Yasir Qadhi – A Reflection on The Current Situation

Yasir Qadhi
AI: Summary © The speakers discuss the success of Islam, the economy, cultural history, and political events in India. They also touch on the shift in focus towards digital content and the potential for political movements through social media. The rise of Islam has led to political movements and confusion among Muslims, but the speakers emphasize the importance of keeping records of people who travel to India and avoiding false information. The speakers also emphasize the importance of physical distancing and praying to increase spiritual connections.
AI: Transcript ©
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Assalamu alaykum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh Alhamdulillah we thank Allah subhana wa tada for every single blessing that He has given us We ask Allah subhana wa tada to send to Sadat and Salam upon our Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, and we thank Allah subhana wa tada for the blessings of technology, because one of the most interesting and amazing things that hamdulillah we thank Allah, that here I am in America and I have a very dear mentor and friend of mine, Dr. Zakir Naik all the way in Malaysia. And we are arranging a teleconference a live conference call or a video conference, where we will be discussing and chatting and Dr. zakian X and I want to call her to LA welcome to

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our first episode

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while to filarmonica leberkas it's my pleasure to be with you Alhamdulillah Alhamdulillah so Mashallah, so this is our first time attempting this, and we ask our audience to excuse us if there is any lag in timing because there is obviously a lot of technology involved. So bear with us in sha Allah with data and let's see what we can benefit from. First and foremost, drug sub. Thank you very much for spending some of your precious time and agreeing to this conversation. I want to ask How are you? How are you doing? How's the family I know that things have been very tense for you. And I know that a lot of people really they just want to get an update about what's going on. And you

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know, we know you've been in self imposed exile. So we want to know from you like how's everything going? So Bismillah

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Alhamdulillah, Allah subhanaw taala has been very kind have been very merciful has been very helpful, though we might have heard about what happened in the last

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three years that the government of my country, you know, because of the allegations are forced to shift out and to interact within the Sunnah of the Prophet hamdulillah and with all these things are handled in love by the grace of Allah subhanaw taala but natural my lifestyle and everything has changed. Have you ever in Bombay, we had one of the largest Mashallah private organization in the world. They've had more than 500 full time employees. And now I have only two employees, what's the big change, and everything in the way of working style, you know, previously more involved in hardcore power

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based on comparative religion? So with all these things, Michelle, I feel that after shifting to Malaysia, you know, I've left my country for more than three and a half years, you know, I feel that my mind has increased, and I personally feel that my closeness to Allah subhanaw taala increased, the lifestyle has changed drastically and everything I feel it for the better. And I thank Allah subhanaw taala looking at the situation of my country today, you know, my country planned what they plan to do to India, and one of the plan was to take me out of the country. I feel a lot planned better as

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a local machine. And for me, chapter three verse number 54 a lot planned much better for me, my my brother has increased my mind I've increased my closeness to 11 Korean researchers increased

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sleeping about half an hour more than what I should sleep in

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about three

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to four hours. And

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I feel overall with all the problems etc. I think the positive point is much more

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Alhamdulillah so Allah subhanho wa Taala reminds us in the Quran, woman you hydrography Sevilla edges for all the more awesome and Catherine was sad, whoever migrates for the sake of Allah subhanho wa Taala that he will find the earth very fertile and a lot of benefits and hand will come. And as we know that hegira has been the son of the MBR Ibrahim alayhis salam was the first to make hegira and our Prophet Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wa sallam himself made the hedgerow so you are following very noble footsteps. And we know that every hedgerow that they made it brought them much much good for themselves and for the religion of Islam. So I pray that Allah subhana wa tada blesses

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you in this hedgerow, and I pray that all of those blessings that the Quran mentions that will happen to those who immigrate for the sake of Allah and all the blessings of the muhajir because the Maha God and are of a higher status because of their hegira I pray that those blessings also come to you for your hedger. I know love brings comfort and peace to your family. But the question that arises is why why choose Malaysia? Because even I, when I heard I was like, my shoulder, there's so many countries and I love Malaysia, but again, there must be some reason so what what is the reason that you chose the country of Malaysia? The problem started in India, about three and a half years

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back in July 2016. Within a couple of months, Mashallah there were about you know, 13 to 15 countries that

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They offered me that I can come and stay there and take care of you will protect you. I've seen the pros and cons I shortlisted about three countries out of which I felt militia was the best. And the point to me today, after they get the division, I feel that you know, almost all the countries, all the Muslim countries in the world, they are having problems. So I think Malaysia is the best of the worst among the Muslim country, or the best available Muslim country, for a person to live in. And many things are number one, that Malaysia is away from the war zone, you know, many of the Muslim countries in the world, like Yemen, and the Gulf countries and Egypt.

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It's already from the water, the number one, number two, being in the Southeast Asia, it is away from the direct influence and direct bully of the Western countries.

