04:08

And that in this environment,

01:04:09 --> 01:04:11

life is endlessly

01:04:11 --> 01:04:11

interesting

01:04:12 --> 01:04:13

because of these Muamalat,

01:04:14 --> 01:04:15

that you can turn

01:04:16 --> 01:04:17

your evening in

01:04:18 --> 01:04:20

a dusty caravan Sarai

01:04:20 --> 01:04:22

with a bunch of merchants from who knows

01:04:22 --> 01:04:24

where, and they're noisy

01:04:24 --> 01:04:27

camels, whatever that experience is. You can turn

01:04:27 --> 01:04:29

it into an integrated part of your,

01:04:30 --> 01:04:32

experience of God, not just your search for

01:04:32 --> 01:04:33

God

01:04:33 --> 01:04:37

through keeping moral boundaries and courtesy, but your

01:04:37 --> 01:04:40

experience of God, because human beings are

01:04:40 --> 01:04:42

yet are signs stronger

01:04:43 --> 01:04:46

than anything else in the the physical world.

01:04:47 --> 01:04:49

And this goes for all of the other,

01:04:50 --> 01:04:53

Muhamalat, all of the other kinds of transaction

01:04:53 --> 01:04:54

that he indicates that,

01:04:55 --> 01:04:57

and it happens, of course, in relationships,

01:04:58 --> 01:04:58

particularly.

01:04:59 --> 01:05:00

Nowadays,

01:05:00 --> 01:05:01

relationships

01:05:02 --> 01:05:04

not working particularly well, even though it should

01:05:04 --> 01:05:07

really be the easiest thing for us.

01:05:07 --> 01:05:10

The male and the female naturally belong together.

01:05:10 --> 01:05:12

There is a kind of magnetism there that

01:05:12 --> 01:05:14

should make that the easiest thing. But often

01:05:14 --> 01:05:16

it's one of the most hard things,

01:05:16 --> 01:05:18

usually because the ego is activated.

01:05:19 --> 01:05:21

Does she look like this? Does he have

01:05:21 --> 01:05:23

this job? Will he buy me a car?

01:05:23 --> 01:05:25

It's all about what can I get out

01:05:25 --> 01:05:27

of this rather than what is really interesting,

01:05:27 --> 01:05:28

which is seeing

01:05:29 --> 01:05:30

a miracle of another soul

01:05:31 --> 01:05:32

with its

01:05:32 --> 01:05:33

needs

01:05:34 --> 01:05:37

that's more interesting than the other stuff? Nafs

01:05:37 --> 01:05:39

is an animalistic thing ultimately,

01:05:40 --> 01:05:42

and is no more interesting than just

01:05:42 --> 01:05:45

watching a dog or a cat. It's it's,

01:05:45 --> 01:05:48

very predictable after a while, but the roar,

01:05:48 --> 01:05:50

yeah, is, of course, reflecting

01:05:50 --> 01:05:51

eternity.

01:05:52 --> 01:05:53

So he says that,

01:05:54 --> 01:05:57

we need to shift our optic.

01:05:58 --> 01:06:01

And in our engagement with others, including engagement

01:06:01 --> 01:06:02

with with spouses,

01:06:04 --> 01:06:05

figure out

01:06:07 --> 01:06:09

what that person really is, and enjoying the

01:06:09 --> 01:06:11

miracle of closeness

01:06:12 --> 01:06:14

to another sort of paradox of consciousness, which

01:06:14 --> 01:06:17

is the deepest mystery in the physical world.

01:06:17 --> 01:06:20

And, Imam Zabidi, who has the great commentary

01:06:20 --> 01:06:20

on the,

01:06:21 --> 01:06:23

talks about this, where he talks about the

01:06:23 --> 01:06:26

the nikah and the rules of nikah and

01:06:27 --> 01:06:29

what what is really going on in this

01:06:29 --> 01:06:30

this mystery.