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And number three, that

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Malaysia is the strongest Muslim passport in the world, the country which has the strongest Muslim passport, you can travel to 185 countries without any visa, USA, maybe I think two countries Well, that's it. For Malaysia when it if I can do they can travel without

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vanilla. And lastly, amongst the non Arab countries,

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among the non Arab Muslim countries, I feel the practice of the Malaysian Muslim on average is higher than an average Muslim in India, or average Muslim in Pakistan or Bangladesh on average, feel that you will find more number of Muslims offering the Salah in congregation in the mosque and practicing. So all these factors put together and militia again.

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Why number five is very economical.

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Much more cheaper, the cost of living is somewhat similar to India. And lastly, why number six, it's a very it's a very beautiful country in terms of scenery, and and even everything else is much much more economical and even traveling that you find that a large number of tourists come to Malaysia so these seven factors put together especially Putrajaya. I will put together one of the best Muslim cities in the world for a Muslim to live in. Mashallah.

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Live there's no dance clubs. And you know, all this put together one of the best cities in the world, whether a Muslim can live from Islam Alhamdulillah so I just visited Malaysia herself. When we met each other a few months ago, we had no idea this lockdown would happen to him that I've been to Malaysia three or four times. And may I add here that I have found also the Malay people to be very humble, very sweet, very good. And Subhanallah and one of the things that I said when I went to Malaysia is that in most Muslim countries in the world, the the the the armies of Islam came and then Islam spread after that, but Malaysia is one of the few places that Islam spread organically

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and the majority of its inhabitants are Muslim despite the fact that you know, there was no husba you know, from the time of the oma years or the Sahaba. So this is inshallah something that they can use to their advantage. So and of for the listeners as well. Putrajaya is a new city that is around an hour, 40 minutes away from Kuala Lumpur. It's half an hour, half an hour, whatever it is. It's what, on average, some on average.

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And depends on the traffic as well because Malaysia does have some traffic, you know, but Putrajaya is a purpose built city that was meant to be a capital of the world they can run the country from.

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Yes, is the administrative capital. Yeah. And it's a beautiful city marshmallows as a doorstop said that just so many pros over there come the de la. So drug sub I mentioned we met recently, I think was just three months ago. Seems like so long ago. We had a very nice conversation, we spent the day together. And I just made a post with your permission about our conversation. And I mentioned in it that you know the the BJP government offered you

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security if you're going to change your tone, and if you were to praise them, and I just mentioned it as a part of many points, and I had no idea that that post would actually become a political incident and the media would would, you know, jump on it. And it actually became much bigger than what it was just to post about our nice meeting and great time. And one of the things just one point was this issue of the BJP government making you an offer. So it's interesting how that post went viral and how it be created a media Sandstorm and sensation. What are your thoughts about that? Do you have anything to add about the the BJP controversy with you in particular before we get to the

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broader issue,

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as to me was mentioned in the post and and in my shot clarification for about five minutes that

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The Prime Minister of

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India, Narendra Modi, and the home minister of India, they had sent an envoy under the direct instruction to meet me in the last week of September. And they told me that, you know, we would like to give you a safe passage to India, and we will see that all the problem is solved. And as the What do you want. And, as I said, as long as you don't ask me to do anything against Iran, again, it's a sinner, and I don't want your money. And if it benefited the Muslim Ummah, I've got no problem cooperating with you. But I realized that they want me, they wanted me to support them in the issue of the abrogation of Article 370 in Kashmir. They wanted me to support them aboard the nav act, and

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various things. But naturally, I declined. And this wasn't made public. And I spoke to a few people, one of them with you. And when you said, Dan, I mentioned I said, I didn't have intention of making it public. But I said no problem. And when your post came, there was only one newspaper that reported it. But what click the thing is that the Indian authorities forced me to say that deny what should

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I do? So when the pressure increased on me, then I gave a press release, as well as the short video of five minutes clarifying the issue. And thing about the background which went viral, and admittedly counted more than 100, newspapers, media, and media outlets, mainly in India and all over the world, they covered this event, and it went viral. And even the short video has more than a million views Alhamdulillah

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Subhan Allah so I want the viewers to understand how precarious The situation is that it wasn't even meant to cause any issue. I'm just reporting on our conversation with doctors has permission, and the government double down and wanted him to withdraw and say that that never happened. And it must be said here it's so it betrays the reality of this organization and this entity that is ruling the country in a way that is so clear, they know Dr. Sub that you are not a terrorist, they know that you are not an actual threat. And they're willing for you to come back into the country give you all your assets back, give you your citizenship rights back if you praise them and you sing their tune.

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And again, it's not nice to praise somebody in front of their face. But I asked for forgiveness when I tell the audience that each other this is the sign of a true Iman and courage that one year offered the dunya when you're offered a magnificent platter full of goods and you're asked to compromise on your DNA, you say No thank you, I cannot do that for the sake of Allah subhana wa Tada. Then insha Allah, Allah will give you much more than what has been taken away from you. You know, our Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said, whoever gives up what he wants for the sake of Allah, Allah will give him more than what he gave up. So we firmly believe drug savanovic da in

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front of all of our viewers, that Allah Subhana Allah blesses you infinitely more than what you ever had to give up. And I know dogs have that right now you're having some issues as well, politically. So to just to clarify your citizenship wise, you don't have any other citizenship correct? as of yet, that offered me and I can take when I want. Okay.

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Exactly. So this makes it even more difficult that the one citizenship that you have, the government is willing that you come back, you get it renewed, because right now, the passport will not, you know, be renewed as it stands as it is. So the fact that you turn them down in sha Allah, it speaks volumes about your own sincerity and ask Allah to give you and me sincerity and to bless and accept from us and hamdulillah. Also, when I say drugs of that we're having a conversation a few days ago, and you mentioned that after our meeting, you it formed a catalyst or it acted as a catalyst that

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you became more active on Facebook. Can you clarify to the viewership about that small issue as well? Actually, normally, if you know, in the past, I doubt anyone has rarely seen me on a live program on the social media like what we have now. The reason was that I've been receiving many invitations for live talks or shows a conference on the internet. And the reason is that I myself in the year 2016, there were more than 5000 invitations pending only for physical life lectures from outside India, more than 5000 which I could not attend those which I did not attend, and every year it was increasing, because every day we receive a free invitation and I cannot entertain all. So

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that is the reason or the policy. We We are the policy that we I will not have any programs on the internet because if I start that they'll be 10s of 1000s of requests, policy and this I remember maybe in my full life in my full life about what

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The 25 euro dollar, and was the end so

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I I misspoke in maybe four times, or maybe

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only four or five times.

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And this is maybe the sixth time I'm talking about life programmers interview. Yeah, I mean Delica them different. And the reason was that once you've opened the Pandora's box, it is difficult. And that's what exactly happened the moment I gave a green signal to you, maybe about two three weeks back every day I started receiving requests.

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So then

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and then I put a stop I said, I go back to gold policy, because my staff was after me since many years and even now that on my Facebook Mashallah, when there are more than 22 million followers, why don't I do live shows weekly, and because of my busy schedule and other

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commitments, and

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then when I told you that my wife got me and

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now you have to give commitment, and she forced me

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twice a week

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that inshallah I will come on my Facebook Live, or one and a half hour, inshallah twice a week

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on Tuesdays and Saturdays, and after I'm done, inshallah, I will continue once a week on Saturday, maybe for two hours a week inshallah. Mashallah, we thank

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you, I'd like to thank Allah for you for two things. One thing that happened

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and even this, that, you know, may Allah bless you that it was pending since a long time and we will have you you know, you're the catalyst and eventually you will get

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a Giardia for Bodhi inshallah.

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But all of this is from Allah subhana wa Tada. And also

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we have poppy Mashallah, because she's the one who requested it. And also, this is a message to all of the husbands out there that even Dr. Zack and Nick and myself when when our message, say something somewhere,

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we obeyed them. That is the sign of a happy marriage

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in that

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Alhamdulillah so what's so as you know, I mean, we have our viewership also knows this that we've had a good relationship for almost, I think 15 years now in the peace TV, peace conferences I used to attend back in mid 2000s. I think I came three, seven was the first time we met

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the first time Yes, 14 approximately 14 years, 14 years Exactly. And Alhamdulilah Erica recorded the whole Sierra and other programs as well. But what is the status of peace TV now and what is the future plans that peace TV has and also your personal future plans now that we don't you know, you're you're disconnected from India and you're based in Mumbai. So what's your future plans?

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As you will be on

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the piste pctv Mashallah was the largest religious washed satellite channel in the world, not only Swami channel, but satellite channel and according to the survey that we did the estimated viewership of piece TV network, as you are with the peace TV network, have you got satellites in four different languages, English or do Bangla and Chinese English in the year 2016. It was broadcast on 15 different satellites Mashallah. Having potential viewership of about one and a half to 2 billion people. Potential viewership means it is entering the home the house, they may or may not watch. But that will give English approximately about 100 million piste we will do what

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approximately 80 million, basically one level 50 million and Chinese about 20 million all put together with more than 200 million actually with a hamdulillah. Have you know that after the internet are getting more popular, the social media are getting more popular. And everyone asked me the question that you know, isn't social media having social media overtaking

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the satellite, and I told them in 2016 that not yet it will in the near future. As per the statistics of the end of January 2020, approximately 59.8% of the population of the world they use internet and about 49.8% use social media. You know that's more than point 8 billion people use internet and about 3.8 billion people use social media. And number one, the social media in the Facebook, which has active monthly viewers of two and a half billion. It's number one in the world. Number two would be the YouTube which has 2 billion

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monthly active users followed by all by WhatsApp with 1.8 billion. Then you have the Instagram more than 1 billion and then you have the Twitter what 600 million