01:06:32 --> 01:06:34

And it's also the case, I think, that

01:06:35 --> 01:06:37

Imam Ghazali, in his understanding of the fiqh,

01:06:38 --> 01:06:39

and there are quite a lot of fiqh

01:06:39 --> 01:06:40

things in here,

01:06:42 --> 01:06:45

insists that you can only really understand

01:06:46 --> 01:06:48

the Sharia, or begin to understand it, when

01:06:48 --> 01:06:50

you see it as a form of life,

01:06:51 --> 01:06:53

which is there to represent,

01:06:54 --> 01:06:56

human beings who try to be egoless,

01:06:58 --> 01:07:01

and are trying to look for ways of

01:07:01 --> 01:07:02

improving things and others,

01:07:03 --> 01:07:05

rather than looking at the world as a

01:07:05 --> 01:07:08

kind of endless supermarket from which they can

01:07:08 --> 01:07:09

take things for themselves.

01:07:10 --> 01:07:12

You can't understand the Sharia

01:07:12 --> 01:07:14

if you're in a frame that says, well,

01:07:14 --> 01:07:15

what about what about me?

01:07:16 --> 01:07:18

It is a way of service. It is

01:07:18 --> 01:07:19

a way of sacrifice.

01:07:20 --> 01:07:23

And sometimes, privileges are granted, but those privileges

01:07:23 --> 01:07:26

are there in order to convey certain onerous

01:07:26 --> 01:07:27

responsibilities.

01:07:27 --> 01:07:28

And,

01:07:28 --> 01:07:30

nothing really in

01:07:30 --> 01:07:32

the sacred law of Islam can be understood

01:07:32 --> 01:07:34

outside that. And Henry Beaman in his book,

01:07:34 --> 01:07:36

The Secret of Islam, talks a lot about

01:07:36 --> 01:07:37

this. The Sharia is just there

01:07:38 --> 01:07:39

as an expression

01:07:39 --> 01:07:41

of God's love for human beings

01:07:41 --> 01:07:42

through the holy

01:07:43 --> 01:07:44

prophet. Every one of these rulings is based

01:07:44 --> 01:07:46

on the divine compassion and love.

01:07:47 --> 01:07:49

But to understand that, we have to get

01:07:49 --> 01:07:50

into the space that,

01:07:51 --> 01:07:53

Allah wishes us to be in, which is

01:07:53 --> 01:07:56

a space of finding our true happiness through

01:07:57 --> 01:07:59

service and the noticing

01:07:59 --> 01:08:01

of other people and their needs.

01:08:02 --> 01:08:05

If we treat them as just more phenomena

01:08:05 --> 01:08:07

out there that we observe with our senses,

01:08:07 --> 01:08:09

you're not going to figure out the way

01:08:09 --> 01:08:11

the shari'a is at all.

01:08:11 --> 01:08:13

It's not designed to be that. It's not

01:08:13 --> 01:08:15

designed to be judged like that. And,

01:08:15 --> 01:08:18

that's a very important aspect of the Ghazalian

01:08:18 --> 01:08:19

perspective.

01:08:20 --> 01:08:21

So we're beginning to see

01:08:22 --> 01:08:24

that the story that the imam sort of

01:08:24 --> 01:08:27

enacts for us, and there's something quite

01:08:27 --> 01:08:28

iconic about it,

01:08:29 --> 01:08:31

turning away from exoteric

01:08:31 --> 01:08:32

learning

01:08:33 --> 01:08:34

in favor of,

01:08:35 --> 01:08:35

contemplative

01:08:36 --> 01:08:37

knowledge,

01:08:37 --> 01:08:40

and then a return to the exoteric

01:08:41 --> 01:08:42

armed with the awareness

01:08:42 --> 01:08:45

that it's only the esoteric that gives the

01:08:45 --> 01:08:45

outward

01:08:46 --> 01:08:46

meaning,

01:08:50 --> 01:08:51

is really the key

01:08:52 --> 01:08:54

contribution of his life, and of course so

01:08:54 --> 01:08:55

many other things.

01:08:57 --> 01:08:58

He is a warrior.