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then you have the tumbler the pin press time snapshot,

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what has happened that 16 eight I believe that the

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social media Now

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the key thing now I feel that the reach of the social media is someone at par with the satellite. And what happened in India you know that our base was in India actually, and our headquarters in India were in Bombay alone, we had Mashallah more than 500 full time paid employees only in Bombay, then we had more than 100 and our staff outside India in other countries, another 3040 Mashallah, for put together we had more than 600 full time paid employees and our main production studio team in Bombay at 300 full time paid employees

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and the volunteer Mashallah organization with more than 10,000 alone, Mashallah. So now, because of the change in the scenario, you know, that there has been a financial crunch in the world, you know, with him in 2015, and 1617, and COVID-19, as you know, so all this put together the financial structure change. And after shifting to Bombay, what happened in Bombay, because our main focus, my main focus was pitch TV, I have to on average, on my Facebook has to hardly give half an hour a month, that is 6000 a year on social media put together as to spend about one hour a month for 12 hours a year, when I shifted to Malaysia, and I got settled in 2017. And then 18, I started giving

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only for the social media about five hours a day.

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You know, posting is cheap, and satellite became less because the production has reduced. In the last two weeks, I've been giving about maybe 1516 hours a day for the social media.

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Because we were only on basically three platforms before on Facebook, YouTube, and our website. Our website was, we had to close our website because it was on the organization. So for legal purposes, in 2016, we had to close our website. At that time, I'd have gotten it was the fourth largest visited Islamic website in the world, my slump journey, but then we had to close it. Now we decided, Okay, let's, let's restart. But the last two, three weeks, I've been at it and he shall live. I love his day after tomorrow. During a man First we'll be launching the website again. And it is completely different than what was before. It is much more informative. It is much more voluminous.

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That website wasn't that much, but yet it was popular. So inshallah We are looking forward to it. And once it is launched, the main structure would be ready. But every day we'll be uploading things like lecture script, videos, all the activities put together. If you're on Facebook, everything will be on the website. If you're on my videos will be on the website. Pinterest will be on the website. So we are giving more time to the social media. So my focus has shifted more to social media. And just a week or two before we launched Instagram, which is the second most famous in terms of Facebook, in terms of

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social media. The second was not counting the YouTube and the WhatsApp. So we rushed on Instagram, we are having problems because you know that there are already more than 50 fake accounts on Instagram, more than 100 200 fake accounts of mine on the Facebook on all the social media. So when we launched we are having a problem that our name is coming last because it is new and interesting.

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To inshallah we'll catch up soon. And so, we have shifted our focus more on the social media, the production of satellite has, has gone down. And in India, it was mainly my activity I mean, I given my life for the sake of Allah subhanaw taala was more than 50% of hardcore competitive activity. shifting to Malaysia that competitive a little bit has gotten more to the other problems of the Muslim Ummah, which is not directly related to Dawa and I'm an interaction with more scholars than what I was before the Islamic scholars, the Islamic gods. So the whole type of activity has shifted, and Alexa bought all we are doing. I believe that whatever activity you're doing as long as you

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strive Allah, I believe that what we have achieved we cannot achieve our own at all everything. 100% is because of the sake of Allah Spano. tala, I cannot imagine that a person who is to stammer, there are a large audience coming for my talk. It's not possible at all. It's impossible. It's a miracle. It's only because of the name of Allah subhanaw taala for my talk on my Facebook, I wonder that how come 22 million followers. It is unbelievable. It's

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possible. And you know that we 22 million followers if we make it commercialize it, you can earn millions of dollars in a year, millions

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We have not made any of our social media commercial life, either pitch TV because we believe that we want most of up and a bigger reach. Now we are focusing more on the social media and the other aspects of the Muslim Ummah,

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rather than what we used to do in

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our efforts in 100. So Allah subhanaw taala reminds us in the Quran in the Latina woman why we just saw the head the Sage alohomora human would and what this means is that those who do good deeds and those who are righteous, Allah subhana wa tada will write love for them. And our commentators say that one of the signs of sincerity and one of the signs of piety is that love is written for the servants of Allah amongst the hearts of the servants of Allah. So we pray that Allah subhanho wa Taala grants all of us that sincerity, because with that sincerity comes the Baraka, there is no Baraka, there is no blessings from Allah without sincerity. So we make We ask Allah Subhana Allah to

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grant us sincerity meets sincerity in all of our viewers sincerity and in sha Allah, it is a sign the very fact that so many people admire and respect a Muslim, the and the righteous look up to this insha Allah, it is a sign and we ask Allah to maintain all of us in that positive until we die and in the future as well. Insha Allah tada duxtop I need to ask you a very difficult question. But it is troubling to many of our viewers. And that is the situation of Muslims in India. And as you know, drugs are that my grandparents are from India, I have Indian blood, I still have relatives in India. But even if we did it, we are all one oma and to see how the Muslims are being treated, and

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especially to see the current party making Islamophobia one of its core elements. And the most bizarre thing is to then claim that Muslims are behind this COVID crisis. And somehow, you know, Link Islam and Muslims with this COVID crisis, it's very worrying drops up and I want to ask you as somebody the future of Muslims in India and the reality of the BJP using Islam as linking it to the COVID crisis, what is your analysis of this inshallah,

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number one, let me tell you that I generally believe that the whole the Hindus in India, and the non Muslim, the India, the and against Muslims as a whole, I believe, amongst the Hindu, maybe approximately 75 to 80% of the population of India.

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I would say that, before BJP government came to power, according to me,

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maybe 5% of the Hindus would be against Muslims. And about 15% of the Hindus would go out of the way to help the Muslims. And the balanced 80% or neutral level good human being there were no problem.

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But later on because of the political situation, they felt that we can use religion as a trump card to come to power. BJP arrested, they started using that. And they started propagating animosity against the Muslim to come to power. And with that, maybe the percentage of the Hindus against Muslims may have increased to 10%.

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But because of the fear psychosis, the people supporting Muslims has reduced to 5%.

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And the neutral ility 5%. As time is going on, because of the threat, they're giving on the social media, and open lynching of the of the Muslims, and giving a clear cut picture to the Hindus, that if you support Muslims, we will attack you. So they have been attacking those Hindus who are supporting Muslims. Because of that, the people openly supporting Muslim as reduced. And those who are there were neutral. So now I would feel that after they have come to power, the second time, the people against Muslims, maybe approximately 15% 5% in favor, and yet it was

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80% neutral, they are afraid of showing that they're neutral, because of the government. So because when, when the BJP came to power, the second time they came in 2014. And they came with an open agenda that they're going to attack the Muslims and to hide the negative factor that they have in India. They bring up the issue of war with Pakistan, or the Muslim issue, about the Babri Masjid, about the Kashmir issue about the best of luck. What a strip is the law got to do with the economy of the country. Exactly. So the

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issues to show to the non Muslims that you know, these are the problematic areas. And you can solve the problem by religion. Even now, when the court gave a verdict in favor, they're not building the temple why they will, close to the next election. Every time they want to make an issue. And now, I believe that the Muslim should be united which we aren't

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And we should understand the situation. And what is the basic question that what is the response as far as the COVID-19 is concerned, now bear using COVID-19 also, as an issue protect the Muslims, they are seeing the major cause of COVID-19 to enter into India, or the Muslims. And there are many examples they are blaming, and they are seeing that the gathering that happened in Delhi 4000 people have the public domain, you know, it's one of the largest Sunni Muslim gathering that take place throughout the world. Without any publicity without any media, they gather large numbers of different parts of the world. So, according, according to the fact, when they had that gathering,

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they had all the police permission. So that gathering wasn't illegal at all. So it is wrong to blame them, because if they did not take permission, then you can hold them responsible for them. And when they had that gathering in mind, they did not break any law. But what happened when the gathering a few days got over immediately, without any notice, the government announced that there's going to be an lockdown next day. For the people who are gathered from different parts of the country and outside India. They tried to go back home to the city, they could not so many of them came back to the market. And when they came back to the markets, the government said, No, you're breaking the

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Down How can a few 100 people or 1000 people gathered there, which is totally wrong. I mean, they did not do it willingly. It was without any warning. Furthermore, what the news is saying that majority of the cases of the public Jamaat is from COVID-19. The fact is that there are other news available, that majority of the people, there was hardly anyone who was tested positive. So the news, the whole news media of India, the mainstream media, except for one channel NDTV the majority of the mainstream media has been purchased by the government, either it's owned by the BJP government or they are friends.

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So, my thought that you will be shocked to know one of the biggest fake news of COVID-19 India was one of the leading popular channels of India Zee News, they gave a breaking news saying the main person responsible for spreading COVID-19 in India is Dr. Zakir Naik.

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He picked up Malaysian tumbleweeds Amati Malaysian mystery from w Jamaat and he put COVID-19 in them and told them to go to India.

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So, logical person in his wildest dream. So, this is the biggest fake news in India, that the main person responsible for spreading COVID-19 India is Dr. Zakir Naik and by V news, which is one of the leading news channels in India. You see, it's it's it's very disheartening that you know, Muslims are there are many hospitals in India old men lose they said Muslim cannot be treated in hospital. Yes, I saw that. Then there are cases where like in Delhi and some cities in India, that Muslims aren't allowed to sell their stuff in the market. And when there was some excellent vendors who sold the vegetables, these hooligans came and the people who bought the widget able to give it back and

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they hunted these Muslims out. So, there are so many things that open LinkedIn in the open, they fail to realize that Do you know that the company the medical pharmaceutical company, which has been deputed by the Indian government to prepare a vaccine for COVID-19 is owned by a Muslim panela the second company which is doing his best to find treatment is

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the person who gave one of the largest donation to India to fight COVID-19 Muslim.