01:08:59 --> 01:09:01

He is passionate for truth in a prophetic

01:09:01 --> 01:09:02

kind of way.

01:09:03 --> 01:09:04

He writes a book in which

01:09:05 --> 01:09:07

he corrects the Christians on the basis

01:09:07 --> 01:09:09

of the text of the New Testament. He

01:09:09 --> 01:09:11

writes a book which corrects the philosophy

01:09:12 --> 01:09:14

of Ibn Sina. Based on the philosophy of

01:09:14 --> 01:09:16

Ibn Sina, he writes books that correct the

01:09:16 --> 01:09:18

Ismailis and all of these other paths to

01:09:18 --> 01:09:18

knowledge

01:09:19 --> 01:09:21

that he thinks are not worthy

01:09:21 --> 01:09:23

of human beings.

01:09:24 --> 01:09:27

All of this is done through the spirit

01:09:27 --> 01:09:27

of,

01:09:28 --> 01:09:29

of compassion.

01:09:30 --> 01:09:30

And,

01:09:32 --> 01:09:35

towards the end of his greatest work, which

01:09:35 --> 01:09:37

is the, which is also kind of polemical

01:09:37 --> 01:09:37

work,

01:09:38 --> 01:09:41

And the target of this book is not

01:09:41 --> 01:09:43

the Ismailis or the philosophers or

01:09:43 --> 01:09:44

whoever.

01:09:45 --> 01:09:47

The target of this book is

01:09:48 --> 01:09:49

Muslims who underestimate,

01:09:50 --> 01:09:52

what Islam is giving them

01:09:53 --> 01:09:55

by just going through the motions,

01:09:55 --> 01:09:56

as if Islam is just a list of

01:09:56 --> 01:09:57

10,000

01:09:58 --> 01:10:01

sort of disconnected, sometimes difficult, sometimes familiar things

01:10:01 --> 01:10:02

which we do

01:10:02 --> 01:10:04

in order to get treats in the next

01:10:04 --> 01:10:05

life. Well,

01:10:05 --> 01:10:07

there is a next life in God's

01:10:07 --> 01:10:10

mercy, and that is an important part of

01:10:11 --> 01:10:13

the here and the way in which he

01:10:13 --> 01:10:16

incentivizes us. But it's very much about

01:10:16 --> 01:10:18

how we live in anticipation

01:10:19 --> 01:10:22

of the dara saada, the paradisal world of

01:10:22 --> 01:10:22

happiness

01:10:23 --> 01:10:24

in this world.

01:10:26 --> 01:10:29

How can there be a garden in our

01:10:29 --> 01:10:29

hearts,

01:10:30 --> 01:10:32

in our relationships, in our tariqas, in our

01:10:32 --> 01:10:35

circles of knowledge, in our government, even? How

01:10:35 --> 01:10:36

can we make things

01:10:37 --> 01:10:38

come to life

01:10:39 --> 01:10:40

so that there is,

01:10:40 --> 01:10:41

verdure

01:10:41 --> 01:10:42

in these,

01:10:43 --> 01:10:43

earthly

01:10:44 --> 01:10:47

transactions. And, of course, the duty

01:10:47 --> 01:10:49

to do that, to plant these sort of

01:10:49 --> 01:10:51

gardens, as it were, to create

01:10:52 --> 01:10:55

an easy indicativity of the creator's presence

01:10:55 --> 01:10:58

in apparently profane things in this world is

01:10:59 --> 01:11:01

something that continues even today. This is one

01:11:01 --> 01:11:03

of the meanings of the hadith that says,

01:11:03 --> 01:11:05

if the hour comes upon you when you

01:11:05 --> 01:11:08

are planting a tree, finish planting it.

01:11:09 --> 01:11:11

Planting of trees is an important thing in

01:11:11 --> 01:11:12

the sunnah.