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So, if you really

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realize that, it is mainly a media hype, it is mainly it is promoted by the government such thing, which is absurd, it is inhuman, it is I mean, it's the Constitution. And, and one thing I mean, I can keep wants me to do that, what they said it is Corona, jihad,

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jihad, these Muslims, they are responsible for spreading the COVID-19 Coronavirus in India and the St. Gallen na Jihad from Allah save us from all the fitna. That being

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what doctors have said about India is actually applying around the world. And here in America, unfortunately, even our own President and members of the administration have also begun linking Islam or somehow bringing in Islam or using their far right agenda and linking it with Islam. So for example, three days ago, the president retweeted a very far right islamophobe saying that, you know, you're telling us to shut the churches down. I wonder, are you

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To do the same thing with the messages or not, are you going to shut the mosques down or not? And of course, in America is 1% Muslim, that's it very small minority of us here is Muslim. And there is no issue and hamdulillah almost all of our messages have voluntarily shut down. So this is a false fear that is being created. The President retweeted this, that there is a double standard between churches and mosques, and there is no double standard. Yesterday, the President announced that because of the COVID crisis, we're gonna ban all immigration. And of course, this is catering to his far right base, where this these xenophobic parties across the country, in India, in Israel, in

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America, in Brazil, you have the rise of these nativist ik we call them parties parties that are mixing a hybrid of fanaticism and racism and their versions of religion, and they're using them to foment their own base to so that they become more popular. And in all of these countries and more Muslims and Islam becomes the target, we become the evil person that they're now creating and fomenting their own political ambitions via being against Muslims. And unfortunately, we're even seeing this across the country. I know that even in the Middle East, there's some issues taking place. In this regard, do you have any comments about that drug sub that the rise of Islamophobia

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and linking it to the COVID crisis, they do agree with you that is happening toward the world more than India, what happening in USA happening in UK, even in the UK, and as far as the government is concerned, you may be aware that all the guns country the maximum foreigner that are there in the country that is

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in all all the system all this country and out of the Indian that are there in the Gulf country, approximately 50% of Muslims 50% non Muslim And for your information, the maximum revenue, the maximum foreign exchange that comes into India is from the Gulf country 50% every month, more than $1 billion is transferred from UAE to India officially more than $1 billion a month is transferred from you from only from Saudi Arabia to India officially unofficially.

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Yeah, only from the Gulf countries in India every year $55 billion comes in

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only from this package. And that is about 50% of the of the foreign revenue of India comes from Gulf country and or Muslim countries put together it is more than 60%. The problem is that, according to me, there has been a negative comments by the non Muslims of India and the Gulf countries in ages. But in this COVID-19 it has hit epidemic levels. And you will find large scale people in all the Gulf countries, especially in UAE, in Saudi in Kuwait, they have started speaking against Muslims and criticizing them, abusing them. What happened? A good thing after a long time, our brothers Mashallah, in the Middle East they woke up. And we have many people from the Gulf country who

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objecting to this Islamophobic attack to the maligning of the Prophet of Islam. Muslims so much thought that Mashallah you had from the royal family in UAE.

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In a cosmic she objected. There were many other people from UAE objected from Kuwait, from Qatar, you know, a very famous scholar Chicka

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chicka. Rani, a very famous lawyer from from from Kuwait said that we should file case against the Indians living in the Gulf country to speak against Islam. And he said that all those who have information about non Muslims, Indian in Gulf countries are attacking Islam, please let me know. When do I get them, he went to the extent of filing a case in Geneva, in the middle of Wow, I get this. But I I would like to give any advice that they should go a step further. There are many of the non Muslim Hindus from UAE who have been sent back to India and from other Gulf countries, I would like to add and request them that not only they should take into account all the non Muslim

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Indian living in the Gulf country attacking Islam, they should even keep a track record of all the non Muslim Indians in India

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and keep that data with them. Because most of these rich non Muslim Indian, they very often traveled to the Gulf countries, many of them they traveled to different Muslim countries of the world. And many Muslim countries of the world or tourist spots, whether Murcia Turkey, the Gulf countries if they have a record with that, and if they know that they're criticizing the religion of Islam, and actually spreading venom and communal disharmony.

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It is by the law of all the countries Muslim countries cannot do that. So, if they have a data and they make it very evident, that if these people who have openly criticize and spread communal disharmony, if they come to our country, we will arrest them, that would be a step further, so that the non Muslims in India, they know that they traveled to some countries, and if the open nikitas has been the not concern actually abused, abused the prophet of Islam openly without any even without any logic. So, if they make it very popular that although I see that we will have a record of these non Muslims who are openly abusing Islam, once they enter any Muslim country, they should

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be arrested. That would be really a thing would would cause a difference in the impact of Islamophobia and attacking Islam. So, hello Allah Subhana Allah tells us in the Quran, Allah Subhanallah DNA their own mindu nila phase two, blowhard one beside him. Allah is commanding Muslims who do not believe in idolatry. We are very critical of idolatry. Allah says don't curse the false gods and their idols don't say vulgarities because in response, they're just going to utter vulgarities. You see, as you know, duck sub debating is allowed. You can have a good conversation. They're allowed to hold beliefs that are contrary to Islam. But bringing in vulgarities bring being

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mean and nasty, simply being rude for the sake of being rude, uttering evil things about Allah, His Messenger just to hurt other people's feelings. This is not even in our religion, we are told even if you don't believe in their gods Don't curse their gods don't say vulgarities about their gods. And SubhanAllah. What you said is absolutely right, that there is no doubt that those who say vulgarities about our prophets of the love, why do you send them? Why should they be coming to the lands where the Profit System is respected? We're facing our demise of agnosticism. The rise of atheism is our final question drug sub. We're facing the rise of agnosticism and atheism amongst

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some segments of the Muslim oma, especially here in America. I'd like to speak a little bit about that before we conclude, because I think it's very important that people hear from the both of us, what do we think we should be doing? What advice can we give to the Muslims to make sure that we protect the man of the next generation and to counter this rise of E religiosity and agnosticism and atheism

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as part of atheism rising in the western country? I disagree with you. It is not only only Western countries throughout the world, it is everywhere in the world, including Gulf countries, where I consider that, you know, the Gulf country, especially Saudi Arabia, it is the heartbeat for him. I was shocked. It was in 2014. They asked me to give a lecture on atheism Does God Exist I was shot in Saudi Arabia in Jerusalem.

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One of the best Islamic University to give a talk on atheism. And then I realized that the people told me that even in the Gulf countries, leave aside Western countries leavers, I do believe that America, India, even there, there are and previously previously, according to me, when, when a person from Saudi Arabia or from the Gulf country, went to America went to Western country, the chances that they would deviate from the deal would be maybe one or 2% That's it.

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But nowadays, the chances are more than 25%. Coming back to your question, I know that they're the right and I've given a talk on this topic. Does God Exist? Where I've proved with with reason, logic and science exists or last minute Allah? What I believe that

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amongst the people who in the past, you know, there is a section of the of the guy who would disagree on answering any question which which I don't agree with this. Okay, this question.

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This is a devil's Question four describes this question cannot be asked, you know, so they disagree on answering question and

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I'm concerned if I find a book, which is against the Quran, and a book in it in favor of Quran I will first buy the book

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to know

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don't know how the enemy is attacking the corner, how can I defend it? So, what we realized that many questions like which our younger generation us, our older generation used to disagree replying, saying that this will take away from the need, which I disagree number one, we should stop saying do not answer questions, which are, which are, you know, a sentence question. I said, No, you can answer any question. A question can be illogical fine. Yeah, but you cannot say that if it's any question that someone say, why don't you have pork or anything? They ask any question. It cannot be a question which cannot be asked. That's a different question that everyone is not specialized in

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the field of answering the TSP. But one thing that we should encourage questions

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Let it be anything under the sun. But everyone is not specialized in the plane. Because while if you are not specialized, you may falter and bring the principles of Islam while applying. So I know many days while replying to the non Muslims, they go overboard, and they go against the principles of the Quran, the Quran, they go into detail, unknowingly, unintentionally. So that's a big problem. Number two,

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there were some dogs who fully like signed, ultimate nice signs on top of the world.

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And these to speak. Yes, we asked it. Many of us today don't speak about science.

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Going to extreme. Yes, you have to respect science. We agree with science, but not everything can you prove scientifically? So I believe that science is a very good tool. There are many diagnoses and should not be used with a disagreement. Science is a very good tool for spreading the deen among atheists, because for the theist, today, science and logic is the ultimate

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or you could say ultimate yardstick. Yeah, so we cannot neglect science. What we should do that many of the things within the Muslim Ummah, which because of preconceived, wrong ideas, we think about science, which is not going against the Quran, it's not going against the Hadith, it's not going in the Sharia. But if you have a preconceived idea that this is against Sharia, and when time say something against it, we defend it, rather, we should look at it. That is what OSHA says. If we go to the extent of using logic, science and reasoning, inshallah I feel it is not difficult at all to convince atheists. As far as I'm concerned. Alhamdulillah I spoken to hundreds and 1000s of

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atheists, Mashallah, and if we stick to our rules, that Quran is ultimate, the Sharia the ultimate hamdulillah use reason and logic, and how can we convince them? So in my lecture, Does God Exist in one section of us Quran in science to prove like Allah Spano, tala, in that section, I use logic. And third section, what will happen if Allah is not there, then God is not there. So using all these logic, I feel if an unbiased non Muslim, yo this lecture or the convincing reply, I feel if he's open

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minded and unbiased, he has to come to the truth of Islam.