01:11:12 --> 01:11:14

And if you look at

01:11:14 --> 01:11:16

the idea of the tree in the sort

01:11:16 --> 01:11:18

of a dictionary of hadith, you'll see there's

01:11:18 --> 01:11:20

a lot about trees in Islam. But the

01:11:20 --> 01:11:22

point of this hadith is that even at

01:11:22 --> 01:11:23

the end of time,

01:11:23 --> 01:11:26

you continue to work for the greening and

01:11:26 --> 01:11:26

the repristenation

01:11:27 --> 01:11:30

of creation because it's just what human beings

01:11:31 --> 01:11:31

should do.

01:11:32 --> 01:11:35

It's a trigger for environmental action against global

01:11:35 --> 01:11:37

warming, I guess. You have to do this

01:11:37 --> 01:11:39

thing. Planting trees is actually much more effective

01:11:39 --> 01:11:40

than any,

01:11:41 --> 01:11:44

more spiffy scientific high-tech remedy for climate change,

01:11:45 --> 01:11:45

because,

01:11:46 --> 01:11:48

trees capture so much carbon. And this is

01:11:48 --> 01:11:49

prophetically mandated

01:11:50 --> 01:11:52

in the end times. But that's an indication

01:11:52 --> 01:11:55

of the larger pursuit that the believer has

01:11:55 --> 01:11:56

to have, that

01:11:56 --> 01:11:59

remembrance of God creates a garden of paradise.

01:12:01 --> 01:12:03

According to the famous hadith,

01:12:05 --> 01:12:08

are. Circles of remembrance of God are gardens

01:12:08 --> 01:12:10

of the gardens of paradise.

01:12:11 --> 01:12:13

In the place where God is remembered,

01:12:13 --> 01:12:15

even if his name is not spoken, but

01:12:15 --> 01:12:17

where people are remembering God through a due

01:12:17 --> 01:12:19

courteous engagement with each other

01:12:20 --> 01:12:21

and are in tune with their hearts and

01:12:21 --> 01:12:24

their inner nature. That's a garden of paradise,

01:12:24 --> 01:12:24

and that's a

01:12:25 --> 01:12:26

a tiny anticipation,

01:12:26 --> 01:12:29

a waft from the fragrance of the of

01:12:29 --> 01:12:31

the. This is part of the joy of

01:12:31 --> 01:12:33

the believer and the sweetness

01:12:33 --> 01:12:34

that the believer should find,

01:12:35 --> 01:12:37

when present with other people who have this

01:12:37 --> 01:12:38

higher aspiration.

01:12:40 --> 01:12:42

So that essentially, and I could talk about

01:12:42 --> 01:12:44

Muhammad Ghazali for a very long time, is

01:12:44 --> 01:12:48

what I believe to be the deeper message

01:12:48 --> 01:12:50

of the IHIA. And this is a kind

01:12:50 --> 01:12:50

of leadership

01:12:51 --> 01:12:54

that is about the renewal of the whole

01:12:54 --> 01:12:55

of the religion through

01:12:56 --> 01:12:58

recapturing of its holistic, ambitious,

01:12:59 --> 01:13:02

universal purport. It's not just about what you

01:13:02 --> 01:13:04

do in the mosque, and it's not really

01:13:04 --> 01:13:05

relevant to what you do in other aspects

01:13:05 --> 01:13:07

of your life. You'll be uncomfortable

01:13:08 --> 01:13:10

and stressed if that's your reality.

01:13:11 --> 01:13:12

Instead, it is,

01:13:13 --> 01:13:16

the determination of a sacred purpose to hide

01:13:16 --> 01:13:17

everything which is ethical,

01:13:18 --> 01:13:20

which is for the human other, which is

01:13:20 --> 01:13:21

about Muamalat,

01:13:22 --> 01:13:25

which is living in compliance with the prophetic

01:13:25 --> 01:13:27

boundaries, which show the best form

01:13:28 --> 01:13:31

of of human dignity and human flourishing,

01:13:31 --> 01:13:33

and is also based on the activation,

01:13:34 --> 01:13:34

the liberation

01:13:35 --> 01:13:37

of the ruh, the spirit. Because

01:13:38 --> 01:13:38

the nafs,

01:13:39 --> 01:13:41

by its nature, looks for ugly things,

01:13:42 --> 01:13:44

and the Ruh, by its nature, wishes to

01:13:44 --> 01:13:45

see what's beautiful.

01:13:46 --> 01:13:48

And the modern world is

01:13:48 --> 01:13:51

increasingly generating a mass culture,

01:13:51 --> 01:13:53

which makes money

01:13:53 --> 01:13:54

for an oligarchy

01:13:55 --> 01:13:57

from the lower self's desire to look at

01:13:57 --> 01:13:58

ugly things,

01:13:59 --> 01:14:00

and to look at manifestations

01:14:01 --> 01:14:03

of the ugliest, most impure,

01:14:04 --> 01:14:05

most perverse,

01:14:06 --> 01:14:08

most private aspects of human beings

01:14:09 --> 01:14:12

that naturally wishes to see stuff like that,

01:14:13 --> 01:14:16

and increasingly that's what the entertainment industry,

01:14:17 --> 01:14:19

fashion industry, so much of our culture is

01:14:19 --> 01:14:21

about lyrics of so many popular songs,

01:14:22 --> 01:14:25

because it's easy and the lower self finds

01:14:25 --> 01:14:27

it sweet. But the higher self, the Rur,

01:14:29 --> 01:14:32

looking for archetypes, looking for order, looking for

01:14:32 --> 01:14:33

contemplation,

01:14:33 --> 01:14:36

is actually the self that we should inhabit

01:14:36 --> 01:14:37

if we're going to find Sa'adah.

01:14:38 --> 01:14:41

So the Talba is turning away from that

01:14:41 --> 01:14:42

which makes us miserable

01:14:43 --> 01:14:45

and distracted in a zillion different directions,

01:14:46 --> 01:14:49

because there's no unifying principle to appetite,

01:14:49 --> 01:14:52

and which turns us back to the one,

01:14:52 --> 01:14:55

the true source of beauty and love. As

01:14:55 --> 01:14:57

Mahmoud Ghazali says in the book of Mahaba,

01:14:58 --> 01:14:59

I'm gonna do so much reading today, but

01:14:59 --> 01:15:01

I haven't even started.

01:15:03 --> 01:15:05

Everything that is loved in the world is

01:15:05 --> 01:15:07

loved because it's a kind of metaphor for

01:15:07 --> 01:15:08

the divine beauty,

01:15:08 --> 01:15:11

and therefore, it is a sacred thing.

01:15:11 --> 01:15:13

Even if you love your cat,

01:15:14 --> 01:15:17

there's an aspect there of love for that

01:15:17 --> 01:15:20

aspect of whatever it is about cattishness or

01:15:20 --> 01:15:21

what the cat does, which ultimately

01:15:22 --> 01:15:23

speaks of its divine

01:15:24 --> 01:15:25

source. It may be a zillionth of a

01:15:25 --> 01:15:27

percentage point of the real thing, but it's

01:15:27 --> 01:15:30

still there. So we need to turn away

01:15:30 --> 01:15:33

from the ego, which wants to dislike and

01:15:33 --> 01:15:35

to be envious and to be superior and

01:15:35 --> 01:15:38

to turn towards the spirit, which is about

01:15:38 --> 01:15:40

love and which is about beauty. As he

01:15:40 --> 01:15:43

says, love, longing, intimacy, and contentment, and mahaba,

01:15:43 --> 01:15:44

or shalq,

01:15:44 --> 01:15:46

or uns, or riddar.

01:15:46 --> 01:15:48

If we have some share of those four

01:15:48 --> 01:15:50

things, we'll get some sense of what the

01:15:50 --> 01:15:51

imam

01:15:51 --> 01:15:53

achieved or was given

01:15:53 --> 01:15:55

during those 10 years of his, peregrination

01:15:56 --> 01:15:57

and his return

01:15:58 --> 01:16:00

to human beings and to society, just as

01:16:00 --> 01:16:03

the holy prophet alaihis salatu wasalam

01:16:03 --> 01:16:04

came back,

01:16:04 --> 01:16:06

from the mountain and came back from the

01:16:06 --> 01:16:08

Mi'raj, because

01:16:08 --> 01:16:10

it is with human beings

01:16:10 --> 01:16:13

that we find not just our greatest challenges,

01:16:13 --> 01:16:15

but also potentially our our greatest,

01:16:16 --> 01:16:19

consolation and our paths to God.