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So, adding to this as well, I just want all of these points are great. I wanted to add some points as well that I think one of the things that doctors have said is very true. And that is that when our young come to us, when our youth come to us with deep questions, a lot of times we just shut them off. A lot of times we don't allow them to even verbalize those questions, that is a mistake, especially in the current climate that we live in. Now, if you are not qualified to answer go to somebody who is qualified to answer but if your son or daughter comes to you, and asks a very difficult question, maybe if you were a child and asked it, maybe your mother father would have

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smacked you or said, Be quiet, how dare you? Okay, we cannot do that anymore. Because if you don't answer somebody else's gonna answer an incorrect way. So take your son or daughter to somebody who can answer also adding to this as well is that agnosticism and atheism is also a spiritual disease. It's not just as doctors have said, very valid point, logic and reason also, there's a spiritual element. And therefore, as you respond to these questions, perhaps, as well make sure you emphasize the spirituality that is needed to be a good holistic human being because science and reason only take you so far, the human soul also needs some Avada some dialogue with Allah subhana wa tada and

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science can never give you that purpose in life, science and rationality can never give you the spiritual feeling of happiness that comes when you worship Allah Subhana. Without it the fitrah that Allah created us upon it needs as well, some spirituality. So, in tackling these issues of agnosticism, and atheism, we have multi pronged approaches. We take science and rationality, we take logic and reason, we obviously take the Quran and Sunnah and we also bring in the element of spirituality, and insha, Allah, those that are sincere and that's the big if if they are sincere, then inshallah they will definitely come back to the faith, because you cannot be an atheist if

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you're fully logical and rational. And also if you understand the needs of the soul, the the atheist is somebody who is insisting on that which you cannot insist on reason and logic. And the atheist as well is insisting on covering the needs of his or her own soul. their soul is crying for some meaning for some life for some purpose for some very bad and the atheist is insisting No, I'm not going to answer to what is needed. And that is why the term Cofer actually means to cover up because the atheist has in fact forced the covering on his or her own soul. And that's why it's important that we deal with this in a holistic manner.

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Darkside Mashallah we spent an entire hour together, exact color hair for your time any parting comments about Ramadan about any issues? What is the parting advice that you want to leave us with?

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By the way, it would be that because of the different situation that we are in today, most of the part of the world is in lockdown. My advice would be lead this isolation, get you closer to Allah subhanaw taala.

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The other way that the common term used very often in the media and by the Muslim also is social distancing.

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I would consider that social distancing in Islamic Haram, the right word and the more appropriate word is physical distancing. Or even many of the

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requirement of social distancing, social distancing is a major sin.

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Yes, the thing is physical distancing, if there's a requirement should be done, so not to use these words which are an Islamic and let this isolation get you closer to Allah subhanaw taala. It will be in this time it's difficult to ethica because one of the reasons One of the requirements

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and most of them was closed down. So let us when we isolated the home, let us come closer to Allah subhanaw taala let us

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Let's contemplate and lead

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and lead this month starting from from tomorrow in urine Malaysia There is hardly about

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left in Malaysia

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and in your part of the world, they'll be more than a day's left.

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And we're looking forward to this Ramadan and let this Ramadan get us closer to Allah.

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inshallah and again to

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reiterate that point that this is potentially the best strumble bond we will ever have in our lives because we will be minimizing

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our issues of going to different houses for thought traveling in traffic what not we are going to be in our houses quarantined up we have extra time for a bother extra time for Quran extra time predicted extra time for contemplation. It is as if the whole month of animal bond is a semi arid teacup, not a fully it covers

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the whole month of August we are forcing ourselves to do some extra so it is potentially the best Ramadan we will ever have. Especially remind myself and all of you that especially if we are under lockdown. Let's try to pray. The preamble later the Torah we heard the tahajjud prayer when it's supposed to be the ideal time which is the last third of the night we're not traveling to work most of us so maybe this Ramadan we can actually make sure that we pray the pm when it is the most appropriate time to be able to it's allowed to pray earlier but the ideal time and the most Baraka time is the last third of the night perhaps this Ramadan all of us can try to do that to come closer

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to Allah subhana wa tada Darkside This is the end of our program. I hope it's not the last time we're able to do this there was a minor technical glitches but inshallah we'll figure out how to make it even better. And I hope that in short, it was a benefit Jazakallah head for spending an entire hour of your time I ask Allah subhana wa tada to protect you and your family and your loved ones and to protect all of us during this time. ask Allah to increase the both of us and all of those calling to Islam and all of us worshipping alone or Islam, in our Baraka in our hedaya in our sadad I asked Allah to keep our hearts united in this time where enemies are trying to disunite

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enemies are trying to bring chaos and whatnot ask Allah to give all of our hearts united as one oma ask Allah Subhana Allah that we live as good Muslims that we die as righteous means that we are resurrected in the company of the Gambia and the saw their hand and the Shahada was a great companionship they are just a doctor sobbing shoulder until next time,

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