01:16:19 --> 01:16:20

So that's

01:16:21 --> 01:16:24

maybe 1% of what Imam Ghazali is saying

01:16:24 --> 01:16:28

in his absolutely gigantic and colossal, almost miraculous

01:16:28 --> 01:16:28

output

01:16:29 --> 01:16:31

of books that that changed that were game

01:16:31 --> 01:16:32

changers for the Ummah.

01:16:33 --> 01:16:34

A leader?

01:16:34 --> 01:16:36

Yes. But somebody who

01:16:36 --> 01:16:37

specifically

01:16:37 --> 01:16:38

renounced

01:16:40 --> 01:16:40

leadership

01:16:41 --> 01:16:43

in the academic world where egos tend to

01:16:43 --> 01:16:45

be more tender and big than in most

01:16:45 --> 01:16:48

other areas, and it was painful for him.

01:16:49 --> 01:16:53

But he specifically renounced that, and by saying

01:16:53 --> 01:16:53

no

01:16:54 --> 01:16:55

to the leadership of NAFs,

01:16:56 --> 01:16:58

by tearing up his CV,

01:16:59 --> 01:17:02

he became de facto a leader unto God,

01:17:02 --> 01:17:04

and he was given this tawfir that the

01:17:04 --> 01:17:07

hadith indicates. And if Muhammad Ghazali is not

01:17:07 --> 01:17:10

hudratil Islam, then I don't know who is.

01:17:10 --> 01:17:12

And he has led countless souls

01:17:13 --> 01:17:16

from ego to ruh, from ignorance to truth,

01:17:16 --> 01:17:19

from jahiliyah to Islam, and that, the power

01:17:19 --> 01:17:20

of that transformation

01:17:20 --> 01:17:21

continues to

01:17:21 --> 01:17:23

spread out in the wider Ummah.

01:17:24 --> 01:17:24

So,

01:17:25 --> 01:17:28

I wanted to finish with Mahmoud Ghazali partly

01:17:28 --> 01:17:29

because he,

01:17:30 --> 01:17:31

as it were, encompasses,

01:17:32 --> 01:17:34

so many other ways of having a human

01:17:34 --> 01:17:35

story,

01:17:35 --> 01:17:37

a public human story.

01:17:38 --> 01:17:40

And, of course, here's our wujudid and our

01:17:40 --> 01:17:41

waghi tal Islam,

01:17:42 --> 01:17:45

radiAllahu anhu wa arada. So, it's the end

01:17:45 --> 01:17:47

of this year's courses. Thank you for your

01:17:47 --> 01:17:50

patience, for staying with us. Inshallah, there has

01:17:50 --> 01:17:52

been benefit

01:17:52 --> 01:17:55

just by rehearsing the stories of the great

01:17:55 --> 01:17:56

souls

01:17:56 --> 01:17:57

that the prophetic

01:17:58 --> 01:17:59

moment

01:18:00 --> 01:18:02

made possible in in this world. And, inshallah,

01:18:03 --> 01:18:04

there will be many more to come, and

01:18:04 --> 01:18:06

may Allah, inshallah, grant us

01:18:06 --> 01:18:07

peace,

01:18:07 --> 01:18:10

serenity with our families, with our neighbors, with

01:18:10 --> 01:18:11

the world in these

01:18:12 --> 01:18:14

troubling times, in the summer months and in

01:18:14 --> 01:18:15

the future.

01:18:20 --> 01:18:21

Cambridge Muslim College,

01:18:22 --> 01:18:24

training the next generation of Muslim thinkers.

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